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Omnizoa 06-23-16 12:17 PM

The MoFo Top 100 Action Movie Countdown
 
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*affects trailer voice*
Welcome, Adrenaline Junkies, one and all!

There's a distinct lack of ACTION in the Lists section. It must be remedied! I task each of you with a mission, if you choose to accept it, to bring forth the greatest collection of carnage ever put to film!

There is only one qualification: YOU WATCH IT FOR THE ACTION. It doesn't matter what else is in the movie so long as it's thrives on bloodpumping violence, audacious stunts, and one-liners so cool they BURN (but seriously, no one has to talk to make a fun action movie, just use your best judgment).

"So bring unto me your wild west shootouts! Your modern car chases!
Your kung-fu fight movies! Spaceships blowing up bases!
There isn't enough destruction and damage to archive
without a fist... and a gun... and a list of twenty-five."


((And in case I have to spell it out: anything, superheroes, samurai, robots, aliens, I don't care.
It can even be animated, just make sure action sequences are prevalent throughout the movie.))


If you're in on this I want you to send me a private message containing your list of up to 25 of your favorite action movies (don't spoil your choices in the thread!), make sure to title it with "Action Countdown". These are ordered lists, so make sure to number them top to bottom. The countdown is ranked by total points across all lists. Your #1 movie is worth 25 points, #2 is worth 24, #3 is 23, and so on...

You MAY send in incomplete lists, however they will be weighted against the number you listed, so if you send in a list of 11 movies, your #1 movie is worth 11 points. If you wish to revise a list you've already submitted, you're welcome to send in a new list (this rule may change as circumstances dictate).

Ties will be resolved by number of votes, then by maximum point allotment, then by release date (in favor of older movies).

I'm going to impose the newbie rule too: I will only accept lists from members who've been here at least a month (subject to discretion).


Lists Received (chronologically):
Tugg (25), The Rodent (25), urkillinmesmalls (25), CiCi (25), Holden Pike (25), BraedenG33 (20), CosmicRunaway (25), Guaporense (25), jiraffejustin (25), Omnizoa (25), NedStark09 (25), Miss Vicky (25), Camo (25), Horroist (25), Larry (25), TylerDurden99 (25), TheUsualSuspect (25), Upton (25), Gideon58 (25), teeter_g (25), NextScorsese (10), False Writer (25), Topsy (24), gandalf26 (25), The Sci-Fi Slob (25), Ultraviolence (25), Steve Freeling (25), RealHero (25), 77topaz (25), Clazor (25), The Gunslinger45 (25), Raven73 (25), Vokzul (25), Optimus (25), mark f (25), edarsenal (25), linespalsy (25), Sexy Celebrity (25), Fabulous (25), Yoda (25), Friendly Mushroom! (25), Sedai (25), Captain Spaulding (25), TONGO (25), Daniel M (25), SkyDog (18), 7thson (25), gbgoodies (25), Iroquois (25), Hitchcockian97 (10), Cobpyth (25), Captain Steel (1), Sunomis (25), dadgumblah (25), MovieMeditation (25), honeykid (25), and rauldc14 (25).


186 of you were contacted, 57 of you answered the call.

489 movies were considered, 473 of them were nominated.

17367 points were distributed, 12065 of them are on this countdown.

You bastards can't agree on anything can you? nah I'm kidding What this was was a struggle for each of you to personally reconcile "good movies" with "action movies", and rationally this involved scrutiny of what it means to be "good" and what it means to be "action".

I think it's apparent that genres like "action" are a matter of gradation, movies can be more or less "drama" or "comedy" oriented and the same holds true of action. The question is how to rank generally excellent movies with relatively unremarkable action with movies that have excellent action sequences, but are otherwise kinda crappy, and with movies that don't have all that much action in them except for that one scene you can't forget.

Despite my misgivings about a couple nominations (or more accurately, lack there of...), and there are in fact several that appear on this countdown that I love, but personally disqualified, I have vetoed no movies for this countdown. And so it is that I present what can only be best described as an approximate democratized conception of what the standard of excellence is when it comes to ACTION MOVIES, as chosen by the contemporary Movie Forums community.

