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Thursday Next

09-30-24, 04:20 PM

It's here...

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52 ballots
329 movies
More songs than you can shake a pair of jazz hands at

It's time to give them the old razzledazzle...Welcome to the MoFo Top 100 Musicals Countdown!

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Thursday Next

09-30-24, 04:20 PM

The list:

Near Misses (101-110) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2508730#post2508730)

#100 - Cinderella (1965) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2494414#post2494414)
#99 - The Meaning of Life (1983) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2494415#post2494415)
#98 - tick...tick...BOOM! (2021) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2494566#post2494566)
#97 - Amadeus (1984) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2494568#post2494568)
#96 - The Smiling Lieutenant (1931) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2494737#post2494737)
#95 - Walk the Line (2005) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2494739#post2494739)
#94 - The Prince of Egypt (1998) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2495167#post2495167)
#93 - On the Town (1949) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2495168#post2495168)
#92 - Tommy (1975) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2495464#post2495464)
#91 - Rocketman (2019) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2495467#post2495467)

#90 - West Side Story (2021) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2495795#post2495795)
#89 - Begin Again (2013) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2495796#post2495796)
#88 - Gold Diggers of 1933 (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2496067#post2496067)
#87 - Anastasia (1997) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2496068#post2496068)
#86 - Into the Woods (2014) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2496291#post2496291)
#85 - Gigi (1958) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2496293#post2496293)
#84 - Calamity Jane (1953) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2496540#post2496540)
#83 - The Burden (2017) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2496541#post2496541)
#82 - White Christmas (1954) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2496767#post2496767)
#81- Purple Rain (1984) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2496769#post2496769)

#80 - The Band Wagon (1953) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2496953#post2496953)
#79 - Charlotte's Web (1973) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2496954#post2496954)
#78 - Easter Parade (1948) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2497287#post2497287)
#77 - Funny Girl (1968) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2497288#post2497288)
#76 - 42nd Street (1933) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2497619#post2497619)
#75 - The King and I (1956) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2497620#post2497620)
#74 - Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story (2007) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2497875#post2497875)
#73 - Everyone Says I Love You (1996) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2497894#post2497894)
#72 - Yellow Submarine (1968) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2498149#post2498149)
#71 - Seven Brides for Seven Brothers (1954) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2498149#post2498149)

#70 - O Brother, Where Art Thou? (2000) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2498425#post2498425)
#69 - Gentlemen Prefer Blondes (1953) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2498426#post2498426)
#68 - Moana (2016) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2498723#post2498723)
#67 - A Star Is Born (1954) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2498724#post2498724)
#66 - Sweeney Todd (2007) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2499103#post2499103)
#65 - Duck Soup (1933) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2499103#post2499103)
#64 - 1776 (1972) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2499435#post2499435)
#63 - The Jungle Book (1967) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2499436#post2499436)
#62 - Frozen (2013) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2499816#post2499816)
#61 - Corpse Bride (2005) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2499818#post2499818)

#60 - Annie (1982) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2500184#post2500184)
#59 - Jesus Christ Superstar (1973) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2500185#post2500185)
#58 - Top Hat (1935) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2500643#post2500643)
#57 - The Greatest Showman (2017) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2500645#post2500645)
#56 - Pennies From Heaven (1981) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2501074#post2501074)
#55 - This Is Spinal Tap (1984) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2501075#post2501075)
#54 - South Pacific (1958) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2501369#post2501369)
#53 - Inside Llewyn Davis (2013) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2501370#post2501370)
#52 - Muppet Christmas Carol (1992) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2501762#post2501762)
#51 - The Lure (2015) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2501784#post2501784)

#50 - Oklahoma (1955) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2502215#post2502215)
#49 - The Little Mermaid (1989) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2502216#post2502216)
#48 - Alice In Wonderland (1951) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2502591#post2502591)
#47 - Hair (1979) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2502593#post2502593)
#46 - Stingray Sam (2009) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2502931#post2502931)
#45 - The Muppet Movie (1979) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2502932#post2502932)
#44 - Oliver! (1968) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2503242#post2503242)
#43 - A Star Is Born (2018) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2503243#post2503243)
#42 - An American in Paris (1951) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2503561#post2503561)
#41 - Pink Floyd - The Wall (1982) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2503562#post2503562)

#40 - Sing Street (2016) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2504008#post2504008)
#39 - Nashville (1975) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2504009#post2504009)
#38 - Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1937) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2504317#post2504317)
#37 - Phantom of the Paradise (1974) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2504318#post2504318)
#36 - Les Demoiselles de Rochefort (1967) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2504553#post2504553)
#35 - Fantasia (1940) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2504554#post2504554)
#34 - Les Miserables (2012) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2504804#post2504804)
#33 - Meet Me In St. Louis (1944) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2504805#post2504805)
#32 - Yankee Doodle Dandy (1942) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2504987#post2504987)
#31 - That Thing You Do! (1996) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2504988#post2504988)

#30 - Moulin Rouge! (2001) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2505291#post2505291)
#29 - The Music Man (1962) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2505292#post2505292)
#28 - Labyrinth (1986) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2505688#post2505688)
#27 - South Park: Bigger, Longer and Uncut (1999) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2505688#post2505688)
#26 - Pinocchio (1940) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2505914#post2505914)
#25 - Once (2007) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2505915#post2505915)
#24 - Fiddler On the Roof (1971) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2506224#post2506224)
#23 - A Hard Day's Night (1964) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2506225#post2506225)
#22 - Aladdin (1992) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2506538#post2506538)
#21 - Chicago (2002) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2506539#post2506539)

#20 - Dancer in the Dark (2000) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2506817#post2506817)
#19 - The Blues Brothers (1980) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2506818#post2506818)
#18 - Little Shop of Horrors (1986) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2507075#post2507075)
#17 - All That Jazz (1979) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2507076#post2507076)
#16 - The Nightmare Before Christmas (1993) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2507440#post2507440)
#15 - Hedwig And the Angry Inch (2001) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2507596#post2507596)
#14 - The Rocky Horror Picture Show (1975) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2507905#post2507905)
#13 - La La Land (2016) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2507906#post2507906)
#12 - Beauty and the Beast (1991) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2508380#post2508380)
#11 - The Umbrellas of Cherbourg (1964) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2508381#post2508381)

#10 - My Fair Lady (1964) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2508754#post2508754)
#9 - Grease (1978) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2509225#post2509225)
#8 - Mary Poppins (1964) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2509600#post2509600)
#7 - Cabaret (1972) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2509899#post2509899)
#6 - The Lion King (1994) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2510306#post2510306)

#5 - Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory (1971) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2510601#post2510601)
#4 - West Side Story (1961) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2510900#post2510900)
#3 - The Sound of Music (1965) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2511250#post2511250)
#2 - The Wizard of Oz (1939) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2511569#post2511569)
#1 - Singin' In The Rain (1952) (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2511572#post2511572)

Thursday Next

09-30-24, 04:21 PM

A list of the participants:

Holden Pike
Nope 1172
Torgo
Allaby
Harry Lime
Seanc
Nyctc7
Lamb Eelyak
iluv2viddyfilms
Diehl40
Phoenix 74
Daniel M
Wigram
Dadglumbah
Exiler96
Frightened Inmate No. 2
Hey Fredrick
SawDuck
John-Connor
rauldc14
Gideon58
mrblond
Miss Vicky
John W Constantine
WHITBISSELL!
Robert the List
Wooley
Captain Steel
Steve Freeling
hownos
SpelingError
Fabulous
kgaard
Thief
Thursday Next
honeykid
Yoda
Citizen Rules
cricket
Little Ash
Keyser Corleone
beelzebubble
gbgoodies
sarahf
omnizoa
Funny Face
Diehl40
Wyldesyde19
Stillmellow
Takoma11
MovieMeditation
Siddon
Captain Spaulding

Robert the List

09-30-24, 04:22 PM

Let's go Seb and Mia, let's go
ra ra ra

Thursday Next

09-30-24, 04:22 PM

Thank you all for your patience while Yoda gets things set up behind the scenes. But as you know, half the pleasure is in the antici...pation ;)

https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.26fe1b5449183cfbdb21e775b1e74950?rik=ebs2km1sL3hQzw&riu=http%3a%2f%2f4.bp.blogspot.com%2f-p--Ji8ZCxdw%2fT6ca0geGHUI%2fAAAAAAAABA0%2fp6HHwwDwJcM%2fs1600%2fanticipation.gif&ehk=VAwITltzmpiqRvVgd4ICf0aLkbwN9qnG2TcSUpLmkak%3d&risl=&pid=ImgRaw&r=0

Thief

09-30-24, 04:23 PM

https://24.media.tumblr.com/f2653a5f1d4ee57d841be6ff07d8efe7/tumblr_moc8zkRyZe1svb72go1_400.gif

KeyserCorleone

09-30-24, 04:26 PM

https://media.tenor.com/zvGKVjuYfo0AAAAe/spongebob-singing.png

Thursday Next

09-30-24, 04:28 PM

Just as with the Noir list, a plea not to let the thread get too bogged down in arguments about our different definitions of what is and isn't a musical and appreciate the films that appear. I tried to keep the criteria as open as possible to allow for different interpretations. That said, there is one film on the list that technically doesn't fit the criteria of having songs. However, given the number of people who voted for it in good faith and the logistical difficulties of changing all of their votes, I've decided after much deliberation and consultation with others behind the scenes to let it stand.

Thursday Next

09-30-24, 04:30 PM

Without further ado, I bring you the MoFo tradition of... The One Pointers. There are 18 of them, so bear with me...

kgaard

09-30-24, 04:35 PM

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/60/95/8c/60958c8ad4e85d4835512e9ef15fe6e8.gif

Torgo

09-30-24, 04:37 PM

https://i.postimg.cc/2jLX4xTP/Andorra-01b.gif

Thursday Next

09-30-24, 04:38 PM

One-Pointers

These are the films that were voted for by only one person, in last place on their ballot. I'll leave you to guess who picked them and/or reveal if you picked one yourself. Points if you guess which one was mine.

Part 1...

High School Musical 2

https://media.themoviedb.org/t/p/w94_and_h141_bestv2/la2kiVWDm2vuB4APZDgCCmuBh4K.jpg

Neptune's Daughter
https://media.themoviedb.org/t/p/w94_and_h141_bestv2/d9O19EfkPl9FCmGh6QfklCDcoIv.jpg

Leningrad Cowboys Go America
https://media.themoviedb.org/t/p/w94_and_h141_bestv2/rYI5IAKwqOl6nPcAYL58VzI0EXN.jpg

Red Psalm
https://media.themoviedb.org/t/p/w94_and_h141_bestv2/u6fIA9je4S1jrcieEFQ2d6ZTjE1.jpg

Finian's Rainbow
https://media.themoviedb.org/t/p/w94_and_h141_bestv2/wSOiFy2Lo1B9nonYznofX0P8aZl.jpg

Hallelujah
https://media.themoviedb.org/t/p/w94_and_h141_bestv2/eRRhrNMQkYLq90ZvwDqqMMebZWB.jpg

Thursday Next

09-30-24, 04:44 PM

Part 2

The Gypsy Camp Vanishes Into the Blue
https://media.themoviedb.org/t/p/w94_and_h141_bestv2/1AIhyecxthQuvJNvPC4cKxTxCRp.jpg

Joe's Apartment
https://media.themoviedb.org/t/p/w94_and_h141_bestv2/jITEDqVp2SonHCeC77dI5JaWD1t.jpg

The Magic Flute
https://media.themoviedb.org/t/p/w94_and_h141_bestv2/3N0L2ijwcVjRLJRSXbv3AKT2Vnt.jpg

Shock Treatment
https://media.themoviedb.org/t/p/w94_and_h141_bestv2/4CMMImaU7FnC0zEo4Gq2DQvTUhm.jpg

Commentary The Musical
https://media.themoviedb.org/t/p/w94_and_h141_bestv2/lxv019TY2NTSyUaYpFUYrFdo45k.jpg

High Society
https://media.themoviedb.org/t/p/w94_and_h141_bestv2/4H224rVxChPrYVvR3E0VPV8zdlO.jpg

Robert the List

09-30-24, 04:50 PM

Can I change my vote to include The Commitments?

