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Guaporense
10-26-14, 03:23 AM
wierd that so many people here haven't watched much of House. I liked it a lot when it was a new show.
Godoggo
10-26-14, 04:07 AM
In reference to the QL finale, the reason that people were divided about it was because it was one of the best episodes of the series, but it had a note written at the very end of the episode that made a lot of fans very upset. (If you want to know what the note said, you'll have to watch the show because it loses its impact if you haven't watched the show and become invested in these characters.)
Yeah, I know what the note said. When the show was canceled they slapped that note on the end and made it the last episode.
I'll probably never watch it. I like science fiction series, but I like them to have a spooky or weird element to them.
Godoggo
10-26-14, 04:09 AM
Happy about this, although I did not vote for it.
My best friend when I was a kid LOVED this show. We used to watch it and talk about it. I wasn't that particularly crazy about it, but it was alright. I have a couple of seasons of it on DVD.
I found this out years and years ago. I think he looks good even on the Quantum Leap show. Scott Bakula isn't bad, either.
Bakula isn't my type but Stockwell sure is. I don't think he looked bad on the show either. I saw his eyes and it prompted me to look into him further. He has fantastic eyes.
gbgoodies
10-26-14, 04:45 AM
Yeah, I know what the note said. When the show was canceled they slapped that note on the end and made it the last episode.
I'll probably never watch it. I like science fiction series, but I like them to have a spooky or weird element to them.
One of the nice things about "Quantum Leap" is because the premise of the show is that he "leaps" into other people's bodies, (and lives), each episode is different. Some are dramatic, some have more comedy, some are more sci-fi, some are creepy, etc. There are periodic references to real life people and/or events, such as Stephen King, the assassination of JFK when he leapt into Lee Harvey Oswald, and when he leapt into Dr. Ruth Westheimer. He even leapt into a chimpanzee in one episode, he leapt into Al, (Dean Stockwell's character), in an episode, and even switched with Al in another episode. He even leapt into his younger self in a fantastic two-part episode. There was even a story arc with another "evil" leaper.
I highly recommend giving this show a chance. If you're looking for spooky, then start with the Halloween episode "The Boogiem*n".
Godoggo
10-26-14, 04:49 AM
I'd be interested in seeing the Stephen King episode. I read there was a vampire episode but it wasn't talked about very favorably. That doesn't mean I wouldn't like it though. ;)
Maybe I'll see if they have a season cheap somewhere.
gbgoodies
10-26-14, 05:17 AM
I'd be interested in seeing the Stephen King episode. I read there was a vampire episode but it wasn't talked about very favorably. That doesn't mean I wouldn't like it though. ;)
Maybe I'll see if they have a season cheap somewhere.
Yes, but the vampire episode is not the Stephen King episode. The vampire episode is called "Blood Moon". The Stephen King episode is the Halloween episode that I mentioned earlier.
There are a few other spooky episodes as well. An episode with a psychic, and another one with a woman who is haunted by her dead husband.
If you have Hulu Plus, the "Blood Moon" episode is listed, so there may be other episodes available to watch there as well.
Tacitus
10-26-14, 05:35 AM
I had a lot of friends who were into Quantum Leap when it was running but it must have clashed with something (probably an appointment at a bar seeing as it ran during my university years) because I don't think I've seen an entire episode.
I loved The Rockford Files when I was a kid but haven't seen it since then. I miss the slightly oddball, slightly anti-heroic crime solvers from that televisual era. It was a time when private detectives did more than snoop on unfaithful husbands and track down massive debtors. ;)
Godoggo
10-26-14, 05:43 AM
62. I Love Lucy (1951-1957)
http://i59.tinypic.com/2v9q2i8.jpg
Theme Song (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W_CzPL_7LuQ)
Quote: He's put his foot down so many times, I feel like I'm married to a cuban centipede. ~ Lucy Ricardo
Now iconic sitcom starring Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz who were married in real life.
The series revolves around Lucy trying to break into showbiz with hilariously disastrous results.
Popularity: It won five Emmys, was the most watched show four of its six seasons, was voted the all time greatest television show in a poll conducted by People magazine and was the first show to end its run at the top of the Nielsen ratings. Only two shows have since accomplished that feat; The Andy Griffith Show and Seinfeld.
Broadcast achievement: The I Love Lucy show has ran continuously from its first broadcast. It has always been in syndication on one network or another.
On Lucille Ball: She was 41 when the first episode of I Love Lucy aired. She was the first woman to run a major television studio. She was on the very first cover of TV Guide and appeared again a total of 39 times. No other celebrity appeared close to that number. To this day more women comedians sight her as an influence than any other comedian.
Points: 64
Placements: 1 20th, 2 10th, 1 7th, 1 19th
63. The West Wing (1999-2006)
http://i61.tinypic.com/mww0vo.jpg
Theme Song (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0q66-dCMOho)
Quote: You know what you are? You're the Charlie Brown of missile defense. The Pentagon is Lucy. ~President Josiah "Jed" Bartlet
Political drama set mainly in the west wing of the White House.
In the first season the show won a record nine Emmys.
Camera Shots: The show is credited with creating the walk-and-talk shot. The actors are filmed walking towards the camera while having a conversation. One actor can break off and another one join in. This shot can be used when lengthy expository dialogue is needed for a more interesting shot.
Real world issues: The West Wing often parroted actual current events. Subjects like a news radio talk show host with anti- homosexual views, terrorism and scandalous affairs were all dealt with on screen.
Fun fact: The West Wing and Hill Street Blues are tied with the most Emmys for a drama show. They both have 26.
Fun Fact # 2: The character Sam Seaborn was modeled after George Stephanopoulos.
Points: 64
Placements: 1 20th, 1 13th, 1 10th, 1 4th, 1 19th
gbgoodies
10-26-14, 05:52 AM
62. I Love Lucy (1951-1957)
63. The West Wing (1999-2006)
I've been a fan of "I Love Lucy" since I was a little kid, but it didn't make my list. I'm glad to see that it made the list even without my help. Most of my favorite episodes are the ones where they travel to Hollywood and abroad, and they meet a bunch of famous movie stars, but my absolute favorite episode is the one where Ricky tells Little Ricky the bedtime story "Little Red Riding Hood".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9ivqXzmrZ0
I never watched "The West Wing", but my Mom loved it, and she'll be happy to hear that it made the list.
The Gunslinger45
10-26-14, 05:54 AM
Voted for neither. I hope the top 50 is kinder to me.
Tacitus
10-26-14, 05:59 AM
Woo, and furthermore, hoo. The West Wing was my #10 making it just the second of my picks to chart. ;)
Cliff Notes version - Seasons 1-4 were some of the best TV I've ever seen. Seasons 5-7 were jarring in how disappointing they were. I finished a marathon boxset watch just last week so it's all fresh in my head.
If The West Wing had ended when Sorkin left, the show would have made my top three easily.
I love (that's right, Guap) "I Love Lucy". I had it 7th. I wouldn't have placed it so high if I hadn't rewatched several shows two years ago, but I did and they were actually much funnier than I remembered. Lucy was of course the chief scene stealer, but Desi, William Frawley and Vivian Vance were also funny too, and a series of big stars (William Holden, John Wayne, Bob Hope, Orson Welles, Rock Hudson, Harpo Marx, etc.) turned up as themselves to add to Lucy's crazy behavior.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pBhuvqjsOQ
63. The West Wing (1999-2006)
http://i61.tinypic.com/mww0vo.jpg
Hey, there's another one I voted for! I love this speech!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1-ip47WYWc
My list so far:
3. Dragon Ball Z
11. Family Guy
13. The West Wing
25. C.S.I. (Las Vegas)
I expect to see at least 10 more shows of my list on top 50, probably 2 or 3 of them in the top 10 but let's see!
Sexy Celebrity
10-26-14, 07:49 AM
FINALLY this list is starting to live and breathe again.
I had I Love Lucy at #10.
It was a weird addition to my list because I originally had no plans to put it on there as I don't watch it ... hardly ever anymore. And NOT A LOT in the past. But it came to my mind and I figured it needed the help points-wise and DESERVED to be on this list. And I liked it a lot when I watched it. So I added it and put it kind of high on my list.
ON MY LIST
1. The Golden Girls
10. I Love Lucy
15. 3rd Rock From The Sun
24. Family Guy
25. Max Headroom (1 point show)
christine
10-26-14, 08:20 AM
Seen a few Quantum Leaps, decent show as was The Rockford Files. I Love Lucy is my favourite of the last four. Like I said somewhere else , Lucille Ball was definitely a groundbreaking comedienne . Not seen The West Wing, but thinking I might line it up for when I have my foot op and I'm imprisoned in my own house for a few weeks!
Miss Vicky
10-26-14, 09:32 AM
I don't love Lucy and I haven't seen The West Wing.
Never watched I Love Lucy, or Quantum Leap and haven't even heard of The Rockford Files. I did like The West Wing though, i honestly expected it to make the top half at least. It wasn't close to making my list mainly because i haven't watched enough of it, i watched up to the Presidents; Secrataries funeral whenever that was.
Sexy Celebrity
10-26-14, 10:12 AM
I don't love Lucy
This is why there's Ebola.
West Wing was the one show I wanted to get to specifically for this list. All the talk over the years and knowing it was Sorkin, I was sure I would love it. I did after the first season but it soon lost steam and felt repetitive to me. I wonder if I will ever love another 25 episode a season show. They just seem to have so much filler to me in the day and age of the 12 episode season. Oh well.
Lucy didn't make my list but it is fun and iconic and I am happy to see it.
Godoggo
10-26-14, 12:12 PM
This is a list of favorite tv shows so I Love Lucy placed where it placed, but any list of iconic and influential tv shows and it would have to place much much higher. Take Will & Grace for example; it's just a revised modern day take on the I Love Lucy show.
I really admire Lucille Ball and all that she did. She was far more than just a funny comedian.
Never seen The West Wing but it looks interesting to me. I'm getting quite a list of shows I want to see now. Too bad they take far more commitment to watch than a movie does.
Citizen Rules
10-26-14, 01:32 PM
Citizen Rule's recap of the last 4 shows.
Rockford Files...I watched it as a kid, but didn't vote for it.
West Wing...Never seen it.
Quantum Leap...Never seen it. But GBG has convinced me to watch it:)
I Love Lucy...Believe it or not I've never seen a complete episode.
On the show Laverne & Shirley they paid tribute with several I Love Lucy style episodes.
cricket
10-26-14, 01:46 PM
I Love Lucy is only the 4th show from this list that I've seen, and I've probably seen every episode. I thought about voting for it, and probably should have.
Haven't seen The West Wing.
Thursday Next
10-26-14, 01:57 PM
I like Quantum Leap a lot, but didn't vote for it.
christine
10-26-14, 02:25 PM
This is a list of favorite tv shows so I Love Lucy placed where it placed, but any list of iconic and influential tv shows and it would have to place much much higher. Take Will & Grace for example; it's just a revised modern day take on the I Love Lucy show.
I really admire Lucille Ball and all that she did. She was far more than just a funny comedian.
this is very true, I Love Lucy must be the mother of American tv family sitcoms and Lucille had a profound influence on women in comedy. Anyone who doubts her influence beyond comedy should read up on Desilu
http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desilu_Productions
Sexy Celebrity
10-26-14, 02:36 PM
Yeah, seriously, Miss Vicky. Read up. Put down that Tom Petty biography and go read up on Desilu.
honeykid
10-26-14, 03:08 PM
Yeah, but influence and funny ain't the same thing. :D
christine
10-26-14, 03:25 PM
Yeah, but influence and funny ain't the same thing. :D
:p
Guaporense
10-26-14, 07:26 PM
I love (that's right, Guap) "I Love Lucy". I had it 7th.
Now you are using it in the way I expect for it is used. You claim you love the show and put it into your top 10 favorite shows of all time, that's exactly the way I expect for the word love to be used in regards to TV shows, so there is no reason to say "that's right, Guap". :p
Frightened Inmate No. 2
10-26-14, 07:38 PM
eh, the west wing is alright but aaron sorkin's dialogue annoys me.
i love lucy is pretty good, but i didn't watch it as much as i watched a lot of other classic sitcoms.
teeter_g
10-26-14, 07:58 PM
Can we have more shows.....those shows are both bad. LOL!
gbgoodies
10-26-14, 08:04 PM
this is very true, I Love Lucy must be the mother of American tv family sitcoms and Lucille had a profound influence on women in comedy. Anyone who doubts her influence beyond comedy should read up on Desilu
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desilu_Productions (http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desilu_Productions)
If it wasn't for Lucille Ball and Desilu, we might not have "Star Trek".
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Desilu
Sexy Celebrity
10-26-14, 08:09 PM
If it wasn't for Lucille Ball and Desilu, we might not have "Star Trek".
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Desilu
Yeah, well, I don't like Star Trek, either.
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Citizen Rules
10-26-14, 08:11 PM
No Star Trek....shutter the thought:eek:
Interesting link I had never seen that page at memory alpha
Sexy Celebrity
10-26-14, 08:13 PM
I don't wanna seem like a word snob (or do I?) ... but that should be "shudder the thought." Not "shutter."