1. Die Hard (1988) 663 points
2. Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991) 604 points
3. Aliens (1986) 510 points
4. Mad Max: Fury Road (2015) 480 points
5. Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981) 474 points
6. The Matrix (1999) 355 points
7. Predator (1987) 312 points
8. Kill Bill Vol. 1 (2003) 267 points
9. The Dark Knight (2008) 264 points
10. The Terminator (1984) 212 points
Honorable Mentions: 13 Assassins (2010), Apocalypto (2006), From Dusk Till Dawn (1996), Bullitt (1968), The Boondock Saints (1999), Ghost in the Shell (1995)
11. First Blood (1982) 194 points
12. Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior (1981) 189 points
13. Seven Samurai (1954) 188 points
14. Gladiator (2000) 185 points
15. Star Wars V: The Empire Strikes Back (1980) 183 points
16. Lethal Weapon (1987) 173 points
17. Star Wars IV: A New Hope (1977) 165 points
18. Con Air (1997) 155 points
19. RoboCop (1987) 153 points
20. Leon: The Professional (1994) 152 points
Honorable Mentions: Scarface (1983), Captain America: Winter Soldier (2014), Hard Target (1993), Highlander (1986), Oldboy (2003), Road House (1989)
21. Hard Boiled (1992) 150 points
22. Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom (1984) 148 points
23. The Killer (1989) 144 points
24. Enter The Dragon (1973) 142 points
25. Total Recall (1990) 136 points
26. Commando (1985) 133 points
27. Point Break (1991) 131 points
28. The Avengers (2012) 123 points
29. True Lies (1994) 116 points
30. Speed (1994) 116 points
Honorable Mentions: Death Race 2000 (1975), Pacific Rim (2013), The Last of the Mohicans (1992), The Matrix: Reloaded (2003), The Departed (2006), The Long Kiss Goodnight (1996)
31. The Crow (1994) 113 points
32. The Rock (1996) 112 points
33. The Raid: Redemption (2011) 110 points
34. Heat (1995) 110 points
35. Iron Man (2008) 109 points
36. Inception (2010) 107 points
37. The Lord of the Rings: Return of the King (2003) 103 points
38. The Raid 2: Berandal (2014) 103 points
39. Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (1989) 100 points
40. Face/Off (1997) 96 points
Honorable Mentions: Collateral (2004), Inglourious Basterds (2009), Star Wars: The Force Awakens (2015), From Russia With Love (1963), Ip Man (2008), The 36th Chamber of Shaolin (1978)
41. Dredd (2012) 95 points
42. Hot Fuzz (2007) 91 points
43. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2002) 91 points
44. The Wild Bunch (1969) 91 points
45. The Warriors (1979) 89 points
46. 300 (2006) 87 points
47. Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol (2011) 87 points
48. John Wick (2014) 86 points
49. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (2000) 85 points
50. Saving Private Ryan (1998) 85 points
Honorable Mentions: Tokyo Drifter (1966), Snatch (2000), Star Wars VI: Return of the Jedi (1983), A Better Tomorrow (1986), Fast Five (2011), Minority Report (2002)
51. The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001) 85 points
52. Hero (2002) 84 points
53. Casino Royale (2006) 80 points
54. Big Trouble in Little China (1986) 80 points
55. The Bourne Supremacy (2004) 80 points
56. Battle Royale (2000) 76 points
57. Edge of Tomorrow (2014) 76 points
58. Braveheart (1995) 75 points
59. Stark Trek II: The Wrath of Khan (1982) 70 points
60. Kill Bill Vol. 2 (2004) 68 points
Honorable Mentions: Sicario (2015), The Italian Job (1969), Twister (1996), Coffy (1973), Pulp Fiction (1994), The Good, the Bad, the Weird (2008)
61. The Bourne Identity (2002) 67 points
62. The Fugitive (1993) 67 points
63. Yojimbo (1961) 67 points
64. The Grandmaster (2013) 67 points
65. Escape From New York (1981) 66 points
66. The Incredibles (2004) 64 points
67. The Dark Knight Rises (2012) 61 points
68. Kingsman: The Secret Service (2014) 60 points
69. Dirty Harry (1971) 60 points
70. Desperado (1995) 59 points
Honorable Mentions: Beverly Hills Cop (1984), Cliffhanger (1993), Ong Bak (2003), Police Story (1985), Spider-man (2002), The Expendables 3 (2014)
71. V for Vendetta (2005) 59 points
72. Independence Day (1996) 58 points
73. Goldfinger (1964) 58 points
74. Die Hard With A Vengeance (1995) 57 points
75. Starship Troopers (1997) 57 points
76. Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl (2003) 53 points
77. The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly (1966) 53 points
78. Django Unchained (2012) 53 points
79. Jurassic Park (1993) 52 points
80. Demolition Man (1993) 52 points
Honorable Mentions: Alien (1979), End of Watch (2012), GoldenEye (1995), House of Flying Daggers (2004), La Femme Nikita (1990), The Thing (1982)
81. Guardians of the Galaxy (2014) 51 points
82. Spider-man 2 (2004) 51 points
83. Lethal Weapon 2 (1989) 51 points
84. King Kong (2005) 51 points
85. Batman Begins (2005) 50 points
86. Under Siege (1992) 50 points
87. Princess Mononoke (1997) 49 points
88. Deadpool (2016) 48 points
89. North by Northwest (1959) 46 points
90. The Fifth Element (1997) 46 points
Honorable Mentions: Blade Runner (1982), Crank (2006), Die Hard 2: Die Harder (1990), Drive (2011), The Legend of Drunken Master (1994), Mission: Impossible III (2006)
96. Akira (1988) 44 points
97. Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children (2005) 44 points
98. Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind (1984) 43 points
99. Mad Max (1979) 43 points
100. Smokey and the Bandit (1977) 43 points
Honorable Mentions:
Once Upon A Time in China (1991), Man on Fire (2004), A Better Tomorrow 2 (1987), Ant-Man (2015), Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World (2003), Pitch Black (2000)

The Rodent 06-23-16 12:23 PM

Re: The MoFo Top 100 Action Movie Countdown
 
So I guess it's a yes on Star Wars then :D

Omnizoa 06-23-16 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by The Rodent (Post 1536078)
So I guess it's a yes on Star Wars then :D
**** yeah.

Mr Minio 06-23-16 12:28 PM

Re: The MoFo Top 100 Action Movie Countdown
 
John Woo is the master of heroic bloodshed genre. I guess his films will be high.

CosmicRunaway 06-23-16 12:31 PM

Re: The MoFo Top 100 Action Movie Countdown
 
On the plus side, without thinking too hard I already have a lot of movies I want on my list. The downside is I have no idea how I'm going to rank them haha.

MovieMeditation 06-23-16 12:32 PM

Bad Boys II, A Good Day to Die Hard, Armegeddon and the entire Transformers franchise in the top 10! Yaaaay :highfive:

CosmicRunaway 06-23-16 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by MovieMeditation (Post 1536087)
Bad Boys II, A Good Day to Die Hard, Armegeddon and the entire Transformers franchise in the top 10! Yaaaay :highfive:
Don't forget Battlefield Earth!

MovieMeditation 06-23-16 12:38 PM

Re: The MoFo Top 100 Action Movie Countdown
 
On another note... June 29th????

I don't think we have ever done one of these HUGE Top 100 forum-wide countdowns in such short notice? I'd rather wait to be honest... The thing that makes these lists great are the period leading up to it. Watching recommendations and such. Am I the only one thinking this?

Omnizoa 06-23-16 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by MovieMeditation (Post 1536095)
On another note... June 29th????

I don't think we have ever done one of these HUGE Top 100 forum-wide countdowns in such short notice? I'd rather wait to be honest... The thing that makes these lists great are the period leading up to it. Watching recommendations and such. Am I the only one thinking this?
No, as I said it's negotiable. If things seem pretty set by then we'll go with it. I can bend a couple weeks too.

