Originally posted by TWTCommish
Why only those two? What about C) They say it's good because it IS good. You seem to be operating under the assumption that we've all agreed that the series is low in quality. I won't agree to any such statement.
I AM operating under the assumption that the series is low in quality, because it IS, in my humble opinion. I certainly don't ask you or anyone else to agree.
Before we go any farther, we need to define what "over-the-top" is supposed to mean in this context. What, exactly, has been over-the-top about the advertising campaign? I would argue that it's been a perfectly reasonable campaign...I enjoy watching the commercials, to be perfectly honest with you.
Okay. I see Harry Freakin' Potter every time I try to send an ICQ message. THAT is "over-the-top". Again, just an opinion. If you like the commercials, more power to you.
Originally posted by bigvalbowski
[It seems the two who are arguing against Potter have not read the books and have not seen the film.
I HAVE read the books. I HAVE NOT seen the movie (the books turned me way, wayyyy off).
Saturation? If you don't like it then turn it off.
Turn what off? ICQ? My web browser? My nephew's new pair of socks? The new placemats my brother in law bought for said nephew? The front-page section of the A & E in today's newspaper?
My point being: thanks to media "penetration", our lives can be sufficiently infused with any product or service
ad nasaeum, regardless of whether or not we watch 8 hours of TV or listen to 6 hours of radio per day. Heck. I bet if I sat alone in my room with the door closed and locked, the lights off, the shades drawn, and the digital clock unplugged, Harry Freakin' Potter would find some way to advertise his fine new line of tote bags and toilet seat covers to me.
This is very frustrating for me. Rather than convincing me into believing "Harry Potter GOOD...." it has had rather the opposite effect.
If there was a Harry Potter preview channel just don't put that channel on. Companies have spent a lot of money to associate their products with Harry Potter; they should be allowed reap the benefits.
Euchk. I'm not even going to address this, because it runs so contrary to my beliefs about the economics of advertising techniques. This is not a bad thing: we just happen to disagree on what corporations should and shouldn't be allowed to do.
Harry Potter is a literal phenomenon. Arguing against its artistic merits is redundant similar to arguing against Titanic's cinematic success.
How is it a redundant argument? I don't like the quality of the HP books. Are you saying this opinion is a given? If not, then what? Neither am I following your line about Titanic's cinematic success. Are you trying to imply that the filmmaking for Titanic itself was bad? I hardly think this argument could be considered a good comparison to Harry Potter. HP is a movie that very closely follows a book: Titanic is a fictionalized film about a real-world event. I'm not seeing your connection, or your point.
Some people just can't help knocking success. It's infuriating.
So your argument is essentially "you're just jealous"? Sorry, I don't recognize an appeal to indignation as a valid logical argument. Posit something more concrete and we'll see.
I think it was T who said something to the effect of, "You can't deny that any movie that makes this much money is doing SOMETHING right within it's own genre" (sorry if I paraphrased badly).
By the same logic, McDonalds is doing something right in their own 'genre' (market share) because McDonalds is a fabulously wealthy company. But is the food there
good? Not in my opinion-- but yes, to a great many people, it is good food that they are willing to eat quite often (hence, the wealth of McDonalds corp.) Is it
good for you? Again, not in my opinion. In fact, quite the opposite. Do people still gobble it up? Oh yes.
So, although I may be stretching the metaphore, I'd love to compare the HP books to McDonalds food-- or, better yet, to those little Hostess cakes you can get at any convenience store. Taste = great! Nutritional value = nil.