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Thursday Next
06-28-17, 09:59 AM
Somebody start a where is Camo thread.
cricket
06-28-17, 09:49 PM
Maybe he's in camo uflage?
Citizen Rules
06-28-17, 10:10 PM
Camo has deleted his avatar and it looks like he might be gone for good, I hope I'm wrong and he's just taking a break from this place.
Either way the Hof must go on!...So keep watching the movies and posting the reviews.
he deadline is in August so there's plenty of time for Camo to return....but if he doesn't come back, I talked to Raul and he said he'd be willing to collect the list and to the reveal of the winner.
rauldc14
06-28-17, 10:48 PM
I can do it, or Miss Vicky can. Either way I'll lead the charge for the 14th!!
Miss Vicky
06-29-17, 05:21 PM
Camo emailed me and says he's not coming back. He sent me all of the information he has, including his own ballot. I probably won't have a chance to really look it over until early next week though.
Citizen Rules
06-29-17, 05:41 PM
Camo emailed me and says he's not coming back. He sent me all of the information he has, including his own ballot. I probably won't have a chance to really look it over until early next week though.
MV, please tell Camo that he will be missed. He really added a lot to MoFo with his passion for movies and made the Hofs, Countdowns and MoFo events fun, as he always participated and was a big part of MoFo.
MoFo won't be the same without him.
ScarletLion
06-29-17, 05:43 PM
Camo emailed me and says he's not coming back. He sent me all of the information he has, including his own ballot. I probably won't have a chance to really look it over until early next week though.
Can't believe this.
Hope he's ok. I don't know the ins and outs of any stuff that has gone on. But it's a loss to the board, he was a great poster. Is this 100%?
Miss Vicky
06-29-17, 05:57 PM
Is this 100%?
Well he said he's "not posting anymore, " so I don't know if he will still occasionally check messages or not, but I wouldn't count on him being on much if at all. It isn't the first time he has said that he's leaving the forum, though, so we'll have to wait and see.
cricket
06-29-17, 06:17 PM
I guess this is as good a time as any to spill the beans. Camo and SC are the same person.
Miss Vicky
06-29-17, 08:24 PM
I guess this is as good a time as any to spill the beans. Camo and SC are the same person.
:coleman:
edarsenal
06-30-17, 06:16 PM
well, since I know so very little, I will not make assumptions or cast opinions, and simply say I got a lot of love and respect for the man and wish him the very best and truly do hope to see him again.
And cricket, Camo isn't SC. I am.
Whenever I feel like playing really, really nice and civil I don this edarsenal ID and purge all that sacharine/polite horsesh!t right the eff out.
Problem is, IT KEEPS COMING BACK!!
rauldc14
07-01-17, 11:22 AM
I guess this is as good a time as any to spill the beans. Camo and SC are the same person.
It's a decent theory, TBH. I just don't believe it's true because SC wouldn't watch the movies that Camo has.
Jeff Costello
07-01-17, 04:15 PM
The Marriage of Maria Braun
I thought this was a very good film with a potential to be great if it weren't for some noticable flaws. It started out and finished strongly, but I think that the middle really dragged on too much and had some glaring editing problems. There were just couple of scenes that I felt weren't that relavant to the plotline and could've been cut. I really liked the character of Maria and her development. Her transition into a cold-hearted and emotionally numb woman reminded me a lot of Bunuel's Tristana. Hanna Schygulla definitely impressed me by playing such complex role. I also command Fassbinder for creating a realistic tone of post-war psychosis and anxiety. I think the choice of barely including music was right and contributed to film having certain heaviness to it. Ultimately this is a film I greatly appreciated, but I don't think will revisit anytime soon.
https://alchetron.com/cdn/The-Marriage-of-Maria-Braun-images-7bd0e1e3-a576-4422-8d52-890c4df6be3.jpg
Jeff Costello
07-01-17, 04:21 PM
5 more to go. Buffalo 66 next.
Nestorio_Miklos
07-01-17, 04:40 PM
Camo emailed me and says he's not coming back. He sent me all of the information he has, including his own ballot. I probably won't have a chance to really look it over until early next week though.
That's really a pity Camo leaving the forum. I guess you gonna take over the hosting?
Miss Vicky
07-01-17, 05:05 PM
That's really a pity Camo leaving the forum. I guess you gonna take over the hosting?
Yeah, I'm going to take it over.
I just finished a 55 hour/6 day work week so I'm too physically and mentally exhausted to deal with it at the moment. However, I'm off for the next three days so I'll have a look at everything soon.
edarsenal
07-01-17, 06:45 PM
Yeah, I'm going to take it over.
I just finished a 55 hour/6 day work week so I'm too physically and mentally exhausted to deal with it at the moment. However, I'm off for the next three days so I'll have a look at everything soon.
That is VERY VERY cool of you, Vicky!! THANK YOU and no rush, whenever you're ready and enjoy the rest of the weekend :)
cricket
07-01-17, 06:51 PM
I just finished a 55 hour/6 day work week so I'm too physically and mentally exhausted to deal with it at the moment.
I just finished a 51 hour/4 day work week. More hours per day but I think I like my schedule better.
rauldc14
07-01-17, 07:52 PM
I just finished a 51 hour/4 day work week. More hours per day but I think I like my schedule better.
Ditto cricket. And mine of the overnight variety.
cricket
07-01-17, 07:56 PM
Ditto cricket. And mine of the overnight variety.
I hate overnights, messes you all up.
Citizen Rules
07-01-17, 08:01 PM
Well, I spend at least 60 hours a week looking at MoFo:p, and another 60 hours watching your guys Hof movies;)
edarsenal
07-01-17, 08:35 PM
For me it's evenings, including Saturdays for a 6 day, 45+ hr work week. Don't care for the 6 day work week but I DO like working evenings as opposed to a day shift. Always hated getting up in the morning.
CosmicRunaway
07-01-17, 09:48 PM
I don't think I could work evenings or late nights. I've spent years getting up at 4am to go to work, and it would just be too drastic a change. Even on my days off I'm up as soon as the sun is haha.
I think I forgot to mention it earlier, so I'll say it now: thanks for taking over hosting MV. :up:
Miss Vicky
07-02-17, 03:15 AM
An Announcement:
For anybody who isn't yet aware, I am taking over hosting duties for this HOF.
I still need ballots from these people:
Blix the Goblin
Clazor
cricket
edarsenal
Jeff Costello
neiba
Pussy Galore
Sarge
ScarletLion
SilentVamp
If you are still watching movies, don't worry - the deadline is August 9th. If any of you that are listed above have already submitted your ballot to Camo, you'll need to resend it to me.
If any of you have decided not to complete this HOF, please either post in here that you are dropping out or send me a private message or profile comment so that I can let everyone else know and adjust the ballots that were already received.
Miss Vicky
07-02-17, 03:16 AM
Here's an updated list of write-ups (if I've missed any, please let me know)
Camo: List Received
Dead Poet's Society (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1686262#post1686262)
Captain Fantastic (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1686266#post1686266)
Manchester By The Sea (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1686269#post1686269)
Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter...And Spring (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1686289#post1686289)
Buffalo '66 (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1686294#post1686294)
The Marriage of Maria Braun (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1686457#post1686457)
Nightmare Alley (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1688493#post1688493)
Forbidden Games (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1689555#post1689555)
The Quiet Earth (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1689963#post1689963)
The Three Musketeers (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1690449#post1690449)
The Great Dictator (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1692240#post1692240)
Wings of Desire (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1692682#post1692682)
The Hunt (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1694039#post1694039)
The Broken Circle Breakdown (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1697216#post1697216)
Flesh + Blood (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1699543#post1699543)
Miss Vicky: List Received
Captain Fantastic (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1687017#post1687017)
Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter...And Spring (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1687632#post1687632)
The Great Dictator (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1688018#post1688018)
Wings of Desire (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1688398#post1688398)
Buffalo '66 (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1688866#post1688866)
The Quiet Earth
(https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1689451#post1689451)The Marriage of Maria Braun (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1690032#post1690032)
The Three Musketeers (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1690948#post1690948)
Forbidden Games (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1691666#post1691666)
The Hunt (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1692399#post1692399)
The Broken Circle Breakdown (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1693576#post1693576)
Dead Poets Society (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1695814#post1695814)
Flesh and Blood (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1696765#post1696765)
Nightmare Alley (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1698474#post1698474)
Manchester By The Sea (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1698962#post1698962)
Dances With Wolves (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1703047#post1703047)
ScarletLion: List Received
The Quiet Earth (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1687196#post1687196)
Manchester By The Sea
(https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1687224#post1687224) Buffalo '66 (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1687696#post1687696)
Captain Fantastic (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1689540#post1689540)
Nightmare Alley (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1692409#post1692409)
Dead Poets Society (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1693687#post1693687)
Forbidden Games (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1696819#post1696819)
Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter...And Spring (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1704987#post1704987)
The Hunt (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1709330#post1709330)
The Marriage of Maria Braun (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1716248#post1716248)
The Great Dictator (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1721316#post1721316)
Wings of Desire (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1726340#post1726340)
Flesh + Blood and The Three Musketeers (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1738179#post1738179)
Sarge: List Received
Buffalo '66 (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1687212#post1687212)
Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter...And Spring (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1688892#post1688892)
The Quiet Earth (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1689468#post1689468)
The Marriage of Maria Braun (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1689979#post1689979)
Nightmare Alley (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1691053#post1691053)
Forbidden Games (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1691244#post1691244)
The Great Dictator (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1691426#post1691426)
Wings of Desire (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1693219#post1693219)
The Broken Circle Breakdown (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1693660#post1693660)
Flesh and Blood (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1696307#post1696307)
Captain Fantastic (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1696419#post1696419)
The Three Musketeers (The Miracle of Morgan’s Creek)
Dances With Wolves (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1709879#post1709879)
The Hunt (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1722479#post1722479)
Cricket: List Received
The Three Musketeers (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1687241#post1687241)
The Hunt (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1689539#post1689539)
Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter...And Spring (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1691255#post1691255)
Dead Poet's Society (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1691549#post1691549)
Captain Fantastic (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1691706#post1691706)
Forbidden Games (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1694311#post1694311)
Dances With Wolves (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1695119#post1695119)
Wings of Desire (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1696251#post1696251)
Buffalo '66 (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1696599#post1696599)
Flesh and Blood (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1697943#post1697943)
The Broken Circle Breakdown (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1698512#post1698512)
The Great Dictator (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1699064#post1699064)
The Quiet Earth (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1737831#post1737831)
Jeff Costello: List Received
The Three Musketeers (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1688231#post1688231)
Dead Poets Society (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1688482#post1688482)
Nightmare Alley (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1689950#post1689950)
Wings of Desire (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1698584#post1698584)
The Great Dictator (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1701140#post1701140)
Captain Fantastic (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1702714#post1702714)
Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter...And Spring (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1718894#post1718894)
The Marriage of Maria Braun (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1729112#post1729112)
Buffalo '66 (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1729982#post1729982)
The Quiet Earth and The Broken Circle Breakdown (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1747235#post1747235)
Dances With Wolves (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1750618#post1750618)
Raul: List Received
The Three Musketeers (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1687754#post1687754)
Nightmare Alley (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1687931#post1687931)
Wings of Desire (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1688311#post1688311)
The Marriage of Maria Braun (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1693195#post1693195)
Forbidden Games (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1693444#post1693444)
The Quiet Earth (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1693956#post1693956)
Captain Fantastic (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1697742#post1697742)
The Broken Circle Breakdown (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1701544#post1701544)
Dead Poet's Society (I'll support them all. You're going to be sad when Yoda comes on and you realize i have no pull :laugh: One of the worst things is the word "realize", not having a "z", i mean realise - :sick:)
Buffalo '66 (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1708177#post1708177)
Dances With Wolves (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1709068#post1709068)
Flesh + Blood (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1711522#post1711522)
Manchester by The Sea (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1711600#post1711600)
The Great Dictator (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1714719#post1714719)
Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter...And Spring (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1715620#post1715620)
The Hunt (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1718869#post1718869)
Nestorio: List Received
Buffalo '66 (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1688039#post1688039)
Dead Poet's Society (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1688155#post1688155)
Manchester By The Sea (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1691711#post1691711)
Dances With Wolves (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1693177#post1693177)
The Marriage of Maria Braun (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1695514#post1695514)
The Three Musketeers (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1697628#post1697628)
Captain Fantastic (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1699130#post1699130)
The Hunt (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1703165#post1703165)
The Great Dictator (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1705517#post1705517)
The Broken Circle Breakdown (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1708423#post1708423)
Nightmare Alley (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1708963#post1708963)
Wings of Desire (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1710264#post1710264)
Flesh + Blood (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1710416#post1710416)
Forbidden Games (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1711065#post1711065)
The Quiet Earth (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1709238#post1709238)
Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter...And Spring (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1713897#post1713897)
Cosmic: List Received
The Hunt (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1688480#post1688480)
The Great Dictator (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1688727#post1688727)
Manchester By The Sea (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1688958#post1688958)
Captain Fantastic (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1691070#post1691070)
The Three Musketeers (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1692220#post1692220)
Wings of Desire (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1691597#post1691597)
The Quiet Earth (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1695149#post1695149)
Nightmare Alley (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1699054#post1699054)
Flesh + Blood (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1703198#post1703198)
The Marriage of Maria Braun (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1705429#post1705429)
Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter...And Spring (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1705704#post1705704)
The Broken Circle Breakdown (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1706132#post1706132)
Buffalo '66 (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1706781#post1706781)
Dead Poets Society (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1708428#post1708428)
Forbidden Games (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1709045#post1709045)
Dances With Wolves (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1709960#post1709960)
Pussy Galore: List Received
Captain Fantastic (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1688874#post1688874)
Dead Poet's Society, The Hunt and The Broken Circle Breakdown (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1702386#post1702386)
The Quiet Earth and Marriage of Maria Braun (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1715408#post1715408)
The Three Musketeers and Forbidden Games (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1730623#post1730623)
Buffalo 66 (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1738557#post1738557)
Spring, Summer... (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1738705#post1738705)
Dances With Wolves, Nightmare Alley, Wings of Desire, The Great Dictator (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1742462#post1742462)
Citizen: List Received
The Hunt (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1690041#post1690041)
The Quiet Earth (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1691106#post1691106)
Nightmare Alley (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1691812#post1691812)
The Three Musketeers (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1692588#post1692588)
The Great Dictator (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1695421#post1695421)
Flesh and Blood (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1695800#post1695800)
Captain Fantastic (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1696454#post1696454)
The Marriage of Maria Braun (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1696942#post1696942)
Wings of Desire (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1698095#post1698095)
Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter...And Spring (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1699695#post1699695)
Manchester By The Sea (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1700111#post1700111)
Forbidden Games (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1700881#post1700881)
The Broken Circle Breakdown (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1701319#post1701319)
Dances With Wolves (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1702624#post1702624)
Dead Poets Society (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1703020#post1703020)
Buffalo '66 (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1705313#post1705313)
Clazor: List Received
Manchester By The Sea (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1690087#post1690087)
Flesh + Blood (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1737645#post1737645)
Buffalo '66 (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1737647#post1737647)
The Broken Circle Breakdown (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1737653#post1737653)
Wings of Desire (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1737653#post1737653)
The Three Musketeers (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1737659#post1737659)
The Quiet Earth (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1737662#post1737662)
The Great Dictator (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1737676#post1737676)
Dances With Wolves (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1738081#post1738081)
The Hunt (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1738253#post1738253)
Captain Fantastic (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1738873#post1738873)
Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter... and Spring (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1739519#post1739519)
Forbidden Games (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1740144#post1740144)
The Marriage of Maria Braun (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1740436#post1740436)
Nightmare Alley (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1740439#post1740439)
Dead Poets Society (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1740859#post1740859)
SilentVamp: List Received
Manchester By The Sea (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1691891#post1691891)
The Marriage of Maria Braun (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1705567#post1705567)
The Quiet Earth (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1705568#post1705568)
Forbidden Games (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1705569#post1705569)
The Broken Circle Breakdown (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1705571#post1705571)
Captain Fantastic (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1705572#post1705572)
Buffalo '66 (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1709130#post1709130)
Wings of Desire (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1709131#post1709131)
Dances With Wolves (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1709209#post1709209)
The Quiet Earth (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1709238#post1709238)
Dead Poets Society (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1736189#post1736189)
Flesh + Blood (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1736191#post1736191)
Nightmare Alley (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1708657#post1708657)
The Hunt (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1708665#post1708665)
Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter... and Spring (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1708652#post1708652)
The Three Musketeers (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1708663#post1708663)
edarsenal: List Received
Nightmare Alley (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1692858#post1692858)
Deads Poet Society (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1694157#post1694157)
Wings of Desire (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1695643#post1695643)
The Great Dictator (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1701265#post1701265)
Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter...And Spring (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1711270#post1711270)
Dances With Wolves (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1711284#post1711284)
Manchester By the Sea (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1720692#post1720692)
The Broken Circle Breakdown (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1730136#post1730136)
The Three Musketeers (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1731404#post1731404)
The Quiet Earth (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1734338#post1734338)
Captain Fantastic (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1735632#post1735632)
Buffalo '66 (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1742697#post1742697)
Forbidden Games (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1748114#post1748114)
BlixTheGoblin: 6/16
Buffalo 66 (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1694825#post1694825)
Forbidden Games (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1696604#post1696604)
Dances With Wolves (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1702668#post1702668)
The Marriage of Maria Braun (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1705938#post1705938)
Wings of Desire (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1709113#post1709113)
Manchester By The Sea (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1714692#post1714692)
JayDee (Honorary Member)
Captain Fantastic (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1688801#post1688801)
The Quiet Earth (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1689661#post1689661)
Citizen Rules
07-02-17, 03:20 AM
I'm so glad you posted an updated link post. Great idea.
