The MoFo Top Comic Book & Graphic Novel Movies Countdown

[seanc]

Ugh. Not a great fan of Batman, with Nicholson's mugging being the main reason.

You are dead to me. I am PM Sexy to see if I can change my MoFo list as we speak, or as I type.

[Voigan]

I watched 89's Batman but couldn't get into it. Nicholson was fine but Kim Basinger's character was extremely annoying since half her lines consisted high pitched shrieks and Keaton let his eyebrows do most of the acting for him. It wasn't horrible but Returns and Nolan's trilogy are much better IMO.

[Deadite]

Nicholson's mugging was my favorite thing about it. Batman looked like a munchkin and the romance was juvenile.

[JayDee]

You are dead to me. I am PM Sexy to see if I can change my MoFo list as we speak, or as I type.

:confused: MoFo list? What's been going on that I've missed now?

[Deadite]

Sc started a top 100 mofos countdown thread. Then he started it before giving everyone enough time to make a proper list to turn in.

[Zotis]

I used to say that I liked Batman more than Batman Returns, but after watching them more recently I realised I only really liked Jack Nicholson's performance. Keaton and Basinger act kinda monotone and almost lethargic.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I had Watchmen at #25.

The funny thing is I still haven't even seen all of it, yet. But I will eventually. I own it. I just needed something else to put down.

[The Rodent]

08

Oldboy

http://i1163.photobucket.com/albums/q552/The-Rodent/MoFo%20Comic%20And%20Graphic%20Headers/Oldboy_zps28faef9b.jpg (http://s1163.photobucket.com/user/The-Rodent/media/MoFo%20Comic%20And%20Graphic%20Headers/Oldboy_zps28faef9b.jpg.html)

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“All I Could Think About In That Moment, Was The Guy In The Next Room Was Eating With Only One Chopstick”

2003

Points - 290

Voters - 15/35

Top 10 - 13/15

#1 - 1/15




07

Spider-Man 2

http://i1163.photobucket.com/albums/q552/The-Rodent/MoFo%20Comic%20And%20Graphic%20Headers/SpiderMan2_zps25549454.jpg (http://s1163.photobucket.com/user/The-Rodent/media/MoFo%20Comic%20And%20Graphic%20Headers/SpiderMan2_zps25549454.jpg.html)

http://i1163.photobucket.com/albums/q552/The-Rodent/MoFo%20Comic%20And%20Graphic%20Headers/SpiderMan2Strip_zps1034e9bf.png (http://s1163.photobucket.com/user/The-Rodent/media/MoFo%20Comic%20And%20Graphic%20Headers/SpiderMan2Strip_zps1034e9bf.png.html)

“Guy Named Otto Octavius Winds Up With Eight Limbs. Four Mechanical Arms Welded Right Onto His Body. What Are The Odds?”

2004

Points - 335

Voters - 24/35

Top 10 - 11/24

#1 - 0/24

[cricket]

I had Spider-Man 2 as my #19.

I like Oldboy but not enough to vote for it. I may have to try it again.

[Swan]

Had both on my list. Oldboy was my #4.

[Cobpyth]

If I had sent in a list, Oldboy would've been very high.

[-KhaN-]

I didn't know Oldboy was based on graphic novel...Well I got Spider-Man 2.
1.
2.
3.
4.Batman
5.
6.
7.X-Men:First Class
8.X2
9.Watchmen
10.V for Vendetta
11.X-Men
12.Man of Steel
13.Spider-Man 2
14.The Crow
15.Batman Returns
16.The Wolverine
17.Iron Man 3
18.Man in Black
19.Iron Man 2
20.
21.Captain America
22.
23.300
24.Blade
25.Blade II

[mark f]

I obviously voted for those two, although SM2 barely made it at #25.

[The Gunslinger45]

Spider Man 2 made my list. Old Boy did not. Mostly because by the time I saw the movie, I knew what the twist was.

1. ?
2. ?
3. Blade (1998)
4. Vampire Hunter D (1985)
5. Heavy Metal (1981)
6. Thor (2011)
7. Blade 2 (2002)
8. ?
9. ?
10. Iron Man 2 (2010)
11. Captain America: The First Avenger (2011)
12. The Incredible Hulk (2008)
13. ?
14. 300 (2007)
15. ?
16. The Punisher (2004)
17. Spider Man 2 (2004)
18. Red (2010)
19. X2 (2003)
20. Superman (1978)
21. ?
22. Hellboy (2004)
23. Dredd (2012)
24. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1990)
25. Iron Man 3 (2013)

[Camo]

Spider Man 2 was second on my list. I probably don't love it as much as i once did, but it was probabaly my second best cinema experience after Return of the King. I also had Oldboy at 8, which makes 19 from my list.


