1970's Hall of Fame

[cricket]

cricket CosmicRunaway

Here is the scene I was talking about. Shot in my neighborhood square though it looks drastically different now. My father was actually one of the extras in that scene.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSU6U1nxhUA

Are you the boy with the drum???

[CosmicRunaway]

That makes sense because it's probably been a year since I asked you. I don't see you posting what you watch anywhere.
Yeah, I only seem to write about theatre screenings in the RTLMYS thread, and the actual reviews I do are few and far between haha.

It's one of the films I planned to write about in that German Recs thread I started. Maybe now that I'm sitting a HoF out, I'll have time to do more posts for that.

[Citizen Rules]

edarsenal, Ed could you put the review count for each person, on the first page? I find it useful for keeping tabs on how things are progressing and I'm too lazy to count up the reviews to see who's ahead in watching and who ain't watching at all:cool:

[Jeff Costello]

@edarsenal (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=50536), Ed could you put the review count for each person, on the first page? I find it useful for keeping tabs on how things are progressing and I'm too lazy to count up the reviews to see who's ahead in watching and who ain't watching at all:cool:

Review count is already in the second post.

[Citizen Rules]

Review count is already in the second post. Oh, that's not what I meant. I meant like: 1/14

A count for every person after their name. Of course we're just starting so right now it's not real important, but later on it's nice to see where everyone is at in their watching.

[edarsenal]

Oh, that's not what I meant. I meant like: 1/14

A count for every person after their name. Of course we're just starting so right now it's not real important, but later on it's nice to see where everyone is at in their watching.

yeah, I can do that.

[HashtagBrownies]

Official Review

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Quite a great film, though it didn't deserve all those Oscars (Give the Exorcist a chance!) This feels like a perfectly constructed film. The theme song, costume design and script make for a perfect atmosphere. The actors are good. The story is fantastic, you are constantly on the edge of your seat.
4

[HashtagBrownies]

Official Review

36132

Did it deserve all those Ocars? Most of them,Henry should have won the supporting role Oscar though. The introduction is simple and straight forward, introducing us to the plot immediately. The story is wonderful. Dustin Hoffman’s and Justin Henry's performance are amazing, their interactions feel so realistic, making the ending almost tearjerking.

4

[HashtagBrownies]

First new film of the HoF

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Orson Welles certainly has an art for his narration, his black suit, big beard and attire really draw your attention to him. He takes what would be an average TV documentary and keeps it interesting with the fast paced editing and monologues. It was interesting to hear about the forgeries and Welles’ experience in Ireland. There is some quite beautiful imagery. Orson Welles monologues about art are extremely beautiful.

4

Also that monkey is very cute!
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[Citizen Rules]

HashtagBrownies

Did you watch F for Fake on DVD? If so did you watch the extras? I found the DVD extras to be really good. Oh and thanks for playing along when I 'claimed';) F for Fake was mine...:p

[Joel]

Kramer vs. Kramer (1979)


EDIT

I just liked this movie. It made me choke up. I want to keep things simple and not analyze this to death so I'll say that I thought Hoffman and Streep do amazing work, as well as Justin Henry, who isn't just a cardboard kid. That kicked things up considerably.


I enjoyed the way this film was constructed. It deals the cards out in typical linear narrative fashion, but though the speed of each falling scene, and the content within each scene may seem loose, these scenes absolutely tell nothing but the story, offering key components within each to give perspective for an effortless watch. And there's not a thing wrong with an effortless watch when your emotions are being tested.


Ted Kramer is a work-a-holic, but soon becomes a very competent father. After a painful breakfast scene that has him cooking eggshells and folding french toast, we see him transform, and when he does transform, he never loses his edge. Sure his boss is concerned, and Ted does fumble the ball a couple of times, leading to his dismissal from his job, but when pressed to acquire employment for custody of his son, he goes into the ring, comes out with one hand raised and bee lines for the prettiest girl in the room and lays one on her.


Joanna Kramer is conflicted. She feels aside from her husband and she doesn't have the nerve to really break through to him, so she skips town leaving her son in his father's care. After she moves on for several months, breaking a year into another, she feels recharged and full of confidence. But is it just a trick of the mind, and is she really ready to be a parent to her child?


I know there were criticisms about her character being demonized, and blah, and blah again. Like a broken record, I have to remind some of these premature and dismissive opinions that this is a story about a marriage and the loyalty of parenthood, the responsibility, the bad decisions, the realizations, and the fact that no one gender is more apt than another, in general. To simply point to Kramer vs. Kramer as being "misogynistic" is just brain dead thinking, and it almost always comes from thinkers who are only reacting with a jerky knee about their own repressed guilt, phobias or experiences.


I think this picture is a winner, not necessarily for this HOF, but as a film that got attention, and continues to do so. It's about real things and it's told in a very moving, yet straightforward way, and those are the kinds of films I like best.


Give me a down to earth, charming, funny, entertaining and heart wrenching every day human being and add a few others around them, and you have yourself a good formula for a good movie, and Kramer vs. Kramer is a damn good movie.

[HashtagBrownies]

HashtagBrownies

Did you watch F for Fake on DVD? If so did you watch the extras? I found the DVD extras to be really good.

Nope, I rented it on ITunes.

Oh and thanks for playing along when I 'claimed';) F for Fake was mine...:p

No prob Bob.

[HashtagBrownies]

Kramer vs. Kramer (1979)

I've seen it already, but I'm glad you've nominated it, we'll be able to hear everyone's thoughts on it.

[Joel]

Quite a great film, though it didn't deserve all those Oscars (Give the Exorcist a chance!) This feels like a perfectly constructed film. The theme song, costume design and script make for a perfect atmosphere. The actors are good. The story is fantastic, you are constantly on the edge of your seat.
rating_4

Your simple review was right to the point, and now I want to see this again. I'll be honest, I was kind of not wanting to because I saw it at age 11 and ,..well..

[Joel]

I've seen it already, but I'm glad you've nominated it, we'll be able to hear everyone's thoughts on it.

Yeah, I've been wanting to see it again and really glad I did.

[HashtagBrownies]

Your simple review was right to the point.

Mostly because that's all I had to say about the film. I personally focus on the entertainment value more than the technical value of films. But I can't just say "It was double-plus good' for every review, haha.

[Joel]

Mostly because that's all I had to say about the film. I personally focus on the entertainment value more than the technical value of films. But I can't just say "It was double-plus good' for every review, haha.

Very true on both points. I could afford to say less, myself. I'm a bit of a film geek, though. I'm into the construction even though I'm no expert. :)

[edarsenal]

what I enjoy is there no specific formula and everyone is free to express in their own form and fashion. Whether it is a breakdown of character, story, technical aspect or simply how they "felt" or personal thoughts; it's all a good read and great discussion.

btw, Joel, really enjoyed the heartfelt review of Kramer vs Kramer.

[Citizen Rules]

Guys, I will read each of your reviews after I watched the movie. I figure if you take the time to write it, I should read it! You will know I've read it when you get a rep. I don't care if you hate a movie that I love, you still get a rep anyway, just for being honest.:)

[edarsenal]

http://www.standbyformindcontrol.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Sorcerer_Trucking_Movies.jpg


Sorcerer

NO SPOILERS!

Come! Come my friends to South America and enjoy the beautiful jungles, the glorious mountains, and, hey, why not take it all in on a scenic, leisurely drive on our well-kept roadways.

What an incredible and intense film!

I have been up and down with nominations from cricket and at this time THIS as been my favorite so far.
From the opening story lines of the men and why they are in the jungles in South America; the tension is strung tight til we find them, scorched, nearly broken and desperate in a small town that is part of the pipeline and the abhorrent dangers involved in working on it.
Soon, the stakes are raised when a shipment of highly volatile nitro needs to be driven, by broken down monsters of trucks, some 2 hundred miles.
And I gotta tell ya, considering all the CGI, over the top, suspension of belief situations that play out in recent films, they have nothing compared to that final ride through jungle, up side of mountains, and - holy crap, that swinging bridge they had to get over!!

As a story and as a movie, this is really an intense and engulfing ride that also pulls you into the sweltering heat, the pain, frustration and the nerve-racking fear that the characters are subjected to throughout.

I won't go into the ending and will simply say it was befitting for the arduous journey of this story.

Roy Scheider was his usual best and he had an excellent crew and locals to really bring all that this movie had to offer.

As more people watch this, I'll happily go into the ambiance and details that also added to my watching pleasure.

Till then, f@ckin d@mn good nomination, cricket!! and an excellent start for my movie watching of this HoF.

[HashtagBrownies]

I'm not gonna read any reviews of films I haven't seen yet.

Wait patiently children.

[edarsenal]

http://classiq.me/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Style-in-film-Robert-Redford-in-Three-Days-Of-The-Condor-1.jpg


Three Days of the Condor

SPOILERS

I have been a fan of Redford for -- well, my entire life. From a tyke around 3 and seeing Butch Cassidy & The Sundance Kid at the drive-in. Especially when it came to ones where his character thought on his feet. Like Spy Game, Sneakers, The Sting, and of course, in this movie. Not sure what it is, but there is something inherently captivating at watching this man play games of intrigue and chance, and this is a brilliant display of that charm, quick-wit and clever maneuverability that any one of his characters seems to excel at.

In this one, he is a bookworm that reads books for the CIA and on one fateful day, he goes out to lunch and comes back to find everyone he works with, dead.

The chase is on.

While this is a spy film, there may be those who think the pacing may be slow, not for me. Like any good spy flick, there are layers, variable players and shifting alliances and we get to watch Redford's character make some very intelligent, almost detective-like moves to circumvent his way to stay alive and find out: not only why, but the deeper truth of it all, in a world of suspicion and mistrust. And some of his moves are some truly clever ones.

With him is the beautiful Faye Dunaway, the cavalier Max Von Sydow (who's character, in retrospect is a future mirror of where Redford's character could, one day, become) and finally, Cliff Roberston attempting to keep things in order before things boil over.

it was something to think about when Redford's character demands to know from Robertson's character if the US has plans to attack the Middle East and he denies it. And since, in the end, it was about oil, it has all kinds of significance to the following decades but one far too political to get into.
The final moments when Robertson plants a seed of doubt in Redford about whether or not the news would even print the story he gave them, makes for an excellent ending. Would they, indeed?

This was an excellent revisit, one that was WAY past due. Thank you, so very much, Nestorio_Miklos for nominating this.

[Velvet]

gonna type my fantastic planet review

[Velvet]

Fantastic Planet


Just recently I had the pleasure of being able to go see Fantastic planet in a theater environment, It also happened to be a 4k restoration of the movie. I was pretty excited to go to see it, I specifically tried to go into it blind and not watch the trailer or read up on it. As for the movie itself Im not quite sure of my feelings. It is at times amazing and others dull. The animation itself is unique in that it is quite stationary. For most of the movie there is one or two characters moving while the background remains stiff, and while it can be breathtaking at times it was overall disappointing. As for pacing the moving dosnt exceede. It is at times boring, especially in the scenes with nothing but the wooden voice actors relaying pointless info to eatchother. What I wanted when I came into this film was a surreal experience filled with amazing animation. The problem is it never truly reaches a feeling of surrealness and in times feel all to much "normal", especially in the beginning parts.

This does not mean the movie isn't amazing at times, Just look at these breathtaking shots

http://weirdfictionreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/51hZ7Q9YmTtqUsYNIXcQ04zB3G9.jpg

https://videowordmadefleshdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/fantastic-planet.png

I just felt that fantastic planet lacked consistency in terms of quality. While its animation is sometimes lackluster and voice acting wooden it is also sometimes amazing and beautiful when it decides to indulge in wonderful imagery. I would give a middling score but It could also go up on a rewatch

[edarsenal]

Velvet, did you see it in French with subtitles, or was it dubbed in English. The voicing in dubbing rarely does it for me.

