| Stirchley | 09-16-22 01:52 PM |
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It’s back for its penultimate series. Two strong episodes in & both directed by Elisabeth Moss.
The Handmaid's Tale
Anyone catching the new series? I just watched the first episode and it was fabulous, it perfectly captures the tone of Atwood's novel... and it's adaptation couldn't have been timed much better :lol:
Not sure about some of the cast choices, but Elisabeth Moss as Offred is wonderful, so I'll give the others a choice. |
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I havent heard of this new show so not sure if we get it here yet. I read the book years ago.
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I've been thinking about watching it but i kinda want to read the book first. I read Oryx and Crake last year and liked it.
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Originally Posted by Dani8 (Post 1701143)
I havent heard of this new show so not sure if we get it here yet. I read the book years ago.
Did you happen to see Elizabeth Moss in the NZ show Top of the Lake? Really good & I'm waiting for season 2 on DVD. |
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I heard top of the lake was really good but haven't seen it yet. I generally only watch 2 shows at a time. 3 Max then I start disconnecting.
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I have to keep iPad notes of which shows I am watching so I don't miss any of the seasons. HOC, for example, starts up again at the end of the month. If I didn't write it down, I would never remember this. Right now, I guess I am only streaming Handmaid & Silicon Valley, but there are TV shows that I only watch when the DVD comes out. Good job I'm retired now. :)
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Originally Posted by Camo (Post 1701144)
I've been thinking about watching it but i kinda want to read the book first. I read Oryx and Crake last year and liked it.
Also, I just found out that Ms Moss is a Scientologist... in a show about resisting extremist religions and patriarchy. Odd :lol: |
Originally Posted by CiCi (Post 1701919)
Best book I've ever read. Atwood is one of my favourite writers!
Also, I just found out that Ms Moss is a Scientologist... in a show about resisting extremist religions and patriarchy. Odd :lol: @Stirchley I watched and posted about Top of the Lake here - https://www.movieforums.com/communit...23#post1650623 I had some problems with it but overall it was very good. |
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Elisabeth Moss is a Scientologist? No way, that's not computing :( I love her in Mad Men and in Top of the Lake. I'm disappointed in her life choices now :D
So CiCi are you sure I should watch it? I hold the book in pretty high regard, I was dubious about an adaptation. Not watched the 1990 film either. |
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I've been watching this, it's really great. I saw Atwood speak in London last year, she's very interesting. I'm not much of a reader but I think I will give one of her Novels a go.
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I really want to watch it, but don't know where to.
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I'm an episode behind but this is great so far. Chilling and enthralling.
Moss is naturally great and I'm loving Ann Dowd practically twirling mustaches again after The Leftovers. I'm super curious about Yvonne Strahovski. I hadn't really noticed her as an actress before but she's got a difficult role here and has played up the intensity quite well. There's a great acting showcase in store for her soon. Looking forward to seeing how she plays it. I'm also super excited to get a weekly show with Reed Morano's visual style. |
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If you like Elisabeth Moss, give "The One I Love" a chance. It's a quirky film that reeled me in and she is evry good in it.
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CiCi - I'm loving it! I think they've managed to update it to our times without losing anything of the intent. Thanks for recommending :)
Originally Posted by Saunch (Post 1704617)
Moss is naturally great and I'm loving Ann Dowd practically twirling mustaches again after The Leftovers. She's a fantastic baddie, loved her in The Leftovers, can't wait to see series 3 |
wow, this show is amazing so far. i read the book like a million years ago and i think it captures the tone of the book very well.
i'm kind of sick of the flashbacks though. i mean i like the interesting ones, the ones that show the progression, or should i say, decline of our society as we know it, but i'm really bored of the ones of Offred and her then-husband. the last episode was probably the best one so far - the backstory to the main commander and his wife is really compelling.
Originally Posted by CiCi
Also, I just found out that Ms Moss is a Scientologist... in a show about resisting extremist religions and patriarchy. Odd :laugh:
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Originally Posted by Swan (Post 1704594)
I really want to watch it, but don't know where to.
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Phenomenal series.
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Originally Posted by earlsmoviepicks (Post 1719264)
Phenomenal series.
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I will just chime in with the rest of you and say this really is an amazing show! It rings so true today and I am so glad it is on. There are vast segments of society today of young people that I feel have no idea what oppression looks like or, more importantly, feels like. This show immerses you right in the middle of it so you get to find out in a very visceral way.
