The BIGFOOT Thread

Ranking the Bigfoot videos... (this is my personal ranking).

1. Number one of course if the 1967 Patterson / Gimlin film from Bluff Creek, CA for obvious reasons:



2. The Freeman footage 1994 Oregon: What helps convince me this isn't a hoax is Paul Freeman announcing "There's two of them", but I never see a second one (although some claim to). Unfortunately, the video I posted cuts off before he announces this. If you're pulling a hoax and announcing there's two of them, then you're going to make sure to capture two on film, and if you were hoaxing with only one guy in a suit, you wouldn't then think to say there's two of them. This just doesn't look like a costume to me: too big and too fat (most gorilla suits don't have barrel chests and protruding, fat stomachs).



3. I think I saw a Skunk Ape 2013 Mississippi: Could be someone in a costume, but the sounds of the tree being ripped apart suggest something stronger than a human searching for food. At first glance I'd say this was a gorilla, but there aren't too many of them known to inhabit Mississippi swamps (in fact, none are known to inhabit that area).



4. Harley Hoffman Bigfoot 2001 British Columbia, Canada: I'd rank this footage higher for its clarity, but I'm skeptical due to the shortness of the video and the cuts in the editing (why isn't it longer? We don't even get to see the creature emerge beyond a tree in the best shot).



5. Russian Bigfoot 2015 Russia: What makes me less skeptical that this is a hoax is the "wingspan" of this creature when it jumps with its back to the camera. If that is a costume, then it's very natural looking and has some kind of arm extensions that also move naturally - but I don't think any person could move so fluidly in a costume containing all kinds of extensions or rigging. So, if it's not a costume, then what is it?



Lots of others rank for honorable mentions (but are either too short, too fuzzy, too fake-looking, or too dark to rank higher). These are my top 5!

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Well the dude in the video looks more like Bigfoot than anything in those videos that Captain posted

Not only that, but he's got the Bigfoot "samurai chatter" (see "the Sierra Sounds") down!

(Now if he can only do a rendition where audio scientists say that the vocalizations contain infrasound and are outside the range of human capability!)

I should read this

this would be funny if it wasn't so tragic

https://www.kalb.com/2024/12/30/2-me...t-family-says/

That is sad. The greatest danger of the outdoors is not any animal, but getting lost or injured, and being unable to survive for long.

(If venturing into the wilderness, always let someone know where and when you're going. Take a fully-charged cell phone & extra battery, and check in with a contact at regular intervals if possible. If going on an expedition, notify the local authorities - such as a ranger station - of your plans. Bring water, food and a way to start a fire along with various tools & survival gear. Plan ahead for local weather & weather extremes.)

On a lighter note, anyone remember the story from several years back about a 3-year-old boy who got lost and was possibly saved by Bigfoot?
https://www.reddit.com/r/bigfoot/com..._carolina_boy/

The boy claimed he was befriended & protected by a bear! While a wild bear with an overactive maternal instinct is highly improbable, other theories emerged based on the circumstances. The boy could not have survived without help (most likely by someone or something with higher intelligence than a bear). There are a lot of things bears can't do and wouldn't think of. The boy was placed back near where he disappeared (as if to intentionally be found). Could be he was simply kidnapped (but then where did the "bear" friend story come from, while a 3-year-old could easily mistake a large, hairy hominid for a bear).

Really good thread! So much info here

Good advice and you're correct that getting lost or injured is much more likely than getting hurt by an animal. Though some areas of course do have dangerous animals. In places like Alaska grizzly bears are a threat and so are moose which I hear can be very aggressive. Where I live, rural western Washington the animal to look out for when in the back country and especially in mountainous areas is the mountain lion which we call a cougar.

A new, very interesting, short video from "Cabin In The Woods" analyzing the Patterson / Gimlin film with new evidence why it's real...

SIGH!...I watched it.


At first I was watching this supposed "investigator" yet the whole thing oozes like a late night infomercial. I was handling it ok, my disbelief untested, until the commercial LOL! and I inwardly was hysterically laughing at the therapy being offered for sasquatch sightings lol!! And the guy thats doing the video is a "victim" too lol!
No matter how many ways they try and practically word hypnotize you into accepting these many enhanced and stilled images as proof, upon scrutiny its obviously a man in a suit! Im sorry, but it completely still looks like a man in a homemade suit! In fact moreso now with the enhancements. The narrator was stating it as completely factual was uh, not up to task


Imo.