Thursday Next

09-30-24, 04:51 PM

Part 3

A Week Away
https://media.themoviedb.org/t/p/w94_and_h141_bestv2/htTS07IvYv3rv57ftzNEprefwSq.jpg

Neptune Frost
https://media.themoviedb.org/t/p/w94_and_h141_bestv2/m4FNrrfbWXhw19pJzT7DJMdbloT.jpg

Forbidden Zone
https://media.themoviedb.org/t/p/w94_and_h141_bestv2/shBJRGNek5hkrCnKabcbxa4rWaH.jpg

Rock & Rule
https://media.themoviedb.org/t/p/w94_and_h141_bestv2/aNCN8xBOaEccXS0V93RBdLDSqFh.jpg

The Brave Little Toaster
https://media.themoviedb.org/t/p/w94_and_h141_bestv2/ux31YN45YAc4AyovQqYwoGTulvU.jpg

Muppet Treasure Island
https://media.themoviedb.org/t/p/w94_and_h141_bestv2/gX2TAgjGvk2LJk4Awu0LM7UScfQ.jpg

exiler96

09-30-24, 04:51 PM

I don't even remember my ballot but somehow I feel it's natural, and I'm pretty excited for this anyway.

Thursday Next

09-30-24, 04:53 PM

I don't even remember my ballot but somehow I feel it's natural, and I'm pretty excited for this anyway.

You should have a PM with your ballot in your inbox :)

Yoda

09-30-24, 04:54 PM

Miss Vicky

09-30-24, 05:21 PM

Part 2
Joe's Apartment
https://media.themoviedb.org/t/p/w94_and_h141_bestv2/jITEDqVp2SonHCeC77dI5JaWD1t.jpg

This was mine. It's one of those really stupid movies that I probably shouldn't like but always have anyway. Here's my review from a couple of weeks ago:

https://www.angelfire.com/music6/walteregan/NewMFPics/funktowel.gif

Joe's Apartment
(John Payson, 1996)

In 1996, MTV released their first movie - Joe’s Apartment, a feature length musical adaptation of a short of the same name (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wj3ra_B1PVU) that used to air on the channel. Featuring a hoard of cockroaches that talk, sing, and dance, the movie is stupid, crude, and disgusting… and I’d be lying if I said it didn’t appeal to 15-year-old me.

But I’d also be lying if I said it doesn’t appeal to 43-year-old me. Granted, I’m sure nostalgia has something to do with that, but I actually find the movie to be genuinely funny. I laughed several times which is more than can be said for a lot of comedies. I also liked the musical numbers and the film boasts some surprisingly good CGI. Now of course this is by no means any kind of masterpiece. It is a very stupid movie. But it’s fun. It’s also had a spot in my personal movie collection for many years and it will surely take a spot on my ballot as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru_EiJgTodQ

3.5

Of the other one-pointers, I've seen A Week Away, The Brave Little Toaster, Muppet Treasure Island, The Forbidden Zone, and Rock and Rule. None of them were contenders for my ballot.

Thief

09-30-24, 05:30 PM

rauldc14

09-30-24, 05:37 PM

weeman would not agree with this travesty already!

KeyserCorleone

09-30-24, 05:38 PM

Finian's Rainbow was probably Filmbuff. Only guess I can make. Hard not to guess a fellow Coppola fan might include that, although I haven't seen it.

Robert the List

09-30-24, 05:42 PM

High Society sounded too good for the 1 vote club.
Then I realised it stars Frank Sinatra. The Eddie the Eagle of acting.

John W Constantine

09-30-24, 05:48 PM

Megalopolis or Jack, who sung it better?

John-Connor

09-30-24, 06:00 PM

The Brave Little Toaster
https://media.themoviedb.org/t/p/w94_and_h141_bestv2/ux31YN45YAc4AyovQqYwoGTulvU.jpg
rauldc.. :D

Muppet Treasure Island
https://media.themoviedb.org/t/p/w94_and_h141_bestv2/gX2TAgjGvk2LJk4Awu0LM7UScfQ.jpg
Can’t believe I’ve never seen/heard about this one ^ looks like a musical I could like/love. Watchlisted, gbgoodies?

Finian's Rainbow
https://media.themoviedb.org/t/p/w94_and_h141_bestv2/wSOiFy2Lo1B9nonYznofX0P8aZl.jpg
Watchlisted, my initial guess was KeyserCorleone but he hasn't seen it, so no idea..

Neptune's Daughter
https://media.themoviedb.org/t/p/w94_and_h141_bestv2/d9O19EfkPl9FCmGh6QfklCDcoIv.jpg
Forgot about this one ^, impressive performance by Esther Williams and memorable song: Baby, It's Cold Outside! My guess: CitizenRules?

Wyldesyde19

09-30-24, 06:06 PM

Finian's Rainbow was probably Filmbuff. Only guess I can make. Hard not to guess a fellow Coppola fan might include that, although I haven't seen it.
While I haven’t seen it yet, I’ve read that Finian’s Rainbow (Ebert and The Coen Brothers for example) is actually quite good. It was, along with The Rain People films that showed that FFC was clearly in line for better things.

Gideon58

09-30-24, 06:06 PM

I love Finian's Rainbow I even appeared in a dinner theater production of it. Fun show...fantastic score, which pretty much came to the screen intact.

KeyserCorleone

09-30-24, 06:08 PM

Huh. Might have to check it out then.

Wyldesyde19

09-30-24, 06:09 PM

High Society sounded too good for the 1 vote club.
Then I realised it stars Frank Sinatra. The Eddie the Eagle of acting.
Sinatra had somegood films where he shows he was clearly talented, but generally, yeah, it’s isn’t his musicals. Think more The Manchurian Candidate or The Man with the Golden Arm and less Guys and Dolls (which I’m sure will make an appearance here).

Miss Vicky

09-30-24, 06:10 PM

Oh and I'm guessing rauldc14 for The Brave Little Toaster, Allaby for A Week Away and stillmellow for Muppet Treasure Island.

Allaby

09-30-24, 06:39 PM

Oh and I'm guessing rauldc14 for The Brave Little Toaster, Allaby for A Week Away and stillmellow for Muppet Treasure Island.

You are correct on mine.

cricket

09-30-24, 06:43 PM

I've seen Red Psalm, The Brave Little Toaster, and maybe High Society. No votes

Citizen Rules

09-30-24, 06:51 PM

...Forgot about this one ^, impressive performance by Esther Williams and memorable song: Baby, It's Cold Outside! My guess: CitizenRules?Good guess, I've seen it, Esther Williams is always entertaining in my book. But no, it didn't make my ballot.

Gideon58

09-30-24, 06:57 PM

My review of Neptune's Daughter:

https://www.movieforums.com/reviews/2099064-neptunes_daughter.html

stillmellow

09-30-24, 07:26 PM

stillmellow for Muppet Treasure Island.

Congratulations, you already know be better than half my relatives. :D

stillmellow

09-30-24, 07:33 PM

Yeah, half the songs are pretty bland, but good Lord does that opening song slap hard.

https://youtu.be/RisL9l8HzmM?si=oC12EzODvA466YfY

Robert the List

09-30-24, 07:34 PM

I was just wondering what the musical with no songs is.
Almost certainly not this one, but I do think that Rebel Without A Cause* would have made a great musical.

*which of course was paid homage by the best musical of all time

Miss Vicky

09-30-24, 07:46 PM

Robert the List

09-30-24, 07:54 PM

My guess is Fantasia.
Yeah good shout. Could well be.

rauldc14

09-30-24, 08:00 PM

Of course Toaster was mine. I originally had it around 21 then I realized nobody else would vote for it so it needed some recognition.

Robert the List

09-30-24, 08:08 PM

I must watch Fantasia actually. I'd forgotten how beautiful it is (although the animation in the dinosaur scenes is awful even for 1940).
Tbh to me that's more of a musical than something like (ahem) the commitments (etc).

MovieMeditation

09-30-24, 08:10 PM

If you just take a wild guess, you probably won’t get mine…

But maybe you can work this out, if you bet on it.

KeyserCorleone

09-30-24, 08:17 PM

Of course Toaster was mine. I originally had it around 21 then I realized nobody else would vote for it so it needed some recognition.

I saw a little of it as a baby, but I was old enough to know that I had started it in the middle of the movie so I never counted it as seen. Of course, I don't know if the original or one of the sequels was the one with a baby, so I don't know which of the three it was.

But anthropomorphized household appliances were already perfected with Beauty and the Beast so I never got interested in it.

stillmellow

09-30-24, 08:53 PM

Oh and I'm guessing rauldc14 for The Brave Little Toaster, Allaby for A Week Away and stillmellow for Muppet Treasure Island.

Dang! 3 for 3

LAMb EELYAK

09-30-24, 09:17 PM

Oh, hey, a new countdown!

Part of me wishes I had voted for Trap, but one of the one-pointers is mine. It might be possible to figure out which one without knowing me too well.

Wooley

09-30-24, 09:38 PM

If we have a review of our one-pointer, do we post it? I don't remember how this works.

Citizen Rules

09-30-24, 09:41 PM

If we have a review of our one-pointer, do we post it? I don't remember how this works.Go for it, it's cool.

Wooley

09-30-24, 10:03 PM

Go for it, it's cool.

You are too kind...

https://i.imgur.com/KMg1Jhs.jpg?1

Here is one of my favorite films from my middle teenage years... that I have seen ONCE in the last 30 years. In 2005. How would it hold up?
I loved it.
This was so fun, I actually backed it up several times to watch scenes again and then when it was over I went back and watched the climax twice more.
So what the hell is it?
Well, it's a Canadian, Bakshi-esque animated film about an aging Rock superstar in a post-apocalyptic world populated by anthropomorphic animals, searching for the voice that will help him raise a demon and rule the World.
The Rock-star, the villain of our story, is a sort of combination of David Bowie, Iggy Pop, and The Grinch, name of Mok...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJa0Zv5gHSU

... and the Heroine, possessor of the magic voice, is Angel (seen here with demons)...

https://i.imgur.com/cgizAbh.jpg

... an aspiring singer in a cut-rate band with a selfish ******* leader, Omar.