Solid review though

[Velvet]

Velvet, did you see it in French with subtitles, or was it dubbed in English. The voicing in dubbing rarely does it for me.

Solid review though



would never watch it dubbed

[edarsenal]

GOOD FOR YOU!!
Haven't seen this since I was in my late teens, early twenties so I honestly can't remember the voice acting except there seemed to be a disembodied solemness to it all. Will be thinking about that and commenting when I watch it.

[Velvet]

Dog day afternoon should be next up for me

[Citizen Rules]

I'll try Fantastic Planet in English dubbed. I mean the French is dubbed too, unless they shot this on the real Fantastic Planet:D

[Velvet]

although the french voice acting is stiff its probably not worse than the dubbing

[Velvet]

I just wanna say Im open to hosting a 20s,30s,60s hof. Maybe a genre hof or something else 2


Also when is the foreign language hof happening

[Joel]

I want to watch Sorcerer next but the version I have access to has an unforgivable "slice" problem with audio. Sounds like a dj imported the soundtrack into their sampler and is learning dubstep so...I'll keep scavenging for it. Seems much to good a movie to settle for less than stellar quality, judging from the couple seconds of the opening, plus..TANGERINE DREAM does the score!!

[edarsenal]

I started watching The Sting last night but I need to watch Empire of Passions for the 14th, since it's due back at the library.

[CosmicRunaway]

Also when is the foreign language hof happening
Maybe after this one wraps?

I'm open to suggestions about when an appropriate time would be.

[edarsenal]

Maybe after this one wraps?

I'm open to suggestions about when an appropriate time would be.

For me, I waited to well over half to 2/3 done for the 14th and just kept checking with everyone if it felt like a good time.
I did extend this to give everyone time for the Holidays, so you/we can, on occasion bring it up in discussion here and see where everyone is and adjust the time frame with what works for you. Which is the paramount issue. When you feel you can dedicate the time and energy to host.

I have enjoyed spreading these out a little so that the stress and the pressure to hurry up and watch 'em is extremely low.

Were you thinking of doing a broad, open span of countries or perhaps centralizing it to a specific region/continent?
I know there's been talk about both.

[CosmicRunaway]

Were you thinking of doing a broad, open span of countries or perhaps centralizing it to a specific region/continent?
I know there's been talk about both.
I think in the organization thread, most agreed that a broader range was best, and that a more limited region/language specific one could be done later if the first is a success.

[Citizen Rules]

Maybe after this one wraps?
I'm open to suggestions about when an appropriate time would be.I'm in, whenever you do it. It might not have that many people joining, so maybe you can shoehorn it in while other stuff is going on. I would say in about 6 weeks, this Hof will be slowing down as the fastest members get close to completing it.

...When you feel you can dedicate the time and energy to host... Good advice!

[edarsenal]

I think in the organization thread, most agreed that a broader range was best, and that a more limited region/language specific one could be done later if the first is a success.
Cool, I was curious to see what direction you were leaning in. Definitely works for me.

I'm in, whenever you do it. It might not have that many people joining, so maybe you can shoehorn it in while other stuff is going on. I would say in about 6 weeks, this Hof will be slowing down as the fastest members get close to completing it.
That is an excellent point

[Velvet]

Finished dog day, write up soon

[Citizen Rules]

Velvet, you're fast!

[edarsenal]

I know, Velvet is a man on a mission!! lol

[Velvet]

Thanks guys. Really cool im allowed to do this, really enjoying it!

[edarsenal]

Very happy to see you fitting in quite nicely. Thank YOU :)

[Velvet]

Dog Day Afternoon

Dog Day Afternoon is a crime drama that has a very nice first half but slowly drops off in the second. I enjoyed this films slow burn approach but I felt it became slightly dull and tedious as it entered the second half. Besides that problem it is still very well acted and manages to create some nice tension at moments. Also unknown to me it tackled some LGBT topics and for the 1970's managed to not be very offensive. I also think that Al Pacino's character was handled pretty well as I felt he was surprisingly likable. Overall Dog Day Afternoon is a well made crime drama that has some nice tense moments and is also well acted but could have been slightly shorter.

I would give the film 3 or 3 and half stars out of five.

[Velvet]

maybe warriors tonight

[Citizen Rules]

HashtagBrownies 5/14

Damn that boy's fast! Even faster than Velvet.... And myself? I've seen 0 so far, but I'll start watching real soon:)

[CosmicRunaway]

Out of curiosity, does anyone know what the record is for the quickest run through all the nominations?

[Citizen Rules]

Out of curiosity, does anyone know what the record is for the quickest run through all the nominations?Miss Vicky has been pretty quick to watch all the noms, but I think Hashtagbrowies is going to get the record.

[edarsenal]

Out of curiosity, does anyone know what the record is for the quickest run through all the nominations?
and I've seen camo do a rapid fire on one or two as well.

[Velvet]

maybe double feature for me to try and get ahead of hashtag

[edarsenal]

the race is on!!
https://68.media.tumblr.com/9143fb58c1513efad02d5207137a2bdd/tumblr_oqs5hiiFiA1rjgjc7o2_500.gif

[HashtagBrownies]

HashtagBrownies 5/14

Damn that boy's fast!

Well I had already seen 4 of the films before. :)

[HashtagBrownies]

maybe double feature for me to try and get ahead of hashtag

the race is on!!


Oh crap, I didn't know this was a race!
https://i.imgur.com/KEbPDaP.gif

[HashtagBrownies]

I think Hashtagbrowies is going to get the record.

I don't think so, I had already watched 4/5 films I wrote the write up on, so i'll probably take my time with this list.

[Velvet]

if you search google for sorcerer the wages of fear criterion pic comes up :laugh:

[Velvet]

warriors kramer vs kramer double feature maybe

[cricket]

if you search google for sorcerer the wages of fear criterion pic comes up :laugh:

Sorcerer is a remake of Wages of Fear

[Velvet]

interesting wasn't aware of that.

[Velvet]

maybe no double feature maybe not even 1. Downloads taking forever!!

[Yam12]

Rewatched Eraserhead. Will get up my thoughts soon

[Velvet]

finished condor

[edarsenal]

looks like I have two reviews to look forward to. Curious to see what you think of Condor, Velvet and very intrigued about how you feel about your nom, Yam12. Always enjoy seeing through that person's eyes before delving into a movie I haven't seen yet.

[Velvet]

finished kramer vs kramer

[Velvet]

three days of the condor

The movie follows Condor (Robert Redford) a CIA Employee as he try's to stay hidden and figure out why all of his co-workers were murdered. This movie is a fun piece of paranoia and is at times very tense. Although it does run slightly too long it is still a solid film. It truly builds a world where trust is non existent and is effective at making you feel like everybody is out to get you. It is well acted but I did think that Faye Dunaway who plays the part of a woman who gets caught up in the situation lacked chemistry with Robert Redford . I really enjoyed certain parts of it especially some of the assassination attempts on Robert Redford. Overall it is a well acted thriller that is just slightly too long.

I would give it 3 or 3 and a half stars out of 5.

[Velvet]

Kramer vs Kramer

I really enjoyed this film. It deals with the situation of too parents splitting up very effectively in my opinion. One reason I liked it was how it never takes a side and try's to express the emotions of both parents. it starts off with Dustin Hoffman just trying to understand the emotions his son feels and how to be the best parent he can after his wife (Meryl Streep) leaves him abruptly. At first he struggles a good amount but eventually over time he is able to build his relationship with his son. more than a year later his wife reappears into the situation and eventually gets a lawyer to go to court for the sons custody. The scenes of the trial are the best part of the movie. We truly feel both sides emotions. We watch as both lawyers emotionally break down each parent and the ruthlessness of custody battles is truly put on display. Through Facial shots of both Dustin Hoffman and Meryl Streep we are able to feel the pain each other feels. As each one of them have their parental skills criticized and ripped apart we see just how much it pains them to watch the other having this done to them. I think this is a strong drama and is both patient and effective with with the material it is working with.

I would give this film 3 and a half to 4 stars out of five

[Velvet]

finished sorcerer

also why is this thread so dead

[cricket]

finished sorcerer

also why is this thread so dead

You're just blowing it away.

[Joel]

maybe double feature for me to try and get ahead of hashtag

the race is on!!


Oh crap, I didn't know this was a race!
https://i.imgur.com/KEbPDaP.gif

That sht is fckn funny hahaha!

[Velvet]

Sorcerer

I just want to start off by saying that the audio on my download was pretty bad so I definitely missed dialogue. As for the film it starts off trying to be an arty movie but fails and then transitions into a much more straightforward action/thriller. Throughout the film it struggles with pacing issues and at times feels a bit choppy. In the latter half their is some nice set pieces specifically the bridge scene but the first half couldn't help but leave a bad taste in my mouth. Overall this film struggles with its identity and has pacing issues but the second half transition allows for a much more solid film.

Overall I would give it a 2 and a half stars out of five

[rauldc14]

For personal reasons, I think I am going to drop out of this Hall of Fame. I may have a change of heart, but a series of things has me not wanting to participate in this. Sorry.

[Velvet]

For personal reasons, I think I am going to drop out of this Hall of Fame. I may have a change of heart, but a series of things has me not wanting to participate in this. Sorry.

:( sorry to hear that

[Velvet]

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f for fake avi if anybody wants it

[CosmicRunaway]

f for fake avi if anybody wants it
Citizen actually used that image as an avatar before, I think.

[Velvet]

its so pretty, think ill use it after I watch the film

[CosmicRunaway]

Have you thought about posting the avatars you keep making in one of the avatar threads? Anyone looking for an avatar likely wouldn't look in Survivor or one of the HoFs. If you wanted to share them widely, that is, not just with the people here.

[Joel]

I'm taking this HOF reeeeaaallllll slowwww....just like a 70's movie :D

[edarsenal]

For personal reasons, I think I am going to drop out of this Hall of Fame. I may have a change of heart, but a series of things has me not wanting to participate in this. Sorry.

Very sorry to hear that, but I DO understand. Hope your okay and things work out.

[Citizen Rules]

I need a link to watch Investigation of a Citizen Above Suspicion (1970) If anybody can help PM me, thanks

[cricket]

I need a link to watch Investigation of a Citizen Above Suspicion (1970) If anybody can help PM me, thanks

I will look, just have my head up my ass at the moment.

[cricket]

I need a link to watch Investigation of a Citizen Above Suspicion (1970) If anybody can help PM me, thanks

So far I'm only finding Netflix DVD and iTunes.

[HashtagBrownies]

I need a link to watch Investigation of a Citizen Above Suspicion (1970) If anybody can help PM me, thanks

Do you have a Region 1/Region Free Blu-Ray player Citizen? Because if you do, you could buy a Criterion collection copy on Amazon.

[Yam12]

So if Raul has dropped put does that mean Fantastic Planet is disqualified?

[HashtagBrownies]

So if Raul has dropped put does that mean Fantastic Planet is disqualified?

I hope not, and if it is...

https://media.giphy.com/media/9G7mk7nkSJSyQ/giphy.gif

[edarsenal]

I'm just hearing about this and want to look into it a bit more before taking "official" action in what ever way rauldc14 is best comfortable with.

In the meantime, what'd you have in mind, HashtagBrownies?

[HashtagBrownies]

what'd you have in mind, HashtagBrownies?

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[matt72582]

Red Psalm - 3/10

The longest 80 minutes of my life. It was nothing but dancing and cliched Communist chants.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5c/Red_Psalm_FilmPoster.jpeg

[edarsenal]

36274
were you looking to change yours? Or. . .?

[HashtagBrownies]

were you looking to change yours? Or. . .?

Nope, I was just making a suggestion if Raul's pick doesn't count anymore.

[edarsenal]

Red Psalm - 3/10

The longest 80 minutes of my life. It was nothing but dancing and cliched Communist chants.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5c/Red_Psalm_FilmPoster.jpeg

sorry to hear that.
I do see Velvet is on temporary ban so if everyone else wishes to hold off on this movie til it gets resolved, in whatever fashion. please do.

