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Gideon58
10-14-24, 11:29 AM
Stats: Pit Stop #2
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Now that we've hit the second pit stop (80), here are some stats:
Decade Breakdown
1920s = 0
1930s = 2
1940s = 1
1950s = 3
1960s = 1
1970s = 1
1980s = 3
1990s = 2
2000s = 1
2010s = 4
2020s = 2
After going blank in the first batch, the 1950s came rolling on this one to tie for second place with the 1980s, both with 3 entries. The 2010s also had a strong showing to end up at the top with 4 entries.
Still no repeated directors, but on another note, it's worth mentioning that we've had 3 animated films so far.
Another movie I’ve never heard of
Thursday Next
10-14-24, 02:12 PM
4lists48pointsThe Band Wagon (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/29376-the-band-wagon.html)Director
Vincente Minnelli, 1953
Starring
Fred Astaire, Cyd Charisse, Oscar Levant, Nanette Fabray
Thursday Next
10-14-24, 02:12 PM
3lists50pointsCharlotte's Web (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/15171-charlottes-web.html)Director
Charles A. Nichols, 1973
Starring
Debbie Reynolds, Henry Gibson, Danny Bonaduce, Agnes Moorehead
rauldc14
10-14-24, 02:15 PM
Charlotte's Web is a good movie. And honestly it could have made the backend of my list. Glad to see it here
I liked both The Band Wagon and Charlotte's Web, but neither were in contention for my ballot.
Seen: 21/22
rauldc14
10-14-24, 02:20 PM
Oh and I disliked The Band Wagon, for the most part.
MovieMeditation
10-14-24, 02:23 PM
Seen neither
Citizen Rules
10-14-24, 02:28 PM
It's been eight years since I last watched The Band Wagon, in the 1950s HoF Part 2. I had planned on a rewatch before sending in my ballot but never got around to it. Glad it made the countdown:)
http://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=26764&stc=1&d=1472409331
The Band Wagon (Vincente Minnelli, 1953)
As soon as the title credits rolled in The Band Wagon and I seen that top hat, cane and white gloves, I knew what that meant! I got a big kick out of it when those accouterments were being auctioned as belonging to a 'once famous' but forgotten hoofer, played by Fred Astaire. Oh, the irony!....I loved the fictitious film reference of Swinging Down to Panama, which is a nod to the first film Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers ever made together, Flying Down to Rio. The film that made him a star. Fred is the greatest dancer to ever grace the movie screen. His early 1930s and 1940s films are the stuff of legends.
http://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=26762&stc=1&d=1472408974
Musicals are about the 'numbers'. And I loved the night dance in the park. Louisiana Hayride was a splashy fun number belted out by stage great Nanette Fabray...And the Triplet number was one of funniest routines ever put to music.
http://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=26763&stc=1&d=1472409157
But the creme de la creme, was the sublime Girl Hunt number. That was sheer genius! The dance was done in a modern Bob Fosse style and very different than the traditional soft shoe and ballroom dancing that was done in the rest of the film. Director Vincent Minnelli's auteur stamp is all over the set design and costumes of this musical number. The Girl Hunt number makes this movie! But so do many of the other fine musical numbers.
The Band Wagon is the first from my ballot to make it. I had it at #21. It's a film I saw recently and I really liked Fred Astaire in the lead role. I really enjoyed the musical numbers, especially the "Shine on Your Shoes" and "That's Entertainment". I do think the film went a bit too long, but I still enjoyed it (here's my review (https://www.movieforums.com/reviews/2454774-the_band_wagon.html))
I haven't seen Charlotte's Web.
SEEN: 5/22
MY BALLOT: 1/25
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25. Hallelujah (One-pointer)
John W Constantine
10-14-24, 02:38 PM
24 from my list are still in contention.
The Band Wagon gives Vincente Minnelli our first "duplicate director" spot. He had Gigi at #85, and will certainly have a couple more down the list.
It also becomes the film with the second highest RT score at 95%, which means a high likability for the film across the board.
Charlotte's Web becomes the fourth animated film to make it on the list.
exiler96
10-14-24, 03:01 PM
I wish I liked The Band Wagon more tbh. I wish it had stronger characters and motivations, or a more engaging plot.
It was like Singin' in the Rain in that regard, except with less memorable and funny numbers.
I haven't seen The Band Wagon, and I don't think I've seen Charlotte's Web since I was a kid, so I have only the vaguest remaining impression of it. No votes from me.
KeyserCorleone
10-14-24, 03:36 PM
Charlotte's Web is a cute one with quality songs and a good story. Didn't quite make my ballot.
Miss Vicky
10-14-24, 03:51 PM
Templeton is my spirit animal, I've always loved Charlotte's Web, and it was #2 on my ballot.
Here's what I wrote about it when I rewatched it for the countdown:
http://www.angelfire.com/music6/walteregan/AnimationCountdown/Gifs/57charlottesweb.gif
Charlotte's Web
(Charles A. Nichols and Iwao Takamoto, 1973)
I've never been a fan of musicals, even as a child I wasn't much one for the genre but this particular movie has always stood out to me and I think it's a shame that I don't often hear people talk about it. I get that it doesn't have that same crisp, polished look as the offerings of Disney, nor are its colors as vibrant as those films, but I think it's immensely charming just the same.
I've always really liked the character designs, particularly those of Templeton the rat and Charlotte the spider, and I think the animators did a wonderful job of bringing E.B. White's classic children's novel to the screen. But what really stands out to me is the voice work. The casting is absolutely perfect and most surprising of all is that I truly love all of its songs. I don't think there's really a weak one in the bunch, though of course the show stopper for me has always been and will forever be Templeton's rendition of "Veritable Smorgasbord" (with the rat/goose duet version of the song being a close second) and really Templeton totally steals the show in every scene where he appears. I do like Wilbur the pig, but that self-centered, sarcastic rat is hilarious and is totally my spirit animal. The character is also partly responsible for my near lifelong love of pet rats, though I no longer keep them.
While I acknowledge that much of my love for this movie is based in nostalgia, I do think it's a genuinely wonderful movie and I really, really hope it sneaks onto the countdown.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xE4RRKaCifU
4.5
I haven't seen The Band Wagon.
My Ballot:
2. Charlotte's Web (#79)
6. Walk the Line (#95)
25. Joe's Apartment (One Pointer)
Citizen Rules
10-14-24, 03:54 PM
I watched Charlotte's Web in the Musical Group Watch...(more of you should've joined in!)...Glad it made the countdown:)
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse4.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.wfJFJYqgshJnFGr2MAvRlAAAAA%26pid%3DApi&f=1&ipt=f5215fe090528c9f3685947f708f110c805bfa28a4050e56325914d9b6414c3d&ipo=images
Charlotte's Web (1973)
I really enjoyed watching this one. It's such a heart felt story with lots of positivity. Yes, it's also bittersweet with Charlotte...and her story is handled so well that it's like a life lesson. People often talk about being moved by a movie and yet the same movie doesn't emotionally reach me at all. However Charlotte's Web did emotionally reach me and I was indeed moved by the story. During the movie I paused it to take a break and my wife tells me there's a bug in the closet. I look and see it's a little, light brownish spider, not unlike Charlotte. So I get a piece of paper and let the spider crawl onto the paper and I escort it outside, as I never kill spiders. Call me silly but that coincidences felt just a little bit magical to me and that's thanks to the movie...Great choice.
Templeton is my spirit animal, I've always loved Charlotte's Web, and it was #2 on my ballot.
Although I don't recall the movie well enough to have voted for it, I did once have a cat (RIP) who I named Templeton after the rat from Charlotte's Web. Great cat, that one: handsome devil, and dumb as a post.
Omnizoa
10-14-24, 04:59 PM
> Charlotte's Web
Holy crap, I don't think I've seen that since I was a tween and had no memory of it being a musical, but I just looked it up and I've 100% heard these songs before. I also have an intensely vague recollection of that rat in the spaghetti.
Reminds me of the highly specific memories I have of watching The Rescuers Down Under.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kvqIswrPhg
Omnizoa
10-14-24, 05:01 PM
I watched Charlotte's Web in the Musical Group Watch...(more of you should've joined in!)
Where was that organized?
Where was that organized?
The MoFo Musical Countdown - Group Watch (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=70376)
Daniel M
10-14-24, 05:25 PM
The Band Wagon was my number four. Fantastic film and I'm surprised it's so low - just so great in every department. I haven't seen many Minnelli films but from what I have, he's a great.
cricket
10-14-24, 05:55 PM
Being a childhood favorite carried more weight when I made my musical ballot compared to past ballots. Besides, I watched Charlotte's Web for the group watch and still loved it.
I've seen The Band Wagon but I don't remember it.
5. Charlotte's Web (#79)
17. Calamity Jane (#84)
Omnizoa
10-14-24, 06:19 PM
The MoFo Musical Countdown - Group Watch (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=70376)
Ah, I thought it might have been a live group chat or something.
stillmellow
10-14-24, 06:22 PM
Charlotte's Web JUST missed my list. #26
If you didn't emotionally react to Charlotte's last song, then I don't care to know you.
I haven't seen Bandwagon.
Seen: 12/22
List: 0
Should've been on list: 1 (The Burden)
SpelingError
10-14-24, 07:04 PM
Seen and enjoyed both, but neither film made my ballot.
exiler96
10-14-24, 09:26 PM
Charlotte's Web JUST missed my list. #26
If you didn't emotionally react to Charlotte's last song before dying, then I don't care to know you.
Spoiler alert, sister.
stillmellow
10-14-24, 10:02 PM
Spoiler alert, sister.
'Sibling', if you would. I'm non-binary over here.
And sorry, I didn't know we were avoiding spoilers for 50+ year old films.
dadgumblah
10-15-24, 06:23 AM
The Band Wagon is a great musical and has a terrific set of songs throughout, great comedy, Fred dancing and cutting up, Oscar Levant bringing the funny (although it's reported that he was hard to work with, I still like him in several musicals), the beautiful and smoldering Cyd Charisse, etc. etc. It almost made my list but there's several other Astaire movies that I wanted, so BW just missed out. Glad it made though.
Charlotte's Web is a wonderful film, with great songs, and a beautiful story with the barnyard animals forming into a touching group of friends. The stars did great voice work but like most, it was Paul Lynde as Templeton that stole the show. Just great, great stuff. Still, I didn't include any animation...not on purpose but just that there were too many live action musicals I wanted on my list. Great picks today.
So far:
#1. On the Town
#10. Gigi
#12. Calamity Jane
#25. Neptune's Daughter (one-pointer)
PHOENIX74
10-15-24, 07:48 AM
80. The Band Wagon (1953) - Not really familiar with this one at all. I'll have to check it out one day.
79. Charlotte's Web (1973) - I'm familiar with this one - I've seen it half a dozen times or so I'd reckon, but the last time would have been long, long ago. Still, I can remember most of it pretty well. Am I too old now to break down in tears when Charlotte (SPOILERS!) dies? I do not know. Would it make me think twice about squishing that spider in the house? Depends. If I'm having a shower and a spider decides to try and share that intimate moment, it's getting squished and it's remains are going down the drain - otherwise, I might collect it and usher it outside. But back to the movie. Great animated musical, and a classic when I was a child - I probably saw it for the first time at school, and after that on video. I'm now old enough and well versed enough in pop culture to recognize the voice of Paul Lynde without having to be told it's him playing the part of rat Templeton. This didn't make my ballot. There's simply too many other musicals I love today for it to find a place, but if I were a young boy again, it would be getting votes from me.
Seen : 14/22
And sorry, I didn't know we were avoiding spoilers for 50+ year old films.
Putting a time limit on spoilers assumes that every person will be exposed to the same films at the same time. I'm 47 and I've never read or seen Charlotte's Web, so there's that.
John W Constantine
10-15-24, 02:10 PM
...and then what happened......?
Gideon58
10-15-24, 02:11 PM
80. The Band Wagon (1953) - Not really familiar with this one at all. I'll have to check it out one day.
79. Charlotte's Web (1973) - I'm familiar with this one - I've seen it half a dozen times or so I'd reckon, but the last time would have been long, long ago. Still, I can remember most of it pretty well. Am I too old now to break down in tears when Charlotte (SPOILERS!) dies? I do not know. Would it make me think twice about squishing that spider in the house? Depends. If I'm having a shower and a spider decides to try and share that intimate moment, it's getting squished and it's remains are going down the drain - otherwise, I might collect it and usher it outside. But back to the movie. Great animated musical, and a classic when I was a child - I probably saw it for the first time at school, and after that on video. I'm now old enough and well versed enough in pop culture to recognize the voice of Paul Lynde without having to be told it's him playing the part of rat Templeton. This didn't make my ballot. There's simply too many other musicals I love today for it to find a place, but if I were a young boy again, it would be getting votes from me.
Seen : 14/22
The Band Wagon is my favorite MGM musical, I was hoping it would rank a little higher than it did.