Guaporense
10-26-14, 08:19 PM
No Star Trek....shutter the thought:eek:
I think Star Trek will show up in the top 50.
Sexy Celebrity
10-26-14, 08:21 PM
I think Star Trek will show up in the top 50.
I hope it doesn't.
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Godoggo
10-26-14, 08:28 PM
Now you are using it in the way I expect for it is used. You claim you love the show and put it into your top 10 favorite shows of all time, that's exactly the way I expect for the word love to be used in regards to TV shows, so there is no reason to say "that's right, Guap". :p
Good grief, Guap. If I have to put something on a list every time I say I love it we are going to need a lot more lists going on. Today alone I need one for The Sixth Sense and Moulin Rouge.
I don't categorize and list and analyze the way you do. When something comes up in conversation and it's something I really really enjoy my reaction is Oh, I love that. I don't know what is so hard to understand about that or why I need a list to prove the validity of my statement.
Guaporense
10-26-14, 08:29 PM
Ok ok. Sorry for making a fuss out it.
Godoggo
10-26-14, 08:51 PM
60. Lonesome Dove (1989 mini-series)
http://i62.tinypic.com/i40dn6.jpg
Theme Song (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rHTvbfJQIxY)
Quote: Lorie darlin', life in San Francisco, you see, is still just life. If you want any one thing too badly, it's likely to turn out to be a disappointment. The only healthy way to live life is to learn to like all the little everyday things, like a sip of good whiskey in the evening, a soft bed, a glass of buttermilk, or a feisty gentleman like myself. ~ Gus McCrae
A mini-series based off of the Pulitzer Prize winning novel of the same name.
At the time of its airing both the Western and the mini-series were no longer popular. However, Lonesome Dove was extremely well-received and is credited with reviving both mediums.
Casting: Robert Duvall was originally cast to play Woodrow Call, but was later cast to play Augustus McCrae when Tommy Lee Jones was thought to make a better Call.
Sequel: Return to Lonesome Dove was televised in 1993. Two of the leading roles were recast with Jon Voigt filling Tommy Lee Jones role and Barbara Hershey stepping in for Anjelica Huston.
Call and McCrae: Both are former Texas Rangers that run a livery together. Call is originally from Scotland and McCrae from Tennessee.
Points: 65
Placements: 1 15th, 1 12th, 1 9th, 1 6th, 1 23rd
59. Louie (2010- )
http://i57.tinypic.com/fwk2v8.jpg
Theme song (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9AakhvdAW2o)
Quote: Just because you like to hang out in your underwear on your couch doesn't mean the United States of America wants to see it. ~ Jack Dahl
A sitcom created by and starring comedian Louis C.K as a fictionalized version of himself.
Louis has created a different format for his show by using unconnected segments interspersed with his stand up act.
Fun fact: Louis C.K won an Emmy for Louie but it wasn't his first. He won three writing Emmys for his work on The Chris Rock Show.
Fun Fact # 2: Louis turned down a bigger budget on a different network because he could have full control on the FX network.
Points: 65
Placements: 2 4th, 1 25th, 2 24th, 1 10th
Godoggo
10-26-14, 09:01 PM
Ok ok. Sorry for making a fuss out it.
It's fine. There have just been so many posts about it now it was starting to feel like an accusation and it was a weird thing for me to feel like I had to defend. I really do have much affection for both Akira and Full Metal Alchemist.
For whatever reasoning I had at the time, I didn't include any anime series, but I like Cowboy Bebop, Full Metal Alchemist and Blood + better than at least one show on my list. Blood + I like more than a few.
Another show I didn't include was Lonesome Dove. It just didn't occur to me to put a mini-series on my list or it would have at least fifteen more points.
I discovered Lonesome Dove at the library. I didn't know it was a mini-series, I thought it was a movie. By the first thirty minutes I was hooked and we ended up watching it in one setting and making a day of it. It was a really good day.
It has become one of my favorites and even enticed me to read the book.
The Gunslinger45
10-26-14, 09:13 PM
Watched neither and voted as such.
Sexy Celebrity
10-26-14, 09:23 PM
I have to say I hate that mini-serii (plural for mini-series?) were accepted.
To me, those things are just glorified, elongated movies. They're not TV shows.
That Berlin Alexanderplatz actually played in a movie theater. It's a f**king movie!
Miss Vicky
10-26-14, 09:26 PM
Haven't seen either of these.
Lonesome Dove was my #9. I have watched it all the way through three times and love every minute of it. So many great characters but none as good as the two main ones, played by Duval and Jones. I try to pretend the sequels don't exist. A good example of they should have left well enough alone.
Sexy Celebrity
10-26-14, 09:32 PM
See, that's not a show. It has sequels.
cricket
10-26-14, 09:33 PM
Never heard of either of those.
My list 0/42
Seen 4/42
Heard of 22/42
I'm pretty sure my #1 didn't make it at this point. I'm now thinking I'll have about 10 show up. I initially thought about 20.
See, that's not a show. It has sequels.
I honestly don't know where the right place to put them is but there are some great ones that deserve to be talked about. I have a couple in my 100 as well. I can see putting them in either category.
honeykid
10-26-14, 09:42 PM
eh, the west wing is alright but aaron sorkin's dialogue annoys me.
Oh, God. FI2 and I agree on something. :worried: Isn't that one of the signs of the apocalypse?
For whatever reasoning I had at the time, I didn't include any anime series,
Common sense? Good taste? :p:D
I don't really have anything to say about either of these. The first is a western mini series, so I've not paid any attention to it at all, while I've yet to get into Louis C.K.
Frightened Inmate No. 2
10-26-14, 09:54 PM
Oh, God. FI2 and I agree on something. :worried: Isn't that one of the signs of the apocalypse?
i agree with honeykid? i suddenly feel dirty...
also Louie was my #4. watched it this summer on netflix and i loved it. once the colbert report is off the air, it will be the best thing on television.
To me, those things are just glorified, elongated movies. They're not TV shows. That Berlin Alexanderplatz actually played in a movie theater. It's a f**king movie!
It was first broadcast on German TV on twelve consecutive weeks, one episode a week (two on the first and last week) in the Fall of 1980. That sounds like a TV show.
Guaporense
10-26-14, 10:55 PM
Some things can be both TV shows and movies. If they are broadcast/shown in both formats.
Guaporense
10-26-14, 11:01 PM
100. The Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson
99. The Larry Sanders Show
98.Dragon Ball Z (10 year old nostalgia rating: 5 +++, current rating: 3
97.Supernatural 3
96. NFL Monday Night Football
95. One Piece - read some of the manga, haven't watched it
94. Pride and Prejudice
93. 3rd Rock From the Sun
92. Will & Grace
91. Cowboy Bebop 4_5 + My List.
90.The Planet Earth
89. The Mighty Boosh
88. The Young Ones
87. Only Fools and Horses
86. Columbo
85. Scrubs 3_5
84. That '70s Show 3 really crude stuff.
83. Family Guy 3_5 Very low level comedy but it's entertaining to me.
81. King of the Hill -tie 4 More sophisticated comedy, feels more fresh compared to the show above.
81. The Colbert Report -tie
80. The Golden Girls
79. Avatar: The Last Airbender
78. Archer 4 Great animated comedy.
77. Prison Break 2_5 Seem a couple episodes, boring.
76. The Andy Griffith Show
75. Boy Meets World
74. Berlin Alexanderplatz
73. Spaced
72. The Prisoner
71. The Dick Van Dyke Show
70. Curb Your Enthusiasm
69. Northern Exposure
68. Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood 5
67. Sons of Anarchy
66. Angel
65. House MD 3_5 (4_5 for the first seasons)
64. The Rockford Files
63. Quantum Leap
62. I Love Lucy
61. The West Wing 4 (seem only few episodes but they were really great)
gbgoodies
10-26-14, 11:37 PM
60. Lonesome Dove (1989 mini-series)
59. Louie (2010- )
I bought Lonesome Dove on DVD because it got great reviews, but I haven't had a chance to watch it yet.
I've never even heard of "Louie".
Citizen Rules
10-26-14, 11:45 PM
...Another show I didn't include was Lonesome Dove. It just didn't occur to me to put a mini-series on my list or it would have at least fifteen more points.
Ditto that. I like mini series and loved Lonesome Dove. All the actors were just amazing in it. Great sweeping story arches. But I didn't vote for it, I never thought to include mini series on my list.
R.P. McMurphy
10-27-14, 12:22 AM
LONESOME DOVE!!!!!!! I've seen it all the way through at least 10-15 times. So happy it made it this high on the list!
R.P. McMurphy
10-27-14, 12:24 AM
I had this as my #6
donniedarko
10-27-14, 01:12 AM
Louie is a really funny show, I used to watch it a lot back when Wilfred first premiered on FX. Haven't really watched either lately though
Holden Pike
10-27-14, 10:31 AM
"Louie" is definitely one of my favorites currently on the air, and by the time he is done with this series it'll likely be near top fifty material. But I didn't vote for it, here. What I did vote for...
http://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=18201&stc=1&d=1414412251
"Lonesome Dove" is one of the best Westerns ever made. It just so happens it was done as a television mini-series rather than a feature film. Which is good, because adapting Larry McMurtry's dense, thick novel as an eight-hour series allowed them to include so many of the subplots and myriad of characters that would have been excised out of necessity to make it fit even a three and a half hour feature film. It also contains, perhaps, Robert Duvall's single greatest performance. Which, obviously, is saying an awful lot, given the man's career. Duvall has assessed himself that the moment of the hanging at the river is his own choice for his best on screen moment of acting. The entire epic saga is thrilling, hysterically funny, emotionally compelling, and always Grade-A entertainment. Just remember: They don't rent pigs.
I had "Lonesome Dove" as my number twelve choice, fourteen points, and it is the only mini-series that made my top twenty-five. So yes, I think it is better than "Roots" and "Band of Brothers" and everything else ever made for the medium.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m44NQUIOaiQ
http://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=18202&stc=1&d=1414416526
I had "The Rockford Files" as my number one choice. Not only is is the greatest detective/crime series ever, for me it rises to the top of the tops of everything. Stephen J. Cannell subverted the genre that was, at that time, one of the most popular on the airwaves, in a similar way that the Garner-starring "Maverick" had done for TV Westerns two decades before. Jim Garner's Jim Rockford was a reluctant hero, to be sure, a smartass who would rather talk his way out of trouble than throw a punch or pull a trigger, and more likely to perpetrate an elaborate con in order to prove a client's innocence than find a simple clue. And this private dick didn't have a glamorous office while he sipped bourbon with his cheeky secretary, rather he lived in a small, cruddy trailer on the beach, and was often in trouble with one bill collector or another. The Rockford character's practicality, humor, and grouchiness were a great center for the series, and while the genre plots of kidnappings, blackmail, murder, and fraud were sometimes interchangeable by the final couple years of the show, the real secret of "The Rockford Files"' sustained success was its supporting cast. Jim had help/friction/fun/consternation/friendship and always on screen chemistry with some equally terrific series regulars.
Joseph "Rocky" Rockford, played by the wonderful Noah Beery Jr., who had been acting in Hollywood since the 1920s, a beloved character actor from dozens of movies and TV shows, including Red River and Sergeant York, was on hand as Jim's even grouchier and more stubborn father. But he was also his moral compass. Not that he wasn't above breaking a rule or law if it helped a friend, but if he saw Jim stray too far from what seemed honest and decent, you can bet he'd let him know. Let him know in his irascible, passive/aggressive way. And he was usually right. On the other end of the scale, somebody who would absolutely sell out anybody and everybody, including friends or family if there was half a buck in it, was Jim's old cellmate, Angel Martin, played hysterically to the hilt by Stuart Margolin. As often as he would drag Jim into trouble, Rockford would also use him for some of his more unsavory or elaborate cons, even knowing that Angel was weak, greedy, and undependable. But dealing with the kinds of criminals he routinely did on his cases, Angel was a necessary evil to keep around. He was also a delight, on screen, a motor-mouthed weasel . Jim Rockford was always running afoul of authority figures and the actual authorities, but he had one good friend on the Los Angeles Police force, Detective Dennis Becker (Joe Santos). Jim might abuse the friendship from time to time by using Becker's name and resources to run plates and such, but Becker knew Jim was ultimately a decent man and almost always on the right side of things...even if it too often looked to his superiors, the most long-suffering of them being Lt. Chapman (James Luisi), like Rockford was on the hook for any manner of crimes, including murder now and again. But Jim always cleared his name, with the help of his friends, and Becker would usually be the one swooping in to get credit for the bust at the end, so it was a symbiotic friendship. And the final regular who helped Jim out of the trouble he found himself in was his attorney, Beth Davenport (Gretchen Corbett), who was often left in the dark for her own protection, somehow arranging bail for Jim so he could go out and track down the last piece of the puzzle that would either clear him or his client.