[HashtagBrownies]

It was nothing but dancing and cliched Communist chants.

So what's an original Communist chant? :lol:

[Camo]

Nope, I was just making a suggestion if Raul's pick doesn't count anymore.

You usually just move on without adding a new one. It doesn't sound like Raul has completely made up his mind however.

sorry to hear that.
I do see Velvet is on temporary ban so if everyone else wishes to hold off on this movie til it gets resolved, in whatever fashion. please do.

Think it's only for a day or two.

[edarsenal]

You usually just move on without adding a new one. It doesn't sound like Raul has completely made up his mind however.

Think it's only for a day or two.

thanks camo!

spoke with Raul and want him to have all the time he wishes to decide, and better to wait and see how it all comes out.

[Yam12]

Just asking but if a member does drop out does that mean the deadline changes or does it stay the same?

[matt72582]

So this is the 2nd one I watched for nothing? .......

I'm out.

[cricket]

So this is the 2nd one I watched for nothing? .......

I'm out.

He'll be back and has already watched like 6 of the nominations.

[edarsenal]

So this is the 2nd one I watched for nothing? .......

I'm out.
all of that IS still up in the air and time will tell.. . .

[edarsenal]

Just asking but if a member does drop out does that mean the deadline changes or does it stay the same?
considering the Holidays, I may leave it as is and, should folks knock them out before that time, then, well, that's kinda obvious.

[Yam12]

I've watched The Warriors taking me up to 2/14. I'm planning to post reviews of both that and Eraserhead, as well as anything else I watch at the end of the week.

[Joel]

There should be 1970's Best Bush HOF.

[edarsenal]

There should be 1970's Best Bush HOF.

I could totally get into that! [rim shot]

[Citizen Rules]

Thanks everyone for the help on Investigation of a Citizen Above Suspicion (1970) I think I have that covered, at least I hope I do.

[edarsenal]

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-oLUJ24QTx2s/V6H89WkLIwI/AAAAAAAA1Wo/NzoKylRVoEAZkg_2TbYIoZ6pX4Odkf0YACLcB/s1600/the%2Bsting%2Bc.jpg


The Sting

"Your boss is quite the card player, Mr. Kelly. How does he do it?"
"He cheats."

With my favorite line of a favorite movie is a prime presentation of what this movie is about.
As stated previously, I've loved this movie since childhood. A pairing of two great actors, Robert Redford and Paul Newman that comes a very tight second to their first pairing; Butch Cassidy & The Sundance Kid. God only knows how many times I've seen this and I know it front to back, in and out and while I could have easily wrote a review without a rewatch, why on earth would I pass an opportunity NOT to watch it.

This, may or may not have instilled a fondness for Grifter movies but they truly do a wonderful tip of the hat to the Con and those who were at the top of the trade way back in the day. For this movie, the mid 30's in Chicago. Which was an ideal location as we get to meet a small timer, (Redford) running a game on bag runner for the wrong man (Robert Shaw). Though, technically, this part happens outside Chicago in Joliet, but that's purely a technicality.
From there, Redford's character goes to meet an old time, big con expert, for revenge, (Newman) and they go to work on Shaw.

From there, it is a razor's edge that is danced upon to get to the final big con with, not only Shaw's character; Lonnegan's thugs, but a bunco cop (Charles Durning) chasing down Redford's Hooker. All of it done with some lovely placards opening up each new chapter and the now famous "The Entertainer" played on piano. Also, the remaking of old time Chicago is really done well. From the clothing, to streets and buildings, its all quite impressive.

Through the twists of the con are some very funny moments along with some delightful little nuances played out in the actors' eyes as the game gets played out. And I would be remissed not to salute the secondary actors who, all do a splendid job; from Eileen Brennen to Ray Walston and the dapper Harold Gould.

As I've said, this is a favorite and I hope others enjoy this as well. Thanks Jay Redrum for nominating such a fun and enjoyable movie!

[Citizen Rules]

I just watched Sorcerer and read this review.
As for the film it starts off trying to be an arty movie but fails and then transitions into a much more straightforward action/thriller. Throughout the film it struggles with pacing issues and at times feels a bit choppy. In the latter half their is some nice set pieces specifically the bridge scene but the first half couldn't help but leave a bad taste in my mouth. Overall this film struggles with its identity and has pacing issues but the second half transition allows for a much more solid film.

Overall I would give it a 2 and a half stars out of five What does that mean exactly. How about elaborating with more details. What you wrote is so generic, that it sounds like it could fit any movie.

[Citizen Rules]

Sorcerer
I have been up and down with nominations from cricket and at this time THIS as been my favorite so far....@cricket (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=68505)I'm going to write my review of Sorcerer as soon as I wake up. I just got up a bit ago and haven't even finished my iced mocha yet:sleep:

You're right...Sorcerer is the best Cricket nomination! I loved the movie...And as a nomination it's very unique and one I had only heard about it for the first time a few weeks ago when ironically I was looking for obscure but good 1970s films for this very Hof. Thats when I found an article on IndieWire that mentioned Sorcerer.

IndieWire
10 Great Overlooked Films From The 1970s (http://www.indiewire.com/2014/04/10-great-overlooked-films-from-the-1970s-86740/)

BTW, there's a number of under seen great 1970s films in that article. If you look at my Top 10 you will see one of them there.

[edarsenal]

great little article, Citizen Rules! Johnny Got His Gun is an amazing and emotional movie; one that was on my considering list for this. And Robin & Marian was my One Pointer in the 70s Countdown. It didn't mention that playing King Richard was Richard Harris who utterly stole the opening scene with his presence.

[Citizen Rules]

great little article, @Citizen Rules (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=84637)! Johnny Got His Gun is an amazing and emotional movie; one that was on my considering list for this. And Robin & Marian was my One Pointer in the 70s Countdown. It didn't mention that playing King Richard was Richard Harris who utterly stole the opening scene with his presence.I've had my eye on Johnny Got His Gun for awhile now, as it's a Dalton Trumbo story. I've seen Robin & Marian it's nicely done too. I watched it when I was on an Audrey Hepburn kick. I think it was her last movie:( Too lazy to look those facts up. I had noticed it was your one pointer:up:

[matt72582]

Johnny Got His Gun is a great underrated gem.

[Camo]

10 Great Overlooked Films From The 1970s (http://www.indiewire.com/2014/04/10-great-overlooked-films-from-the-1970s-86740/)



I'm watching Martin in the next few days. Think it looks interesting from the trailer, not a typical vampire film:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SwXSiGpCxc

[Citizen Rules]

Cool, I'll be interested in hearing what your thoughts are on it.

[Sexy Celebrity]

10 Great Overlooked Films From The 1970s (http://www.indiewire.com/2014/04/10-great-overlooked-films-from-the-1970s-86740/)



I'm watching Martin in the next few days. Think it looks interesting from the trailer, not a typical vampire film:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SwXSiGpCxc
Oh, that does look good. I’m sure you will love it.

[cat_sidhe]

Oh, that does look good. I’m sure you will love it.

It IS good. I've got it on a rewatch this month.

[edarsenal]

I've had my eye on Johnny Got His Gun for awhile now, as it's a Dalton Trumbo story. I've seen Robin & Marian it's nicely done too. I watched it when I was on an Audrey Hepburn kick. I think it was her last movie:( Too lazy to look those facts up. I had noticed it was your one pointer:up:

Johnny Got His Gun is a great underrated gem.
VERY, VERY true, Matt. Out of all the ones I thought over, this is the one I regret the most over not choosing.
And yes, Citizen, I do believe it'll be one you would thoroughly enjoy.
I'm watching Martin in the next few days. Think it looks interesting from the trailer, not a typical vampire film:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SwXSiGpCxc
That does look intriguing, camo and from what sexy and cat says, I'm looking forward to what you have to say about it.

One movie that caught my eye, and I swear it sounds familiar, is The Outfit. May have to go looking for that one.

[Citizen Rules]

https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=36315&stc=1&d=1507679040

Sorcerer (1978)

This was amazing on so many different levels that I don't know where to begin!

Beautiful filmed! And I don't mean the lush jungle and I don't mean fancy camera work...I mean each scene starts with an establishing shot that looks like an award winning National Geographic photo. Being a long time still photographer myself, I noticed how special the camera shots were set up. @Joel (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=96380) will notice them too.

This is one of my favorites shots:
https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=36317&stc=1&d=1507680675


Look at how the camera is set up to shoot through a window that gives an illusion of a picture frame around the photo. I love that diagonal line that runs from the soldier in the foreground to the plane debris, to the plane in the background landing. That gives depth....Damn! that shot alone says so much. The soldier is kicked back casually drinking a soda pop while holding a gun... we can see the remnants of a crashed plane that no one has bothered to clean up...as another plane lands in this forgotten out of the way hell hole place.

The entire movie was like that and for me that was even better than the story. I was in a visual heaven!

The story itself was sophisticated. It sort of reminded me of The Guns of Navarone or The Dirty Dozen, where a rag tag band of misfits must go on a dangerous mission and risk their lives....but this is way different in that there are no heroes here and that's rare for films like this. The four men involved here are despicable. It's not like their rouges but still have a good side, they're murders and hardened thieves. The film makes an analogy that they've been sent to hell on Earth and there's no happy ending for these condemned men.

OMG! the special effects were huge, I don't recall ever seeing any practical effects done on this grand of scale. I mean they blow up an oil well with a monstrous fire ball!....and the trucks over the river on a swinging bridge, damn that was real! Real trucks, real bridge, real river in the real jungle! I've never seen anything like that before.

Everything is so impressive in this film. I could tell those jungles were real and not on a studio lot as I've been to the tropics and that's what they look like.

No CG here, and we'll never see a film made this big! It must have cost a fortune, the detail is amazing.

This is going to be one of my favorite films in this HoF.

[edarsenal]

I know exactly what you mean, Citizen, Sorcerer, so far, is the definite unearthed gem of this HoF for me.

[edarsenal]

finished Dog Day Afternoon but it'll be tomorrow before I can post a review.

[Citizen Rules]

I know exactly what you mean, Citizen, Sorcerer, so far, is the definite unearthed gem of this HoF for me.I made a bunch of screen shots of Sorcerer. Tell me if these don't look like award winning photos.

https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=36322&stc=1&d=1507687386
https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=36323&stc=1&d=1507687395
https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=36324&stc=1&d=1507687402

Those are just the portraits, there's a lot of great shots of landscape and still life in the movie.

[edarsenal]

some VERY memorable people in that movie and yes, some truly great composition are throughout the entire film.
like this one I used for my review
http://www.standbyformindcontrol.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Sorcerer_Trucking_Movies.jpg

[Joel]

Citizen Rules. My plan is to read your review as soon as I finish Sorcere. Its due tomorrow to be finished. Ill write my thoughts and then jump immediately over to your review for maximum effect.

I admit i am excited to see and HEAR this movie. Tangerine Dream buh buh!

[CaptainT]

I'm going to watch F for Fake tonight!

[edarsenal]

http://images4.static-bluray.com/reviews/56_1.jpg


Dog Day Afternoon

This is a very powerful performance by Al Pacino, and that's saying something since pretty much everything this man has done is easily describable as powerful.
But, still, the tension, the fear and the near panic to keep it together exudes from the mad looks in his eyes during this failed bank robbery that is strongly based on an actual attempted robbery/hostage situation.

There is a dark comedy mixing beneath the surface as things spirals nearly out of control as both Pacino's character, Sonny and, once more, playing a cop is Charles Durning doing his damnest to keep ***** from getting bloody, or worse.
When I'm mentioning actors, I must include Sonny's partner Sal, played by John Cazale who is most known as Fredo from The Godfather. Playing Sonny's reason for robbing the bank, is Chris Sarandon who completely nails it as a nervous wreck of a man in search of a sex change.
Also, keep an eye out for Lance Henriksen as one of the detectives and, for those who know her, Carol Kane as one of the hostages.