The Rodent 06-23-16 12:40 PM

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I didn't see the timeline tbh, but yeah, June 29th, 6 days, is waaay to short a time.

Omnizoa 06-23-16 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by The Rodent (Post 1536102)
I didn't see the timeline tbh, but yeah, June 29th, 6 days, is waaay to short a time.
What do you guys suggest?

Camo 06-23-16 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by MovieMeditation (Post 1536095)
On another note... June 29th????

I don't think we have ever done one of these HUGE Top 100 forum-wide countdowns in such short notice? I'd rather wait to be honest... The thing that makes these lists great are the period leading up to it. Watching recommendations and such. Am I the only one thinking this?
No. These are usually things everyone on the site discusses for a while and we set a date and are given time to watch suggestions and such. We usually discuss what the next countdown will be as well. For some reason Omni has just decided what the next countdown will be and that it will be done before the 50's :rolleyes:

The Rodent 06-23-16 12:42 PM

Re: The MoFo Top 100 Action Movie Countdown
 
When is the 50s countdown taking place?
I'd suggest having the actual countdown for this one 2 weeks after the 50s countdown.

CosmicRunaway 06-23-16 12:43 PM

I didn't even notice it was that short a time frame. I think my mind is a month behind the calendar because I didn't realize it was already the 23rd of June.

Also, in case the joke wasn't obvious: please, no one watch Battlefield Earth. Unless you hate yourself and want to be miserable, that is.

rauldc14 06-23-16 12:43 PM

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Yeah, I'm not going to lie I'm a little upset, mainly because of all the work I have prepared for the 50s list for another list to just up and come about before that one.

Omnizoa 06-23-16 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by Camo (Post 1536105)
No. These are usually things everyone on the site discusses for a while and we set a date and are given time to watch suggestions and such. We usually discuss what the next countdown will be as well. For some reason Omni has just decided what the next countdown will be and that it will be done before the 50's :rolleyes:
Alright now, grumpypuss.

Omnizoa 06-23-16 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by rauldc14 (Post 1536109)
Yeah, I'm not going to lie I'm a little upset, mainly because of all the work I have prepared for the 50s list for another list to just up and come about before that one.
Okay, I'm going to push it back.

Camo 06-23-16 12:45 PM

Re: The MoFo Top 100 Action Movie Countdown
 
To be honest this is usually a thing everyone discusses. If people can just take it upon themselves to decide what the next countdown will be i imagine we'll see Musical and Noir and Comedy ones popping up every week.

The Rodent 06-23-16 12:46 PM

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Just checked, the 50s is going about 2/3 of the way through August... I'd suggest having this one end of Aug, beginning of September, which gives a small cooldown period between actual countdowns.
It'll give time for people to watch some movies and at the same time won't cross over the 50s list.

Omnizoa 06-23-16 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by Camo (Post 1536115)
To be honest this is usually a thing everyone discusses. If people can just take it upon themselves
It's OPEN to discussion, Camo. Shoo.

CosmicRunaway 06-23-16 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by rauldc14 (Post 1536109)
Yeah, I'm not going to lie I'm a little upset, mainly because of all the work I have prepared for the 50s list for another list to just up and come about before that one.
Maybe I misread intentions, but I thought the point of this was just to have a quick, fun list while everyone's waiting for your proper long-term one to play out.

Omnizoa 06-23-16 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by CosmicRunaway (Post 1536123)
Maybe I misread intentions, but I thought the point of this was just to have a quick, fun list while everyone's waiting for your proper long-term one to play out.
It could be either.

The Rodent 06-23-16 12:51 PM

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I've already sent in :D
Never takes me long to get a list together.

Camo 06-23-16 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by Omnizoa (Post 1536120)
It's OPEN to discussion, Camo. Shoo.
What discussion? You started a thread and set a date. Usually at least during the 50's Countdown we'd discuss what the next countdown will be and come to a decision. Not someone who hasn't been here long and who has never taken part in any of the countdowns just deciding it for us. I'm fine doing an Action one if that's what is decided, but others have been waiting for different countdowns to be done for a while and i don't see how you can just tell us it is Action next or even before the 50's one.

Omnizoa 06-23-16 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by The Rodent (Post 1536126)
I've already sent in :D
Never takes me long to get a list together.
Got it.

Already see some crossover.

Originally Posted by Camo
What discussion? You started a thread and set a date.
I asked if that's what people were up for, consensus agreed and I set a transparently tentative date which I've established will change due to feedback.

You're the only one who said you weren't interested in this, Camo, so why are you coming in to start ****?

MovieMeditation 06-23-16 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by CosmicRunaway (Post 1536123)
Originally Posted by rauldc14 (Post 1536109)
Yeah, I'm not going to lie I'm a little upset, mainly because of all the work I have prepared for the 50s list for another list to just up and come about before that one.
Maybe I misread intentions, but I thought the point of this was just to have a quick, fun list while everyone's waiting for your proper long-term one to play out.
No Top 100 on the forum is just a quick fun list.

Those have to be well-planned and properly worked out. I'd suggest leaving things as they are, but set a list-date around the beginning of the 50s countdown. And then the actual countdown for the action list will start a little while after the 50s countdown has ended.

Omnizoa 06-23-16 01:13 PM

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I'm still trying to coordinate with Raul, but at the moment I've pushed back the date to September 15th. What say you, action fiends?

The Gunslinger45 06-23-16 01:16 PM

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I can wait until after the 50's list. Still interested.

MovieMeditation 06-23-16 01:17 PM

Re: The MoFo Top 100 Action Movie Countdown
 
After the 50s list I'm on.

Omnizoa 06-23-16 01:18 PM

Re: The MoFo Top 100 Action Movie Countdown
 
Make it the beginning of October. Any complaints? Ladies? Gentlemen? Camo?