Gideon58
10-15-24, 02:15 PM
I watched Charlotte's Web in the Musical Group Watch...(more of you should've joined in!)...Glad it made the countdown:)
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse4.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.wfJFJYqgshJnFGr2MAvRlAAAAA%26pid%3DApi&f=1&ipt=f5215fe090528c9f3685947f708f110c805bfa28a4050e56325914d9b6414c3d&ipo=images
Charlotte's Web (1973)
I really enjoyed watching this one. It's such a heart felt story with lots of positivity. Yes, it's also bittersweet with Charlotte...and her story is handled so well that it's like a life lesson. People often talk about being moved by a movie and yet the same movie doesn't emotionally reach me at all. However Charlotte's Web did emotionally reach me and I was indeed moved by the story. During the movie I paused it to take a break and my wife tells me there's a bug in the closet. I look and see it's a little, light brownish spider, not unlike Charlotte. So I get a piece of paper and let the spider crawl onto the paper and I escort it outside, as I never kill spiders. Call me silly but that coincidences felt just a little bit magical to me and that's thanks to the movie...Great choice.
I liked Charlotte's Web but it wouldn't come close to making a top 25 musical list for me.
Citizen Rules
10-15-24, 02:35 PM
The Band Wagon is my favorite MGM musical, I was hoping it would rank a little higher than it did.It's a good thing you voted or The Band Wagon would've been even lower. I just watched it again last night and I'm even more impressed than I was eight years ago when I last watched it.
Gideon58
10-15-24, 02:41 PM
Citizen, you remember what I told you about submitting my top 25. I just looked at it again and The Band Wagon wasn't on it.
Gideon58
10-15-24, 02:43 PM
Doris Day and Bing Crosby both probably in the top 20 biggest entertainment stars of the century.
I'm pretty sure we're going to see at least two Doris Day musicals appear on this countdown before it's over and possibly one more Bing Crosby.
Gideon58
10-15-24, 02:46 PM
I saw Tommy many years ago, but I don't remember much about it except that I didn't like it. However my parents had the Captain Fantastic pinball machine with Elton John on the backglass, (but we sold it after my mom passed away a few years ago).
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I'm not much of an Elton John fan, but I watched Rocketman for the Group Watch and I liked it more than I thought I would, but not enough to consider it for my list.
I liked the 2021 version of West Side Story enough to consider it for my list, but ultimately, it didn't make the final cuts.
The first time I watched Begin Again, I thought it was just okay. I rewatched it for this countdown because a couple of people were recommending it, and I liked it a lot more on the second watch. It didn't make my list, but I'm glad that I gave it another chance.
I like Gold Diggers of 1933, and I considered it for my list, but with over 100 movies on my first draft list for this countdown, it was one of the early cuts. But I'm glad to see that it made the list without my help.
Anastasia is the first movie from my list to make the countdown. I love everything about it, especially the songs. I even have a little plush doll of Bartok the Bat that hangs upside-down. This is one of my favorite animated movies. It was #17 on my list.
I went with my mom to see Into the Woods on Broadway during its original theatrical run, and I loved it. I didn't know anything about it before seeing it. At the end of the first half, I thought it was great, but I also thought it was over. But then my mom reminded me that that was only the first half. The second half was much darker than the first half, but it was twisted and fun.
However after seeing the Broadway show, the movie just didn't live up to it. The movie was good, but it paled in comparison to the show. I don't think it would have made my list even if I hadn't seen the Broadway show, but having seen it, the movie just didn't stand a chance.
For anyone who wants to see the Broadway version, it aired on PBS, and it's available on DVD. It's also on YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuCvRicJISU
Gigi is one of those movies where the music is better than the movie. I love the soundtrack, but the movie is only okay.
Calamity Jane is one of the movies that was a difficult cut from my list. I'm a big fan of Doris Day, I love the movie and the music, but I just couldn't find room for it on my list. It was Warner Bros. answer to MGM's movie Annie Get Your Gun, (which I also love). I really wanted to include it on my list, but I just didn't have room for it. I'm very happy to see that it made the list without my help.
I didn't think I had ever heard of The Burden, but I watched the video that someone posted earlier in this thread and I realized that I've seen it. I probably watched it for something here on MoFo, but I don't remember what. All I remember is thinking that it was a very strange short.
White Christmas is another movie that I love, but it was a difficult cut from my list. When we started this countdown, I was pretty sure that it would make my list, but somehow I just couldn't find room for it. I'm glad to see it made the list, but I'm very surprised to see it this low.
I saw Purple Rain many years ago, and I like a few of the songs on the soundtrack, but I'm not a fan of the movie.
Would love to see both Tommy and Rocketman make this list.
honeykid
10-15-24, 02:49 PM
No more of mine, but I really like Charlotte's Web. The book is great and one of the few fictional books I liked as a child and, I probably should've voted for this just on the strength of that alone, but I didn't. I probably prefer the 2006 adaptation, but I've not seen the 73 version for about 30 years, so I can't be completely sure about that.
Holden Pike
10-15-24, 02:50 PM
Would love to see both Tommy and Rocketman make this list.
Ummmmm, they both DID make the list at #92 (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2495464#post2495464) and #91 (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2495467#post2495467).
Since Gideon has blocked me and does not see my posts at all, somebody let him know. He'll be so happy!
Citizen Rules
10-15-24, 02:52 PM
I wish I would've voted for The Band Wagon but I didn't remember how good it was until I seen it again last night. Vincent Minnelli might just be my favorite auteur director, love his set designs and color schemes and the look of his films. Loved the musical numbers too especially Girl Hunt with it's modernistic jazz dancing which to me looks like a Fosse number, though it's not of course, it's Michael Kid doing the choreography.
Girl Hunt number from The Band Wagon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8QmkDzD8Sk
John W Constantine
10-15-24, 02:56 PM
Since Gideon has blocked me and does not see my posts at all, somebody let him know. He'll be so happy!
"What'd you do?!" as Chris Farley once said.
Thursday Next
10-15-24, 02:56 PM
4lists51pointsEaster Parade (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/29380-easter-parade.html)Director
Charles Walters, 1948
Starring
Judy Garland, Fred Astaire, Peter Lawford, Ann Miller
Thursday Next
10-15-24, 02:56 PM
6lists52pointsFunny Girl (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/16085-funny-girl.html)Director
William Wyler, 1968
Starring
Barbra Streisand, Omar Sharif, Kay Medford, Anne Francis
Miss Vicky
10-15-24, 02:59 PM
I haven't seen either of today's movies.
Holden Pike
10-15-24, 03:00 PM
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Easter Parade was #88 on the MoFo Top 100 of the 1940s. It is only the second title so far, joining Amadeus (#97), to have previously appeared on another official MoFo List.
Haven't seen either Easter Parade or Funny Girl. Maybe by the time we reboot this in 2044.
I've seen both Easter Parade and Funny Girl and rated them each a 7/10. I like them, but they couldn't make my ballot.
Seen: 23/24
Thursday Next
10-15-24, 03:05 PM
I've seen both, but I'm struggling to remember much about Easter Parade.
Thursday Next
10-15-24, 03:07 PM
Easter Parade was #88 on the MoFo Top 100 of the 1940s. It is only the second title so far, joining Amadeus (#97), to have previously appeared on another official MoFo List.
Charlotte's Web was on the animated list at #57
Holden Pike
10-15-24, 03:14 PM
Somehow I didn't think that was an official MoFo List, but yes, three. Out of twenty-four.
Citizen Rules
10-15-24, 03:15 PM
Easter Parade (1948) was a shoe in for my ballot when the Musical Countdown was announced. I tried really hard to rewatch the movies I was considering for my ballot and I did rewatch Easter Parade before voting. I still really liked it but it didn't end up making my ballot. Glad it made the countdown.
I previously wrote this:
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia-cache-ak0.pinimg.com%2F736x%2F93%2F0e%2F35%2F930e355499e58bdff53ed01c5aa619bf.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=c29890925979c33eb219e6f421311215ea7d2bb6ab1bdd6f8516c4ccf24d6036&ipo=images
Easter Parade (1948)
Easter Parade's strength is in it's 18 Irving Berlin songs, not all are done as full numbers. My favorites were the opening number with a happy Fred Astaire walking down a New York Street circa 1912. Fred is shopping for his lady friend and dance partner played by Ann Miller. The song he festively sings is Happy Easter...I loved the part where he's in a ladies hat store warmly greeting the hat models, it's so uplifting...the big highlight comes next with a musical dance number called Drum Crazy.
Judy Garland plays the new dance partner to replace Fred's previous partner who left him for the glitter of the stage lights. Nobody sings like Judy and she has a number of songs as you would expect, most are light and upbeat.
I loved this, though what keeps it from being a 5/5 is that I didn't really sense the romantic chemistry between Astaire and Garland. Originally this was to have been a Gene Kelly and Cyd Charisse pairing, but Gene broke an ankle and Cyd tore a ligament in her knee, ouch.
rating_4
Citizen Rules
10-15-24, 03:24 PM
Funny Girl (1968) was #21 on my ballot.
https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=38182&stc=1&d=1511057595
Funny Girl (1968)
I love that photo of Barbra Streisand! It says so much about her and the character she plays. It was her first movie and she scored an Oscar for Best Actress in a Leading Role. Not too shabby. Before the movie Babs was a Broadway sensation in the stage play Funny Girl. So when acclaimed director William Wyler decided to make a big budget, sweeping story of the life and times of Fanny Brice, Barbra was a natural and of course she could sing!
Streisand does sing a few songs in the movie, but it's not the typical musical, it's more of a comedy drama. I thought Barbra was great in this, she looked great, she was funny, personable, kooky. She had her own style and the camera really likes her. She paired well with leading man Omar Sharif too.
The amount of period piece sets and costumes that went into this 2 1/2 half hour movie is a thing of wonderment. Funny Girl is really a top notch production with great visual appeal and great attention to details. Lavish is the best word for it.
rating_4
Haven't seen any of today's entries.
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MY BALLOT: 1/25
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Gideon58
10-15-24, 04:09 PM
Love, love, love both Funny Girl and Easter Parade...number of times I've seen both films easily enters double digits. I have to admit I kind of expected Funny Girl to rate a little higher.
MovieMeditation
10-15-24, 04:09 PM
As per my past many posts in here…….
seen neither.
rauldc14
10-15-24, 04:51 PM
Seen Funny Girl. It's decent.
Not watched Easter Parade yet.
beelzebubble
10-15-24, 05:59 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_r_dWenKhk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AitzdfAcCg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bfPwtUTP4k
I love Puddles Pity Party!
SpelingError
10-15-24, 06:09 PM
I haven't seen either film once again :(
cricket
10-15-24, 06:11 PM
Had 2 Parades on my watchlist for this countdown, I got to Footlight but couldn't make it to Easter. It's tragic.
I've seen Funny Girl and the only reason I know that is because I have it crossed off the existing musicals list.
Robert the List
10-15-24, 06:12 PM
2 big films.
Think I'm right in saying Funny Girl is known for a superb performance by Streisand and not much else?
dadgumblah
10-15-24, 09:45 PM
Easter Parade is my #6 and I'm so glad to see it here! "Steppin' Out With My Baby" is my favorite number in the film, with fast Fred going into slow motion while the dancers behind him remain in normal motion, and we get to see all of Fred's moves and cane twirls, etc. Just a phenomenon! "A Couple of Swells" is great fun with Judy and Fred playing bums among the hoi polloi and being hilarious even while they sing. The title song is classic and originally came from another film on my list, which probably won't make it. Love this movie.
Funny Girl is great fun but, strangely enough, I like the sequel, Funny Lady, with James Caan as Streisand's leading man, even better. Still, I can see why it's held in such high regard. Neither of the "Funny" girl/lady films made my list.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g742gWRA8E
So far:
#1. On the Town #93 (list proper)
#6. Easter Parade #78 (list proper)
#10. Gigi #85 (list proper)
#12. Calamity Jane #84 (list proper)
#25. Neptune's Daughter (one-pointer).
Citizen Rules
10-15-24, 09:51 PM
Easter Parade...The title song is classic and originally came from another film on my list, which probably won't make it. Love this movie.
I think I know what movie you mean and it's on my list too. Fingers crossed that it makes it but it's iffy.
beelzebubble
10-15-24, 10:17 PM
2 big films.
Think I'm right in saying Funny Girl is known for a superb performance by Streisand and not much else?
I think you are thinking of Funny Lady.
stillmellow
10-15-24, 10:33 PM
I love Puddles Pity Party!
Yes! He's always dynamite.
dadgumblah
10-15-24, 11:00 PM
I think I know what movie you mean and it's on my list too. Fingers crossed that it makes it but it's iffy.