One of the incredible aspects is that how soon you care about Sonny's character as things go completely wrong and the police arrive and it becomes a hostage situation. You can argue that the sympathy comes with it being Pacino and we all like Pacino, but that sells it short.
It is HOW Pacino plays Sonny that we begin to root for him and cheer for him to make it out on the other side. Watch, and you will see.

Like the tag lines mention, this does become a media circus and the crowd outside go from cheering Sonny to jeering the police. It continually remains a volatile and explosive situation that, at any second can go south, VERY easily; and this tension stays and never eases up.

Along with this, is some very intriguing displays of, not only mob mentality and the circus that the media seems to know as the only protocol, but of those caught in the very center of it all. Those on both sides of the standoff, the police and the 6 women tellers and the manager being held captive as it all plays out.

I have seen this movie a number of times in my life and I'm VERY happy to have a reason to see it again. Thank you, CaptainT for nominating this.

[Joel]

Sorcerer (1977)
Director: William Friedkin

This was a surprise. I thought it was going to be something completely different. First off I have to say that there's that unmistakable 1970's era level of sophistication that comes through with the staging and directing of this film. Lots of erratic zooms and handheld juxtapose static shots with deep lighting, brilliant use of natural light, and carefully (I think) planned color schemes in the overall scene design. The sound plays a big part, too, since the threading of sound is run underneath scenes in such a way to give a carpet like flooring for everything to just kind of exist on top of. Lots of need for that since this is essentially a collection of scenes that are very disjointed but eventually lead to the ultimate adventure.

There are amazingly nuanced scenes that act as transitions that roar with the sound of fire or shriek with some effect for awakening from a nightmare.

The mission to take four men from different parts of the world and have them take refuge in a place to be hand picked for a suicide mission transporting turned nitro is a very unique premise. I haven't seen "Wages of Fear" so I feel like that may explain some of my issues with the film on a story level, or perhaps, better yet, an editing level. One thing this film does not do is spell everything out for the viewer. I kept thinking at how lucky I was to have an american in there once in a while putting some ketchup on my fries in the way of exposition, because I sure as hell couldn't understand about 60% of the dialog recording, accents, or even some of the dialog itself.

None of the deep and visceral ruminations of any one character, especially Roy Scheider's, had me informed on what exactly I was holding onto. I did not know much back story, if any at all, and it seemed that when the madness montage would happen, I'd just be kind of scratching my head. The film looked really beautiful with most scenes in some exotic location - interiors sometimes looking more exotic, and Tangerine Dream's minimalist score was kind of neat (if underwhelming), but I just couldn't feel the weight that was so clearly trying to break through like the tires of those laboring trucks on the wood bridges, which, was some of the most intense action at a slow pace I have seen, wow!

Sorcerer is everywhere and nowhere at the same time. Maybe that much I did get from the film. I felt like the animal that William Friedkin is as a director, and the team he composes to achieve his strong visual and rhythmic style, is enough to sell me that this is a masterpiece. However I also feel that this film is someone else's masterpiece. A masterpiece I may not quite fully understand, but a work of art I can at least glimpse at and feel from a considerable distance.

3.5
Me,...watching 'Sorcerer'.
https://i.imgur.com/6OgsGsV.png

[Joel]

https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=36315&stc=1&d=1507679040

Sorcerer (1978)

Being a long time still photographer myself, I noticed how special the camera shots were set up. @Joel (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=96380) will notice them too.

Yes, I did notice them, for sure! It was an incredibly visual film. Beautiful at almost every turn!

The story itself was sophisticated.

You said a mouthful!

The film makes an analogy that they've been sent to hell on Earth and there's no happy ending for this condemned men.

Well, I'll be damned! If you check my review, you'll see I didn't even make that connection. Thanks for giving me more perspective!

I don't recall ever seeing any practical effects done on this grand of scale. I mean they blow up an oil well with a monstrous fire ball!....and the trucks over the river on a swinging bridge, damn that was real! Real trucks, real bridge, real river in the real jungle! I've never seen anything like that before.

When those soldiers ran into the hut and IMMEDIATELY it blew up...that was a genius use of editing (I think)...it had to be! Jump cut masked by handheld work and the explosion distracting the eye from the seam? Hot shlt moment, nevertheless!



Great Review...some of my responses to you above in this post, in the quote...

[gbgoodies]

Has anyone seen both Wages of Fear and Sorcerer? I watched Wages of Fear a while back, and Sorcerer has been on my watchlist ever since then, so I'm curious if anyone can compare the two movies.

[Joel]

http://images4.static-bluray.com/reviews/56_1.jpg


Dog Day Afternoon

This is a very powerful performance by Al Pacino, and that's saying something since pretty much everything this man has done is easily describable as powerful.
But, still, the tension, the fear and the near panic to keep it together exudes from the mad looks in his eyes during this failed bank robbery that is strongly based on an actual attempted robbery/hostage situation.

There is a dark comedy mixing beneath the surface as things spirals nearly out of control as both Pacino's character, Sonny and, once more, playing a cop is Charles Durning doing his damnest to keep ***** from getting bloody, or worse.
When I'm mentioning actors, I must include Sonny's partner Sal, played by John Cazale who is most known as Fredo from The Godfather. Playing Sonny's reason for robbing the bank, is Chris Sarandon who completely nails it as a nervous wreck of a man in search of a sex change.
Also, keep an eye out for Lance Henriksen as one of the detectives and, for those who know her, Carol Kane as one of the hostages.

One of the incredible aspects is that how soon you care about Sonny's character as things go completely wrong and the police arrive and it becomes a hostage situation. You can argue that the sympathy comes with it being Pacino and we all like Pacino, but that sells it short.
It is HOW Pacino plays Sonny that we begin to root for him and cheer for him to make it out on the other side. Watch, and you will see.

Like the tag lines mention, this does become a media circus and the crowd outside go from cheering Sonny to jeering the police. It continually remains a volatile and explosive situation that, at any second can go south, VERY easily; and this tension stays and never eases up.

Along with this, is some very intriguing displays of, not only mob mentality and the circus that the media seems to know as the only protocol, but of those caught in the very center of it all. Those on both sides of the standoff, the police and the 6 women tellers and the manager being held captive as it all plays out.

I have seen this movie a number of times in my life and I'm VERY happy to have a reason to see it again. Thank you, CaptainT for nominating this.

Great review, Ed! Awesome that we're all getting into some killer 70's flicks! I think after I motorboat through Fantastic Planet, this'll be next.

You're right on the money with Pacino's acting chops. Would you say this period was his peak years?

[cricket]

Has anyone seen both Wages of Fear and Sorcerer? I watched Wages of Fear a while back, and Sorcerer has been on my watchlist ever since then, so I'm curious if anyone can compare the two movies.

I like Sorcerer much more but opinions are widely varied.

[edarsenal]

Great review, Ed! Awesome that we're all getting into some killer 70's flicks! I think after I motorboat through Fantastic Planet, this'll be next.

You're right on the money with Pacino's acting chops. Would you say this period was his peak years?

I would definitely say he was at his most adrenaline packed momentum with, what could be considered as a hefty chunk of his greatest list depending on one's preference.Where everyone mentions the movies during this decade when talking about their favorite Pacino movies.
For me, there seems to be this ascending hunger and drive into the characters he played. Where as, he arrived and was able to continue his artistic journey at his own leisure. If that makes any sense.

BTW, LOVED the nuances and descriptive style you write with. Describing the sound as a carpet effect and exploring the visual aspect of Sorcerer. Even talking about getting lost in some of it, perhaps a secondary view at some point may help that feeling? I've known a number of films where that was VERY necessary.

[Citizen Rules]

Joel, I agree with just about everything you said about Sorcerer. I think I liked it better than you, but I can see that you appreciated it the visual styles of Friedkin. I didn't rate it, but if I did it would be a rating_4++

This was a surprise. I thought it was going to be something completely different. When I started watching the movie and it was in Arabic and then in French, I though maybe I had got the wrong movie and I knew it was an English language film. It happened once before in an Hof that I watched the wrong film with the same title....but of course this was the right version I watched.


Lots of erratic zooms and handheld juxtapose static shots with deep lighting, brilliant use of natural light, and carefully (I think) planned color schemes in the overall scene design. I didn't notice any erratic zooms, not saying there weren't any, just that I don't remember that, and I do hate the overuse of a zoom lens on a film camera. B movies in the 70s were bad for that.


The 'handheld juxtapose static shots with deep lighting' would be want I called the National Geographic photo shots? I think we're talking about the same think. Stunning and I'm glad you mentioned the lighting as I noticed too that it was very efficiently lit and exposed. The film had a sort of dark, but still properly exposed look. I loved that look.


The sound plays a big part, too, since the threading of sound is run underneath scenes in such a way to give a carpet like flooring for everything to just kind of exist on top of. I know you're a musician so you're more in tune with that (no pun intended:p) than I am. But I did see you mention Tangerine Dream and I was vaguely familiar with them. I couldn't help but think of the synthesizer score as sounding like the score from The Warriors. Well you will see, err I mean hear what I mean.

One thing this film does not do is spell everything out for the viewer. None of the deep and visceral ruminations of any one character, especially Roy Scheider's, had me informed on what exactly I was holding onto. I did not know much back story, if any at all...I felt like the animal that William Friedkin is as a director, and the team he composes to achieve his strong visual and rhythmic style, is enough to sell me that this is a masterpiece.Very true. ...it's big of visuals, both grand action scenes, (like the drive over the narrow mountain ride, and the bridge) and the visual beauty of how it's filmed...and the beauty of the surrounding, but hellish jungle

[Jeff Costello]

So Fantasic Planet is officially disqualified, correct ?

[HashtagBrownies]

So Fantasic Planet is officially disqualified, correct ?

I don't think so. Ask Edar.

[Yam12]

I'm pretty sure raul said he's out so I'll hold off on Fantastic Planet until ed confirms it

[Citizen Rules]

I'm pretty sure raul said he's out so I'll hold off on Fantastic Planet until ed confirms itEd says he's giving Raul some time to think about rejoining. So I believe his nom is in limbo. I hope he comes back.

[Jeff Costello]

I already returned Fantastic Planet when I learned it was out of the tournament... In the future, I hope everyone can be considerate enough towards other participants and not change their participation status with the blow of the wind...

Meanwhile I finished Three Days of The Condor. Cool flick.

[Joel]

Even talking about getting lost in some of it, perhaps a secondary view at some point may help that feeling? I've known a number of films where that was VERY necessary.

I think that's something I'll most likely do since this movie was way too interesting to only see once.

[edarsenal]

I already returned Fantastic Planet when I learned it was out of the tournament... In the future, I hope everyone can be considerate enough towards other participants and not change their participation status with the blow of the wind...

Meanwhile I finished Three Days of The Condor. Cool flick.
very curious to see what you thought of Three Days of the Condor, Jeff.

And yes, unfortunately, on occasion for varying reasons, some folks DO quit a Hall of Fame. Though inconvenient for those who wish to participate and finish there are situations in all of our lives that bring this about.
Raul is a very dependable person and a long time HoF participant and Host, so, him possibly leaving isn't something he'd do lightly. Which is why I'm giving him some time to make a final decision.
Also, Matt, who nominated Harry and Tonto is having some issues and may be leaving and, like Raul, I'm giving him time to make a definitive decision.

[gbgoodies]

Has anyone seen both Wages of Fear and Sorcerer? I watched Wages of Fear a while back, and Sorcerer has been on my watchlist ever since then, so I'm curious if anyone can compare the two movies.

I like Sorcerer much more but opinions are widely varied.


Thanks for the info. I wasn't a fan of Wages of Fear, but I think that was mostly because it was subtitled, and at the time, I hadn't seen many subtitled movies so I had to get used to them. That's why I put Sorcerer on my watchlist. I thought there was a good chance that I would like the movie better if it was in English, and I like Roy Scheider.