But man, is this film fun. The Bakshi influence is obvious but there's also some other, edgier animation in parts, as well as some really great imagery at times...

https://i.imgur.com/5zihDdJ.jpg?1

Not to mention, Mok is voiced, in song, by both Lou Reed (in the song above and another) and Iggy Pop, Angel by Debbie Harry (singing the haunting and triumphant "Send Love Through"), and Omar by Cheap Trick's Robin Zander. The songs, in general, are quite memorable.
That's a lot of entertainment for a few bucks.
Anyway, this film delivered for me in a big way. The nostalgia factor was so great that I actually started crying the first time Angel sang her song. No joke. But it also struck me how much better the whole production is than I expected, nostalgia aside. Imagine if one of Bakshi's better films actually had a cogent narrative that flowed and good songs by those superstars I've already mentioned and you have Rock & Rule.
Highly recommended for people who like this sort of thing.

Wooley

09-30-24, 10:07 PM

I would also like to mention that I had two movies I hated to choose between for my one-pointer... and someone else chose the one I let go of! I'm happy as can be.

Citizen Rules

09-30-24, 10:11 PM

Wooley

09-30-24, 10:21 PM

I was around and going to movies when Rock & Rule came out in 1983 but damned if I remember it and it sounds like something I would've thought was cool. I was a big fan of Cheap Trick and seen them in I think 1984, odd that I never heard of this before. I wonder if it didn't get a big release in the states?

It was on HBO for a while when I was a young and I taped it. Got it on DVD back in 2005. There was actually a very good full print of it on YouTube for a while but they took it down last year. :mad:

Siddon

09-30-24, 10:23 PM

Part 2

The Magic Flute
https://media.themoviedb.org/t/p/w94_and_h141_bestv2/3N0L2ijwcVjRLJRSXbv3AKT2Vnt.jpg

Yeah...I screwed up I wasn't aware their was a second Magic Flute this is the one that I meant to vote for at 14. Doubt those points put it on the ranking but yeah this is one of my favorite musicals from Bergman.

Siddon

09-30-24, 10:34 PM

My one pointer...Leningrad Cowboys Go America.

https://cdn.posteritati.com/posters/000/000/063/388/leningrad-cowboys-go-america-md-web.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWPLs85liR4

Russia falls and a band decides to come to America learn Rock N Roll and make it big. The film combines the deadest of deadpan humor with great live music of classics. The film is actually the start of a trilogy of films as the band ended up coming into existence for real and now tours.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbnFxbaiHF0

kgaard

09-30-24, 10:36 PM

I don't want to cause trouble so early, but if The Muppet Christmas Carol is stillmellow's one-pointer... then it's not a one-pointer, if you follow me.

kgaard

09-30-24, 10:38 PM

My one pointer...Leningrad Cowboys Go America.

Russia falls and a band decides to come to America learn Rock N Roll and make it big. The film combines the deadest of deadpan humor with great live music of classics. The film is actually the start of a trilogy of films as the band ended up coming into existence for real and now tours.

This is a great movie. I'm a little sorry I didn't vote for it, but it deserves this recognition.

Miss Vicky

09-30-24, 10:53 PM

I don't want to cause trouble so early, but if The Muppet Christmas Carol is stillmellow's one-pointer... then it's not a one-pointer, if you follow me.
It’s not the Christmas Carol, it’s Treasure Island.

Thief

10-01-24, 12:24 AM

I've seen two – maybe three – of the one-pointers; Joe's Apartment, (maybe?) Muppet Treasure Island, and mine.

SpelingError

10-01-24, 12:28 AM

From the one-pointers, I've only seen Red Psalm, Hallelujah, and High Society.

Allaby

10-01-24, 01:27 AM

Out of the one pointers, I have seen: Neptune's Daughter, Leningrad Cowboys Go America, Hallelujah, A Week Away (mine), Forbidden Zone, The Brave Little Toaster, and Muppet Treasure Island.

Robert the List

10-01-24, 01:48 AM

I don't want to cause trouble so early, but if The Muppet Christmas Carol is stillmellow's one-pointer... then it's not a one-pointer, if you follow me.
I must be a bad person, because this made me laugh.
In fact I actually sniggered slightly, then lolled.

gbgoodies

10-01-24, 02:36 AM

Can’t believe I’ve never seen/heard about this one ^ looks like a musical I could like/love. Watchlisted, gbgoodies?

Muppet Treasure Island is a fun movie, but it wasn't my one-pointer. If a Muppets movie made my list, it would be The Muppet Movie (1979).

gbgoodies

10-01-24, 02:42 AM

I have only seen these one pointers: High School Musical 2, Neptune's Daughter, Finian's Rainbow, High Society, A Week Away, The Brave Little Toaster, and Muppet Treasure Island.

dadgumblah

10-01-24, 05:17 AM

It was me who picked Neptune's Daughter in my #25 slot. I didn't purposefully aim for it to be a 1-pointer, and I never do that on a countdown. But it happened, my first I believe.

So far:
#25. Neptune's Daughter

Iroquois

10-01-24, 05:42 AM

yeah i didn't get around to voting in this after all. so it goes. take my comments on what does crack the list with a grain of salt, i guess.

anyway, the one-pointers i've seen:

leningrad cowboys go america - good film, a musical as only kaurismaki could do one.

red psalm - one of those films that i thought was worth a 4/5 but seem to have forgotten about completely before this reminded me. i would definitely watch it a second time either way.

joe's apartment - like the idea, but i ultimately cannot sanction its buffoonery.

the magic flute - the bergman one? that's the only one i know i've seen, which i thought was alright.

high society - reviewed it on here forever ago, thought it was mid.

PHOENIX74

10-01-24, 07:13 AM

Little Ash

10-01-24, 08:51 AM

Wow - so many of the 1-pointers I haven't seen. My pick was Shock Treatment - I know it's not a very good movie, and I can pick out all it's faults, but I love it regardless. I'm a huge Jessica Harper fan, and admire that something truly different was tried when it came to following up The Rocky Horror Picture Show. It goes down in flames, but glorious flames - I'd yearned to see it for so long by the time I finally found a video shop that stocked it, and from there on I've probably watched it 100 times. What can I say - I was young when I started.

Aside from mine, the only other 1-pointer I've seen is High Society.

I've put Rock & Rule in my watchlist - that looks like something I'll enjoy one hell of a lot!

I definitely do have a desire to see Shock Treatment. The opportunity has never easily presented itself though.

Little Ash

10-01-24, 08:53 AM

mrblond

10-01-24, 09:17 AM

Part 2
The Gypsy Camp Vanishes Into the Blue
https://media.themoviedb.org/t/p/w94_and_h141_bestv2/1AIhyecxthQuvJNvPC4cKxTxCRp.jpg

That's my #25.
aka Queen of the Gypsies, original title: Табор уходит в небо (1975)

Written and Directed by Emil Loteanu

Soviet musical drama romance, a colourful presentation of the gipsy minority folklore and life in the early 20th century somewhere in-between the empires of Austria-Hungary and Russia.
Horse thieves, knives, variety of passions, jealousy... everything gypsies.
The film was popular during my early school-time.

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Gideon58

10-01-24, 09:36 AM

What’s the difference between this thread and the one where we submitted our top 25 lists?

seanc

10-01-24, 09:49 AM

What’s the difference between this thread and the one where we submitted our top 25 lists?

The list will begin to be revealed here today

Gideon58

10-01-24, 10:02 AM

Thanks

Thief

10-01-24, 10:57 AM

For what it's worth, Hallelujah was my one-pointer. I will post a review I wrote a while ago here. The thing is that even though my rating might seem a bit low for it to make my list, the film really stuck with me (I would probably bump the rating a bit now), plus it has cultural significance as far as African-Americans and musicals go.

Allaby

10-01-24, 11:01 AM

Thief

10-01-24, 11:02 AM

HALLELUJAH
(1929, Vidor)

https://i.imgur.com/DZeKtN5.jpeg

"I don't want to give in... but he just keeps on a-clawing and a-pulling after me all the time ... Just won't let me be."

The struggle between "flesh and spirit" is perhaps as old as mankind. In Matthew 26:41, Jesus urges his apostles to "watch and pray so that you will not fall into temptation. The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak." That conflict is somewhat transposed to the early years of the 20th Century in King Vidor's groundbreaking musical.

Hallelujah follows Zeke (Daniel L. Haynes), a young cotton picker who works along with his poor family. When he and his brother Spunk (Everett McGarrity) go to town to sell their crops, Zeke finds himself lured by the charms of Chick (Nina Mae McKinney), a seductive con artist who ends up getting Zeke in over his head. Even when Zeke decides to change his ways to become a minister, Chick continues to harass and seduce him.

This is the second film I watch as part of the TCM course "Mad About Musicals", and there are a couple of interesting things about it. First, director and co-writer King Vidor put it upon himself to make a film to show "the Southern Negro as he is". To do this, he used a group of non-professional black actors, most of which never had acted before. This brings up one of the first impressive things about the film. Considering the experience of the actors, the performances are quite solid, with McKinney in particular being the standout.

Most of the songs and dances portrayed are quite lively and, according to Vidor, taken from his own experiences while living in the South. Haynes' first rendition of "Waiting at the End of the Road" is beautiful, and McKinney's bar room "Swanee Shuffle" is great. There are also several musical bits after Zeke becomes a minister which I've read are quite faithful to the music of the times. Haynes' performance during this act is a bit too exaggerated for my tastes, but when one compares it to how preachers usually speak to the audiences, it's not that far out.

Unfortunately, Vidor and the script are more focused on taking Zeke from point A to point B than they are in the journey. Zeke's inner spiritual struggle takes a backseat as Vidor focuses on just speeding through the events and taking him where he wanted him to be in the end, rather than show us the whole journey. As a result, the events of the last act feel rushed and abbreviated. Zeke's relationship with Missy Rose (Victoria Spivey) is also underdeveloped. Still, there is a particularly unsettling chase towards the end that seemed like it was taken from another film.

Overall, I enjoyed this film more than I did The Broadway Melody, another musical that ended up winning the Oscar that year. There's a beauty in the rawness of the film, and the more accessible nature of the characters than there was in the Broadway stars of that other musical. What the film lacks in polish, it more than makes up for in spirit.

Grade: 2.5

kgaard

10-01-24, 11:10 AM

It’s not the Christmas Carol, it’s Treasure Island.

Yep, how did I miss that?

My #25 is no longer a secret, I guess.

Citizen Rules

10-01-24, 01:44 PM

I love Finian's Rainbow I even appeared in a dinner theater production of it. Fun show...fantastic score, which pretty much came to the screen intact.Gideon I've heard you talk about performing on stage before, I think that's really cool. Did you do this for a living? Were you an actor or dancer? Did you perform in a number of musicals? I like to hear more about your experience.

Gideon58

10-01-24, 01:54 PM

There was a time where I really wanted to do it for a living. I spent a year in New York doing nothing but going to auditions. I did get cast in one off-Broadway workshop trying to get to Broadway, but it never did. It was also down to me and one other guy for the lead in a musical called The Tap Dance Kid, but they went with the other guy. His name was Alfonso Ribeiro . I was crushed until the show closed after like 12 performances. I started doing theater in high school, I've done three different productions of Guys and Dolls, Fiddler on the Roof, and My Fair Lady. I've also done The Wiz, Ain't Misbehavin, The Pajama Game, Godspell, and Jesus Christ Superstar...did that one twice too.