Oh, and by the way, it has one of the greatest theme songs ever, too, written by the amazing Mike Post. It is so perfectly of its time, the synthesizer and harmonica with a full orchestra just screaming the 1970s, but for me and I'm sure other fans, it illicits a Pavlovian response of warmth and joy and smiles, hundreds of hours spent happily in the warm glow of the old Zenith. The show is also a wonderful/hideous snapshot of '70s Los Angeles, a cultural artifact of wide collars, earth tones, neon, gold medallions, and sunsets.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg1Cx26-928
Because James Garner is one of the most likeable actors I have ever seen on screen, because that cast of regulars was so damn good as had so much fun interacting with each other, and because the tone was so endlessly fun and funny, "The Rockford Files" is incessantly watchable TV escapism at its finest. I think Jim Rockford is still the coolest sumb!tch there ever was (I have a checkered jacket similar to his, but have not yet ponied up for a vintage Firebird), and I can (and do) pop in an episode or two whenever I need some good vibes and perfect entertainment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOMZckTiFDk
My list, so far...
1. "The Rockford Files" (#64)
4. "Curb Your Enthusiasm" (#70)
7. "The Larry Sanders Show" (#99)
12. "Lonesome Dove" (#60)
14. "The Colbert Report" (#81)
25. "Have Gun, Will Travel" (DNP)
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christine
10-27-14, 11:54 AM
Not seen Lonesome Dove and never heard of Louie
I don't categorize and list and analyze the way you do. When something comes up in conversation and it's something I really really enjoy my reaction is Oh, I love that. I don't know what is so hard to understand about that or why I need a list to prove the validity of my statement.
Nothing unusual in that Go, I do it all the time too :)
honeykid
10-27-14, 01:09 PM
Great write up, Holden. :)
Again i haven't seen either of them.
R.P. McMurphy
10-27-14, 07:05 PM
Yes, Holden. Very nice write up! It's nice to see some other members that have a special place in their hearts (and their Top 25 list!) for Lonesome Dove.
Holden Pike
10-27-14, 07:09 PM
There have been long-rumored reboots for two of the beloved series I have voted for: Have Gun - Will Travel and The Rockford Files. The first was supposedly being done as a feature, as was done with Maverick in 1994 starring Mel Gibson and featuring Jim Garner, himself. Back around that time, John Travolta was supposedly going to play the iconic Paladin of Have Gun - Will Travel, but it never came to be. Thank goodness! The Gibson reboot of Maverick did alright, box office wise, but the infamous failure, critically and financially, of the Wild Wild West reboot with Will Smith in 1999 likely put the chances of any of the old 1950s TV Westerns getting a big budget remake out to pasture. A couple years ago David Mamet's name was attached in a couple reports to a TV reboot of Have Gun - Will Travel, but that has yet to pass, either.
As for The Rockford Files, it was set for a TV reboot around 2010, with Dermot Mulroney as the new Jim Rockford. "Firefly"'s Alan Tudyk was announced as Dennis Becker, and Beau Bridges as Rocky Rockford. Yet that never came to be, either. More recently, Vince Vaughn has been attached to a potential feature film Rockford Files reboot, but that seems no closer to fruition, either. No clue as to whether it would be done "straight", as a period piece, or more like the Starsky & Hutch with Ben Stiller and Owen Wilson where Vaughn played the villain?
As a fan of both properties, I sincerely hope neither is ever remade.
Godoggo
10-27-14, 09:31 PM
58. Parks and Recreation (2009- )
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Theme Song (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wI7f4CgATiE)
Quote: We have a couple of house rules, though. You can't use the front door; you have to climb in through the back window. No personal phone conversations. If you ever speak to me in Spanish, please use the formal "usted." And no electricity after 6:00 PM. A couple more rules: if you ever watch a sad movie, you have to wear mascara so we can see whether or not you've been crying. There's no noise allowed on Mondays. And no TV after breakfast. ~ April
A mockumentary style sitcom about a bureaucrat in the Parks department and her staff.
After receiving mixed reviews the first season, changes in the format and tone were made and it became more of a success with the critics.
Origin: The idea for the show came from the lifeguard staff of El Segundo, CA. They are apart of the parks and recreation dept. there. It had originally been conceived as an Office spin-off.
Characters: The role of April was created specifically for Aubrey Plaza. Donna was originally a background character but got upgraded.
Points: 65
Placements: 1 25th, 1 20th, 2 16th, 1 14th, 1 17th, 1 9th
57. M*A*S*H (1972-1983)
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Theme Song (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4gO7uemm6Yo)
Quote: It's the way these yellow devils think. It's burned into their brains. Kill Americans, kill, kill. They don't respect human life the way we do. I'd like to take him out and shoot him. ~ Frank Burns
A sitcom equal parts comedy and drama based on the 1970 film of the same name. It's setting is the Korean War and ran longer than the actual war lasted.
Many episodes in the early season were based on interviews of actual MASH surgeons.
Poignant episodes: There were many episodes where even the most stoic person would have trouble keeping a dry eye, but two episodes in particular had people reaching for the tissues. The episode Abyssinia, Henry had M*A*S*H commander Henry Blake being sent home for good only to have his plane shot down.
The series finale was a heart breaker from start to finish but BJ's Goodbye message to Hawkeye was especially poignant.
Changes: Many characters came and went in the eleven seasons that M*A*S*H ran and the style changed somewhat through the years. Many fans preferred Trapper John as Frick to Hawkeye's Frack while others preferred the more serious BJ Hunnicut. However, the show remained popular with high ratings and still holds the title of having the most watched series finale in tv history.
Spin-offs: Trapper John M.D After M*A*S*H and a pilot W*A*L*T*E*R was shown but never picked up.
Points: 67
Placements: 1 17th, 1 16th, 1 18th, 1 9th, 1 22nd, 1 19th, 1 14th
Not seen Parks and Rec but I absolutely love M*A*S*H*. I had it at #13 I think. And to be honest I'm shocked it's came in so low. That's one of the most iconic shows of all time. I'd have bet anything that would be at least top 50.
Also when I was talking about Angel a few days ago I forgot to say how sad I was when Andy Hallett (who played Lorne) passed away a few years ago. Such a shame
Godoggo
10-27-14, 10:01 PM
I had M*A*S*H at #17 and I also thought it would place much higher.
Miss Vicky
10-27-14, 10:09 PM
Man, I thought the 70s were bad as far as the seen/not seen and voted for/didn't vote for ratios. This is way worse.
I haven't seen Parks and Rec. I've seen bits and pieces of MASH and have had no desire to watch more.
MASH is a show I wish I have seen more of. I have liked the few episodes I have seen.
Parks And Rec is great. Not Office or Seinfeld great, but great. I wouldn't say I love it but Godoggo probably does.;)
cricket
10-27-14, 10:11 PM
I've only seen a few episodes of M*A*S*H. At the time it was on, I wasn't interested, and I never sought out the reruns. I'm pretty sure I'd like it now, and I think it would be hard to find another television show list on the Internet in which this show places lower.
Never saw Parks and Recreation.
R.P. McMurphy
10-27-14, 10:14 PM
I absolutely love Parks and Rec. and this is another one I'm kicking myself for not including on my list. Nick Offerman's character, Ron Swanson, is the greatest character ever written. A man to model yourself after.
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Godoggo
10-27-14, 10:15 PM
MASH is a show I wish I have seen more of. I have liked the few episodes I have seen.
Parks And Rec is great. Not Office or Seinfeld great, but great. I wouldn't say I love it but Godoggo probably does.;)
I've seen a few episodes of Parks & Rec. mainly for Aubrey Plaza because I love her. :p I thought it was funny but it didn't click right away. I'm sure if I watched it some more it would.
Nick Offerman's character, Ron Swanson, is the greatest character ever written.
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R.P. McMurphy
10-27-14, 10:18 PM
I've seen a few episodes of Parks & Rec. mainly for Aubrey Plaza because I love her. :p I thought it was funny but it didn't click right away. I'm sure if I watched it some more it would.
I feel like the show really didn't hit it's comedic stride until the 2nd season, at least for me. But once it does, it's GOLD.
And sorry, Swan. Michael Scott just can't measure up to Ron Swanson. It's just science.
And sorry, Swan. Michael Scott just can't measure up to Ron Swanson. It's just science.
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Godoggo
10-27-14, 10:21 PM
I feel like the show really didn't hit it's comedic stride until the 2nd season, at least for me. But once it does, it's GOLD.
And sorry, Swan. Michael Scott just can't measure up to Ron Swanson. It's just science.
I don't know what season I was watching. After reading what I did about the first season, I'd probably skip it.
gbgoodies
10-27-14, 10:31 PM
58. Parks and Recreation (2009- )
57. M*A*S*H (1972-1983)
"M*A*S*H" is a great show, but it just barely missed my list. I'm glad to see it made the list, but like some others have said, I thought it would have been much higher.
"M*A*S*H" was a show that had some amazing episodes, and all of the characters were great. Even characters who were supposed to be unlikable were still fantastic characters, like Frank Burns and the pompous Major Charles Emerson Winchester III. Even the recurring characters were memorable, like Dr. Sidney Freedman and Colonel Flagg. There were even some guest stars who were young unknown actors at the time, who went on to become household names, like John Ritter and Patrick Swayze.
Anyone who hasn't seen this show should definitely give it a try.
I've never seen "Parks and Recreation".
honeykid
10-27-14, 10:36 PM
I really liked MASH when I was a kid. Had I made this list when I was 10 or 11, it'd have been top 10 for sure. Now, though, it really does nothing for me. I last saw an episode about a year ago and nothing. It's not that it's bad, just that it's on and then it ends and I'm pleased.
I tried the first two episodes of Parks and Recreation but it's exactly the kind of thing that I really don't like at all.
Godoggo
10-27-14, 10:44 PM
I think M*A*S*H has made me cry more than any other tv show other than maybe Little House. Some of the episodes were devastating.
Citizen Rules
10-27-14, 10:51 PM
M*A*S*H was #18 on my list.
It's the brilliant characters and the sometimes bittersweet stories, laced with comedy that makes the show so special.:)
Harry Lime
10-27-14, 11:17 PM
Kind of got bored with Parks and Rec after a while. Not as bad as Community, though. Think I started/stopped that show three times.
If I had made a list MASH would be in my top 10 without question. I think most people who grew up with MASH would have it in their top 10. It was such a phenomenon when it was on TV.
I tried really hard to like Parks and Rec because I adore Amy Poehler and I'm pretty sure a lot of people behind "The Office" started Parks and Rec. I just couldn't get into though and it wasn't for a lack of trying. I watched well into season four believing that I would finally "get it" but alas, It's just not my thing. There are some good characters like Ron and April, but I LOATHE that Indian guy and I don't think Rashida Jones brings much to the table comedically. I also think Amy Poehler would do better as a wackier character. She was incredible as Andy's little sister on Conan and she was amazing on SNL. If Leslie Knope developed a crack addiction I think I could really get into it. Also, what's the deal with Adam Scott and Rob Lowe? Neither are funny. Too many failed characters for me. Ron, April and Andy can't carry the whole show.
Captain Spaulding
10-28-14, 01:50 AM
Lonesome Dove was my #23. I love westerns and I enjoy reading, so I decided to combine the two a couple of years ago by reading Lonesome Dove, my first western novel, and it immediately became one of my all-time favorite books. Despite being over 900 pages, it never drags; it's enormously entertaining, thrilling, adventurous, funny, charming, heartbreaking; it features great dialogue, great characterization, great writing. I'm usually wary of buying movies or television shows if I've never seen them, but the mini-series featured such an amazing cast (Robert Duvall, Tommy Lee Jones, Chris Cooper, Danny Glover, Diane Lane, Angelica Huston, Steve Buscemi) and the source material was so strong that I felt that there was just no way it couldn't be worth the $9.99 or whatever I paid for it.
Not only did the mini-series meet my expectations, it greatly surpassed them. Duvall and Tommy Lee Jones were both perfect for the lead roles. Their physical characteristics don't match the descriptions in the book, but both actors nailed the essence of Augustus and Captain Call and brought their spirits to life. I'm actually in the process of reading the prequels at the moment --- I just finished Dead Man's Walk a few days ago and I'm now a few chapters into Comanche Moon--- and even though the characters are much younger in the prequels, I can't help but picture Robert Duvall and Tommy Lee Jones as I'm reading, since, in my eyes, they simply are Augustus McCrae and Woodrow Call. It would have been impossible to condense the novel into a standard film without omitting everything that made the book a masterpiece, and the mini-series, even at eight hours in length, still glosses over a few key points and fails to provide the same level of characterization for the side characters. However, Lonesome Dove is still one of the most faithful adaptations I've seen, right up there with The Lord of the Rings Trilogy. It's also one of the greatest mini-series I've ever seen, as well as one of the greatest westerns. Excellent stuff.