edarsenal
07-02-17, 04:37 AM
that's all my reviews so far. I'm in the middle of Broken Circle Breakdown. VERY good movie. Very, very sad, but VERY good.
Jeff Costello
07-02-17, 05:19 AM
Camo said he added an extra week when Blix joined. Deadline is therefore on 09.08.17.
cricket
07-02-17, 08:15 AM
I've been done except for Clazor's nomination. I'm just waiting to see if he turns up before sending in my list.
MovieMeditation
07-02-17, 08:47 AM
Camo emailed me and says he's not coming back. He sent me all of the information he has, including his own ballot. I probably won't have a chance to really look it over until early next week though.
:(:(:(:(
Citizen Rules
07-02-17, 12:17 PM
Camo said he added an extra week when Blix joined. Deadline is therefore on 09.08.17. 09.08.17. is that August-11-2017 ?
rauldc14
07-02-17, 12:20 PM
I thought cricket was done already?
Jeff Costello
07-02-17, 12:29 PM
09.08.17. is that August-11-2017 ?
August 9th.
cricket
07-02-17, 12:34 PM
I thought cricket was done already?
Just waiting to see if I should watch The Quiet Earth.
Miss Vicky
07-02-17, 01:19 PM
Okay, I've changed the deadline to the 9th.
Miss Vicky
07-02-17, 02:30 PM
Just waiting to see if I should watch The Quiet Earth.
I PMed Clazor asking him to let us know if he's still in or not. Hopefully I get an answer soon.
Miss Vicky
07-02-17, 07:33 PM
Clazor says he's still in and will be done by the deadline. So cricket, yes you should watch The Quiet Earth.
SilentVamp
07-02-17, 07:56 PM
I am all done watching the films, actually. I just haven't gotten around to writing about the last 3 films. I was holding off sending the list until then (that is what I usually do). I will try to get to the last 3 write-ups this week.
Pussy Galore
07-02-17, 10:33 PM
I'm not very active sorry, but I will send a list and I've already watch a couple of movies.
Namely, Jeux d'Enfants and The Three Musketeers. (Which I'll review later)
So the only ones I have to watch are: Buffalo 66, Wings of Desire (rewatch), The Great Dictator (rewatch), Nightmare Alley, Fresh Blood and Dances with Wolves (rewatch)
Jeff Costello
07-03-17, 05:40 PM
Buffalo '66
I wasn't at all familiar with Vincent Gallo before watching this film. From occasional glimpses of other reviews and Cricket's boiling hatred for the man, I was intrigued. Gallo to me looks like a homeless man Joaquin Phoenix and after reading about him later, he is in fact a bit of a douche. But I have to hand it to him, Buffalo '66 was refreshingly clever and well versed film.
The film starts as Billy (Gallo) is released out of prison for a crime he didn't commited. In a flashback, we can right away see that Billy is deeply unhappy man and possibly traumatized from his experience in prison. After a phone-call with his mother, Billy decides to kidnap a young tap-dancer Layla (Christina Ricci) in order to fill out for lies he was feeding his parents.
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First of all, I thought the scenes in Billy's parents home were amazing. The tension between him and his parents was so palpable. I liked how we got to see a brief insight into Billy's childhood and where his anger towards the world originated from. Christina Ricci gave an amazing performance, especially considering she was about 17-years old at the time of shooting. Her chemistry with Gallo was great and she served as a contrast to his character with her warmness, compassion and unlimited tolerance. It was really nice to see her character reaching into Billy's tormented soul and giving his life a new meaning.
Buffalo '66 was also very nicely written and funny. I was cracking up several times, especially during the photo-booth scene. I also appreciated the score and a cinematography. But one of the most impressive aspects of the film was its versatility. It was both funny and depressing, surreal and realistic, brutal and tender... Really a perfect blend of comedy and drama. Great film !
cricket
07-03-17, 05:48 PM
Camo will be pleased to see that..maybe...hopefully?
edarsenal
07-03-17, 08:28 PM
as previously stated, haven't seen Buffalo 66 since it first came out in the theater, so it should be an interesting watch
edarsenal
07-03-17, 09:12 PM
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The Broken Circle Breakdown
Let me just get it out of the way, right now. Dammit ScarletLion AND bless you for this heart-breaking and beautiful movie.
The end credits have just rolled and I am in both a deep melancholia and a kind of peaceful serenity having experienced this film; which, obviously, I'll get into as we go along. To a point, anyway. Too emotional to go TOO deep.
Firstly, I'd like to talk about the pace and the interesting back and forth of the storytelling. Which, I must say, was done extremely well. Not sure if it caused problems for anyone but having the direction of the movie jack-rabbiting a few paces forward then back, for me, made for a stronger impact and kept me very well invested.
As did the acting, right across the board. The tragic family, their friends in the band. . . there was a solid realism to them all. We watched people and forgot they were actors.
And speaking of the band, I really loved the music in this. It was ideal on so many levels for so many of the key scenes. Truly exquisite.
---SPOILERS---
Because of the realism played out by one and all, never mind the very story itself, this was a heartbreak without relief. Not even a happy ending. Though the band playing as they said goodbye to Elise and the final shot of the new tattoo was truly beautiful.
I have a hard time mentioning the little girl, Maybelle, simply because it is from this fountain that all the following grief and sadness pours. Part of that also has to do with the girl playing her. She was beyond wonderful and entirely endearing. Both the scene with her and the dead crow, along with the scene where she asks Deider about the stars that are gone, completely captured my heart. And Christ how it broke when she died. I'm getting choked up, typing about it. And, like Elise, in the end, the farewell song by the band was a beautiful one.
This is a really great film and if not for its immense sadness, would easily become a favorite. And who knows, may become in time. It is definitely a must see to be experienced and, after the crying ends, to thoroughly enjoy.
rauldc14
07-04-17, 12:47 PM
Nice write up Ed. I completely agree with you.
Miss Vicky
07-04-17, 01:09 PM
I've edited my post with the list of write-ups (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1729366#post1729366) to include the most recent reviews.
I also PMed Yoda asking if he'd edit a link to my post into Camo's second post on this thread so that people can find the updated list more easily.
ScarletLion
07-04-17, 03:04 PM
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The Broken Circle Breakdown
Let me just get it out of the way, right now. Dammit ScarlettLion AND bless you for this heart-breaking and beautiful movie.
The end credits have just rolled and I am in both a deep melancholia and a kind of peaceful serenity having experienced this film; which, obviously, I'll get into as we go along. To a point, anyway. Too emotional to go TOO deep.
Firstly, I'd like to talk about the pace and the interesting back and forth of the storytelling. Which, I must say, was done extremely well. Not sure if it caused problems for anyone but having the direction of the movie jack-rabbiting a few paces forward then back, for me, made for a stronger impact and kept me very well invested.
As did the acting, right across the board. The tragic family, their friends in the band. . . there was a solid realism to them all. We watched people and forgot they were actors.
And speaking of the band, I really loved the music in this. It was ideal on so many levels for so many of the key scenes. Truly exquisite.
---SPOILERS---
Because of the realism played out by one and all, never mind the very story itself, this was a heartbreak without relief. Not even a happy ending. Though the band playing as they said goodbye to Elise and the final shot of the new tattoo was truly beautiful.
I have a hard time mentioning the little girl, Maybelle, simply because it is from this fountain that all the following grief and sadness pours. Part of that also has to do with the girl playing her. She was beyond wonderful and entirely endearing. Both the scene with her and the dead crow, along with the scene where she asks Deider about the stars that are gone, completely captured my heart. And Christ how it broke when she died. I'm getting choked up, typing about it. And, like Elise, in the end, the farewell song by the band was a beautiful one.
This is a really great film and if not for its immense sadness, would easily become a favorite. And who knows, may become in time. It is definitely a must see to be experienced and, after the crying ends, to thoroughly enjoy.
That's a lovely write up. It's a favourite of mine despite it's immense sadness.
Thanks
edarsenal
07-04-17, 05:25 PM
I've edited my post with the list of write-ups (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1729366#post1729366) to include the most recent reviews.
I also PMed Yoda asking if he'd edit a link to my post into Camo's second post on this thread so that people can find the updated list more easily.
You Rock AND Roll!! THANK YOU so much! It is ALL truly appreciated!
That's a lovely write up. It's a favourite of mine despite it's immense sadness.
Thanks
I totally see why. Thanks for nominating it. Would never have seen it otherwise.
and while I forgot to add rauldc14 to the group of quotes, thank YOU, sir
Pussy Galore
07-05-17, 12:14 AM
There might be spoilers, particularly in the ''Jeux d'Enfants'' review
The Three Musketeers: I am ambivalent about my appreciation of the film. I never read the Alexandre Dumas novel and I was expecting a long film in which I'd see an epic classic novel come to life, what I got was a silly comedy. I must admit that this silly comedy was quite funny, but I couldn't get into the story because it was a little silly. Maybe it's because of the expectations I had and that if I saw it as a comedy I might have enjoyed it more, but I really couldn't get into the characters. Dartagnan particularly, who is he? Why is he such a valiant duelist who never backs down from a fight, I'd have like to have an insight into his motivations, into his inner self which I'm sure Dumas did in the book. The action scenes are good, the movie is entertaining, but I don't think that it's a great movie, it's just a fun historical comedy that doesn't really go deep in the psyche of the characters.
Jeux d'Enfants: I saw this film 4,5 years ago when I was quite young and I remember disliking it. It was one of the first really old movies I've seen, it's not foreign for me since french is my mother tongue, but it still was an intimidating film and it might be why I couldn't get into it.
After the rewatch I must say that I love this film, it's a very effective and simple story which was engaging. I enjoyed the grumpy old french father which reminded me of some of my older relatives, I enjoyed the kid actors who are absolutely fantastic. The act of stealing crosses and doing a ''homemade'' cemetary seems pointless to me, but to a children in the context of WW2 and particularly for a child who lost their parent, it has a whole lot of sense, it's sense is, ironically, to try to give sense or meaning to live, to try to do something relevant, to do something about all this horror even though objectively you can't, I how it showed that, but subtly, it let me make my own conclusion.
Finally, and probably my favorite part of the film, the score is absolutely great, it goes perfectly with the story. I knew this music before, but didn't know it was from this film and it just matches perfectly with the shots of the kids together, and the whole nostalgic effect of the film, it's just perfect.
Funny note, wtf the guy dies from a kick by a horse Loool
CosmicRunaway
07-05-17, 04:21 AM
Funny note, wtf the guy dies from a kick by a horse Loool
During the scene where the injury is presented, I also thought it was strange because it looked like he just got knocked over as the horse rushed passed, so I thought his illness was oddly overplayed. I think that eventually there was some dialogue stating that he was actually kicked by the horse, at which point it made a lot more sense to me.
Horses are very powerful creatures. The force of their kick can easily cause a lot of internal damage that the family wouldn't have been able to help heal.
edarsenal
07-05-17, 07:50 PM
a kick by a horse is a VERY dangerous thing. My grandfather was kicked in the chest in the early 40's and died from it.
edarsenal
07-05-17, 11:25 PM
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The Three Musketeers
All for one and one for all
Being that this is my nom, I'm more than just a little bias. Even more so since it is in my top ten of favorites.
It is one of several movies that I loved as a kid and never cease to love and enjoy whenever I get the chance to watch it.
I was in 3rd grade when it came out and it was the comedic moments that gave me the most enjoyment and over the years it is those moments that remain endeared to me. From the first time D'artagnan attempts to swing via rope and miss and land in mud to the closing scene as Constance is bumped and sprawls to the ground by a dummy, this movie continually makes me chuckle. This, along with its second part: The Four Musketeers, remains my favorite of all the renditions of this timeless story.
Though it is not cataloged as a comedy, but as Action/Adventure, I do know the comedy very easily can put people off - understandably. There is, still, so much more that it offers, all the same.
Firstly, the cast. It is quite impressive: Micheal York, Oliver Reed, Richard Chamberlain, Christopher Lee, Faye Dunaway, Raquel Welch, Charlton Heston, being the most notable, and by far, not the least of an excellent cast that are able to play both serious and use slapstick and wit in their roles.
Secondly, the action. There are some wonderful swashbuckling action that does incorporate numerable comedic aspects. Porthos' brawling and using stones, staffs, soap, or whatever to Aramis' cat and mouse strategy whenever he crosses swords with someone. It is a great mix.
Thirdly, Costume and Location. The details of the costumes and some wonderful locations of the palace and the streets of Paris to the countryside are beautiful and are ideal for the iconic story.