For whatever reason, messaging won't let me reply to you. So, I'll just say, cool! And I have that certain film on DVD in b&w. 👍
Gideon58
10-15-24, 11:21 PM
Easter Parade is my #6 and I'm so glad to see it here! "Steppin' Out With My Baby" is my favorite number in the film, with fast Fred going into slow motion while the dancers behind him remain in normal motion, and we get to see all of Fred's moves and cane twirls, etc. Just a phenomenon! "A Couple of Swells" is great fun with Judy and Fred playing bums among the hoi polloi and being hilarious even while they sing. The title song is classic and originally came from another film on my list, which probably won't make it. Love this movie.
Funny Girl is great fun but, strangely enough, I like the sequel, Funny Lady, with James Caan as Streisand's leading man, even better. Still, I can see why it's held in such high regard. Neither of the "Funny" girl/lady films made my list.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g742gWRA8E
So far:
#1. On the Town #93 (list proper)
#6. Easter Parade #78 (list proper)
#10. Gigi #85 (list proper)
#12. Calamity Jane #84 (list proper)
#25. Neptune's Daughter (one-pointer).
Nice to see some love for Funny Lady. I think the movie gets a bad rap and is not nearly as bad as its reputation.
John W Constantine
10-15-24, 11:52 PM
Purple Rain...I seen this once when it came out and I thought it was pretty cool and liked the music too. But I haven't seen it 40 years! Glad it made the countdown.
We used to jam out to his greatest hits at a restaurant I worked at years ago and I kind of warmed up to a small portion of his music and still enjoy it. So the fact that I watched this for the first time today was shocking to me. It's shaky in places through out but the music and just seeing Prince as a main attraction in a 80s movie none the less was enough to keep me engaged. They also managed to slip in a story about a father and a son that caught me off guard and paid it off with a great performance of the title track. Good to see Morris Day and Apollonia was very easy on the eyes.
PHOENIX74
10-15-24, 11:54 PM
78. Easter Parade (1948) - The older musicals are dominating here! I have only one film on my list that's pre-1961 (one that's going to show up perhaps in the top 10) but I've seen a few older musicals. I've seen Easter Parade, and I loved it. Wrote this on Letterboxd : "The technicolor filming process makes Easter Parade look extremely beautiful - every frame seems to please the eye like nothing else in cinematic history - and the music and songs are catchy and fine. Of course, like in Funny Face 9 years later Fred Astaire's love interest in Judy Garland is over two decades his junior and he's twice her age. Gene Kelly was originally cast, but he broke his ankle and had to be substituted. Judy Garland looks good in this, and she doesn't seem as ravaged by booze, drugs and hard work as she does in later years. By 1948 however, she'd already had a slew of abortions, a nervous breakdown, a suicide attempt, a failed marriage (she was already into a second, troubled marriage to Vincente Minnelli), and had been a star for a decade. It was around this time the drug taking started, and over the next couple of decades (leading to her untimely death) she'd age at double the rate. You wouldn't know it by watching her in this - and the film's two stars sing and dance in style. I love those long shots, where in my head (and as Astaire dances a complicated routine) I watch and think, "It's still going....it's still going..." until eventually there's a cut." I'll have to put it on again one day soon. Not on my list though - a rewatch might have brought it close.
77. Funny Girl (1968) - Aww - for a moment I thought that was Funny Face, which I've seen. I haven't seen Funny Girl, so I don't have anything to say about it. I'm not a big Barbara Streisand fan.
Seen : 15/24
While we wait, here is one of my favorite numbers from The Band Wagon...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gbb4kEk3NbQ
Someone posted one of the numbers from the last act, the noir-inspired one, which is a great one... but this is the one that won me over. This one and the iconic "That's Entertainment" one.
iluv2viddyfilms
10-16-24, 02:26 PM
Easter Parade is my #6 and I'm so glad to see it here! "Steppin' Out With My Baby" is my favorite number in the film, with fast Fred going into slow motion while the dancers behind him remain in normal motion, and we get to see all of Fred's moves and cane twirls, etc. Just a phenomenon! "A Couple of Swells" is great fun with Judy and Fred playing bums among the hoi polloi and being hilarious even while they sing. The title song is classic and originally came from another film on my list, which probably won't make it. Love this movie.
You're welcome. It was my number 21.
I just love how they slowed down Fred Astaire in "Steppin' Out With My Baby" and also you're right about the "A Couple of Swells" being wonderful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3aUAiLU0TI
John W Constantine
10-16-24, 03:02 PM
any more movies today?
honeykid
10-16-24, 03:08 PM
Seen neither. Wish to see neither. I also never understood the love for Babs. :shrug:
Thursday Next
10-16-24, 03:41 PM
7lists52points42nd Street (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/3062-42nd-street.html)Director
Lloyd Bacon, 1933
Starring
Warner Baxter, Bebe Daniels, George Brent, Ruby Keeler
Thursday Next
10-16-24, 03:42 PM
7lists52pointsThe King and I (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/16520-the-king-and-i.html)Director
Walter Lang, 1956
Starring
Deborah Kerr, Yul Brynner, Rita Moreno, Martin Benson
Got nothing with these two...
SEEN: 5/26
MY BALLOT: 1/25
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Thursday Next
10-16-24, 03:47 PM
Both of these had 52 points from 7 lists, but The King and I scored a 6th place nomination while 42nd Street's highest placing was 13th.
Miss Vicky
10-16-24, 03:47 PM
I haven't seen either of today's movies. I'm also really losing hope for some of my picks. :(
Thursday Next
10-16-24, 03:51 PM
I have seen both of these but neither of tomorrow's. Not sure that quite counts as a hint.
John W Constantine
10-16-24, 03:58 PM
spoilers.
stillmellow
10-16-24, 04:30 PM
The only one of the past 4 I've seen is Easter Parade, and I thought it was alright, but not on my list.
Over the years, I've heard more complaints about Funny Girl than any other Streisand movie, but that's all I know about it.
Seen: 13 out of 26
List: 0
Should've been on list: 1 (the Burden)
Robert the List
10-16-24, 04:55 PM
Agh man, The King and I 75th?
What kind of poll is this??
John-Connor
10-16-24, 05:04 PM
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It's been a while since I've seen The King and I but remember loving it. Probably would have made my 25 had I rewatched it in time. Glad to see it made the list. 👍 Only seen bits and pieces of 42nd Street so can't count it as seen.
SEEN 10/24
BALLOT 2/25
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stillmellow
10-16-24, 05:12 PM
Agh man, The King and I 75th?
What kind of poll is this??
Eh.... hasn't aged the best. The King is a brutal dictator, who murders and tortures, and at least 1 of his wives is there against his will, making him a rapist as well. Also a lot of this is to make his culture appear "savage", while white culture is portrayed as the "correct" one.
Yes, he becomes a better person through his friendship with the heroine. And the musical numbers are quite good, but it's still a problematic story.
KeyserCorleone
10-16-24, 05:19 PM
The King and I was my #19. It's a childhood favorite, although as a kid I used to love the animated one as well.
Citizen Rules
10-16-24, 05:27 PM
Woohoo! Two more great and old musicals! I love it:p Both were last minute cuts as my ballot was way too full. But love both of these movies and rewatched them recently.
Previously I wrote this:
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42nd Street (1933)
Directed by Lloyd 'bring home the' Bacon
Musical numbers staged by Busby 'show me more leg' Berkeley
This is the 1st musical in a series of musicals done by Warner Bros. with Busby Berkeley creating the magical musical sequences. And let's be honest, without Busby's vision no one would care about this film. The movie is a behind the scenes look at a Broadway play being staged by a hard driven director who wants to make just one more show before his poor health sidelines him. 42nd Street features brand spanking new and wide eyed, Ruby Keeler as the chorus girl who's told by the director, 'You're going out a youngster but you've got to come back a star!' Which is one of the most famous quotes from a movie.
To be honest Ruby Keeler really can't act in this, can't sing and yet she was an instant sensation and starred in a number of musicals through out the 1930s. I like her for her youthful charm and exuberance, she's fun to watch and in her future movies she does get better. Much later in life Ruby Keeler said this about her surprise stardom of the 1930s.
It's really amazing. I couldn't act. I had that terrible singing voice, and now I can see I wasn't the greatest tap dancer in the world, either.
Gotta love Ruby for her down to earth honesty.
Best musical number is Shuffle Off to Buffalo. Love the double entendres and the flip counter lyrics sung by a humorously jaded Ginger Rogers and Una Merkel...Oh and what happens to the train is a hoot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqYkXQZAhTo
Robert the List
10-16-24, 05:33 PM
Eh.... hasn't aged the best. The King is a brutal dictator, who murders and tortures, and at least 1 of his wives is there against his will, making him a rapist as well. Also a lot of this is to make his culture appear "savage", while white culture is portrayed as the "correct" one.
Yes, he becomes a better person through his friendship with the heroine. And the musical numbers are quite good, but it's still a problematic story.
"The King is a brutal dictator"
The country's system of government is monarchist.
I saw no evidence of him being brutal.
"who murders and tortures"
I saw no evidence of this.
"and at least 1 of his wives is there against his will, making him a rapist as well."
I saw no evidence of this. A wife was given to him as a present.
I thought this was a nice gesture.
I think I'm right in saying that she went back to her boyfriend anyway?
"Also a lot of this is to make his culture appear "savage", while white culture is portrayed as the "correct" one."
I honestly didn't get that vibe.
"Yes, he becomes a better person through his friendship with the heroine."
I liked the King more than I liked the female character personally.
Sorry you didn't like it, and I respect and appreciate alternative points of view.
Citizen Rules
10-16-24, 05:43 PM
Sorry this is so long! But I'm a big fan of The King and I, I also liked the non musical Anna and the King.
Previously I wrote:
https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=31668&stc=1&d=1498014259
The King and I (1956)
About: In the 1860s a British school teacher and widow, agrees to travel to exotic Siam (Thailand) to teach the King's many children.
Based on the successful Broadway musical written by Richard Rodgers and Oscar Hammerstein, that featured Yul Brynner in the lead role. That play was originally based on a novel: Anna and the King of Siam by Margaret Landon, which in turn was based on the real diaries of Anna Leonowens who did indeed traveled to Siam as a school teacher.
I just love this movie! It's wonderful...It's intelligently written by one of the truly great Hollywood screen writers, Ernest Lehman. Lehman's volume of great movies include:
Hello, Dolly!
Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?
The Sound of Music
West Side Story
From the Terrace
North by Northwest
Sweet Smell of Success
Sabrina
The script is the life blood of a movie and The King and I pulsates with life! It's witty, it's charming, and it explores many different themes without being obvious. Of course the real stars of the movie is
Yul Brynner and Deborah Kerr. Have there ever been two more inspired performances which are so in tune with each other and the story, that you forget you're watching a movie.
Yul owned the role of the King, it's hard to believe anyone else could do that role. He's forceful, he's powerful and yet he's curious and not quite as forbidding as he might seem. Thanks to Yul making the King human, we can see more than meets the eye.
https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=31670&stc=1&d=1498014273
Deborah Kerr has never shined more than here, she seems to be truly enjoying herself and that joy comes through the screen to us. She has great charm and poise. She's strong yet feminine.
A young Rita Moreno, has a plum role as Tuptim the Burmese slave girl brought against her will to the palace of the King of Siam. Her story line is in many ways what this film is about.
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And those sets! Anna is decked out in those giant hoop dresses which the director puts to good use in the film. I love the way her skirt swirls when she dances and spreads out on the floor like a giant umbrella when she sets down. All the colors and the fabrics shine in the glorious palace sets, this is a visual treat!
https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=31672&stc=1&d=1498014286
Ahhh...the music! What wonderful songs we have from the greatest song writing team to work on stage and movies, Richard Rodgers and Oscar Hammerstein. Getting to Know You is the signature song from the movie.
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My favorite number was the ballet style The Small House of Uncle Thomas, it's a beautiful yet simply retelling of the classic American novel Uncle Tom's Cabin...it's told from the viewpoint of a Burmese slave woman running away from the Kingdom of Siam. It combines both traditionally Thai and Asian dance movements with modern choreography. There's nothing else like it.
I'd give The King and I Ten Stars if I could.
rating_5+++
stillmellow
10-16-24, 06:40 PM
"The King is a brutal dictator"
The country's system of government is monarchist.
I saw no evidence of him being brutal.
"who murders and tortures"
I saw no evidence of this.
"and at least 1 of his wives is there against his will, making him a rapist as well."
I saw no evidence of this. A wife was given to him as a present.
I thought this was a nice gesture.
I think I'm right in saying that she went back to her boyfriend anyway?
"Also a lot of this is to make his culture appear "savage", while white culture is portrayed as the "correct" one."
I honestly didn't get that vibe.
"Yes, he becomes a better person through his friendship with the heroine."
I liked the King more than I liked the female character personally.
Sorry you didn't like it, and I respect and appreciate alternative points of view.
To be fair, a lot of the cruelest things his were only implied, and/or were things he was 'about to do', but convinced not to at the last minute.
A lot of it is up to interpretation, EXCEPT how does receiving a woman as a present absolve him of owning sex slaves?