Camo 06-23-16 01:18 PM

I asked if that's what people were up for, consensus agreed and I set a transparently tentative date which I've established will change due to feedback.
You presented Action as the only choice. Again why do you who has never taken part in a countdown just get to decide what we are doing next? These happen twice maybe three times a year at most, so usually the whole forum gets a say. But obviously no, you who again hasn't taken part in any of these just gets to decide they are running an Action one next.

You're the only one who said you weren't interested in this, Camo, so why are you coming in to start ****?
That doesn't matter, if we were to decide to do a Musical one instead for instance which i would like to do less than an Action one i'd be fine with that since someone other than the almight Omnizoa had a say.

CosmicRunaway 06-23-16 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by MovieMeditation (Post 1536141)
No Top 100 on the forum is just a quick fun list.

Those have to be well-planned and properly worked out.
Since the list due date was in less than a week, I just figured it wasn't meant to be quite like the other ones, but that's a very fair point.

Originally Posted by Omnizoa (Post 1536146)
Make it the beginning of October.
:up:

The Rodent 06-23-16 01:22 PM

Re: The MoFo Top 100 Action Movie Countdown
 
Omni gets a countdown going and immediately gets grief.


Now I remember why I said I'd never do another one after I did the Comics.


Think I might pull the Performances one I was gauging interest for. I remember exactly how much hassle these things cause for the host.

Omnizoa 06-23-16 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by CosmicRunaway (Post 1536148)
Since the list due date was in less than a week, I just figured it wasn't meant to be quite like the other ones,
There's other stuff on the site that goes by quick (honestly, song tournaments are way more dependent on regular interactivity), so...


Omnizoa 06-23-16 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by The Rodent (Post 1536150)
Omni gets a countdown going and immediately gets grief.


Now I remember why I said I'd never do another one after I did the Comics.


Think I might pull the Performances one I was gauging interest for. I remember exactly how much hassle these things cause for the host.
Izzzokay. Granny's gotchy'all covered.

MovieMeditation 06-23-16 01:28 PM

Re: The MoFo Top 100 Action Movie Countdown
 
I once wanted to host a Sequel Top 100 and I got the same treatment, only because I wasn't sure how stuff like that worked at the time. So yeah, I'll never host a big countdown either...

Camo 06-23-16 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by The Rodent (Post 1536150)
Omni gets a countdown going and immediately gets grief.


Now I remember why I said I'd never do another one after I did the Comics.


Think I might pull the Performances one I was gauging interest for. I remember exactly how much hassle these things cause for the host.
Your idea is different. Like SC's quick movie star countdown it could run concurrently with the major one. Omni has just decided what the next major countdown is. He asked a bunch of movie fans who love countdowns if they'd be interested in this, of course they said yes. While the others who were waiting to bring their ideas up when the discussion actually happens get pushed aside for Prince Omni.

Omnizoa 06-23-16 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by MovieMeditation (Post 1536157)
I once wanted to host a Sequel Top 100 and I got the same treatment, only because I wasn't sure how stuff like that worked at the time. So yeah, I'll never host a big countdown either...
Top Sequels sounds cool.

Originally Posted by Camo
Omni has just decided what the next major countdown is.
Or isn't. Who's to say it gets taken seriously? Why must it necessarily steal attention away from any other activity thread?

I was prepared for people to have a week to send in a list of movies they've ALREADY SEEN, but if they want to take more time to actually see some, that's their prerogative.

Originally Posted by Camo
He asked a bunch of movie fans who love countdowns if they'd be interested in this, of course they said yes.
How insensitive I must be.

Originally Posted by Camo
While the others who were waiting to bring their ideas up when the discussion actually happens get pushed aside for Prince Omni.
Why are you waiting to have a discussion? Why not just have a discussion? Maybe a Countdown gets thrown out, it dies in the water, and nothing significant comes of it, so what? You're gonna insult me for trying?

Pardon me if I don't act beholden to your schedule or are part of this "circle of privilege" you seem to have erected for deciding these things.

Swan 06-23-16 01:41 PM

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Action movies are boooooooooring.

Omnizoa 06-23-16 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by Swan (Post 1536167)
Action movies are boooooooooring.
What happened to Swan, the pinky violence fan?

Swan 06-23-16 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by Omnizoa (Post 1536169)
What happened to Swan, the pinky violence fan?
Fair enough.

I was kidding anyway. Have fun with whatever happens!

Omnizoa 06-23-16 01:54 PM

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Incidentally, I have 2 lists now and like any true action hero I intend to PERSEVERE.

Camo 06-23-16 01:57 PM

Pardon me if I don't act beholden to your schedule or are part of this "circle of privilege" you seem to have erected for deciding these things.
It was actually Yoda who decided that these need to be done within an unofficial schedule so people would have sufficient time to watch movies for it, there wouldn't be too many running at once and most importantly so everyone would have a say. Obviously though you are special and can just decide and that is exactly what you've done what the next countdown will be and when it will happen. These only happen about twice a year and you have never taken part in any of these but that doesn't matter of course. Omni has decided. What will be after that?

CosmicRunaway 06-23-16 01:58 PM

Maybe there should be a thread about unofficial forum etiquette so people don't unintentionally offend regulars who expect things to be done a certain way. If only people who have been previously involved in other countdown threads know what the unspoken rules are, then misunderstandings are bound to to happen.

If there is a thread like this and I've missed it, do let me know.

Citizen Rules 06-23-16 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by Camo (Post 1536197)
It was actually Yoda who decided that these need to be done within an unofficial schedule so people would have sufficient time to watch movies for it, there wouldn't be too many running at once and most importantly so everyone would have a say. Obviously though you are special and can just decide and that is exactly what you've done what the next countdown will be and when it will happen. These only happen about twice a year and you have never taken part in any of these but that doesn't matter of course. Omni has decided. What will be after that?
Wrong. Yoda never made a ruling saying who could do what Countdowns and when. Yoda stated his own personal opinion on what countdown he thought should go next and he was clear in letting us know it was only his opinion and not a ruling.