Usually there are a few slower episodes or not as interesting storylines on any TV show, but I have been completely glued to the TV each episode. I have not seen a show this captivating for a very long time. And yes, the acting is superb. I don't think there is one bad performance in there. It's amazing to watch a machine firing on all cylinders. Kudos to everyone involved. |
I've been catching up on Season 1 as season 2 is just around the corner. Great show.
Here's a bunch of screencaps I made that show how the DoPs use symmetry in the show. It accentuates that feeling that Gilead is a highly authoritarian, controlled, facist, rigid state. https://i.imgur.com/EhPUy8f.gif |
Originally Posted by ScarletLion (Post 1883710)
Here's a bunch of screencaps I made that show how the DoPs use symmetry in the show. It accentuates that feeling that Gilead is a highly authoritarian, controlled, facist, rigid state.
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Anybody watching the new season? I'm gonna wait till they are all done so I can binge watch them. This may be the best show I saw last year. Can't wait for the second season to finish!
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Originally Posted by Powdered Water (Post 1898800)
Anybody watching the new season? I'm gonna wait till they are all done so I can binge watch them. This may be the best show I saw last year. Can't wait for the second season to finish!
Doing the same. Came too close to having an episode spoiled online, but good thing for my recently discovered ninja-like reflexes. Never exited a site so fast. |
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I’m trying to make time so I can re-watch the first season because, I don’t know, OCD.
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Originally Posted by Powdered Water (Post 1898800)
Anybody watching the new season? I'm gonna wait till they are all done so I can binge watch them. This may be the best show I saw last year. Can't wait for the second season to finish!
Originally Posted by MonnoM (Post 1898806)
Doing the same. Came too close to having an episode spoiled online, but good thing for my recently discovered ninja-like reflexes. Never exited a site so fast.
Originally Posted by Saunch (Post 1898809)
I’m trying to make time so I can re-watch the first season because, I don’t know, OCD.
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Just started a re-watch. I remember now a good chunk of the show but I really went hard on this one. I may have watched it in a one or two day period. The first 30 minutes of the show had me hooked. Hard.
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My wife and I gave this a shot this week, but we bailed after about 30 minutes. Aside from some above average camera work, the show was pretty terrible across the board, filled with cliche and over-the-top postmodern drivel.
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Glad I wasn't the only one that thought it overrated.
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The show itself maybe getting a little weaker with certain elements seemingly dragging the plot along forcefully, but the cinematography of episode 6 was off the charts:
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Originally Posted by ScarletLion (Post 2021238)
The show itself maybe getting a little weaker with certain elements seemingly dragging the plot along forcefully, but the cinematography of episode 6 was off the charts:
https://i.imgur.com/ncGsyhn.gif Promise I'm not stalking you SL! I'm only halfway through the 2nd season and whilst its not as good as the 1st I'm still enjoying it. |
Originally Posted by the samoan lawyer (Post 2021241)
Promise I'm not stalking you SL!
I'm only halfway through the 2nd season and whilst its not as good as the 1st I'm still enjoying it. |
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I think season 3 so far is better than season 2 was. So many weird, seemingly random things happened in season 2. Season 3 seems to be marching along with an end goal in mind, for a change.
I am, though, getting tired of June standing up for herself at all the wrong times. This show needs to have a definite end date so they can start heading there... right away. :D I agree on the lovely cinematography, though. Striking shots this past week. |
Originally Posted by ScarletLion (Post 2021243)
Aesthetically, it is hugely impressive. The DoPs are Stuart Biddlecombe and Colin Watkinson (who did The Fall, which looked mesmerizing). Very clever camera placement and very lovely wide shots with lots of deep reds and teals. Beautiful stuff.
Originally Posted by Austruck (Post 2021275)
This show needs to have a definite end date so they can start heading there... right now
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Originally Posted by ScarletLion (Post 2021238)
The show itself maybe getting a little weaker with certain elements seemingly dragging the plot along forcefully, but the cinematography of episode 6 was off the charts
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Finally - season 4 arrives April 28 on Hulu. And, apparently, 3 episodes will drop simultaneously rather than one. Hooray!
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Watched the first 3 episodes last night of season 4. Very bleak & dark. Good stuff.
