Name the first legitimately bad film on IMDB's Top 250

Final paper.

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Seeing as it's never been released, either in theaters or DVD, or broadcast on television as such, I'd be inclined to disagree. Even if you watch it all together, you're going to have to switch out for another DVD. It doesn't just go right in. You'd have to edit it together on some editing software to get that.

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"Loves them? They need them, like they need the air."

It's one movie.

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"Don't be so gloomy. After all it's not that awful. Like the fella says, in Italy for 30 years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder, and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and the Renaissance. In Switzerland they had brotherly love - they had 500 years of democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."

It's one movie, but it's never one.

He even wanted to make it a little longer if I remember correctly.

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We are both the source of the problem and the solution, yet we do not see ourselves in this light...

That's what she said.

And all directors do.

I don't have it online but I can email it. It's not much of an analysis as it was research, but still has a bunch of nifty facts...actually re-reading it now I'm so glad I've gotten better at writing since then

Thanks! I'll definitely send some comments later.

Yep, no problem. BACK ON TOPIC GRAN TORINO

Totally average film. I wouldn't call it bad, except to ask the question WHY ASIAN?

Why not?

Nevermind... I just remembered that the guy was a Korea veteran.

Considering I live near enough, I can vouch for the fact that they used to live there...but that's about it for the Korea stuff. I just cannot believe a movie with such average dialogue was ever made let alone nominated up the ass

The ending was lolsad. That's why. The Asian kid got the car and drove off sadly, but there was a little smile on his face.

I had no idea about this man. I always imagined him as very much the opposite. Like write a script, know exactly what's going to happen and do it right then and there exactly as he'd imagined. I had no idea he was that kind of "have your cake and eat it too" type director.

I guess he taught himself how to direct this type of movie via doing it
So was Remember Me but that was hilarious but seriously, that was the best part, even though the whole story felt old hat with ongoing predictability

Yeah. I mean, maybe the ending made it worth it then. They also liked to make the Asian kid say vulgar things. I think people liked to see that.

Everyone likes to see confidence portrayed as a mind curtain for their own self-esteem

hmm maybe I'm cynical tonight

Also, the girl got raped. But she was Asian.

You ever notice how not many people caught on to that part?

Well, it's the same with whether or not Rick and Ilsa slept together in Casablanca.

for real real not for play play?