[Jeff Costello]

Three Days of the Condor is a well-crafted, entertaining political thriller that sort of flew under the radar during the so called Golden Age of Hollywood. Uniformly good cast and cryptic, slow unraveling story are the main assets of the film and the biggest reasons why it is such engrossing watch. Robert Redford naturally carries the show, as a crafty CIA's researcher who becomes trapped behind the web of intrigue and political scandals. Accompanying him are Faye Dunaway and Max Von Sydow, both first-class actors and an excellent support to Redford. Max Von Sydow particularly excels as the well-composed, refined ,strictly professional hitman and I consider his scenes with Redford, as well as the game of cat and mouse between the two to be the most exciting moments in the film. Despite the lack of realism and being outdated in certain aspects, Three Days of the Condor definitely serves its purpose. It entertains, it captivates and it is a complete joy to watch.

Eraserhead is a primarily great exercise in atmposphere and a film I mostly admire for the conditions it was produced. I consider it to be the one of the most accurate depictions of a nightmare ever captured on screen and I appreciate the fact that this was David Lynch's most personal work in a way that it was a metaphor for his fear of fatherhood. However, I must mirror the aforomentioned statements and admit that Eraserhead is a definite chore to watch. The perpetual uncomfortable buzzing sounds and over the top surreal images with a total lack of subtlety are serious detriments which make the film borderline unwatchable. On top of that, it is mostly boring and filled with bunch of incoherent, nonsensical, inexplicable sequences that appeared to be randomly thrown in the film, something that Lynch constantly does and later sells it as abstract high-art. I'm not really trying to denigrate Lynch, but when his work descends into pretention and self-indulgence, it ends up being mostly underwhelming.

[Jeff Costello]

I'm having some difficulties with Harry and Tonto. The subtitles work flawlessly on my laptop, but when I tested the film on a TV they were out of sync for whatever reason. I really don't know what the deal is.

[cricket]

I'm having some difficulties with Harry and Tonto. The subtitles work flawlessly on my laptop, but when I tested the film on a TV they were out of sync for whatever reason. I really don't know what the deal is.

Hold off, I believe Matt dropped out, although it's well worth watching anyway.

[rauldc14]

I already returned Fantastic Planet when I learned it was out of the tournament... In the future, I hope everyone can be considerate enough towards other participants and not change their participation status with the blow of the wind...

Meanwhile I finished Three Days of The Condor. Cool flick.

No offense Jeff but I have completed every single Hall of Fame that I have been in. I just didn't want to drag myself into a Hall of Fame that I'm not 100% sure my heart will be into and I'm also worried about others not finishing which lead me to requesting a drop out a few days into the HOF. I was having a few rough days on the forum but I got my swagger back after a commentary with Swan. I'm sorry and yes I agree that dropouts suck but I probably have the greatest track record here (other than maybe Cricket).

I was going to think about it these next couple days and if it was doable I was going to try to watch a few films and make an official determination on whether I could do this or not. If you have already returned it and are upset than I can officially declare myself out, it's no big deal.

[cricket]

Will be kicking this off with my own nom this weekend

[Jeff Costello]

No offense Jeff but I have completed every single Hall of Fame that I have been in. I just didn't want to drag myself into a Hall of Fame that I'm not 100% sure my heart will be into and I'm also worried about others not finishing which lead me to requesting a drop out a few days into the HOF. I was having a few rough days on the forum but I got my swagger back after a commentary with Swan. I'm sorry and yes I agree that dropouts suck but I probably have the greatest track record here (other than maybe Cricket).

I was going to think about it these next couple days and if it was doable I was going to try to watch a few films and make an official determination on whether I could do this or not. If you have already returned it and are upset than I can officially declare myself out, it's no big deal.

That's none of my business. Problematics surrounding your return are entirely up to the curator. I will obviously retrieve the film if you decide to get back.

[Jeff Costello]

Hold off, I believe Matt dropped out, although it's well worth watching anyway.

I didn't know that. I'm going to watch Harry and Tonto regardless, since it was the nomination I was looking forward to the most.

[Citizen Rules]

So I guess we're talking about HoF drop outs.

I can vouch for Raul, he's been a great Hof member...and he left for personal reasons which I can understand....And he left at the very beginning before anyone watched his film, which is the way to do it if you have to leave an Hof...so I consider that a 'withdraw' and not a 'drop out' and I'm happy to have Raul in the next HoF:)

This Hof has lots of new members, which is great, but they do have a higher chance of dropping out. If they leave at the beginning that's much better, than just quitting without telling anyone, which then forces everyone else to watch their movies and puts a burden on the host as to what to do about it...So, I'm OK with Matt and Raul leaving at the start, at least they were honest about it.

My advice is to save the movies from the new members until towards the end, in case they drop out. And look at the 1st post to see who's watching the movies, and who ain't.

[edarsenal]

I had post after Jeff Costello voiced his concerns:
"And yes, unfortunately, on occasion for varying reasons, some folks DO quit a Hall of Fame. Though inconvenient for those who wish to participate and finish there are situations in all of our lives that bring this about.
Raul is a very dependable person and a long time HoF participant and Host, so, him possibly leaving isn't something he'd do lightly. Which is why I'm giving him some time to make a final decision.
Also, Matt, who nominated Harry and Tonto is having some issues and may be leaving and, like Raul, I'm giving him time to make a definitive decision."

And I REALLY should have put a mention for everyone so that it wasn't missed by anyone and so on that score, that is my fault.
As Host I SHOULD have done that and made notes by their nominations regarding it. I didn't. I left them up in hopes things will resolve and we all would continue as is.
That was just bad Hosting on my part.
I will now post mentions, to be sure everyone is properly aware of where we are at.
rauldc14, Yam12, Citizen Rules, Jay Redrum, Joel, matt72582, cricket, HashtagBrownies, Velvet, AlexWilder, CaptainT, Jeff Costello, Nestorio_Miklos 0/14

Everyone has valid reasons for how they feel. Jeff is very new to this and, like so many, is an excellent participant and, like so many others in the past is frustrated when someone is unable to finish. It is completely understandable. The veterans here have felt it and expressed in past HoFs.
And, being new, Jeff may not be aware of others track record, such as Raul, who, as stated, IS pretty d@mn flawless from my limited knowledge. Being somewhat new with about 8 or so HoFs under my belt. Which is why I was very happy to give him whatever time necessary to make a final decision and I was going to check in with him in the beginning of next week and once he made one, I would have contacted Matt (who was leaving out of frustration of watching movies he didn't need to), let him know and see if he wished to continue or simply not.

So, please, Raul, take the time you needed to make a final decision. That has not changed. I knew it was not going to be a couple of days and we needed to wait to see how certain things worked out. And once that was addressed, for good or bad, and depending on that, perhaps Matt may reconsider. Hopefully, Matt, you do. Like so many others to see joining in, I was honored to see you and was excited to hear you share your knowledge along with everyone else's.
Regardless, you both have my respect and I will abide with whatever decision you make on whether you stay involved or not.

To EVERYONE, for the extraordinary veterans who have dealt with this previously, and to the very awesome new participants who are dealing with it now; my apologies as Host, it does happen and like Citizen mentioned, it is easier for everyone when such things happen early on. Please, allow us time to work through this. THANK YOU.
And special thank you to Citizen Rules and cricket for behind the scenes help involving this. THANK YOU, both!
For myself, I'll be watching Fantasic Planet and Harry and Tonto simply because they ARE great films, the first, I haven't seen since I wa in my early twenties/late teens and the second one I never have and truly would like to.

Once final decisions are made I WILL notify everyone regarding it. Again, sorry for any and all inconveniences for everyone involved.

ALSO, if not already known by all, Velvet is on Temporary Ban and still is. His nom is Red Psalm and, I want be sure to let everyone know regarding that as well.
I will also publicly note with mentions and add notes to the front page when that is a definitive resolve as well.

[edarsenal]

OK, meanwhile. . .

Really enjoyed the two reviews, Jeff! I had a good feeling you'd enjoy Three Days, and yes, the scenes with Von Sydow and Redford are some of the best in the film.

Haven't seen Eraserhead but you do seem to join in with what is good and bad regarding it with a lot of others. Curious to see where I land.

[Joel]

Just wstched A Citizen Investigated Above zsuspicion. Tough to get through but certainly a film to discuss as there were a few things of interest. Ill post wrapped spoiler thoughts once im not mobile

[Joel]

Investigation of a Citizen Above Suspicion (1970)

Spoilers below:

I did struggle with this film because this isn't something I'd normally pick to watch, and definitely not anything I'd keep watching had I accidentally come upon it. I found it harsh, obnoxious and too busy.

From what I understood, this is about a power drunk detective who stages his own incrimination to get his rocks off on the loyalty of the police force. He totally expects not to be severely punished, so he taunts and pushes boundaries constantly. He kills a woman he is having an affair with because he finds out she is two timing him with a radical. The question is: does he really care about that? This is where I got lost. I couldn't tell if his childish tantrum was in jest, or if he was dead serious. It's hard to tell a lot about this character because he always seems to be running some kind of game down on someone, all the while strutting around like an untouchable.

I really wanted to smack this dude as hard as I could in the mouth over and over again. He was a piece of dog crap. I hated the character, and I think that was the point of the film. Surely I couldn't be expected to like him because he was clever?

At the end, he recited a paragraph of law stating that house arrest would be his punishment. However, he was packing a suitcase with clothes and booze. Was he going somewhere? Also, when the police force left his home, had a pow wow, and came back in; he drew the blinds down. I am assuming the blinds were supposed to represent secrecy, confidence, prison bars, and house arrest all at once.

For the style of film, I did find it curious that mid-scene, the DP would flip another lens during a take for close-up, achieving "in-camera" editing instead of relying on two separate angles or WIDE/CLOSE-UP. That was interesting, and was repeated several times, giving the film a very wild energy in some scenes. I'm not sure if it was a tele-converter or an actual camera that had a rotating array of different focal length lenses built on the chassis to spin through, but whatever it was - it was pretty cool.

The music by Ennio Morricone was at once amazing and ridiculous. The score kept using a "BOINNGGG" sound, and I expected to see Tigger bouncing from the left side across the screen at any moment. Good score, though. Not exactly fitting to what was happening on screen, but at least an interesting contrast of slow action and action/thriller oriented music.

I didn't particularly care for this movie as a form of entertainment, it was a chore to sit through because it was dialog non-stop and there were no moments to breathe (something I insist on my movies having), but it certainly provided some things to talk about, which is cool.

[mark f]

Here's (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=446303#post446303) my review which I'll post this way for spoilers' sake. To update it, the film is now part of the Criterion Collection, and I own it. Also, the film seems less fantastical in our current political environment.

[Joel]

Yeah, it definitely went a bit over my head. I don't mind, though. Might check that Redford film out next since it's next in my mail dvd queue..

[Joel]

Here's (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=446303#post446303) my review which I'll post this way for spoilers' sake. To update it, the film is now part of the Criterion Collection, and I own it. Also, the film seems less fantastical in our current political environment.

Agreed. :p

[cricket]

Sorcerer

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William Friedkin is one of my favorite directors having been responsible for some of my favorite movies including Killer Joe, The Exorcist, To Live and Die in LA, and this movie. I also enjoyed his Cruising, Bug, The Rules of Engagement, and the excellent television remake of 12 Angry Men. I'm not sure how much I like The French Connection and would like to see it again soon. That's a pretty good resume, and it's Sorcerer that Friedkin himself calls his masterwork. It got crushed by Star Wars upon it's theatrical release and never got it's due. I had never even heard of it before until we had our 70's countdown.