Which is fact.

I appreciate your review.

Yeah, I was a bit taken aback by the therapy commercial too - mentioning the therapy wasn't so bad, but turning it into an ad right in the middle of the video was schlocky. This wasn't the guy's best video (just a new & different one).

I remember years ago, viewing the P/G film skeptically, and what made me think it was a hoax was the bottom of the creature's feet - they looked just like the bottoms of certain costume feet - like flat, cut out soles for slippers. Then I watched films of real gorillas and the bottoms of their feet had the same exact "fake" look to them - they look like plastic, rubber or leather pads.

How do you account for the obvious musculature evident on the figure in the P/G film that couldn't be achieved with any costume since a costume would cover up any visual muscle flexion or moving tendons?

Ive seen old people with bad backs walking like that. This is a body suit in seperate parts, pads and ....oh did you notice this Bigfoot has boobs that start at the waist?! Yas! Bigfoots most famous video does a reverse of The Crying Game. I hereby name thee, Bigmamafoot!

Most people feel the boobs add to the authenticity of a real creature.

Let's face it, if you were going to try to pull off a hoax using a gorilla suit on a shoe-string budget, why would you come up with adding boobs? And the boobs would have had to be added as they aren't standard issue when it comes to gorilla costumes. So why would they spend extra money adding boobs? And who even came up with the idea that sasquatches had boobs? Among the great apes (excepting humans) female chests don't look a whole lot different from the males', so why add boobs to a gorilla costume? Why try to make it look female in the first place? Why go to all the extra trouble and expense if the goal was just to film a hoax that had no redeemable financial value (or the promise of fame since admitted Bigfoot encounters usually were like shooting oneself in the foot on a social or career level)?

As far as muscles added to the costume? This was 1967 and these weren't guys who were movie producers loaded with cash who could hire top costumers or make-up artists (that could produce a mask or make up with no delineation for eye-holes as exposed in the video enhancements). In various other videos, every professional costumer & make-up artist interviewed stated that what's seen on the P/G film could not be produced with a simple gorilla suit in 1967.

None of this adds up, except for the explanation that P/G happened to come upon a female sasquatch that had boobs because the creatures themselves are much closer in relation to humans than to other apes.

One thing I urge people to do: watch the P/G film (stabilized version - like the one I posted several posts back - especially the 2nd part where it's played again in slow motion) and concentrate on the upper thigh of the leg closest to the camera. You can see the impact of the figure's steps rippling up the thigh muscles.

Also, the calf muscle gets bigger & smaller (flexes) throughout the step just as you'd see in a bare calf muscle that changes shape as the weight comes down on it then releases.

This looks the same as it would on a naked human leg as it's walking - BUT you'd never see that rippling effect on the muscles if the person was wearing pants just as you wouldn't see anything like that if a person was wearing a gorilla costume.

Also, focus on the head turn. This just looks too natural to me. Someone wearing a mask or full head piece would not turn their head so naturally, and the way it turns back to looking forward just doesn't seem to move the way a mask would. Not sure how to describe what I'm observing, but the whole head turn looks like one solid & connected body as opposed to a mask with an accompanying costume.

Just thought this was an interesting new video regarding footage that's been around for a while.

Personally, I always wrote the "Independence Day" footage off as a hoax (which is why I don't include it in my top, most convincing, Bigfoot videos) for a few reasons:
1. It's too perfect: the shot, the detail, the lighting, etc. In other words, it looks staged.
2. The lack of info around it - unlike the Patterson film, no one knows who filmed it, or where, or when exactly. If this was an authentic capture, you'd think someone would be claiming credit.
3. It looks like a costume and the actions look like someone acting. I do give credit for creativity - utilizing a baby (which I always thought was a puppet being manipulated by the "mother" in the costume).

However, ThinkerThunker makes some good points...

Another interesting video from this guy...
(But points off for randomly including the video of Oliver the chimp without comment)