Survivor 4: LATVERIA

[Sexy Celebrity]

No mistake. This is a decision of who did the best overall in the game. I felt Dan deserved it over Wolf. Sorry Wolf.

But what if he wins? This may be your only chance in a Survivor final two.

[Rhys]

But what if he wins? This may be your only chance in a Survivor final two.



I feel that Dan is my real challenge. If I beat him, then I have really won.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Daniel M, if you had just won the last challenge, who would you HONESTLY have taken? Rhys or Wolfsbane?

[Daniel M]

And Daniel M, why are you better than Rhys, a man who NEVER got eliminated, won the final contest, won several contests, etc.?

He never got eliminated, because I protected him. Even though we were on different tribes at the start of the game, I started an "informal agreement", shall we say, with Rhys right at the start. We agreed to give each other the heads up and help out if we could. When we tried to do that move to get rid of TUS, we had to use a couple of people from the other tribe to try and give us numbers. Rhys went along with my plan and didn't betray me like a couple of others, and ever since then he has done exactly what I've asked of him without question or betrayal. Some players like Raul and Camo were a bit paranoid, but for some crazy reason Rhys always trusted me, especially as I got more powerful towards the end of the game :p I promised Rhys I would get him as far as possible, and I did.

Here are my questions for both of you:
What was your biggest challenge in the game?

The simplest answer to this is probably getting people to trust me, or finding out who I could trust. I knew at the start who I could, but even when I felt safe near the end of the game, I always accounted for all possibilities, had backup plans etc. I'd rather tell people to vote for person-3 if I want person-2 out, so that they'd throw their vote and not risk my plan leaking.

Getting people to trust me was another one, above I mentioned Camo and Raul's constant paranoia, I think there was a lot of paranoia because people knew if they made the wrong move they would be got rid of my bigger numbers. I know people like CiCi and Nope wanted rid of TUS but were waiting for the right time. When I got rid of TUS and Nope it was all about timing, making sure I and people I had made promises to were safe at those times.


What was your biggest move?

(Gonna speak about you in the third person, for others)

Maybe getting rid of Nope. I think if I hadn't returned, he would have at least made the final three. He had good plans. I got rid of him quietly and effectively, I actually kind of did a trade, notifying TUS that Nope planned to get rid of him, and TUS told me that he had the immunity idol. Then I used Nope to get rid of TUS, then with Nope feeling like he was working with me, I got others I trusted to vote him off with me.

What was your biggest mistake?

Trying to get rid of TUS at the beginning, I knew if that failed he would get rid of me soon after. Shouldn't have let Raul include Hit Girl in our conversations, I had no reason to trust HG and I'm not sure why Raul did at that point.

Then trusting Camo with my plan, I should have told him him about voting, but told him the wrong person, not risk my plan leaking out. But If I hadn't have gone out, the game would have ended up totally differently, so I'm kind of glad I did.

If you choose anyone in the game to have won (besides you) who would it be?

Rhys or Wolfsbane. It's obvious why with Rhys, for what I've said above, but Wolfsbane played a really good game and of course brought me back, I owe him for that, I'm kind of relieved I didn't win the final challenge and have to chose between those two.

[Sexy Celebrity]

He never got eliminated, because I protected him.

But you got eliminated first. Despite the fact that you got back in the game -- THANKS to Wolfsbane -- you still got eliminated. There's no telling what would have happened to Rhys after that, if he would still be here right now.

But you are ONLY here because Wolfsbane won a power and decided to use it and bring you back. Well, okay -- maybe not just ONLY -- but if that didn't happen, YOU WOULD NOT BE HERE RIGHT NOW.

[Camo]

I just sent a PM to all the other jury members. Except for Rauld, Nope, and Sexy of course.

And me :p

[TONGO]

And me :p

Oh hell! You want the PM or you want to ask them here?

[Sexy Celebrity]

All I know is -- if I had been playing this game -- and I was Rhys and I never ever got eliminated -- and Daniel M, who has been eliminated, BEAT ME and won the game...........

I'd be PISSED.

[Nope1172]

Then I used Nope to get rid of TUS.

I wouldn't say you used me. I had talked to you about getting TUS out since you were eliminated, so I would't say you used or manipulated me to do anything.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Rhys, maybe you made a smart move by bringing along Daniel M.

Do you think you made a smart move? For your own game.

[Camo]

Oh hell! You want the PM or you want to ask them here?

Nah, i'm going to bed anyway. I'll ask some tomorrow.

[CiCi]

This is tough, I like the two of them. Yet I can't think of a question to help determine who I want to vote for :lol:

[Camo]

Wait when are the jury votes supposed to be in?

[Daniel M]

And this is a question for Daniel:
How did you convince Wolf to bring you back into the game?

This is the question I've been most looking forward to addressing. Lets call this post:

What happened with Wolfsbane

So, I wanted back in, and I started sending TUS PMs and bombarding him with messages in here. I told him I could give him top secret information that could help him, as long as he could get me back in.

He seem interested, but I wasn't exactly sure about his relationship with Wolfsbane, he told me I'd have to convince him too. But I think TUS gave me a very good word.

What did I give TUS: The post comments you gave me, Nope, about how I shouldn't worry, as your planning to get rid of him soon. And a PM from Sexy who received similar comments from CiCi about how his whole team, even his closest allies planned to turn on him soon. And I promised to vote which ever way he wanted.

What did I give Wolfsbane: The guarantee of voting him whichever way I wanted, and a promise to get him to the final 2 if I could.

The first couple of votes, Wolfsbane and TUS wanted the same thing, the same people gone, we did this. We got rid of CiCi and someone else, I can't remember the order.

But then Wolf PMed me saying he wanted TUS gone eventually too, this surprised me. He said he wanted to get rid of him before the final four. But Wolf also wanted all of my ex alliance, like Camo, Raul, Rhys, all gone too. I sensed this, and he pretty much made it clear too. So I had to take a few things in to my own hands, and when the numbers were right and Camo, Nope etc. approached me about getting rid of TUS, I finally did it. I reassured Wolf that although I didn't follow his instructions then, I was still going to fulfill my promise to help him.

Then I told him off my plan to get rid of Nope, that this would be our best chance as he wont use his immunity. I only told one over person about this, Rhys, who followed my instructions. Wolf told HG and HA to vote off Camo, Camo voted off one of them.

Then we got rid of HG and HA.

Then I had to get rid of Camo, as much as he's more a friend in general on these forums than Wolf, I had my promise to him. This was tough to do.

By the time Nope came back in I won three challenges in a row, picked up two hypnotises and also a hidden immunity idol. I was always going to get rid of whoever came back, provided they didn't win immunity, so I was begging for a Rhys or Wolf win here, as I was busy at the time.

Then the final three. I wish the vote could be between all three of us. I honestly don't know who I would have brought with me. I feel like I owe Wolf a lot for bringing me back, and did make a written promise for final two, but then again I had been promising to help Rhys to get him as far as I can since the beginning of the game, so betraying him would be just as bad. Fortunately Rhys won the challenge, so saved me an extremely tough decision.

[Rhys]

Rhys, maybe you made a smart move by bringing along Daniel M.

Do you think you made a smart move? For your own game.



I'm not sure.
I feel like I would have a better chance again Wolf over Dan but maybe if I chose Wolf I would be looked down upon.


Plus I have been genuine this whole game. Dan HAS helped me. That would have been back-stabbing.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Daniel M, if you're so masterful at this game -- why did you keep Rhys and Wolfsbane around to the end of the game?

Why didn't you keep Nope1172? He's been eliminated. He went to the Deadpool. He missed several rounds of game play.

I think he could have been a lot easier to beat than Rhys. So why didn't you keep Nope1172 around? Why is he not there with you in the Final Two instead of Rhys?

[TONGO]

Wait when are the jury votes supposed to be in?

Im thinking

9am EST Wednesday 3/16/16 voting deadline

[Sexy Celebrity]

Daniel M, you're writing way too much to read. I like how Rhys is making his responses short and sweet.

[Camo]

Cool. I'm going to bed then, i'll ask you some questions tomorrow if you are on.

[Daniel M]

I wouldn't say you used me. I had talked to you about getting TUS out since you were eliminated, so I would't say you used or manipulated me to do anything.

I'm using the term loosely. I explain more in my last post. I would have agreed with your plan earlier, but wanted to get a guaruntee on numbers.

Also, Raul was absolutely outraged at me because he thought I was working with TUS, and was going against him and my old alliance. He PMed me saying it was madness, and didn't listen to my plan and went ahead and voted his own way.

The truth was I was never with TUS, when I made the deal with Wolfsbane he told me he wanted him gone before the final four, it was just about timing, numbers, protecting myself and others. I couldn't risk trying to get rid of him, the plan leaking, him not going, and then going back out again.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Daniel M, you really like Rhys and you even think he should deserve to win if it's not you.

WHY should Rhys win?

[Daniel M]

Daniel M, if you're so masterful at this game -- why did you keep Rhys and Wolfsbane around to the end of the game?

Why didn't you keep Nope1172? He's been eliminated. He went to the Deadpool. He missed several rounds of game play.

I think he could have been a lot easier to beat than Rhys. So why didn't you keep Nope1172 around? Why is he not there with you in the Final Two instead of Rhys?

Loyalty. As much as I'm a strategically player, I also have a heart, I find it difficult to eliminate players that I feel I'm friends with. I'd consider Rhys a great friend, we have each other on Facebook, and owed Wolf a lot as he brought me back in.

You should know SC, remember an old Survivor where despite everyone turning against you I tried my hardest to protect you and keep my promise. I always try to be loyal to people when I can.

Also, I kept Rhys and Wolf as I hoped that if won of them won the last challenge, they would both feel inclined to bring me to the final with them. It paid off.

[Sexy Celebrity]

You should know SC, remember an old Survivor where despite everyone turning against you I tried my hardest to protect you and keep my promise. I always try to be loyal to people when I can.

Loyalty also cost you the game in Survivor 2.

Yes, you did help me and I thank you for that. I didn't win, either.

But you went out of that game before me and quite frankly, I didn't care much about that.

Whatever works for me.

I wish you had stayed, but, if you've gotta go, you've gotta go. Better you than me.

[Rhys]

Im thinking

9am EST Wednesday 3/16/16 voting deadline


AM or PM?

[CiCi]

Daniel's revelations are more dramatic than an episode of Dance Moms :lol:

[Daniel M]

Daniel M, you're writing way too much to read. I like how Rhys is making his responses short and sweet.

It's a story worth telling properly.