1.
2.Spider Man 2
3.Batman
4.
5.Spider Man
6.Watchmen
7.A History of Violence
8. Oldboy
9.
10.
11.Blade
12.Kick-Ass
13.Persepolis
14.Superman 2
15.Road To Perdition
16.Superman
17.
18.V for Vendetta
19.Iron Man 2
20.300
21.Blue Is The Warmest Colour
22.
23.X2
24.The Crow
25.X Men

[Sexy Celebrity]

Sad that Spider-Man 2 is #7. I was hoping for a surprise win. It was #3 on my list.

At least it's Top 10.

[The Gunslinger45]

I still say The Dark Knight or The Avengers will win. More then likely The Dark Knight though.

[-KhaN-]

I still say The Dark Knight or The Avengers will win. More then likely The Dark Knight though.

I hope you are right about TDK. :)

[The Rodent]

You'll find out soon. 6 and 5 tomorrow, then 4, 3, 2 and 1 on Tuesday.

[rauldc14]

Sad that Spider-Man 2 is #7. I was hoping for a surprise win. It was #3 on my list.

At least it's Top 10.

Pretty sure it was in my top 5, behind Dark Knight, Avengers, and V for Vendetta.

[jiraffejustin]

I would like to see Batman Begins win this thing. I don't think I will though.

Out of some of the recent ones, I voted for V for Vendetta, Watchmen, and Oldboy.

MY LIST

#1 - Whisper of the Heart (#42)
#2 - Blue is the Warmest Color (#36)
#4 - Ghost in the Shell (#40)
#5 - Only Yesterday (#63)
#6 - Porco Rosso (#50)
#7 - The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp (#31)
#8 - Oldboy (#8)
#9 - Watchmen (#9)
#13 - The Addams Family (#61)
#14 - Barbarella (not ranked)
#15 - Persepolis (#19)
#16 - Akira (#16)
#17 - Hugo (#48)
#18 - V for Vendetta (#11)
#19 - Dredd (#20)
#20 - Tekkonkinkreet (#64)
#21 - Dick Tracy (#49)
#22 - American Splendor (#45)
#23 - Lone Wolf and Cub: Sword of Vengeance (#81)
#24 - Road to Perdition (#30)
#25 - Lone Wolf and Cub: Baby Cart in Peril (not ranked)

[TheUsualSuspect]

1.
2.
3.
4. X-2: X-Men United
5. Spider-Man 2
6. Oldboy
7. The Crow
8. A History of Violence
9. Batman (Burton)
10. Red
11. Men in Black
12. Blade
13. 300
14. Blade 2
15. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
16. Watchmen
17. Hellboy
18.
19. Superman
20. Thor
21. Captain America
22.
23. Dick Tracy
24.
25. KickAss

I liked Thor the best out of the other Marvel films. Glad to see Burton's Batman make it onto the top ten as well as Watchmen. Spiderman 2 is the best Spiderman film to date and I don't see the upcoming flicks knocking it off that spot anytime soon.

My #22 will not be in the top ten, that's for sure, so I feel okay letting it slip here. Constantine. It's sad that trash like Batman & Robin make this list and decent stuff like that are left off.

[Sexy Celebrity]

My #22 will not be in the top ten, that's for sure, so I feel okay letting it slip here. Constantine. It's sad that trash like Batman & Robin make this list and decent stuff like that are left off.

Yeah, no --- Constantine is trash. I saw it once. At the movies. It about killed me. Thankfully most of my memory of the film has vanished, but I remember how much I hated it.

[teeter_g]

I was going to save the re-hashing of my list for the end of it but I might as well do it now. I don't know how many more are going to make it anyway. A few probably.

1. Green Lantern (#78)
2.
3.
4. Tank Girl (#55)
5. The Crow (#21)
6. Dredd (#20)
7. Blade (#22)
8.
9. Batman (#10)
10.
11. X-Men (#23)
12. Wanted (#56)
13. Spawn (#77)
14. Batman Returns (#28)
15.
16. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (#34)
17. Superman (#26)
18.
19. The Amazing Spider Man (#37)
20.
21. The Punisher (#51)
22.
23. Hell Boy (#25)
24. Watchmen (#9)
25.