I haven't seen these two either, but I promise I have seen at least 25 musicals.
stillmellow
10-16-24, 06:42 PM
I guess I'm mostly trying to say the tone was very inconsistent, and the King's redemption was earned far too easily.
Robert the List
10-16-24, 06:51 PM
To be fair, a lot of the cruelest things his were only implied, and/or were things he was 'about to do', but convinced not to at the last minute.
A lot of it is up to interpretation, EXCEPT how does receiving a woman as a present absolve him of owning sex slaves?
I don't know the details of his encounters and relationships with his gifts.
If he pressured or coerced them into sex against their will (as opposed to their consent), then whilst technically that might or might not be rape, I would of course very strongly disapprove of it.
But we don't know that that's the case. He struck me as being a fairly considerate fairly gentlemanly, well natured kind of guy/King.
Maybe for some they were happy to please him in return for the associated benefits. But if others were not then I hope they spoke up.
Regardless, he struck me as being more likely to do crosswords in his slippers with his wives, than bend them over the gold washbasins.
I don't know.
Of course I strongly disapprove of sex slaves. She was still a lovely present though, and I personally think we owe him the benefit of the doubt.
MovieMeditation
10-16-24, 06:57 PM
Seen both!
Just kidding, seen neither.
stillmellow
10-16-24, 07:07 PM
I don't know the details of his encounters and relationships with his gifts.
It's not possible for a slave and a slave owner to have consensual sex. Because one of the two people is legally considered the property of the other. Even if the sex isn't violent, it doesn't change the fact that the slave isn't allowed to say no.
I'm just going to go on the record as saying 'portraying slave owners in a positive light' is always going to be problematic. ESPECIALLY if sex is involved.
Citizen Rules
10-16-24, 07:12 PM
PLEASE, let's drop this conversation before Yoda comes in and has to lock the thread.
Miss Vicky
10-16-24, 07:14 PM
A wife was given to him as a present. I thought this was a nice gesture.
Ew.
John W Constantine
10-16-24, 07:17 PM
We've never had a countdown thread locked before. Sounds kinky.
stillmellow
10-16-24, 07:18 PM
Ew.
We can hang out.
Robert the List
10-16-24, 07:20 PM
I probably shouldn't have treated such a serious subject in a light hearted and flippant manner. Apologies.
I guess these are valid questions to consider, even if it might not have been apparent in the 1950s and I don't think this was intended to be analysed in this way.
Maybe we could discuss it further (if at all) in another thread? Personally I find these philosophical kind of discussions quite thought provoking.
For avoidance of any doubt, I abhor sexual slavery, coercion, controlling behaviour and the like in real life.
cricket
10-16-24, 07:48 PM
42nd Street is the 3rd from my ballot
I didn't hate The King and I, but I wouldn't say I liked it either
5. Charlotte's Web (#79)
17. Calamity Jane (#84)
25. 42nd Street (#76)
mrblond
10-16-24, 07:57 PM
#81- Purple Rain (1984)
Saw it once sometime in mid nineties. Meh, a great guitar solo and a ton of kitsch...
#75 - The King and I (1956)
Many years ago, I was surprised to learn that my early favorite Yul Brynner had an Oscar for a role in some strange movie. On top of everything, this summer, I've learned that it is a musical. So, I saw it for this countdown.
It turned to be an offensive political commission, mockery with Siam and UK to entertain the masses. How pity... :tsk:
Robert the List
10-16-24, 08:08 PM
My favorite number was the ballet style The Small House of Uncle Thomas, it's a beautiful yet simply retelling of the classic American novel Uncle Tom's Cabin...it's told from the viewpoint of a Burmese slave woman running away from the Kingdom of Siam. It combines both traditionally Thai and Asian dance movements with modern choreography. There's nothing else like it.
I'd give The King and I Ten Stars if I could.
rating_5+++
The Uncle Tom's Cabin segment is absolutely stunning.
rauldc14
10-16-24, 08:14 PM
42nd Street was my number 17! Really dug it.
Never got to The King and I although I wanted to.
Seen both, but neither made my ballot.
Seen: 25/26
Citizen Rules
10-16-24, 08:38 PM
42nd Street was my number 17! Really dug it.
That surprises me. But very cool!
Agh man, The King and I 75th?
What kind of poll is this??
It's gonna be an interesting one for sure. I would have had both of these in the top-50 in my wildest imagination of how low they could go.
Eh.... hasn't aged the best. The King is a brutal dictator, who murders and tortures, and at least 1 of his wives is there against his will, making him a rapist as well. Also a lot of this is to make his culture appear "savage", while white culture is portrayed as the "correct" one.
Yes, he becomes a better person through his friendship with the heroine. And the musical numbers are quite good, but it's still a problematic story.
That's because it's a true story?
stillmellow
10-16-24, 09:52 PM
New topic! CHICAGO! What a great movie! Where you think it'll fall in the top 100?
I'm going to say around #35.
stillmellow
10-16-24, 09:52 PM
(Super subtle topic change!)
Citizen Rules
10-16-24, 09:58 PM
It's gonna be an interesting one for sure. I would have had both of these in the top-50 in my wildest imagination of how low they could go.I was all excited to see yesterday and today's classic musicals, but come to think of it, you're right they are low on the countdown, which then makes me think just what the heck is the top 25 going to look like??? (that was one long run-on sentence)
New topic! CHICAGO! What a great movie! Where you think it'll fall in the top 100?
I'm going to say around #35.You're probably right. I'm thinking newer musicals will dominate the upper part of the countdown, to me newer is anything made after the 1980s:eek::p
SpelingError
10-16-24, 10:27 PM
42nd Street is very good, but it didn't make my ballot.
I haven't seen The King and I.
beelzebubble
10-16-24, 11:02 PM
Where did I leave off? Okay, I have seen everything that has been mentioned since Gigi (which was on my list) except The Burden, which can be rectified quickly. Only Funny Girl is on my list. I had to pick at least one Streisand musical.
Fun fact, Calamity Jane was embraced by lesbians when It came out. It is one of those movies that was considered to be coded gay and especially the song Secret Love. I love Doris Day and I meant to have at least one of her musicals on my list but I did not.
White Christmas is not on my list, but it is my favorite Danny Kaye musical as an adult. Before that I loved him in Hans Christian Andersen which was on every year when I was a child in the Sixties.
I didn’t like Purple Rain, the movie. Of course, I did love the music and I especially liked Morris Day’s performance.
The Bandwagon is not a favorite of mine. The set pieces are great but the story is too loose for me.
As for Charlotte’s Web, Paul Lynde was hilarious as Templeton.
I love Easter Parade, it should have been on my list.
I haven’t seen 42nd St. in ages so its not on my list, but I am a Dick Powell fan. He is in one of my favorite noirs.
The King and I is great and I wish it was on my list. It is Yul Brynner’s iconic role. And the whole thing is dazzling. Too the young people in our forum, you really need a broader historical perspective. Women in the Siam of that time, were chattel. In the United States, women have only had the vote for a little over a century. You are living in a very new world that is in tremendous flux.
stillmellow
10-17-24, 12:39 AM
CHICAGO! I'm focusing on talking about Chicago.
He Had It Coming was definitely the best number, although We Both Reached for the Gun is a strong second.
Join me in talking about Chicago!
dadgumblah
10-17-24, 12:40 AM
Whoa, my internet/cable was down all day or I would have been on here much earlier. In fact, I was on here when it when down and we were texted that it would not be up till 9:00 pm then 11:00 pm! Well, it hit somewhere in-between so there's that. I'm just happy we didn't bundle our phone with our services. Even so, the phone was acting wonky. But anyway, I digress.
42nd Street is grand fun. I love all these spectacles, with the mix-and-match casts that usually has Dick Powell and Ruby Keeler at least in there. And the beautiful Ginger Rogers and sometimes Joan Blondell. And Ned Sparks. Love that guy, the eternal grump. I didn't include it, though.
I haven't watched The King and I in a long time but I really enjoyed it. Yul Brynner deserved his Oscar for this film. And Deborah Kerr is lovely as can be here. I currently have the non-musical version from 1946 that stars Rex Harrison and Irene Dunne. I haven't seen it yet but I'm looking forward to it. I was lucky enough to see the stage musical starring Stacy Keach (one of my favorite actors) and It was great. So all kinds of connections to this classic. Need to see it again. Not on my list. I'm glad to see both made it.
So far:
#1. On the Town #93 (list proper)
#6. Easter Parade #78 (list proper)
#10. Gigi #85 (list proper)
#12. Calamity Jane #84 (list proper)
#25. Neptune's Daughter (one-pointer).
I was all excited to see yesterday and today's classic musicals, but come to think of it, you're right they are low on the countdown, which then makes me think just what the heck is the top 25 going to look like??? (that was one long run-on sentence)
You're probably right. I'm thinking newer musicals will dominate the upper part of the countdown, to me newer is anything made after the 1980s:eek::p
I think it's gonna lean heavily into animated films, honestly, maybe a couple very contemporary ones, with jukebox "musicals" and movies that have music performed in them but not in the way traditional musicals do, pretty evenly split with traditional musicals.
Also, same. To me, Grease is a pretty modern musical. ;)
stillmellow
10-17-24, 12:41 AM
(And not anything that would cause the thread to melt down to everyone yelling at each other.)
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CHICAGO! I'm focusing on talking about Chicago.
He Had It Coming was definitely the best number, although We Both Reached for the Gun is a strong second.
Join me in talking about Chicago!
I would like to but I was a bit underwhelmed by Chicago. I think probably it was just Marshall's, to me, very modern style.
stillmellow
10-17-24, 01:13 AM
I would like to but I was a bit underwhelmed by Chicago. I think probably it was just Marshall's, to me, very modern style.
SPOILER: It's on my list, but not on the top half. If we were only judging the musical numbers alone, and not the movie as a whole, it'd be in my top 4.
I agree many parts of it couldn't been done better.
PHOENIX74
10-17-24, 03:52 AM
Seen both of these two, voted for neither...
76. 42nd Street (1933) - Hoping this might have come in at number 42, but not for any other reason than being able to type "42. 42nd Street". When I watched this I was surprised at how similar it was to Gold Diggers of 1933, which I'd seen first. Maybe not quite as funny, but I thought the musical numbers in this were better - ending up with the huge stage production where the title song is sung. I watched it because I wanted to broaden my knowledge as far as musicals go - you can't go much farther back before the lack of sound in films meant they couldn't be musicals.
75. The King and I (1956) - I have to admit to having been blown away by this when I saw it - the whole "Shall We Dance?" number is fantastic and I watched it another half dozen times I was so taken by it. I wrote on Letterboxd : "The King and I, powered as much by an all-out performance of incredible magnitude by Yul Brynner, has the music, sets and costumes to make an impact already - but it's just such a cinematically astute version of the Rodgers and Hammerstein musical. It's everything, and everything leads up to that pivotal and very famous moment when the King of Siam dances with Anna (Deborah Kerr) in a golden palatial room to the strains of "Shall We Dance" - a moment often highlighted in "history of cinema" montages. There are moments that had my jaw dropping - such as the adapted Uncle Tom's Cabin (Small House of Uncle Thomas), which becomes a play with unforgettable artistic invention - a must see for anyone who loves to be dazzled and enchanted. Did it have to break my heart as well? It had my heart by that stage, after what felt like an inauspicious start - and I never expected to be as captivated as I was. I don't know if it mattered what songs were sung - the performances (again - Brynner's is outstanding) and sentiment suited me fine. The art direction and set decoration were out of this world.
But then, we have to talk about the fact that the West was "civilised" and that the King of Siam is immediately, consistently and always looked upon as some kind of barbarian and beneath us. Sometimes the Siamese are treated as fools - and much is made of their reluctance to acknowledge the world as not being flat and not being carried around on the back of a giant turtle. A lot is made of polygamy and Western culture. But hell, this was made in the mid-1950s, and is set in the early 1860s. I just thought that the best of this film took me right out of the politics, cultural sensibility and lack of progressive foresight. The King and I had led up to the scenes which were it's crowning glory in it's own timely fashion to catch me off guard - and I loved it." Now - that's a lot, but I really loved The King and I - it was certainly in contention for my list, and was on it and off it at one stage. A shame to have had to leave it off.
Seen : 17/26
Holden Pike
10-17-24, 09:40 AM
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42nd Street was #41 on the MoFo Top 100 of the 1930s.
I haven't seen 42nd Street, but as most of you know, that dance number was heavily "parodied" or "homaged" in The Big Lebowski.
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John W Constantine
10-17-24, 02:32 PM
Any movies today?
Thursday Next
10-17-24, 03:16 PM
5lists57pointsWalk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/6575-walk-hard-the-dewey-cox-story.html)Director
Jake Kasdan, 2007
Starring
John C. Reilly, Jenna Fischer, Raymond J. Barry, Kristen Wiig
Thursday Next
10-17-24, 03:17 PM
3lists58pointsEveryone Says I Love You (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/9716-everyone-says-i-love-you.html)Director
Woody Allen, 1996
Starring
Drew Barrymore, Edward Norton, Alan Alda, Julia Roberts
Citizen Rules
10-17-24, 03:24 PM
Not seen either but I would like to see the Woody Allen musical, Everyone Says I Love You...Can't say I've heard much about it though.