Omnizoa 06-23-16 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by Camo (Post 1536197)
It was actually Yoda who decided that these need to be done within an unofficial schedule so people would have sufficient time to watch movies for it, there wouldn't be too many running at once and most importantly so everyone would have a say. Obviously though you are special
A one-man army with a total lack of diplomacy and weaponry to spare? You're PERFECT for this thread!

Originally Posted by CosmicRunaway
Maybe there should be a thread about unofficial forum etiquette so people don't unintentionally offend regulars who expect things to be done a certain way.
If it was a stickied thread, it'd be official, otherwise I'd call BS.

"Unintentionally offending regulars" is the type of walking-on-eggshells gunshy newbies shouldn't have to deal with. A community should be open and reciprocative. I've been on those kinds of forums.

They SUCK.

Yoda 06-23-16 02:14 PM

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Just to clarify, there are no official rules about who can start countdowns or when, and while I won't rule out creating such a rule, I'm only going to do it if things get really crazy. I think the countdowns work because they're grassroots-based and user-organized, and I want to interfere with that as little as possible. You guys have been awesome about all getting in line and coming to your own consensus about who runs these, and I'm not going to mess with that unless I absolutely have to.

It's certainly my personal opinion, though, that they work much better when they don't overlap (or, at most, that a smaller/more casual one only overlaps a little with a larger/more serious one). I think it's better to have people wanting more and looking forward to these than risk saturating the idea, but again, that's just an opinion. And it's not just a preference thing: it's really hard getting a large number of lists even with one running exclusively, so I think it might be especially hard if there are two going.

But, provided someone doesn't mind the prospect of a lower "turnout" and just wants to do something quick and fun, it's certainly up to them. And if someone else thinks that's too many, I'd ask you to just make up your own mind about whether to participate, but let them do their thing.

donniedarko 06-23-16 02:22 PM

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Too many lists kinda ruin the point of the lists. The previous ones have all been well thought out as far as topic, deadline, and host- by the whole community. While this was just scrapped together. And also Omni has only been here 6 months, if the deadline is pushed all the way to after the 50s list who knows if he'll even be here? I believe Guap tried to do something similar when he first joined and it failed. I really don't think we need another list. I'm with Camo and Raul on this

Omnizoa 06-23-16 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by donniedarko (Post 1536215)
who knows if he'll even be here?
Betting against my activity?

I have a post average of around 16 posts per day and that includes over 80 long rambling reviews since I started. I've been on this website for the past 6 hours.

I fear that's a gamble you will lose.

donniedarko 06-23-16 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by Omnizoa (Post 1536224)
Betting against my activity?

I have a post average of around 16 posts per day and that includes over 80 long rambling reviews since I started. I've been on this website for the past 6 hours.

I fear that's a gamble you will lose.
I'm not rooting against you. But everyone on this forum longer than a year have seen people who post like addicts for a few months come and go

donniedarko 06-23-16 02:36 PM

Re: The MoFo Top 100 Action Movie Countdown
 
I wouldn't even bet on myself doing one of these, since occasionally I'm gone for a few weeks. That's why the hosts of these have usually been thought out

Citizen Rules 06-23-16 02:39 PM

Re: The MoFo Top 100 Action Movie Countdown
 
DonnieDarko, did you not read the last paragraph of Yoda's post?

Yoda 06-23-16 02:42 PM

Re: The MoFo Top 100 Action Movie Countdown
 
I'm not gonna tell anyone they can't argue about this, but I'd really like it to be in the constructive criticism vein. And heck, maybe even semi-privately. I'd like there to be a "live and let list" attitude here. It's certainly true that too many lists can dilute things...but only if you feel obligated to participate in all of them. If you basically ignore the ones you don't care about, a big part of the problem goes away.

MovieMeditation 06-23-16 02:45 PM

Re: The MoFo Top 100 Action Movie Countdown
 
I think people should run as many countdowns as they like.

I just think that the big Top 100 forum-wide one-two-per-year kind of lists, shouldn't be rushed and shouldn't overlap too much with other thread, definitely not another big countdown like the 50s list.

But hey, it looks like everything is sorted out now. We had a rough start but it looks like we agree on waiting a bit and in that time frame people will have plenty of time to watch both 50s movies and action flicks. :)

Omnizoa 06-23-16 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by donniedarko
I believe Guap tried to do something similar when he first joined and it failed.
Source, source, and source. On all occasions he gave up, and if it's not already apparent; giving up seems to be a pretty Guap thing to do.

Originally Posted by donniedarko (Post 1536226)
I wouldn't even bet on myself doing one of these, since occasionally I'm gone for a few weeks. That's why the hosts of these have usually been thought out
I have no other preoccupations save a swift and sudden seizing illness.

Originally Posted by Yoda
If you basically ignore the ones you don't care about, a big part of the problem goes away.
*laughs* THANKS.

Originally Posted by MovieMeditation
We had a rough start but it looks like we agree on waiting a bit and in that time frame people will have plenty of time to watch both 50s movies and action flicks.
And maybe both at the SAME TIME.

MovieMeditation 06-23-16 03:01 PM

Re: The MoFo Top 100 Action Movie Countdown
 
Oh, and one last thing.

I kind of went along here and just agreed on a lot of things without thinking of the most important thing: many people want to do a list. I'm not sure if the action countdown would be the next of interest... but one day, whenever it might be and whenever it might fit... I'm totally in!

donniedarko 06-23-16 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by Omnizoa (Post 1536243)
And maybe both at the SAME TIME.
I'm sure Raul would love that

Omnizoa 06-23-16 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by donniedarko (Post 1536249)
I'm sure Raul would love that
Raul doesn't like 50s action movies?

donniedarko 06-23-16 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by Citizen Rules (Post 1536228)
DonnieDarko, did you not read the last paragraph of Yoda's post?
I'm just trying to discuss how to make a potential action list better

Omnizoa 06-23-16 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by donniedarko (Post 1536280)
I'm just trying to discuss how to make a potential action list better
PLEASE, suggest away.

donniedarko 06-23-16 03:41 PM

Re: The MoFo Top 100 Action Movie Countdown
 
I would reommend not even taking lists until the 50s countdown is over- as has previously been done. But hey that's just my opinion

Omnizoa 06-23-16 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by donniedarko (Post 1536283)
I would reommend not even taking lists until the 50s countdown is over- as has previously been done. But hey that's just my opinion
Okeedoke.