Louie was my #24. I've been watching the show since it premiered, and although every episode always succeeded in making me laugh at least once or twice, I never loved the show as much as I wanted to. That changed with season four. Louis C.K.'s hiatus from the show seemed to strengthen his focus and he returned as a better writer and director. I know quite a few people lamented the loss of laughs during this past season, since the show often felt more like a drama than a comedy, but I thought it was the best season of the show by far. Instead of being a show that I simply liked, Louie finally transformed into a show that I loved. The decision to aim for longer arcs and continuity, something the show seemed to abhor in the beginning, allowed for a deeper level of emotional involvement. The multi-episode stretches of "Elevator" and "Pamela" were phenomenal. "In the Woods" was basically a short film, but it was also fantastic and featured a great performance from Jeremy Renner. Since the beginning, Louie has been one of the bravest and most daring comedies on television, and the writing has always felt smarter and more honest (and much more self-loathing) than any of its competitors. For those who haven't seen it, I highly recommend it, since I think it's the kind of show that would appeal to many on this forum.
TylerDurden99
10-28-14, 02:01 AM
Yay, another one from my list! I had MASH at #9.
I've seen every episode of MASH more times than I can count. It's my parents' favourite show and along with That '70's Show, it's the show where I've seen every episode more times than any other series. I love all of the characters (excluding Klinger) and I especially loved Hawkeye. Ever since I first the show, I modelled my real-life personality after Alan Alda's fantastic portrayal of Hawkeye.
When I was younger, I didn't really like the later seasons and how serious they were, but as I got older, I really started to appreciate them a lot more. The episode where Hawkeye pressures Radar into going to Seoul for a bit of rest and recreation, and Radar comes back as a casualty is one of the greatest episodes of any tv series I've ever seen. There's so much brilliantly realised character moments in that episode, and in the show in general.
And Frank Burns is one of tv's funniest creations ever.
Frightened Inmate No. 2
10-28-14, 02:02 AM
Parks and Rec was my #16. It's never really made me laugh a whole lot and I prefer The Office, but at its best it has endlessly entertaining and lovable characters. I'm still only halfway through season 5 and I think it lost something after season 3, but it's still likable. Ben kind of bores me though.
Haven't seen a ton of MASH but I've liked what I have seen.
christine
10-28-14, 05:07 AM
Not seen Parks and Rec but MASH is an excellent series.
R.P. McMurphy
10-28-14, 05:41 AM
I enjoyed your write up on Lonesome Dove, Captain Spaulding. I guess I have a very near and dear place in my heart for this mini-series and it's really cool to read the comments and observations of other fans of it. It seems to be one of those pieces of work that really strikes a chord with people. I had always been under the impression that it was a mini-series that time had forgotten but from what I have seen and read here from other members regarding the series, that is very much not the case. The love for Lonesome Dove is alive and well!
R.P. McMurphy
10-28-14, 05:45 AM
Not to make you all jealous or anything, but I have a black and white still shot from the series of Duvall and Jones sitting on their horses and it is autographed by both actors :D It is one of my prized possessions I have hanging on the wall in my home.
Holden Pike
10-28-14, 10:34 AM
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I had "Parks and Recreation" as my number twenty. Love that show. Its final season will start airing probably in January or February sometime, and it'll be fun to see how they wrap it up after accelerating the timeline in the closing minute of last season's finale. So many incredible cast members, and after it wraps you know each and every one of them will have more opportunities in the coming years.
It took "Parks" a while to find their footing. That initial six-episode order was too centered on Lesley, understandably, and Greg Daniels and Michael Schur didn't yet know how to distinguish its rhythms and style from "The Office". Also, I like Paul Schneider as an actor, but his character wasn't given anything to do or anywhere to grow. Once his Mark Brendanawicz was out and Rob Lowe and Adam Scott joined the series in that second season, that's where it all started to truly click. For me, "The Hunting Trip", the tenth episode of season two, is where they creatively hit the right tone and started using every piece of the great ensemble. Once they did that, it just got exponentially better and better.
Really excited for these last thirteen episodes of the abbreviated season seven, even though it will be sad to say goodbye to Pawnee, Indiana.
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My List...
1. "The Rockford Files" (#64)
4. "Curb Your Enthusiasm" (#70)
7. "The Larry Sanders Show" (#99)
12. "Lonesome Dove" (#60)
14. "The Colbert Report" (#81)
20. "Parks and Recreation" (#58)
25. "Have Gun - Will Travel" (DNP)
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Not as bad as Community, though. Think I started/stopped that show three times.
You are history's greatest monster.
Thursday Next
10-28-14, 05:03 PM
I like Parks and Rec a whole lot. I wasn't sure about it after a couple of episodes since it seemed like just another mockumentary sitcom, but it grew on me. Ron Swanson is obviously the best, but there's a whole ensemble of great characters. It does get a bit cheesy at times, but it balances out. I had it at #14.
The Gunslinger45
10-28-14, 05:12 PM
MASH is good but did not vote for it. Have not seen Parks and Recreation.
Sexy Celebrity
10-28-14, 08:29 PM
M*A*S*H is one of those shows that I haven't seen a lot of, but I've seen more than just a teeny tiny bit of, and I liked what I saw, yet I'm not really sure why, I don't think it really deserves to be that well liked because I didn't really notice much going on for it.
I think I just like it because of the army theme and because it's very 1970s. I like the theme song. I remember years ago, I'd be up all night, on the computer, and my TV would be on, and M*A*S*H would come on really late at night. 2 or 3:00 in the morning. And that theme song would play and it was soothing. Sort of like a bedtime lullaby. I was shocked when I later heard actual lyrics to that theme song and it was about suicide, of all things.
rauldc14
10-28-14, 09:10 PM
I think M*A*S*H has made me cry more than any other tv show other than maybe Little House. Some of the episodes were devastating.
Speaking of little house, where is it?
Godoggo
10-28-14, 09:14 PM
I enjoyed your write up on Lonesome Dove, Captain Spaulding. I guess I have a very near and dear place in my heart for this mini-series and it's really cool to read the comments and observations of other fans of it. It seems to be one of those pieces of work that really strikes a chord with people. I had always been under the impression that it was a mini-series that time had forgotten but from what I have seen and read here from other members regarding the series, that is very much not the case. The love for Lonesome Dove is alive and well!
Yeah, it was such a nice surprise for me and I'll never forget my first time watching it. It was such a let down when it was over, not because it let me down, but because it was over and I wasn't ready to not be in that world anymore. It was like feeling when you reach the end of a really good book that you couldn't put down but you didn't want to finish too fast.
It has absolutely everything to offer. I don't know if I'd pick this or the Apostle as DuVall's best performance, but I certainly think it's Jones's.
Godoggo
10-28-14, 09:16 PM
Speaking of little house, where is it?
I will reveal nothing yet. ;)
Sexy Celebrity
10-28-14, 09:23 PM
Speaking of little house, where is it?
You know what I wanna see?
Little People, Little House on the Prairie.
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rauldc14
10-28-14, 09:29 PM
Where is Weeman? The jackass guy, I mean.
Sexy Celebrity
10-28-14, 09:38 PM
Where is Weeman? The jackass guy, I mean.
Below them. He got cut out of the picture.
Godoggo
10-28-14, 10:24 PM
56. Roseanne (1988- 1997)
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Theme Song (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1pyuhsyGXCY)
Quote: "I consider myself a good judge of people and that's why i don't like none of em." ~ Roseanne
Sitcom about a blue collar family with a wise cracking mother being the central figure.
Roseanne resonated with viewers because it was one of the only sitcoms to reflect the lives of the people watching it.
The show dealt with many real life issues and did so in a realistic manner.
Recasting: Lecy Goranson left in the fifth season to attend college and Sarah Chalke was given the role of Becky. The two actors then continued to alternate the roles based on Goranson's availability. It became a running joke on the show. This marks Sarah Chalk's second show to appear on the list.
What's his name? Those who have paid attention might remember that David was originally named Kevin. Roseanne had wanted the character to be named David but Johnny Galecki was playing a character named David on another sitcom. After that one was canceled his name was changed to David.
R.I.P Glenn Quinn who played Mark, died of a heroin overdose in 2002. He was also in the first season of Angel, so this is also his second appearance on the list.
Jump the shark moment: They win the lottery and The Conners become rich. Things got weirder and weirder after that leading to one of the most controversial finales in tv history.
Points: 68
Placements: 1 2nd, 1 11th, 1 7th, 1 16th
55. Six Feet Under (2001 - 2005)
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Theme Song (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=frWH6ZCJtyM)
Quote: If we live our lives the right way then everything we do can become a work of art.~ Claire
A dark comedy/drama that centers around a family running a funeral home.
Widely popular with the critics it also won nine Emmy's and is credited with having one of the best series finales of all time.
Style: Six Feet Under is often described as having magical realistic qualities. Rodriga Garcia; the son of famous magical realism novelist, Gabriel Garcia Marquez; even directed several episodes.
Eerie fact: Nikolai’s flower shop used to be a gas station. It was where James Dean filled up the day he crashed and died.
Points: 68
Placements: 1 18th, 1 20th, 1 15th, 1 22nd, 1 11th, 1 2nd
Sexy Celebrity
10-28-14, 10:29 PM
ROSEANNE!!!
#7 on my list.
Miss Vicky probably had it. I was trying to help the show get on the list because I like it, too.
I've been wondering recently if Roseanne would even make it.
cricket
10-28-14, 10:31 PM
I never considered voting for Roseanne because I probably only saw about a season's worth of shows. What I did see, I thought was outstanding.
Never saw Six Feet Under.
Miss Vicky
10-28-14, 10:31 PM
Roseanne only 56??
That's tragic. Yeah it got a little silly towards the end of its run, but in its prime Roseanne was the best, most realistic family sitcom I've ever seen. I really loved the sarcastic humor and the genuine love and affection each of the characters had for each other. I loved that Dan and Roseanne had a healthy sex life and that they bickered and struggled with normal things. I also loved how the show didn't shy away from featuring gay characters and did so in a way that showed them as normal people.
I had it at #2 on my list. It's one of the select few shows I truly love. If there's a rerun on when I'm channel surfing, I always stop and watch it, no matter how many times I've seen it before. And it never fails to make me laugh.
Six Feet Under was my #15. I binged watched it a couple years ago. Really great characters, well written, and interesting look at our current culture. Boy that ending was fantastic, maybe the best ever for a series.
Roseanne was a funny show for a couple of years but I hated the last few. Plus it is one of those comedies that doesn't hold up so well.
rauldc14
10-28-14, 10:33 PM
Did John Goodmans character die at the end?
Sexy Celebrity
10-28-14, 10:34 PM
R.I.P Glenn Quinn who played Mark, died of a heroin overdose in 2002. He was also in the first season of Angel, so this is also his second appearance on the list.
Hot guy. I was saddened to learn of his death. I made a R.I.P. thread for him here.
Jump the shark moment: They win the lottery and The Conners become rich. Things got weirder and weirder after that leading to one of the most controversial finales in tv history.
I hate practically all of the final season where they became rich. Even Jim Varney as Jackie's princely love interest didn't help it. And I really hate the final episode because, although it was kind of different and unique and I sort of liked it at the time... it also ruins the whole series. They should have a reunion show and just retcon that whole *****. Especially since the final episode was basically a retcon of the entire Roseanne series.
rauldc14
10-28-14, 10:34 PM
Roseanne only 56??
That's tragic. Yeah it got a little silly towards the end of its run, but in its prime Roseanne was the best, most realistic family sitcom I've ever seen. I really loved the sarcastic humor and the genuine love and affection each of the characters had for each other. I loved that Dan and Roseanne had a healthy sex life and that they bickered and struggled with normal things. I also loved how the show didn't shy away from featuring gay characters and did so in a way that showed them as normal people.
I had it at #2 on my list. It's one of the select few shows I truly love. If there's a rerun on when I'm channel surfing, I always stop and watch it, no matter how many times I've seen it before. And it never fails to make me laugh.
Maybe the gay character brought out the best in Darlene and David
Sexy Celebrity
10-28-14, 10:36 PM
And look at that. Miss Vicky actually likes a WOMAN!
rauldc14
10-28-14, 10:37 PM
Roseanne showing may end Family Matters chances. Damn.
Sexy Celebrity
10-28-14, 10:41 PM
I also loved how the show didn't shy away from featuring gay characters and did so in a way that showed them as normal people.
I liked Sandra Bernhard's character. Nancy.
http://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=18210&stc=1&d=1414546844
Straight one minute, gay the next.
Someone remind me about the Roseanne finale, I am blanking.
Sexy Celebrity
10-28-14, 10:48 PM
Someone remind me about the Roseanne finale, I am blanking.
The whole show turns out to be a book that Roseanne's been writing in a little spare room that Dan built for her in, like, the second season or something. The show dissolves into the "real Roseanne Connor's reality." And we find out things like they never really won the lottery... Jackie is really a lesbian... Becky actually married David, Darlene actually married Mark... and Dan did not survive his heart attack. He died. The show ended with the real Roseanne Connor finishing her book, retiring to her couch, alone. The house was back to normal (they no longer had anything fancy from winning the lottery). Roseanne Connor was just a poor woman who was now a widow.
In a way, it was a brilliant ending. In the long run. They really couldn't do a reunion show, unless they ignored it and did a Roseanne style reunion show where it took place in an alternate universe or something.
Godoggo
10-28-14, 10:50 PM
Roseanne only 56??