Citizen Rules
10-17-24, 03:25 PM
Any movies today?Yes.
Still drawing blanks. I've heard good things about Dewey Cox, but I still haven't gotten to it. As for Everyone Says I Love You, I'm not a big Woody Allen guy, so I haven't bothered. Didn't even like Annie Hall, so :shrug:
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Miss Vicky
10-17-24, 03:29 PM
I like the music in Walk Hard (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2477204#post2477204), but find the movie to be painfully unfunny. I haven't seen Everyone Says I Love You.
The 5-point gap between yesterday's The King and I and today's Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story is the biggest one so far. So far, we've had 8 ties, but as we get down the list, this separation will keep growing.
Everyone Says I Love You has one of the lowest IMDb scores at 6.7. It is just above Into the Woods (5.9), and both Gigi and Tommy (6.6).
mrblond
10-17-24, 03:36 PM
Not seen either but I would like to see the Woody Allen musical, Everyone Says I Love You...Can't say I've heard much about it though.
I hope you remember that you had it in your preparation thread:
https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2474792#post2474792
I saw Walk Hard at the theatre when it first came out and enjoyed it. The songs are great, the performances are wonderfu and I thought it was quite funny. There wasn't room on my ballot for it though, but I'm glad it made the countdown. Eeryone Says I Love You is a very good Woody Allen musical that I like a lot, but it didn't make my ballot either.
Seen: 27/28
Citizen Rules
10-17-24, 03:47 PM
I hope you remember that you had it in your preparation thread:
https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2474792#post2474792Yeah, sorry I didn't get to that one. But at least it made the countdown.
John W Constantine
10-17-24, 03:50 PM
Yes.
Sweet.
beelzebubble
10-17-24, 04:07 PM
I haven't seen either of these movies.
I lost interest in Woody Allen after Manhattan. Though I did really like that one with Cate Blanchett as the social climber on the down-a-later.
exiler96
10-17-24, 04:28 PM
I'm Guilty as chaaaarge...for voting for that movie!
I haven't seen either of these, so here's a muscial number about how I feel when haven't done something yet (but I could if I wanted to):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUuU99c_9mY
Holden Pike
10-17-24, 04:37 PM
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Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story is a spoof of music biopics, most specifically Walk the Line (#95). If you know the general tenor and template of biopics of famous musicians there are so many gags at the expense of that formula, and if you have seen Walk the Line they are spot on and hysterical. Raymond J. Barry ("Justified") plays the disapproving father with the oft-repeated tagline "The wrong kid died!", bandmate Tim Meadows has a recurring gag about halfheartedly warning our hero off of the next vice his journey is about to tempt him with, and he comes into contact with other legendary musicians along the way including Elvis (Jack White), Buddy Holly (Frankie Munez), and The Beatles (Jack Black, Paul Rudd, Justin Long, and Jason Schwartzman). But it is good ol' John C. Reilly who gets to shine at the center as Dewey Cox. Some very funny songs perfectly punctuate this on pitch satire. It was my number twenty-five pick, and I am happy and shocked that four other MoFos had it much higher on their ballots!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2lhQCxKx_Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vIAZfXh-F8
That makes two of mine, thus far.
HOLDEN’S BALLOT
17. Amadeus (#97)
25. Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story (#74)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GngVpF2KK1o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAoEquQCtUM
KeyserCorleone
10-17-24, 04:45 PM
I didn't know Woody Allen made a musical. Might have to see that
cricket
10-17-24, 05:28 PM
I've seen Walk Hard once and thought it was ok.
Haven't seen the Woody Allen movie.
MovieMeditation
10-17-24, 06:12 PM
Aaaaaaaand…
seen neither.
Haven’t replied in a while, life got in the way. I have seen 22/28 so far, which is kind of a shock for me. A few of mine have showed up:
Funny Girl: Watched this for the list and loved it. The leads are great, and if you are going to have a bunch of singing in your movie, may as well get one of the great voices of all time. The story moves this along for me, which greatly helps when I am watching a musical. My #12
The King And I: Another list watch I loved. Brynner and Kerr are fantastic together with the rat a tat dialogue. This movie looks amazing, including Kerr’s dresses, which is a thing I never care about. Already don’t remember the songs if I am honest. Definitely check this out again at some point. My #13
42nd Street: Pretty far removed from this one. I wanted to watch it again but didn’t get to. I compared it to Nashville when I saw it which is very high praise from me. Praising the characterizations. I have a feeling this one would have been higher if fresher in my mind. My #19.
Rocketman: Rewatched this in list prep. Loved it in theater, loved it again. Elton John is one of my faves, so it probably isn’t a surprise I like it. Egerton is fantastic and the choice to make it an actual musical was the perfect one. my #17
mrblond
10-17-24, 07:01 PM
#73. Everyone Says I Love You (1996) was my #5 for about one-third of its 58 pts.
Saw it in the theatre when it came out and numerous more times since then, even rewatched it again for the countdown to enjoy the moment. That's one of the movies which features ensemble of famous actors, arranged masterly by Woody Allen.
The music number in the jewelry house as well as the one along the river in night Paris are just great. A lot of jokes in-between...
Thanks everybody who supported this film!
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My Ballot
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5. Everyone Says I Love You (1996) [#73]
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7. Monty Python's The Meaning of Life (1983) [#99]
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9. Amadeus (1984) [#97]
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16. Rocketman (2019) [#91]
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25. The Gypsy Camp Vanishes Into the Blue (1975) [one pointer]
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Gideon58
10-17-24, 07:17 PM
#73. Everyone Says I Love You (1996) was my #5 for about one-third of its 58 pts.
Saw it in the theatre when it came out and numerous more times since then, even rewatched it again for the countdown to enjoy the moment. That's one of the movies which features ensemble of famous actors, arranged masterly by Woody Allen.
The music number in the jewelry house as well as the one along the river in night Paris are just great. A lot of jokes in-between...
Thanks everybody who supported this film!
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5. Everyone Says I Love You (1996) [#73]
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7. Monty Python's The Meaning of Life (1983) [#99]
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9. Amadeus (1984) [#97]
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16. Rocketman (2019) [#91]
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25. The Gypsy Camp Vanishes Into the Blue (1975) [one pointer]
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Everyone Says I Love You is a cute movie and the 2 scenes you mentioned were my favorites too, but there’s no way it would have made my top 25
mrblond
10-17-24, 07:35 PM
Everyone Says I Love You is a cute movie and the 2 scenes you mentioned were my favorites too, but there’s no way it would have made my top 25
Hm, I thought, you was one of the voters since few other users have ever mentioned it.
rauldc14
10-17-24, 08:25 PM
Seen 15/28 so far
3. Begin Again
4. Tick Tick Boom
14. West Side Story (2021)
17. 42nd Street
25. Brave Little Toaster (one pointer)
My guesses for tomorrow's movies are The Court Jester and Encanto.
PHOENIX74
10-18-24, 01:42 AM
I'm having a good run for having seen movies, but not a good one for movies from my ballot :
74. Walk Hard : The Dewey Cox Story (2007) - Laughed a lot regarding this one, which I find to be a very funny comedy - skewering those musical biopics which we weren't done with yet by 2007, for we've seen plenty since. John C. Reilly is always a hoot, and rarely gets to grab hold of a lead role like this. "Let's Duet" has to be my favourite song - stuffed full of super double entendres. I didn't expect it to show up here though, and didn't vote for it.
73. Everyone Says I Love You (1996) - I like a lot of Woody Allen films, but I don't like this one. I wrote a long review on Letterboxd : " Whenever the collection isn't staring me in the face, I forget how many terrific films Woody Allen has made. Midnight in Paris, Annie Hall, Manhattan, Blue Jasmine, Hannah and Her Sisters, The Purple Rose of Cairo, Crimes and Misdemeanors, Irrational Man, Zelig, Love and Death, Deconstructing Harry, Radio Days, Sleeper, Husbands and Wives, Bananas, Everything You Wanted to Know About Sex, Stardust Memories, Wonder Wheel, Take the Money and Run, Interiors and more. It's a ridiculous film resume, and with his 50th film, Coup De Chance, out now you can obviously discern that he's made so many there are bound to be a few absolute clunkers that don't really work. Not every single one can be brilliant. Well, Everyone Says I Love You certainly isn't brilliant. It's a film made from Allen's comfort zone - his narrative familiarity with wealth, high society, and love combined awkwardly meshing in this musical that not only has Allen slurping lips with a much younger woman, but using information gleaned from her therapy sessions to trick her into bed with him. All's fair to Allen - he's not exactly a "Me Too" icon.
This film came out in-between Mighty Aphrodite and Deconstructing Harry, both of which I'm familiar with - but I was completely unaware of it's existence. It had passed me by. It has a stacked cast - Alan Alda, Woody himself, Drew Barrymore, Goldie Hawn, Edward Norton, Natalie Portman, Julia Roberts and Tim Roth are the A-listers, but they have talented backing. They all sing (unrehearsed) to varying degrees of success (Woody whispers - an adroit tactic, in the meantime poor tuneless Julia Roberts falls flat. At the other end of the spectrum, Woody had to demand Goldie Hawn "sing worse" to match the everyday quality of singing - she was too good a warbler), but the master filmmaker's taste in music is simply far too old fashioned and way too staid for me. At times this music choice works, but at others the needed contrast is missing. Dennis Potter turned this kind of musical into a high artform, while Woody is simply Woody. The one big tick for me was his developing love affair with European cities, and as such we see plenty of Paris and Venice - two wonderful locations for this kind of film. The big negative was Allen's penchant for his characters to be ostentatiously, filthy rich in the most vulgar fashion possible.
The story, as loose as it is, revolves around an extended family unit, and the various romantic relationships that both blossom and die among it's many members. As already noted, the one with Woody is the one that made me the most uncomfortable - but as an added bonus we have Tim Roth's Charles Ferry, the only non-wealthy character in the film. Just out of prison, and obviously hopelessly corrupt and corrupted, he forces himself upon Barrymore's Skylar which prompts her to fall in love with him and dump fiance Holden Spence (Edward Norton). Look, it's all lighthearted and silly - but often there's an undercurrent in Allen's films that raise little red flags. I'd have much preferred to see Skylar beat Ferry up - which would have been funny (little fancy, demur rich girl beating up hardened crim) and more appropriate. I know - it's all about love in it's many guises, but it's love through Woody Allen's eyes. I can't afford to jet around to Paris and Venice on a whim, and if I force myself on somebody they probably won't fall in love with me. Using information gathered by snooping on therapy sessions to seduce someone is creepy. I do, however, have a song in my heart - so when Allen shows us what this could have been with the song and dance at the end - by the Seine - it's a little too late, but still appreciated because that's magic." That says enough.
Seen : 19/28
dadgumblah
10-18-24, 05:26 AM
Have seen neither of these but definitely know of them. So, obviously they didn't make it on my list. Oh well. There's always tomorrow. Tomorrow, tomorrow, I love you...never mind.
So far:
#1. On the Town #93 (list proper)
#6. Easter Parade #78 (list proper)
#10. Gigi #85 (list proper)
#12. Calamity Jane #84 (list proper)
#25. Neptune's Daughter (one-pointer).
Hey Fredrick
10-18-24, 09:56 AM
The only films to make my ballot so far are The Band Wagon @ 15 and 42nd Street @ 16.
The only other films I've seen are Amadeus, which I love but never considered, Walk the Line, Purple Rain, Easter Parade and The Meaning of Life. Easter Parade is the only one I would have considered for my ballot but it just wasn't as good as my one pointer which is:
The Forbidden Zone and it wasn't a goofy pick. It's bat shit crazy and a lot of fun.
SpelingError
10-18-24, 12:29 PM
Haven't seen either film.
John W Constantine
10-18-24, 12:40 PM
Haven't seen either film.
They haven't posted them.
They haven't posted them.
He's talking about yesterday's
John W Constantine
10-18-24, 01:27 PM
He's talking about yesterday's
I was talking about today's
Citizen Rules
10-18-24, 01:31 PM
I was talking about today'sToday's two musical movie reveals haven't been posted yet.
Little Ash
10-18-24, 03:15 PM
He's talking about yesterday's
I'd be okay just going ahead and saying, "I haven't seen either film," when talking about today's.
White Christmas - haven't seen despite how famous, well, the song from it is.
Purple Rain - haven't seen. I know someone who really likes this film, but I also don't really know how much Prince I listened to growing up (the number of songs Prince wrote on the other hand, I have more memories of), so I don't how much I'd end up liking this or not. Probably more appealing of a watch option than most generic musicals if they were presented to me though.