Citizen Rules

10-01-24, 02:18 PM

There was a time where I really wanted to do it for a living. I spent a year in New York doing nothing but going to auditions. I did get cast in one off-Broadway workshop trying to get to Broadway, but it never did. It was also down to me and one other guy for the lead in a musical called The Tap Dance Kid, but they went with the other guy. His name was Alfonso Ribeiro . I was crushed until the show closed after like 12 performances. I stated doing theater in high school, I've done three different productions of Guys and Dolls, Fiddler on the Roof, and My Fair Lady. I've also done The Wiz, Ain't Misbehavin, The Pajama Game, Godspell, and Jesus Christ Superstar...did that one twice too.So you were an actor and did you dance too?

Holden Pike

10-01-24, 02:24 PM

My #25 did not make the list, which means at least one of you voted for it, too! Not holding out too much hope it received enough support to make the actual countdown, but I am glad somebody else appreciates it.

The only of the revealed One-Pointers that I had on my shortlist was...

101222

I'm a sucker for road movies, flicks about bands, and I love Aki Kaurismäki so of course I adore Leningrad Cowboys Go America. I didn't quite make room for it on my ballot, but I am glad at least it got highlighted a bit this way. Kaurismäki's deadpan humor juxtaposed with the Leningrad Cowboys' outrageous aesthetic adds up to an off-kilter rock-and-roll fish-out-of-water tale.

Gideon58

10-01-24, 02:42 PM

I took ballet, tap, and jazz in college, have basic skills in all three, but I'm not really a dancer. I do sing.

Holden Pike

10-01-24, 02:45 PM

My guess for the musical without a song is One From the Heart. I watched it recently and recall there being a single dance number in it, but I don't recall if there was a song or not though (Natasha Kinski did a little intro thing). I watched it partly for this countdown, but then didn't consider it for my ballot because of the criteria.
But that's just my guess.
Coppola's One from the Heart has an entire soundtrack full of songs, performed by Tom Waits and Crystal Gayle. But none of the characters ever "sings them".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngDLARtxU0U

Citizen Rules

10-01-24, 03:21 PM

I took ballet, tap, and jazz college, have basic skills in all three, but I'm not really dancer. I do sing.Oh, I always thought you had been an inspiring dancer, I didn't know you sang. Very cool.

Wooley

10-01-24, 03:23 PM

Wow - so many of the 1-pointers I haven't seen. My pick was Shock Treatment - I know it's not a very good movie, and I can pick out all it's faults, but I love it regardless. I'm a huge Jessica Harper fan, and admire that something truly different was tried when it came to following up The Rocky Horror Picture Show. It goes down in flames, but glorious flames - I'd yearned to see it for so long by the time I finally found a video shop that stocked it, and from there on I've probably watched it 100 times. What can I say - I was young when I started.

I've put Rock & Rule in my watchlist - that looks like something I'll enjoy one hell of a lot!

Well, the funny thing is that Shock Treatment was the other movie that I was choosing between it and Rock & Rule. I was waiting to see who had picked it. Glad I chose R&R so that ST could make it but I'm also really glad somebody chose ST. So, yeah, you may like R&R.

By the way, my third one-pointer choice, which I had to cut down to the two above and then finally the one I picked, was Forbidden Zone. So whoever picked that, cheers!

Little Ash

10-01-24, 05:39 PM

Coppola's One from the Heart has an entire soundtrack full of songs, performed by Tom Waits and Crystal Gayle. But none of the characters ever "sings them".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngDLARtxU0U

Well, yes. Given the countdown, I implied the clause of, songs that someone in the movie sings.

Robert the List

10-01-24, 06:01 PM

WHAT DO WE WANT? THE COUNTDOWN
WHEN DO WE WANT IT? NOW

WHAT DO WE WANT? THE COUNTDOWN
WHEN DO WE WANT IT? NOW

WHAT DO WE WANT? THE COUNTDOWN
WHEN DO WE WANT IT? NOW

rauldc14

10-01-24, 07:34 PM

Maybe tomorrow

Miss Vicky

10-01-24, 08:35 PM

As much as I like most things about the new system, I definitely miss the days when countdowns would start a day or two after the voting deadline.

Little Ash

10-01-24, 08:35 PM

Anyhow, one of the 1 pointers is mine. I'm just waiting to see if/when someone links it up with me.

Gideon58

10-01-24, 10:56 PM

Well, yes. Given the countdown, I implied the clause of, songs that someone in the movie sings.

I really liked One From The Heart

Citizen Rules

10-01-24, 10:58 PM

None of the classical era musicals that made the 1 pointer list were mine. But they could've been:p

PHOENIX74

10-01-24, 11:50 PM

Well, the funny thing is that Shock Treatment was the other movie that I was choosing between it and Rock & Rule. I was waiting to see who had picked it. Glad I chose R&R so that ST could make it but I'm also really glad somebody chose ST. So, yeah, you may like R&R.

By the way, my third one-pointer choice, which I had to cut down to the two above and then finally the one I picked, was Forbidden Zone. So whoever picked that, cheers!

The thought went through my head that this might have been your other potential pick. I'll have to do a Shock Treatment deep dive one day - it's one of those special movies I'd have one hell of a lot to say about. Looks like I should check out Forbidden Zone as well - that looks right up my alley. How have I never heard of all of these musical treasures?

Little Ash

10-02-24, 10:48 AM

I really liked One From The Heart

I'm just saying, it's not a musical in the sense it doesn't have music that characters in the movie sing (despite me having the impression for IDK how long, that it was classified as a musical).

Gideon58

10-02-24, 10:51 AM

I know exactly what you’re talking about and I totally agree with you. Sometimes the music takes over the narrative for the characters

Thief

10-02-24, 03:06 PM

Was there a date given to start things up? Just asking out of curiosity, not to rush anything.

Yoda

10-02-24, 03:09 PM

Hopefully/finally finishing my end of things tonight. So maybe in a couple of days? Don't wanna rush Thursday either, better to take a bit longer than to start and then immediately have to re-do or re-check something, of course.

Robert the List

10-02-24, 03:13 PM

That's all very well and good, but whilst it's bad enough for us, imagine how Ryan Gosling and Emma/Emily Stone are feeling at the moment.

Thief

10-02-24, 03:13 PM

Perfect! In the meantime, here's the "Swanee Shuffle" bit from my one-pointer Hallelujah (1929)!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLcNYv5EX3Q

Thursday Next

10-02-24, 04:39 PM

I'm ready to go as soon as Yoda gives the go-ahead.

A guessing game while you wait:

1. Which film will be top and how many points will it have?
2. Which actor or actress will have the most films in the top 100?
3. Which decade will have the most films in the top 100?
4. Which will be the oldest and most recent films to appear?
5. Which directors will appear more than once?
6. Which punctuation mark appears the most in the titles - exclamation mark or colon?
7. How many of the top 100 are animated?
8. Several of the titles contain numbers, can you guess what the numbers are?

mrblond

10-02-24, 04:44 PM

That delay is hardly acceptable. I think, it is even worse than the Comedy Countdown situation, as far as I remember. :tsk:

John-Connor

10-02-24, 04:54 PM

1. Which film will be top and how many points will it have?
Grease

2. Which actor or actress will have the most films in the top 100?
Gene Kelly

3. Which decade will have the most films in the top 100?
60s

4. Which will be the oldest and most recent films to appear?
CODA 2021

7. How many of the top 100 are animated?
41

Robert the List

10-02-24, 05:31 PM

1. Which film will be top and how many points will it have?
La La Land

2. Which actor or actress will have the most films in the top 100?
Fred Astaire or Judy Garland

3. Which decade will have the most films in the top 100?
40s

4. Which will be the oldest and most recent films to appear?
The Gay Divorcee
CODA

7. How many of the top 100 are animated?
25

Citizen Rules

10-02-24, 06:12 PM

I asked Chat GPT, let's see how smart it is.

1. Which film will be top and how many points will it have?
ChatGPT predicts: La La Land
I predict: Singin' in the Rain

2. Which actor or actress will have the most films in the top 100?
ChatGPT predicts: Gene Kelly and Judy Garland
I predict: Gene Kelly and Judy Garland

3. Which decade will have the most films in the top 100?
Chat GPT predicts: The 1970s
I predict: The 1950s

4. Which will be the oldest and most recent films to appear?
Chat GPT predicts: The Jazz Singer (1927) and La La Land (2016)
I predict: 42nd Street (1933) and A Star is Born (2018)

5. Which directors will appear more than once?
Chat GPT predicts: Busby Berkeley, Vincente Minnelli and Damien Chazelle
I predict: Vincente Minnelli and Damien Chazelle

6. Which punctuation mark appears the most in the titles - exclamation mark or colon?
ChatGPT predicts: colons.
I predict: exclamation points, with my avatar how could I not?

7. How many of the top 100 are animated?
Chat GPT predicts: 10 to 15
I predict: 20

8. Several of the titles contain numbers, can you guess what the numbers are?
Chat GPT predicts: "Seven Brides for Seven Brothers," "Fame," and "Chicago" (which references the year). Other common titles include "The 5,000 Fingers of Dr. T."
I predict: 42 and 1933

Gideon58

10-03-24, 10:33 AM

While I haven’t seen it yet, I’ve read that Finian’s Rainbow (Ebert and The Coen Brothers for example) is actually quite good. It was, along with The Rain People films that showed that FFC was clearly in line for better things.

It’s a great film a little out of Copolla’s comfort zone but he does a good job

beelzebubble

10-03-24, 10:47 AM

Thief

10-03-24, 10:48 AM

A guessing game while you wait:

1. Which film will be top and how many points will it have?
2. Which actor or actress will have the most films in the top 100?
3. Which decade will have the most films in the top 100?
4. Which will be the oldest and most recent films to appear?
5. Which directors will appear more than once?
6. Which punctuation mark appears the most in the titles - exclamation mark or colon?
7. How many of the top 100 are animated?
8. Several of the titles contain numbers, can you guess what the numbers are?

1. Singin' in the Rain
2. Gene Kelly or Judy Garland
3. 1950s
4. Oldest: The Jazz Singer (1927) or Top Hat (1935), Recent: tick, tick... BOOM! (2021)
5. Vincente Minnelli, Baz Luhrmann, Stanley Donen
6. Exclamation point!
7. 10 or 12
8. 8 Mile? Three Caballeros?

John W Constantine

10-03-24, 03:50 PM

Maybe tomorrow.

Robert the List

10-03-24, 03:52 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2q9_ZEtuTR8

Holden Pike

10-03-24, 03:56 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PtdpI-D6mM

Yoda

10-03-24, 03:57 PM

Can't speak for Thursday, but fairly likely! The tech stuff looks about done and there's a working mockup. I'll probably spend some time improving it next week, but I can do that marginally as the countdown is going on; it should be good enough to get started with.

At most, would just need to do a quick test and then we're probably good.

Thursday Next

10-03-24, 05:32 PM

One day more ...

stillmellow

10-03-24, 07:04 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PtdpI-D6mM

The song best known for its use in the classic family film, Deadpool 2.