There are many people who feel that the first half of the movie pales in comparison to the second half. I am not one of those people, and despite the fact that there's certainly more tension in the second half, I feel that the first half is at least just as good. I think the character introduction and the set up*for the main plot point are expertly done. The different parts of the world that are shown make me feel like I'm watching something grand in scale. It ends up being a tale of two movies, yet I believe they mesh together perfectly. In a film like this, the look and the musical score are very important and I have to give those aspects highest marks. All the acting and characters are strong and there's a lot of tension. The only parts I could have done without were the short flashback scene towards the end and what seemed like an unnecessarily long scene involving getting the mechanics of the trucks ready. Overall, this is one of my favorite thrillers.

4.5-

[Velvet]

hey unbanned, think im at 7 or 8 but Im watching the friday the 13th movies right now so taking a break

[Velvet]

I think I just dislike how sorcerer was edited. I think I wanted longer takes

[edarsenal]

will be reading Joel's and MarkF's review once I see Investigation

and agree, cricket, the first half IS a good set up to the main plot and they do work very well together. The varying locations made me think of another movie (it may be The Omen, not sure, been decades since seeing it) that starts out in the Middle East. Both of which seem to open up the universe of the film itself to something grander.

[Velvet]

the sting

Another film that is just fun. This film is very well made and very well acted. Robert Redford and Paul Newman both add a enigmatic flare to their characters so that whenever their on screen the movie pops with vibrance. I especially loved the scenes in the fake horse betting place and the poker scenes. They were very well executed allowing for good doses of humor and tension. I think you can't help but marvel at how tricky the cons that the characters pull of are in the movie. Overall a very solid film


3 ½ stars out of 5

[Velvet]

The warriors


This movie is just flat out fun, from the moment it starts the booming soundtrack and gang talk is just fun. Funnily enough I tried to watch this years ago and disliked it but this time I thoroughly enjoyed it. The costumes are inventive and the shooting locations were great. I really liked all the scenes in the subway. As for the acting it is not the best but it is serviceable and does not take away too much from the film. Id also like to comment that there's a fight scene in a bathroom here that is really good. People get thrown into windows, sprayed with paint, and get their heads rammed into walls and stall doors. Overall this is a film that you can sit back and relax and just have a good time.


I would give this film 3 ½ stars out of 5.

[Velvet]

whats up doc

Sorry ed but I thought this movie was pretty bad. There's not much to say, it's mostly barbra streisand messing with Ryan O'neal but maybe that's the appeal. It’s repetitive, grating, annoying, and simply never seems to end even though it's only 94 minutes. The end scenes were especially grating, nothing but hollow slapstick shenanigans that never hit the mark.


I give this film 1 star out of 5

[rauldc14]

I've watched 2 of these films the past couple of days. I'm thinking of officially getting back in this if that's ok with everyone.

[Velvet]

I mis typed Robert Redford :laugh:

thanks for catching that mark

[rauldc14]

Three Days of the Condor

I liked the overall premise of the film, but it was one where the story seemed like it would be more interesting than it actually was. Parts seemed drawn out more than they needed to be, to the point where it seemed not enough was happening. I felt like the movie needed a little better pacing and some more action to work effectively. Most of the action was in the first half of the film. I thought Robert Redford was decent but nothing amazing. Same could be said for Faye Dunaway. I'll have to revisit the film at some point, but it's a film for me that just seemed to not hit the right notes, get wasn't anything that you would define as bad or terrible.

2.5

[Velvet]

welcome back raul! nice review

[rauldc14]

F for Fake

Man you guys will hate me but I didn't care for this much. I think Orson Welles has a lot of talent but documentaries have just never been my thing. And while this wasn't necessarily a traditional one it was a film that never garnered my full intention. It did have a strong beginning with the magic trick which I enjoyed. And the ending was really good too actually. Liked how he said the first hour was truth and the last 17 minutes weren't. But between the beginning and the end there was a lot to be wished for from me. It was a film that had me playing watch the clock because I didn't care much for the subject matter being portrayed. I will say that Welles was a good narrator and that the girl caught my full attention, but outside of that, that's all I got.

2

[HashtagBrownies]

F for Fake

Man you guys will hate me but I didn't care for this much.

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[HashtagBrownies]

It was a film that had me playing watch the clock because I didn't care much for the subject matter being portrayed.

I thought the way it was edited and Welles' booming voice made the subject matter interesting.

[Velvet]

sorcerer has a chance for number 1 I think, no matter what a very interesting nom by cricket

[edarsenal]

https://media.giphy.com/media/VgQOQvP5DkHg4/giphy.gif

HOLY SH1T I CANNOT stop laughing at this! :laugh::rotfl::laugh::rotfl:

WELCOME BACK rauldc14!!!
SOOO very glad to hear you're gonna stick around!
I know some have trouble with the pacing on Three Days of the Condor, I remember feeling the same the first time I saw it a few decades back. This time around it worked pretty well, pace wise for me. Though I do agree about Dunaway. She kinda phoned it in, sadly, considering what an incredible actress she is.

and glad to hear you enjoyed The Sting, Velvet and The Warriors. Haven't seen that one since it came out and yes, the bathroom fight is the best one of the movie.

Also, no worries about not liking What's Up, Doc?, not everything is for everyone and it's even more so with comedies, making it quite the high risk nomination.

[HashtagBrownies]

HOLY SH1T I CANNOT stop laughing at this! :laugh::rotfl::laugh::rotfl:

Probably the only funny thing in this tumour of a movie.
36559

[edarsenal]

I was wondering where you found that!
I vaguely remember enjoying the first movie when it came out and being so-so on that one. Haven't seen either since.
I wonder what they did to get that lil girl to be soooo angry?

[Velvet]

if anything Barbara Streisand was pretty in whats up doc

[edarsenal]

if anything Barbara Streisand was pretty in whats up doc

that she was!

[Citizen Rules]

The Warriors

...Id also like to comment that there's a fight scene in a bathroom here that is really good... Was that the fight with the Punks gang? They're the guys in overalls and roller skates?

if anything Barbara Streisand was pretty in whats up doc She was!

[Velvet]

https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1793903#post1793903

link to my post with letterbox and imdb list if anybody missed it

[edarsenal]

rauldc14, Yam12, Citizen Rules, Jay Redrum, Joel, matt72582, cricket, HashtagBrownies, Velvet, AlexWilder, CaptainT, Jeff Costello, Nestorio_Miklos

PARTICIPATION UPDATE!!

So that everyone is on the same page, Velvet is back from his temporary ban and remains with us,
Raul is staying with us as well YAY

sadly, Matt will not be able to remain but I have him on "Honorary Review" as a visiting reviewer. Which means Harry and Tonto will no longer be on the list for required watching and the final vote.
Though anyone curious to see it in their own time and fashion is more than welcome to. I will be since I've never seen it and would like to.

THANK YOU

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[cricket]

Eraserhead

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This was my second time watching this movie after first seeing it about 4 years ago. I believe I feel pretty much the same now as I did then. There's 2 words that pop into my mind when I think of this movie and that's accidental genius. I don't even think David Lynch knows what to make of it, yet there are many people who find deep meaning in the film, and that meaning seems to vary wildly. Captain Spaulding once wrote about the movie and had me totally convinced, but I have to feel it for myself and I just don't. I look at it as an experimental film from a director just starting out. That's not to say that I don't think the movie has plenty of merit because I do. I think Lynch does show skill here as a filmmaker, and there's a haunting and hallucinatory quality that is rare. This is one movie I wouldn't mind seeing on the big screen. The sound may be it's biggest strength. It seemed that I was often hearing things before seeing them, and it's even more important with so little dialogue. I do wonder what the sound quality was when it first came out and how much the movie has been remastered over time. It doesn't really matter as I only have what it is now to go by. I would watch it again, and I think under the right circumstance my opinion could go way up. As it is, I think it's a pretty decent flick.

3

[mark f]

Since you wondered about it... When I saw Eraserhead in the theatre c.1980, I remember the picture being grainy and the sound also being somewhat muffled. It was also really weird and super boring. Therefore I gave it a 1. I thought it offended my sensibilities. Lynch has been able to clean up the visuals and punch up the sound since then so that the current film looks and sounds far more sophisticated than his original $20,000 budget. After seeing it at least six more times, I will say that I still believe that Eraserhead is surely no masterpiece, but anyone interested in filmmaking or trying to communicate nightmares through films should watch and rewatch it when they find it necessary. The sound design is now incredible, but it goes hand-in-hand with the lighting/photography and F/X. It's also interesting to watch The Elephant Man and think that at the beginning, it might be another Eraserhead, but all of a sudden, it magically translates into a powerful human drama. I also couldn't see that much of Eraserhead was a dark comedy. The deadpan acting, occasional bizarre reaction shots and some of the "repulsive" F/X take on a different meaning if you view them as intentionally funny. My current rating is a 5 or 2.

As far as what it means, the internet is full of interpretations, both simple and complex. I think it's best to look at it as a nightmare from the perspective of a grown man who is lousy with women who gets "lucky" and then can't deal with the results. Or not.

[cricket]

Since you wondered about it...

I feel smart for a change!

[edarsenal]

been wondering about the sound from past reviews, thanks MarkF.
There are movies that are best seen without any prior knowledge. Eraserhead seems to be on the other side of the spectrum, where a little bit of knowledge to help get one's perspective adjusted properly for a viewing is a very good thing.

[edarsenal]

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The Warriors

CAN -- YOU -- DIG IT?

Like Citizen stated when talking about this movie, it is, simply, fun.

Now, I could not, for the life of me, find the original Theatrical Cut and it seemed the only version online was the Director's Cut. Which, along with the epic narration in the opening, what is also added is comic book panels for segues for scene changes.
And from my vague memory, that is all that has been changed. Those two additions.

Does it take away or enhance the view? Hard to say. It does serve as a reminder that this is a "tale" a "saga", or more appropriately, an "odyssey" and not to be criticized when it comes to realism. So, in that vein, it does its job.
Though, remembering it way back in the day, having the comic book panels would have taken away all the edge and bite that it had when it first came out.

The story centers around a clandestine meeting of representatives of all the gangs to listen to a speech given by the great Cyrus with a plan to take the entire city.
Like any great speech maker, he is taken out in the height of it and one gang is blamed for it.
The rest of movie is their attempt to get back to their turf; Coney Island and all the other gangs that try to stop them.

While the dialogue does get a bit corny, it's still a lot of fun and some of the fights aren't half bad and are more on the realistic than the stylistic which is a good thing.

Also, keep an eye out for a young Mercedes Ruehl as a woman alone on a bench in the park.

Like I said, a fun movie and one I was pretty happy to revisit - thanks, Citizen Rules!

[Citizen Rules]

The Warriors
CAN -- YOU -- DIG IT?

Cool Ed, glad you liked it!

CAN - YOU - DIG IT? Ha! I love that line! I swear The Warriors has more great lines per square mile than any movie I can think of. Back when IMDB had discussion boards for each movie, The Warriors board was riotously funny! I remember this one thread called something like, 'Lines from the Warriors to say after having sex' ha! I could just see someone yelling out at the height of passion....Can You Dig It:p Of course if someone used some of the more colorful lines, they would find themselves without a partner, real quick! Holy crap! even the very first lines are hilarious, if spoken at the magic moment!

http://warriorsmovie.co.uk/production/script/transcript

[edarsenal]

that was the line that stuck with EVERYONE for a VERY LONG time after when seeing this movie
and I can imagine what they used for the "Lines to Say After Sex" lol

[Mr Minio]

Red Psalm - 3/10 The longest 80 minutes of my life. It was nothing but dancing and cliched Communist chants. 2deep4u

[matt72582]

2deep4u

Cliche

[Velvet]

2manylongtake4u

[matt72582]

2manylongtake4u

No, too much generalizing... It's elitist.

[Mr Minio]

Cliche Your use of the word "cliche" is cliche!

[Joel]

Oh, no. Now I don't wanna see it. I hate political snoozefests...if I wanted to watch a news documentary I'd ..um..watch one. AM I WRONG?!