The Band Wagon - Another Minnelli, another one I haven't seen. Still haven't worked up the urge to see one. I'd assume I should start with Cabin in the Sky if I ever did. I had not heard of the title of this one before, but that isn't surprising.
Charlotte's Web - I saw this as a child and really adored it then. Didn't cross my mind when coming up with my list. No idea if it would have made it because I would have felt the need to rewatch it, and I... just kind of don't have that desire, despite having no real qualms with my memory of the movie. Though that would be more preferable to me than probably watching a number of the Disney musicals that will probably show up that I've never even seen once.
Easter Parade - Never heard of it.
Funny Girl - I don't know if I've seen any movie with Streisand in it.
42nd Street - repeat my earlier comment about Busby Berkeley
The King and I - I watched this a number of times growing up and as a child I really liked it. I have no desire to revisit it as an adult. I get the vibe we should look forward to Little Orphan Annie showing up on this list (in terms of, "musical I remember watching a lot of as a little kid")
Walk Hard - Never seen, didn't know it was a musical. I guess it isn't surprising a parody of a musician bio-pic would be a musical. People say it's funny. I guess, I would watch this one. Reilly is usually funny (though I say that without having ever seen any of his movies with Will Ferrell)
Everyone Says I Love You - I saw this as a teen. I don't remember much about it and don't have much interest in revisiting it.
Thursday Next
10-18-24, 03:22 PM
5lists58pointsYellow Submarine (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/12105-yellow-submarine.html)Director
George Dunning, 1968
Starring
Paul Angelis, John Clive, Dick Emery, Geoffrey Hughes
Thursday Next
10-18-24, 03:23 PM
4lists59pointsSeven Brides for Seven Brothers (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/16563-seven-brides-for-seven-brothers.html)Director
Stanley Donen, 1954
Starring
Jane Powell, Howard Keel, Jeff Richards, Russ Tamblyn
Citizen Rules
10-18-24, 03:27 PM
I'm not seeing the rep icon for both of the daily reveals. Yellow Submarine had the rep icon but Seven Brothers for Seven Brides. Anybody else not seeing the rep icon on the reveals? Yoda
honeykid
10-18-24, 03:28 PM
Two days in a row and I miss them both. :D
I had 42nd Street at #19. I watched it many years ago because I've always liked the title song, which alone is more than worth its place on this list, but there's some other decent songs (I prefer the lyrics to the music or singing for most of them) and there's the Busby choreography, if you like that kind of thing. It's very pretty, inventive and quite mesmerising if nothing else. But I really do love that title song.
Drew Barrymore made a musical? Of course I have it on my list. It's my #2. I felt I couldn't give it top spot because there's not a song on there I love (and this is a musicals list so I tried to give some credence to that) so second it had to be. Actually, Drew doesn't sing in the film (as she 'convinced' Allen her voice was too awful, even for someone not able to sing. But I suspect he did hear her and, maybe, agreed?) but, that doesn't matter because she's there and she's glorious and I really like the film too. It really is what it says it is, a Woody Allen musical, so if you don't care for either of those parts I'd be surprised if there's anything her for you and it's very much in the classic 30's/50's Hollywood musical style. But I like Allen and it's got Drew, so I saw this at the earliest opportunity (I think it was '97 by the time it was released over here?) and I knew it'd be first or second on my list from the moment it was possible this countdown would happen.
I don't see the rep button for Seven Brides and it's not there for Walk Hard either.
Thursday Next
10-18-24, 03:29 PM
The 5-point gap between yesterday's The King and I and today's Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story is the biggest one so far. So far, we've had 8 ties, but as we get down the list, this separation will keep growing.
You would think so, but there are ties all the way down! There's a 4-way tie in the 60s, a 3-way tie in the 30s, a tie in the 20s and three movies in the top 20 separated only by one point. There are some interesting point jumps, too, which I can't say anything more about just yet.
Thursday Next
10-18-24, 03:30 PM
I'm not seeing the rep icon for both of the daily reveals. Yellow Submarine had the rep icon but Seven Brothers for Seven Brides. Anybody else not seeing the rep icon on the reveals? Yoda
I think it's just because the title is so long! I can't see the time stamp on this or Walk Hard either.
Miss Vicky
10-18-24, 03:31 PM
I've seen Yellow Submarine a couple of times and was rather underwhelmed by it.
After another MoFo described Seven Brides for Seven Brothers as "Seven Victims for Seven Rapists," I decided to make that one a hard pass.
Citizen Rules
10-18-24, 03:33 PM
Two days in a row and I miss them both. :D
I had 42nd Street at #19. I watched it many years ago because I've always liked the title song, which alone is more than worth its place on this list, but there's some other decent songs (I prefer the lyrics to the music or singing for most of them) and there's the Busby choreography, if you like that kind of thing. It's very pretty, inventive and quite mesmerising if nothing else. But I really do love that title song.
Like I said to Raul, I'm really surprised you like 42nd Street, but very cool too!
Citizen Rules
10-18-24, 03:35 PM
I think it's just because the title is so long! I can't see the time stamp on this or Walk Hard either.Thanks, I'd give you a rep each time just for doing all the hard work for us! But if sometimes we can't rep, just take a bow🙂
Thursday Next
10-18-24, 03:35 PM
You would think so, but there are ties all the way down! There's a 4-way tie in the 60s, a 3-way tie in the 30s, a tie in the 20s and three movies in the top 20 separated only by one point. There are some interesting point jumps, too, which I can't say anything more about just yet.
In fact, having looked again it seems that every movie between 70 and 60 is part of a tie.
Holden Pike
10-18-24, 03:36 PM
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Yellow Submarine was #62 on the MoFo Top 100 Animated Films.
I love the animation and the music in Yellow Submarine. The trippy visuals and groovy imagery is fun too. I rated Yellow Submarine an 8/10, but did not have enough room on my ballot for it. Glad it made the countdown. I liked Seven Brides For Seven Brothers too, although it has been a while since I saw it and don't remember much. I initially rated it an 8/10, but again did not have room to consider it for my ballot.
Seen: 29/30
Holy cow.
I just assumed Seven Brides For Seven Brothers would be top-20 if not top-10.
My first absolute shock of the countdown.
I had it at No.10, fwiw.
KeyserCorleone
10-18-24, 03:40 PM
I'm a bit surprised Yellow Submarine made it this low, considering it's a literal Beatles musical. Good movie with fun surreality.
Thursday Next
10-18-24, 03:42 PM
I think if you added up all the movies people thought would be top 20, it would come to a lot more than 20.
Citizen Rules
10-18-24, 03:43 PM
Well Yahoo and Bless my hide! One of my favorite musicals just made the countdown:D Seven Brides for Seven Brothers was the first musical I rewatched in prep for this countdown and it made my ballot at #8
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Seven Brides for Seven Brothers (1954)
Gosh I love this film! It's such escapist fun with witty & catchy songs that move the story along at a break neck speed. Howard Keel has always been a favorite of mine in the many musicals that he made. Keel was a bass-baritone singer with a strong screen presences. He was the perfect choice to play a strong willed mountain man who comes into town to buy supplies...and to get married. There's only one problem he doesn't know any girls. The opening song Bless Yore Beautiful Hide is riotously funny, especially with the staging as Keel walks around the town looking for a woman who's 'fit to be married'. Milking a cow is the perky Jane Powell who also sings up a storm and starred in many of MGM's musicals. Keel spots her and within a few minutes they're getting married! Hey no one said this is reality! Indeed the painted country backdrops and the small studio set enforces the idea that this story is one big fun lark.
So the rub is, when lovely Jane Powell arrives at the mountain cabin to start a life of wedded bliss she discovers to her surprise that her new husband has six brothers who all live in the same house. They are an unruly mess too, that's until Jane Powell whips them into shape.
The highlight of the movie, which rates as one of the best staged musical dance sequences in a film, is the famous Barn Raising Dance. It's the center piece of the movie and has some spectacular acrobatic style high-energy dancing set to a heart pumping musical beat. The Lonesome Polecat, Sobbin Woman and June Bride numbers are also stand out. I loved revisiting this movie so much that during a break with the movie on pause I was singing in bass baritone a snippet of Sobbin Woman that cracked my wife up, as believe it or not, I was able for a couple lines at least to sound remarkable like Keel.
rating_5 Making my ballot!
Citizen Rules
10-18-24, 03:54 PM
Holy cow.
I just assumed Seven Brides For Seven Brothers would be top-20 if not top-10.
My first absolute shock of the countdown.
I had it at No.10, fwiw.Agreed. With big time classical era musicals like The King and I and now Seven Brides For Seven Brothers coming in so low, I really think what you said the other day makes sense. The top part of the countdown will be dominated by animated and recently made musicals. Just not many of us old time classic era musical fans around. Oh well, that's not a complaint:p just a prediction. I'm having good fun with the countdown!:)
Citizen Rules
10-18-24, 04:02 PM
Not a big favorite but an interesting movie. I watched Yellow Submarine in the 23rd MoFo Hall of Fame and wrote this:
https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=67385
Yellow Submarine
Dir: George Dunning (1968)
Ah, look at all the lonely people....Ah, look at all the lonely people
Eleanor Rigby, such a poetic song! Its verses are simple and yet so haunting in the loneliness it describes. It's been one of my favorite Beatles songs since I was a youngster. Yellow Submarine is like one grand psychedelic music video that's loosely based on two different Beatles songs Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band and of course the titular song Yellow Submarine.
There are 15 Beatles songs in a scant 85 minute long movie. Four of those songs were introduced for the first time in the movie. The joy is in the music and the story is secondary to the songs.
The Beatles themselves do not voice their own characters, that's done by voice actors...but the songs are authentic Beatles and there's a short live action epilogue featuring the Fab Four.
https://i.gifer.com/2HrN.gif
The animation style might be off putting to modern audiences but animated aficionados and 'baby boomers' might appreciate the very distinct free-form style of late 1960s animation which scream psychedelic!
I seen Yellow Submarine on TV as a kid and the one thing I remembered was the blue meanies! and the submarine I always liked the funky submarine. My favorite music number is the high energy Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds.
Watched both of these for list prep and my mom always told me if you don’t have anything nice to say….
MovieMeditation
10-18-24, 04:26 PM
How many of today’s movies I have seen:
neither.
cricket
10-18-24, 04:27 PM
I wouldn't say I really liked Seven Brides for Seven Brothers, but I liked it much more than I had expected, more than most classic musicals.
Seen Yellow Submarine twice and I don't care for it, and I love The Beatles.
WHITBISSELL!
10-18-24, 04:59 PM
Have watched 8 of 30. No new ones on my ballot.
Yellow Submarine
Purple Rain (my #9)
White Christmas
The Burden (watched the video Takoma posted but I'm still counting it)
Gigi (#17)
Tommy (#15)
Amadeus
Cinderella (#5)
KeyserCorleone
10-18-24, 05:03 PM
I think if you added up all the movies people thought would be top 20, it would come to a lot more than 20.
Yeah, although I think many of these should've been top 50 instead.
dadgumblah
10-18-24, 05:46 PM
I love Yellow Submarine and have seen it countless times and bought the newer soundtrack that had all the songs in the movie and none of the orchestral tracks and that was fine by me. And it was a while back so I had it on cassette tape! But the movie is so much fun and I always remember the voice actor for Ringo saying, "I want me Mum!" :p The wild animation, like on "Eleanor Rigby" reminds me of Terry Gilliam's style from the Monty Python tv series. And the eye-popping color dazzles! As much as I love the Beatles, I completely forgot to include them in this countdown and I'm kicking myself for that. But I'm glad to see that it made it without my help.
Wow, like Citizen Rules, Thursday Next and KeyserCorleone have indicated, the bottom half of the countdown will be filled with musicals that are older, and probably most from my list! Seven Brides for Seven Brothers is terrific and it's my #14. I used to go around singing "Bless Yore Beautiful Hide"---that song just stuck with me. Keel is super here, but he's more than matched by the beautiful Jane Powell. :love: I love that she has to take care of the
whole house full of brothers and before long she's had enough and turns them into respectable gentlemen (sort of) and makes them respect her! It's a joy seeing this tiny little woman commanding all these burly mountain men. The barn-raising sequence is my favorite part of the film, even though the poor barn doesn't fare so well. :) Of the six remaining brides, I liked seeing Julie Newmar as one, and Ruta Lee also (she was a constant presence in Fort Worth, playing at the Casa Manana theater in musical plays---in fact that's how I first heard of her, not movies). Super entertainment. Great direction by Stanley Donen. I wonder how many times he'll show up on the countdown?
So far:
#1. On the Town #93 (list proper)
#6. Easter Parade #78 (list proper)
#10. Gigi #85 (list proper)
#12. Calamity Jane #84 (list proper)
#14. Seven Brides for Seven Brothers #71 (list proper)
#25. Neptune's Daughter (one-pointer).
I really, really dislike the animation style of Yellow Submarine, so I didn't consider voting for it. That said, it is an animation landmark and clearly beloved by many, so it's no surprise to see it in the top 100. And of course the music is great.