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Watched the first episode of season 4. Will watch the other two later tonight/this weekend. It's really starting to feel as if they need to wrap up this story, though.
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Originally Posted by Austruck (Post 2200183)
Watched the first episode of season 4. Will watch the other two later tonight/this weekend. It's really starting to feel as if they need to wrap up this story, though.
Surprisingly to me they are talking a fifth season. |
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O dear.
I sure hope they find something new to tackle instead of the usual June-almost-gets-out-but-goes-back-presumably-to-get-Hannah bit they've done every season. Throw in a few times where June attacks people, kills people, or leads other people to kill people--and yet somehow manages to never get more than just tortured herself, and you've got just about any season of this show now. |
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So we've waited how long for the 4th season ? Like 2 years almost ?
I've seen some videos about how they made the show. They did modified a bit the "original" book..... just to be more captivating on the screen :up: She got many roles since then.... |
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Tonight is the final episode of this season. Sure am gonna miss it, but there’ll be another season.
Can’t wait to stream it this evening for the denouément. |
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We got it here last week, so I've already seen it. It's quite a finale for the season!!
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Originally Posted by Austruck (Post 2214925)
We got it here last week, so I've already seen it. It's quite a finale for the season!!
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Originally Posted by Stirchley (Post 2215367)
What did you think of it?
WARNING: "Season finale spoilerish thoughts" spoilers below
But the very end-ending made me wonder (as June has inevitably led so many other survivors into her dark places now) if we will be coaxed into ending our unwavering support for June and most of her choices.
It was, though, a gratifying season finale in many ways. Left open some very important points (will Luke be able to stay with this version of June? will he let her leave? will they ever get Hannah back?) and yet they clearly ended some things in blunt ways (goodbye, Commander!). So many questions left to answer in this series (what about Nick? will he get out of Gilead and pair up with June and their daughter? will Gilead ever fall? will babies be able to be conceived normally by most people again?)... but I hope they don't drag everything out for, say, another three or four seasons. It's starting to feel like a natural conclusion could be closer rather than further away. And that's fine with me. I'm wondering if June will end up going back to Gilead to get Hannah, perhaps aided by Nick, and then all three of them escape back to Canada... |
Originally Posted by Austruck (Post 2215404)
I spent a lot of this season getting my head around the fact that so much of it did NOT take place in Gilead. And I appreciate that they didn't gloss over any PTSD symptoms that June (or others) might have had.
WARNING: "Season finale spoilerish thoughts" spoilers below
But the very end-ending made me wonder (as June has inevitably led so many other survivors into her dark places now) if we will be coaxed into ending our unwavering support for June and most of her choices.
It was, though, a gratifying season finale in many ways. Left open some very important points (will Luke be able to stay with this version of June? will he let her leave? will they ever get Hannah back?) and yet they clearly ended some things in blunt ways (goodbye, Commander!). So many questions left to answer in this series (what about Nick? will he get out of Gilead and pair up with June and their daughter? will Gilead ever fall? will babies be able to be conceived normally by most people again?)... but I hope they don't drag everything out for, say, another three or four seasons. It's starting to feel like a natural conclusion could be closer rather than further away. And that's fine with me. I'm wondering if June will end up going back to Gilead to get June, perhaps aided by Nick, and then all three of them escape back to Canada... They’re saying next season will be the last. What would work for me is June gets Hannah back to Luke. June stays with Nick & their baby. But … what to do with Nick’s secret second wife? Does he have kids with her? Janine has to end up happy in the show. I think we can all agree on this. Undecided about Aunt Lydia. Is she going to end up similar to Fred? |
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I used spoilers because I wasn't sure if you had seen it yet. :D
AGREED on Janine, and I think you might be right about Hannah. Last we saw, Hannah was actually afraid of June, but she'd have nothing but good memories of Luke. Maybe Moira could help raise Hannah too... a sort of familial commune there. :) I'd forgotten about Nick's wife! We'd heard nothing about kids, so maybe that won't be a complication. I'm also undecided on Aunt Lydia. Once in a while she seems redeemable, but then falls back into Gilead ways. But I'm never sure if her heart of hearts is in it. I might have to rewatch that episode that gave us her backstory. I'd be okay no matter which way they ended her story. And Lawrence... well... he's another slippery one, though he's also a complete opportunist. He's constantly swaying whichever way the wind blows. |
Originally Posted by Austruck (Post 2215416)
I'd forgotten about Nick's wife! We'd heard nothing about kids, so maybe that won't be a complication.