[Velvet]

I havent seen it but based off the films you like youll prob hate it as will most people here

[Joel]

Maybe ill watch it next i may enjoy it never know :)

[matt72582]

Maybe ill watch it next i may enjoy it never know :)

I'm guessing EVERYONE will like it, considering the consequences (Minio) of NOT liking it.

[Swan]

I feel smart for a change!

2deep4u

[Mr Minio]

I'm guessing EVERYONE will like it, considering the consequences (Minio) of NOT liking it. You make it sound as if I raped you for this.

[Joel]

What's Up, Doc?

Man, Babs was pretty foxy back then! This movie I kind of drifted my attention in and out of. A jewel caper with lots of direction, very well done I might add, and opening/closing doors. Bumbling thieves, and some gut busting bits about how to "charm" an older woman. I was rolling at that scene!

I loved the way this film was shot (Laszlo Kovacs in the hizzy, I guess). The title sequence was elegant with the embossed booklet. Overall, the movie was of an era where a lot of care went into films, even if it was a silly comedy. Ryan O'Neal was appropriately nerdy,a nd the sparks between him and Streisand seemed decently performed. She has a terrific voice. Such range!

All in all, I enjoyed this film. It looked good, I laughed often, and found it curious enough, especially since it was rated G by the MPAA but clearly has PG material in full display.

[Citizen Rules]

https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=36725&stc=1&d=1508534466
What's Up Doc (1972)
Director Peter Bogdanovich

I liked this! and would have never seen it, if not for this Hof, so thanks Ed for nominating it:)

This is a proper screwball comedy. Made by a very, young Peter Bogdanovich. I watched some of the DVD extras including a mini documentary on making the film, shot at the time it was made. Peter looked like a kid! And to think he already had The Last Picture Show under his belt when he made What's Up Doc.

I heard that Bogdanovich was a fan of Bringing Up Baby and that film inspired this one. It's easy to see too, with Ryan O'Neal as the nerdy professor who doesn't have a clue to what's going on and Barbra Streisand as the wacky strong willed woman who pursues him, and pursues and pursues.

Madeline Kahn was my favorite character she just slays them in this, she's so good! I laughed out loud at some of the gags...but when we get to the third act which is a wild chase through the streets of San Francisco I was amazed! Damn, that was so well done, and those are all real stunts done on the streets of the city. When you see the cars drive down the steps in the park, look at what the Taxi Cab does...it bottoms out on a step and takes out a huge chunk! I later read that Bogdanovich did that without permission and that scars on the steps are still there today.

The third act is well worth watching over and over. Loved the glass bit, that's classic screwball!

[edarsenal]

So very glad both you guys, Joel and Citizen Rules enjoyed this one. YAY
One of the reasons I nominated it was, since there was NO car chases in this HoF and the 70s WAS the decade of the car chase I just HAD to go with this one.
Did not know about the torn up steps that are STILL busted up - that's pretty cool!

And as stated before, GOD YES, Babs WAS very foxy back in the day!! And the quick wit made it even MORE so!!

Madeline was sheer genius.

What did you guys think of Kenneth Mars playing the pushy professor vying for the same grant? Everyone knows him as Inspector Kemp from Young Frankenstein. But I loved him in this as well.

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[Joel]

So very glad both you guys, Joel and Citizen Rules enjoyed this one. YAY


Madeline was sheer genius.

What did you guys think of Kenneth Mars playing the pushy professor vying for the same grant? Everyone knows him as Inspector Kemp from Young Frankenstein. But I loved him in this as well.



I thought Kenneth Mars was hilarious, especially when he accented certain words with more volume and grit! I also thought Madeline Kahn's character's name was hilarious: "Eunice"...haha..indeed.

The scene under the table in the ball room..the waiter's like "what kind of wine are you serving that table?"

[edarsenal]

I thought Kenneth Mars was hilarious, especially when he accented certain words with more volume and grit! I also thought Madeline Kahn's character's name was hilarious: "Eunice"...haha..indeed.

The scene under the table in the ball room..the waiter's like "what kind of wine are you serving that table?"

I know, I still chuckle and can hear Ryan's deadpan, "Yes, Eunice."

the pronunciation and the way he was constantly throwing his hair back in arrogant dismissal just catches me funny.

[Joel]

https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=36725&stc=1&d=1508534466
What's Up Doc (1972)
Director Peter Bogdanovich

and those are all real stunts done on the streets of the city. When you see the cars drive down the steps in the park, look at what the Taxi Cab does...it bottoms out on a step and takes out a huge chunk! I later read that Bogdanovich did that without permission and that scars on the steps are still there today.

The third act is well worth watching over and over. Loved the glass bit, that's classic screwball!

Those stunts were off the f#ckin' chain! I definitely noticed that. All the physical comedy. Getting dragged down the stairs..that dude who kept tripping the old woman to stall her from reaching her room. Even when Babs got those bicyclists into a collision early on in the film. I wasn't expecting all of that. Man, they really did it up right back in the day. Nowadays they'd cgi all that stuff..hell, they even cgi smoke and gun shots..no more blanks and squibs...I hate Hollywood now..there, I said it!:p

[edarsenal]

pretty incredible what they did for stunts back then.

You ever watch the pile up of cars that happens on the highway in Blues Brothers?

[Camo]

Eraserhead like alot of Lynch's films is a very unconventional dark, messed up experience. None of his films or tv shows including The Straight Story really deviate from the sh1tty existence things are horrifying imagery he tries to create, if someone likes one of his films they are going to at least appreciate some of his other work unless they are just hypnotized by say John Hurts performance which is fine. It can't be surprising that someone who is into a particular brand of Lynch will be into it all though, seems to be something Non Lynch fans can't quite get since they are more into the normal stuff like the Silencio scene or whatever. That's fine and i've said a million times Lynch is absolutely not for everyone but i don't get why Lynch fans are questioned more than say Haneke fans.

[Camo]

Like Haneke made a film about the aftermath of a stroke. Bother him!

[Camo]

He also made a rapey dystopian film.

[Joel]

Non Lynch fans can't quite get since they are more into the normal stuff like the Silencio scene or whatever.

haha..I never knew the silencio scene was mainstream like that! LOL!

[Joel]

pretty incredible what they did for stunts back then.

You ever watch the pile up of cars that happens on the highway in Blues Brothers?

oh, its been years but i vaguely remember that haha!

[cricket]

I've got Three Days of the Condor for this weekend.

[Camo]

haha..I never knew the silencio scene was mainstream like that! LOL!

Sorry, i absolutely wasn't meaning "can't quite get" as in don't understand or whatever. I always forget it's not just me that posts here, and that this isn't my blog, :laugh:

[edarsenal]

Sorry, i absolutely wasn't meaning "can't quite get" as in don't understand or whatever. I always forget it's not just me that posts here, and that this isn't my blog, :laugh:

It is always a distinct pleasure being one of your guests on such a grand, epic blog as the one you have here. Paint me honored. ;)

[Joel]

Sorry, i absolutely wasn't meaning "can't quite get" as in don't understand or whatever. I always forget it's not just me that posts here, and that this isn't my blog, :laugh:

Oh, no, no...I just thought it was funny that Lynch actually would have a scene that's pop. "SIlencio" made me laugh because I pictured some baseball cap wearing frat boy trying to impress a liberal arts girl at a keg party with that very line when she starts deflecting his advances.

[Citizen Rules]

...What did you guys think of Kenneth Mars playing the pushy professor vying for the same grant? Everyone knows him as Inspector Kemp from Young Frankenstein. But I loved him in this as well.

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BTW, the scene on Lombard Street in the movie, I've drove on that...and it's so hair pinned its hard to drive on.

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[edarsenal]

Yep, that's him!
Also, the Judge, at the end, is the old man in the opening scene of Young Frankenstein. He is the subject for the lesson for explaining the distinction between reflexive and voluntary nerve impulses.
He's also the preacher in another Mel Brooks movie: Blazing Saddles.

That street, funny enough is in the Grand Theft Auto; Los Santos game. For some silly reason that popped into my head, watching it.

BTW, rewatched What's Up, Doc? tonight and paid close attention to the steps and the taxi taking out a chunk of cement - very cool trivia about that

[Camo]

Yep, that's him!
Also, the Judge, at the end, is the old man in the opening scene of Young Frankenstein. He is the subject for the lesson for explaining the distinction between reflexive and voluntary nerve impulses.
He's also the preacher in another Mel Brooks movie: Blazing Saddles.

That street, funny enough is in the Grand Theft Auto; Los Santos game. For some silly reason that popped into my head, watching it.

BTW, rewatched What's Up, Doc? tonight and paid close attention to the steps and the taxi taking out a chunk of cement - very cool trivia about that

Outstanding post!

[Citizen Rules]

Yep, that's him!
Also, the Judge, at the end, is the old man in the opening scene of Young Frankenstein. He is the subject for the lesson for explaining the distinction between reflexive and voluntary nerve impulses.
He's also the preacher in another Mel Brooks movie: Blazing Saddles.

That street, funny enough is in the Grand Theft Auto; Los Santos game. For some silly reason that popped into my head, watching it.

BTW, rewatched What's Up, Doc? tonight and paid close attention to the steps and the taxi taking out a chunk of cement - very cool trivia about that Hey I got one for ya, the old lady with the jewels, she played Darrin Stephens mother on Bewitched.

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[Velvet]

hi

[edarsenal]

Hey I got one for ya, the old lady with the jewels, she played Darrin Stephens mother on Bewitched.

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OMG yes! I was gonna look her up because I KNEW her but couldn't remember from where!

This movie is full of them.
The house detective is Boss Hogg from the TV show Dukes of Hazzard
and did you see a VERY young Randy Quaid among the other professors at the dinner?

[edarsenal]

hi

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[Camo]

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:)

[Camo]

BAN VELVET!

[Camo]

I know no one cares about me but i'm genuinely not going to continue posting if Velvet does. worst person.

goodbye

[mark f]

... and did you see a VERY young Randy Quaid among the other professors at the dinner?
Quaid was also in Bogdanovich's The Last Picture Show and Paper Moon..

[Camo]

I know no one cares about me but i'm genuinely not going to continue posting if Velvet does. worst person.

goodbye

Velvet sucks, sorry.

I think people forget that we have SC who is the best and who needs constant validation or whatever.

[edarsenal]

Quaid was also in Bogdanovich's The Last Picture Show and Paper Moon..

What part is he in, in Paper Moon?

[mark f]

What part is he in, in Paper Moon?
He's the "wrassler" O'Neal takes on to get a new car to get away from Sheriff John Hillerman.
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[edarsenal]

It had been almost a decade since I saw Paper Moon and completely forgot that. Thanks Markf!!
It seems Randy had some very steady work with Bogdanovich

[Joel]

Velvet is hands down the worst member of all time!

I can't tell if you're joking or not. I must have missed something. Velvet seems fictional, though. Sorry, Valvet. Not sure why I think that. Inconsistent forum tonality, maybe?

Am I being serious? :cool::D

[Citizen Rules]

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The Warriors (1979)

I'm pissed that the only version I could find to watch was the crap ass Ultimate Director's Cut:rolleyes:

I thought I could overlook the comic book panel scene transactions. I couldn't, they break the pacing of the film and took me right out of the story. It's like just when I was getting into the world of the Warriors along comes these stupid comic book panels and throws ice cold water in my face!

Just as worse the Ultimate Director's Cut re-edits the film and some scenes are now inter-spliced with shots from other scenes. This diminishes the impact of the scenes. If that wasn't all bad enough, some shots are shortened to make the film supposedly faster/more exciting...Nope! It didn't work that way. What once was an exciting film now feels abbreviated as if I was watching an abridged version of the story.

I nominated The original Theatrical Cut but that seems hard to find. You know you're watching the Ultimate Director's Cut if the movie starts off with narration about the ancient Greeks and of course the comic book inserts.