I haven't seen Seven Brides for Seven Brothers, but I have seen the Python version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3DqNKUDV4I
Little Ash
10-18-24, 07:24 PM
I've never seen The Yellow Submarine. Saw Seven Brides for Seven Brothers when I was very young, don't remember much other than the fact that I saw it. Didn't cross my mind for a revisit for the countdown. I think this will be a re-occurring theme for me.
rauldc14
10-18-24, 07:55 PM
Seen both and didn't like either. Seven Brides for Seven Brothers had promise and then faded.
Omnizoa
10-18-24, 08:33 PM
Seen Yellow Submarine. Didn't think of it for the countdown.
Obviously the music's great, so that accounts for something, but I also don't do drugs so I can't really recommend the trip.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuS5NuXRb5Y
Gideon58
10-18-24, 08:56 PM
I’ve never seen Yellow Submarine
Gideon58
10-18-24, 08:59 PM
Holy cow.
I just assumed Seven Brides For Seven Brothers would be top-20 if not top-10.
My first absolute shock of the countdown.
I had it at No.10, fwiw.
No arguments regarding the sexist undertones of Seven Brides, but I still love that Barn raising dance and “Lonesome Polecat”
Gideon58
10-18-24, 09:32 PM
I haven't seen either of these movies.
I lost interest in Woody Allen after Manhattan. Though I did really like that one with Cate Blanchett as the social climber on the down-a-later.
Cate Blanchett won an Oscar for that movie. Its called Blue Jasmine
Two more I haven't seen... I mean, today's... and yesterday's... and probably tomorrow's.
SEEN: 5/30
MY BALLOT: 1/25
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Stats: Pit Stop #3
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Now that we've hit the third pit stop (70), here are some stats:
Decade Breakdown
1920s = 0
1930s = 3
1940s = 2
1950s = 6
1960s = 3
1970s = 2
1980s = 3
1990s = 3
2000s = 2
2010s = 4
2020s = 2
As was expected, the 1950s continue rolling with three more on this latest batch for a lead of 6 entries. The 1960s also have a strong showing with 2 more, with a pretty level rest.
Recurring Directors
Stanley Donen = 2
Vincente Minnelli = 2
This latest batch also gave us our first two repeating directors in Vincente Minnelli (Gigi and The Band Wagon) and Stanley Donen (Seven Brides for Seven Brothers and On the Town)
We also have had 5 animated films so far.
PHOENIX74
10-18-24, 11:55 PM
Ah - another from my list. It's been a while!
72. Yellow Submarine (1968) - Nearly everything the Beatles touched turned to gold (I say nearly because I watched their Magical Mystery Tour special - probably the only thing Beatles-related I could really think poorly of) and Yellow Submarine is a fantabulous creation. The mix of psychedelic animation and brilliant music is charming and the kooky story like something from a dream. It's funny and it's heart is in a wonderfully pure and innocent place (oh, for some of that innocence and love in today's world!) The sheer bizarreness of some of the visuals is thrilling because of how much there is to see and how strikingly uncanny it all is. I love it, so of course it needed to make my musicals ballot - I had it at #22.
71. Seven Brides For Seven Brothers (1954) - I've been avoiding this musical my whole life. Who knows, maybe it's time I gave it a go. I'm put off a little by how unnaturally cheery it appears to be - but I'm slowly gaining an appreciation for well choreographed song and dance in musicals of old.
Seen 20/30
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Seen : 20/30
I'd never even heard of : 5/30
Movies that had been on my radar, but I haven't seen yet : 5/30
Films from my list : 3
#72 - My #22 - Yellow Submarine (1968)
#92 - My #8 - Tommy (1975)
One-pointer - My #25 - Shock Treatment (1981)
SpelingError
10-19-24, 10:42 AM
They haven't posted them.
I successfully predicted the future as I haven't seen these films either.
John W Constantine
10-19-24, 11:20 AM
I successfully predicted the future as I haven't seen these films either.
Me either.
Thursday Next
10-19-24, 01:43 PM
3lists60pointsO Brother, Where Art Thou? (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/134-o-brother-where-art-thou.html)Director
Joel Coen, 2000
Starring
George Clooney, John Turturro, Tim Blake Nelson, John Goodman
Thursday Next
10-19-24, 01:44 PM
7lists60pointsGentlemen Prefer Blondes (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/759-gentlemen-prefer-blondes.html)Director
Howard Hawks, 1953
Starring
Marilyn Monroe, Jane Russell, Charles Coburn, Elliott Reid
Thursday Next
10-19-24, 01:46 PM
And finally a film from my list has shown up (not counting the one-pointers). Gentlemen Prefer Blondes was my #24. It's just a really fun musical.
Seen 26/32
My list 1/25
Gentlemen Prefer Blondes has wonderful performances, witty dialogue and fun songs. I rated it an 8/10. O Brother Where Art Thou is entertaining and enjoyable, although I don't really think of it as a musical. I also rated it an 8/10. I did not have enough room on my ballot to consider either one though.
Seen: 31/32
Citizen Rules
10-19-24, 01:52 PM
I rewatched Gentlemen Prefer Blondes and liked it more than I even expected, so much so that I found a place on my ballot. It was my #23.
Gentlemen Prefer Blondes (1953)
Marilyn Monroe was much more talented than people gave her credit for. Here she's so good in a comedy role in which she plays Lorelei Lee a showgirl who wants to marry for money. Her sidekick, brunette Jane Russell thinks that's silly and tries to guide her gold digging friend in the right direction. I bet we ALL know the musical number that Marilyn sings, Diamonds Are a Girl's Best Friend, that was Marilyn's signature number. A very funny well paced musical.
Miss Vicky
10-19-24, 01:58 PM
Coen movies are really hit or miss for me and O Brother, Where Art Thou? was one of the misses. I haven't seen Gentlemen Prefer Blondes but I doubt I would like it.
Seen: 10/32
MovieMeditation
10-19-24, 02:07 PM
Seen ne- no wait! I have seen one this time!
The Coens are among my favorite directors, but that one in particular is not one of my favs from them. It’s a bit weird and I don’t feel like it quite succeeds.
Gentlemen Prefer Blondes I actually really wanna see but have yet to do so.
Daniel M
10-19-24, 02:16 PM
I love O Brother, but forgot to include it in my list. I'm not sure it's a proper musical so maybe I wouldn't have anyway, I think I just used whatever IMDb categorises as a Musical.
Gentlemen Prefer Blondes was my number nine, wonderful film. I love Howard Hawks and Marilyn Monroe. I rewatched this a couple of years ago when the monstrosity which is Blonde came out.
Surprised it's so low, pretty much every entry I've seen since The Band Wagon has left me thinking "really, higher than The Band Wagon?" so now I'm going to be thinking "really, higher than The Band Wagon AND Gentlemen Prefer Blondes?" :eek:
I thought Gentlemen Prefer Blondes was fine. Wasn’t anywhere near making my list. I think one of my classic movie shames is probably that I don’t really dig Hawks at all. There could be an exception I’m not thinking of.
Despite thinking the Coen Brothers don’t make missteps, I haven’t ever loved O’Brother. Read have never put my finger on why, but it will get a fourth chance eventually. Wouldn’t have considered it a musical regardless.
honeykid
10-19-24, 02:57 PM
I've seen Yellow Submarine a couple of times and was rather underwhelmed by it.
After another MoFo described Seven Brides for Seven Brothers as "Seven Victims for Seven Rapists," I decided to make that one a hard pass.
That would be me. :yup:
I saw The Yellow Submarine at school when I was about 10 or 11. Hated it. I was bored even though we were at school but not doing work. What I'd think of it now I don't know, I'd probably like the music a little more, but that'd probably be it.
I saw Where Brother... a couple of times when it came out, but I've not seen it since. I liked it and a couple of the songs, but it's not my kind of music.
I'm not sure if I've seen Gentlemen Prefer Blondes or not.
exiler96
10-19-24, 03:10 PM
O Brother Where Art Thou didn't work for me narratively - but I love (and actually owned) the soundtrack...
Gentlemen isn't top-tier Hawkes but it's delightful and another testement to the man's ability to tackle any genre with success.
John-Connor
10-19-24, 03:12 PM
https://image.tmdb.org/t/p/original/hzW2kxEXGkciDc5tB20AbcysnUu.jpg
And here's the first favorite that I just completely forgot about. Absolutely love O Brother, Where Art Thou and its music. Probably would've made my top fifteen had I remembered.
SEEN 11/32
BALLOT 2/25
Should've been on ballot: O Brother, Where Art Thou? (2000)
cricket
10-19-24, 03:33 PM
I like the music in O Brother but I don't care for the movie.
Not sure if I've seen Gentlemen Prefer Blondes.
mrblond
10-19-24, 05:27 PM
#70 - O Brother, Where Art Thou? (2000)
I don't remember its musical numbers. Anyway I have issues with its screenplay and usually don't consider it for whichever countdown. Nice cinematography though.
#69 - Gentlemen Prefer Blondes (1953)
Saw it for this countdown. It is a very colorful chicks promotion, nothing more. At some point, I considered it as a filler for my #23-25.
beelzebubble
10-19-24, 05:47 PM
Alrighty then…I like all these last four movies. Yellow Sub., 7 for 7, O Brother and GPB. None of these is on my list. 7 for 7 probably should have been for the fabulous dance scenes. I was a Beatles Super Fan in my youth and I meant to put one of their movies on my list but didn’t. The soundtrack for O Brother is stellar American roots music. Love it. I always get GPB and How to Marry a Millionaire confused they both have Marilyn and a similar theme.
SpelingError
10-19-24, 06:11 PM
Seen and enjoyed both, but neither made my ballot.
Gideon58
10-19-24, 06:40 PM
Don't really consider O Brother Where Art Thou a musical. Love the movie though.
Don't really consider O Brother Where Art Thou a musical. Love the movie though.
I think it's safe to say that if anyone performs any music in any way in a movie, it's gonna be on this list.
MovieMeditation
10-19-24, 07:13 PM
I think it's safe to say that if anyone performs any music in any way in a movie, it's gonna be on this list.
And that’s why I put A Clockwork Orange confidently at number one on my list. :up:
And that’s why I put A Clockwork Orange confidently at number one on my list. :up:
Dude. That is spot-on.
Citizen Rules
10-19-24, 10:11 PM
Well, it does have that Singin' in the Rain number, not much dancing but lots of high kicks:eek:
I like O Brother, Where Art Thou? quite a bit, but I don't think it cracks my Coen Top 10. Still, it's a lot of fun. Now that I think of it, I probably could've made space for it on my ballot, especially considering how thin my last 3 or 4 are. But well...
I haven't seen Gentlemen Prefer Blondes.
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MY BALLOT: 1/25
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Helluva catchy musical number from O Brother, Where Art Thou?...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDDEqgmGIVg
Little Ash
10-19-24, 11:40 PM
Haven't seen Gentlemen Prefer Blondes. I haven't had much luck with some of the other notable Hawks' films in other genres (His Girl Friday, Rio Bravo), which doesn't make me want to go give him a try for a genre I'm not big on (admittedly, screwball rom-coms and classic westerns are also not my go-to genres either). Shame, since I do really like John Carpenter movies.
O' Brother Where Art Thou - I'd have to look to see which Coen brothers' movies I'd rank below this (Intolerable Cruelty, presumably the Lady Killers if I'd ever watch it), but that might be it. I guess it's conceivable I'll re-watch again one day because it's not actually bad, just, I'd prefer re-watching nearly any other Coen movie first. I guess that means, maybe it should have made my ballot since I had so many blank spaces. But, an indifferent, "oh well."
Holden Pike
10-19-24, 11:50 PM
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O Brother, Where Art Thou? was #96 on the MoFo Top 100 of the Millennium, jumped up to #21 on the MoFo Top 100 of the 2000s, and was #78 on the MoFo Top 100 Comedies list.
PHOENIX74
10-20-24, 12:45 AM
70. O Brother, Where Art Thou? (2000) - I really need to watch this again - I've seen O Brother, Where Art Thou a half-dozen times or so, but if you gave me a piece of paper and pen, then told me to write down specifics, I could say a lot about it other than how everything eventually comes to an end. I don't know if it's because I zone out every time I watch it, but I have an over familiarity with the start of that film and a lack of remembrance concerning the rest. Or at least the very last scene. Something I really dislike is not being able to remember how a certain film ends, despite having seen it. It makes me feel like I haven't really seen it. This isn't my favourite Coen Bros movie, simply because they've made so many great films. It's far from my least favourite though. Watching it again soon.
69. Gentlemen Prefer Blondes (1953) - I don't think I've seen this - famous for the whole "Diamonds Are a Girl's Best Friend" number. I will one day.