Siddon

10-04-24, 12:38 AM

1. Which film will be top and how many points will it have? - West Side Story
2. Which actor or actress will have the most films in the top 100? Julie Andrews
3. Which decade will have the most films in the top 100? 1990's thanks to Disney Animation.
4. Which will be the oldest and most recent films to appear? Top Hat (1935), Encanto (2021)
5. Which directors will appear more than once? Wolfgang Reitherman, Stanley Dolan,
6. Which punctuation mark appears the most in the titles - exclamation mark or colon? !
7. How many of the top 100 are animated? 23
8. Several of the titles contain numbers, can you guess what the numbers are? Seven, 42nd, 8

Holden Pike

10-04-24, 01:31 AM

1. Which film will be top and how many points will it have?
Singin' in the Rain (377 points)

2. Which actor or actress will have the most films in the top 100?
Fred Astaire

3. Which decade will have the most films in the top 100?
1950s

4. Which will be the oldest and most recent films to appear?
Top Hat and CODA

5. Which directors will appear more than once?
Stanley Donen, Robert Wise, Vincente Minnelli, Gene Kelly, Michael Curtiz, Bob Fosse, George Cukor, Richard Lester, Joshua Logan, Norman Jewison

6. Which punctuation mark appears the most in the titles - exclamation mark or colon?
Exclamation Point!

7. How many of the top 100 are animated?
31

8. Several of the titles contain numbers, can you guess what the numbers are?
Two, Seven, Eight, Forty-Two

Robert the List

10-04-24, 06:03 AM

I didn't answer the directors question, but I'd be surprised if Jacques Demy doesn't have more than 1!

Daniel M

10-04-24, 06:55 AM

My one pointer...Leningrad Cowboys Go America.

I love Kaurismaki but I am yet to get round to this one, your post has certainly bumped it up my watchlist.

Citizen Rules

10-04-24, 12:16 PM

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse4.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.cDox7Xfr_xiWVZiRg2-cbQHaDG%26pid%3DApi&f=1&ipt=3b72382c9fc6b3d63ff9709f61488db30bf585cd39f0abb75561b577fb4fea44&ipo=images

Last night I watched Finian's Rainbow for the first time. Francis Ford Coppola did amazing cinematography on the film. His choice of shooting locations really added to a uniquely 'alternative universe' type feeling to the film. Likewise his studio bound sets are creatively three dimensional which Coppola uses to give spacial movement in a two dimensional media (film). Impressive.

Coppola's opening sequence is stunning with Fred Astaire and Petula Clark (father and daughter) wondering the American countryside looking for the mythical Rainbow Valley, which we find out is located in the deep south. The deep south plays an intricate part in the story as the film is about racism and bigotry which was ripe in 1968 and on the forefront of people's minds and news headlines.

As much as I appreciated the artistry of the film and it's ideas, the scrip which was adapted by E. Y. Harburg and Fred Saidy from their 1947 stage musical of the same name, doesn't give the characters enough screen time to develop. I felt I hardly knew any of them and there forth didn't care about them. The one exception was British actor & entertainer Tommy Steele who plays a full sized leprechaun who slowly becomes mortal and falls in love with 'silent Susan' a mute girl who dances to communicate with people. There were some funny parts in the film and some good songs but the story never gelled so ultimately I didn't care for this.

Thief

10-04-24, 02:51 PM

This preamble to our countdown is brought to you by Hoover vacuums!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDlyC-E6-I8

Robert the List

10-04-24, 02:54 PM

The bit I don't get is

52 ballots

The tech stuff looks about done and there's a working mockup.

Thursday Next

10-04-24, 03:20 PM

Time zone issues I'm afraid! Yoda needs to be around to check that the code doesn't break the internet (or something, I don't know, I'm a luddite...)

Robert the List

10-04-24, 03:30 PM

I was thinking maybe it was being presented live via satellite from the Moon or something, and you were still building the rocket!

Sounds like I had the wrong end of the stick though!

Anyway, never mind, as long as nobody's about to die at any moment I don't suppose it makes any difference, and if they are they'd probably have higher priorities anyway.

Am sure it will be good when it gets here!!

Gideon58

10-04-24, 03:38 PM

John W Constantine

10-04-24, 03:52 PM

Maybe tomorrow.

John-Connor

10-04-24, 04:31 PM

Before these mofos turn into angry mobs..:p
Why not take a guess at today's/tomorrow's reveals..?

100. Fun in Acapulco (1963)
099. Fame (1980)

Thursday Next

10-04-24, 04:35 PM

Yes, great idea, have a guess at the first two.

Allaby

10-04-24, 04:41 PM

My guesses:

100. Stingray Sam (2009)
99. Curly Top (1935)

rauldc14

10-04-24, 05:16 PM

100. Pocahontas
99. Bedknobs and Broomsticks

Aka no fricken idea

Thursday Next

10-04-24, 06:25 PM

2lists35pointsCinderella (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/25892-cinderella.html)Director
Charles S. Dubin, 1965

Starring
Lesley Ann Warren, Stuart Damon, Ginger Rogers, Walter Pidgeon

Thursday Next

10-04-24, 06:26 PM

3lists35pointsThe Meaning of Life (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/4543-the-meaning-of-life.html)Director
Terry Jones, 1983

Starring
Terry Gilliam, Graham Chapman, John Cleese, Eric Idle

Thursday Next

10-04-24, 06:28 PM

OK, 100 and 99 posted but possibly some teething problems, bear with me...

ETA: fixed, thanks Yoda. I was trigger happy with the posting for a minute there...

Robert the List

10-04-24, 06:41 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5pESPQpXxE

Allaby

10-04-24, 06:47 PM

I've seen Cinderella and liked the costumes and some of the songs, but was mixed on some of the performances. I rated it a 6/10. I haven't seen The Meaning of Life because I have heard it had some really icky/gross parts.

Miss Vicky

10-04-24, 06:51 PM

I can never remember if I've actually seen The Meaning of Life. My dad and my brother were fans of Monty Python when I was a kid and I well remember The Holy Grail playing a lot on the family TV, but I'm not sure if The Meaning of Life was ever in rotation. However, I'm definitely not a fan of Monty Python so I doubt it's my kind of movie.

I definitely haven't seen that version of Cinderella, but I can still say with absolutely certainty that I would not like it.

I am relieved though that the points threshold for making the countdown proper isn't super high. That gives me a lot of hope for a certain little movie that I campaigned for.

Little Ash

10-04-24, 07:02 PM

FYI - not showing up on mobile right now. I switched over to desktop view on my phone to see them. I recall that was an issue with one of the past countdowns.
Teething problems/etc.

kgaard

10-04-24, 07:04 PM

I haven't seen that version of Cinderella. The Meaning of Life is my least favorite Python film, a big drop-off from Holy Grail and Life of Brian. I haven't seen it in a dog's age, though.

Little Ash

10-04-24, 07:06 PM

I haven't seen that version of Cinderella.

It didn't cross my mind to consider Meaning of Life. I haven't seen it in a long time and wasn't registered in my brain as a musical, but I guess it does have a fair number of musical numbers (I guess it's also hard to think of that classification on skit-based movies and some of the skits have musical numbers in them and some of them don't).
If it had crossed my mind, there's a good chance I would have included it on my ballot. It's probably the weakest Month Python film, but unless there's two or three more musical numbers in the others I'm not thinking of (besides Knights of the Round Table), it's probably the only one eligible for this countdown.

ETA: I couldn't manage a full ballot, so when I say, "I'd probably have considered it for my ballot," as long as my opinion was overall positive and would be something I'd be willing to rewatch, that probably means it would have made it.

Citizen Rules

10-04-24, 07:19 PM

Well folks, the countdown can only get better from here:D Sean must have voted for The Meaning of Life and Beelzebubble Cinderella. I never seen Cinderella (1965) but I did see The Meaning of Life...I like Monty Python stuff but not that movie much.

seanc

10-04-24, 07:57 PM

Well folks, the countdown can only get better from here:D Sean most have voted for The Meaning of Life and Beelzebubble Cinderella. I never seen Cinderella (1965) but I did see The Meaning of Life...I like Monty Python stuff but not that movie much.

Nope. I thought there were some moments in Meaning Of Life, but far from making my list.

Haven’t seen Cinderella. Who’s ready for me to say that about 70 more times during the countdown

SpelingError

10-04-24, 08:02 PM

I haven't seen the '65 Cinderella. Meaning of Life is good, albeit somewhat of a mixed bag.

mrblond

10-04-24, 08:13 PM

Monty Python's The Meaning of Life revealed so early!? I thought, it is far more popular here.

Well, since I consider it the best film by the Python's group, I have it high on my ballot at #7, which makes about half of its 35 points.
Rest in peace Terry Jones!
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cricket

10-04-24, 09:58 PM

iluv2viddyfilms

10-04-24, 10:18 PM

The Meaning of Life is spectacular with some genuinely creatively funny numbers including the "Every Sperm is Sacred" and "The Galaxy Song." I have it on an old DVD collecting dust, but it's a wonderful film and so glad it made the list. I remember watching it on TV late at night when I was around 11 or 12 thinking it was the most bizarre and craziest thing I'd ever seen. As much as I love it, I didn't have it on my list.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EntOjHJvYtY

Holden Pike

10-04-24, 10:37 PM

It's been so long since I've seen The Meaning of Life that I didn't even remember it being a musical. Regardless, despite loving Monty Python's Flying Circus, I've never cared for their movies.

I haven't seen that version of Cinderella, nor was I aware of it's existence.

Monty Python's Meaning of Life has three bonafide Musical moments among its episodic sketches ("Every Sperm is Sacred", "The Galaxy Song", and "It’s Christmas in Heaven"). I believe three songs was the minimum for inclusion on the list.

https://youtu.be/bzVHjg3AqIQ?si=C0KYU5fqAmU_RqKo

I love Python and I never considered it for my ballot.

As for "Cinderella", I didn't think TV movies were eligible nor do I think they should be, but even if they were I never would have voted for "Cinderella".

https://youtu.be/kntQNeSge5s?si=vzxLx0VbBnA3PY3F

PHOENIX74

10-05-24, 01:48 AM

It's started! It's started! I've seen one of those :

100. Cinderella (1965) - I've obviously heard of Cinderella before, but never knew about this mid-60s musical version of the story featuring Lesley Ann Warren, Ginger Rogers and Walter Pidgeon. I wonder if there'll be more Cinderellas show up here.

99. Monty Python's The Meaning of Life - One of the Python gang's lesser films, but still good enough for me to have seen it at least a dozen times. Basically a loose way to structure a series of sketches featuring subjects that range from birth to death. Please don't mention the vomiting sequence while I'm eating. I never really thought of this as a musical, but there are enough songs in it to well and truly push it over the line. You know, I never found this entry as funny as the other Python movies for some reason - but again, that's not to say that I didn't find it funny, or some segments hilarious. It's just, these guys set the bar so high! How do you follow up Holy Grain and Life of Brian? It's impossible.

Seen - 1/2

Daniel M

10-05-24, 03:37 AM

The Meaning of Life was number 17 on my list. There are a couple of parts that I don't care for much (the opening, the dining scene) but the rest I find pretty hilarious and the musical numbers are memorable.

Edit: I don't think I've ever seen that version of Cinderella.

Seen: 1/2

Thank you Thursday Next for all your hard work and a nice freshen up on the styling for the entry reveals too, Yoda. Looking good :)

Harry Lime

10-05-24, 11:42 AM

Thanks for hosting, Thursday! And the movie template style looks good too. I am the third and final Mofo, after mrblond and Daniel M, who voted for The Meaning of Life. I had it at #19. Glad it made the cut. Good job guys we got it in there and ahead of some TV movie about Cinderella too. Success!