[teeter_g]

My #22 will not be in the top ten, that's for sure, so I feel okay letting it slip here. Constantine. It's sad that trash like Batman & Robin make this list and decent stuff like that are left off.

Constantine was my #25. Pretty sure it isn't going to make it.

[Sane]

Oldboy was my number 1. Didn't see Spider-Man 2 in time but if I did it wouldn't have mattered - watched it since and I thought all of the Maguire Spider-Man movies were pretty bad.

[The Rodent]

06

The Dark Knight Rises

http://i1163.photobucket.com/albums/q552/The-Rodent/MoFo%20Comic%20And%20Graphic%20Headers/TDKR_zps28fc1b9d.jpg (http://s1163.photobucket.com/user/The-Rodent/media/MoFo%20Comic%20And%20Graphic%20Headers/TDKR_zps28fc1b9d.jpg.html)

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“No One Cared Who I Was Until I Put On The Mask”

2012

Points - 350

Voters - 22/35

Top 10 - 13/22

#1 - 1/22




05

Iron Man

http://i1163.photobucket.com/albums/q552/The-Rodent/MoFo%20Comic%20And%20Graphic%20Headers/IronMan_zps18343473.jpg (http://s1163.photobucket.com/user/The-Rodent/media/MoFo%20Comic%20And%20Graphic%20Headers/IronMan_zps18343473.jpg.html)

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“Iron Man. That's Kind Of Catchy. It's Got A Nice Ring To It. I Mean It's Not Technically Accurate. The Suit's A Gold Titanium Alloy, But It's Kind Of Provocative, The Imagery Anyway”

2008

Points - 422

Voters - 27/35

Top 10 - 16/27

#1 - 0/27

[Deadite]

*sigh*

[Masterman]

Iron Man is fantastic.

The Dark Knight Rises doesn't deserve to be so high.

[The Rodent]

I had TDKR in 2nd place (24 points)...


Didn't vote for Iron Man. The only Marvel films I had were Amazing Spidey, X Men, X Men 2 and X Men 3.


I guess I'm just a DC fan.


1 -
2 - The Dark Knight Rises (2012) - 6th
3 -
4 -
5 - The Amazing Spider-Man (2012) - 37th
6 - Superman: The Movie (1978) - 26th
7 - Superman 2 (1980) - 43rd
8 - Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1990) - 34th
9 - Watchmen (2009) - 9th
10 - X2: X Men United (2003) - 12th
11 -
12 - Akira (1988) - 16th
13 - 300 (2007) - 24th
14 - The Crow (1994) - 21st
15 - Kick-Ass (2010) - 27th
16 - Man Of Steel (2013) - 44th
17 -
18 - X-Men: The Last Stand (2006) - 80th
19 -
20 - Batman Returns (1992) - 28th
21 - Batman (1989) - 10th
22 - Cowboys And Aliens (2011) - 91st
23 -
24 - The Addams Family (1991) - 61st
25 - X Men (2000) - 23rd

[The Sci-Fi Slob]

Seen 69.

My List:
1.
2. The Dark Knight Rises
3.
4. X-Men 2
5.
6. Watchmen
7. Dredd
8.
9. The Crow
10. Spider-man
11. The Incredible Hulk
12. Thor
13. X-men
14.
15. Batman
16. Superman Returns
17. Spider-man 2
18. X-Men The Last Stand
19. Hell Boy
20. Blade
21. Kick Ass
22.
23. Man of Steel
24. Superman: The Movie
25. 300

[cricket]

I had Iron Man at #3 and The Dark Knight Rises at #4.

[The Rodent]

It's a hell of a jump in points though...
10 - 259 for Batman
9 - 273 for Watchmen
8 - 290 for Oldboy
7 - 335 for Spider-Man 2
6 - 350 for TDKR
5 - 422 for Iron Man...


72 points difference from 6th to 5th.

[cricket]

These are the 2 that won't make it from my list-

Weird Science (1985) I thought this would definitely make it.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d6/Movie_poster_for_Weird_Science_%281985%29.jpg

Bullet to the Head (2012) I thought SC may vote for this since I watched it based on a good review of his.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3f/Bullet_to_the_Head_Poster.jpg

[The Rodent]

There's 3 from my own list that won't either.