A lot of times people thought I was going against them. But it wasn't the case. I was always loyal and honest when I could be. I did a lot to protect Wolf and get him as far as possible. I don't think anyway every really targeted or realised we worked together a lot closer than they thought.

Daniel M, you really like Rhys and you even think he should deserve to win if it's not you.

WHY should Rhys win?

Because he's a nice guy, as far as I'm aware he hasn't lied to anyone throughout the game. He's been loyal, even though I'm probably his only "alliance". He's won a few challenges, he did those funny drunk posts.

I consider Rhys a worthy opponent.

I think it's fitting the game ends with more a "duel", where I have to try hard and earn my place to win, rather than a given.

I also think the fact that me and Rhys are friends hopefully mean the votes are honest, and not just strategic based on the original tribes. I don't want TUS, Hit Girl, Half Angel, Nope and Camo to vote against me because I got rid of them or whatever, I want them to vote for who they think won. By the way, I think Rhys voted for the same person as me every time.

[Daniel M]

Loyalty also cost you the game in Survivor 2.

Yes, you did help me and I thank you for that. I didn't win, either.

But you went out of that game before me and quite frankly, I didn't care much about that.

That's fair enough. Everyone's diffierent. Early on in the game I'm more loyal to build trust, and get votes. But the further you go, the further you like people and want to help them too.

Maybe youre more ruthless than me.

I wish you had stayed, but, if you've gotta go, you've gotta go. Better you than me.

That's true. I felt terrible voting off Raul and Camo, but if I didn't, I would have been gone next, for betraying others.

[Sexy Celebrity]

TONGO, can TheUsualSuspect be on the Jury or is he over? He might not want to - I'm just asking in case he wants to be.

[CiCi]

This is like Game of Thrones, and to be honest, someone should write a book about this whole game, it'd be a bestseller in minutes.

[Rhys]

This is like Game of Thrones, and to be honest, someone should write a book about this whole game, it'd be a bestseller in minutes.



I'd buy it.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I'm not sure who to vote for.

[CiCi]

This is like Game of Thrones, and to be honest, someone should write a book about this whole game, it'd be a bestseller in minutes.



I'd buy it.
We just need to get Oprah to endorse it.

[Daniel M]

I'm not sure who to vote for.

If you vote for me, you will be part of the reason I won.

I used a PM you sent me, about CiCi and his team betraying TUS, to get back into the game and gain trust.

Without that I might not be here now.

How does that make you feel?

[TONGO]

TONGO, can TheUsualSuspect be on the Jury or is he over? He might not want to - I'm just asking in case he wants to be.

I havent spoke with TUS at all.

If he wished to ask them questions and vote, its ok with me.

[TONGO]

This is like Game of Thrones, and to be honest, someone should write a book about this whole game, it'd be a bestseller in minutes.

Thats the best compliment Ive ever gotten on my game, thanks CiCi :)

[Sexy Celebrity]

If you vote for me, you will be part of the reason I won.

I used a PM you sent me, about CiCi and his team betraying TUS, to get back into the game and gain trust.

Without that I might not be here now.

How does that make you feel?

It makes me feel like I SHOULD BE THE ONE THERE WINNING THIS GAME INSTEAD OF YOU!

[Rhys]

I'm not sure who to vote for.



The fact that you're struggling at least gives me some hope. Dan has played a great game. I am not going to lie.

[Sexy Celebrity]

The fact that you're struggling at least gives me some hope. Dan has played a great game. I am not going to lie.

Do you want to win? My problem with you is I almost feel like you DON'T want to win.

[Daniel M]

It makes me feel like I SHOULD BE THE ONE THERE WINNING THIS GAME INSTEAD OF YOU!


Shouldn't have quit then :p

[TONGO]

Ill be back

[Rhys]

Do you want to win? My problem with you is I almost feel like you DON'T want to win.



I want to win.
But if I do, I want to know I deserved it in the eyes of the jury.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Shouldn't have quit then :p

You know.... you were with me during that time when things got all screwy and I got pissed at TONGO because I thought he ruined my big move.... and you told me to stay in the game, but I wouldn't.

I am surprised .... and delighted... to see that you got this far.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I want to win.
But if I do, I want to know I deserved it in the eyes of the jury.

If you want to win, then you need to stay it in big letters and multiple colors, Sexy Celebrity style.

[Rhys]

If you want to win, then you need to stay it in big letters and multiple colors, Sexy Celebrity style.



I WANT TO WIN!!


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[Daniel M]

If you want to win, then you need to stay it in big letters and multiple colors, Sexy Celebrity style.

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[Sexy Celebrity]

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[Sexy Celebrity]

How can I vote for Daniel M when he doesn't even use a Jake Gyllenhaal avatar like Rhys?

[Sexy Celebrity]

Uh oh. I see Wolfsbane online.

[Wolfsbane]

First, I want to apologize to everyone for making them wait. Had troubles with the internet and had no ways of communication to let anyone know. I literally just got it working (waited a few hours for a guy to come in) and now I'm here, on the damn jury.

Oh well, Im not so sure I would have won that one anyway.

SC - As for my needing to leave, it was to go pick up my wife from work. I came back on as soon as I could, but the duel was over.

For the last time, I'm not TUS. I played my own game. I knew he was a good player. He manipulates people in an interesting way, by not lying. I figured I'd hitch my wagon to him, use him to get myself far and then cut him when I needed to. With him in the game, there was always a bigger target than me. TUS pushed for Daniel to come back in because he wanted or needed that extra vote. I was a bit on the fence until Dan promised a final 2 with me. When I told Dan that I wanted TUS gone, it seemed to happen sooner than I would have liked. Only because I knew I could have TUS's vote, I did not have Camo's, Nope's or Rhys'.

To be honest though, these two guys deserve to be here.

Rhys - for playing a great game, staying under the radar enough to not get noticed and wining the right challenges to keep him in.

Dan - He went for TUS, he lost, TUS got him out. But then he managed to convince the man who took him out to rally him back in. I had that power, so it was ultimately up to me. I feel like I made the right choice, it got me to where I am. Maybe TUS would have eliminated me first, who knows. But Dan managed to talk his way back into the game...not fight his way back...but talk his way back. That is impressive.


Dan - Your biggest challenge in the game? Your biggest enemy in the game?

Rhys - Any regrets? (Don't say no because then you might not be here, that's a BS response)

Also, for both of you.

If you could RE-ORDER the elimination list right now, what would you make it look like.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Yet another person who I'm surprised has a wife......

Does she know about Movie Forums at least?

[Sexy Celebrity]

I actually really wanted Wolfsbane, of all people, to win this. I'm so disappointed tonight.

[Rhys]

Rhys - Any regrets? (Don't say no because then you might not be here, that's a BS response)





I regret coming into this game with no plan. I limbo'ed the first few vote outs. I was lucky. It was then I devised my own plan.


I regret trying to join a group alliance right from the start - I made sure to get out of this.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Maybe I should run that duel I wanted to throw.

Whoever wins the duel gets my vote.

We could do it in the Ole MoFo Saloon.

[Wolfsbane]

Yet another person who I'm surprised has a wife......

Does she know about Movie Forums at least?

I don't think she cares.


Another question for Dan - Did you throw the final duel on purpose so you wouldn't have to choose, knowing you were good on both sides?

[TONGO]

A general announcement that may not be needed. If there is somehow a tie with the 13 jurors, maybe one will abstain or get banned, then Doctor TONGO will return, and there will be a 6th and last Duel.
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That is all.

[Sexy Celebrity]

You stole my Duel idea! I better be hosting that duel if it happens.

[Daniel M]

First, I want to apologize to everyone for making them wait. Had troubles with the internet and had no ways of communication to let anyone know. I literally just got it working (waited a few hours for a guy to come in) and now I'm here, on the damn jury.

Oh well, Im not so sure I would have won that one anyway.

SC - As for my needing to leave, it was to go pick up my wife from work. I came back on as soon as I could, but the duel was over.

For the last time, I'm not TUS. I played my own game. I knew he was a good player. He manipulates people in an interesting way, by not lying. I figured I'd hitch my wagon to him, use him to get myself far and then cut him when I needed to. With him in the game, there was always a bigger target than me. TUS pushed for Daniel to come back in because he wanted or needed that extra vote. I was a bit on the fence until Dan promised a final 2 with me. When I told Dan that I wanted TUS gone, it seemed to happen sooner than I would have liked. Only because I knew I could have TUS's vote, I did not have Camo's, Nope's or Rhys'.

To be honest though, these two guys deserve to be here.

Rhys - for playing a great game, staying under the radar enough to not get noticed and wining the right challenges to keep him in.

Dan - He went for TUS, he lost, TUS got him out. But then he managed to convince the man who took him out to rally him back in. I had that power, so it was ultimately up to me. I feel like I made the right choice, it got me to where I am. Maybe TUS would have eliminated me first, who knows. But Dan managed to talk his way back into the game...not fight his way back...but talk his way back. That is impressive.


Dan - Your biggest challenge in the game? Your biggest enemy in the game?

Rhys - Any regrets? (Don't say no because then you might not be here, that's a BS response)

Also, for both of you.

If you could RE-ORDER the elimination list right now, what would you make it look like.

Cheers Wolf, you're a humble, honest guy. I kind of wish I was in an alliance with you from the beginning to. You play the quiet but deadly type well, playing it safe, making sure you were protected, but thinking ahead and making important moves.

Could I ask you now, we're you involved in any of CiCi or Nope's original plans to other throw TUS? Did your plans involve others, or were you going to wait until further on and then make a move, to avoid him finding out. If it's the latter then it certainly worked.

Yeah, sorry for rushing things through with getting rid of TUS, but I had to feel safe to in case you were double crossing me. I made sure I held up my end of the deal by getting rid of Nope and protecting you, quite a few times, the other guys wanted you to go next, but I always persuaded them not to.

One of the thing that makes me feel a bit better is how fast Rhys got the challenge, I don't think anyone was capable of beating that. Like I said, I'm sorry we can't all be in the final three.

Thanks for your kind words about me.

My biggest challenge?

The simplest answer to this is probably getting people to trust me, or finding out who I could trust. I knew at the start who I could, but even when I felt safe near the end of the game, I always accounted for all possibilities, had backup plans etc. I'd rather tell people to vote for person-3 if I want person-2 out, so that they'd throw their vote and not risk my plan leaking.

Getting people to trust me was another one, above I mentioned Camo and Raul's constant paranoia, I think there was a lot of paranoia because people knew if they made the wrong move they would be got rid of my bigger numbers. I know people like CiCi and Nope wanted rid of TUS but were waiting for the right time. When I got rid of TUS and Nope it was all about timing, making sure I and people I had made promises to were safe at those times.