Thief

10-05-24, 11:59 AM

I looooove the design of the countdown posts! Well worth the wait.

As for the films, I haven't seen either. I might have seen Meaning of Life back when I was a kid, but I don't know. If I did, I don't remember anything so yeah: NIL for now.

Citizen Rules

10-05-24, 12:37 PM

Late to the party but I had meant to say that the graphics design is neato! Kudos to Yoda for that and his behind the scenes hard work. And a BIG Thanks to Thursday for taking on the hosting duties and doing this for the MoFo community!

Thursday Next

10-05-24, 02:21 PM

2lists36pointstick, tick...BOOM! (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/537116-tick-tick...boom.html)Director
Lin-Manuel Miranda, 2021

Starring
Andrew Garfield, Alexandra Shipp, Robin de Jesús, Michaela Jaé Rodriguez

Thursday Next

10-05-24, 02:21 PM

3lists37pointsAmadeus (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/279-amadeus.html)Director
Miloš Forman, 1984

Starring
F. Murray Abraham, Tom Hulce, Elizabeth Berridge, Simon Callow

Allaby

10-05-24, 02:26 PM

I'v seen both. I really liked Andrew Garfield's performance in Tick Tick Boom, but felt the film was a little too long and dragged at times. I liked enough about it to rate it a 7/10, but it was never in contention for my ballot. Amadeus is excellent, but I don't really think of it as a musical, so it didn't make my ballot.

Seen: 3/4

Thursday Next

10-05-24, 02:28 PM

Amadeus is excellent, but I don't really think of it as a musical, so it didn't make my ballot.

Seen: 3/4

I assume it makes it on some kind of operatic technicality but couldn't be bothered to watch all 3 hours of it again to check. 3 users evidently thought it qualified so it's here.

Thursday Next

10-05-24, 02:29 PM

For mobile users:

#98 tick...tick...BOOM! (2021)
#97 Amadeus (1984)

John W Constantine

10-05-24, 02:36 PM

My #1 is still in contention.

Miss Vicky

10-05-24, 02:41 PM

I haven't seen Amadeus and didn't like tick, tick... BOOM! (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2476672#post2476672) No votes.

Little Ash

10-05-24, 02:42 PM

I have seen Amadeus at some point in my life. Possibly not my adult life, I can't remember. I'm trying to think of besides Cuckoo if there's any Forman I particularly like. I have seen a few of his Czech films, but they really didn't do it for me.

I haven't seen Tick Tick Boom.

I guess Amadeus is the one musical without singing then?

KeyserCorleone

10-05-24, 02:43 PM

I am sorely disappointed that Amadeus made it this low on the chart. I adore Amadeus. It is a perfectly melodramatic musical biopic with pure finesse. But I didn't consider it a "musical" so I didn't vote for it, but if I had it would've been my number 3. I must've seen it five times already. In fact, I believe I watched it twice a couple month ago.

Seen 1/4

KeyserCorleone

10-05-24, 02:44 PM

stillmellow

10-05-24, 02:45 PM

The list:

#100 - Cinderella (1965)
#99 - The Meaning of Life (1983)
#98 - tick...tick...BOOM! (2021)
#97 - Amadeus (1984)

None from my list, but a worthy set of competitors. I'm actually surprised Amadeus didn't rank higher.

seanc

10-05-24, 02:53 PM

I liked Tick Tick Boom, but not enough to give it a vote. Been meaning to rewatch Amadeus for quite a while now. I really liked it first go, my kind of flick. Like others, I wasn’t considering it here.

Thief

10-05-24, 03:13 PM

Two more donuts for me.

I've seen Amadeus and I remember liking it a lot, but to be honest, I didn't consider it as a musical.

As a Puerto Rican, I should probably see tick, tick... BOOM! but I just haven't found the time.

Gideon58

10-05-24, 03:31 PM

John-Connor

10-05-24, 03:38 PM

SEEN 00/04
BALLOT 00/25

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Citizen Rules

10-05-24, 04:16 PM

I'm getting the feeling there's going to be a lot of near-musicals in this countdown. Probably because there's not alot of musical lovers here.

cricket

10-05-24, 04:38 PM

I've not seen Tick Tick Boom Boom

Saw Amadeus once and didn't like it. Rock Me Amadeus is pretty cool though.

MovieMeditation

10-05-24, 04:39 PM

Never seen or even heard of that version of Cinderella… The Meaning of Life is one of the better Python films I’ve seen, but I’m not really that big of a fan despite loving British humor.

Tick, tick… BOOM! was on my list. I haven’t seen a huge amount of musicals, but this one really stood out to me as unique, inspiring and really well made.

I love Amadeus but didn’t see it as a musical and therefore didn’t vote for it.

Robert the List

10-05-24, 04:42 PM

SEEN 00/04
BALLOT 00/25

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You've done very well to manage never to let someone convince you to watch Amadeus.
Good effort. I'm impressed.

SpelingError

10-05-24, 06:07 PM

I haven't seen Tick, Tick...Boom!.

Amadeus wasn't on my ballot since it didn't occur to me it was a musical, but it's excellent and would've been in my top 10 had I considered it as such.

rauldc14

10-05-24, 08:05 PM

Tick Tick Boom was 4 for me. Thank God I put in that high as it would have really been a shame to see it miss. Thankfully MovieMeditation came in through the clutch to get it on here as well!

Little Ash

10-05-24, 08:49 PM

I've not seen Tick Tick Boom Boom

Saw Amadeus once and didn't like it. Rock Me Amadeus is pretty cool though.

If Dr. Zaius was eligible, I probably would have voted for it. But I'm guessing fictitious stage musicals that appear in an episode of a TV show weren't eligible.

By "guessing," I mean, "of course they obviously were not."

Takoma11

10-05-24, 08:52 PM

I really liked tick tick . . . BOOM, and it was on my list. I thought it was very funny and I really like that the starting point of the film is the main character doing "the big thing" . . . only to be told that in this business, "the big thing" is just the beginning.

stillmellow

10-05-24, 10:43 PM

I grew up on musicals, as my mom was a huge fan and was always watching them. Even though I grew up liking the genre, I confess it was almost never the musicals she likes. The Fred Astaire, Bing Crosby, and Gene Kelly movies are far too squeaky clean for my taste.

I also grew up on the Muppets, which also fed into my love of random music numbers.

So far:

Seen 3 out of 4
List 0 out of 25

PHOENIX74

10-05-24, 10:55 PM

98. tick, tick... BOOM! (2021) - This one has been on my radar big time, but I simply haven't gotten around to watching it yet. Sometimes you just have to make it happen because you never cross paths with a movie you fully intend to see when you get the chance.

97. Amadeus (1984) - One of the all time great films. I don't think I've ever heard it described as a musical before, although I can nearly see it as such if I narrow my eyes and stretch both the definition of "musical" and the different ways you can describe this movie. Amadeus is exceedingly good in every department, and a stunning cinematic achievement. I love it, and I've seen it many times.

Seen 2/4
Never knew about 1/4

beelzebubble

10-05-24, 11:48 PM

Hello Yoda and Thursday Next, FYI I’m not seeing the reveals on my phone.

gbgoodies

10-05-24, 11:51 PM

#100 - Cinderella (1965)

I love this version of Cinderella, and I specifically asked about the eligibility of TV versions of musicals, and I was told that they were not eligible, so it was immediately removed from my potential list at the time, and I didn't vote for it. :(

I can't say with 100% certainty that it would have made my final list, but it had a very good chance if I knew it would have been allowed.

I'm glad to see that it made the list anyway, but I wish the eligibility rules had been clearer or enforced better.

#99 - The Meaning of Life (1983)

I've seen several Monty Python movies, but Monty Python just isn't my type of comedy.

#98 - tick...tick...BOOM! (2021)

I watched tick...tick...BOOM! for this countdown and I liked the movie a lot, but the music was just okay. If this was a countdown for favorite movies, it might have had a chance of making my list, but as a musical, I didn't consider it for my list.

#97 - Amadeus (1984)

I watched Amadeus a while back, but I didn't really like it much. I also didn't think it would have been eligible for this list because if I remember correctly, the music was instrumentals, not songs that were sung.

dadgumblah

10-06-24, 01:22 AM

And we're off!
I remember really liking Cinderella as a kid, particularly for Lesley Ann Warren :love: but it's been so long that I didn't rewatch, therefore didn't put it on my list. And despite really liking The Meaning of Life, I remember it more for the comedy bits than I do for the songs so I didn't consider it. Nice to see both of them on here.

Tick, Tick...Boom! is one I've heard of but have had no real desire to see.
Amadeus is a movie I love and F. Murray Abraham gives one of the greatest all-time film performances, IMO. But despite there being great music in it, like almost everyone, I don't consider it a musical.

So far:
#25. Neptune's Daughter (one-pointer)

WHITBISSELL!

10-06-24, 01:41 AM

2 for 4. I was one of the two people who put Cinderella on their ballot (#5). Loved it as a kid. Who doesn't like Rodgers & Hammerstein? And I didn't think Amadeus was considered a musical or else I would have made room on my ballot.

Citizen Rules

10-06-24, 02:16 AM

Hello @Yoda (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=1) and @Thursday Next (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=9011), FYI I’m not seeing the reveals on my phone.Me neither;)
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2Foriginals%2Faf%2F69%2F12%2Faf6912bbb176029aa437e27b4d218c9b.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=8c8f02b79fcf985edae38060e336bb8063bdeeb8061331806d5c641027cd4afa&ipo=images
The damn screen is missing and every time I try to scroll an operator ask me, 'What number was I trying to reach?'

dadgumblah

10-06-24, 02:49 AM

Me neither;)
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2Foriginals%2Faf%2F69%2F12%2Faf6912bbb176029aa437e27b4d218c9b.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=8c8f02b79fcf985edae38060e336bb8063bdeeb8061331806d5c641027cd4afa&ipo=images
The damn screen is missing and every time I try to scroll an operator ask me, 'What number was I trying to reach?'

:rotfl:

I found your reply (particularly the picture) really hilarious. So, after having a crappy day, I thank you for the much-needed laugh!

Daniel M

10-06-24, 08:36 AM

Tick, Tick... Boom! came out in a year where I don't think I kept up with films well. I don't really know anything about the film, just had a quick look and I'm not sure it will be for me.

Amadeus is very good, but definitely not a musical.

2/4 seen.

Robert the List

10-06-24, 10:54 AM

If this ever finishes, we should do a chart of the ones that are the least similar to a musical (with the one which is the least similar to a musical at the top).

Thursday Next

10-06-24, 11:12 AM

I love this version of Cinderella, and I specifically asked about the eligibility of TV versions of musicals, and I was told that they were not eligible, so it was immediately removed from my potential list at the time, and I didn't vote for it. :(

I can't say with 100% certainty that it would have made my final list, but it had a very good chance if I knew it would have been allowed.

I'm glad to see that it made the list anyway, but I wish the eligibility rules had been clearer or enforced better.

.

You asked about some specific movies, and I asked you whether they were proper movies that happened to be on TV or like filmed versions of live stage plays, which wouldn't be eligible.