I've added the points to the first post of the thread. Thought it'd be good to see all in one post.


Anyway, tomorrow is the Top 4 Finale... so here's the list again from 100-05 with points added to it as well...






PAGE 1 (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=35265)

100. Fritz The Cat (1972) 17
99. One Piece Film: Z (2012) 17
98. Azumi (2003) 17
97. Beck (2010) 18
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96. Ghost In The Shell SAC Solid State Society (2006) 18
95. From Up On Poppy Hill (2011) 18
94. Ninja Bugei-Chô (1967) 19
93. Superman Returns (2006) 19
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92. Tomie (1999) 20
91. Cowboys And Aliens (2011) 21
90. Batman And Robin (1997) 22
89. Stardust (2007) 22
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88. Vampire Hunter D (1985) 22
87. The Adventures Of Tintin (2011) 23
86. Air Doll (2009) 24
85. K-On! The Movie (2011) 24
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84. Conan The Destroyer (1984) 24
83. Red (2010) 24
82. The Disappearance Of Haruhi Suzumiya (2010) 25
81. Lone Wolf And Cub: Sword Of Vengeance (1972) 26
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80. X Men The Last Stand (2006) 26
79. Daredevil (2003) 28
78. Green Lantern (2011) 29
77. Spawn (1997) 29
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76. Speed Racer (2008) 30
75. Hulk (2003) 30
74. X Men Origins: Wolverine (2009) 31
73. The Mask (1994) 31
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72. Memories (1995) 32
71. Tales From The Crypt (1972) 32
70. Addams Family Values (1993) 32
69. Howard The Duck (1986) 36
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68. When The Wind Blows (1986) 38
67. The Rocketeer (1991) 38
66. Heavy Metal (1981) 40
65. Mystery Men (1999) 40
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64. Tekkonkinkreet (2006) 40
63. Only Yesterday (1991) 42
62. Popeye (1980) 43
61. The Addams Family (1991) 43
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60. Blade 2 (2002) 43
59. Ichi The Killer (2001) 44
58. Batman: The Mask Of Phantasm (1993) 45
57. Battle Royale (2000) 46
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56. Wanted (2008) 47
55. Tank Girl (1995) 49
54. The Wolverine (2013) 49
53. The Incredible Hulk (2008) 50
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52. Spider-Man 3 (2007) 52
51. The Punisher (2004) 58
50. Porco Rosso (1992) 59
49. Dick Tracy (1990) 60
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48. Hugo (2011) 66
47. Where The Wild Things Are (2009) 75
46. Hellboy 2: The Golden Army (2008) 78
45. American Splendor (2003) 78
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44. Man Of Steel (2013) 80
43. Superman 2 (1980) 82
42. Whisper Of The Heart (1995) 87
41. Conan The Barbarian (1982) 88
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40. Ghost In The Shell (1995) 88
39. Iron Man 3 (2013) 102
38. Captain America: The First Avenger (2011) 102
37. The Amazing Spider-Man (2012) 103
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36. Blue Is The Warmest Colour (2013) 105
35. Scott Pilgrim Vs The World (2010) 106
34. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1990) 115
33. Ghost World (2001) 116
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32. Iron Man 2 (2010) 118
31. The Life And Death Of Colonel Blimp (1943) 120
30. Road To Perdition (2002) 123
29. Men In Black (1997) 123
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28. Batman Returns (1992) 124
27. Kick-Ass (2010) 145
26. Superman: The Movie (1978) 154
25. Hellboy (2004) 156
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24. 300 (2007) 163
23. X Men (2000) 164
22. Blade (1998) 165
21. The Crow (1994) 171
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20. Dredd (2012) 173
19. Persepolis (2007) 175
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18. A History Of Violence (2005) 177
17. Nausicaä Of The Valley Of The Wind (1984) 184
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16. Akira (1988) 195
15. Spider-Man (2002) 199
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14. X Men: First Class (2011) 203
13. Thor (2011) 210
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12. X2: X Men United (2003) 241
11. V For Vendetta (2005) 244
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10. Batman (1989) 259
09. Watchmen (2009) 273
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08. Oldboy (2003) 290
07. Spider-Man 2 (2004) 335
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06. The Dark Knight Rises (2012) 350
05. Iron Man (2008) 422

[Holden Pike]

http://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=14086&stc=1&d=1398684396

I had the first Iron Man as my number thirteen (thirteen points). And I should have all of the remaining top four on my list, which isn't really all that surprising, I suppose?