Biggest enemy? Well I guess it has to be TUS doesn't it. He got rid of me after I failed to get him out and I don't blame him. When I got back in I genuinely felt sorry for getting rid of him, betraying him, I knew I shouldn't have felt so bad, because it's the game, but he's a nice guy I think really and I hope people don't carry on any game vendettas in to other areas. TUS is one of the very best MoFos on here, I'm sure we'll all agree there.

I enjoyed my early game antics with CiCi, I felt that he used the character aspect really well, I enjoyed our banter at times, I won't say it's a shame we were on opposite teams because I thought Brent versus Bluth worked well, but it's a shame that strategically I had to get rid of him so early, and that he wasn't as involved afterwards. I hope he joins the next game, where I'm sure he'll be one of the strongest players.

If I could re-order the elimination list, well in order of how much I wanted them to win, from least to most, approximately:

TUS (Strongest player, and got rid of me, nothing personal)
Hit Girl (Never spoke to them in game, but seemed to get lively towards end, would like to know more in general)
Half Angel (Similar, but seemed like a really nice person, should post on MoFo more)
CiCi (The most entertaining player that I never had an alliance with)
Nope (Should have teamed with him earlier, by the time we worked together, I had to get him out)
The Sci-Fi Slob (original alliance, didn't do much, but voted every way I asked)
Gatsby (see above, would be interesting to see how far he would have got if he didn't target TUS)
Sean (original alliance, always did what I asked, all round nice guy)
Raul (same as Sean, interchangeable in ranking, shame I couldn't fully explain the predicament I was in to him and help him get further)
Camo (controverial considering he knocked me out, but Camo's a great guy and I wish we were in an alliance from the start, I think he wishes it too ;) )

Then of course ...

Wolfsbane
Rhys

You two are pretty much interchangeable, and I think I've said loads about you two already.

Any more questions, asked ahead :)

[TONGO]

You stole my Duel idea! I better be hosting that duel if it happens.

There are never any ties or revotes in Survivor: LATVERIA. Id host it Sexy, but if you want me to use your clue I might. This is all very doubtful to happen though.

[Sexy Celebrity]

You could use my clue/movie and host it.

[Wolfsbane]

Could I ask you now, we're you involved in any of CiCi or Nope's original plans to other throw TUS? Did your plans involve others, or were you going to wait until further on and then make a move, to avoid him finding out. If it's the latter then it certainly worked.


I was not, which makes it kind of interesting. I wanted TUS in the game the longest because EVERYONE was targeting him. It was the best cover anyone could have asked for.

I asked you a second question about throwing the last duel, knowing you were safe on both sides. :p

[Wolfsbane]

Tongo- I got a question for you.

If you could rank the top 5 players in this season, who would be the top and why?

[Sexy Celebrity]

So Daniel M -- give me a short answer -- are you more responsible for Suspect's elimination than Rhys?

[TONGO]

Tongo- I got a question for you.

If you could rank the top 5 players in this season, who would be the top and why?

I dont think I should have any input here till after the winners revealed. If Rhys & Dan are ok with it though, ill answer any questions.

[Wolfsbane]

SC - You say you wanted me to win this. I doubt that was your feeling the whole time. I feel like you change who you want to win on the daily. So if you had to choose one person, throughout the entire game you were rooting for, who would it be?

[TONGO]

Ha ha ha ha ha!!! This has become a sit around the campfire tell-all!! :laugh:

[Daniel M]

I was not, which makes it kind of interesting. I wanted TUS in the game the longest because EVERYONE was targeting him. It was the best cover anyone could have asked for.

I asked you a second question about throwing the last duel, knowing you were safe on both sides. :p

Nope, I tried to play it if you look back in the thread.

So a question to you, would you have brought me to the final two?

So Daniel M -- give me a short answer -- are you more responsible for Suspect's elimination than Rhys?

Yes. Rhys tried to vote out TUS every time that Raul, Nope, Camo did. They kept trying. It wasn't until I finally agreed to vote him out that they were successful.

I dont think I should have any input here till after the winners revealed. If Rhys & Dan are ok with it though, ill answer any questions.

I'm not sure, maybe asking personal questions is a bit unfair. But I think it would be interesting to hear your answers to some of them, like more general to the nature of the game, like who did you think would win near the start, biggest shock for you etc.

[Wolfsbane]

So a question to you, would you have brought me to the final two?


I'm not sure. I'm leaning towards a yes. Despite me saying that Rhys or I should be the winners for not being eliminated. :p

[Nope1172]

Just got back from Better Call Saul, I got catching up to do

[rauldc14]

I'm still not convinced I would have made it much further had I sticked to the plan. If I stayed quiet I could have at minimum bought 2 more tribal councils.

[Rhys]

I'm back. It's 3am but keep asking me questions until I see I need to sleep. I'm in at 11am but I can function on little sleep.

[Daniel M]

I'm not sure. I'm leaning towards a yes. Despite me saying that Rhys or I should be the winners for not being eliminated. :p

How would you have felt if I won the challenge and decided to get rid of you?

[rauldc14]

I'm back. It's 3am but keep asking me questions until I see I need to sleep. I'm in at 11am but I can function on little sleep.

Do you think you would have got to the final 2 if Daniel didn't come back in the game? If he didn't, who would be final 2?

[Rhys]

Although it is a fairly prolific guest speaker and I want to be lively enough to ask questions so I can try link him if at all possible.

[Rhys]

I'm back. It's 3am but keep asking me questions until I see I need to sleep. I'm in at 11am but I can function on little sleep.

Do you think you would have got to the final 2 if Daniel didn't come back in the game? If he didn't, who would be final 2?


Daniel did a lot to get me where I am but I was virtually never targeted. Did I ever get a singlen vote?

I think I still had a good chance to get to the top two if Daniel was not in the game but I actually wouldn't know who with. Seeing as Dan helped Wolf a lot maybe with Nope? But I honestly don't know. I could be completely wrong. My tactic was the quiet game and it seems to have payed off.

[Sexy Celebrity]

SC - You say you wanted me to win this. I doubt that was your feeling the whole time. I feel like you change who you want to win on the daily. So if you had to choose one person, throughout the entire game you were rooting for, who would it be?

I do change my feeling on who should win a lot. I never really consistently kept rooting for the same person. A large part of that was simply because I was no longer in the game.

One person I actually did root for maybe more than the others during the game.... and this may surprise you all.... TheUsualSuspect.

After I quit, I was hoping to see him win this thing again. I thought it would be very badass if he could. When I was goofing around in the thread before and being all like, "You ALL want Suspect to win. It's your deepest desire. Admit it. Admit you want to lose to Suspect."

....... I wasn't really kidding. Suspect making it far IS MoFo Survivor to me. In fact, if I had been allowed to play the Deadpool Duel and if I could have picked someone to return instead of myself.... I was leaning towards picking Suspect, just to add to the drama.

In fact...... Daniel's original elimination from this game, before Wolfsbane brought him back..................

........ That wasn't really anyone else's responsibility. IT WAS MINE. Suspect and I talked after I quit the game and I told him that I really wanted him to win and I told him to go after Daniel more than anybody else. I told him that Dan was his biggest threat (since Dan was my partner in that whole hypnosis drama). And he took care of Dan like.... *snaps fingers* THAT.

It was cold blooded of me to sick Suspect on Dan after Dan had tried to help me get rid of Suspect..... but I wanted to see Suspect win after I quit. I think he's the greatest player MoFo Survivor has had. And I was tired of always cheering on everybody to get rid of Suspect. That doesn't work -- so I thought that -- this time -- I'll support him.

Besides Suspect........ after Suspect was eliminated....... Daniel M, Rhys, Wolfsbane, Camo, Hit Girl........ I would have been cool with any of them winning. Nope, too.

When I initially joined the game, my plan was to stick to Rauldc14 as my biggest partner. NOBODY contacted me and wanted to work with me.... but I contacted him first and I wanted to help him get far. The trouble is.... I didn't trust him. And I probably could have, but I had a hard time doing so.

[rauldc14]

I'm surprised you think that. I think it was you next before Daniel got back into the game after me.

[Rhys]

I'm surprised you think that. I think it was you next before Daniel got back into the game after me.

You could be right. It's just I don't think I ever experienced a vote.

[rauldc14]

Like I said earlier, I wanted to work with SC and Camo in this game but then they both quit and I was basically screwed. I jumped over to Dan's alliance but felt once Gatsby was gone that we were doomed. And we really were, until Dan came back in again.

I just wish Cici and Nope would have trusted what I said about voting for TUS. They could have gone really far and deserved to.

[TONGO]

Tongo- I got a question for you.

If you could rank the top 5 players in this season, who would be the top and why?

Im gonna answer it in a different way, because I cannot decide between Rhys or Dan -sudden coughing sounds of bu11sh!t and cop out-

CiCi - CiCi did for my game what I did for Godoggos game in Survivor 3, made things more lively. Never underestimate the power of charm people! CiCi was very new, highly entertaining, and helped keep the mood loose.

Daniel - I liked how Dan was the only one that was working-it hard to get back in the game. Whats more impressive is he did it in thread too. I knew he would have a hurdle coming back, he kept his cool. He was criticized often openly, and kept his cool.

TheUsualSuspect - TUS had it way too rough this Survivor, and ironically it was me that tried defending him, even put a gag-order on the jury or itd never have stopped. I mean, cmon, we know the guys sharp, but any sins of the past hes had with anyone in game, should be forgiven by now.

Nope - Challenge monster. Mature. Smart. Calm. Will make a tough unpopular decision if needed. As great a new asset to the game for any gamemaster like CiCi but in a different way. In all honesty he'll probably make a better host than me.

Rhys - Whats Rhys supposed to do?! Cause drama?! :laugh: I mean, if the guy isnt under the gun, and hasnt had to sweat as much as Dan.....theres nothing he can do about that?! What, play dumb or piss someone off and hope to be impressively victorious?! No he did the right thing by not screwing up, not being compulsive, and did not beat himself.

[Daniel M]

You just love having control over things SC. You kept PMing me, trying to dictate my every move, turn me on people, but the problem was that you didn't know who my real alliances were. You told me to bring Rhys and Wolf to the final 3 with me actually, then Rhys told me you sent him a PM saying he should vote me out next if he wants to get further :p

[Nope1172]

Just caught up with the thread and I still don't know who to vote for yet.

[Daniel M]

TONGO - What were the biggest shocks for you, watching the game as the host?