Well, my opinion is that there's no harm in taking lists so long as the actual Countdown itself does not steal attention away from another.

*EDIT: Which even then, wouldn't be unreasonable given a wealth of countdowns which certain people have attested to. Besides, I'm not controlling what people are watching for these things. No one has to watch anything, let alone join the countdown, but regardless they will make their own decisions.

False Writer 06-23-16 05:47 PM

Re: The MoFo Top 100 Action Movie Countdown
 
I'm down for this; will be sending a list in sometime soon.

I don't think there's any reason to be overly hostile towards Omni, especially since he (or she, still don't know what gender you are exactly :p) was willing to move the due date so to not interfere with the 50s countdown.

Nope1172 06-23-16 06:00 PM

Two countdowns at once? Why? I thought there was a specific order for the next countdowns?

donniedarko 06-23-16 09:05 PM

Re: The MoFo Top 100 Action Movie Countdown
 
There was

Omnizoa 06-23-16 11:41 PM

Originally Posted by False Writer (Post 1536358)
I'm down for this; will be sending a list in sometime soon.
Good to have you in on it. :up:

Zotis 06-23-16 11:51 PM

Re: The MoFo Top 100 Action Movie Countdown
 
My suggestion would be that you guys turn this thread into the discussion for it upcoming at an as-of-yet unspecified date at least sometime after the 50's countdown. But also Omnizoa, I should mention that the community usually discusses collectively which top 100 countdowns they're going to do in advance. So you should propose that they do an action countdown next, check for interest, and make arrangements with the rest of the community. Otherwise it will probably be a messy conflict of interest.

Omnizoa 06-23-16 11:57 PM

Originally Posted by Zotis (Post 1536467)
My suggestion would be that you guys turn this thread into the discussion for it upcoming at an as-of-yet unspecified date at least sometime after the 50's countdown. But also Omnizoa, I should mention that the community usually discusses collectively which top 100 countdowns they're going to do in advance. So you should propose that they do an action countdown next, check for interest, and make arrangements with the rest of the community. Otherwise it will probably be a messy conflict of interest.
Well that's nothing new. You can't please everyone.

Omnizoa 06-24-16 12:12 AM

Re: The MoFo Top 100 Action Movie Countdown
 
I'll be frank, the prospect of keeping my hands in my lap, waiting for several months for a collective "no, we've already decided on something else" is not exactly enticing.

Originally Posted by MovieMeditation
Well, **** this countdown. Looks like people have more hate than love for this to happen, and with the attitudes people bring I'd rather just end this right here. Yes, this is more ambitious and it's a challenge to establish, but I can't see why you can't just stay out of the thread if you only have hate and negative things to say. Or at least be patient to see what it turns out to be as this is still in its starting fase. But whatever.
Originally Posted by Camo
Well usually we only run one Countdown at a time, and you just started this thread without any feedback from the rest of the site. There should be a poll to decide on what we do after the 60s rather than someone just starting a thread declaring something nextt,
That was over a YEAR AGO. That ****in' sucks!

"Maybe try again next year" is not a game I'm willing to play on a forum. It's just a short list of movies and it doesn't necessarily have to involve more then that.

So PARDON ME, but I'm not bending to that crap.

donniedarko 06-24-16 01:07 AM

Re: The MoFo Top 100 Action Movie Countdown
 
Ok ok, Prince Omni. I thought you were so committed to this forum I shouldn't even question your activity? What's a year too young?

donniedarko 06-24-16 01:08 AM

Re: The MoFo Top 100 Action Movie Countdown
 
And Raul waited quite awhile to host a countdown, I bet over a year. But prince Omni can't, :shrug:

Omnizoa 06-24-16 01:35 AM

Re: The MoFo Top 100 Action Movie Countdown
 
Originally Posted by donniedarko
I thought you were so committed to this forum I shouldn't even question your activity? What's a year too young?
I think I'm a pretty patient person when it comes to time. But I'm also pretty intolerant of wasting it.

If this is the whole reason there aren't more genre countdowns after so many years, of course I'm going to interject.

Originally Posted by donniedarko
Prince Omni
Do you have something meaningful to contribute or are you just dribbling at the mouth? I wasn't insulting you or Camo, but you guys can't seem to help yourselves.

Zotis 06-24-16 03:26 AM

Re: The MoFo Top 100 Action Movie Countdown
 
Well, you're encroaching on a tradition many years old without endorsement. It seems a bit disrespectful to me. I certainly won't be supporting it. Wait your turn like everybody else, or do it on some other site and call it something else. Remember, you're still a relative newcomer here. You say you're pretty patient, but your actions are saying something else.

Nope1172 06-24-16 03:53 AM

Re: The MoFo Top 100 Action Movie Countdown
 
Omni, I think it is pretty rude to intrude on a schedule and plan that people made. I know Raul was waiting patiently to start the 50s HoF for a long time. He had to wait until the Documentary HoF was over, and you just started yours without letting anyone know. I think your an ok member Omni, but I think it was pretty obnoxious to start the countdown without really consulting anyone.

gbgoodies 06-24-16 04:06 AM

To those of you who are complaining that Omni just jumped in and started this countdown without asking about it or consulting anyone, did any of you read Omni's previous thread?

Interest Check: MoFo Top 100 Action Movies

Numerous people posted in there showing interest in the countdown and saying that they're "in", but nobody bothered to explain to Omni how these countdowns work. There were at least 10 people, many who have been on this forum for years, who said they were interested, but nobody explained that there's an order to these countdowns, and there might be other people who have been waiting to do other countdowns.

Instead, you guys just all jumped on the bandwagon and let Omni start the thread, and then complained that the countdown was started too soon.