While it is so easy to go in to great detail on each of these points, I will keep it short and move on to the next movie in this HoF
rauldc14
07-05-17, 11:46 PM
I like to hear why people like their favorite movies. Even though I didn't like it, it's a nice review Ed!
edarsenal
07-06-17, 01:26 AM
very kind of you, raul, THANK YOU
Am I too late as usual? Anyway if I ever participate, I'll be nominating The Killing Fields AGAIN. For the life of me, I don't know why I'm so keen that people see it. Except for the fact it's abeautiful movie, my fave Vietnam movie, and one of my all time faves. I recomend it to all anyhow once again.
Miss Vicky
07-10-17, 11:01 AM
Am I too late as usual?
Yeah, there's only a few weeks left of this one.
cricket
07-10-17, 11:09 AM
Am I too late as usual? Anyway if I ever participate, I'll be nominating The Killing Fields AGAIN. For the life of me, I don't know why I'm so keen that people see it. Except for the fact it's abeautiful movie, my fave Vietnam movie, and one of my all time faves. I recomend it to all anyhow once again.
Some of us already watched it the last time you nominated it.
Yeah, there's only a few weeks left of this one.
Thanks. :)
Some of us already watched it the last time you nominated it.
Yeah thanks, Cricket! I remember you wrote a review and thought it was a good movie. Maybe I boosted your expectations too much.
rauldc14
07-10-17, 11:47 AM
I will be starting the 14th soon after this is concluded.
I will be starting the 14th soon after this is concluded.
Oh yeah! Thanks Raul! That's great news! I really will be in this time.
Citizen Rules
07-10-17, 02:19 PM
.... Anyway if I ever participate, I'll be nominating The Killing Fields AGAIN. For the life of me, I don't know why I'm so keen that people see it... Beatle, the idea of these Hofs are: it's a group participation, where we all watch all the films from everyone.
It's not just about getting people to watch a movie that you want them to watch. There's been a couple people who in the past have used the Hofs just for that reason. (everyone in the 13th is cool!) and thankful I don't have to have to watch another Anime or Laura.
Beatle, the idea of these Hofs are: it's a group participation, where we all watch all the films from everyone.
It's not just about getting people to watch a movie that you want them to watch. There's been a couple people who in the past have used the Hofs just for that reason. One liked to nominate animes, the other won the first 40s Hof.
Of course. Don't worry, Rules, I know the rules. I'll watch them all. It's just that in the past my health was the issue. I wasn't functional. Hell, I didn't even dare to go in after that 1st fiasco.
Now I recall that I was claiming before I'll be able to finish. I can't remember...did I join anything other than the silents? I menaged to get out soon enough, I don't think I caused any real trouble. Or was that the one I guaranteed for?
What do you say? I'll tell you what. I'll check it out myself, it's my bad anyway. And if I really did guarentee, but went out, I won't join.
What do you say?
Jeff Costello
07-10-17, 02:34 PM
By the way, I only have " Broken Circle Breakdown" ," Dances With Wolves" and "Flesh+Blood" left to watch. I finished "The Quiet Earth", but will wait unitl I'm done with everything to post a multi write-up for the remaining films.
Citizen Rules
07-10-17, 06:16 PM
Of course. Don't worry, Rules, I know the rules. I'll watch them all. It's just that in the past my health was the issue. I wasn't functional. Hell, I didn't even dare to go in after that 1st fiasco.
Now I recall that I was claiming before I'll be able to finish. I can't remember...did I join anything other than the silents? I menaged to get out soon enough, I don't think I caused any real trouble. Or was that the one I guaranteed for?
What do you say? I'll tell you what. I'll check it out myself, it's my bad anyway. And if I really did guarentee, but went out, I won't join.
What do you say? No worries Beatle:), I was talking more figuratively about the overall reasons why we all do the Hofs.
cricket
07-10-17, 06:21 PM
By the way, I only have " Broken Circle Breakdown" ," Dances With Wolves" and "Flesh+Blood" left to watch. I finished "The Quiet Earth", but will wait unitl I'm done with everything to post a multi write-up for the remaining films.
It doesn't seem like Blix has been around in case you want to hold off on Flesh+Blood.
No worries Beatle:), I was talking my figuratively about the overall reasons why we all do the Hofs.
ok, thanks Rules, that's a relief haha
I'd like to say just one more thing before I go too much off topic. Let's be honest, we all know what's this all about - responsability. I mean, if you join and drop out, that's unfair and defeats the purpose. Who knows, maybe there's a nut out there who does it on purpose. But I'm not that nut. I'll really carefully think if I'll join.
edarsenal
07-11-17, 11:20 PM
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The Quiet Earth
For a B Movie, I was, actually, entertained by this.
There was a number of enjoyable scenes before our main character finally comes across two others where, one morning, everyone disappears due to a governmental experiment. Some of those include when he finally decides to live it up a bit. Watching him go from toy trains to actually driving a real train made me chuckle.
While some of the acting is a bit bad, the premise and the follow through easily recognizable from other such "end of the world" scenarios - as I've said, I still was entertained by it all.
I must say I really did like the enigmatic ending, then something else where some kind of social statement is made. The ending KEEPS it in the sci-fi realm of storytelling. For that, I do applaud it.
This is horrendously short, and for that I do apologize. I will summerize and state that this a fun B Movie that was worth a watch. Thanks Clazor!! Another off kilter movie from you that I did enjoy. (The City of Lost Children being my favorite of yours so far)
edarsenal
07-13-17, 10:40 PM
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Captain Fantastic
My initial worry was: I have partook emotionally on two very good, but extremely sad movies and was afraid this would be #3. So I steeled myself and began watching. Hoping I would be able to endure what ever tragedy would come. And the initial moments seemed to reassure that worry. A beautiful, large buck moving through the forest. Even my roommate remarked what was about to occur.
What followed was the enactment of the ritual of passing of childhood into manhood and the discovery of the everyday life that involved both intense physical and mental training for this family we are introduced to. What is also introduced, is a tight, loving family as well.
One that I was caught up in and enjoyed the limited time spent getting to know a little about them.
The catalyst that sends them out of the forest and into "civilized" domain, brings with it, the more painful emotions, the awkwardness and, some of the more touching moments of the film.
While there are a few plot holes within this movie, it still was rather enjoyable for me. AND a great relief to find them, at the end of their sojourn, in a home together, in the country, around the table, reading and writing as a family.
I was truly happy to see them there together. At peace, content; and it caused me to feel the same.
Bravo, @PussyGalore!!
Miss Vicky
07-13-17, 11:19 PM
I got a PM from Clazor asking if Camo's nomination was still in as he'd been having trouble finding it.
So, it looks like Clazor is still in this despite his absence. Also if anybody can help him out with finding Buffalo 66, send him a PM.
rauldc14
07-13-17, 11:20 PM
Where the hell have Sarge and ScarlettLion been?
Miss Vicky
07-13-17, 11:23 PM
ScarletLion posted a response to edarsenal's Broken Circle Breakdown write-up on the 4th. I'll send Sarge a PM and see what's up.
Citizen Rules
07-13-17, 11:25 PM
Ask Blix if he's still in the 13th? He's also in the 40s Hof Part 2 and so far he hasn't posted a thing.
Miss Vicky
07-13-17, 11:29 PM
I PMed Blix on the 10th, but haven't received a response.
rauldc14
07-13-17, 11:30 PM
I'd be surprised if he's in.
rauldc14
07-13-17, 11:32 PM
Just another HOF where people can't commit to finishing, which gets old for me :(
Miss Vicky
07-13-17, 11:45 PM
I'm not too worried about Sarge. He's written up 14/16 of the films, so I expect he'll probably finish. But yeah, not holding out too much hope on Blix coming through.
edarsenal
07-14-17, 01:12 PM
glad to see camo's nom is staying in and I agree Sarge should make it. And sent clazor a link for buffalo 66.
Has anyone seen or heard from neiba at all?
Citizen Rules
07-14-17, 01:22 PM
glad to see camo's nom is staying in and I agree Sarge should make it. And sent clazor a link for buffalo 66.
Has anyone seen or heard from neiba at all?I sent Neiba a couple of nice PMs during his 4th Short Hof, but he never replied, though I seen from his profile that he had logged into MoFo during that time. So I'd say he's gone for good.
Miss Vicky
07-14-17, 01:23 PM
Neiba's profile says his last activity was 4 weeks ago. Not sure what's up. Just sent him a PM. I hope he comes back soon.
Jeff Costello
07-14-17, 01:25 PM
But Sarge has already completed the HoF. Only films he didn't review are "Dead Poets Society" and "Manchester By The Sea". DPS is his own nomination and he already said that he watched MBTS just recently before the HoF started.
Miss Vicky
07-14-17, 01:29 PM
But Sarge has already completed the HoF. Only films he didn't review are "Dead Poets Society" and "Manchester By The Sea". DPS is his own nomination and he already said that he watched MBTS just recently before the HoF started.
He hasn't sent a ballot yet though and hasn't been posting in this thread for awhile.
Miss Vicky
07-14-17, 01:53 PM
Sarge just sent a PM. He's been busy with other stuff, but is planning to watch/rewatch the remaining two and write them up. So yeah no need to worry about him completing.
rauldc14
07-14-17, 01:54 PM
When is the deadline again? I should, know, but I don't remember.
Just wondering when I'll be starting 14th HOF
Jeff Costello
07-14-17, 01:55 PM
When is the deadline again? I should, know, but I don't remember.
Just wondering when I'll be starting 14th HOF
9th of August.
SilentVamp
07-14-17, 07:21 PM
Dead Poets Society
It has probably been almost 20 years since I have seen this movie. Yet, I have seen it enough times, and know it well enough, that I knew I didn’t really have to see it again. I could’ve written something about it without having re-watched it. But I decided to watch it again, anyway, just to see how I would feel about it after all this time.
I apparently liked this movie enough to see it multiple times so that I would end up knowing it so well, but there was also something a tad bit pretentious to me when it came to the film. This wasn’t a forever feeling, but one that developed over time. I am not actually saying the movie itself was pretentious, but the people that supposedly loved it so much. These people acted like the film spoke to them in a very deep way. A way that only a (wannabe) poet could understand. Because, after all, we common folk could never grasp the idea of seizing the day and living life to the fullest. Right? As I realized the fan base that this film had, I was actually turned off from it. I just can’t stand people who think they are intellectuals because they’ve experienced a film like this. And yet, they probably wouldn’t even know what the definition of iambic pentameter is.
Before anyone should possibly get upset with me over it, I am NOT saying everyone is like this – who likes to think of themselves as dreamers or, perhaps, the sort that would think they are daring enough to attempt to make their dreams a reality – but the people I have known in my life have been that way over this film. And they (one person in particular), therefore, completely turned me off of it a long time ago. I didn’t care if I ever watched it again. Like I said, I really didn’t need to, anyway.
Yet, even though I wasn’t going to, something just came over me and told me to watch it again.
And, yes, I do feel the same way I did before about the film. I do think it is a very good movie. I think everyone is fine in it. I like the storyline. I like the overall look of the film. I really like the music. I have no problem with movies that end in the way that this one did. Call it even “corny” if you want to. I don’t care. I like it.
Does the film speak to me? No. If it does to others, OK. I don’t really care, to tell you the truth. Just don’t act like it is such a profound picture because it really isn’t. What this film does do for me, though, is give me a good story. And as I have said many times before, I love just a good story. It is what I watch movies for. I don’t need to watch one that will change my outlook on life. All I want is something that is able to entertain me enough that I really enjoyed watching it. For me, Dead Poets Society does just that. It may have a depressing ending, but I still enjoy watching it, nevertheless.
4.5
SilentVamp
07-14-17, 07:23 PM
Flesh and Blood
This was just 2 hours of debauchery.
That is all it was.
It had potential to be OK. It may have been an average film for me – what I consider to be average, anyway.
But the overuse of displayed debauchery ruined it.
Honestly, if that is what you need to tell a story – or at least to kill some time in that story – don’t make the film at all. Please don’t make me feel like I’ve wasted my time watching it.
Also, the actors sounded like none of them had ever acted before. It was just kind of silly to me.
1.5
I maybe could give it lower, but I won’t be that unkind. I have never given a film under 1.5 before, and I won’t do it now.
SilentVamp
07-14-17, 07:24 PM
SilentVamp: 10/16
Manchester By The Sea (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1691891#post1691891)
The Marriage of Maria Braun (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1705567#post1705567)
The Quiet Earth (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1705568#post1705568)
Forbidden Games (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1705569#post1705569)
The Broken Circle Breakdown (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1705571#post1705571)
Captain Fantastic (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1705572#post1705572)
Buffalo '66 (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1709130#post1709130)
Wings of Desire (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1709131#post1709131)
Dances With Wolves (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1709209#post1709209)
The Quiet Earth (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1709238#post1709238)
I did write something for Nightmare Alley, The Hunt, The Three Musketeers and Spring, Summer...
I will search for them later (I really don't know how long ago I posted them) and then give them to you, if you want to add them to the list later.
edarsenal
07-14-17, 07:44 PM
i'll hold off on Flesh and Blood and put The Hunt near the end for now (though I really need to see that one regardless) and knock out the others I still need to watch. Which should be Buffalo 66, Forbidden Games, The Marriage of Maria Braun. Should be watching either Buffalo or Maria Braun next. No idea which.
Either way I should be finishing up by the end of the month at the latest.
Sorry for the lack of action recently MoFos. Life and all that. Will sort out my last two films this week and get my ballot to Miss Vicky
CosmicRunaway
07-14-17, 09:43 PM
Honestly, if that is what you need to tell a story – or at least to kill some time in that story – don’t make the film at all.
It might be worth keeping in mind that everyone has different preferences and comfort levels when it comes to a film's subject matter or what area of the spectrum between morally righteous and meaningless exploitation a film falls under. I don't think we should be limiting filmmakers to what we are personally comfortable with.
Miss Vicky
07-14-17, 11:32 PM
I did write something for Nightmare Alley, The Hunt, The Three Musketeers and Spring, Summer...
I will search for them later (I really don't know how long ago I posted them) and then give them to you, if you want to add them to the list later.
I tracked them down and added the links. :)
Thanks for taking over Victoria :)
More than anything thanks for keeping me connected to this site, you guys know how i'm are and stuff but Victoria is in a different world in how much people like me want to stick around.
jiraffejustin
07-14-17, 11:41 PM
Hi, Camo!
SilentVamp
07-15-17, 12:18 AM
It might be worth keeping in mind that everyone has different preferences and comfort levels when it comes to a film's subject matter or what area of the spectrum between morally righteous and meaningless exploitation a film falls under. I don't think we should be limiting filmmakers to what we are personally comfortable with.
Alright. Maybe I should clarify this.
If we are talking comfort levels with something like this movie, I was not uncomfortable with it at all. I am not this prudish, priggish, self-righteous sort of person. Truth be told, as with most things in life, I just do NOT care about it.
Having said that, because I don't care, I don't need all of that in a film to make up for the lack of substance in a story. And what this film was for me was a horribly boring film (due to its lack of a good storyline) - with lousy acting.
The only thing it had going for it was the sex, but if sex is all that makes it any good (for lack of a better way to describe it), then it isn't that good to begin with.
As for limiting what filmmakers should make, I really don't care what they do. All I ask is that a little more creativity and thought should be put into films rather than a bunch of grinding of bodies and men sucking on women's breasts. If I want to watch that for two hours, I will watch some porn. If I want to watch a movie, I don't want it filled with that.