[Sexy Celebrity]

You just love having control over things SC. You kept PMing me, trying to dictate my every move, turn me on people, but the problem was that you didn't know who my real alliances were. You told me to bring Rhys and Wolf to the final 3 with me actually, then Rhys told me you sent him a PM saying he should vote me out next if he wants to get further :p

I did tell Rhys that he needed to get rid of you.

I did NOT tell you to keep Rhys and Wolf around until Final 3, though.

I told you that you needed to go to the Final 2 with the DEADPOOL WINNER. I even mentioned earlier in a question to you -- "Why didn't you take the Deadpool winner?"

THAT is who you should have brought because you and that Deadpool winner are BOTH people who were formerly eliminated. Rhys ISN'T such a person.

[Wolfsbane]

How would you have felt if I won the challenge and decided to get rid of you?

After I did a no-show? Perfectly fine with the decision.

[rauldc14]

I really hope everyone is in for a survivor 5. After this season, it could get even crazier!

[Daniel M]

The deadpool winner could, and probably would have got ridden me in the final three. I thought that if Rhys or Wolf won, either would take me through to the final two. Rather be in the final with someone who hasn't been eliminated, than take the risk for what could be the slightest of advantages.

[Rhys]

I really hope everyone is in for a survivor 5. After this season, it could get even crazier!

Whatever happens.
I am in.

[Sexy Celebrity]

The deadpool winner could, and probably would have got ridden me in the final three. I thought that if Rhys or Wolf won, either would take me through to the final two. Rather be in the final with someone who hasn't been eliminated, than take the risk for what could be the slightest of advantages.

I think you should have taken the risk of slightest advantages. Even though I'm not convinced I'd vote for you over Nope. I haven't voted for the winner at all yet in this game, mind you...... but I felt that Nope, while he had been eliminated.... he WORKED to get back in the game by winning the Deadpool Duel.

You...... sorta worked by getting Wolfsbane to bring you back...... but it was Wolfsbane himself who won that power. If that power wasn't available.... you wouldn't be here now. It would be someone else in the Final Two spot.

[Wolfsbane]

Rhys - Very impressed that you did not receive a vote or were a target. Or so you think!!!!! TUS wanted to target you after you stopped replying to us and wanted to take you out. I told him no and to target someone else.

So am I responsible for both people being the final 2????? :p

[Rhys]

Just a question. If all votes are in before deadline will they be announced early?

Its just I may have a commissioned job on Wednesday. Depends if I am chosen or not yet.

[Wolfsbane]

but I felt that Nope, while he had been eliminated.... he WORKED to get back in the game by winning the Deadpool Duel.

Man, I can only imagine what the Deadpool Duel WOULD have been like had TUS, SC and Camo been involved. Would there have been a different winner?

[Wolfsbane]

Just a question. If all votes are in before deadline will they be announced early?

Its just I may have a commissioned job on Wednesday. Depends if I am chosen or not yet.

Possible survivor winner and possible commissioned job? Go Rhys....Go Rhys...

[Rhys]

Rhys - Very impressed that you did not receive a vote or were a target. Or so you think!!!!! TUS wanted to target you after you stopped replying to us and wanted to take you out. I told him no and to target someone else.

So am I responsible for both people being the final 2????? :p

That's fair enough. Then I thank you. Still, I managed to get here without pissing anybody off. Maybe that is why you didn't think I was worth targeting. I was quiet and therefore not an obvious threat?

Again this is only my perspective. I could be wrong in what people thought.

[rauldc14]

Looking back it was very stupid to not pick hard to kill as a superpower. It guaranteed a chance for the final 4. But I thought having it as a power would also put a bigger target on your back. But it really didn't.

[rauldc14]

Halfangel is in the thread. Would like to see her take on what she has for questions.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Man, I can only imagine what the Deadpool Duel WOULD have been like had TUS, SC and Camo been involved. Would there have been a different winner?

I think if Suspect had been the Deadpool Duel winner.... he'd be in the Final 2 right now. Most likely. And he might have even won. I believe he was trying to make arrangements to win the Deadpool and win the game. Yes, he had that whole "hospital" thing and the falling out..... but...... if things had worked out, I could see him in this Final 2 now. I think he probably wanted to win and say he won even though he had been eliminated. It would have been EXTREMELY BADASS.

[Rhys]

You have 30-60 minutes or so of me then I need to sleep. It's 3:30am and have an alarm for 9am.

[Daniel M]

I think you should have taken the risk of slightest advantages. Even though I'm not convinced I'd vote for you over Nope. I haven't voted for the winner at all yet in this game, mind you...... but I felt that Nope, while he had been eliminated.... he WORKED to get back in the game by winning the Deadpool Duel.

You...... sorta worked by getting Wolfsbane to bring you back...... but it was Wolfsbane himself who won that power. If that power wasn't available.... you wouldn't be here now. It would be someone else in the Final Two spot.

In a game where so many people were coming back, I had a feeling that there would be a twist where someone would pick to bring someone back. My feeling was right. I feel like you should appreciate me trusting my feeling. This is something you would do.

I also won three challenges in a row. I won the immunity idol to stop anyone winning that, whoever was in the deadpool could have easily grabbed that, even before that, someone like HalfAngel or Hit Girl could have had it, and if they had used it, I could have gone.

I think that's working hard.

[Rhys]

Just a question. If all votes are in before deadline will they be announced early?

Its just I may have a commissioned job on Wednesday. Depends if I am chosen or not yet.

Possible survivor winner and possible commissioned job? Go Rhys....Go Rhys...

And I have a lot more to be happy about right now. Look forward to the developing Rhys. :)

[Sexy Celebrity]

Still, I managed to get here without pissing anybody off. Maybe that is why you didn't think I was worth targeting. I was quiet and therefore not an obvious threat?

I see nothing wrong with playing a quiet game and riding the coat tails of other people. It was actually going to be MY original strategy this time.... but.... the whole Sexy Krueger / Little Richard thing totally destroyed that.

You do what you have to do to make it to the end. I think you played a phenomenal game.

[rauldc14]

I will say I am amazed by Daniels strategy this season in a season where strategy in a way was thrown out the window by having to many powers, so there was way too much to think about.

[Sexy Celebrity]

In a game where so many people were coming back, I had a feeling that there would be a twist where someone would pick to bring someone back. My feeling was right. I feel like you should appreciate me trusting my feeling. This is something you would do.

I also won three challenges in a row. I won the immunity idol to stop anyone winning that, whoever was in the deadpool could have easily grabbed that, even before that, someone like HalfAngel or Hit Girl could have had it, and if they had used it, I could have gone.

I think that's working hard.

I think you've done a very good job.

And I mean.... if I take credit for helping you get eliminated before Wolfsbane brought you back..... then that's my doing and maybe I should ignore it?

But still..... even with that..... you still didn't survive. Suspect came after you and you were eliminated. Rhys survived this whole time without being eliminated.

He even had the power to eliminate you TONIGHT when he won the final duel.

You've been in some pretty bad hands during this game.

Rhys hasn't had it bad like you. He played a very clean, solid game.

You talk a lot.... but I don't think you're walking in the kind of shiny shoes Rhys has got on right now.

[Wolfsbane]

Rhys played the "perfect" game. No blood, no target, no votes. People need to appreciate that.

I agree with Raul about too many powers. It threw everyone for a loop with that Hypnotize drama.

[Daniel M]

I think you've done a very good job.

And I mean.... if I take credit for helping you get eliminated before Wolfsbane brought you back..... then that's my doing and maybe I should ignore it?

But still..... even with that..... you still didn't survive. Suspect came after you and you were eliminated. Rhys survived this whole time without being eliminated.

He even had the power to eliminate you TONIGHT when he won the final duel.

You've been in some pretty bad hands during this game.

Rhys hasn't had it bad like you. He played a very clean, solid game.

You talk a lot.... but I don't think you're walking in the kind of shiny shoes Rhys has got on right now.

But whose to say that Rhys wouldn't have been eliminated had I not returned?

When I came back we got rid of CiCi because he was targetting TUS, then Raul and Camo. Rhys would have been next after that, more than likely.

[Rhys]

Rhys played the "perfect" game. No blood, no target, no votes. People need to appreciate that.

I agree with Raul about too many powers. It threw everyone for a loop with that Hypnotize drama.

I was cured alright.

[Daniel M]

Rhys played the "perfect" game. No blood, no target, no votes. People need to appreciate that.

But this was largely because of me. I made a promise to him at the beginning that we wouldn't have an obvious alliance that loads of people know about, but we'll make sure we protect each other, and every single round I could I made sure the vote wasn't on him.

As I just said, TUS was picking off my old alliances one by one, Rhys was in that, they would have got him had I not got him first, and then got rid of Nope.

[Sexy Celebrity]

But whose to say that Rhys wouldn't have been eliminated had I not returned?

When I came back we got rid of CiCi because he was targetting TUS, then Raul and Camo. Rhys would have been next after that, more than likely.

That's all a bunch of "what ifs."

What we're LIVING IN RIGHT HERE...... is the reality. This is what happened.

[Wolfsbane]

Rhys - You never answered my question about how you would re-order the elimination list. How would you have liked to have seen it go down.

[rauldc14]

I got rid of myself pretty much with my failed plea. Quitting was the theme of the season really.

[Daniel M]

That's all a bunch of "what ifs."

What we're LIVING IN RIGHT HERE...... is the reality. This is what happened.

You were the one who started with the WHAT IFs. WHAT IF I didn't come back? WHAT IF Rhys eliminated me tonight?

I'm making an equal point. Fact is Rhys wouldn't be here without me.

[Rhys]

Rhys - You never answered my question about how you would re-order the elimination list. How would you have liked to have seen it go down.


Do we have an original elimitation list? It'll help me jog my memory.

[Wolfsbane]

But this was largely because of me. I made a promise to him at the beginning that we wouldn't have an obvious alliance that loads of people know about, but we'll make sure we protect each other, and every single round I could I made sure the vote wasn't on him.

As I just said, TUS was picking off my old alliances one by one, Rhys was in that, they would have got him had I not got him first, and then got rid of Nope.

I wonder what people thought of TUS's alliance and where they stood with him. Raul went ALL OUT to try and convince people to take him out...to no avail.

Daniel got him out, so I guess people need to appreciate that as well.

[Wolfsbane]

Do we have an original elimitation list? It'll help me jog my memory.

Who would you eliminated and in what order....GO.

[Daniel M]

And fact is I wouldn't be here without Rhys either. This isn't me attacking him, I'm just saying I don't feel like me returning should be held against me.