I admit it could have been clearer in advance whether TV movies were eligible. I didn't really think it was going to be an issue until Cinderella turned up in the top 100. At that point, having not ruled specifically against TV movies, it would have been unfair to exclude it.

Thursday Next

10-06-24, 11:16 AM

I'm getting the feeling there's going to be a lot of near-musicals in this countdown. Probably because there's not alot of musical lovers here.

If it helps, I'm pretty sure at least 80% of the countdown is proper musicals.

Thursday Next

10-06-24, 11:20 AM

OK, the next 4 movies all have 38 points so I will have to do some quick tiebreaking...

Thursday Next

10-06-24, 11:22 AM

3lists37pointsThe Smiling Lieutenant (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/31409-the-smiling-lieutenant.html)Director
Ernst Lubitsch, 1931

Starring
Maurice Chevalier, Claudette Colbert, Miriam Hopkins, Charles Ruggles

Thursday Next

10-06-24, 11:23 AM

3lists38pointsWalk the Line (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/69-walk-the-line.html)Director
James Mangold, 2005

Starring
Joaquin Phoenix, Reese Witherspoon, Ginnifer Goodwin, Robert Patrick

Thursday Next

10-06-24, 11:23 AM

#96 - The Smiling Lieutenant
#95 - Walk the Line

Little Ash

10-06-24, 11:31 AM

I've not seen either Walk the Line nor The Smiling Lieutenant. Lubitsch might be one of those famous directors that I don't think I've ever seen any of their films.

Thursday Next

10-06-24, 11:35 AM

A note on tiebreakers... when films have the same number of points, the one that appears on the most lists is given the higher ranking. If this still doesn't break the tie, the one with the highest placement on an individual list gets the higher ranking.

In the case of the 4 films on 38 points, one was on 4 ballots, so that comes highest. The other two had a 1st place and a 4th place respectively, so they'll show up tomorrow, ahead of Walk the Line which shows today in 95th place as its highest placement was at #6 on a ballot.

rauldc14

10-06-24, 11:35 AM

Seen Walk the Line. It's ok

rauldc14

10-06-24, 11:36 AM

Miss Vicky at 6

Thursday Next

10-06-24, 11:36 AM

Did you know if you click on the movie name on the countdown posts, it takes you to the page for that movie so you can find out more about it? Big thanks to Yoda for coding that in.

MovieMeditation

10-06-24, 11:58 AM

Not seen or heard of The Smiling Lieutenant…

I’ve seen and really liked Walk the Line, but it wasn’t on my list.

exiler96

10-06-24, 12:34 PM

I didn't vote Amadeus (didn't consider it a musical...which was a mistake it seems) but you gonna tell me there are 96 movies here that are better? You full of surprises MoFo!

Johnny Cash is probably my favorite singer ever... Phoenix did him fine, but Witherspoon steals that movie, somehow.

Omnizoa

10-06-24, 12:35 PM

Seen The Meaning of Life, even remember... 1 song from it. Both it and Life of Brian are the least memorable Monty Python movies to me.

Haven't seen any of the others so far.

Miss Vicky

10-06-24, 12:35 PM

Miss Vicky at 6

Yep, I was the highest vote.

Once it was made clear that movies about musicians would be eligible, there was never even a shred of doubt that Walk the Line would be on my ballot and placed quite high. It features some really great (and award-winning) performances in which the cast did all of their own singing and I really love the soundtrack. I'm a little disappointed at its low placement, but I'm happy that it made the cut.

Here's what I wrote about it when I rewatched it for the countdown:

http://www.angelfire.com/music6/walteregan/MoFoTop100/walktheline.gif

Walk the Line
(James Mangold, 2005)

This is not a movie that I needed to watch for this countdown. As soon as I knew it was eligible, there was never any doubt that it would get my vote. But it's been a few years since I last watched it and I'd kind of forgotten just how jam packed full of music it is and just how much that I enjoy that music. Which isn't to say that I'm a Johnny Cash fan. I am not. I think I have an "essentials" CD plus Unchained - the album he did with Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers - but besides a handful of his hits, especially his cover of "Hurt," I never had much interest in his music. But I really enjoy the soundtrack to this film and am impressed with the vocal performances from its cast.

But besides just the music, the acting here is really strong. Joaquin Phoenix in particular brings a huge amount of intensity to his portrayal of Cash and I cannot take my eyes off him (of course the fact that he looks so damn good in it doesn't hurt). He is absolutely mesmerizing. But the other performances are also very strong with the obvious standout being Reese Witherspoon in her Oscar winning turn as June Carter Cash.

Speaking of awards, despite Phoenix's Golden Globe win for "Best Actor in a Musical Or Comedy" with this performance, obviously this isn't a musical with a capital M. But I do think it's very worthy of inclusion in the countdown and will rank quite high on my ballot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_fgX9MUfVM

4.5

I don't think I've ever heard of The Smiling Lieutenant.

My Ballot:
6. Walk the Line (#95)
25. Joe's Apartment (One Pointer)

Allaby

10-06-24, 12:47 PM

Walk the Line is entertaining and well made with good performances. I rated it an 8/10, but there wasn't room on my ballot to consider it. I don't think I have seen The Smiling Lieutenant.

Seen: 4/6

Gideon58

10-06-24, 12:55 PM

Don’t really consider Walk the Line to be a musical

Citizen Rules

10-06-24, 01:05 PM

#96 - The Smiling Lieutenant...When I looked through a huge list of IMDB movies marked musicals I seen that title and knew it would make the countdown because it was directed by Lubitsch.

#95 - Walk the Line...Love this movie! I watched it back in the Musical Artist Movie Hall of Fame (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=48337) hosted by SilentVamp. It was her nomination. I wrote this:
https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=41833&stc=1&d=1518821005
Walk The Line (2005)

I knew this was a really good movie, and on a second watch I'm more convinced of that than ever!

Joaquin Phoenix gave a fine performance as a young Johnny Cash. Did he look just like him? No...and that doesn't matter. What does matter is he nailed the body language and vocal inflections of Johnny Cash. I believed he was the man in black! And Joaquin sang his own songs, impressive! He sounded good too and sounded like Cash.

Reese Witherspoon, I have no idea what June Carter Cash looks or sounds like and it doesn't matter to me if Reese doesn't look just like her. She captured this lively spirit and convinced me she was June. And she sang her own songs too! And could Reese be any more cuter than in the start of this movie! Especially in the 1954 scenes at the Grand Old Opry, wow...she was perkily, adorable!

https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=41834&stc=1&d=1518821014

What an amazing story and told so well that I held my breath for much of the movie...That means I was intently focused on the story and that doesn't happen with many movies. The sets and the way it was filmed told me this was a professionally made movie. I'm not a fan of country music and yet I still liked hearing the songs performed live...and that says a lot about the quality of the movie too.

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SpelingError

10-06-24, 01:08 PM

I haven't seen either film.

Citizen Rules

10-06-24, 01:11 PM

Even though I loved Walk the Line and it was eligible I only voted for movies that were traditional type musicals. So far none of the movies on my ballot have showed up and I expect many won't.

Yoda

10-06-24, 01:12 PM

Sorry about the display issue on mobile, should be fixed by Monday.

John-Connor

10-06-24, 02:05 PM

SEEN 00/06
BALLOT 00/25

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LAMb EELYAK

10-06-24, 02:36 PM

Lubitsch might be one of those famous directors that I don't think I've ever seen any of their films.

I highly recommend watching at least To Be or Not to Be.

7. The Smiling Lieutenant
25. Commentary! The Musical

John W Constantine

10-06-24, 02:39 PM

My #1 is still in contention.

honeykid

10-06-24, 03:51 PM

If this ever finishes, we should do a chart of the ones that are the least similar to a musical (with the one which is the least similar to a musical at the top).

My #25 choice may well win that. I thought it'd be a one pointer, but someone else must've seen it qualified after I did and added it. The only time I've ever tried to play the 1 pointer game and I failed. :D

So far I've seen 2 of them. The Meaning of Life, which I didn't even like when I saw it during the 6 months I found MP funny and Amadeus, which I've only seen once back in the 80's but remember thinking was very good. Probably not long after it was released on video.

Holden Pike

10-06-24, 03:57 PM

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Amadeus was #24 on the MoFo Top 100 of the 1980s as well as #50 on the MoFo Top 100 Refresh.

Thief

10-06-24, 04:13 PM

Nothing yet for me. My list is pretty basic so I'm pretty sure it will take a while for anything from my ballot to hit.

Thursday Next

10-06-24, 04:17 PM

Guesses for the next day's movies are always welcome :)

John-Connor

10-06-24, 04:30 PM

Guesses for the next day's movies are always welcome :)
94. An American Tail (1986)
93. Summer Holiday (1963)

SpelingError

10-06-24, 07:40 PM

Guesses for the next day's movies are always welcome :)

Any hints?

cricket

10-06-24, 07:55 PM

I probably liked Walk the Line fine enough(a guess), but it quickly slipped from my memory.

I've not seen The Smiling Lieutenant.

kgaard

10-06-24, 08:07 PM

I think I've seen bits of tick ... tick ... Boom! while my wife watched it, but not enough to fairly rate it. I'm not big on Larson in general, though. Amadeus is another one I haven't seen in a long, long time--I rate it highly and it was on my short list, but I ultimately decided between not having seen it in forever (I won't be consistent on this, fair warning) and it not being "musical" enough, I left it off my list. Genre borders are porous, however, so happy enough to see it here.

I haven't seen The Smiling Lieutenant. I didn't love Walk the Line. Biopics in general are a tough sell for me (though there are good ones!) and, to be honest, I'm always a little puzzled by biopics that don't show off the reason the movie exists in the first place--in this case, Johnny Cash's singing. I get that you like to have the actors do it all, and to be fair, Phoenix does as good a job as he can... but he's not Cash. No vote from me, but cheers to its supporters.

Harry Lime

10-06-24, 08:15 PM

Nice I had Amadeus at #15. It is a great MUSICAL.

stillmellow

10-06-24, 10:07 PM

I haven't seen either Smiling Lieutenant or Walk the Line. I love Johnny Cash, but I tend to shy away from musical biopic. Having not seen it, I cannot comment on its status as 'being a musical'.

Seen 3 out of 6
List 0 out of 25

For tomorrow I'm gonna guess...

96. Hair
95. Frozen

gbgoodies

10-07-24, 12:14 AM

I love this version of Cinderella, and I specifically asked about the eligibility of TV versions of musicals, and I was told that they were not eligible, so it was immediately removed from my potential list at the time, and I didn't vote for it. :(

I can't say with 100% certainty that it would have made my final list, but it had a very good chance if I knew it would have been allowed.

I'm glad to see that it made the list anyway, but I wish the eligibility rules had been clearer or enforced better.

You asked about some specific movies, and I asked you whether they were proper movies that happened to be on TV or like filmed versions of live stage plays, which wouldn't be eligible.

I admit it could have been clearer in advance whether TV movies were eligible. I didn't really think it was going to be an issue until Cinderella turned up in the top 100. At that point, having not ruled specifically against TV movies, it would have been unfair to exclude it.

Yes, your reply was kind of "on the fence" as to whether or not TV versions of musicals were eligible, but another MoFo, (who I won't name), but someone who has been here a long time, has hosted one of these countdowns, and seems to know the rules, messaged me telling me that TV movies were not eligible.