Basically, my movies that I have nominated have been picked on for the nit-pickiest things (namely the length of time - I have gotten that a lot), but when something as nonsensical as this gets nominated, you don't hear too many complaints. I really don't understand it.
It was boring. It was a waste of my time and, most importantly, a waste of my money. Neither of which I am getting back.
I didn't like the movie. :)
SilentVamp
07-15-17, 12:19 AM
I tracked them down and added the links. :)
I was just about to search for them. So thanks. :)
MovieMeditation
07-15-17, 03:36 AM
Thanks for taking over Victoria :)
More than anything thanks for keeping me connected to this site, you guys know how i'm are and stuff but Victoria is in a different world in how much people like me want to stick around.
You don't know how glad I am to see you back here my friend. The rumours going around that you left the side for good and without properly announcing it had me sad. :(
You are one of the top staple members of all time on here and when you are not around it can be felt. Welcome back, Camo! :cool:
You don't know how glad I am to see you back here my friend. The rumours going around that you left the side for good and without properly announcing it had me sad. :(
You are one of the top staple members of all time on here and when you are not around it can be felt. Welcome back, Camo! :cool:
I have notifications turned off so yeah don't expect me to respond, that's the main reason i turned them off. The idea of someone being able to call me to them is disgusting.
Thanks alot MM, you are awesome of course :)
CosmicRunaway
07-15-17, 05:41 AM
Basically, my movies that I have nominated have been picked on for the nit-pickiest things (namely the length of time - I have gotten that a lot), but when something as nonsensical as this gets nominated, you don't hear too many complaints. I really don't understand it.
That's an interesting point.
In my case, if I don't take a film seriously (especially if I know that it's not meant to be taken in that manner), I'm probably not going to complain about it too much. I might try harder to find things I do like about it, in order to make it a more enjoyable experience. I think I tend to point out flaws in better movies because a few smaller complaints might stand out more when the rest of the film is great.
That's an interesting point.
In my case, if I don't take a film seriously (especially if I know that it's not meant to be taken in that manner), I'm probably not going to complain about it too much. I might try harder to find things I do like about it, in order to make it a more enjoyable experience. I think I tend to point out flaws in better movies because a few smaller complaints might stand out more when the rest of the film is great.
Sorry SilentVamp i didn't see this until Cosmic quoted it.
It's definitely sexist, i don't think people want to admit because it's a hassle. Look through my posts and you'll see so much sexism that depresses me more than anything. Genuinely sorry for that categorically, complete piece of *****.
Sorry for turning this into a straight white male thing guys, just saying that my gf is so happy (and depressed) that she is white coz it cuts down on her harrasment which depresses and angers me so much.
CosmicRunaway
07-15-17, 06:08 AM
It's definitely sexist, i don't think people want to admit because it's a hassle.
I think I need a little clarification. Do you think the film is sexist, or that the reactions (or lack of negative reactions) towards it is?
I think I need a little clarification. Do you think the film is sexist, or that the reactions (or lack of negative reactions) towards it is?
The reactions (and probably other things but i'm done coz i'm completely irrelevant in every single way way haha).
Jesus, sorry.
To clarify i didn't mean to get myself in the middle of a discussion i have no business being in :coleman:
Cosmic and MV are the best and ignore me :cool:
SilentVamp
07-15-17, 01:17 PM
In my case, if I don't take a film seriously (especially if I know that it's not meant to be taken in that manner), I'm probably not going to complain about it too much. I might try harder to find things I do like about it, in order to make it a more enjoyable experience. I think I tend to point out flaws in better movies because a few smaller complaints might stand out more when the rest of the film is great.
I completely understand this. I have a tendency to nit-pick when it is actually a good movie (when there may be that one thing that just keeps nagging me because I don't know why it is in the film - when the film was so good otherwise). And if it is a film that isn't meant to be taken seriously, I don't really understand why people nit-pick those at all. I probably have, and don't remember, picked on a few not-so-serious movies myself, but I basically don't know why people do it. But with a movie like this one, I think it is supposed to be taken seriously (please correct me if I am wrong). And I think that is what helped to make it so much worse for me when I thought it was also so bad in so many other ways. I just really did NOT like this movie. I wanted to. I really did. I'm not lying. When it started, I thought it was OK, but as it went on, I thought I would lose my mind. I didn't like it.
CosmicRunaway
07-15-17, 01:28 PM
But with a movie like this one, I think it is supposed to be taken seriously (please correct me if I am wrong).
Despite quite a bit of brutality, I didn't think the film had a serious tone at all. There were so many hilariously exaggerated moments (particularly involving Steven) that it was a borderline comedy at times. It felt like one of those graphic sword and sorcery films, just without the fantasy elements. Maybe that's not what was intended, but it's how the film came across to me.
Flesh + Blood
A funny and entertaining romp with some pasing issues, but otherwise totally fine.
The three leads are, at the same time, both interesting and kinda two-dimentional. Leigh's princess is both scheming and surprisingly clueless. She's smart, no doubting that, playing the two men against each other. But she does it at times very clumbsely, only getting away with it because otherwise, it seems, the movie would be over. Martin, being resourceful and somewhat clever at most times, turns a blind eye to her backstabbing repeatedly, calling into question how he ever survived for as long as he has.
With the prince, it's different. For the greater part of the movie, he's chasing her from afar, never getting more than glimpses of her in the distance which she uses to goad him on. What little he knows about her is hearsay, a fair and virginal maiden he hopes to marry. But it's not the character that stood out to me, it was his wonderful toys. The combination tank and ladder truck was the most fun/glaringly out of place thing, but the barrel of gunpowder on a lawn mower handle was also fun.
The rest of the mercenary band has their moments, but for the most part I feel they're there just so Martin can be shown to care for them and later to create conflict. Few of them are more than one note, ranging from the besotted priest to the angry soldier wishing to be in command. Same with the antagonists beyond the prince. His father is evil, the former leader of Martin's band is a bit deeper, but mostly comes down to greedy and backstabber.
All in all, not Verhoovens best, but still entertaining as I said. A bloody, medieval sword and armor tale full of gratuitous nudity in the best 80's style. Funny and entertaining, perfect for a friday night after a long day of work when you're tired and just want to watch someting light and fun. Good pick, Blix! :up:
Buffalo 66'
This girl doesn't give a single, solitary ****, does she?
Going from being forcefully abducted to activly trying to stay with him, Ricci gives the appearance of not being totally sane. I started thinking that it was Gallo's character who really was in trouble, and that any minute the roles would be reversed, him being the one taken hostage with her as the one calling the shots. As is, that didn't happen, which is to bad, as then something interesting would've taken place.
Don't get me wrong; The acting was fine, with all castmembers going thier utmost to create a sense of wierdness throughout the movie. But the story was so slow and thin I had a hard time getting through it. Gallo and Ricci's dialouge help the time pass, managing a wierd semblance of normality that gets shattered every time you remember that he's kidnapped her, leading to a feeling of unease that permiates everything. I sat waiting for a comfrontation that I knew would never come, as he can hardly bare to be touch or looked upon by her. Yes, he grabed her and forced her to her car, but beyond that I feel his threats to be just that. I felt it far more likely that he would wind up dead by her hand than the other way around, as Ricci hasn't been able to shake off the Wendsday Addams feel yet (for me at least). She's even got the dead-eye stare left. Put her in a black dress, have her read some Poe and voilá!
But then there was the dinner with the parents and the diner scene with the crush that had me sitting and waiting for them to be over. Both were uncomfortable and boring, with stuff that we've seen before in every movie where a character lies and inevitably gets found out in the most painfull and embarasing way possible. Which in turn is what they were ment to feel like, so good on the actors to get that across on such a level.
It doesn't make me like it any better, but still, good work.
All in all, good acting from most of the cast, but the slowness of the story and the meager portion of it that we got resulted in something I didn't like very much. I probably did come off a bit harsh though. Sorry, Camo, this just wasn't for me.
The Broken Circle Breakdown
Despite a very stressful day, I was in a relatively good mood when I sat down to watch this a few days ago.
That good mood had escaped me when the movie was over.
It's well acted and I like the music they're performing, but it's just so damn depressing that I never found myself really enjoying what I'm watching. A wierd thing to have to say, but I didn't enjoy watching a couples' life get demolished by their daughter's death, and then watching them try to cope, only to fail and be torn apart.
So while I didn't enjoy it, I can still see the craft in making it, which was on a very high level. Both leads gave great performances, both in the introductory period of thier first meating and getting together, as well as their sorrow and greif in discovering and dealing with their daughter's illness. That felt real, even if the daughter seemed unconcerned by the whole thing. She's all smiles and reassurancethroughout, not even towards the very end.
For me, the real emotional gut punches where in the latter third, and the effect the daughter's passing has on her parents. I actually wept at the very end where the husband and his friends sent her off. That was a nice/heartbreaking moment.
All in all, while I didn't enjoy it, I can respect it for telling such a somber and heavy story in such an emotional and well-paced way. I'm never going back to it, but it feels like it was good to have watched it.
A good pick on an execution level, but screw you for making me feel all these feelings, Scarlett!
(Joking...sort of...:p)
Wings of Desire (Der Himmel Über Berlin)
Wow...This was so much better than the Nicholas Cage version.
I really enjoyed Peter Falk's performance in this. At the start I really didn't get why we were following him of all people, but when we get the answer I really liked it. The fact that he seemed aware of Ganz's character should've tiped me off, but it was subtle enough just to pass it off, as children and certain other people seemed to be able to sense them too.
Actually, about the kids. Could they see them/feel them? They seem to look right at Damiel at times, and when he smiled they did too, but other than that they didn't react. So, are they saying children are still pure enough to actually see the angels or something? And are they pulling double duty as guardian angles as well, influencing the mood of people for the better? Is that really what guardian angels do btw Aren't they suppose to be something of a instinct or a small voice in the back of our heads, leading us away from danger rather than making us feel better? With the jumper, couldn't he have done what Damiel did for the guy on the subway, brightening his mood? Or was he too slow, getting to far away and not couching him before he stepped off the ledge? Questions and more questions, but let's get back to the review.
Ganz plays Damiel very well, a angel lusting for what it is to be human, tasting, feeling, seeing from the groud level rather than from up above, omniscient of all the things he sees people do. The choice of having the angels seeing in black and white, putting a sombre tone over everything, works in the movies favour, creating a feeling, an atmosphere of melancholy and detachment. Everything seems washed out, and during the flashes of color we get before he falls feels like someone flicked a switch and flooded the scene with colors, almost blindingly bright after long periods of grays.
It's beautifully atmospheric, a bit ambiguous with it not giving all the answers (which I liked) and a cast of well directed and talentred actors. A very good pick, Cosmic! :up:
The Three Musketeers
Growing up, I loved the 93' version of The Three Musketeers with Sutherland, Platt and Sheen as the titular heroes. I hadn't heard about this version before joining the forum, but hearing Ed talk about it peaqued my interest and when he nominated it for the HoF I went and got it as well as its sequel. After seeing it, I get why he likes it so much.
It doesn't stand up to the 93' version for me (but then it never could, far too much nostalgia for it to ever be knocked from its perch as my favourite depiction), but it is a good movie without question. It did surprise me a bit, tough; my first thought upon watching the duel scene get interupted by the cardinal's guards was: "Was Reed the only one to show up for fencing practice?"
I mean, I'm saying this as someone who's seen the 93' version and admits to the fact that there's major tom foolery there too, but this was much more slapstick than I thought it would be. Wasn't this the more mature version, the one who actually stuck to the source material? A second later I remembered what the source material actually was, and everything made sense again. Dumas, for his time, made shlock, akin to the trashy romance novels one finds in the magazine racks at the grocery store today. And this we hail as classical litterature today. Just imagine what will happen in two hundered years if the same trend holds true: will Twilight and 50 Shades of Gray be the classics then? Who knows, but to get to my point, the novel is played almost as it is in the movie. The reasons for the duels are at least accurate to the book as I recall. D'Artagnan does bump into the other three and they are, to a man, acting as they did in the book; Porthos trying to hide the fact that his wardrobe isn't what it seems due to a lack of funds, Aramis taking money from a lady friend and Athos being in a foul mood, though I think he was carried into the room due to suffering from massive blood loss and D'Artagnan then bumbing into his injured shoulder. How he then managed to get up and fight later that same day is a mystery to me at least.
What I was truly impressed with, though, was the scene at the tavern where they swiped all the food. Suddenly everything gets more choreographed and much more professional, as it should be, as they are really faking it this time and are moving according to a set rythm. It's really clever when you think about it. Real combat is brawling as we see first, then followed by an in-world bit of showmanship that looks "right" from our point of view, what a fight scene usually looks like. That's a really fun and interesting way of showing some reality in fighting on the part of the director. I approve!
I don't know what to make of the Cardinal. Heston plays him as a serious, scheming mastermind, but there's little else to him. He keeps to the back, never really getting any room to flex acting wise. I must again admit to be colored by the 93' version, with the bombastic (and much more flamboyant) Tim Curry walking around, haming it up and having a blast it seems.
It all depends on what you see first, in my oppinion. I would probably have loved this too if I'd seen this first, but it's still fun romp with good actors and a more faithful leaning towards the book. I will watch the sequel and get back to you Ed.
Until then, great pick! :up:
The Quiet Earth
I think the reason I like this can be summed up in one point: Bruno Lawrence. By no means a extremely talented actor, his portrayal of Zac Hobson found me thinking of one part Michael Douglas from Falling Down and one part Vincent Price from The Last Man on Earth. I also feel that the one thing that stopped Price's character from going the way of Hobson was that he had something to occupy himself with; every day he marked off a day in his calendar, and then went hunting for monsters. Without that, it'd be hello nightgown!
Jokes aside, I do like the first half of the movie very much. Hobson's hunt for other people, his foraging and the voice in the back of his mind telling him that this hunt is futile slowly winning him over and dumping off the cliff of sanity into the "I'm the king of the world" mode. Starting small, with toy trains getting swaped for the real deal, getting fancy clothes and eating better evolving into moving into the nicest house in town and going on an armed rampage. And then, finally, dressing in a nightgown and proclaiming to the world (of cardboard cut-outs) that he is, in fact, god almighty, shows a steadily increasing curve of giving no ***** that the film makers and Lawrence himself does very well.
When Joanna and Api appears, the movie takes a turn for the slower and less interesting, focusing on why they are the only ones alive and how they can possibly do something about it. I'd personally seen them moving away from this and instead focusing on what will be the final shot of the movie. How and why they got there and how they would survive would've been a more interesting story.
As is, they end on Zac alone again, staring out over unfamiliar territory and the audience wondering where he is and how he's gonna get anywhere. It's a beautiful shot, and as I said, I'd preferred that they'd gotten to this point sooner so we could've spent some more time there.
All in all, a better first half than the second, a good performance from the lead and a beautiful ending shot that I felt a bit cheated on a story of what happened there. Still, I like the movie as is, and I hope you guys did too.
The Great Dictator
Not my first Chaplin, but it's te best so far.