[Halfangel337]

I had a great time playing and my schedule really played havoc with me the last few days when I was still in. I think I had a very good strategy and with one more piece of the plan falling into place I am pretty sure I would be in the final. But alas it did not happen for me. Daniel knows a little about it , but not all:). It was a toss up on who to use my knockout on during that last challenge I was a part of for immunity and it appears I should have used it on Daniel. Anyway coulda shoulda woulda, nice game everyone. YOLO, or in my case




http://cdn.meme.am/instances/20830888.jpg





My questions pretty much goes to both players as I never seemed to have much of a relationship with either, I tried at one point but it was scramble time for me then so probably too late.

Who did you think I was in an alliance with?

How many times did you write my name down during the game?

Of course its your choice to answer and if you don't I wont blame you I pretty much made up my mind, but I am not 100 percent, more like 90/10 , so there is a very slight possibility I may change my decision.

[rauldc14]

If Daniel did not come back, I think it would have been TUS and Halfangel or Wolf in the final 2.

[Wolfsbane]

If Daniel did not come back, I think it would have been TUS and Halfangel or Wolf in the final 2.

I can't answer for TUS, but I have a feeling he would have eliminated me before the final 3.

[Rhys]

Do we have an original elimitation list? It'll help me jog my memory.

Who would you eliminated and in what order....GO.

To be honest with you my game was so much in limbo that I had not a single enemy and this makes it very hard for me.

But who I saw as a threat the most was TUS, SC, Dan and probably later in the game most likely Nope. They all played a fantastic game. Not to say that other didn't.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I got rid of myself pretty much with my failed plea. Quitting was the theme of the season really.

Which is why it could be cool if a person who NEVER WENT ANYWHERE wins this thing.

[Rhys]

I guess TUS was the closest at becoming an enemy but even then.

[Daniel M]

My questions pretty much goes to both players as I never seemed to have much of a relationship with either, I tried at one point but it was scramble time for me then so probably too late.

Who did you think I was in an alliance with?

If Camo appeared, and your knockout came into effect, I would have respected that and got rid of Camo before you. But the way I saw it, I guessed it before he got there, and you were still playing as normal, so I won it fairly. I felt bad getting rid of you after you approached me, but that's the game.

By that point, I started to ask myself if I should have got to have known you more. I had know idea who you were before this game started, and tried to get rid of you the first vote because you were the person I hadn't heard of, but after that you became a really strong player that people really feared. A lot of people wanted me to get rid of you earlier because of your strength in challenges.

How many times did you write my name down during the game?

Voted you out in the first round, and voted you out when you actually went out. If that's what you mean. I think everyone I voted for went out, except when I was eliminated, of course.

[Sexy Celebrity]

My vote is in.

[Daniel M]

Half Angel, I thought you were in an alliance with TheUsualSuspect. Maybe Hit Girl too, probably through him.

[Rhys]

Who did you think I was in an alliance with? I have no real idea to be honest.

How many times did you write my name down during the game? Never. The only person I focused on properly in the entire game was TUS. I tried to never make enemies and I voted as seemed fit for each round. Usually the most vulnerable - but at the same time without betraying anyone.

[rauldc14]

Winners

Big Brother- Godoggo
Survivor 1- The Usual Suspect
Survivor 2- Teeter G
Survivor 3- Donniedarko
Survivor 4- ??????

[7thson]

Damn what an F'ed up game - I can honestly say I am glad I was not in it for long. Nothing personal but there were some bat shiz crazy moments there. I really did want to play but the lack of adhered to scheduling just did not work for me (Sorry Tongo, not bitching just stating why I left). I have read every post in the thread though and kept up when I could. Hope I can partake in the next one.


My questions is - if the last two players were S.C. and TUS who would you vote for and why? And unlike my wife my vote is totally up for grabs. :)

[Daniel M]

If I didn't return then my guess is that Camo, Raul, Rhys all go out.
Then we have TUS, Wolf, Hit Girl, Half Angel, Nope, CiCi.
Then I think TUS goes.
Then I think Nope takes the lead and gets rid of CiCi who he sees as a threat.
Nope and Wolf make a deal and vote off Hit Girl.
Then HalfAngel gets voted out.

So Nope and Wolf, maybe CiCi though, not sure.

[Rhys]

Although a hard decision I think I would vote for SC. TUS played a fantastic game but SC is a player that really goes all out. He played his character whilst also playing very well. I wish he stayed in longer.

[Daniel M]

My questions is - if the last two players were S.C. and TUS who would you vote for and why? And unlike my wife my vote is totally up for grabs. :)

I would vote for SC. I tried to help him in an old survivor game, and although I know he's controversial on here I think he's a good guy and a funny poster. He always becomes an easy target because he's a big personality, and easily gets frustrated. I think if SC managed to win it would be a massive upset, he's an underdog just because of how well known and volatile he is around here.

[Wolfsbane]

I brought Daniel back for numbers. I feel like TUS, then myself would have been eliminated had I didn't.

[TONGO]

TONGO - What were the biggest shocks for you, watching the game as the host?

Oh my god....

Sooooo many. The first challenge I ran where I flubbed the clue twice, and then Optimus screwed up the 3rd clue by guessing it when he was eliminated. Little did he know he was one of the lucky ones. ;)

Then Sexy. Sexy is great for a game, if he wants to be :), and even after he quit the second time I was post commenting and PM'd him how to go about getting in again. When the hypnosis debacle occured I found out thru Dan who sent a polite "They shouldnt have been told they were hypnotised" to then getting a PM from Sexy....which wasnt as polite :nope:

When he started guessing in the challenges I was livid, and tried the whole contact Yoda & made a free forum website for sole purpose of finishing the game. Poor Yoda, you know how plain and polite, but the whole time I could read his mind "Oh hell no Im not getting in the middle of this b.s.".:laugh: As we all know, life goes on, and tempers passed.

People dropping out so fast in the beginning really had me reeling, I mean reeling. It wasnt till I read Godoggos Survivor 3 thread again for challenge ideas till I felt better, she had alot of dropouts in the beginning too.

Nope doing this to my deadpool duel....the 30 second mark...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXW42XWcf7I

Me and Camo had a pissing contest so bad I almost dueled him. I was shocked by how much I was accused of favortism. TUS thought I favored Nope, Camo thought I favored TUS, Sexy thought I was the Devil (I can picture Kathy Bates saying that in Waterboy.) Just on an aside, the ones I was rooting for were CiCi and Hit Girl.

The ugliness between me and TUS probably was most shocking to you all, including me because before all that I never thought me and him ever would have words so bitterly. I was coming after TUS double-barrels last game, Doctor TONGO style, and in thread. We never came even close to that level of ugliness. I hope the bad blood passes, but if it doesnt Ill own it.

The biggest shock of the game was just how many shocking things kept occurring throughout it. It has been one very very interesting month. Guys Im sorry if and when things got too heated. My goal was to run a light survivor, do the lil guessing game, talk some campy smack, up until baseball started.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9lqc22Y2r1qedb29o1_500.gif

[Wolfsbane]

I would vote for SC. I tried to help him in an old survivor game, and although I know he's controversial on here I think he's a good guy and a funny poster. He always becomes an easy target because he's a big personality, and easily gets frustrated. I think if SC managed to win it would be a massive upset, he's an underdog just because of how well known and volatile he is around here.

I don't know about that. I feel like if SC was in the finale with ANYONE, he would win.

[Rhys]

Btw. Sorry about my grammar and stuff atm. It's 4am and I'm using my phone to type now.

[Nope1172]

I got really bored, so I decided to make what this game of Survivor would look like on DVD:
http://i.imgur.com/JEypjZ4.png
(Apologies for the poor photoshop work, it was my first time)

[Rhys]

I got really bored, so I decided to make what this game of Survivor would look like on DVD:
http://i.imgur.com/JEypjZ4.png
(Apologies for the poor photoshop work, it was my first time)

Beautiful.

[Daniel M]

By the way not sure if anyone asked me, but my biggest regret was not doing the challenges at the beginning of the game. Back then I was in a busy period at Uni and was going to sleep before 10pm. When I actually started doing the challenges towards the end, I was pretty good and was able to use them to help me massively.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I don't know about that. I feel like if SC was in the finale with ANYONE, he would win.

My biggest flaw in Survivor 2 was getting to the Final 6 and thinking I might actually win the whole damn thing. NEVER CONVINCE YOURSELF YOU'VE WON TILL YOU ACTUALLY WON.

[Daniel M]

I'm going to bed now too. Good night everyone and thanks to you all for making this a really entertaining game :)

[Wolfsbane]

TUS being traded to the opposite team made me EXTREMELY nervous. Then he won the challenge all by himself and I was relieved. Then Swan quit and I got nervous again. Then TUS eliminates Gatsby, Dan, Sci/Fi, Sean and I feel like I am sitting pretty.

I had an alliance with TUS, CiCi, HitGirl, Camo, Nope and HalfAngel. That was the "big" alliance, that apparently went to crap. Eventually it was TUS, myself, Hit Girl and HalfAngel. TUS orchestrated it all with HalfAngel. I hardly spoke to them.

Daniel was my biggest ally once TUS was gone. Not because I didn't trust Hit Girl or HA, but just because I felt like he thought he owed me, which apparently he did feel that way. So I felt somewhat safe with him.

So biggest shock for me was probably TUS being eliminated. Just because it didn't happen when I planned on it happening. I thought I had more control and realized I had ZERO control.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I got really bored, so I decided to make what this game of Survivor would look like on DVD:
http://i.imgur.com/JEypjZ4.png
(Apologies for the poor photoshop work, it was my first time)


I don't see Sexy Krueger.

[Rhys]

Thank you too Dan! I plan to sleep very soon too.

[TONGO]

Just a question. If all votes are in before deadline will they be announced early?

Its just I may have a commissioned job on Wednesday. Depends if I am chosen or not yet.

Yes. Ill read them as soon as I get all of them.

Slob mentioned maybe not being able to fulfill his duties as a juror. Please somebody else needs to nudge Slob too. ;)

[Nope1172]

My biggest flaw in Survivor 2 was getting to the Final 6 and thinking I might actually win the whole damn thing. NEVER CONVINCE YOURSELF YOU'VE WON TILL YOU ACTUALLY WON.
I can second that. I got too cocky during this game, and that's why I didn't play my idol.

[Wolfsbane]

Tongo - You've had more drama in this game than anyone else!!!! Optimus, Camo, Sexy and Suspect.


That's crazy!!!!!

[Sexy Celebrity]

TUS being traded to the opposite team made me EXTREMELY nervous.

That was my idea. I told Gatsby to do that.

[Rhys]

I hope everyone has enjoyed this game as much as I have.