Seen 21/32
Holden Pike
10-20-24, 01:23 AM
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It's no secret I am an enormous Coen Brothers fan, but even so O Brother got nowhere near my ballot. Mostly because it just plain isn't enough of a Musical, for my taste, to be included in this exercise. However, I positively had to make room for Howard Hawks' Gentlemen Prefer Blondes. It was my twenty-first pick, good for five of its sixty points. While not the funniest Musical ever made nor the funniest comedy in Hawks' mighty filmography, it is still very funny, showcases what I find to be the legendary Monroe's best comedic performance, and for good measure has one of the most iconic numbers in the history of film.
That's the third of my choices to show.
HOLDEN’S BALLOT
17. Amadeus (#97)
21. Gentlemen Prefer Blondes (#69)
25. Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story (#74)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yiYZ64DG-E
dadgumblah
10-20-24, 04:34 AM
I really liked O Brother, Where Are Thou? and saw it a couple of times but it's been a few years. I never considered it for this list though.
Gentlemen Prefer Blondes is great fun and Marilyn and Jane are an awesome duo of showbiz gals in this. The supporting cast is fine, particulary Charles Coburn as "Piggy" ;) and scene-stealer little George Winslow, the raspy-voiced child actor who Marilyn at first mistakes for somebody older, then he helps her out of a jam, partly because, as he croaks, "You've got animal magnetism!" :D Didn't include this one either.
So far:
#1. On the Town #93 (list proper)
#6. Easter Parade #78 (list proper)
#10. Gigi #85 (list proper)
#12. Calamity Jane #84 (list proper)
#14. Seven Brides for Seven Brothers #71 (list proper)
#25. Neptune's Daughter (one-pointer).
John W Constantine
10-20-24, 02:38 PM
Any today?
Thursday Next
10-20-24, 04:10 PM
5lists61pointsMoana (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/277834-moana.html)Director
John Musker, 2016
Starring
Auli'i Cravalho, Dwayne Johnson, Rachel House, Temuera Morrison
Thursday Next
10-20-24, 04:11 PM
7lists61pointsA Star Is Born (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/3111-a-star-is-born.html)Director
George Cukor, 1954
Starring
Judy Garland, James Mason, Jack Carson, Charles Bickford
Thursday Next
10-20-24, 04:18 PM
I did not vote for Moana, but I certainly considered it. The songs are great and I found I appreciated them more with repeat viewings/listening.
A Star is Born is a film I watched as part of preparation for this countdown and I thought it was very good. Judy Garland is really great.
iluv2viddyfilms
10-20-24, 04:53 PM
I have only seen the Judy Garland version of A Star is Born and it is amazing. James Mason also makes that film and is genuinely believable as the washed up alcoholic and I think it's one of film's all time great performances. Also very few directors can do interplay and drama between strong willed and conflicted characters as well as George Cukor, who along with William Wyler might be one of the least appreciated great filmmakers who is not a "household" name among the likes of a John Ford, Orson Welles, or Alfred Hitchcock. I've heard stories that Cukor had a reputation as a "woman's director," and I believe he directed parts of Gone With the Wind too and had some run ins with Clark Gable, if memory holds. But A Star is Born is great and Garland and Mason play so well of each other that I can't imagine any other version of the story being anything but a lesser rendition of the gold standard.
For those reasons, A Star is Born, made my list at number 19.
So far... unless I forgot or missed one, my picks that made the countdown:
19. A Star is Born
21. Easter Parade
22. 42nd Street
25. The Smiling Lieutenant
John-Connor
10-20-24, 04:54 PM
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Epic tale with a good balance of Drama, Mystery, Adventure, Comedy, song, dance and breathtaking animation. Moana was my #17.
A Star Is Born is super classic, expected it to place a bit higher. Haven't seen it since I was a kid though so no vote.
SEEN 13/34
BALLOT 3/25
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25. Anastasia (1997)
19. Purple Rain (1984)
17. Moana (2016)
iluv2viddyfilms
10-20-24, 05:05 PM
Don't really consider O Brother Where Art Thou a musical. Love the movie though.
Yep, and I have zero interest in getting in a fight over what constitutes a musical and what doesn't... I think the MoFo rules said three musical numbers. Help me if I'm wrong on that, so if that's the case, I accept it for the countdown and think it should be on the list as it's a great great film. But for my list I didn't include it as I generally don't categorize as a musical despite having some great musical moments... just like I wouldn't consider Rio Bravo to be a musical, despite having one of the most iconic musical interludes in film history.
LAMb EELYAK
10-20-24, 05:08 PM
Seen 15/34. Maybe 16. Can't remember if I ever saw O Brother in its entirety.
7. The Smiling Lieutenant (1931) - #96
8. Into the Woods (2014) - #86
12. West Side Story (2021) - #90
16. Rocketman (2019) - #91
20. Funny Girl (1968) - #77
22. A Star Is Born (1954) - #67
25. Commentary! The Musical (2008) - One-pointer
I would've rather voted for the original A Star Is Born but there was some issue about "not having any songs in it."
rauldc14
10-20-24, 05:11 PM
Moana was my 12! It's the best post 2000s Disney flick for me.
I'm shocked that A Star is Born didn't crack the top 50 although I have not seen it.
Miss Vicky
10-20-24, 05:29 PM
I go back and forth on Moana. Sometimes I like it and sometimes I don't, but I've never loved it. If I had stuck with my original intention of not doing any preparation for this countdown, I probably would've voted for it. But I did prepare and it eventually got cut.
I don't think I've seen A Star is Born and I don't particularly want to see it.
MovieMeditation
10-20-24, 05:36 PM
Moana is fine and has some really good scenes and songs, but overall I’m not a fan. There’s a lot I don’t like about it and it feels quite uneven and tonally weird and wobbly structured.
I have seen A Star is Born although not that version… if it’s anything like the newest version I don’t really see it as a musical so even if I saw and liked this I wouldn’t vote for it.
cricket
10-20-24, 05:53 PM
I voted for A Star is Born, and I must like the story because I threw other votes at it, including the 1937 version which I forgot wasn't a musical and therefore didn't count.
I don't believe I've seen Moana although it looks familiar.
5. Charlotte's Web (#79)
17. Calamity Jane (#84)
21. A Star is Born 1954 (#67)
25. 42nd Street (#76)
LAMb EELYAK
10-20-24, 06:00 PM
I have seen A Star is Born although not that version… if it’s anything like the newest version I don’t really see it as a musical so even if I saw and liked this I wouldn’t vote for it.
The 1954 has the most musical genre vibe. The lead character is an actress that stars in musicals so you get actual "numbers".
Citizen Rules
10-20-24, 06:13 PM
A Star is Born (1954) was #22 on my ballot. I guess I didn't right anything about it, but I was impressed with it.
Moana, I don't care about Disney or their movies, so no votes.
SpelingError
10-20-24, 06:26 PM
I haven't seen Moana. A Star is Born is very good, but it didn't make my ballot.
iluv2viddyfilms
10-20-24, 06:30 PM
Moana, I don't care about Disney or their movies, so no votes.
Lol, this made me laugh. Also, only one animated film made my list and it's not a Disney film.
Little Ash
10-20-24, 07:59 PM
I have one Disney movie on my ballot (and Miss Vicky gave a legitimate Disney movie that I would have probably put on my list if it had crossed my mind), but outside of those two films and some vague childhood nostalgia for The Black Cauldron (never revisited as an adult and for this countdown. not a musical), I don't recall having any interest in Disney animated films. Partly due to the era I grew up, I guess.
Never have had much desire to see any version of A Star is Born.
iluv2viddyfilms
10-20-24, 09:43 PM
Never have had much desire to see any version of A Star is Born.
That makes sense and the remakes don't interest me much as the 1954 version is so good and I can't see a film version of this without Judy Garland as just a lesser copy. I don't know why the story has become such an institution.
Moana was my #13. I love the film, not only because of the musical numbers, but they do factor into that highly. From the beautiful tunes of "How Far I'll Go" or the earworm of "You're Welcome" to the funky catchiness of "Shiny" or the more Polynesian flavor from the tunes written by Opetaia Foa'i (who I already knew because I was a fan of his band, Te Vaka, before this came up), it's all banger after banger. I know Frozen's "Let It Go" is the one that really hit big, but as far as I'm concerned, this is the soundtrack I just can't let go.
I haven't seen any version of A Star Is Born, but I've heard this one is probably the best or second best.
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I know "You're Welcome" will probably get the most thumbs up, but this is the one that always sticks with me the most.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93lrosBEW-Q
As usual, Jermaine Clement is killing it.
Takoma11
10-20-24, 10:39 PM
I saw Moana in the theater one snowy day when I arrived for massage school only to find that they'd done a half-day delay. It was such a pleasant surprise. I think that the songs are all really strong, as are the vocal performances. I like the look of it. All around just a really solid film.
After another MoFo described Seven Brides for Seven Brothers as "Seven Victims for Seven Rapists," I decided to make that one a hard pass.
Two things about Seven Brides for Seven Brothers:
1) The man who directed it had five wives! FIVE!
2) I had literally just finished a unit with my students about slavery. In the middle of class, some high schoolers come in and ask if they can talk to the class about the musical they're putting on. They describe the plot of the play. EVERY CHILD TURNS AND LOOKS AT ME. One student raises her hand and goes, "BUT---" and I was like "Thank you so much for coming to share, I'm sure there could be some interesting discussions about that play".
Anyway, I support your decision to avoid. It's a fantasy about a group of men kidnapping women because they read a myth literally about rape and thought "That's a good idea!". The dancing/production is great. I hated every character and the whole concept. It was played all the time on TV when I was a kid. A few years ago I decided to give it a fair shake and watch it beginning to end and it just confirmed the poor impression it had made all the times I caught it on TV.
Gideon58
10-20-24, 11:23 PM
I know "You're Welcome" will probably get the most thumbs up, but this is the one that always sticks with me the most.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93lrosBEW-Q
As usual, Jermaine Clement is killing it.
“You’re Welcome “ is the only thing I remember about Moana
Little Ash
10-20-24, 11:39 PM
1) The man who directed it had five wives! FIVE!
I feel like that's selling his final partnership with Elaine May short.
I really liked Moana and wanted to include it on my ballot, but couldn't make room. I like the animation, the characters, and the songs. A Star is Born is very good too and has wonderful performances, but again I did not have sufficient room on my ballot
Seen: 33/34
PHOENIX74
10-21-24, 03:27 AM
68. Moana (2016) - This one stuck in my memory for a couple of reasons. First, the animation was extraordinarily pretty to look at and at times down right awe-inspiring. Second, the songs were as catchy as the most infectious pop tunes imaginable. Pretty good, and a really nice surprise for me. As much as I liked it, it couldn't push out any of my worthy contenders on a Top 25 ballot - but it was one I stopped and really thought about. It deserves a place on this Top 100 list - that's for sure. It'd be on my Top 100.
67. A Star is Born (1954) - This is probably the best Star is Born, although I get a funny feeling that one or two of the other versions are going to appear further up - most probably that Lady Gaga 2018 version. It feels like that was released yesterday! Time flies. I'm not so sure about the '76 version, although that was okay I think. ("Not bad. Not great," I said on Letterboxd.) Judy Garland had already been through a lot by the time she appeared in this. Couldn't quite do enough for me to make my ballot.
Seen 23/34
dadgumblah
10-21-24, 04:43 AM
Loved Moana and even have it on Blu-Ray. But my attraction to it is not as much for the music as it is the beautiful animation. It's nice to see it made it.
A Star is Born is a great movie and Judy Garland and James Mason are fantastic in it. Judy is indeed a star in this, but I included films with her that I watch more often and consider them more favorite that aSiB. Maybe not better films but films I look more forward to if they aire. So, neither film on my list but good to see them.
So far:
#1. On the Town #93 (list proper)
#6. Easter Parade #78 (list proper)
#10. Gigi #85 (list proper)
#12. Calamity Jane #84 (list proper)
#14. Seven Brides for Seven Brothers #71 (list proper)
#25. Neptune's Daughter (one-pointer).
Citizen Rules
10-21-24, 09:30 AM
....Two things about Seven Brides for Seven Brothers:
1) The man who directed it had five wives! FIVE!...There's no need to shame people for their life style choices. Who knows maybe the poor man married five nut case women:p
John W Constantine
10-21-24, 09:54 AM
Two things about Seven Brides for Seven Brothers:
1) The man who directed it had five wives! FIVE!.
You would be unhappy and miserable with five loving and masculine husbands?
honeykid
10-21-24, 11:33 AM
Seen neither, wish to see neither.
I know "You're Welcome" will probably get the most thumbs up, but this is the one that always sticks with me the most.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93lrosBEW-Q
As usual, Jermaine Clement is killing it.
Best part of the movie, IMO.
I don't even know what "You're welcome" is.
Little Ash
10-21-24, 01:08 PM
You would be unhappy and miserable with five loving and masculine husbands?
I mean, that might mean just that many more men to clean up after as they'll probably all be bad at dividing the household chores (despite their claims to the contrary).
John-Connor
10-21-24, 01:13 PM
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