To be able to make such a biting, satirical joke of a situation that was still unfoulding during the time of production, and at the same time not belittle the grave and important subject you're trying to joke about is a very fine line to try to walk. And that Chaplin managed to execute it with such success is mind-blowing. In the end, I think it's a matter of degrees. Had he known the full extent of the Nazi's plans, I'm not sure he'd ever tried his hand at doing this movie. As is, the movie and its lead character does an amazing job of both ridiculing and at the same time capturing the movement and style of speach of Hitler. While overacted, the gestured and tone are eerily similar. Chaplin must have studied archival footage of Hitler and learned his manerisms to get it so close. I applaude the effort.
The other side of this is the Barber, being almost the very opposite of Hynkel; a calm and timid man struck with amnesia after the things he's witnessed during battle years earlier. While still acting a bit "Trampish", it's still a character of his own, with his own quirks and little touches to make him a different character. Chaplin plays both character with an ease and, it seemed to me, a subtle joy. There's a juxtaposition here though. While Hynkel, the seemingly more serious character, gets less physical comedy, he's clearly the sillier character. And the Barber, with his physical comedy bits, gets the calmer, more serious role. He's the grounded one, which might not be so wierd, as massive amounts of power would unsettle most people from their more rational selves. Besides, playing Hynkel more straight would only frame him as too much like Hitler, so I guess it makes sense.
Regarding the comedy with Hynkel, I preffered the verbal stuff to the physical. His fake german speeches, the banter with Napaloni, his talks with Garbitsch, all of it backed up with physical jokes, but enforced by the dialogue. The one exception (of course) is the Baloon globe scene. That was a masterfull scene and I totally get why it's so iconic. The floating movements and his light steps give the apperance that he's taking the world for a dance, deciding it's every movement by the lightest touch of his will. I wonder if we can draw some parallels to his desire to rule the world ;)
And then the ending, where Chaplin breaks the fourth wall and adresses the audience of the 40's with his pleas to the better part in all of us. It's still powerful now, but at the time it must have hit a nerve with the audience.
I think this is my favourite so far in the HoF, and I wouldn't be surprised if it wins.
A great pick for a nom, Vamp! I love it! Very nice! :up:
cricket
07-17-17, 05:24 PM
Great to see you Clazor, I'll watch The Quiet Earth tonight!
edarsenal
07-17-17, 08:29 PM
great reviews, clazor! Always get a kick out of your views. :)
cricket
07-17-17, 09:30 PM
The Quiet Earth
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This was the movie I would have thought I'd like the least, with not being a big Sci-Fi fan. I mean, I don't care for a lot of the popular movies of the genre, and I don't think this would even fit into that category. It reminded me of a few other movies I've seen, but especially the movie that CR nominated for a movie of the month, but the name of that escapes me at the moment. I thought that other movie was a little better, but I enjoyed this one a whole lot more than I anticipated. The first half hour was slow, and while I wasn't bored, the second character, who was my favorite, entered the picture just in time. I was just on the brink of going mad along with the first guy. I thought it was a great moment when they hugged. It seemed odd for a second, but then not at all as it settled in. When the third character appears a half hour later, this was when what I thought was the most interesting dynamic took over. You've got the last girl on earth and two men, and I think that is a fascinating situation. My only question is why the third character would hold the gun on them for an extended period at first. I would think he'd be happy as hell to find out he's not alone. Anyway, it's not brilliant, but I really enjoyed this movie, and I think it's much better than some movies on the two different Sci-Fi lists we have.
3.5
cricket
07-17-17, 09:31 PM
That's it for me; who should I send my list to?
Miss Vicky
07-17-17, 10:41 PM
That's it for me; who should I send my list to?
Camo hasn't expressed any desire to take back hosting duties, so send it to me.
If you want me to take over i will. Just thought it'd be weird to drop out from hosting then come back and take over again. It's up to you.
Wasn't Citizens movie of the month Forbidden Planet or was that someone else? I know it was nominated by someone anyway.
Miss Vicky
07-17-17, 11:06 PM
I don't mind either way.
Dances With Wolves
It's been ten years since I saw it last...it will probably be another ten years before I see it again.
This moved just a bit too slow for me. But at the same time, I can't figure out what I'd cut to improve the pacing. Everything that's in the movie seems to have a point, one thing building on to another on to another. Overall, it's very well put together, so why do I repeatedly catch myself looking at the time and working out how much more there is left?
Is it the actors? Well, I liked the Sioux and Pawnee well enough, they had a range of good actors, from Greene and Grant (Kicking Bird and Wind In His Hair) to Westerman (Ten Bears).
The soldiers? Maybe, but they were all either ******** or not there long enough to make an impression, with the exception of the base commander with the (I suspect) mental problems atributable to alcohol. He was the one interesting character in the whole opening segment, and he killed himself three minutes after we meet him.
And the lead? It's Kevin Costner, he's not what you'd call versital when it comes to his acting. I've always compared him to a less talented Clint Eastwood; if he isn't staring at something with a stern expression, he's looking down into his lap and pretending to think about something. That might not be totally fair, and I've liked him in other stuff, but here he just seems disinterested to me. He acts, but he doesn't seem to put much effort in, and the monotone voice overs doesn't help.
McDonnell does do a good job with what she gets, but when most of it centers around being the go-between during someone elses talk, it doesn't leave much room for her character.
The things I did enjoy centered around the different shots of the locations. The beautiful open skies, the rolling hills and the massive herds of buffalo and wild horses were all very well shot, and the hunting scenes were fast paced and exciting.
All in all, it's a technically very well made movie that suffers from pacing issues and a not interesting enough lead for my taste. I'm sure you guys liked it better, but for me this wasn't one of my favourites so far.
ScarletLion
07-18-17, 11:31 AM
'Flesh and Blood' - "When a man is hanged - he comes". What a line. Althoiugh quite an odd film in terms of tone, I quite liked this movie for the sheer zanyness of it, plus the ending was a proper old school twist type. Some of it was quite off the wall in mixing violence with period drama and history (of sorts). I've seen a few Verhoeven now and he's certainly not afraid of approaching the harsher aspects of life. This was testament to that. I would say that the acting wasn't great (Rutger Hauer aside) and seems to have dated and I couldn't really get invested into any of the main characters as they all appeared to be pretty monstrous. Oh and it was nice to see a fresh faced Bruno Kirby even though he did make me want to burst out laughing when I saw him. But overall it's nice to add another Verhoeven to the collection.
'The Three Musketeers' - Unfortunatey I couldn't get into this. I don't know whether it's because there's been so many adaptations of the age old tale or because it was just so horribly dated. But the acting, the action and general atmosphere just didn't do it for me. Even Ollie Reed's character couldn't pull me through. Perhaps it was just Directed in a time where the movie industry was on the verge of morphing into something else and the style wasn't quite captured. The accents etc just felt misplaced. Maybe it's just me looking to hard to find something that wasn't there. One for another time maybe.
'Dances with Wolves' - This is going to be a rewatch for me, but I know where I'll put it in my list. So I think that's me done with all the films on the list.
The Hunt (Jagten)
There's suspense...and then there's suspense. This is the latter.
Let me paint you a picture of what that line ment: I sat down to eat dinner and put this movie on. From about the 20 minute mark I was so into the story and the characters, that as the movie ended, I realized I'd only taken two bites. That's how much this movie grabed me.
I've always been a fan of Mikkelsen, but in this he knocked it out of the park. His portrayal of a innocent man accused of a heinous act and what he goes through is amazing. He acts calm and composed at first, just keeping his head down and hoping it will blow over, but as all his friends and coworkers (and the rest of the town) starts turning on him, he seems to almost go into shock. And what few people that believes him soon faces a similar treatment. Getting attacked multiple times, he finally breaks down and everything he's held back comes out in the middle of a christmas sermon. The lead-up to this is one of the best scenes in the movie, coming on the heels of a rather brutal assault by some grocers.
All praise to the supporting cast as well, with special mention going to Larsen, portraying the father of the alleged victim. The former best friend of Mikkelsen's character, he wrestles with the situation from the moment he gets the news until the end. I can't recall ever seeing in anything else, but I think I should've, if this performace is any indication of his skill. He ranges from heartbroken and confused about the news of the situation, going into a furious rage and then, in the church, into pure anguish as he's torn between believing his best friend or his young daughter. A nicely seeded point is raised at the beginning, an off-hand comment about him always being able to spot when Lucas is lying due to a facial twitch. This is brought back with force at the church as Lucas lunges at him, grabs him by the head, forcing him to look into his eyes and demands that he tells him if he sees anything. "There is nothing!", Lucas screams, "Nothing!" Then he leaves him there, even more confused and anguished than before.
I loved this. It's well told, perfectly acted and shows how easely anyone and everyone can turn on you.
Also, I loathed the ******* headmistress or whatever she was, Grethe. She did everything wrong that you could do wrong. Everything. From speaking with him while the kids were there, to not sending him home immediately after notifying him of the accusation. She brought in a incompetent child psychologist (if he really was that) that asked very leading questions and without notifying the girls parents until after they'd had the initial interview. She should've been sacked on the ******* spot after misshandeling everything so bad. And all her attempts to be delicate instead of giving the facts straight to the parents in regards to what the little girl actually said only made the situation worse. Fine, they may have given the details off screen afterwards, but that vauge wavering only causes more pain as the parents' minds go whirring into overdrive imagening all that could've happend. Urgh, I hated that stupid, incompetent *******.
Yeah, so that movie stirred up emotions.
As I said, a very good (if disturbing) movie with a great cast. So glad to have gotten the chance to watch it. Great pick, Neiba! :up:
So, that makes ten now. I've got Forbidden game, Captain fantastic, Dead poets, Spring, summer..., Nightmare alley and Maria Braun left. Are we all just waiting for me, or is there someone else who's got movies left to review?
Told you guys we could count on Clazor :up:
Off the top of my head there's Sarge and it looks like Neiba and Blix are most likely out, maybe not tho who knows.
Last 2 tomorrow for me :cool:
edarsenal
07-18-17, 08:13 PM
I still have 5, or if blix and neiba is out, I have 3; Buffalo 66, Forbidden Games, and Marriage of Maria Braun, though my count shows 10 out of 16.
I have become the late mate of these HoFs recently lol
Pussy Galore
07-19-17, 08:07 AM
Buffalo 66:
Sorry that wasn't my cup of tea, Vincent Gallo is one of those actors that annoys me for no particular reason, I don't find him compelling nor funny, he just annoys me. I know that's an unfair criticism, but I don't pretend to be objective or to give a fair review of the quality of the film in general, I just talk about my appreciation of it which was very poor, I couldn't wait for it to end. I don't really know what else to say, I guess the film tries to be funny. Overall I guess the problem was that I didn't care for any of the characters (particularly Vincent Gallo), they all seemed stereotypes of human beings and it didn't work for me. Sometime it doesn't bother when character are stereotypes (for instance in Tarantino movies), but in those instance I am entertained by something else, there wasn't this ''something else'' in this film.
So sorry Camo, I know it's not a very fair criticism, but it's how I felt haha.
So sorry Camo, I know it's not a very fair criticism, but it's how I felt haha.
No problem. I think that's a fair criticism.
Pussy Galore
07-19-17, 08:13 AM
However, I must say the music is very good and I enjoyed some parts because of it. Particularly the one in the bowling alley was very cinematic.
Pussy Galore
07-19-17, 12:48 PM
Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter and Spring.. (there are spoilers)
I just rewatched this film, I remember seing it 3,4 years ago and absolutely loving it for it's calmness, it's beauty, it's wisdom. I must say that it didn't really have the same impression, I found the buddhist monk to be an incredibly immoral man and the lesson he teaches to be pointless. In other words, what at 17 years old I saw as wisdom, I see it now at 21 as lack of rationnality. I'll explain by giving some exemples. At the beggining of the film, the master sees the child putting a rock on the back of different animals, instead of telling him right away he waits the day after, puts a rock on the back of his pupil and tell him to go back where he was the day before to free the animals. To me, that means that the animal do not have any intrinsic value, it is more important to him to teach his pupil a lesson than to free the animals of non necessary suffering (which was the reason why harming the animals was wrong in the first place). Other examples are this idea of constantly punishing people for their sin, you can see that in the young man when he feels ashamed to have sexual desires, or when the old monk commit suicide because he feels guilty that he failed to educate correctly his pupil I suppose. Also, I find his vision of ''the way of men'' which ultimately lead the young guy to murder is far fetched, I wouldn't say that the existence of jealousy implies murder impulse, I think it's more realistic to think that the character is a little bit of a psychopath than the way of man might lead to murder haha.
That being said it is a beautifully shot film, has a very calm feel to it and is pleasant to watch. I never read buddhist philosophy, it might be in agreement with it so if you're a buddhist and the message doesn't bother you then it might be a masterpiece haha.
Citizen Rules
07-19-17, 01:10 PM
....At the beggining of the film, the master sees the child putting a rock on the back of different animals, instead of telling him right away he waits the day after, puts a rock on the back of his pupil and tell him to go back where he was the day before to free the animals. To me, that means that the animal do not have any intrinsic value, it is more important to him to teach his pupil a lesson than to free the animals of non necessary suffering...That's an insightful analysis. I hadn't thought of that, but now that you mention it, I agree. In Buddhism all life is sacred, so the monk would have first freed the animals from their suffering, then taught his student a lesson why it was wrong.
Captain Fantastic
That's the best acoustic cover of "Sweet Child O' Mine" I've ever heard. Great vocalist, nice beat, lovely harmonies and a killer harmonica player.
It's the little things :p
Viggo Mortensen is another actor I've always liked, ever since I first saw him in G.I. Jane. Since then I've seen most of what he's done, always at least liking them and often finding them great. In this case, it falls to the liking side. I wasn't wowed by his performance here, but it's still a very good role. Playing the father of a family that just lost their mother, Mortensen has to pull them from the forest they've been living in since before most of the children were born and enter modern life, somthing the children, while well red and trained to survive in the wild, seem a bit unqualified for. They posses rudamentary social skills, but their lack of interaction with other people their own age (as well as a total lack of current popular culture) sets them at odds when meeting people in an urban environment. The actors portraying these children are fine, with the stand-out performance being MacKay, playing the eldest son Bo. Being the one with the most lines and the lion's share of the screen time, he's the one who gets the most fleshed out, it's not surprising that he stands out (to me, at least) as the most memorable character of the children. The girls, too, are both well played and have their own voices in the movie, but the younger kids blend together in my mind. I kept mixing up the two youngest kids, and it took me a long time to really nail down who was who.
As to the way the film was shot, I liked the intimacy of the campfire scene in the beginning, and how it was mirrored in the final shot with them all together again round the kitchen table. The quiet just before Mortensen interrupts their reading by going round the circle and checking their progress was a nice touch too, speaking to the ease with which they all could just sit there comfortably and enjoying each others company without feeling the need to fill the silence. Then to break that stillness with the impromptu creation of music that they, one after another, joined into showed just how broad their skills were. It does seem like Ben and Leslie did a good job of raising these kids, the unconventional means of which not withstanding.
It's a nice, warm movie about how our families shape us and, for good or bad, it can mold us into very specific individuals, both to help us and to hinder us in one way or another.
All in all, I liked this. It has its quirks, which I liked, while some lines just made me laugh and/or squirm uncomfortably a little.