Why nobody ever nominated me out baffles me. But I guess I owe a Thank You for that.

Whoever you vote to win - just make sure it is the person you truly believe deserves to win.

I want whoever wins to win because they deserve it.

Thank you again.

[Nope1172]

After the game is over can we get a list of stats. Like who won the most challenges, who got the most votes etc.

[Sexy Celebrity]

After the game is over can we get a list of stats. Like who won the most challenges, who got the most votes etc.

Oh, you won't care about any of that a year from now or even 2 months from now.

[Wolfsbane]

Both people deserve it for different reasons.

I read through other Survivors to see how others votes. Saw that the last game was decided with a game of Rock Paper Scissors Lizard Spock and a coin toss. Hope that doesn't happen this time. Each vote should carry weight.

I've voted.

[Nope1172]

Daniel, when you get back online, here is a question I forgot to ask you:
If I had won that final four immunity challenge instead of Rhys, who would you have voted out with your hypnosis?

[Wolfsbane]

After the game is over can we get a list of stats. Like who won the most challenges, who got the most votes etc.

I'm sure this is too much to ask for, but it would be cool to see the top 3 people of such categories. For comparison.

How many duels won
How many immunities won
How many challenges won, etc.

Nope -50000
Daniel - 4000
Wolf - zero

[Wolfsbane]

That was my idea. I told Gatsby to do that.

Would have been brilliant had it worked. I was the first person to use hypnosis on Gatsby and Tongo informed me that he would be notified. I wasn't happy about it.


I knew the sh!tstorm that was about to come and I was right.

[Nope1172]

I'm sure this is too much to ask for, but it would be cool to see the top 3 people of such categories. For comparison.

How many duels won
How many immunities won
How many challenges won, etc.

Nope -50000
Daniel - 4000
Wolf - zero
I actually think Daniel might have more wins than me, He went on a streak after I got voted out.

[Rhys]

In 10 minutes the clock will turn 4:30.

Have you anymore questions before I leave?

[Wolfsbane]

I got a question for Raul - Why did you constantly think I was an alt account? Just curious. Is it my lack of participation in the other threads?


I'm trying to integrate myself more.

[Wolfsbane]

I got questions for everyone:

HalfAngel : What one move do you think helped you most in this game?


Nope - if you could pick a different final 2, who would it be? Not including yourself. Simply based on game.

SC - Will you join the next survivor?

[Nope1172]

Just counted it up, pretty sure I got 5 immunity wins.

[Rhys]

I guess it is time for me to sleep.

Thank you once again.

Just remember I played this game quietly. No back-stabbing, no eliminations and not even a single vote against me. I won multiple immunities too.

Best of all. NO ENEMIES.

[Nope1172]

Nope - if you could pick a different final 2, who would it be? Not including yourself. Simply based on game.

I honestly think this final 2 is pretty perfect, but I am going to exclude them as well just for the sake of the question. I think CiCi deserved to go much farther, and he was voted out way too early. It would have been great to strategize with him more, and I think he played a great early game. I think the other spot would go to either Camo or HitGirl. Both of them played equally great games.

[Wolfsbane]

CiCi is a dude, hahahahaha.

Such a common mistake for a girl name, girl avatar and girl Survivor character.

[Nope1172]

CiCi is a dude, hahahahaha.

Such a common mistake for a girl name, girl avatar and girl Survivor character.
Fixed... sorry CiCi

[Sexy Celebrity]

SC - Will you join the next survivor?

I don't know.

I really shouldn't.

Everything's fun right now tonight.... everything ELSE was a nightmare.

[TONGO]

Tongo - You've had more drama in this game than anyone else!!!! Optimus, Camo, Sexy and Suspect.


That's crazy!!!!!

Thankfully me, Camo, and Sexy are cool. Optimus & TUS...Im assuming not.

Would I have booted Optimus in retrospect? No. Him spitting out an answer when he was supposed to be eliminated now looks tiny in this overall drama ocean.

Honestly I wished it had gone better, wished EVERYONE had a great time with it. That was the goal. Now Im wiser from it.
Hopefully Ill be ok as just a player now :)

[TONGO]

After the game is over can we get a list of stats. Like who won the most challenges, who got the most votes etc.

TONGO doesnt do record keeping well. I wrote the votes on scrap paper as they came in, and tossed them when no longer needed. Had to clean my inbox completely too since Fantasy Baseball leagues started. Ill get something together though, dont stress it. ;)

[Sexy Celebrity]

Hopefully Ill be ok as just a player now :)

You'd probably be far more tolerable as a player. I remember you seemed fun in Survivor 3.

[TONGO]

You'd probably be far more tolerable as a player. I remember you seemed fun in Survivor 3.

When things got wild, I got louder. If trouble started brewing, I came at it too hard. I sadly didnt have the temperament to be a great host, and my note taking ability is the drizzlin sh!ts.

You remember me as fun?! What is this thread, a funeral parlor?! :lol: Damn I know you got hot at times, but bored? cmoooon ;)

[TONGO]

Ive got 5 out of 13 votes in so far. Good night everyone. :)

[TONGO]

Im going thru the thread with the intention of counting votes, Im only on page 32...oh this is painful. Its like hearing your own voice in a recording or watching yourself act....just the most cringeworthy mistakes I made, and so many! :facepalm:

[Wolfsbane]

Im going thru the thread with the intention of counting votes, Im only on page 32...oh this is painful. Its like hearing your own voice in a recording or watching yourself act....just the most cringeworthy mistakes I made, and so many! :facepalm:

Just go to Find my Posts and look at your own.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Wow! I just saw that Rhys had the HARD TO KILL power.....

It was his secret power.

He didn't even need it.....

[rauldc14]

I got a question for Raul - Why did you constantly think I was an alt account? Just curious. Is it my lack of participation in the other threads?


I'm trying to integrate myself more.

Yes that is why. Also you two were very rarely on at the same time posting.

[Hit Girl]

I don't know.

I really shouldn't.

Everything's fun right now tonight.... everything ELSE was a nightmare.

Sexy's new strategy...start out by not joining. :D

[Sexy Celebrity]

Sexy's new strategy...start out by not joining. :D
That's an old strategy, actually.

[Gatsby]

Would have been brilliant had it worked. I was the first person to use hypnosis on Gatsby and Tongo informed me that he would be notified. I wasn't happy about it.


I knew the sh!tstorm that was about to come and I was right.
Who knows how the game might have changed if I had won...

[CiCi]

Well, this has been illuminating :p

I might as well pipe in at this point. Camo and I worked together from very early on. We were initially in opposing groups, but we contacted each other constantly. Mainly helping each other with clues, and trying to ensure we voted out who we felt were threats.

Eventually, we decided, along with a few others, to get TUS out. At no point did I start this idea, but I did try to persuade others to join us. That was probably my biggest mistake, but I don't regret it, at the time I had no reason to get rid of anyone else and TUS consistently proved himself to be an able player at this. I do feel bad for lying to him, and I do apologise again, however, it was never intentionally personal at any stage, it is a game after all!

Rauld told me that I was most likely getting voted out, and I was suspicious anyway because my inbox all of a sudden went completely dead. I was gutted, I loved playing Lucille :D

I did have a tremendous amount of fun though, probably one of the best things I've done since joining the site. I can't wait for the next edition :D

And I think I've decided who I'll vote for, too :p

[Sexy Celebrity]

Nobody ever even VOTED AGAINST Rhys? Not a single vote to eliminate him EVER?

Oh My God.

If you guys award Daniel M the winner of Survivor 4.... I'm going to be so disgusted. The worst winner this game has ever had.

He was fu*king ELIMINATED SECOND.

He came back because Wolfsbane earned a power to bring someone back.

Rhys was never eliminated.

Nobody ever voted against Rhys.

Rhys had the "Hard to Kill" power and never even needed it!

This game will make me so sick if Daniel M wins. Any future editions of "MoFo Survivor" won't even be worth playing.

In fact I will probably downright start to hate Daniel M if he wins -- and I've always liked him - but this is too much. He doesn't deserve to win this game AT ALL!

[Sexy Celebrity]

I would rather see TheUsualSuspect win this damn game before Daniel M.

[Sexy Celebrity]

If any of you already voted for Daniel M without really thinking this through, I DEMAND revotes. I demand they be allowed to change their mind and send in a new vote to TONGO.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Oh My God. Forget just the game -- this will be one of the worst things that ever happened IN MY LIFE if Rhys does not win.

Oh My God. It would make the 1990s Movie Countdown look like a bed with Jake Gyllenhaal lying naked on it -- that's how ugly and horrifying this game will be if Daniel M wins over Rhys. Oh My GODDDDDDDD.

[Sexy Celebrity]

If Daniel M wins this game, I WILL NEVER SHUT UP ABOUT IT.

You will all RUN AWAY FROM THIS FORUM FOR GOOD just to get away from my mouth if Daniel M wins this game.

This place will turn into a ghost town and all that will be left will be CONSTANT screaming and yelling and complaining and EVERYTHING ELSE all because Daniel M won.

Seriously -- you will run. There won't be a Survivor 5. Everyone will leave the forum for good the very same night if Daniel M wins.

The forum will become the internet's most popular legend. The hauntedest of all haunted houses, haunted by me, as I continue to moan and groan if Daniel M wins. No Zelda Rubinstein, the psychic lady from "Poltergeist", will ever stop me. This house will NEVER be clear!!!!

[Sexy Celebrity]

If you vote for Daniel M, please do the world a favor and DON'T reproduce.

If you already have reproduced... I REALLY REALLY hope "Back to the Future" is actually based on a true story. You need to find Doc (Christopher Lloyd)... A.S.A fu*cking P! Cause you need to go back to the past and CHANGE some things, okay? The world depends on it!

[Hit Girl]

If you vote for Daniel M, please do the world a favor and DON'T reproduce.

If you already have reproduced... I REALLY REALLY hope "Back to the Future" is actually based on a true story. You need to find Doc (Christopher Lloyd)... A.S.A fu*cking P! Cause you need to go back to the past and CHANGE some things, okay? The world depends on it!

Are you urging me to vote for Daniel M?

[Sexy Celebrity]

Are you urging me to vote for Daniel M?
Don't even talk to me. If you're seriously considering voting for Daniel M... go away. I demand segregation in this thread. Daniel M voters shouldn't even be allowed in this thread. They should create a separate thread and talk in there. Only sane, intelligent Rhys voters belong in here. If that's you, you can stay and we'll chat. If that's not you... shoo! Rhys voters only!

