Is Dinesh D'Souza Really that Illogical?

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Is D'Souza Really that Illogical?
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A week ago, there was talk on D'Souza' new Clinton movie in the Clinton thread. Here is a part where I entered the conversation.

I saw that Obama 2016 movie when it came out, which was also when I was a "blind conservative." I at the time loved it but since then, I don't remember much of anything. I tried reading some reviews of it to see if it really was a good documentary but they were all in angry prose I couldn't take seriously. Can someone here talk about the points made in that film since I trust you much more than random folks? I actually been meaning to ask this for a while but never had a good opportunity before.
Just listen to Dinesh D'Souza say the word "WHY?" rhetorically and you'll quickly find that his charisma wears thin against circular logic, false ultimatums, tautologies, and misrepresentations.

Any documentary by Dinesh is worth less to me than an empty DVD case.
Thanks but I asked about the actual points he made and why they weren't valid.

I'm not trying to defend him, as the bits I remember I don't think are good. I ranked the film a five on Imdb.
Couldn't say, I didn't watch it.
Since this is a movie forum and the documentaries are movies, I think we should discuss them here. All the reviews I see online I can't take seriously which is why I would like a conversation here. I saw the Obama movie long ago when I was a different person so I can't give an opinion on it, as I barely remember it. (I only remember the guy that said "God damn America" a socialist African D'Souza interviewed and elementary school students singing about Obama.)

Also, go into as much detail as you can about the actual points D'Souza makes. I really want to see why these documentaries suck so much but I haven't found a good review of them at all as of now.

I probably will leave my IMDB rating of the Obama movie a 5/10 for now though.

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So theres a Clinton movie now? Safe to say if he found more source material than Trump, well he obviously is a filmmaker for the GOPs cause. To support Romney over Obama is one thing, but to support Trump over Hillary, hell, they could have made a billy goat the Republican nominee and he still would have made his Clinton film.



So theres a Clinton movie now? Safe to say if he found more source material than Trump, well he obviously is a filmmaker for the GOPs cause. To support Romney over Obama is one thing, but to support Trump over Hillary, hell, they could have made a billy goat the Republican nominee and he still would have made his Clinton film.
Thanks but the point of this thread is to go into as much detail as possible (specific examples) why D'Souza is not a good commentator.



the name 'dinesh d'souza' seems to originate from my country ( india )----from the state of goa , which was ruled by the portuguese for a long time and hence many indians there have portuguese surnames like d'souza with indian names like dinesh.



Thanks but the point of this thread is to go into as much detail as possible (specific examples) why D'Souza is not a good commentator.
I don't like him because I've seen him pull the same arguments over and over again in religious debates even after they've been totally refuted. His arguments are subversive and his tone is condescending.

Hillary's America pinning slavery on Democrats as a persistent ideological catch is a profoundly dishonest representation I could completely believe Dinesh would perpetrate given his history.
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After his Obama movie was released, he's been blaming the Obama administration for his ending up in jail over something like illegal donations or something (I don't feel like looking it up), which happened to be something he admitted to doing by the way. But of course it's a better story to imagine there was some conspiracy. I've heard him speak, but I have no interest in watching any movie of his. He's a whack job as far as I'm concerned. Sorry I can't be of any help there.
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There so many more substantial critiques he could be making.



he's been blaming the Obama administration for his ending up in jail over something like illegal donations or something (I don't feel like looking it up),
He donated $20,000 of someone else's money in someone else's name. It was premeditated theft.



I meant to bump this sooner but I forgot about the thread.

So far only Kaplan gave a specific example why D'Souza is bad. Thanks Kaplan I did not know that. But still noone evaluated the points he makes in his docs. Again I am not trying to defend him, I just want to see why the points he makes are not valid because everywhere I search for criticisms of him, I can't find specifics and the people just trash talk him.



I don't like him because I've seen him pull the same arguments over and over again in religious debates even after they've been totally refuted. His arguments are subversive and his tone is condescending.

Hillary's America pinning slavery on Democrats as a persistent ideological catch is a profoundly dishonest representation I could completely believe Dinesh would perpetrate given his history.
Oh sorry I didn't see you said that.

Yeah many republicans like to spread that lie and I knew DSouza was guilty too. However, I couldn't really find much other criticism that wasn't angry in its prose.



The crux of Hillary's America is to poison the well against democrats by referencing America's history with slavery when arguing in favor of a state's rights to decide was considered a liberal position.

It was a trade for one form of civil liberty over another, and now exists today as what we call "the regressive left". It's by no means indicative of the mindset of all democrats, let alone liberals, let alone SANE PEOPLE, and yet, counter-intuitively, he broadly attributes slavery to the political movement most concerned with freedom, social progress, and civil rights.

It's true many self-described liberals feed straight into this perversion with their inconsistent application of social justice (political correctness overwhelming freedom of speech, for example), but painting the entire political left with the same brush AT THE VERY LEAST goes to show Dinesh doesn't doesn't do his research, doesn't understand the opposing position, and/or willfully ignores facts.

It's easy to imagine that he just saw "democrats" and "slavery" in the same sentence somewhere and, with a complete lack of self-awareness, confirmation bias took over.