Good pick, PG! :up:
CosmicRunaway
07-19-17, 07:27 PM
Other examples are this idea of constantly punishing people for their sin, you can see that in the young man when he feels ashamed to have sexual desires, or when the old monk commit suicide because he feels guilty that he failed to educate correctly his pupil I suppose.
I didn't get the impression that the old monk committed suicide because he felt guilty. His life was nearly at an end, and it was time to make way for his replacement. I thought it was a tradition, especially since the younger monk retrieved his remains, and placed them in an area of spiritual power, as though it were an expected part of his journey.
As for the old monk not saving the animals: yes, he could easily have freed each of them. However what lesson would that teach his pupil - that his actions have no consequences or that his mentor will always be there to fix his mistakes? I liked that the old monk set the stage for the child to decide himself, rather than stepping in. It forced the child to come to terms with suffering first hand, and to determine whether that suffering meant anything to him.
Pussy Galore
07-19-17, 10:03 PM
I didn't get the impression that the old monk committed suicide because he felt guilty. His life was nearly at an end, and it was time to make way for his replacement. I thought it was a tradition, especially since the younger monk retrieved his remains, and placed them in an area of spiritual power, as though it were an expected part of his journey.
Fair enough, I can see that. I guess my lack of spirituality affected my appreciation of the moment. Also, I don't see how it is mutually exclusive that the younger monk lives there and takes command in a sense while the older one still lives.
As for the old monk not saving the animals: yes, he could easily have freed each of them. However what lesson would that teach his pupil - that his actions have no consequences or that his mentor will always be there to fix his mistakes? I liked that the old monk set the stage for the child to decide himself, rather than stepping in. It forced the child to come to terms with suffering first hand, and to determine whether that suffering meant anything to him.
It's good for the younger monk, but not for the animals, particularly for the fish and the snake that died in agony. I personally do value animal now (I wasn't vegetarian anf aware of the animal liberation movement the first time I saw the film so it didn't really bother me, now it did haha).
Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter...and Spring
So much for monks being gentle souls who'd never hurt a fly.
First off, yes the animal cruelty put me at odds with the movie when I saw it. If you're going to harm animals during your movie, its not gonna get high remarks from me. The wierdest thing was the cat, though: he's shown to be in possesion of several brushes, why use the poor cat as a writing implement? You could clearly see it was uncomfortable and trying to get away (go figure) and it was just unnecessary cruelty.
As to the visuals, I've found that there seems to be two styles used proliffically in korean cinema, and that is idyllic settings when a story takes place in nature, and the dark, grimy grays of an urban enviroment. I can't remember a korean film I've seen that doesn't use this shorthand. Even in movies set in the urban atmosphere, if you reach a park or a forrested area, suddenly the mood brightens and color creeps into frame. This might be an asian stylistic motif rather than a strictly korean one, but it's shown up most often in korean movies for me. With this movie, everything looks gorgeous. Every season is portrayed in a very idylic light, even the winter. Spring is bathed in golden light and pink blossoms, summer in lush greens. Fall has all the markings of a seasonal greeting card with the leaves going in shades of red, yellow and orange, while the winter, cold and grey as it is, still shines with the white of the snow and the dark hues of the evergreen.
As the apprentice returned after his imprisonment and found the remains of his master, what he did with them struck me as something really beautiful. Carving a Buddah from the frozen waterfall, he afixes the remains in the forehead and puts the statue under the fall. There it will melt and carry his master down river and to a new beginning.
As a final note, I'd like to discuss the seeming restart to the cycle with the new apprentice copying the new master. Does this mean he'll go through the rest of it too? Is this how it always happens? Does each "Holy One" commit murder, only to end up as a wise man helping sick people?
When I saw this, I was reminded of Chow Yun-Fat's character "The Monk" from "Bulletproof Monk". After giving advice about women, he's asked how he knows about this stuff. He answers that he wasn't born a monk. Now all I can think is that this gentle man secretly is a wife killer. Thank you very much movie!
Overall, a beautiful movie with some big issues with treatment of animals. That fault, however, lies with the creator rather than the movie itself. It was nice to look at and had some absurdist funny moments. Maybe not a favourite, but it's not bad. A good enough pick, Nestorio.
edarsenal
07-20-17, 10:37 PM
Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter...and Spring
So much for monks being gentle souls who'd never hurt a fly.
As a final note, I'd like to discuss the seeming restart to the cycle with the new apprentice copying the new master. Does this mean he'll go through the rest of it too? Is this how it always happens? Does each "Holy One" commit murder, only to end up as a wise man helping sick people?
When I saw this, I was reminded of Chow Yun-Fat's character "The Monk" from "Bulletproof Monk". After giving advice about women, he's asked how he knows about this stuff. He answers that he wasn't born a monk. Now all I can think is that this gentle man secretly is a wife killer. Thank you very much movie!
:laugh:
CosmicRunaway
07-21-17, 06:02 AM
The wierdest thing was the cat, though: he's shown to be in possesion of several brushes, why use the poor cat as a writing implement?
In Korean folklore, cats ward against and can dispel evil spirits. I assumed that using the cat's tail instead of a normal brush to write out the heart sutra was an attempt to help cleanse the young monk's soul.
Ok, make sense. Thanks for the info, Cosmic. :up:
Forbidden Games (Jeux Interdits)
Chlid-like innocence and grave robbery...two great tastes that don't taste great together?
I'm a bit confused as to what I realy think about this movie. The central concept was interesting, how a religous centric family can make a atheisticly raised child understand and come to terms with the concept of death seen their way, when she has none of their frames of reference to draw from. I say family, it's the youngest son in said family that tries to explaine what he's been taught about death to a girl even younger than him while he himself hasn't fully come to terms with it. Is it suprising that the result is a bit...left of center?
That they chose to hang the movie on two very young actors and their abilities, I found a daring gamble, but it seems it paid out, as they do have a chemistry between them that seasoned actors have struggled to match. Fossey manages to pull off a shell-shocked young girl who can't really fathom that her parents are gone, without making such innocence come off as stupidity, and Poujouly has a warmth and kindness to him, combined with a degree of both cleverness and cluelessness that makes him endearing. It's too bad then that I got absolutely nothing out of the rest of the cast. I know we're not ment to sympathise with them, but it's not really that, but the fact that they're all just so bland/uninteresting. Combine that with a ending that came out of nowhere and felt very rushed (apparently circumstances forced them to shoot it like this on account of time constraints? I'm not sure) and we end on something that felt overall like a big "meh" for me.
Good main actors, interesting concept executed well but finished poorly and a total lack of emotional respeonce from the other cast members. Not really my thing, it seems. Sorry, Costello.
The Mariage of Maria Braun (Die Ehe der Maria Braun)
Love her or hate her, Maria Braun is a woman who knows what she want and she'll do anything (or, indeed, anyone) to get it, and for that she has my respect...if not my liking.
She was sympathetic in the beginning, doing what she had to to survive and even getting a job that didn't include a horizontal position. But after the news of her husbands death, I think something broke, and it didn't get better when he turned back up just after she found out that her new lover had gotten her with child. Post sentencing, she really turned into the Maria of the second half; calculating, cold, controlling, but still with a mission that we can get behind. She wants to build a life for her and her husband, but doing what is necessary to achive this warps the woman who got married in the beginning beyond recognition, to the point where lusting for control over her life seems to become the goal above all else. And when that hunger for automacy is revealed to be a lie, it has a massive consequence. Be it intentional or a mistake on her part, the news shakes her so that she blows herself up along with all that she fought to acquire.
Schygulla does a great job as Maria, but besides her I didn't feel much for the rest of the cast. They did well enough, but they utterly failed to make an impression. Combine that with the fact that the movie felt like a slog to get through, with a story you could've done in 90 minutes getting draged out over two hours, and I'm left rather cold to this movie.
All in all, a comanding if cold main character and a great performance from Schygulla, but only a mediocre pacing and other cast. Sorry to say, but I'm not that much of a fan.
EDIT:
After thinking on it for a day, I've come to the conclusion that I've been a bit hard on some of the castmembers, namely the men portraying Hermann and Karl. Both did a better job than I gave them credit for, with Karl being the one I feel worst about short changing. He did a good job, and he did seem to genuinely care for Maria. The scene where he gets rejected after confessing that the trip he'd planned was to propose to her was rough on him, and his attempt to get Hermann out of the picture, while desperate and in the end catastrophic, showed the length he'd go to in his efforts to be with her. To have her so coldly snub him, I wouldn't have been surprised if he'd gone down the route of rage and sudden violence. As is, he seemed a good man, if unable to take a no for an answer.
Nightmare Alley
From the title, I expected a detective story of noir style, following a PI on the hunt for a killer...what I got was the story of the rise and fall of a talented hustler.
I don't know if I'm dissapointed or not.
The story itself wasn't hard to guess as we're introduced to our main character as he witnesses a freak show act with something referred to as a "Geek". Upon seeing the man playing the geek he wonders aloud what could drive a man so low as to take up that as a job. I now know where the main character is going to end up by the end of the movie. But it was the road to that end which interested me all the more. That actually raced past with surprising briefness, and never during that time did I feel bored or less than interested. I caught myself many a time sitting and collecting the pieces of the story and trying to anticepate the end. I guessed right on some of them, but I was far afield on some point. For instance, I sat waiting for the reveal that Zeena was the mastermind of his downfall, having worked with the psychiatrist and his wife to avenge herself for his role in the death of her husband. That was not correct, but we instead get a sort of non-ending where the story just stops going. I guess it suggests that he and his wife ends up where Zeena and Pete where when the movie started, but I never saw the wife showing any skills necessary to take on a solo act. With them, it was Zeena that read minds and Pete doing the calling. I don't see how this will work, with the performer being the drunk and the assistant running things. And yes, I get the callback to the beginning with the same question uttered, but it felt hollow, somehow. It didn't carry the same foreboading and mystery, because now we do know how it happened.
As to the performances (the acts, that is, rather than the acting), I've always been a fan of practical magic, and seeing behind the curtain is a treat I never tire of. Them explaining the code words, for instance, was really interesting, as it's a simple trick when you know how it's done (as with all types of performances like this) but when you're in the audience, it's almost enough for you to believe it.
As a final thing, did anyone else think that for a second Christopher Lloyd had started his carrer early? The actor playing Pete sounded so like him when he put on his acting voice and did his schpiel for Stan that I started to question when this movie came out.
Well, maybe not; while it is technically possible, Lloyd was nine at the time, so I guess that would have interfered with his elementary school scheduel.
A good enough story with a compelling cast, this was a fine movie. Good pick, CR! :up:
Just one left for me, will probably pop up sometime tomorrow.
rauldc14
07-23-17, 12:31 PM
I remember when this was almost going to be the first perfect HOF as in no drop outs.
Pussy Galore
07-23-17, 12:43 PM
Which films exactly aren't in contention anymore haha?
I'm leaving on a bike trip in a couple days so I have to watch the remaining films in the next 2 days.
(I already watched Nightmare Alley and haven't reviewed it yet so I'd have Dances with Wolves and The Great dictator to rewatch and Fresh + Blood to watch)
Citizen Rules
07-23-17, 12:49 PM
I remember when this was almost going to be the first perfect HOF as in no drop outs.There was no drop outs in the 10th Hof:p You're hosting next, so see what solutions you can come up with for the drop out conundrum.
Which films exactly aren't in contention anymore haha?
I'm leaving on a bike trip in a couple days so I have to watch the remaining films in the next 2 days.
(I already watched Nightmare Alley and haven't reviewed it yet so I'd have Dances with Wolves and The Great dictator to rewatch and Fresh + Blood to watch)Flesh + Blood is Blix's movie, he hasn't been online in 6 weeks.
Miss Vicky
07-23-17, 01:02 PM
Which films exactly aren't in contention anymore haha?
I'm not making any decisions just yet, but Flesh + Blood and The Hunt are in danger of being disqualified. Both Blix and Neiba have been M.I.A. for several weeks. I'm hoping they show up in time and have the movies watched.
Pussy Galore
07-23-17, 01:04 PM
Perfect then you'll have my list tuesday.
And I forgot Wings of Desire also that I have to rewatch (just to clarify that I haven't forgotten the film haha)
Citizen Rules
07-23-17, 01:08 PM
Perfect then you'll have my list tuesday.
And I forgot Wings of Desire also that I have to rewatch (just to clarify that I haven't forgotten the film haha)Peter Falk is an angel and Colombo;)
edarsenal
07-23-17, 01:27 PM
Peter Falk is an angel and Colombo;)
HE'S COLOMBO?!?!?
:D
cricket
07-23-17, 01:42 PM
My list is complete; who should I send it to?
Miss Vicky
07-23-17, 01:47 PM
My list is complete; who should I send it to?
Me.
cricket
07-23-17, 01:50 PM
Me.
Sent
Dead Poets Society
Trying to quantify the level of excellence in a poem by creating a graft. What's his next trick? Trying to objectivley judge the quality of music by writing an equation? (mind you, there's a difference between quality and popularity)
While being most famous for his comedic roles, my favourites of Robin Williams have always been the more dramatic ones. My top spot has been filled by Good Will Hunting for a while, but it has gotten competition of late in the form of both Garp and now Dead Poets. Mr Keating is a compelling character, inspiering a class of young men by his passion for poetry, something not appreciated by the stiff focus on theory over practice that the school in general strives toward. Above all else, Williams brings his seemingly never ending energy to the roll, in colaboration with his flawless comedic timing, and creates a man that quickly becomes a figure of respect and humanity to the core group of young men with which we follow the proceedings of the movie. His quick wit and good humour brings a levity to the classroom and life to a subject most of the boys took to be nothing more than an arduous task to be gotten through rather than something to experience.
As for the "boys", there were some good actors among them too, some of which would go on to have some big careers in front of them. Leonard, for one, was my favourite. A high-performing student with a love of acting, he takes to his new teacher and brings back a long forgotten club to life. Problems with his father and his inability to face up to him leads on to a confrontation with dire consequences. The simple and overwhelming joy he showed at being able to act was infectious, and we feel for him as he tries to explain what acting means to him, but either he's so sure what his father's reaction will be, or he loses his nerve yet again. Whatever the reason, he finds a way of dealing with the outcome.
I thought Eathan Hawke's performance to be a bit underwhelming at places, but he grew on me toward the end. We never get to know much about him, other than the fact that his parents are lousy gift-givers. This, as with most of the other students we follow throughout the movie, keeps us from really getting to know them. But, as I thought they spent little enough time on Williams as it was, I guess it's a necessary sacrifice.
As for the rest of the cast, they're pretty much stock characters, there to provide hinderance for our protagonists, and nothing more. The pricipal is the stodgy diciplinarian, the parents "just don't get their sons" and overall, were pretty underwhelming.
All in all, a good movie with some great characters, brought down a bit by the lack of the fleshing out of the rest of the cast (a lot of "of's" in that sentence). Still, I liked it and Williams always delivers.
Good pick, Sarge! :up:
That's me done then, will send my list shortly.
This has been a fun HoF, but in light of it being my third or fourth one in a row, I think I'll bow out of the coming HoFs for a while. I kinda feel a bit burnt out at the moment, so a couple of months away from this will hopefully mean I can come back with some new energy to participate more.
Citizen Rules
07-23-17, 05:35 PM
That's me done then, will send my list shortly.