We only know Nick is remarried because he hid his ring from June. Gilead wives are supposed to pop out babies frequently so it wouldn’t surprise me that he has a child. No idea what June’s reaction will be to his remarriage. Much better if he had actually told her. I’m fine with Commander Lawrence coming out ok. He was a super husband to his late wife & he helped June get all those kids out. I would say he’s a survivor & that’s ok. |
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This is one of those shows that ruins the book. Through and through.
It's amazing what studios will waste money on these days. |
Originally Posted by John McClane (Post 2215429)
This is one of those shows that ruins the book. Through and through.
It's amazing what studios will waste money on these days. I'm letting this series be its own thing now that they've completely gone off the rails past the original book. Unsure *what* is in the sequel book and I'll eventually read it, but I'm in no hurry. |
Originally Posted by Austruck (Post 2215436)
I did enjoy the book, but haven't read the recent sequel yet.
I honestly don't get why this show is so popular, but I think the lack of decent programming is largely to blame. I do believe there were political motivations behind the green lighting of it. But geez, it's just undeniably bad. As much as I disliked GoT at least it was written well, cast well, and paced appropriately. Let me know when Junes dies. I'd like to see that episode. |
Originally Posted by John McClane (Post 2215439)
I I honestly don't get why this show is so popular, but I think the lack of decent programming is largely to blame. I do believe there were political motivations behind the green lighting of it. But geez, it's just undeniably bad.
Me, I’ve loved it. |
Originally Posted by Stirchley (Post 2215460)
To each his own. Nobody’s forcing you to watch it.
I just think the biggest issue I take with the show is all the accolades. If it's truly to each their own then the accolades should mean nothing. I mean, most accolades do mean nothing, but from the way this show is talked about there's a serious disconnect. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
Originally Posted by John McClane (Post 2215463)
A civilization that forces young people to watch awful shows and soap operas! :lol:
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Originally Posted by John McClane (Post 2215463)
Now there's a good idea for a show! A civilization that forces young people to watch awful shows and soap operas! :lol:
I just think the biggest issue I take with the show is all the accolades. If it's truly to each their own then the accolades should mean nothing. I mean, most accolades do mean nothing, but from the way this show is talked about there's a serious disconnect. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ It's finally feeling like they've pushed past that, though, and things are on a forward trajectory. |
CONFESSION TIME: I fast-forwarded past the....
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....happy family flashback scenes from the old days as I found they jarred me out of the glorious mire of palpably bleak misogyny and utterly despondent misery. I can score that bog-standard happy sappy bollocks on any telly show, I'm just here to mainline the high-grade misery thank you very much.
Bitterly disappointed in Season 3 though. The main screenhog handmaid was allowed FAR too much leeway with her insulting public displays of brazenly insubordinate language and her generally insolent comportment. WHERE was Aunt Lydia and her magisterial cattle prod to correct these glib displays of public insouciance? WHERE? ANSWER ME. Season 4 and Dear Aunt Lydia administered precious little in the way of corporal punishment and bloodthirsty beatings compared to S1. The slut child should have been made to pay dearly for her impudent transgressions. Savage, savage administrations of punitive justice are the righteous path to salvation, that much is inarguable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFrz7sBWbyw OH, FREDDY. What a glorious grisly denouement for Freddy The Flipper. Next season will surely open with Serena Joy BACK in Gilead where she's a handmaid clutched in the loving, lysolic embrace of dearest, dearest Aunt Lydia.[/color] |
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⬆️ Elisabeth Moss is not fat. Enough with the body shaming of women.
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Originally Posted by Stirchley (Post 2221922)
⬆️ Elisabeth Moss is not fat.
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It’s back for its penultimate series. Two strong episodes in & both directed by Elisabeth Moss. |
Originally Posted by Stirchley (Post 2333409)
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It’s back for its penultimate series. Two strong episodes in & both directed by Elisabeth Moss. |
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I’m enjoying season 5, but this show has got to come to an end. Turns out it won’t end until season 6. Can hardly fathom how they’re gonna drag this out this long.