The two from my list of twenty-five that didn't make it were Flash Gordon, which I gave a fun, cheesy, single point from my #25 position, and The Rabbi's Cat, which I think is wonderful, but I guess because it was made by the French and not the Japanese, it had no real shot of making the cut? It's a really good comic and adaptation, for those who haven't bothered to ever read/watch it. I had it at number twenty-two on my list. Did anybody else vote for it, or were my four points all that one got?

http://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=14087&stc=1&d=1398684427
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wk6IB_Kgl4E

[seanc]

Iron Man was my #2. I dont remember where I put Rises but know it was top 5. I love it. I think if it wasnt the sequel to what most consider the best comic adaptation ever it wouldn't get so much grief. I usually love origin stories the most in a series but with Nolan's Batman, Begins was my least favorite. Still fantastic though.

[-KhaN-]

Ok,here is update,I'm sure Constantine won't be in here so yea,I forgot some titles that would replace Constantine easy but well,too late now. So here it is,TDKR,Iron Man and Constantine.
1.
2.
3.
4.Batman
5.Iron Man
6.
7.X-Men:First Class
8.X2
9.Watchmen
10.V for Vendetta
11.X-Men
12.Man of Steel
13.Spider-Man 2
14.The Crow
15.Batman Returns
16.The Wolverine
17.Iron Man 3
18.Man in Black
19.Iron Man 2
20.The Dark Knight Rises
21.Captain America
22.Constantine
23.300
24.Blade
25.Blade II

[Camo]

These 2 make 21 from my list with TDKR at 10 and Iron Man at 9. Of my remaining 4, 2 won't make it Superman: Doomsday at 22 and Batman: Year One at 17 so this is my list atm.

1.
2.Spider Man 2
3.Batman
4.
5.Spider Man
6.Watchmen
7.A History of Violence
8.Oldboy
9.Iron Man
10.The Dark Knight Rises
11.Blade
12.Kick-Ass
13.Persepolis
14.Superman 2
15.Road To Perdition
16.Superman
17.Batman: Year One
18.V for Vendetta
19.Iron Man 2
20.300
21.Blue Is The Warmest Colour
22.Superman: Doomsday
23.X2
24.The Crow
25.X Men

[JayDee]

Seen 69.


http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y193/JayDee87/69Dudes_zps78d95923.jpg (http://s5.photobucket.com/user/JayDee87/media/69Dudes_zps78d95923.jpg.html)



Couple of big favourites recently. Iron Man I had at #3. And Spider-Man 2 was at #4. Oldboy would have made my list but didn't consider it as was concentrating almost solely on superheroes. And Dark Knight Rises was not on my list, and really don't think it deserves to be anywhere near as high.

That aside got to say I'm loving the list. Best list we've ever done.

[Mirror JayDee]

God is this list still going?!!! Man how I hate comic book movies! Bloody superheroes!!! :mad:

When are we going to get to do a list of the best art house films? Now that is something I want to see.


Bela Tarr 4 Life!!!

[Miss Vicky]

Iron Man and The Dark Knight Rises?

http://www.angelfire.com/music6/walteregan/MoFoPics/joaqdisapproves.gif

[Yoda]

Iron Man was my #4, and it came pretty close to getting itself nudged up even higher.

The success of this film is a great example of how the preexisting fame of the hero is incidental. A good story can be written around pretty much any of them, though it obviously helps if you can land one of the most ridiculously successful actor-to-role matches imaginable. I didn't think much of it when I heard it, because superhero films before were largely driven by the nature of the hero themselves, so I was inherently interested in Batman, and inherently disinterested in heroes like Iron Man. The elevator pitch about their powers and origins was, for a long time, the most important thing.

http://www.bite.ca/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/very-cool.gif

This is the one that also put everyone on notice about what Marvel was up to; especially with the ending, which tells us that this one's going to be different. This one's going to have continuity and serialization and isn't going to reset after each installment. That was a revelation, and it's something they've followed through on since.

http://www.cultture.com/pics/2014/02/thanos03.gif

[The Rodent]

Quite a lot of negativity to TDKR... seeing as it made 22 out of 35 lists...