So I trusted this person's reply and removed all the musicals from my list that would have been ineligible.

gbgoodies

10-07-24, 12:30 AM

I like The Smiling Lieutenant, and it has some good songs, but I don't consider it a favorite musical, so it was never considered for my list.

Walk the Line is a great movie with top-notch performances, and I love Johnny Cash, so I considered this movie for my list, but there was just no room for it.

dadgumblah

10-07-24, 03:44 AM

I hadn't heard of The Smiling Lieutenant till now. But I like Maurice Chevalier and look forward to watching this one.

Walk the Line is a fine film, with the two leads doing stellar work. I didn't include either film on my list.

So far:
#25. Neptune's Daughter (one-pointer)

PHOENIX74

10-07-24, 04:23 AM

3/3 for Seen one and not the other.

96. The Smiling Lieutenant (1931) - Never even heard of this one. It sounds very happy.

95. Walk the Line (2005) - Been a while since I've seen this, but I remember liking it one hell of a lot. I recently upgraded to a better version for my movie collection, but still haven't watched it again because of a general aversion to musical biopics. By the way - are there actual songs sung in this movie, or are they just snippets of songs? You know, when you stretch the definition, just about any movie can be considered a musical. I accept what we get because it's a consensus though. Anyway, I like Johnny Cash, I like Joaquin Phoenix and I like James Mangold - none are perfect, but all have moments that are amazing.

Seen 3/6

Holden Pike

10-07-24, 10:05 AM

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Amadeus was on my ballot at number seventeen, accounting for nine of its thirty-seven points. Miloš Forman assembles all the requisite aesthetic trappings of a grand historical costume biopic, but the universal pull of the story is a laughing imp who happens to be a genius resented by a seething mediocrity cursed with the knowledge of his own failings, anchored by F. Murray Abraham's magnificent performance. If you've somehow never watched Amadeus because you fear it is going to be a stuffy chore about an idealized historical figure you are missing out on a heck of a flick that is funny and caustic and wonderful.

HOLDEN’S BALLOT
17. Amadeus (#97)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fQo23YRj30

Citizen Rules

10-07-24, 12:18 PM

Yes, your reply was kind of "on the fence" as to whether or not TV versions of musicals were eligible, but another MoFo, (who I won't name), but someone who has been here a long time, has hosted one of these countdowns, and seems to know the rules, messaged me telling me that TV movies were not eligible.

So I trusted this person's reply and removed all the musicals from my list that would have been ineligible.Was that me who messaged you? I honestly don't remember if I messaged you and said TV movies weren't allowed, but if I did and I got that wrong I apologize.

Gideon58

10-07-24, 12:34 PM

If I had thought TV versions of musicals were available I would have seriously considered the Bette Midler version of Gypsy for my list.

Holden Pike

10-07-24, 12:34 PM

It was probably me, and I would only have said that because television movies have never, ever been eligible in any of the other previous (are we up to twenty-five of these) MoFo Lists. Apparently this one is different. Yippee?

Miss Vicky

10-07-24, 12:44 PM

Television movies have never, ever been eligible in any of the other previous (are we up to twenty-five of these) MoFo Lists.

You sure about that?

From the Westerns Countdown that you hosted:

TV mini-series, such as "Lonesome Dove" and "The Sacketts", are not eligible. Made-for-TV projects that are feature length are fair game. Shorts are eligible.

From the Animation Countdown that I hosted:

• One-off television specials and made for TV movies are eligible for voting. Examples of eligible TV specials and movies: How the Grinch Stole Christmas, The Lorax (1972), It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown, and Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer.

Citizen Rules

10-07-24, 01:25 PM

For what it's worth, I think Thursday Next is doing an excellent job and made the right decision to allow a broader definition of musicals. Had she been hard core and only allowed the narrowest definition of what is a musical...the number of ballots would've dropped considerable. A lot of MoFos don't care for musicals and might have boycotted the countdown or not been able to make a ballot had the rules been really tight. Each countdown is different and Thursday made the right choices to make this countdown happen.

And if a few movies make the countdown that some feel aren't musicals, well that happens with every countdown an adds to to the uniqueness, it's MoFo tradition:p

Robert the List

10-07-24, 01:31 PM

I agree Thursday Next is doing a good job, albeit she is worrying too much about it.
Just put your feet up and crack a couple of tinnies open Next Thursday.

Having said that I do also though think the films could be released a little big quicker! It's not an issue for me, but for real hard core musical fans I'd imagine it might be a little bit frustrating, but maybe this is how you always do it I don't know! And for all I know, maybe they enjoy the suspense and the longevity of the thread!!!

exiler96

10-07-24, 01:31 PM

have never, ever been eligible in any of the other previous (are we up to twenty-five of these) MoFo Lists.By the way, you think you're ever gonna re-do any of those? us newly arrived ones would like to participate but the best days are over it seems :D

Robert the List

10-07-24, 01:32 PM

If I had thought TV versions of musicals were available I would have seriously considered the Bette Midler version of Gypsy for my list.

That's not something you say every day.

rauldc14

10-07-24, 01:34 PM

By the way, you think you're ever gonna re-do any of those? us newly arrived ones would like to participate but the best days are over it seems :D

There's been talk of refreshes. I think it will definitely happen.

Holden Pike

10-07-24, 01:37 PM

Since we've pretty well exhausted every possibility, yes, I expect we will probably get around to refreshing some of the older decade lists.

Gideon58

10-07-24, 01:57 PM

That's not something you say every day.

I don't know what that means

Wyldesyde19

10-07-24, 02:03 PM

Definitely the 90’s are due. We can replace certain movies such as Con Air, Edward Scissorhands, Batman Returns, The Fifth Element and Starship Troopers with more deserving films in my opinion.

Wooley

10-07-24, 02:11 PM

Wooley

10-07-24, 02:13 PM

Also FWIW, I like the pacing the way it is. I like to savor my countdowns.

John W Constantine

10-07-24, 02:19 PM

I think we need longer countdowns. 2 films per week.

mrblond

10-07-24, 02:19 PM

I'm the third who had Amadeus (1984) in the ballot. It is high there at #9.

Saw it in the theatre as a schoolboy when it was released and numerous more times through the years. This film is surely among the highest achievements in the cinema. How could it be skipped.

I've tried to have a full 25-item ballot with musicals in straightforward meaning but couldn't find enough that I like. So, per the initial intention for this countdown, I broaden it to 'musicals + films about music'. (actually, only three or four movies of mine are borderline, all of the others are truly musicals)

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7. Monty Python's The Meaning of Life (1983) [#99]
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9. Amadeus (1984) [#97]
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25. The Gypsy Camp Vanishes Into the Blue (1975) [one pointer]

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Thief

10-07-24, 02:27 PM

Thursday Next

10-07-24, 02:30 PM

Having said that I do also though think the films could be released a little big quicker! It's not an issue for me, but for real hard core musical fans I'd imagine it might be a little bit frustrating, but maybe this is how you always do it I don't know! And for all I know, maybe they enjoy the suspense and the longevity of the thread!!!

Yep, two films a day is how these countdowns are always done. Drops down to one a day for the top 10!

It'll all be over by Christmas...

Miss Vicky

10-07-24, 02:47 PM

Wyldesyde19

10-07-24, 02:57 PM

I voted for these movies last time we did the countdown and they will make my ballot again.
Heh. I’m not surprised. Hoping some of those get squeezed out.

Citizen Rules

10-07-24, 03:14 PM

Heh. I’m not surprised. Hoping some of those get squeezed out.If we redo the 90s next, and I think we will, nothing technically would be squeezed out as the old 90s list will also remain on the List section. I know you weren't saying that but I wanted to clarify for the brand spankin' new MoFos.:p

Thursday Next

10-07-24, 03:14 PM

3lists38pointsThe Prince of Egypt (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/9837-the-prince-of-egypt.html)Director
Simon Wells, 1998

Starring
Val Kilmer, Ralph Fiennes, Michelle Pfeiffer, Sandra Bullock

Thursday Next

10-07-24, 03:14 PM

3lists38pointsOn the Town (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/31516-on-the-town.html)Director
Stanley Donen, 1949

Starring
Gene Kelly, Frank Sinatra, Betty Garrett, Ann Miller

Allaby

10-07-24, 03:21 PM

Seen and liked both, but neither were ever in contention for my ballot.

Seen: 6/8

Citizen Rules

10-07-24, 03:26 PM

On the Town (1949) Love this musical and I seriously considered it for my ballot. I've seen it a couple of times and plan on watching it again, heck maybe I'll catch it tonight! I'm a huge fan of all the major stars: Gene Kelly, Frank Sinatra, Betty Garrett, Ann Miller. Especially fond of Betty Garrett because she was on Laverne & Shirley as the landlady. Ann Miller is always fun and a first rate dancer!

honeykid

10-07-24, 03:28 PM

Definitely the 90’s are due. We can replace certain movies such as Con Air, Edward Scissorhands, Batman Returns, The Fifth Element and Starship Troopers with more deserving films in my opinion.
If Batman Returns or Starship Troopers don't make a 90's refresh list then there's something very wrong in the state of Mofo.

FWIW, I'd expect all of those to reappear because they all appeal to enough of a different kind of movie fan to be included on multiple lists and, in some cases, quite highly. Although I'd also expect that list to start at quite a high number of votes, too.

As for todays pick? Seen neither, desire to see neither.

Citizen Rules

10-07-24, 03:32 PM

Who's the best female dancer in Hollywood movies? I know who I'd say.

KeyserCorleone

10-07-24, 03:38 PM

YES! The Prince of Egypt was my number 6, which means I gave it 20 points, and am directly responsible for over half it's points! I have to confess something here, a while back I feigned ignorance of the film in the worry that someone from a old website I don't want to return to might recognize me... Sorry everyone. But TOoE is a lifelong nostalgia piece that I can never possibly get tired of. It is the perfect Biblical film, and ever song is a banger among bangers. I was four when this came out, and I saw it a million times since. So I am an old school Dreamworker (especially when the prequel and Galaxy Quest are involved.

Seen 2/6, but MUST see that other one for Kelly and Sinatra.

kgaard

10-07-24, 03:42 PM

I had pretty similar reactions to both The Prince of Egypt and On the Town--both are charming and sweet but not strong enough to make my list. I watched On the Town long ago with my wife (then-girlfriend) and my main memory of it is that she teased me with the line "You're old, dear, old like gorgonzola" for years afterward (while I was not so old at the time, I'm several years older than her). Oh, and both of us tee-heeing (because we are similar in immaturity) at the plug at the end of the trailer: "Twice as Gay as Anchors Aweigh!"

Miss Vicky

10-07-24, 03:54 PM

I tried watching The Prince of Egypt at one point years ago, but I don't think I ever finished it. Have not seen the other.

Thief

10-07-24, 03:55 PM

Hmm, for some reason I didn't think of The Prince of Egypt. Probably because I made a conscious decision not to include too many animated films (although a handful still sneaked into my ballot, mostly because of how catchy the musical numbers are). Regardless of that, The Prince of Egypt is a gorgeously animated film. I revisited a couple of years ago and it held up extremely well. The songs probably didn't stuck with me as much as other films (although I find myself now humming "Playing with the Big Boys"), but I still think it's a great film and I'm glad it made it.

I still haven't seen On the Town, but I've had it on my radar for a while.

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