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Ugh, agreed! I'm enjoying it too, but honestly, I am so sick of June's frowny face in every other scene. I don't think the writers know whether they want her to seem like a psycho or just a mother bear protecting her cubs. Because in the same episode, she waffles back and forth between those two extremes. Several times. And it gets a little less convincing every time.
I honestly assumed this was the last season. |
Originally Posted by Austruck (Post 2337478)
Ugh, agreed! I'm enjoying it too, but honestly, I am so sick of June's frowny face in every other scene. I don't think the writers know whether they want her to seem like a psycho or just a mother bear protecting her cubs. Because in the same episode, she waffles back and forth between those two extremes. Several times. And it gets a little less convincing every time.
I honestly assumed this was the last season. IMO, it would have been better to have 10 episodes or maybe a few more in this season & bring it to a conclusion. It’s obvious that June’s husband has had enough of this ++++. |
Originally Posted by Stirchley (Post 2337486)
Agreed! Fear for your life Serena & stay away from windows!
IMO, it would have been better to have 10 episodes or maybe a few more in this season & bring it to a conclusion. It’s obvious that June’s husband has had enough of this ++++. |
Originally Posted by Austruck (Post 2337489)
After some of the crap June has pulled recently, I'm surprised he's still around at all. :D And that's not even his baby!
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Saint or idiot. You decide. :)
And yes, I prefer Nick too. And of course, we're gonna see June go back inside ONE MORE TIME because clearly she can't get enough of that place. :D I envision her, Hannah, and Nick all escaping together. His new wife? Unsure what will happen to her. She seems too normal. :D |
Originally Posted by Austruck (Post 2337492)
Saint or idiot. You decide. :)
And yes, I prefer Nick too. And of course, we're gonna see June go back inside ONE MORE TIME because clearly she can't get enough of that place. :D I envision her, Hannah, and Nick all escaping together. His new wife? Unsure what will happen to her. She seems too normal. :D |
Originally Posted by Stirchley (Post 2337510)
What’s with the new wife? How come he tells her secrets? (One of the worst scenes was when Eden, Nick’s first wife, was drowned. So scary.)
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Originally Posted by Austruck (Post 2337729)
Yeah, somewhere I seem to have missed when and where Nick decided to confide more in his wife than most commanders do. She seems legit, though, so what's up with that?
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Great episode this week. Finally. Looks like Serena & June are going all Thelma & Louise. @Austruck
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Originally Posted by Stirchley (Post 2339986)
Great episode this week. Finally. Looks like Serena & June are going all Thelma & Louise. @Austruck
Nothing quite like maternal fierceness to whip you back to reality. This duo might be the key to the complete downfall of Gilead... something we are all expecting to see in any sort of series ending. |
Originally Posted by Austruck (Post 2339990)
I kept wondering how Luke and June were going to get out of that bind they were in. But as soon as Serena realized she was going to be treated like little more than a handmaid herself, I think it dawned on her just what women like June have been going through in Gilead. Remember, she wasn't allowed to even READ in Gilead, but then in Toronto was allowed to read, write, and even conduct business as that emissary. Once back in a commander's home, she saw just what would be waiting for her once she gave birth. Somebody was already planning to take that baby from her, I'm sure.
Nothing quite like maternal fierceness to whip you back to reality. This duo might be the key to the complete downfall of Gilead... something we are all expecting to see in any sort of series ending. What about the creepy OB/GYN? Examines Serena’s lower parts & then asks for a date. Looking forward to next week, which never happens. |
Originally Posted by Stirchley (Post 2339995)
Mrs Wheeler is terrifying.
What about the creepy OB/GYN? Examines Serena’s lower parts & then asks for a date. Looking forward to next week, which never happens. I'm also looking forward to next week. Also, I'm pretty sure one of the guards who grabbed Luke said, "Dump him at the border," so I assume they're just gonna, well, dump him at the border and forget about him. That was probably a mistake on their part, long-term. :D |
Originally Posted by Austruck (Post 2340001)
Yeah, that was pretty hilariously creepy. "Wow, look that vajay-jay! Wanna go out to dinner?" Umm... yuck.
I'm also looking forward to next week. Also, I'm pretty sure one of the guards who grabbed Luke said, "Dump him at the border," so I assume they're just gonna, well, dump him at the border and forget about him. That was probably a mistake on their part, long-term. :D |
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