That's tragic. Yeah it got a little silly towards the end of its run, but in its prime Roseanne was the best, most realistic family sitcom I've ever seen. I really loved the sarcastic humor and the genuine love and affection each of the characters had for each other. I loved that Dan and Roseanne had a healthy sex life and that they bickered and struggled with normal things. I also loved how the show didn't shy away from featuring gay characters and did so in a way that showed them as normal people.
I had it at #2 on my list. It's one of the select few shows I truly love. If there's a rerun on when I'm channel surfing, I always stop and watch it, no matter how many times I've seen it before. And it never fails to make me laugh.
I completely agree. The last season doesn't take away what came before which was funny sitcom with real people about real things.
Apparently Roseanne was a nightmare to work with for the producers but for the rest of the cast she became a surrogate mother to the kids and loyal friend to the others. I respect her for what she did because she stuck to her guns and wouldn't do anything that she felt hurt the show's integrity.
It was a groundbreaking show in a lot of ways. It dealt with a lot of issues that most shows wouldn't touch at the time. The show got a lot of criticism for it, but it's what made the show better than most. Real teenagers are dealing with sex, sometimes people don't have enough money to pay the electric bill, gay people are more than just a joke and sometimes the good kid does end up with the bad guy and the parents have to learn to deal with it.
I respect the show a lot. Not only that, but it was really funny. It's my #11
That doesn't sound horrendous. It obviously didn't stick with me though. I was so over that show by the time the lottery stuff happened. I know I stuck it out however.
rauldc14
10-28-14, 10:51 PM
I thought Dan died. I thought I remembered that.
honeykid
10-28-14, 10:52 PM
Two great programmes here. I was with Roseanne from episode one, but I lost track of it at some point. Maybe season 6? I'm not sure. I did see some episodes in the last season, but it was awful. Same thing happened in Only Fools & Horses.
I didn't see any of Six Feet Under until after it'd finished. I've seen the first couple of seasons and they're terrific. I really do need to finish it.
Despite loving both these shows, neither were on my list. Still haven't had one show yet. :D
Godoggo
10-28-14, 10:54 PM
The whole show turns out to be a book that Roseanne's been writing in a little spare room that Dan built for her in, like, the second season or something. The show dissolves into the "real Roseanne Connor's reality." And we find out things like they never really won the lottery... Jackie is really a lesbian... Becky actually married David, Darlene actually married Mark... and Dan did not survive his heart attack. He died. The show ended with the real Roseanne Connor finishing her book, retiring to her couch, alone. The house was back to normal (they no longer had anything fancy from winning the lottery). Roseanne Connor was just a poor woman who was now a widow.
In a way, it was a brilliant ending. In the long run. They really couldn't do a reunion show, unless they ignored it and did a Roseanne style reunion show where it took place in an alternate universe or something.
I still don't know what to think of the finale. The first time I saw it I hated it. The more I think about it, it's kind of a good idea, but I still don't think it worked out very well.
Maybe if that last season hadn't of been so weird and awful, it would have played better.
I don't know, but it is still one of the best sitcoms of all time.
rauldc14
10-28-14, 10:54 PM
Two great programmes here. I was with Roseanne from episode one, but I lost track of it at some point. Maybe season 6? I'm not sure. I did see some episodes in the last season, but it was awful. Same thing happened in Only Fools & Horses.
I didn't see any of Six Feet Under until after it'd finished. I've seen the first couple of seasons and they're terrific. I really do need to finish it.
Despite loving both these shows, neither were on my list. Still haven't had one show yet. :D
And you wont:D. Well except Buffy.
rauldc14
10-28-14, 10:55 PM
This also ends Full Houses chance.
Unless my Willy Wonka scenario works out.
gbgoodies
10-28-14, 10:56 PM
56. Roseanne (1988- 1997)
55. Six Feet Under (2001 - 2005)
I was a big fan of "Roseanne" when the show first started, and I watched it faithfully every week. It was a show that I could relate to because it was like watching a show about my own family. We weren't as "hick" as them, but we pretty much acted the same way they did.
Then, when they won the lottery, they didn't just "jump the shark", but they nose-dived into the water afterwards and got eaten by the shark. :( It quickly went from being one of the best shows on TV to one of the worst shows on TV. If the show had ended just before they won the lottery, it would have deserved to be on this list, but in its entirety, with the final seasons, it doesn't deserve a place on this list.
I've never seen "Six Feet Under".
Somebody loved some TGIF.;)
honeykid
10-28-14, 10:57 PM
And you wont:D. Well except Buffy.
:D I think I'll get four, with a possible two more.
Sexy Celebrity
10-28-14, 10:58 PM
I still don't know what to think of the finale. The first time I saw it I hated it. The more I think about it, it's kind of a good idea, but I still don't think it worked out very well.
Maybe if that last season hadn't of been so weird and awful, it would have played better.
I don't know, but it is still one of the best sitcoms of all time.
I don't like the last season very much, although, possibly that could change if I actually watched it all again, which I haven't in awhile.
The final episode does make up for it in a way, though. Everyone dreams of winning the lottery. Everyone imagines what they'd do. (Yes, I know the hip thing nowadays is to say you don't actually play the lottery because you're "smart" and know the odds of winning are against you, but a lot of people do play the lottery, especially poor people like the characters on Roseanne.)
The final season was about that kind of fantasy... and then the curtain's ripped away and it never actually happened. It was all a dream. Roseanne went back to being Roseanne. In a worse situation because now Roseanne was not only poor again, but widowed. The last season was like a dream with a hard dose of reality at the very end when we all wake up.
Always wanted to see Six Feet Under, hearing how great the ending is, but still haven't found the time.
rauldc14
10-28-14, 11:00 PM
Somebody loved some TGIF.;)
I lived on it.
Sexy Celebrity
10-28-14, 11:03 PM
I was a big fan of "Roseanne" when the show first started, and I watched it faithfully every week. It was a show that I could relate to because it was like watching a show about my own family. We weren't as "hick" as them, but we pretty much acted the same way they did.
I remember when I was in middle school and Roseanne was still new/on the air, I was made to feel uncool at the time because I said I liked it. I remember we all took this survey in class on what our favorite show was and when I said Roseanne, people said, "ewwww!" At least in my middle school at the time, liking that "hick" show was gross. The cool show was that stupid, totally forgotten about The Wayans Bros. *****.
Godoggo
10-28-14, 11:05 PM
I don't like the last season very much, although, possibly that could change if I actually watched it all again, which I haven't in awhile.
The final episode does make up for it in a way, though. Everyone dreams of winning the lottery. Everyone imagines what they'd do. (Yes, I know the hip thing nowadays is to say you don't actually play the lottery because you're "smart" and know the odds of winning are against you, but a lot of people do play the lottery, especially poor people like the characters on Roseanne.)
The final season was about that kind of fantasy... and then the curtain's ripped away and it never actually happened. It was all a dream. Roseanne went back to being Roseanne. In a worse situation because now Roseanne was not only poor again, but widowed. The last season was like a dream with a hard dose of reality at the very end when we all wake up.
Yeah, that's why I say I'm torn. When you write it out that way it sounds great, but actually watching it was just kind of weird. I don't know. Like I said, if the last season had worked better, the finale might have also.
Regardless, it's an amazing show and I'll always go back and revisit it from time to time.
On another note, I play the lottery occasionally.(Once or twice a month) I've never even come close to hitting. :(
rauldc14
10-28-14, 11:07 PM
I do not play the lottery but I gamble maybe once a month
Sexy Celebrity
10-28-14, 11:09 PM
http://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=18211&stc=1&d=1414548495
Leonardo DiCaprio was actually on Roseanne. See that boy sitting next to Darlene? (I outlined him in blue, obviously) I don't even think he says anything.
Tobey Maguire was on it, too. Both appeared in Season 3.
gbgoodies
10-28-14, 11:09 PM
I remember when I was in middle school and Roseanne was still new/on the air, I was made to feel uncool at the time because I said I liked it. I remember we all took this survey in class on what our favorite show was and when I said Roseanne, people said, "ewwww!" At least in my middle school at the time, liking that "hick" show was gross. The cool show was that stupid, totally forgotten about The Wayans Bros. *****.
I've never seen an episode of The Wayans Bros. so I can't really comment on it, but Roseanne was one of the few shows that I could watch with my parents because we all loved it. We saw something about our family in every episode. My father was the first one who noticed it during the very first episode when the kids left the house, and Roseanne said to Dan, something like, "Quick change the locks". :laugh:
rauldc14
10-28-14, 11:10 PM
http://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=18211&stc=1&d=1414548495
Leonardo DiCaprio was actually on Roseanne. See that boy sitting next to Darlene? (I outlined him in blue, obviously) I don't even think he says anything.
Tobey Maguire was on it, too. Both appeared in Season 3.
And George Clooney. You can't forget George Clooney.
Sexy Celebrity
10-28-14, 11:11 PM
And George Clooney. You can't forget George Clooney.
Eh. George Clooney's been in everything. He was even on The Golden Girls. This, though, is Leonardo DiCaprio BEFORE he was Leonardo DiCaprio.
What is Leonardo DiCaprio before he is Leonardo DiCaprio?
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-46_qfyY4HO4/Ucnwh6I7fQI/AAAAAAAADC4/JhpswLAz97o/s1600/philosopher+v2.jpg
Sexy Celebrity
10-28-14, 11:13 PM
Leonardo DiCaprio silently sitting next to Sara Gilbert (pre-coming out as a lesbian) and not getting to say anything.
gbgoodies
10-28-14, 11:14 PM
I don't like the last season very much, although, possibly that could change if I actually watched it all again, which I haven't in awhile.
The final episode does make up for it in a way, though. Everyone dreams of winning the lottery. Everyone imagines what they'd do. (Yes, I know the hip thing nowadays is to say you don't actually play the lottery because you're "smart" and know the odds of winning are against you, but a lot of people do play the lottery, especially poor people like the characters on Roseanne.)
The final season was about that kind of fantasy... and then the curtain's ripped away and it never actually happened. It was all a dream. Roseanne went back to being Roseanne. In a worse situation because now Roseanne was not only poor again, but widowed. The last season was like a dream with a hard dose of reality at the very end when we all wake up.
The problem with them winning the lottery was that they were no longer a family that average people could relate to, and because of that, the show just wasn't funny anymore. Prior to them winning, most people could relate to their everyday struggles because we all went through the same types of things in our own lives.
It might have been okay if they had done the lottery thing as a fantasy arc for a few episodes, but it didn't work when the characters changed for the rest of the run of the show because of it.
gbgoodies
10-28-14, 11:17 PM
Does anyone remember this kid on "Roseanne"?
http://i.imgur.com/s0BsBKP.jpg
Godoggo
10-28-14, 11:17 PM
http://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=18211&stc=1&d=1414548495
Leonardo DiCaprio was actually on Roseanne. See that boy sitting next to Darlene? (I outlined him in blue, obviously) I don't even think he says anything.
Tobey Maguire was on it, too. Both appeared in Season 3.
I've never noticed that.
Godoggo
10-28-14, 11:18 PM
Does anyone remember this kid on "Roseanne"?
http://i.imgur.com/s0BsBKP.jpg
I forgot all about him! So he's appeared twice now on the list as well. He wasn't in many episodes though.
gbgoodies
10-28-14, 11:21 PM
I forgot all about him! So he's appeared twice now on the list as well. He wasn't in many episodes though.
According to IMDB, Joseph Gordon-Levitt was in 4 episodes of "Roseanne".
Sexy Celebrity
10-28-14, 11:23 PM
The problem with them winning the lottery was that they were no longer a family that average people could relate to, and because of that, the show just wasn't funny anymore. Prior to them winning, most people could relate to their everyday struggles because we all went through the same types of things in our own lives.
It might have been okay if they had done the lottery thing as a fantasy arc for a few episodes, but it didn't work when the characters changed for the rest of the run of the show because of it.
I didn't like it, either... although there were some good moments. I liked when they went to Disney Land. That stands out.
It was just a chance to see them all in a totally different way of life. They knew it was the final season. They thought they were having fun with it. It sucked at the time, but as time passes, maybe it'll look better. They had a dream season. They stopped being poor for a moment and showed the Connors having the good life. Showed how different it can be to be rich. In a way, it was probably very honest of Roseanne. SHE was rich. She was a rich woman who had it all. She knew what it was like to be rich. She was saying, "I'm gonna stop pretending to be poor for a moment and show you what it's like to have everything." Because although you can relate to the Roseanne show, the real Roseanne was still experiencing something else outside of this. Something better, something poor people cannot have. She did the Roseanne show to reflect her life, especially the life before she became famous. Having Roseanne Connor become a millionaire reflected how Roseanne Barr was now living. It showed how -- in very RARE instances -- you can go from rags to riches. But then she ended the show by bringing it back to where it started. Back to square one. Back to poverty. Which can happen, too. You can go from rags to riches to rags. Or, you can stay in rags and just fantasize about riches.
rauldc14
10-28-14, 11:24 PM
Roseanne commentary!
rauldc14
10-28-14, 11:24 PM
Or Golden Girls commentary too.