... and 13 of those 22 had it in their Top 10, one of them was #1...


I had it in 2nd :D

[Yoda]

Oh, and yeah, I'll toss in some negativity for TDKR, too. ;)

I guess it's a testament to Nolan's trilogy that, as disappointed as I was by that film, it still found its way onto the back of my list. But it's part of a larger whole, so I think it's fair to compare it to its predecessors a little, and think about what could have been. In a vacuum, still pretty good, and obviously some of its individual elements are exceptional. But on the whole, I think most of the emotional power it has is coasting on all the investment poured into the other two films.

[The Rodent]

I found Rises to be a better film than TDK.


TDK gets a lot of praise through Heath Ledger... and I agree that he rocked the film, by far one of the best performances in any film... but if you removed that performance from the film and replaced it with another actor doing a different Joker, would the film, as a whole, be as lauded as it is?

[Yoda]

Prediction for the remaining four:

4. Batman Begins
3. Sin City
2. The Avengers
1. The Dark Knight

I can see 3 and 4 or 1 and 2 switching. But I'll be pretty surprised if those aren't at the top together.

[rauldc14]

Iron Man and The Dark Knight Rises?

http://www.angelfire.com/music6/walteregan/MoFoPics/joaqdisapproves.gif

Iron Man rules. It seems we have less and less in common these days:p

[mark f]

What a horrible list! :D All 25 from my list are on it, and I will have seen 81. I know it goes against my film-watching ethos, but I'm not going out of my way to see the other 19, but Ill see a few. :)

[Captain Spaulding]

I think people are too blinded by their adoration of Nolan's Dark Knight Trilogy to realize that The Dark Knight Rises is an absolute mess of a movie.

[The Gunslinger45]

Voted for Iron Man.

1. ?
2. ?
3. Blade (1998)
4. Vampire Hunter D (1985)
5. Heavy Metal (1981)
6. Thor (2011)
7. Blade 2 (2002)
8. Iron Man (2008)
9. ?
10. Iron Man 2 (2010)
11. Captain America: The First Avenger (2011)
12. The Incredible Hulk (2008)
13. ?
14. 300 (2007)
15. ?
16. The Punisher (2004)
17. Spider Man 2 (2004)
18. Red (2010)
19. X2 (2003)
20. Superman (1978)
21. 2 Guns (not showing up)
22. Hellboy (2004)
23. Dredd (2012)
24. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1990)
25. Iron Man 3 (2013)

[The Sci-Fi Slob]

Iron Man didn't make my list. How 30 Days of Night didn't make the list is beyond me..I don't understand all the hatred towards Nolan's Batman films, they're better than any Marvel film.

[Deadite]

Hatred of Nolan's trilogy? Where??

[Masterman]

I don't hate Nolan's Trilogy, I just think the third one is pretty poor.

[-KhaN-]

I think people are too blinded by their adoration of Nolan's Dark Knight Trilogy to realize that The Dark Knight Rises is an absolute mess of a movie.

Nah,it was not as good as TDK or BB but it was NOT a mess,I mean ofc you can have your opinion but as I said a lot of times before,it was a decant movie,I enjoyed it and it deserved to be in 20 spot on my list.

[Masterman]

Nah,it was not as good as TDK or BB but it was NOT a mess,I mean ofc you can have your opinion but as I said a lot of times before,it was a decant movie,I enjoyed it and it deserved to be in 20 spot on my list.

I think it's knowhere near as good as the previous 2. It's obvious it was just thrown together for the money. It had a very weak, and lazy story. I mean a ticking timebomb, is that really Nolan?.

[rauldc14]

Iron Man didn't make my list. How 30 Days of Night didn't make the list is beyond me..I don't understand all the hatred towards Nolan's Batman films, they're better than any Marvel film.

I love the marvel films. Not all of them are the best, but they are all enjoyable.

[-KhaN-]

I think it's knowhere near as good as the previous 2. It's obvious it was just thrown together for the money. It had a very weak, and lazy story. I mean a ticking timebomb, is that really Nolan?.

Yea it was made only cuz of money,because Nolan didn't want to make 3rd movie after Heath died but they pushed him into creating it,that is biggest reason for TDKR not doing as good,yea it is not even close to first two but again it is an easy 8,at least for me.

[TheUsualSuspect]

3 people had Contantine in their list, how many people other than SC had Batman and Robin on theirs????