Maybe instead of attacking Omni for wanting to get involved and host a fun forum activity, you should have taken the time to politely explain to a new member how things work around here with these countdowns.

Zotis 06-24-16 04:29 AM

Re: The MoFo Top 100 Action Movie Countdown
 
I just saw this thread tonight, didn't see his interest check thread. Yeah, I'm surprised by the people who said they were in even though this wasn't properly organised and nothing was explained to Omni. Very strange...

Omnizoa 06-24-16 05:37 AM

Originally Posted by Zotis
Well, you're encroaching on a tradition
I don't hold tradition in very high esteem. Virtue by "that's the way things have always been" doesn't fly very far with me.

Originally Posted by Nope1172
I think it was pretty obnoxious to start the countdown without really consulting anyone.
Omni leaned back in his chair, contemplative. She idled back and forth between pronouns mulling over the situation in his head. How best to appropriate empathy for her perspective?

That's when it hit him: Go meta.

She leaned into his keyboard and began typing a response.

"I find this whole situation particularly trivial," she said in mild irration, adapting to the format with increasing fervor, "considering that I come from RP community forums where the primary activity threads each have their own seperate individual handbook-style FAQ threads and users are essentially expected to commit to writing what amounts to a short novel one page per day, spelling and grammar standards included.

There was less bitching over THAT.

That asking if anyone would like to volunteer a short list of movies they like is some great imposition is laughable by comparison."


Omni returned back to her comfortable recline and pondered the ramifications of such a post. <It'll likely brushed off.>, he concluded, resigned to the inevitability of rocking the proverbial boat. <It's no skin of my back.>, Omnizoa thought, not a split second before the sniper bullet peeled through the nearby window and struck her in the base of the skull, painting the wall in a rainbow of viscera.

CosmicRunaway 06-24-16 06:15 AM

Originally Posted by Zotis (Post 1536554)
Yeah, I'm surprised by the people who said they were in even though this wasn't properly organised and nothing was explained to Omni. Very strange...
Some people really like action movies, and didn't realize the whole thing would elicit such ire.

If the title was changed to something else so that it wasn't exactly part of the "MoFo Top 100" series of countdowns (that is if Omni was willing to move on the subject), would that be better? For example, if it was like Sexy Celebrity's lists, but instead of just posting individual ones as they come in, Omni collected them all first and sorted them by popularity.

We could change the total number of movies in the list (either higher or lower), but if people still think it's stepping on the toes of the other Countdown or on forum tradition, then I guess no changes will make everyone happy.

Omnizoa 06-24-16 08:26 AM

Re: The MoFo Top 100 Action Movie Countdown
 
Here's the reality of the situation:

I didn't start a competing Movie of the Month thread.

I didn't even start a Hall of Fame which specifically requires participants to sink hours into actually watching movies.

I simply said I'm taking lists.


If that OFFENDS you or strikes you as selfish, insensitive, or the moral outrage seizes you to the point of gibbering derision, then please, feel free to continue insulting me, because it keeps the thread active and ultimately nothing will change.

If you don't want to participate out of principal or general dislike of action movies, that's A-Okay with me. I'm not asking you to watch anything.

To everyone else, I'm not going anywhere so LET'S DO THIS! *cocks shotgun*


PS: I certainly don't want the 50s Countdown to go anywhere, I'm making a list for that too.

Zotis 06-24-16 10:44 AM

Re: The MoFo Top 100 Action Movie Countdown
 
Classic

Omnizoa 06-24-16 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by Zotis (Post 1536638)
Classic
What is "Classic Omnizoa" to you, Zotis?

I don't imagine anything positive. Or even fair despite my efforts to have rational discussions.

donniedarko 06-24-16 11:41 AM

Re: The MoFo Top 100 Action Movie Countdown
 
Prince Omni went from I'm very open to suggestions, to I'm not going anywhere. Very authoritarian style of government. Soon he'll start editing out movies from lists. I'd be careful with this one

Omnizoa 06-24-16 11:48 AM

Re: The MoFo Top 100 Action Movie Countdown
 
Originally Posted by donniedarko (Post 1536672)
Prince Omni went from I'm very open to suggestions, to I'm not going anywhere. Very authoritarian style of government.
Oooh, yes. Beware, I might actually start thinking for myself.

Originally Posted by donniedarko
Soon he'll start editing out movies from lists. I'd be careful with this one
Sounds like a dick move to me.

donniedarko 06-24-16 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by Omnizoa (Post 1536676)

Sounds like a dick move to me.
Has that stopped you before?

Omnizoa 06-24-16 11:57 AM

Re: The MoFo Top 100 Action Movie Countdown
 
Originally Posted by donniedarko
Has that stopped you before?
Such an honest question! But I believe you said yourself I was new at this so WHO KNOWS???

Or are you just asking if I'd put it past me in general?

Hmmm... I think the best way for you to find out is by submitting a list. And see where your flaming gets you.

Swan 06-24-16 12:04 PM

Re: The MoFo Top 100 Action Movie Countdown
 
http://rs5.pbsrc.com/albums/y176/Hat...stler.gif~c200

donniedarko 06-24-16 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by Omnizoa (Post 1536680)
Such an honest question! But I believe you said yourself I was new at this so WHO KNOWS???

Or are you just asking if I'd put it past me in general?

Hmmm... I think the best way for you to find out is by submitting a list. And see where your flaming gets you.
Wow,Prince Omni you sound great for a position as Moderator. Have you considered asking Yoda to become one? Or you could just proclaim yourself one, if you so wish.

Omnizoa 06-24-16 12:16 PM

Re: The MoFo Top 100 Action Movie Countdown
 
Originally Posted by donniedarko
Wow,Prince Omni you sound great for a position as Moderator.
I'm an Administrator on certain websites, actually.

Originally Posted by donniedarko
Have you considered asking Yoda to become one?
AS an Administrator, I'm inclined to question the motives of someone who requests mod powers.