[Sexy Celebrity]

I'm going to get Donald Trump to build a wall in this thread -- that's how anti-Daniel M voters I am. That wall is going to get erected.

[Hit Girl]

I'm going to get Donald Trump to build a wall in this thread -- that's how anti-Daniel M voters I am. That wall is going to get erected.

I refuse to pay for it!

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[TheUsualSuspect]

I guess I owe an explanation.

First, I would like to thank those who have expressed concern for me. I appreciate it. I want to say that I am physically fine, never once was I in harm's way. A person very close to me was in a car accident and was in the ICU. I waited all night at the hospital and things are not looking good. That's my "hospital" post for those wondering.

While I was waiting, I NEEDED to get my mind off of it and onto other things. So I came to Mofo. I saw Gatsby gush about Dark City and it actually brought a smile to my face. I love that film. So I made an effort to post about it.

I was in no condition to have a deadpool duel. I opted for the Sunday, as I would be back home, showered, rested and ready to spend a few hours 'away'. That did not happen, as Tongo saw my Dark City post and immediately freaked out. Thinking I was using that as a strategy to gain sympathy...to what end? I have no idea. My lack of communication was my focus on the real issue at hand.

I was insulted at the idea that Tongo presented without ever coming to me. Granted,I was not responding to messages. The problem with Tongo is that he's an emotional person. This to me was evident in Survivor 3. He and I had many heated conversations over the course of the game and his love for staying in character was immense. He's done the same here. Stayed in character and has had many heated conversations with people.

I do not regret dropping out of this game. It was the best decision for me at the time. Had I actually played in the deadpool.....who knows.

I wish to apologize to those I've left hanging without explanations for my absence. Tongo, to you for the way I held up the game with minimal explanation. I've taken nothing said in this game about me personally, it's all game play and strategy, except for the host. He's impartial to it all. That's the one and only thing I've ever taken offence to, here at Mofo, not just in Survivor.

Right now, things are up in the air with this person. They are in recovery, but I have no idea what the outcome may be. Hence me taking a few days off to collect myself. Dropping out of this and the WWII HOF had to be done. I'm still planning on running the Mofo Awards, so please send in those lists.


As for the game:

The constant dropping outs, quitting and banning, made it extremely entertaining and difficult. The numerous POWERS that being obtained,which ultimately lead to me being eliminated, was a bit much. I feel like once it was down to so many players, those reward challenges should have stopped and it should have been strict game play.

The dynamic of the game wasn't as interesting,creative or fun as previous ones. I look back to the other games: drawings, quizes, stories, idol hunts from posts, memory challenges, picture quizes...amazing variety. Most of that was from ONE GAME. Then I look here and see how everything relied on us asking questions about a vague movie summary. It got tiresome to me halfway through my own game. Every challenge I was hoping for something different, but was let down each time.

I feel like Tongo desperately wanted to have a really good game and be remembered as a great host, which is why he was so involved emotionally with a lot of the players.

Had those who dropped out stayed in? Who knows what would have happened.

Had Wolfsbane not bring back Daniel? Where would he be? Where would I be? Daniel tried to eliminate me, I eliminated him. He came back and eliminated me. I think he's talented at this game and his lengthy answers to your questions shows how prepared he was for this final.

Rhys - The underdog? The non-target. TheUsualSuspect from Survivor 1. Let me tell you this, the unnoticed angle only works once. ;)

Great game on his end. I can't remember if it was Nope or Rhys, but after they defected to the other side (were they ever with me though?) I would pm one of them occasionally with my false intentions hoping that they thought that I thought, they were still with me. Never got a response so I figured it didn't work. Raul kept threatening to use his idol, which I never thought he ever had. It saved him twice I think.

Had people like CiCi or Nope or Camo stuck to whatever deal I proposed early on? 100% guarantee one or two of those people would be in the finales. Do people think more than just one move ahead? Turning on me did not give them the numbers, it took out a shield. The smarter thing to do would be to use me until the final four, then turn on me.

In my mind, I never turned back on my word, without a provoke. CiCi had my trust, 100% of it until I found out he wanted me out next. Nope had it too, until I found out the same.

I scrambled to make new alliances, enter Half Angel. I think everyone here underestimates her. Her responses to me in PM were EXTREMELY calculated, well written and direct. this told me a few things,but one thing primarily. Trust her. I don't know how far she would have gotten with or without me, I feel like I bring too much baggage into this game.

SC - Thank you for the kind words regarding me as a Mofo Survivor Player. Aside from Daniel, I think you and I are the die hards. Maybe even the face of the game? I'm saying that despite your constant quitting. :p Tongo is quickly becoming part of that die hard list.

Daniel - Had it been you, me and Wolf in the final 3. I would have taken you. For multiple reasons. 1: I said I would and 2: You're a better player than Wolf. I believe I could have beaten Wolf easily in the finals, but as Rhys said...would that be really winning? I think you deserve your final 2 spot. You're one of the FEW people who do think 3-4 moves ahead.

Raul - We were so close in the first survivor. I wanted to trust the hell out of you in this game, but the way you played told me I couldn't. You became SC with your plea to eliminate me. I have to say this though, have enough people saying the same things ie - WE Need To Get Out Suspect....it's bound to do damage. I think it did, regardless of the timing. A person can only fight an entire army for so long before they fall.

Nope - Challenge king. I'm not sure how the deadpool duel would have gone down, but I'm glad that I quit. It at least let's me say that I've never lost a duel ;) You deserve to be in the finals too. You deserved to be in the final 3 over Wolf. Wolf got lucky with his power to bring back daniel and he rode that till the end. What else has he really done in the game? He's missed a lot of challenges. He pulled a Rhys and Hit Girl and played under the radar until that power put a spotlight on him.

HalfAngel - as I said, smart player. I can see her winning this thing in the near future if she decides to play again. Also, not a TUS alt account. ;)

Wolf - We made an alliance early on, we stuck to it. Regardless of what you told Daniel, you still stuck to your word in my mind. Was you bringing Daniel back a mistake? I don't know. I got me to where I am and you to where you are. I never promised you anything more than what I did and had it come down to it (before Daniel came back) the final 3 would have been Hit Girl, myself and Half Angel. With Daniel back, things changed and I would have taken a backseat to see how the votes would have come down (possibly voting for myself).

Hit Girl - Thank you for the kind words in PM, means a lot. Your gameplay was interesting, it was quiet and it was odd. I had a few people messaging me about people trying to vote me out. You were one of them, so I owe you a few round in this game.

CiCi- Early on,I had both Nope and CiCi offer me their immunity idols. I managed to get CiCi to use his on me and have no idea if Nope was genuine or not. Was me getting CiCi to use the idol what made him want to get me out? I offered to give him my immunity idol should I win one. Half Angel asked how I could vote you out after you used the idol on me. As I've mentioned numerous times, I had your back 100% until you were after me. How I wish we stayed true to each other. This game could have been totally different.

I'm surprised that I was the target until I was eliminated. I would have thought that they would have targeted another player to throw me off. I'm also surprised that I was able to dictate who got eliminated when. Gatsby, Daniel, Sci/Fi, Sean, Raul. The thing about Survivor is you've got to make the other person believe it is their idea or in their best interest to vote out said person. Throwing out a few names, then leaning on one helps this case. It also helps when interests align with others. Daniel was a huge target, taking him out when he was targeting me was easy. Having him brought back in and then working with him was brilliant. It would have been amazing, had the final 2 been him and I, but he thought differently.

SC's move to switch me to Gatsby's side had me on edge. No one talked to me about it, it came as a shock. I needed to win that challenge and I did. The entire team took that night off :) They all said "oh, timezone problems, blah blah blah". Then Swan decides to just drop out. The hypnosis issues right after were hilariously bad. I got Wolf to use his on Gatsby, then he tells me that Tongo said he was informing the person. Uh-oh. Knowing this, we used as many as we could, knowing that they would know we used hypnosis on them. They did the same. It was a tie. The amount of bitching afterwards was hilarious. Raul was SOOOO ANGRY.

That duel with Gatsby was interesting because it was the first one.

I guess I should cut this lengthy message short.


Good luck to the final 2. I have no vote in this. You both deserve to win.

[Gatsby]

Dark City is a great film. That's all have to say. Glad you're okay Suspect. :)

[Optimus]

I would of won this if i wern't kicked out. :D

[Wolfsbane]

I would of won this if i wern't kicked out. :D



I think the theme of this survivor, as well as "dropping out" is "what if".

[Camo]

Glad you are ok Suspect :)

What happened for SC to flip out at Daniel?

[TheUsualSuspect]

Glad you are ok Suspect :)

What happened for SC to flip out at Daniel?

It's a tactic.

[Nope1172]

Hey TUS, glad your alright. I wanted to let you know that our allience at the beginning of the game was conpletly genuine. I only started to go against you after Sean was eliminated. This was because of a mix of differen things. Lots of people were telling me that I would lose to you if you got near the end. It was around that time that Raul and CiCi approached me with the plan to get you out, that was when CiCi was eliminated, and I though I was done. Then luckily for me, Daniel came back and gave us the numbers. Unfortunately for me, he voted me out soon after. That was the story of why I turned against you TUS.

[TONGO]

Glad youre back TUS, again Im sorry. It wont happen again.

Do you want to vote on the awards? Ill send you the PM, and you can fill it if you want. after all, the awards were your idea ;)

[Rhys]

I'm on a bit. Got an interview in 30 mins though so more free after that. If you have anymore questions I'll answer ASAP.

[Rhys]

Also good to see you back TUS.

[TONGO]

Ive gotten 7 out of 13 votes in

[Rhys]

All for me.... right? ;)

[Daniel M]

Yeah, can people just ignore what SC is writing. I'm not sure if he actually doesn't want me to win or if he's trying his usual reverse psychology because he does.

Either way, as I've said, I don't think Rhys never being voted for is an extra reason for him to win, its also an extra reason to show my influence, how loyal I was to him, how I protected him from the start etc.

[rauldc14]

Also in regards to the challenges: yes, this format was just something that never really gave some of us a shot at winning. Hit Girl and I among others stated that it wasn't anything that we had a good grasp on. I would have liked to see more variety, hopefully survivor 5 does that. I like challenges where you are given time to complete regardless of being on or not. Like Ryan the Muppet.

[TONGO]

Waiting on 5 votes.

[Camo]

Just voted. Was pretty impossible to decide, i'll be happy to see either win.

[TONGO]

Just voted. Was pretty impossible to decide, i'll be happy to see either win.

👍

4 more votes to go......

[The Sci-Fi Slob]

Can someone bring me up to speed with precedings. Who can I vote for?