Godoggo
10-28-14, 11:27 PM
I forgot to say anything about Six Feet Under It seems like my kind of show and from what I've seen it is, but I just never got around to seriously watching it. Hopefully I get to it one day instead of watching all this stuff now I only half like.
rauldc14
10-28-14, 11:36 PM
Coming soon: Mother of God Rauls 100 TV Shows
The Gunslinger45
10-28-14, 11:38 PM
Voted for neither.
Sexy Celebrity
10-28-14, 11:45 PM
Coming soon: Mother of God Rauls 100 TV Shows
Please do it. I was going to, but then I decided I didn't want to.
rauldc14
10-28-14, 11:49 PM
Please do it. I was going to, but then I decided I didn't want to.
Alright. I'll do it on Friday. Be prepared for randomness.
Harry Lime
10-28-14, 11:55 PM
You are history's greatest monster.
You sound like my parents.
Frightened Inmate No. 2
10-29-14, 01:24 AM
i just started six feet under last week and i'm three episodes into it. really like it so far.
haven't seen much of roseanne but i'm sure it's fine.
christine
10-29-14, 03:03 AM
Never seen Six Feet Under, I might give it a go as a lot of people I know like it . Roseanne was great. Never watched it faithfully but whenever I did I used to think what an excellent woman she was!
Holden Pike
10-29-14, 08:53 AM
"Roseanne" was a great show, and even an important one, in the way "All in the Family" was important. But it didn't quite make my list. The only reason for that is the unwatchable final season. I barely even care about the wretched, dour final moments that have already been described above, as it was off the reservation long before that. When I think of the show in my heart, I just pretend that final batch of episodes never even happened...but I can't do that for a list like this. And so as brilliant as that show is (and it is brilliant), the ninth season drags down its legacy, slightly. Enough for it to miss my top twenty-five.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TS_aaBTO32c
As for "Six Feet Under", it's a show I respect a lot, but one that I never connected with, emotionally.
Miss Vicky
10-29-14, 11:20 AM
If the show had ended just before they won the lottery, it would have deserved to be on this list, but in its entirety, with the final seasons, it doesn't deserve a place on this list.
Roseanne ran for nine seasons and you think that just because one of those seasons sucked it doesn't "deserve" a place on this list? Because apparently all the brilliance of those other eight seasons mean nothing if the last season wasn't so good.
That's a crock of crap.
honeykid
10-29-14, 02:03 PM
i just started six feet under last week and i'm three episodes into it. really like it so far.
Dammit, FI2. Stop liking things I like. You're starting to scare me. :D
Thursday Next
10-29-14, 02:20 PM
I really liked the first season of Six Feet Under but at some point I lost track of it. I liked the Fishers but I didn't really like Brenda.
You sound like my parents.
I'll bet if we shaved your head we'd find "666--oh, and The Wire is overrated."
Roseanne ran for nine seasons and you think that just because one of those seasons sucked it doesn't "deserve" a place on this list? Because apparently all the brilliance of those other eight seasons mean nothing if the last season wasn't so good.
That's a crock of crap.
I'm not really sure there's a right or wrong way to weigh a show's heights against its depths. It's a legitimately tricky question, especially if someone views a show as an ongoing narrative and not a series of standalone stories. In those cases, a bad "ending" can spoil a lot of what came before. Roseanne is both an ongoing story and an episodic comedy, so it might be an unusually tricky case.
Out of the last four i've only seen Six Feet Under. Like HK i've only seen the first two seasons, which i really liked i just haven't returned to it yet. Also agreed TN i never really cared for Brendas character, at first i was hoping that she'd only be a main character for the First Season.
Miss Vicky
10-29-14, 03:14 PM
I'm not really sure there's a right or wrong way to weigh a show's heights against its depths. It's a legitimately tricky question, especially if someone views a show as an ongoing narrative and not a series of standalone stories. In those cases, a bad "ending" can spoil a lot of what came before. Roseanne is both an ongoing story and an episodic comedy, so it might be an unusually tricky case.
I think it's ridiculous to call yourself a fan of a show and then turn around and say "it doesn't belong on this countdown." I don't have a problem with someone saying that the final season was bad enough for them to leave it off their own ballot but to say that it doesn't "deserve" to be here at all? That's BS.
Citizen Rules
10-29-14, 03:27 PM
The problem with them winning the lottery was that they were no longer a family that average people could relate to, and because of that, the show just wasn't funny anymore. Prior to them winning, most people could relate to their everyday struggles because we all went through the same types of things in our own lives.
I never seen Rosanne. What GBG wrote is true of many tv shows.
The average person can't relate to the wealthy and ultra powerful that get portrayed in many TV shows.
Shows like Rosanne give us regular folks a sitcom we can relate to. That's why I like Laverne & Shirley. They're poor working class girls just trying to make ends meet, in their run down basement apartment. They ain't fancy, there not glamorous, there not smart, there not lawyers or doctors.
Sexy Celebrity
10-29-14, 04:31 PM
I am really interested in watching that final season of Roseanne again. I think I'll watch them on Youtube or something, if I can. The "Disney Land Episode" I mentioned was actually in Season 8. I was reading episode descriptions of Season 9. Some of them I don't think I've seen, but I have seen most of them. They weren't all that bad. Dan has an affair on Roseanne.
I always liked the lottery twist. I love it when they discover they've won the lottery. What I didn't like about Season 9 was all the "fantasy" episodes that it had. Like apparently there's an episode where Roseanne saves Hillary Clinton and Steven Seagal was a guest star. I don't remember seeing that one. I also hated the Halloween one, which saw Roseanne hanging out with the girls from Absolutely Fabulous, a show I've never been crazy about (though a lot of people are crazy about it). But there were some good parts -- Dan cheats on Roseanne, Darlene gives birth, I think even Roseanne's mother comes out as a lesbian in that season. Maybe? That might be season 8. D.J. got a girlfriend.
The final episode is nice. It helps if you look at it as -- Dan died from his heart attack at the end of Season 8. Roseanne, grief stricken and depressed out of her mind, went to her spare room, got on the typewriter and wrote the entire Roseanne show as a book to stop thinking about all the pain she was going through. The final episode was pulling back and revealing this, revealing that it was all a book with some changes made and the last part where they win the lottery was all a fantasy. A way for Dan to stay alive, through the book. It might not have been the best television, but it was a great story and a very interesting plot twist for a final episode.
The show really ended in Season 8. Season 9 was all a twist. It was a way to deepen the story, an unusual twist to deal with the death of Dan. Had it been more straightforward, Dan would have died at the end of Season 8 and Season 9 would have just been seeing Roseanne in a deep depression. She mentioned never coming out of her room. That would have been worse to watch all season.
honeykid
10-29-14, 05:54 PM
Ab Fab is great. I was very tempted to put it on my list, but I've only seen a few episodes in the last 10 or so years.
Sexy Celebrity
10-29-14, 06:02 PM
Ab Fab is great. I was very tempted to put it on my list, but I've only seen a few episodes in the last 10 or so years.
I like Patsy Stone.
http://bendphillips.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/tumblr_lxj3zol7st1qbe82eo1_500.gif
The other woman, though, flat out sucks. The show as a whole has never worked with me. I've given it many chances. Occasionally Patsy Stone does something that makes me laugh, but that's all I've felt for it. Don't understand all the hype and how it's supposed to be the best thing ever.
christine
10-29-14, 06:26 PM
I like Patsy Stone.
http://bendphillips.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/tumblr_lxj3zol7st1qbe82eo1_500.gif
The other woman, though, flat out sucks. The show as a whole has never worked with me. I've given it many chances. Occasionally Patsy Stone does something that makes me laugh, but that's all I've felt for it. Don't understand all the hype and how it's supposed to be the best thing ever.
Jennifer Saunders sucks?? :eek: no chance!
honeykid
10-29-14, 08:06 PM
I don't know if there'd be a Samantha Jones without a Patsy Stone, so it's not a surprise that you like that character, SC.
MovieGal
10-29-14, 08:08 PM
I've never noticed that.
Leo was on "Growing Pains" as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXiSQqq9Vss
Kicking myself for forgetting Parks and Rec. Sorry Ron. I had Six Feet Under at #2, I think you missed that in the placements! I love that show so much. Just one of the best things ever.
Godoggo
10-29-14, 09:36 PM
Kicking myself for forgetting Parks and Rec. Sorry Ron. I had Six Feet Under at #2, I think you missed that in the placements! I love that show so much. Just one of the best things ever.
Your right, I accidentally left that off, but I went back and edited it in.
It was counted point wise, so don't worry. :)
Godoggo
10-29-14, 10:22 PM
54. The Walking Dead (2010 -)
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Theme Song (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=csRuImS8e-M)
Quote: These people are my family, and if you hurt them in any way, I will kill you. - Rick
A dramatic science fiction series that follows a group of survivors after a zombie epidemic.
It is the most watched dramatic series ever to be broadcast on basic cable.
Origin: The Walking Dead is based on a graphic novel of the same name. While it loosely follows the same story line, many of the characters in the show met different fates than they did in the comic and some even have distinctly different personalities. Daryl was a character written specifically for Norman Reedus and doesn't appear in the novel at all.
Walking Dead/Breaking Bad connection? Many fans have theorized that the two shows are somehow connected. The basis for this theory? Glenn steals a Dodge Challenger that looks exactly like the one in Breaking Bad. There is also the drug connection. Daryl's description of his brother's drug dealer sounded very much like Jessie and at one point Meryl has a bag of drugs, some of which are blue.
Spin-off? Sort of. A pilot is being made for another group of survivors in a different setting. It's part of the Walking Dead world, but since there will be no character cross over it's not technically a spin-off.
Points: 70
Placements: 2 17th, 2 21st, 1 23rd, 1 22nd, 1 15th, 1 2nd
53. Peep Show (2003 - )
http://i62.tinypic.com/2zp0fi9.jpg
Theme Song (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1DcGevY1fFE)
Quote: Socks before or after trousers, but never socks before pants, that's the rule - makes a man look scary, like a chicken. ~ Mark
British sitcom about two men with opposite personalities that share a flat.
P.O.V: Almost every shot is from a character's point of view. Also almost every scene has Mark or Jeremy or both.
Influences: The American comic "Hate" and Seinfeld.
Points: 71
Placements: 1 9th, 1 15th, 1 13th, 1 4th, 2 22nd
Frightened Inmate No. 2
10-29-14, 10:25 PM
i watched the walking dead for the first three seasons but then i gave up because it was so bad. never seen peep show but it looks good.
gbgoodies
10-29-14, 10:25 PM
I think it's ridiculous to call yourself a fan of a show and then turn around and say "it doesn't belong on this countdown." I don't have a problem with someone saying that the final season was bad enough for them to leave it off their own ballot but to say that it doesn't "deserve" to be here at all? That's BS.
That's just my opinion. You may not agree with it, but I'm still entitled to it.
cricket
10-29-14, 10:28 PM
I never saw The Walking Dead and I never heard of that Peep Show.
Still riding a goose egg
The Gunslinger45
10-29-14, 10:29 PM
Watched the first season of The Walking Dead and abandoned that ship after I got into the comic series (which IMO is way better).
Have not seen Peep Show.
Miss Vicky
10-29-14, 10:43 PM
WTF is Peep Show?
rauldc14
10-29-14, 10:43 PM
Peep Show looks bad, but I haven't seen it.
honeykid
10-29-14, 10:50 PM
Watched the first episode of The Walking Dead. That was enough. Not that it was bad, just that I wasn't interested.
I've yet to watch an episode of Peep Show, but I hate the POV of it.
Godoggo
10-29-14, 10:51 PM
I gave The Walking Dead five points, but I'm still very wish washy on the show. It has it's share of problems but something keeps me coming back. In the fourth season there were some of the best moments yet.
I also think the graphic novel is better but I'm starting to feel that may have run it's course as well unless they finally start moving towards rebuilding society. The last villain was just a crueler, more foul-mouthed reincarnation of the Governor.
I wonder what would happen if what happens in the novel happened on the show. There would probably be an uprising. ;)
I'm rewatching it in syndication and it's on right now as I type. t's almost to the episode where we find out what happens to Sophia. That was a pretty big moment. :(
Never heard of Peep Show.
MovieMeditation
10-29-14, 10:57 PM
Saw 4 episodes of The Walking Dead and liked only the pilot. Rest was pretty bad and never thought about revisiting the series...
Derek Vinyard
10-29-14, 10:59 PM
Glad to see The Walking Dead here but very too low .... it's an awesome TV-Show.
gbgoodies
10-29-14, 11:08 PM
54. The Walking Dead (2010 -)
53. Peep Show (2003 - )
I've heard a little bit about "The Walking Dead", but it never sounded like my kind of show, so I haven't seen it.
I've never heard of "Peep Show".
My friend loves Peep Show. Never seen it myself.
I watched the first two and a half seasons of The Walking Dead. Meh. Too much overacting.