I'm going to try and get the original Theatrical Cut and watch that.

[Sexy Celebrity]

The Warriors (1979)

Don't vote for that movie. It's awful.

[Joel]

Citizen Rules.

Yeah, bro. F=Definitely get the original theatrical. I saw the redux and it was obnoxious. Totally erased what the movie was for me. I'll try and find a source and if/when I do, I'll pm ya.

[mark f]

All the cable channels show the original version, but I know some of you don't have cable, :)

[Citizen Rules]

@Citizen Rules (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=84637).

Yeah, bro. F=Definitely get the original theatrical. I saw the redux and it was obnoxious. Totally erased what the movie was for me. I'll try and find a source and if/when I do, I'll pm ya. Thanks Joel

All the cable channels show the original version, but I know some of you don't have cable, :) Thanks Mark, I don't have cable but many others in this HOF do. I also think that if you do pay-per-stream you will get the original version of the Warriors.

[edarsenal]

I know your frustration, Citizen, all I could find was the Director's Cut. Pretty funny that the Theatrical, for once, is far better than the Director's.
Hell, I couldn't even find it at my local library.

[Citizen Rules]

I know your frustration, Citizen, all I could find was the Director's Cut. Pretty funny that the Theatrical, for once, is far better than the Director's.
Hell, I couldn't even find it at my local library.I almost never like the Director's Cut version of any movie. I can't think of one that I do. Usually there just padded with some deleted scenes so that they can be re marketed. Either that or they cut stuff out for a younger audience that likes fast edit movies. I think I have a handle on finding, The Warriors Theatrical Cut....at least I hope:p

[Yam12]

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The Warriors (1979)

I'm pissed that the only version I could find to watch was the crap ass Ultimate Director's Cut:rolleyes:

I thought I could overlook the comic book panel scene transactions. I couldn't, they break the pacing of the film and took me right out of the story. It's like just when I was getting into the world of the Warriors along comes these stupid comic book panels and throws ice cold water in my face!

Just as worse the Ultimate Director's Cut re-edits the film and some scenes are now inter-spliced with shots from other scenes. This diminishes the impact of the scenes. If that wasn't all bad enough, some shots are shortened to make the film supposedly faster/more exciting...Nope! It didn't work that way. What once was an exciting film now feels abbreviated as if I was watching an abridged version of the story.

I nominated The original Theatrical Cut but that seems hard to find. You know you're watching the Ultimate Director's Cut if the movie starts off with narration about the ancient Greeks and of course the comic book inserts.

I'm going to try and get the original Theatrical Cut and watch that.

Which is the preferred version? Because I've seen this already and it was the one with the comic book transitions and opening narration, and I quite liked the film overall.

[Citizen Rules]

Which is the preferred version? Because I've seen this already and it was the one with the comic book transitions and opening narration, and I quite liked the film overall.Almost ever opinion, I've read online, says the original is better.

It's available like Mark said on cable channels and also on some streaming sites. And it's on DVD, BUT only the DVD made in 2001 has it. The 2005 DVD is the Ultimate Directors Cut.

But I'm glad you liked it:)

[Citizen Rules]

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A symbolic representation of the dangers of the breakdown of democracy. Italy's fragile democratic government in the late 1960s was in danger of being subverted by communist youth sympathizers and anarchist. Social discord was rampant in the late 60s and the very fabric of Italy's democracy was in danger of being eroded from both leftist and from reactionary right wingers. This is what the film is about....polar opposites of the political social spectrum that threaten democracy by their extremism.

The film uses surrealistic satire to commentate on social problems. In the film the Chief of Homicide Police sacrifices himself by commenting a murder in order to teach his subordinates the meaning of democracy, in which no one is above suspicion, not even the Chief of Homicide Police. He plants clues for his fellow detectives to find, and is disappointed when they turn a blind eye to their duties. Duty and democracy is what he wishes to teach them, but like a bad nightmare, they won't believe he's a suspect in a murder case. In a sense the murder is the hero who has given his all to the state, and his hapless employees are the enemy who won't act like citizens of a democracy.

The murdered girl is symbolic of murdered free thought. She's a free spirit who's symbolic killed by bureaucratic complacency. The film makes sure the audience knows all of this by having the dead girl tell the Chief (and thereforth us), that she didn't mind be killed at all, because she would have ended up murdered anyway. Thus she's symbolic dead, and the Chief is a symbolic murderer, and the real death is civic duty.

Interesting film.

[cat_sidhe]

Good soundtrack.

[Citizen Rules]

Good soundtrack.I actually hated the soundtrack, sorry:cool: It was the Bong-Bong-Bong mostly:p...But the soundtrack was effective at telling the viewer not to take the movie too seriously.

[cat_sidhe]

Good soundtrack.I actually hated the soundtrack, sorry:cool: It was the Bong-Bong-Bong mostly:p...But the soundtrack was effective at telling the viewer not to take the movie too seriously.

No need to be sorry. My taste is a bit, let's just say, sometimes it goes om its own tangent and expects no company.

[Citizen Rules]

No need to be sorry. My taste is a bit, let's just say, sometimes it goes om its own tangent and expects no company.Well you're in good company:) Joel who is in this HoF, also liked the soundtrack.

How do you feel about the soundtrack in The Third Man?

[cat_sidhe]

No need to be sorry. My taste is a bit, let's just say, sometimes it goes om its own tangent and expects no company.Well you're in good company:) Joel who is in this HoF, also liked the soundtrack.

How do you feel about the soundtrack in The Third Man?

He does?

And that's why he's fat Matt Damon to my Ben Catfleck. :lol:

Who doesn't like zithers?

[Citizen Rules]

He does?

And that's why he's fat Matt Damon to my Ben Catfleck. :lol:

Who doesn't like zithers?Ha, I don't! Like the movie of course, especially Orson Welles' Harry Lime, but the zithers, :eek: drive me crazy:)

[rauldc14]

The Warriors

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This was my second viewing of the film and I enjoyed it about the same as the last time. I watched that directors cut and I know it's not the same version I watched the last time. I was pretty indifferent to it, it didn't affect my overall enjoyment much. Anyways a great soundtrack and a pretty cool story seeing the Warriors weave their way through the city and back to their home. I actually thought the camerawork was really well done and the settings that the film captures are pretty cool. It gives off a pretty cool vibe to it. The soundtrack is a real treat too and I really like seeing what happens at the end as well. As a side note Mercy really reminds me of Rosario Dawson.

3.5

[edarsenal]

Ha, I don't! Like the movie of course, especially Orson Welles' Harry Lime, but the zithers, :eek: drive me crazy:)
saw this line of questioning several miles back lol
It's a good thing you keep your personal info tight to the chest or I'd mail you any and every zither CD that was out there for Xmas ;):D

You've got me more intrigued than I was previously about Jeff's nom: Investigation. ..
been considering it for one of my next watches.

and I was about the same when it came to the comic panels in The Warriors. It didn't mar my enjoyment of it. Though, at some point I would like to find the Theatrical and really compare.

[cricket]

Three Days of the Condor

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I believe this was the last movie I watched back for the 70's countdown. I remembered liking it but it quickly faded from my memory. This was my second time watching it and I liked it a little more.

The opening credits really struck me as lame at the time. In restrospect, I think they were well done. They were so ordinary that I think they helped the first major event of the movie be more shocking. That is some scary gun that's used in the movie. So then the story unfolds, and I think it's fairly generic, but it's very entertaining with a good amount of tension.

I don't think Robert Redford is a great actor, but I do think he's a great star and I always like his performances. He suits the role very well. I also enjoyed Faye Dunaway's performance, not great, but just off enough to make her compelling. She looked great and had the best line of the movie. Max Von Sydow was the star for me displaying the perfect combination of suave and menace. The movie is at it's best when he's on screen.

I thought the musical score was awful and that it really hurt the movie. It seemed very out of place to me and did nothing to enhance the tension. Also out of place was the love scene which seemed completely forced. My gripes are not killers because I really enjoyed the movie and so did my wife.

3.5+

[edarsenal]

yeah, Sydow REALLY makes this movie. When I was a kid I didn't pay too much attention to him, but, now I spend more time enjoying his presence than anyone else. Well, about equal with Redford, being a big fan of his when it comes to such movies.
so, cricket, WHICH line were you referring to with Dunaway?

[cricket]

yeah, Sydow REALLY makes this movie. When I was a kid I didn't pay too much attention to him, but, now I spend more time enjoying his presence than anyone else. Well, about equal with Redford, being a big fan of his when it comes to such movies.
so, cricket, WHICH line were you referring to with Dunaway?

Oh no, I'll help. You can always depend on the ol' spy f**ker.

[rauldc14]

Fantastic Planet

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The best things about this film are it's originality and also it's world building. The animation on the surface is not anything fascinating but it does make quite an intricate world. It's fun to see how "humans" are pets, it gives us a glimpse of what a world like that would look like. I believe this film has a lot of deep meaning behind it. Another great part of the movie is it's soundtrack, which gives the film a very cool vibe. The creatures in the film are very interesting and also creatively made.in this world, the draags are the humans while the ohms are the ants so to speak, and it is quite an interesting experience that I enjoy watching every time. As far as the animation goes, pretty cool how the draags look. I think that's my favorite aspect of the animation. The world the films build sucks you right in, to the point where the story isn't even that important (although it still is very well done, it just becomes a secondary component to the film for me, in a way). This isn't a film that is for everyone, but it's certainly well respected by me.

4+

[cricket]

And before I saw Sydow in a bunch of Bergman films, I thought he was ancient. I never knew he wore old man makeup in The Exorcist. I thought he was in his 70's when that came out.

[Citizen Rules]

https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=36896&stc=1&d=1508867227Kramer vs. Kramer (1979)

Believe it or not, I had never seen this. So right after I get through writing this, I'm heading over to the MoFo Lists (https://www.movieforums.com/lists) and clicking it as watched.

I really liked this one...Dustin Hoffman is very natural and personable on screen, he makes an easy to like character that I could totally relate to. I thought he did a great job of acting...So did Meryl Streep, and wow she was actually pretty in this and young! I liked the way her character was written also very believable. She was really good at the way she portrayed a flaky, unhappy woman who's kind of screwed up and but not all together the bad guy.

Someone said that both sides were represented equally sympathetic in the movie, I don't think so. I felt Merly's character was 'the walking wounded' someone who's going to lose it no matter who she's with. I didn't like her character on a personal level and I think that's what the movie intended?


SPOILER
As much as I liked the movie, I disliked the happy ending where Meryl seemingly out of nowhere says he can keep the child. That really disappointed me, as I was expecting a strong ending with the court system screwing him over just because he was a man. I would have loved to see the film end on his face as Meryl and the kid walk down the hall and out of his life.

[HashtagBrownies]

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Believe it or not, I had never seen this. So right after I get through writing this, I'm heading over to the MoFo Lists (https://www.movieforums.com/lists) and clicking it as watched.

Nice review Citizen. I felt that the film portrayed Streep as the villain, though that's not necessarily a bad thing in my opinion.

[Citizen Rules]

Nice review Citizen. I felt that the film portrayed Streep as the villain, though that's not necessarily a bad thing in my opinion. Yup.. I agree on both counts. Glad I wasn't the only one who thought that about her being the heavy.

I love that scene in the restaurant, where out of the blue Dustin Hoffman, slaps the wine glass and it goes flying into the wall, which startles Meryl Streep. And right before that he picks up the wine glass moves it, then moves it back. Those small details make the movie special.

[matt72582]

Yup.. I agree on both counts. Glad I wasn't the only one who thought that about her being the heavy.

I love that scene in the restaurant, where out of the blue Dustin Hoffman, slaps the wine glass and it goes flying into the wall, which startles Meryl Streep. And right before that he picks up the wine glass moves it, then moves it back. Those small details make the movie special.

I love that scene and that little move you describe.... as if he was pondering it, and then just blew up... It was nice that he told her off.