[rauldc14]

It's Rhys vs Daniel for the final.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Yeah, can people just ignore what SC is writing. I'm not sure if he actually doesn't want me to win or if he's trying his usual reverse psychology because he does.

I don't want you to win THIS game. I wish I did, but I don't. My judgement is Rhys deserves the win more. I'm sorry. You may be fully prepared for answers to the Jury -- more so than Rhys, it seems -- and you may be presenting your case well.

But this judge isn't convinced. Rhys was never eliminated and never even received a vote to BE eliminated.

You were originally eliminated second.

Danielle Reyes, a Big Brother superstar, once said people who have been eliminated from the game and then came back DON'T DESERVE TO WIN. Don't vote for them, she said.

I agree with her. You are trying to act like you ran Rhys' game. I don't buy it. You couldn't even save your own game. Wolfsbane had to do that for you.

I'd like to see you win... just not in this particular Survivor.

[The Sci-Fi Slob]

I don't want you to win THIS game. I wish I did, but I don't. My judgement is Rhys deserves the win more. I'm sorry. You may be fully prepared for answers to the Jury -- more so than Rhys, it seems -- and you may be presenting your case well.

But this judge isn't convinced. Rhys was never eliminated and never even received a vote to BE eliminated.

You were originally eliminated second.

Danielle Reyes, a Big Brother superstar, once said people who have been eliminated from the game and then came back DON'T DESERVE TO WIN. Don't vote for them, she said.

I agree with her. You are trying to act like you ran Rhys' game. I don't buy it. You couldn't even save your own game. Wolfsbane had to do that for you.

I'd like to see you win... just not in this particular Survivor.

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[TONGO]

Just waiting on 2 votes....

[Sexy Celebrity]

How would everyone else feel if they played this game, NEVER got eliminated... NEVER even got a VOTE to be eliminated.....

And you LOST to a person who WAS eliminated and who was only back because someone ELSE won a special power that brought them back....

How would that feel if you were Rhys and the other person was Daniel M?

You would be ENRAGED.

To the Max!

You don't wanna lose to a loser!

[Sexy Celebrity]

Whose votes do you still need, TONGO?

[TONGO]

Whose votes do you still need, TONGO?

Are you kidding me?! :laugh: Im not gonna have you terrorizing my poor jurors! ;)

[Sexy Celebrity]

I hope they're terrorized for eternity if they vote for Daniel. Chronic nightmares of the worst variety for all of them!

[TONGO]

Nobodys asked me to, but just stating I cant intercede in this "Sexy rally" because many a time in the real Survivor a juror tries to convince the jury. Unlike the real Survivor though Dan or Rhys are able to defend themselves if they want.

[TONGO]

Sent the friendly nudge PM to the final 2 voters. If needed they have till 9am est tomorrow (wed 3/16) at latest.

[Sexy Celebrity]

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I'm going to throw all up in this thread if Daniel M actually wins this.

That I'll tell ya now.

TONGO, do you even need those two extra votes? It is possible there's already a winner.

[Daniel M]

How would everyone else feel if they played this game, NEVER got eliminated... NEVER even got a VOTE to be eliminated.....

And you LOST to a person who WAS eliminated and who was only back because someone ELSE won a special power that brought them back....

How would that feel if you were Rhys and the other person was Daniel M?

You would be ENRAGED.

To the Max!

You don't wanna lose to a loser!

Bore off. How about you actually like Rhys how he feels. We agreed to help each other from the start, and part of me helping in was coming back in, he knows that he would have probably been targeted without me, maybe he could have made another deal, but fact is I helped him.

If Rhys lost to me I'm sure he'd be delighted to have made it this far and to have lost to a good friend, exactly the same as how I'd feel if I lost to him.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Daniel M -- why do you treat Rhys like he's some poor helpless victim who'd have absolutely no chance of winning this game?

Isn't that disgusting? To treat Rhys like he's a guaranteed loser.

Well, you're the one who lost early on!

Rhys might have survived to the end of the game WITH OTHER PEOPLE BESIDES YOU.

I think you're downright deluded --- well, actually, I just think you're making sh*t up to pretend that Rhys needed your help.

NOBODY BUYS IT.

[Rhys]

I'm really interested to know just how these votes are split. If it is a landslide or not.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I'm really interested to know just how these votes are split. If it is a landslide or not.

I'm worried about you. There seems to be a cult leader in our midst.

[Daniel M]

Not at all. What I'm seeing is that I made it here thanks to Rhys and he made it here thanks to me. So I don't think you can use any of your arguments about one of us being a loser or winner. Fact is we're friends and would happily lose to the other if that's what the people decide.

You're the one who's deluded. You're jealous that you quit and couldn't come back.

[Daniel M]

You're really being pathetic here SC, trying to pit us against each other and bring up points that don't make sense to suit your own agenda because of your weird jealousy. You were constantly PMing me trying to tell me what to do, to "help" me, and were doing the same with others. Maybe you should accept that this isn't your own game and some people do things differently to you.

[Sexy Celebrity]

You're the one who's deluded. You're jealous that you quit and couldn't come back.

I made the decision to quit and that's that. There's always Survivor 5 and 6 and 7 and 200 should I want to play in them.

[Sexy Celebrity]

You're really being pathetic here SC, trying to pit us against each other and bring up points that don't make sense to suit your own agenda because of your weird jealousy. You were constantly PMing me trying to tell me what to do, to "help" me, and were doing the same with others. Maybe you should accept that this isn't your own game and some people do things differently to you.

Weird jealousy?

Why are you so mad, Daniel? Maybe because what I've been saying is right?

[Daniel M]

I made the decision to quit and that's that. There's always Survivor 5 and 6 and 7 and 200 should I want to play in them.

In that case, I recommend focusing and preparing on them, instead of obsessing over this game and me. You're the one who's trying to be a cult leader and influence everyone even though it's nothing to do with you. You're the real loser here.

[Sexy Celebrity]

In that case, I recommend focusing and preparing on them, instead of obsessing over this game and me. You're the one who's trying to be a cult leader and influence everyone even though it's nothing to do with you. You're the real loser here.

I'm a Jury member. I wanna help the right person win this game. Thank you.

[rauldc14]

I made the decision to quit and that's that. There's always Survivor 5 and 6 and 7 and 200 should I want to play in them.

Oh please, you will quit all those :p

[Sexy Celebrity]

Oh please, you will quit all those :p

Probably.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Anyway, there may not be much else I can do. The fate of the winner may already be determined. There's a chance it isn't, of course, but.......... I bet it is.

[Daniel M]

Nothing you've said is correct or relevant. Now I wish I didn't let you on the jury. For someone who's meant to be impartial to an extent, you've sent numerous PMs to me and other people trying to stir things and control the game.

[Rhys]

I made it to the final 2 without ever being voted. I was helped EXTENTIALLY by Dan but I got here to the final 2 knowing I NEVER got voted. Not even ONCE. I am happy whoever wins the vote knowing this. I think that Dan is a fantastic strategist and deserves it as much as I do.

[TheUsualSuspect]

I'm worried about you. There seems to be a cult leader in our midst.

You said the same thing about me.

[TONGO]

Sexy I dont think its gonna matter, but since its no longer a unanimous o.k., I wont be able to use your clue if it went to a duel. Dont be mad cause youd make the same decision if in their shoes.

Youve completely made your point, please dont spoil their moment. :)

[Rhys]

I guess the vote is close then?

[Sexy Celebrity]

You said the same thing about me.

That's my job - I'm a cult leader detective.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Sexy I dont think its gonna matter, but since its no longer a unanimous o.k., I wont be able to use your clue if it went to a duel. Dont be mad cause youd make the same decision if in their shoes.

Youve completely made your point, please dont spoil their moment. :)

Like you were ever going to use my clue. I never believed that for one second.

[TONGO]

I would have, but after all this today I dont feel comfortable using it now. I honestly dont now what youre gonna do.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I would have, but after all this today I dont feel comfortable using it now.

Well, that's your problem.

[Camo]

Aren't there 13 voters? It can't come down to a duel.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Guys, please -- I hope you didn't vote against Rhys just because "Sexy Celebrity supports him."

This is his game to win, not mine. I merely support him and think he should win the game. I hope nobody voted against him just because I support him. If you voted against him because of me, you should be ashamed of yourself.

[TONGO]

Aren't there 13 voters? It can't come down to a duel.

11 voters, 13 players

[Sexy Celebrity]

11 voters, 13 players

What do you mean 11 voters? Are you not taking the votes of the people who quit now, like me? Are you screwing up this game even more?

[TONGO]

What do you mean 11 voters? Are you not taking the votes of the people who quit now, like me? Are you screwing up this game even more?

:lol:

Rhys & Dan cant vote Sexy.

[Sexy Celebrity]

:lol:

Rhys & Dan cant vote Sexy.

I know, but you said 11 voters.... that excludes them. You made it sound like there's only going to be 11 votes. There should be more if you included me, 7thson and Swan and anyone else.

[TONGO]

I know, but you said 11 voters.... that excludes them. You made it sound like there's only going to be 11 votes. There should be more if you included me, 7thson and Swan and anyone else.

Youre right. :facepalm: 13 voters

Gatsby
7thson
HalfAngel
Seanc
Sexy Celebrity
Camo
CiCi
Nope
Sci-Fi Slob
Wolfsbane
Hit Girl
Rauld
Swan

:blush::blush::blush:

[Sexy Celebrity]

Okay, thank you. Just making sure.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Yeah, that's right, 'cause Suspect said he wasn't gonna vote. Even though I personally think he should.

[Daniel M]

I wish the deadline for voting was tonight, I just want to find out the result now :p

[Camo]

haha. That correction backfired Tongo :p

[Sexy Celebrity]

I wish the deadline for voting was tonight, I just want to find out the result now :p

You lost.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I have never been so evil to Daniel M like I have in this thread. Seriously - he's one of my favorite MoFos. This is someone who I think "gets" me and understands my sense of humor. This is someone who I considered my biggest ally in Survivor 2.

And I've just totally ran over him like a tractor-trailer.

Stephen King's Maximum Overdrive.

http://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=24577&stc=1&d=1458070128

That should have been my character -- that truck there. I'll have to consider it as one of my characters in this.

I definitely was a monster in this game, that's for sure.

[Sexy Celebrity]

But that's the fun of this game, I think --- you can be absolutely evil.

You have to accept that and appreciate that. It's a nasty game -- the nastiest thing to do on this forum (until I come up with something better soon). And it's fun, even if it might drive you to expensive counseling sessions afterwards (luckily, there are threads where I play counselors and psychotherapists for free).