Iroquois
10-29-14, 11:24 PM
I almost put Peep Show on my list, but ultimately decided that while i generally liked it, I didn't quite rate it as a favourite. To elaborate on what Godoggo put in the actual entry, it's superficially a fairly typical "odd couple" kind of scenario where one flatmate's a buttoned-down straight man and the other's an immature man-child and they're both constantly navigating everyday problems (often of the socially awkward variety - the tone of the humour is comparable to stuff like Curb your Enthusiasm). The gimmick, as it were, of having the whole show filmed from different character's points of view using head-mounted cameras may make or break the show for some viewers, but I personally prefer it because it allows for some rapid-fire exchanges and also the main characters' inner monologues can often be just as funny as anything happening in the outside world. Obviously, I recommend it to all of you who haven't heard of it, but be warned - it can be...uncomfortable.
I don't care about The Walking Dead.
Godoggo
10-29-14, 11:34 PM
I almost put Peep Show on my list, but ultimately decided that while i generally liked it, I didn't quite rate it as a favourite. To elaborate on what Godoggo put in the actual entry, it's superficially a fairly typical "odd couple" kind of scenario where one flatmate's a buttoned-down straight man and the other's an immature man-child and they're both constantly navigating everyday problems (often of the socially awkward variety - the tone of the humour is comparable to stuff like Curb your Enthusiasm). The gimmick, as it were, of having the whole show filmed from different character's points of view using head-mounted cameras may make or break the show for some viewers, but I personally prefer it because it allows for some rapid-fire exchanges and also the main characters' inner monologues can often be just as funny as anything happening in the outside world. Obviously, I recommend it to all of you who haven't heard of it, but be warned - it can be...uncomfortable.
I don't care about The Walking Dead.
Your post gives me a lot more insight about it than anything else I read on it. Most of the shows I haven't seen I have a pretty clear idea what it's like after posting its entry. This one I was still kind of perplexed about.
honeykid
10-29-14, 11:37 PM
It has a really strong and devout following over here. I think it might be the longest running sitcom here atm, too.
Iroquois
10-29-14, 11:53 PM
Your post gives me a lot more insight about it than anything else I read on it. Most of the shows I haven't seen I have a pretty clear idea what it's like after posting its entry. This one I was still kind of perplexed about.
Not a problem. I'm sure Holden Pike will elaborate on it even further the next time he posts in here.
Godoggo
10-29-14, 11:55 PM
Yeah, I think I read that. The way it was worded I wasn't sure if it was the longest running sitcom in general or just on Channel 4.
donniedarko
10-30-14, 12:10 AM
Oh ya, Peep Show over Walking Dead. I'm the one who had it at 4th, I think I'll elaborate a bit on this one later.
Godoggo
10-30-14, 12:19 AM
Just a fair warning, the next two entries may be an hour or two late tomorrow, but they will be posted. One of the entries is someone's top pick and someone else's second so make sure to check and see if it's yours. :)
Guaporense
10-30-14, 01:34 AM
The Walking Dead is very low on this list I think. Considering the show's enormous popularity, well the same can be said by House though I am not an specialist in American TV since I watched it mostly between 2004 and 2011, so I became familiar with the modern shows only.
Guaporense
10-30-14, 01:40 AM
I watched the first two and a half seasons of The Walking Dead. Meh. Too much overacting.
Overacting, that's the good stuff! Walking Dead is cool because it's completely over the top: civilization ends, 99.9% of humanity is dead and the few that remain try to survive while killing each other like they were flies. Overacting comes with the package, in fact, it's natural that people become more dramatic given the circumstances they are facing.
Captain Spaulding
10-30-14, 01:57 AM
I underestimated the popularity of The Walking Dead, since I thought it would be borderline top ten. It was my #21. I think the show has suffered from so many changes behind the scenes, since every season seems to have a different show-runner, but I think it has slowly improved over the years. The show has always struggled with characterization, but luckily it has gotten rid of its most annoying characters. The show does action exceptionally well, and the finales and big moments are often tense and edge-of-your seat exciting. The special-effects and gore makeup have always been top notch. When the plot bogs down and the characters find themselves in one location with little threat to their safety beyond easily-disposed-of "walkers," things can get boring as hell, but when show stops trying to be character-driven and goes full on story mode, I think it can be very entertaining. Knowing that any character could die at any time raises the stakes, and the show has surprised me on several occasions over the years, which is a good thing. This season has gotten off to a particularly strong start. Plus I've just always liked zombies and apocalyptic scenarios, so it's cool to spend time in that world and play "what would I do?" over a long-running series instead of just the usual two-hour time-frame.
My List So Far:
#4) That 70's Show
#6) King of the Hill
#21) The Walking Dead
#23) Lonesome Dove
#24) Louie
Godoggo
10-30-14, 02:19 AM
It got better along the seasons at characterization or it would have lost me completely. I just can't stay with a show if I don't find the characters somewhat interesting. I think the edition of Michonne and the revamping of Carol's personality helped a lot. In the beginning seasons if it weren't for Glenn, Daryl and even Maggie horrendous as her accent may be, I don't think I would have stuck with it.
I thought it would place higher as well but the problem with The Walking Dead is that its weaknesses have always been so glaring that it keeps people from being terribly gung-ho about it. Still, it has improved quite a bit and is much better now than when it started. I'm hoping that has continued into this season. I'm waiting until mid-season so I can binge watch.
christine
10-30-14, 03:04 AM
The Walking Dead - Hurray! One of mine at last! Thought it'd be much higher than 54 tho. I had it at 17 . I love post apocalyptic fils/books/TV so I would always have been up for watching this . It's specially good now that us Brits are almost co-ordinated with the States, showing just a day later. Used to be so annoying seeing you all talking about the latest episode when we had to wait.
The main characters have grown over the course of the series, and there's still development going on.
Peep Show, I've seen it . Sometimes If I'm in the mood it's funny, but sometimes not. I can't decide ever whether I like David Mitchell as a comedian or not.
sarah f
10-30-14, 03:38 AM
I voted for Peep Show. I watched some YouTube clips to jog my memory while I was making my list and ended up getting lost in the YouTube vortex, watching Peep Show clips for ages. I'm also a big fan of Jesse Armstrong and Sam Bain's other show, Fresh Meat, about students just starting out at university. They do the awkward thing so well and it rings really honest to me, and they just write some really funny dialogue, I think. This line in particular has always resonated with me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93WRQ8HT_WA
Thursday Next
10-30-14, 05:26 AM
Peep Show looks bad, but I haven't seen it.
rauldc, are you being SC again? :rolleyes:
Peep Show is great. Admittedly it has gone on for so long that it has got a little bit ridiculous but it is still frequently hilarious. I had it as my #13, which makes 5 from my list so far. It's kind of difficult to describe the humour, it has that basic odd couple thing at the centre, it's got a lot of humour about awkwardness and things that are quite true to life, but at the same time it's more extreme and weird than your average sitcom.
Jeremy: Crunchy Nut Cornflakes are just Frosties for wankers.
Mark: Yeah well Frosties are just Cornflakes for people who can't face reality.
Tacitus
10-30-14, 05:58 AM
Peep Show, I've seen it . Sometimes If I'm in the mood it's funny, but sometimes not. I can't decide ever whether I like David Mitchell as a comedian or not.
I love David Mitchell as a comedian but couldn't decide over whether to include Peep Show in my list or not. I ended up not, but like the show a great deal.
Britcoms are great when it comes to uncomfortable humour - The (proper) Office, Partridge, Peep Show etc.
Skepsis93
10-30-14, 07:48 AM
Mitchell and Webb (especially the former) are two of Britain's greatest comic minds at the moment, but I can't say I'm much of a fan of Peep Show. I much prefer their sketch show, That Mitchell and Webb Look, and David Mitchell's brilliant appearances on QI and other panel shows.
teeter_g
10-30-14, 08:19 AM
It's hard to keep up with all this if you just check in ever now and then. LOL!
teeter_g
10-30-14, 08:24 AM
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22. Sons of Anarchy
23. The Walking Dead
24. Angel
25. Eric and Jessie: Game On
Sexy Celebrity
10-30-14, 08:46 AM
WTF is Peep Show?
I am a bit proud to say that I know the answer to this question. I've actually seen this show. At least, I did about ten years ago. Wasn't Peep Show on for a short time, and then it was cancelled and then they brought it back? I saw the Peep Show episodes that were pre-cancellation. None of the new stuff. My library at the time had Peep Show and it made me curious so I checked out the discs and watched them.
It's one of those trendy, popular-at-MoFo shows, like Northern Exposure. I had no idea it was when I saw it, but over the years, I have noticed Peep Show being brought up in conversation around here. I am not at all surprised to see it here, higher than my Golden Girls, no less.
I watched the first three seasond of Walking Dead and then just started to feel like I was wasting my time. I see why people love it though.
Never heard of Peep Show but it looks interesting to me but that could just be because godoggo mentioned Seinfeld and someone else mentioned Curb in relation to it.
Sexy Celebrity
10-30-14, 08:53 AM
http://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=18215&stc=1&d=1414669916http://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=18216&stc=1&d=1414669920
Peep Show has the British version of Matthew Broderick -- David Mitchell.
Sexy Celebrity
10-30-14, 08:58 AM
Hmmm, I don't think Peep Show was actually cancelled and came back. Well, I watched it in 2005, so I only saw what aired before then. It started in 2003. I thought it was a good show. I mean, I watched every episode I had available, which were a bunch of them, so that's saying something.
honeykid
10-30-14, 10:24 AM
Peep Show has never been cancelled. David Mitchell is not Matthew Broderick. He is brilliant, though I don't care greatly for his comedy with Robert Webb, thus far, bar the first series of That Mitchell & Webb Look. And even that goes downhill from sketch one, episode one. That said, it's a slow descent from a very high start.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5sw-RQotrk
Sexy Celebrity
10-30-14, 10:37 AM
David Mitchell is not Matthew Broderick.
He LOOKS like Matthew Broderick. Looks.
honeykid
10-30-14, 10:40 AM
Yeah, he doesn't look like him either.
Sexy Celebrity
10-30-14, 10:42 AM
Yeah, he doesn't look like him either.
Um, yes he does. Look at this. Get contacts. And get a better avatar, while you're at it.
http://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=18215&stc=1&d=1414669916http://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=18216&stc=1&d=1414669920
And I know I'm not the only one who sees it.
Sexy Celebrity
10-30-14, 10:50 AM
See? Look what I found.
http://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=18217&stc=1&d=1414677017
The internet agrees with me. I did not make this.
honeykid
10-30-14, 10:54 AM
I think the word similar is appropriate. His hair looks similar, as it is in colour. He's of a similar age. He's white and of similar build.... Ummm.. He has eyebrows. That's about it, I think.
He looks more like this now.
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02403/David-Mitchell_2403711b.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om7O0MFkmpw
honeykid
10-30-14, 10:55 AM
See? Look what I found.
http://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=18217&stc=1&d=1414677017
The internet agrees with me. I did not make this.
I didn't say others didn't think the same. I said they didn't look the same. That just means lots of people are wrong as well as you. :D
Sexy Celebrity
10-30-14, 10:55 AM
I didn't say they were identical twins! Similar / looks like / he is the British version of Matthew Broderick. It's all the same thing.
Yeah, because all white guys look alike. You're so racist Sexy.
Sexy Celebrity
10-30-14, 11:05 AM
Oh, give me a break. Look at the hairstyle. Look at the fat faces. Look at the eyes. The nose. The expression. The eyebrows. The skin tone.
God. Honeykid just wants to ruin the ability to look at two people and think they look alike, just like Honeykid ruins a lot of other things. Well, excuse me, but I have no free will and I cannot help if, when I look at David Mitchell, my brain computes, "This looks kind of like Matthew Broderick." And I wasn't the only computer that thought so. So shut up.
How did i manage to forget Peep Show :facepalm:. I really like Robert Webb, but it's David Mitchell who is one of my favourite human being. From Talk Shows and stuff it pretty much seems like Mark is an exaggerated version of David. Definetely one of the funniest British shows.
I watched the 1st Season of Walking Dead but just couldn't get into it.
Two more I haven't seen. So far only three from my list have shown up. :/
1. Avatar: The Last Airbender
20. I Love Lucy
22. The Andy Griffith Show
Holden Pike
10-30-14, 12:31 PM
http://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=18218&stc=1&d=1414682155
I love "Peep Show", which like "Curb Your Enthusiasm" and some of my other favorites is more brilliantly awkward uncomfortableness and characters getting caught being horrible people. Can't get enough of the misadventures of Mark Corrigan and Jez! Not to mention Sophie, Super Hans, Johnson, Big Suze, Dobby, and the rest! It sort of built to a natural conclusion in Season Four, with the wedding. But as perfect as that was (and the fifth episode of that series, "Holiday", may still be my all-time favorite), I am so glad they kept it going, letting these characters become more and more cowardly, selfish, insecure, and despicable, following their proclivities and weaknesses to the natural extremes, which makes them ever so enjoyable for me to watch.
I didn't start watching until the third season, as I feared the gimmick was too, well, gimmicky. If you don't know, everything the camera sees is from a character's point of view, often shifting many times in a scene, and this point of view perspective also lends itself to hearing character's thoughts as voice over. As unwieldy as that may seem, it is done not only seamlessly but rather brilliantly. Being able to hear interior monologue is a constant winner, as is the first person perspective.