This has been a fun HoF, but in light of it being my third or fourth one in a row, I think I'll bow out of the coming HoFs for a while. I kinda feel a bit burnt out at the moment, so a couple of months away from this will hopefully mean I can come back with some new energy to participate more.You're the man Clazor! I admire your stick-to-it-ness:up:
I know you joined a lot of Hofs all around the same time, and so had a ton of movies to watch. Others might have given up and dropped out, but you showed real dedication and finished them all!...so good for you!
I do hope you'll join future Hofs, I like having you in them...But I understand when a person does too many Hofs at the same time, they change from a fun endeavor, to hard work...and Hofs should be fun.
When you have time and feel like it, I hope to see you join again:)
rauldc14
07-24-17, 11:21 AM
Will people still be up for the 14th Hall of Fame in August?
CosmicRunaway
07-24-17, 01:54 PM
When in August were you planning to start it?
cricket
07-24-17, 02:02 PM
Will people still be up for the 14th Hall of Fame in August?
Yep
Think i'm going to sit out the next few Hall of Fames too. I've been in like nine in a row ever since the 10th whenever that was. Would like to use my time to pick my own movies for a while.
I'm done too. Will do my final reviews and send my list over asap
rauldc14
07-24-17, 07:58 PM
When in August were you planning to start it?
Probably when I get back from vacation, August 16th or 17th
edarsenal
07-24-17, 10:11 PM
I'll be in. Already have my nom picked out.
Pussy Galore
07-26-17, 04:02 PM
I'm sending my list now.
Quick words on each films
Dances with Wolves, it was a rewatch I absolutely loved it, I was absorbed into the story, I thought the narration was absolutely incredible, the imagery fantastic, great film.
Nightmare Alley: Nothing wrong with the film, just kind of forgettable in my opinion. The biggest strenght of the film is Tyrone Power's performance, you clearly see a shift in his attitude at 2 points during the film, at the beggining he is quite innocent and really loves the circle, then he became greedy and wanted to be big and be famous instead of an artist and then toward the end when he became a drunk. The psychonanalyst was hot also.
Wings of Desire, this is a beautiful film, very artistic. I thought the first hour was a beautiful, but I lost interest toward the end a little bit. I liked the girl character, I thought she was intelligentely depressive if such a thing exist haha.
The Great Dictator: As I remembered a very good classic Chaplin film, less cinematic then City Lights or Modern Time, but a very good and important message specially in 1940.
Pussy Galore
07-26-17, 09:20 PM
Did you receive it Miss vicky? haha
Miss Vicky
07-26-17, 10:35 PM
Did you receive it Miss vicky? haha
Yep, I got it.
edarsenal
07-27-17, 12:01 AM
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Buffalo 66
Has I've said in the beginning of this HoF I have not seen this since it first came out in the theaters. Back then, I applauded Christine Ricci for breaking free of the little kid movies she had been in stuck doing, with such determination and courage at taking such roles as this in those first few years after the Addams Family that could have very easily labeled her and boxed her in, creatively.
Rewatching this, well, to be absolutely honest, that look on Gallo's face was mine for the duration of this film.
I read Camo's and then everyone's review and was pleased at such an excellent range of emotion, appreciation and/or disgust that I'm very sure Camo should be proud and very pleased with such a wide spectrum of positive and negative criticism. Most of which were rather passionate, and in the end, that is the real win.
I suppose I could go into a rant, but find myself lacking the clever dialogue to make it funny and an enjoyable read. I'm overly concerned that I'd most likely burst out, much like the characters in this movie, saying the wrong thing in some callous harsh manner.
And, instead, say: I was pretty pleased with all the cameos, though and yes, seeing Layla bowl a strike DID make me grin.
Citizen Rules
07-27-17, 03:28 AM
Buffalo 66...I suppose I could go into a rant, but find myself lacking the clever dialogue to make it funny and an enjoyable read. I'm overly concerned that I'd most likely burst out, much like the characters in this movie, saying the wrong thing in some callous harsh manner.
Come on Ed, you owes us;) What didn't you like about the movie? Don't worry I've hated plenty of peoples noms too, though I happen to like Buffalo 66. So spill it bro:p
edarsenal
07-27-17, 01:26 PM
I always hate tearing on a nom, so I'll tell ya what, CR, if camo wants to hear, since it is his, then, yeah, I spill it :)
Sorry for the delay. Been on holiday. I still have to write two up but will do that withing the next 24 hrs. What do I do with my list though. Can't seem to find the instruction post?
Do I just send them in order of preference?
edarsenal
08-02-17, 01:56 PM
Sorry for the delay. Been on holiday. I still have to write two up but will do that withing the next 24 hrs. What do I do with my list though. Can't seem to find the instruction post?
Do I just send them in order of preference?
that's it, exactly, Sarge. Make a list, #1 being the favorite and then PM your list to Miss Vicky
Jeff Costello
08-03-17, 06:43 PM
The Quiet Earth : First of all, it should be noted that Science Fiction belongs pretty much at the bottom of my film genres totem pole, so at the start there was a high probability I wouldn't like this one. Still I went into it open minded, but unfortunately ended up disliking it as I expected. The premise itself was interesting enough to keep this film relatively watchable for me, but everything else was just mediocre or not very good. As a matter of fact I did think the soundtrack was alright, but that's pretty much one of the rare aspects of this film I enjoyed. I guess my main complaint about "The Quiet Earth" was horrendous acting. The actors were quite dry and inexpressive and the dynamics between them was honestly laughably bad. Like I already said, the theme was interesting enough but I think it could've been explored much better. Ultimately I just found myself watching on the clock too much for a 90-minutes film.
The Broken Circle Breakdown : I kept reading how big of an emotional impact this film had on participants so I was pretty much intrigued at the start. Admittedly I didn't find myself as moved as others, but I still think there are plently of aspects worth praising . First of all, the main leads were great. They really did a commendable job with conveying their emotions and making their characters seem real. I was also a big fan of musical numbers. For some reason they had a stronger impact on me than the scenes in the hospital and all of the quarrels between Didier and Elsa. Just by observing their body language and face expressions during their performances, you could exactly know how they were feeling and to me this was worth more than all of the heavy melodrama that occured later. I thought that including flashbacks was a good idea in order to emphasize the change in their lives after the tragedy. I was also intrigued by an implented sub-theme which explored the relationship between theist and anti-theist. Thought that was very interesting and worthily of increasing my respect for the film even more. What I didn't appreciate was the fact that film did try too hard to express certain messages without any subtlety. I'm mainly reffering to the scene when Didier had a breakdown on the stage and went on a big tirade criticizing the government, George Bush, religion and whatever not. To me that scene was just redundant and overly imposing to the viewer. One may agree or not agree with the stated points, but the way this whole speech was presented with a sledge-hammer type of way just didn't sit well with me. Otherwise this a film which I did enjoy and appreciate, despite not being invested in it as others.
Do I have to watch Flesh+Blood ?
Miss Vicky
08-03-17, 07:15 PM
We're getting down to the wire here with just six days left to go.
I still need lists from
Jeff Costello
edarsenal
Blix the Goblin
neiba
Though it looks like Blix and neiba are probably out and their movies will be disqualified.
edarsenal
08-03-17, 07:42 PM
got copies of my remaining two movies; Marriage of Maria Braun and Forbidden Games from my library and will be watching them during this weekend to knock them out and send over my list.
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Manchester by the sea 2016
I had already seen this quite recently but rewatched it for the benefit of the HoF.
I didn't really get anything new from it, but it did reinforce the previous thoughts that I had about the film.
It is one of those films with which I struggle to articulate how I feel, and it often leads to misunderstanding so please bare with me.
The place to start is with me saying that I appreciate this piece of film immensely. I add my praise to all of the things that have been honoured by many others around the world.
It is one of those films that I watch and I appreciate it, but due to brutal story and quality of the acting I struggle to 'enjoy'.
The film is just quality throughout, from the cinematography, acting, writing and everything else that went into it.
Both times the film left me feeling emotionally battered. This is a reflection of the quality of the film.
I was always engaged but it felt like I was in a room with a Dementor, the longer the film went on, it just sucked the joy out of me. I realise that this is the intention but it is not a pleasant experience.
As I said at the beginning, I don't know how to articulate myself on this film further than that.
I appreciate and resent the film in equal measure.
4
edarsenal
08-04-17, 09:53 PM
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Forbidden Games aka Jeux Interdits
Firstly, I went into this with some very serious trepidation. Only because of the emotional kicks to the chest that have occurred with some truly excellent movies in this HoF and I sat, teeth clenched - *****, my entire body and my emotional compass wound up in knots for whatever battering this film would be causing me.
For you see, I stayed cleared of reviews and only knew that this was about death during war and two children dealing with it.
The opening confirmed it for me. People trying to escape Paris only to be strafed by German planes. Little Paulette's parents killed, along with her puppy (which was a little TOO d@mn realistic for me). From which, Paulette, after rescuing the lil puppy's corpse from a riverbed, meanders, shell shocked.
Oh, crap, this is gonna be a hard watch. . .
But something happens that I didn't quite expect.
Michel.
Understanding, considerate, helpful, strong-willed Michel.
He brings her to his home and from there, a kind of dark comedy evolves from their comprehension of, and thereby facing death. Creating a cemetery in the old mill and stealing crosses for the graves. Interspersed between the every day life of Michel's family.
It is this twisted, naive, and somehow, beautiful ideology on how to accept death and the outlandish lengths they go to, or rather, Michel is willing to go to, for Paulette, that eased the tension I started with and gave this heart of mine something whimsical and fantastical to appreciate. And appreciate, I did.
Even the abrupt ending, though quite sad, had it's own endearing beauty. Which, leaving an audience hanging is always a difficult endeavor seemed very apropos here.
Quite the intriguing film, Jeff Costello -- d@mn cool!
Jeff Costello
08-07-17, 08:26 AM
Alright, I finally got my hands on a regular version of "Dances With Wolves". It was bit of a trouble because everywhere I looked I could only find a 4-hour long extended version of the film, before ultimately obtaining the regular one from a town library.
I will very likely watch the film today and will therefore finish the tournament two days ahead of deadline.
edarsenal
08-07-17, 04:27 PM
and if things are quite at work tonight, I'll be watching Marriage of Maria Braun and putting in my votes as well
Jeff Costello
08-08-17, 11:59 AM
Dances With Wolves : There's not much I can say about it. Truly an astonishing film from start to finish. I was absorbed into the story right away, but my apprecation for the film growed proportionally with the film's progression. I loved every aspect of it : the colorful characters, cinematography, great soundtrack and a suprising emotional impact. My favorite scene and perhaps the emotional peak of the film was when Wind In His Hair shouted from the cliff reminding Lieutenant Dunbar that he is his friend. Truly an epic scene ! All in all, this is a great film as well as the wonderful exploration of humanity and cultural relativism. And after seeing it the second time, I can comfortably say that it genuinely deserved all of the received awards.
Well that does it. Tournament completed !
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Miss Vicky
08-08-17, 12:32 PM
We're really getting down to the wire now - the deadline is tomorrow. As long as ballots are turned in before I wake up and check the forum on Thursday, I'll count them.
The reveal will probably be sometime Friday, the 11th. Unless some miracle happens and neiba and Blix show up really soon with ballots in hand, The Hunt and Flesh + Blood will be disqualified, which means I'll have to recalculate the scores.
We're really getting down to the wire now - the deadline is tomorrow. As long as ballots are turned in before I wake up and check the forum on Thursday, I'll count them.
The reveal will probably be sometime Friday, the 11th. Unless some miracle happens and neiba and Blix show up really soon with ballots in hand, The Hunt and Flesh + Blood will be disqualified, which means I'll have to recalculate the scores.
Are they the only two who haven't finished?
Nestorio_Miklos
08-08-17, 12:37 PM
Can't wait till Friday! :) Do you know approximate time and zone when you start to reveal? Thanks :)
Miss Vicky
08-08-17, 12:48 PM
Are they the only two who haven't finished?
Still waiting on ballots from Jeff Costello and edarsenal.
Miss Vicky
08-08-17, 12:50 PM
Can't wait till Friday! :) Do you know approximate time and zone when you start to reveal? Thanks :)
I'm thinking probably around 1:00 p.m., Pacific Time.
I'm off that day so I could do earlier if that would work better for people, but can't do too much later as I have dinner plans.
rauldc14
08-08-17, 01:05 PM
I'll be in Vegas but I'll definitely check in at some point to see the results :up:
SilentVamp
08-08-17, 01:09 PM
I won't be around this weekend so I won't see anything until I get home on Monday, but that is OK.
Citizen Rules
08-08-17, 01:50 PM
Still waiting on ballots from Jeff Costello and edarsenal.Have you officially disqualified the movies from Blix and Neiba? Neither Jeff or Ed have watched those yet (at least it doesn't look like they have from the links on the second post), so DQing those movies might help Jeff and Ed out.
CosmicRunaway
08-08-17, 02:02 PM
I really liked The Hunt, so it likely being disqualified is rather disappointing, but completely understandable.
Jeff Costello
08-08-17, 02:10 PM
Have you officially disqualified the movies from Blix and Neiba? Neither Jeff or Ed have watched those yet (at least it doesn't look like they have from the links on the second post), so DQing those movies might help Jeff and Ed out.
I've already seen "The Hunt" twice, so that's not the problem. Don't really know what to do with Flesh+Blood though. I was told I could probably skip it, but I don't know if Blix will appear or not.
Citizen Rules
08-08-17, 02:13 PM
The Hunt is amazing, Mads does a great job in that film, and it's an intelligent script too.
Blix won't show, I'll eat my Orson tie:p, if Blix shows up and finishes before the deadline.
Jeff Costello
08-08-17, 02:26 PM
I will do my list now, but let me just ask a couple of questions before I start ...
Do we include our own nomination ? Can we place more films in the same position ? Is there an option to abstain from voting ? (I won't do it, but just curious)
Citizen Rules
08-08-17, 02:31 PM
Miss Vicky is the stand in host, so only she can answer for sure, but in the past it's always been like this:
Do we include our own nomination ? Yes
Can we place more films in the same position ? No
Is there an option to abstain from voting ? No
Jeff Costello
08-08-17, 02:33 PM
Alright thanks. Miss Vicky can expect my list in 15 minutes or so .
Is there an option to abstain from voting ? No
Well technically he could just not send a list but that would be pointless since he watched the films and his wouldn't count.
Why did you ask that out of interest Jeff?
edarsenal
08-08-17, 03:08 PM
My list WILL be in tonight. Along with a review of Marriage of Maria Braun. And my apologies to ALL for being the snail in this one.
edarsenal
08-08-17, 11:33 PM
Sent my List in
Miss Vicky
08-08-17, 11:39 PM
Except for our two AWOL members, neiba and Blix, I've received ballots from everybody.
edarsenal
08-09-17, 12:16 AM
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The Marriage of Maria Braun
They say, when writing a movie, you should connect the ending with the beginning. And with the explosion, we get this, and I found a rather strong significance to both of them. They married as the explosion started the movie and with the final explosion, they remained married in death.
With those two scenes we can easily see the pulse of this movie and the overall message that the director may be expressing.