Odds are pretty good they're not in it for the responsibility.

donniedarko 06-24-16 12:23 PM

Re: The MoFo Top 100 Action Movie Countdown
 
Maybe you should start a Top 100 list on "Prince Omni's accomplishments" instead? Since the thread is all about you, anyways

urkillinmesmalls 06-24-16 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by Omnizoa (Post 1536565)
She leaned into his keyboard and began typing a response.

"I find this whole situation particularly trivial," she said in mild irration, adapting to the format with increasing fervor, "considering that I come from RP community forums where the primary activity threads each have their own seperate individual handbook-style FAQ threads and users are essentially expected to commit to writing what amounts to a short novel one page per day, spelling and grammar standards included.

There was less bitching over THAT.

That asking if anyone would like to volunteer a short list of movies they like is some great imposition is laughable by comparison."


Omni returned back to her comfortable recline and pondered the ramifications of such a post. <It'll likely brushed off.>, he concluded, resigned to the inevitability of rocking the proverbial boat. <It's no skin of my back.>, Omnizoa thought, not a split second before the sniper bullet peeled through the nearby window and struck her in the base of the skull, painting the wall in a rainbow of viscera.
That's some damn good writing...

Omnizoa 06-24-16 12:38 PM

Re: The MoFo Top 100 Action Movie Countdown
 
Originally Posted by donniedarko
Maybe you should start a Top 100 list on "Prince Omni's accomplishments" instead? Since the thread is all about you, anyways
Well, my middle name is "ACTION", so no arguments there.

I do wonder what I'd fill the list with...

I once did 2 pull-ups in a row. That was pretty cool.

Originally Posted by urkillinmesmalls
That's some damn good writing...
It is LITTERED WITH GRAMMATICAL ERRORS, WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU!?

Swan 06-24-16 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by Omnizoa (Post 1536721)
It is LITTERED WITH GRAMMATICAL ERRORS, WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU!?
True. You forgot the s in "she" multiple times.

Omnizoa 06-24-16 01:10 PM

Re: The MoFo Top 100 Action Movie Countdown
 
A little trivia:

We now have 3 lists comprising a pool of 66 movies. Only 2 movies appear across all 3 lists.

urkillinmesmalls 06-24-16 03:50 PM

Re: The MoFo Top 100 Action Movie Countdown
 
Question: Why does every countdown need to be official? It's not hurting anyone if somebody wants to do their own thing without the bureaucratic bullsh!t

Omnizoa 06-24-16 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by urkillinmesmalls (Post 1536895)
Question: Why does every countdown need to be official? It's not hurting anyone if somebody wants to do their own thing without the bureaucratic bullsh!t
I think it's since I did a genre thing. Although, considering that people are suggesting redoing the Horror list, it doesn't seem outside the realm of reason to simply redo Action if people don't like what they get.

Camo 06-24-16 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by urkillinmesmalls (Post 1536895)
Question: Why does every countdown need to be official? It's not hurting anyone if somebody wants to do their own thing without the bureaucratic bullsh!t
This will be my last post in this thread, i won't mention Omni after the next paragraph so there is no need for me to respond after this.

The Countdowns have been done as a collective thing before i even joined the site, everyone usually has their place in the decision. As much as Omni mocks it, it was always a site thing i know no one here had more say than whoever else on what the next one would be.

My post in his interest thread here - http://www.movieforums.com/community...34#post1535934 .
I thought this was just running an idea by everyone like Rodent did here for instance with the Top 100 Redo which i supported - http://www.movieforums.com/community...ad.php?t=43834

In the end most didn't want it so that was fine. We decided to do it after we had went through the decades, it became an unofficial thing that we include a genre (whatever if Guap is still watching over us) in between the Decades so Action would be fine if it was a decision overall. Instead we got a suggestion before the 50's Countdown started becoming the next thing. if before the Action one even starts someone suggests or even just starts up a thread for a whatever countdown then that's it.

I know this sounds like i take these countdowns too seriously, maybe i do. But i always felt these were the only constant on this forum the one thing that all of our varied members had a say in, so it feels a bit annoying that we don't even get to discuss what the next one is.

Also Brexit/Bremain :sick:

Omnizoa 06-24-16 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by Camo (Post 1536969)
This will be my last post in this thread, i won't mention Omni after the next paragraph so there is no need for me to respond after this.

The Countdowns have been done as a collective thing before i even joined the site, everyone usually has their place in the decision. As much as Omni mocks it, it was always a site thing i know no one here had more say than whoever else on what the next one would be.

My post in his interest thread here - http://www.movieforums.com/community...34#post1535934 .
I thought this was just running an idea by everyone like Rodent did here for instance with the Top 100 Redo which i supported - http://www.movieforums.com/community...ad.php?t=43834

In the end most didn't want it so that was fine. We decided to do it after we had went through the decades, it became an unofficial thing that we include a genre (whatever if Guap is still watching over us) in between the Decades so Action would be fine if it was a decision overall. Instead we got a suggestion before the 50's Countdown started becoming the next thing. if before the Action one even starts someone suggests or even just starts up a thread for a whatever countdown then that's it.

I know this sounds like i take these countdowns too seriously, maybe i do. But i always felt these were the only constant on this forum the one thing that all of our varied members had a say in, so it feels a bit annoying that we don't even get to discuss what the next one is.

Also Brexit/Bremain :sick:
Fair post.

cricket 06-24-16 05:44 PM

I haven't had a chance to read all the posts, but when I said it was a great idea, it didn't occur to me that it'd be right away. The fairest way for everyone is to wait until after the 50's and Rodent's countdown. I wouldn't participate until then because it wouldn't be right. It's still very nice of you to take care of all the work that being a host entails, Omni.

Omnizoa 06-24-16 11:25 PM

Originally Posted by cricket (Post 1536986)
The fairest way for everyone is to wait until after the 50's and Rodent's countdown.
Does Rodent's Countdown even have a date set? It seems like a lot of people are still confused over the details.

Omnizoa 06-24-16 11:38 PM

We now have 4 Lists spanning 86 Movies, 12 of which are appear twice.


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