I had "Peep Show" as my number nine overall pick. For me it is the best Britcom of the past fifteen years, surpassing "The Office' and "Spaced" and everything. Yeah, I like it that damn much.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkYHNO2vNG4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlXSoG2YI8Q
My list...
1. "The Rockford Files" (#64)
4. "Curb Your Enthusiasm" (#70)
7. "The Larry Sanders Show" (#99)
9. "Peep Show" (#53)
12. "Lonesome Dove" (#60)
14. "The Colbert Report" (#81)
20. "Parks and Recreation" (#58)
25. "Have Gun - Will Travel" (DNP)
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honeykid
10-30-14, 12:51 PM
Even as someone who's not seen an entire episode and doesn't like the POV, its use with an internal monologue does work very well indeed.
Sexy Celebrity
10-30-14, 01:06 PM
Even as someone who's not seen an entire episode and doesn't like the POV, its use with an internal monologue does work very well indeed.
You haven't even seen an entire episode of Peep Show? Then you are not the authority on David Mitchell's looks.
honeykid
10-30-14, 01:21 PM
Yeah, that's not the only programme he does over here. Also, I'm not an authority on his or anyone elses looks. I simply don't think they have more than a passing similarity. A bit like a lot of Ricky Gervais lookalikes are slightly fat white blokes with a small van Gogh ala David Brent.
Sexy Celebrity
10-30-14, 01:24 PM
Yeah, that's not the only programme he does over here.
Oh, you don't watch enough TV.
Chardee MacDennis
10-30-14, 03:03 PM
Idk i kind of agree with SC.
They do look pretty similar, the way they both have one nose which is above the mouth but below the eyes. They've both even got two ears.
What else do you want?
Godoggo
10-30-14, 04:33 PM
52. Puella Magi Madoka Magica (2011- )
http://i62.tinypic.com/34dlnau.jpg
Quote: Tiro Finale!
A Japanese animated series about school girls who are given the opportunity to become magical girls.
Latin, sort of: Puella Magi is latin for Magical Girl. However, the correct Latin would be Puella Maga.
Kajiuran: is a Latinesque made up language heard in the music.
Kyubey: A cat like creature which is a telepathic creature that grants the girls one wish if they become magical girls. It is supposed to be like a H.P Lovecraft character in that it is uninterested in human feelings.
Points: 74
Placements: 1 1st, 1 2nd , 1 18th, 1 9th
51. I'm Alan Partridge (1997- 2002)
http://i61.tinypic.com/fx4iuw.jpg
Theme Song (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gGI9L1wwlwY)
Quote: You work in a petrol station Michael. It's not the Gulf War. Which ironically is like a large petrol station. ~ Alan Partridge
British sit-com centered around Alan Partridge, a failed television presenter.
The series is preceded by Knowing Me Knowing You with Alan Partridge and is followed by Mid Morning Matters with Alan Partridg
Fernando: Alan's son. He's named after the Abba song of the same name.
Drama school: Simon Greenall (Michael) and Steve Coogan went to drama school together. Simon gave Steve his first break.
Points: 75
Placements: 1 20th, 1 8th, 1 7th, 1 4th , 1 16th
The Gunslinger45
10-30-14, 04:41 PM
Seen neither.
christine
10-30-14, 04:52 PM
Never heard of Puella Magi, but the thought of watching cartoon schoolgirls becoming magical girls fills me with dread :p
On the other hand Alan Partridge makes me laugh. I love him and his assistant Lynn. This one was my number 20
Tacitus
10-30-14, 04:56 PM
I'm Alan Partridge was my #4.
I first saw Coogan's creation when Alan was the sports presenter on The Day Today and something clicked. Unlike the rest of the Chris Morris vehicle, Partridge wasn't trying to be edgy or absurdest. He was a traditional sitcom character of the nerdy, gaff-prone, socially awkward variety.
Knowing Me, Knowing You followed and I loved it. Like The Day Today, KMKY was filmed as a faux TV show and that was the part which was holding Coogan back, for me. I wanted an unleashed Alan...
With I'm Alan Partridge I got precisely that. ;)
Season one is better than season two (something that Coogan and Iannucci agree on) in that it's less sitcom-y but I'd still happily watch it over 99% of other TV comedies. Partridge was both Coogan's finest creation and the albatross around his neck but he's become more at ease with the fact that he'll forever be remembered for the character as he's got older. In fact, the Mid Morning Matters show contained some quintessential Alan. It had a bittersweet tone that comes from a comedian approaching middle age (and fast approaching the age of Alan himself) and deserved a lot more praise than it received.
Even the film, Alpha Papa, was surprisingly not sh*t.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNDqzpgzdis
There's a little of Alan in all of us...
Thursday Next
10-30-14, 05:06 PM
Didn't vote for him in any of his incarnations, but I do like Alan Partridge. The film was surprisingly decent too.
Miss Vicky
10-30-14, 05:08 PM
Seen neither, interested in neither.
Sexy Celebrity
10-30-14, 05:08 PM
This is just disgusting.
DISGUSTING.
What the Hell is this *****?! Especially the first ... that Asian Wiccan show. Whatever it is.
Citizen Rules
10-30-14, 05:44 PM
Puella Magi Madoka Magica(2011- )
Placements: 1-1st, 1-2nd, 1-9th, 1-18th
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Really? 1 vote for 1st and 2nd???
Who wants to claim they voted for this show?
Are these 4 votes from members that are known here?
Sexy Celebrity
10-30-14, 05:46 PM
Probably wintertriangles.
Wiccans are cool.
That show...does not look up my alley at all.... as for who voted for it, clearly Guap was one of the people, as he has been talking about it for quite some time. He knows his anime, so there is probably something to it. Just not my thing, is all. Each, to his own.
I have never even heard of the other one!
I think I approached this list much differently than others. To me, no multi-camera sitcom is ever going to be as good as something like Breaking Bad, which is shot like a film using single camera, has much higher production values, and is overall just approached and written on a much more cinematic and engaging level. I dunno, I just dislike sitcoms I guess; every last one of them. I didn't consider anything like that for the list when I was able to choose from giant pool of extremely well-written and produced contemporary stuff, and classics like The Twilight Zone, which are still more engaging to me today than a lot of the lighter fare I was exposed to over the years. I am sure some of my listed shows will appear soon! Uh, right?
I had Madoka as my #2 choice. The #1 pick would definitely Guap's but I don't know who else voted for it.
R.P. McMurphy
10-30-14, 06:02 PM
I've never liked anime. I've seen ONE that I actually liked and I've seen quite a bit, as I have a couple friends that are really into it.(needless to say, friends I keep at arms length) For me, being heavily into anime is on par with being a juggalo. I can understand if you're 10 or 11 years old...but past a certain point, it's just sad to me. Just one man's opinion though. I will simply shake my head and move on.
Tacitus
10-30-14, 06:03 PM
I think I approached this list much differently than others. To me, no multi-camera sitcom is ever going to be as good as something like Breaking Bad, which is shot like a film using single camera, has much higher production values, and is overall just approached and written on a much more cinematic and engaging level. I dunno, I just dislike sitcoms I guess; every last one of them. I didn't consider anything like that for the list when I was able to choose from giant pool of extremely well-written and produced contemporary stuff, and classics like The Twilight Zone, which are still more engaging to me today than a lot of the lighter fare I was exposed to over the years. I am sure some of my listed shows will appear soon! Uh, right?
You've clearly not been exposed to many good sitcoms. ;)
I've got seven on my list and only one is American. Then again, less than ten of my twenty five are US-made so it's maybe not a figure to read too much into.
christine
10-30-14, 06:05 PM
I'm Alan Partridge was my #4.
I first saw Coogan's creation when Alan was the sports presenter on The Day Today and something clicked. Unlike the rest of the Chris Morris vehicle, Partridge wasn't trying to be edgy or absurdest. He was a traditional sitcom character of the nerdy, gaff-prone, socially awkward variety.
Knowing Me, Knowing You followed and I loved it. Like The Day Today, KMKY was filmed as a faux TV show and that was the part which was holding Coogan back, for me. I wanted an unleashed Alan...
With I'm Alan Partridge I got precisely that. ;)
Season one is better than season two (something that Coogan and Iannucci agree on) in that it's less sitcom-y but I'd still happily watch it over 99% of other TV comedies. Partridge was both Coogan's finest creation and the albatross around his neck but he's become more at ease with the fact that he'll forever be remembered for the character as he's got older. In fact, the Mid Morning Matters show contained some quintessential Alan. It had a bittersweet tone that comes from a comedian approaching middle age (and fast approaching the age of Alan himself) and deserved a lot more praise than it received.
Even the film, Alpha Papa, was surprisingly not sh*t.
There's a little of Alan in all of us...
I liked The Trip as well. Did you watch that Tatty? I also like Rob Brydon a lot
christine
10-30-14, 06:08 PM
Oh no I've just gone back and looked at my list and realised I've left off one of my most favourite sitcoms. I could cry :(
Citizen Rules
10-30-14, 06:08 PM
I had Madoka as my #2 choice. The #1 pick would definitely Guap's but I don't know who else voted for it. Thanks Voigan, I wasn't criticizing the choice. I was wondering if unknown members had voted for it.
Tacitus
10-30-14, 06:12 PM
I liked The Trip as well. Did you watch that Tatty? I also like Rob Brydon a lot
Yep, The Trip wasn't far off my 25. Didn't like the second series quite as much but the first was wonderful telly. ;)
Tacitus
10-30-14, 06:13 PM
Oh no I've just gone back and looked at my list and realised I've left off one of my most favourite sitcoms. I could cry :(
I remembered one that I'd left out yesterday and it probably would have made my top 10. Ah well, I hope it's on the list. :)
christine
10-30-14, 06:20 PM
I remembered one that I'd left out yesterday and it probably would have made my top 10. Ah well, I hope it's on the list. :)
I hope you voted for mine!
Agree about the second series of The Trip, wasn't as funny as the first . I didn't watch it all the way through. The first one tho was that excellent blend of humour and pathos that always denotes great comedy :)
Thanks Voigan, I wasn't criticizing the choice. I was wondering if unknown members had voted for it.
No problem. ;)
gbgoodies
10-30-14, 08:51 PM
52. Puella Magi Madoka Magica (2011- )
51. I'm Alan Partridge (1997- 2002)
I've never heard of either of these shows. (Unless Alan Partridge is a long-lost member of The Partridge Family. :laugh: )
honeykid
10-30-14, 09:56 PM
Never heard of Puella Magi, but the thought of watching cartoon schoolgirls becoming magical girls fills me with dread :p
I had to watch all 12 episodes of that for the HoF. :( Safe to say I'm not a fan.
Not a fan of Partridge, either, but I knew it'd show up here.
I think I preferred the second series of The Trip. :D I'd have to watch the first again, but I think I preferred the second.
Needless to say, still not had one turn up yet. Probably won't happen until the top 20.
TylerDurden99
10-30-14, 10:00 PM
Didn't vote for anything Partridge, but he is a brilliant comedy creation. I must be the only one in the world who absolutely loved Alpha Papa.
Sexy Celebrity
10-30-14, 10:00 PM
I had to watch all 12 episodes of that for the HoF. :( Safe to say I'm not a fan.
I have no sympathy for you. You could have refused. You could have not watched it.
Godoggo
10-30-14, 10:02 PM
I saw PMMM for the HoF as well. It's entertaining and the artwork is amazing when they are in the Labyrinth. It does feel like something I would have enjoyed more some 15 years ago though. I think there are anime series that are easier to appreciate as an adult.
Never seen I Am Alan Partridge, but I liked Steve Coogan in 24 Hour Party People.
gandalf26
10-30-14, 10:11 PM
Great to see the Brits doing well, fairly sure I voted for Peep Show and Alan Partridge.
rauldc14
10-30-14, 10:12 PM
With all due respect to Godoggo as the list compiler, this list is TERRIBLE with a certain last inclusion. Downright utterly terrible.
PMMM is one of the worst "things" I've ever seen.
rauldc14
10-30-14, 10:13 PM
I mean not the list in total, it's just pathetic that made it. I won't disregard the whole list, but it certainly has been dampened significantly.
cricket
10-30-14, 10:16 PM
I've never heard of Alan Partridge and have only heard of the other thanks to Guap. 50 down and I've only seen 6 shows with none from my list to appear. Either my list is great or it's got a whole lot of suck. At this point, I'm betting on suck.
gbgoodies
10-30-14, 10:21 PM
With all due respect to Godoggo as the list compiler, this list is TERRIBLE with a certain last inclusion. Downright utterly terrible.
PMMM is one of the worst "things" I've ever seen.
I mean not the list in total, it's just pathetic that made it. I won't disregard the whole list, but it certainly has been dampened significantly.
I think the problem is that we're a split group among various countries, so we don't all watch the same TV shows. It looks like the lower half of the top 100 has a lot of British and anime shows. Hopefully the U.S. shows will start popping up in the top half of the list.
rauldc14
10-30-14, 10:23 PM
No, the problem is people have voted for garbage with that one:p
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