What transpires in between is a far more intricate conversation with the director's inner thoughts as we see Maria take the reins and full control of her self and her life. For her and for Hermann. Only find a bitter truth in the final scene that would not be forgiven or permitted.
On a side note, reading everyone's reviews, I found Hermann's first arrival, standing in the doorway as Maria and Bill are preparing to have sex, exactly as Camo remarked. I had NO IDEA who the hell it was standing there and if Maria didn't announce him, I would never have known.
I've read a number of reactions to Maria's character and the consensus, that I fully agree with, being the excellent job that the actress did portraying her. For me, I found Maria an iconic, strong character. Similar to many gangster/mafia rise to fame and eventual downfall characters. In that, having the will to do what many wish to, but, for whatever reason, don't.
Perhaps that is why I chose, for an image, a familiar scene when such a character is near the end of their fight and the descent begins. Though, for her, it wasn't necessarily a descent, but, perhaps a tear in the armor that she wore against the emotions that would have broken so many of us, so much earlier. It was a human moment that we were allowed to see. For me, anyways.
A very fitting ending to my viewing of this HoF.
Miss Vicky
08-10-17, 11:34 AM
As expected, neither neiba nor Blix showed up so the final Hall of Fame consisted of 14 movies. I've got the results calculated and must say I'm a little surprised by the final rankings. I've been working on preparing my posts and everything should be good to go at 1:00 p.m. Pacific time tomorrow for the reveal.
My guess is Dances With Wolves won. It was doing well after six lists and alot of the members have really liked it since then. I also think Buffalo '66 will be near the bottom, that was also doing well after six but quite a few of the members since then never liked it.
Of course there was eight lists after that so anything could have happened.
edarsenal
08-10-17, 04:43 PM
yeah, Wolves should definitely be rather high in the list.
I would assume Hunt would have done rather well if it had remained.
Miss Vicky
08-10-17, 05:00 PM
The Hunt was indeed doing well before it was disqualified. It's a shame neiba didn't come through. I hope everything's okay with him.
I'll be posting how the ranks of the qualified films changed each time a new ballot was added, so you can see why I was surprised by the final outcome.
edarsenal
08-10-17, 06:07 PM
The Hunt was indeed doing well before it was disqualified. It's a shame neiba didn't come through. I hope everything's okay with him.
I'll be posting how the ranks of the qualified films changed each time a new ballot was added, so you can see why I was surprised by the final outcome.
I always got curious about how positions bounced around. THANKS Vicky!
I'll be out canoeing tomorrow afternoon so I'll be on near the evening to check it all out. Unless, of course, plans change.
Citizen Rules
08-10-17, 06:20 PM
...I'll be posting how the ranks of the qualified films changed each time a new ballot was added, so you can see why I was surprised by the final outcome.I like that! it sounds interesting, and I don't think anyone has done that before, so I'm looking forward to that.
Miss Vicky
08-10-17, 07:05 PM
I always got curious about how positions bounced around. THANKS Vicky!
I like that! it sounds interesting, and I don't think anyone has done that before, so I'm looking forward to that.
Camo had planned on posting them, so I'm just carrying on with his idea. :)
edarsenal
08-11-17, 01:12 PM
Oh, I know, Camo had a great idea with that and its very cool that you're running with it
Yeah thanks again for continuing it, think it's pretty interesting information.
CosmicRunaway
08-11-17, 03:22 PM
Since they've officially been disqualified, I assume it's safe to say how I originally voted for The Hunt and Flesh and Blood. I actually had The Hunt at #1, which is why I was sad it was no longer in the running. Flesh and Blood, while enjoyable, was down at #14 because there were just too many films I liked this time around for it to rank higher.
Citizen Rules
08-11-17, 03:40 PM
Following Cosmic's lead....I had The Hunt at #6...really a strong film, I expect it would have done very well.
I had Flesh and Blood at #13...because there were 3 other films I hated more! (sorry but it's true):p
Miss Vicky
08-11-17, 03:41 PM
I had The Hunt at 3 and Flesh + Blood at 5.
Many of the other movies were technically better than Flesh + Blood, but it had a trashy feel to it that appealed to me.
If it's not too much trouble Miss Vicky where did i have The Hunt and Flesh + Blood? I don't have my list anymore, only the revised one you sent me today.
Think i had The Hunt about 8th or 9th and Flesh + Blood bottom four but i don't remember.
Miss Vicky
08-11-17, 03:55 PM
If it's not too much trouble Miss Vicky where did i have The Hunt and Flesh + Blood? I
You had The Hunt at 11 and Flesh + Blood at 12.
I had a look at the spreadsheet I was using before they were disqualified. Three people sent ballots of 14, but with the other eleven votes The Hunt was in second place and Flesh + Blood was last.
The Hunt was a bit lower than i thought i had it. I thought it was very good but it's not a film i'd ever consider watching again as i think i got everything i can out of it and it's about a really gross subject, plus i wasn't a fan of the last 15 minutes or so.
Flesh + Blood was a good amount of fun but just not the type of film i tend to love.
I thought The Hunt would have won while i was hosting, that was before all of the reviews came in though and my guess is Dances With Wolves won.
Miss Vicky
08-11-17, 04:45 PM
About 15 minutes left until the reveal starts.
Miss Vicky
08-11-17, 04:58 PM
It's Time for the Reveal!!
Camo Citizen Rules
Clazor CosmicRunaway
cricket edarsenal
Jeff Costello Nestorio_Miklos
Pussy Galore rauldc14
Sarge ScarletLion
SilentVamp
So get your butts in here, people!
Also:
An Announcement:
Before Camo stepped down as host, he had promised to give everyone a breakdown of how the ranking of each film changed as each new ballot was added. I am going to do this as well, starting with the first two voters. I will also include screencaps of the spreadsheet I used to calculate the scores (the order of the films on the screencaps may not reflect broken ties, however).
I have sent each of you back a scored ballot (I've revised the ballots for those of you who turned in a list of 16 films) and have assigned everyone a voter number. That number will correspond to the progressive scores that I will post between the announcements of the final rankings, starting after the 13th place movie.
Miss Vicky
08-11-17, 05:01 PM
14th Place
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The Quiet Earth
(Goeff Murphy, 1985)
Nominated By: Clazor
Score: 58 points
Citizen Rules
08-11-17, 05:04 PM
Not surprised The Quiet Earth was last. I guess people see something in it, that I didn't....I had it at #12
CosmicRunaway
08-11-17, 05:05 PM
While some of the middle section was hit and miss, I really liked the beginning and ending of Quiet Earth, so I had it at number 10. I do kind of hate that the beautiful final scene was spoiled in the film's poster though.
Miss Vicky
08-11-17, 05:05 PM
I liked the concept, but not so much the execution. I had it at 9.
Citizen Rules
08-11-17, 05:05 PM
Yeah, that poster is the best part of the movie!
Miss Vicky
08-11-17, 05:06 PM
13th Place
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The Three Musketeers
(Richard Lester, 1973)
Nominated By: edarsenal
Score: 72 points
Miss Vicky
08-11-17, 05:06 PM
Initial Rankings
(Voters 1 and 2)
1. Manchester By the Sea
2. (Tied) Buffalo '66 and Dances With Wolves
3. Nightmare Alley
4. The Marriage of Maria Braun
5. The Broken Circle Breakdown
6. The Great Dictator
7. Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter... and Spring
8. Wings of Desire
9. Forbidden Games
10. Captain Fantastic
11. The Quiet Earth
12. (Tied) Dead Poets Society and The Three Musketeers
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CosmicRunaway
08-11-17, 05:08 PM
I rather enjoyed The Three Musketeers, even if I prefer a different adaptation, but as I already mentioned, I rather liked most of the films in this HoF. The Three Musketeers ended up at #12, but it switched places with The Quiet Earth (and the film in between these two on my list) quite a bit.
Citizen Rules
08-11-17, 05:09 PM
(Voters 1 and 2) would that be the first two people to send in a list? And is it cool if we disclose what our voter number is?
Oh...interesting stats BTW, thanks for taking the time on that.
Miss Vicky
08-11-17, 05:11 PM
Yes, the voter numbers are in order of ballot submission.
You can reveal what number you are or keep it to yourself. Your choice.
I was voter #2.
I didn't care for The Three Musketeers. I had it at 12.
Citizen Rules
08-11-17, 05:11 PM
I have The Three Musketeers in the middle of my list. It's perfectly done, for what it was trying to do. I didn't see any missteps, so kudos to the director and I did enjoy it.
I think it placed low overall, as it's style of broad comedy didn't resonate well with most members. Hell comedies don't do well in Hofs usually.
CosmicRunaway
08-11-17, 05:14 PM
Hell comedies don't do well in Hofs usually.
I think the problem with comedies is that they're so subjective, and watching a comedy you personally find unfunny is a very unpleasant experience.
Miss Vicky
08-11-17, 05:14 PM
12th Place
http://www.angelfire.com/music6/walteregan/13thHOF/13th_spring.jpg
Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter... and Spring
(Kim Ki-Duk, 2003)
Nominated By: Nestorio_Miklos
Score: 76 points
Miss Vicky
08-11-17, 05:14 PM
Progressive Rankings
(Voter #3 added)
1. Dances With Wolves
2. Buffalo '66
3. Manchester By the Sea
4. The Great Dictator
5. Nightmare Alley
6. The Marriage of Maria Braun
7. Forbidden Games
8. The Broken Circle Breakdown
9. Wings of Desire
10. Captain Fantastic
11. The Three Musketeers
12. Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter... and Spring
13. The Quiet Earth
14. Dead Poets Society
http://www.angelfire.com/music6/walteregan/13thHOF/13th_HOF_03.jpg
Miss Vicky
08-11-17, 05:15 PM
I think everyone knows what I thought of this one and where it placed on my ballot.
Citizen Rules
08-11-17, 05:15 PM
I think the problem with comedies is that they're so subjective, and watching a comedy you personally find unfunny is a very unpleasant experience. I think people just don't like to laugh:p
Just kidding, yeah you're right, comedy movies really vary. Some drive me crazy. Probably a drama with light comedy would work best.
You deliberately messed my mention up by adding ';' at the end. Okay then:
https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/ed7f0558-5679-427b-9058-e86ff7eb9d68
Actually! I have mentions turned off. Also please watch that video that makes the joke pretty great but i couldn't find it on youtube :(
The Three Musketeers would have been my #1 or 2. If The Four Musketeers was included then #1.
Spring, Summer should have been #2 by my calculations.
Citizen Rules
08-11-17, 05:16 PM
I'm voter #3 and I sank: Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter... and Spring...it was at the bottom of my list.
CosmicRunaway
08-11-17, 05:17 PM
Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter...and Spring was a bit uneven for me, but I think the things it did well made up for many of its shortcomings. I thoroughly enjoyed that Fall segment. It was number 9 on my list.
Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter...and Spring was a bit uneven for me, but I think the things it did well made up for many of its shortcomings. I thoroughly enjoyed that Fall segment. It was number 9 on my list.
Really sad that you had it like fourth highest.
Great film.
Miss Vicky
08-11-17, 05:20 PM
11th Place
http://www.angelfire.com/music6/walteregan/13thHOF/13th_forbidden.jpg
Forbidden Games
(Rene Clement, 1952)
Nominated By: Jeff Costello
Score: 94 points
Miss Vicky
08-11-17, 05:20 PM
Progressive Rankings
(Voter #4 added)
1. Manchester By the Sea
2. Buffalo '66
3. Dances With Wolves
4. Nightmare Alley
5. Forbidden Games
6. The Great Dictator
7. Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter... and Spring
8. The Marriage of Maria Braun
9. The Broken Circle Breakdown
10. Wings of Desire
11. Captain Fantastic
12. The Quiet Earth
13. The Three Musketeers
14. Dead Poets Society
http://www.angelfire.com/music6/walteregan/13thHOF/13th_HOF_04.jpg
Miss Vicky
08-11-17, 05:21 PM
I really wanted to like this one but it just didn't work for me. I had it at 11.
CosmicRunaway
08-11-17, 05:22 PM
Forbidden Games was doing well after voter 4. I'm voter 5, so I imagine having that film at the bottom of my list may have impacted the overall rating. I just could not get into it at all.
Citizen Rules
08-11-17, 05:22 PM
I had Forbidden Games at #7, but the film hasn't stayed with me. I seen that poster up there and had to think a bit about what movie it was, ha.
Miss Vicky
08-11-17, 05:25 PM
10th Place
http://www.angelfire.com/music6/walteregan/13thHOF/13th_mariabraun.jpg
The Marriage of Maria Braun
(Rainer Werner Fassbinder, 1979)
Nominated By: cricket
Score: 95 points
Miss Vicky
08-11-17, 05:25 PM
Progressive Rankings
(Voter #5 added)
1. Dances With Wolves
2. Manchester By the Sea
3. Buffalo '66
4. The Great Dictator
5. The Broken Circle Breakdown
6. Nightmare Alley
7. The Marriage of Maria Braun
8. Wings of Desire
9. Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter... and Spring
10. Captain Fantastic
11. Forbidden Games
12. The Quiet Earth
13. The Three Musketeers
14. Dead Poets Society
http://www.angelfire.com/music6/walteregan/13thHOF/13th_HOF_05.jpg
Miss Vicky
08-11-17, 05:26 PM
This one was pretty good. I had it at 5.
cricket
08-11-17, 05:28 PM
I'm on the road so I can't read but I can see the pictures. Looking good so far.
CosmicRunaway
08-11-17, 05:28 PM
Maria Braun was #6 on my list. I don't really have any more to say about it that I haven't already said in the thread though.
Jeff Costello
08-11-17, 05:29 PM
Looks like a neck to neck battle between "Dances With Wolves" and " Manchester By The Sea" . Commendable presentation by the way.
Miss Vicky
08-11-17, 05:30 PM
9th Place
http://www.angelfire.com/music6/walteregan/13thHOF/13th_wings.jpg
Wings of Desire
(Wim Wenders, 1987)
Nominated By: CosmicRunaway
Score: 95 points
Miss Vicky
08-11-17, 05:31 PM
Progressive Rankings
(Voter #6 added)
1. Manchester By the Sea
2. Dances With Wolves
3. Buffalo '66
4. The Great Dictator
5. The Broken Circle Breakdown
6. Nightmare Alley
7. The Marriage of Maria Braun
8. Captain Fantastic
9. Wings of Desire
10. Forbidden Games
11. Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter... and Spring
12. The Quiet Earth
13. Dead Poets Society
14. The Three Musketeers
http://www.angelfire.com/music6/walteregan/13thHOF/13th_HOF_06.jpg
Citizen Rules
08-11-17, 05:31 PM
The Marriage of Maria Braun...was a solid nom. I didn't love it but was glad to watch it. I had it at #10, and it was that low because I hated the ending.
Miss Vicky
08-11-17, 05:32 PM
Although beautiful and well made, Wings of Desire really didn't work for me. I had it at 13.
CosmicRunaway
08-11-17, 05:33 PM
I'm honestly surprised that Wings of Desire did better (if only slightly haha) than The Marriage of Maria Braun. On my final ballot my nomination ended up at 5, but when I was still settling on an order, it was more in the 8-11 zone. The middle of my list switched around a lot. I ended up ranking it higher because the cinematography really was beautiful, and I am just a sucker for pretty images haha.
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