[gandalf26]

Iron Man is fantastic.

The Dark Knight Rises doesn't deserve to be so high.

You like Man of Steel.

[Miss Vicky]

Iron Man rules. It seems we have less and less in common these days:p

Did we ever have that much in common in terms of film taste?

I've hated Iron Man since the day I stupidly blind bought the DVD. I thought to myself "Hey, I really liked The Dark Knight and I like Robert Downey, Jr and Jeff Bridges, so this could be good." Yeah, no. It wasn't.

Similar thing happened with The Dark Knight Rises. It's also collecting dust on my shelf after my first - and probably last - viewing of it.

[rauldc14]

Although I do love 3 of your top 5, yeah not much in common with film tastes.

[The Gunslinger45]

Iron Man didn't make my list. How 30 Days of Night didn't make the list is beyond me..I don't understand all the hatred towards Nolan's Batman films, they're better than any Marvel film.

I love The Dark Knight, I just like The Avengers and Captain America 2 more. :D

[Masterman]

You like Man of Steel.

Man Of Steel is better.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Bullet to the Head (2012) I thought SC may vote for this since I watched it based on a good review of his.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3f/Bullet_to_the_Head_Poster.jpg

Trust me -- if I had known you could nominate that, it would have made the list, because I would have nominated it high.

That's what I hate about this countdown -- I didn't know what all you could even nominate! I had no idea Bullet to the Head was based on a comic book.

Anyway, Dark Knight Rises and Iron Man were on my list. I now have 19 movies. I think I'll only have one more.

[The Rodent]

Someone please rename this "The If I'd have known Countdown"

[rauldc14]

Man Of Steel is better.

I think Man of Steel is better than TDKR too

[gandalf26]

LOL........oh wait......really??

[Miss Vicky]

I think Man of Steel is better than TDKR too

Man of Steel is more tolerable than TDKR for me, but only because Henry Cavill and Russell Crowe are hot and Christian Bale... isn't. Tom Hardy can be attractive, but not as Bane.

[The Rodent]

I'm watching TDKR right now...

[Sexy Celebrity]

I'm watching YG right now...

Hope you have popcorn.

[The Rodent]

Yeah, I was watching vids of your Mum but she's made so many I lost track and got bored.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Yeah, I was watching vids of your Mum but she's made so many I lost track and got bored.

Check out my grandma. She only made two.

[The Rodent]

Guesses on the Top 4 then anyone?


Yoda has already put in:
4. Batman Begins
3. Sin City
2. The Avengers
1. The Dark Knight

I can see 3 and 4 or 1 and 2 switching. But I'll be pretty surprised if those aren't at the top together.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Surprised? You should already know.

[Swan]

Surprised? You should already know.

Yoda wrote that.

[rauldc14]

Sin City is 4, begins at 3, then avengers then TDK.

[The Rodent]

I miscounted... sorry... Howard The Duck is and 69th and #1... damn...

[rauldc14]

I miscounted... sorry... Howard The Duck is and 69th and #1... damn...

Because you forgot Psychic Isaac, Dorothy Michaels, and Database Errol's lists.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I'll guess this just to be different:

1. The Dark Knight
2. Batman Begins
3. The Avengers
4. Sin City

[Godoggo]

Iron Man made my list. TDKR did not.

[The Rodent]

My guess for the Top 4


4. That one
3. This one
2. The other one
1. Howard The Duck (because I miscounted)

[The Rodent]

04

The Avengers

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“You Really Have Got A Lid On It, Haven't You? What's Your Secret? Mellow Jazz? Bongo Drums? Huge Bag Of Weed?”

2012

Points - 441

Voters - 27/35

Top 10 - 17/27

#1 - 3/27




03

Sin City

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“I Love Hitmen. No Matter What You Do To Them, You Don’t Feel Bad”

2005

Points - 483

Voters - 30/35

Top 10 - 17/30

#1 - 3/30




02

Batman Begins

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“Why Do We Fall, Sir? So We Can Learn To Pick Ourselves Up”

2005

Points - 487

Voters - 30/35

Top 10 - 17/30

#1 - 1/30




01

The Dark Knight

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“I Believe Whatever Doesn’t Kill You, Simply Makes You… Stranger”

2008

Points - 626

Voters - 32/35

Top 10 - 23/32

#1 - 11/32

[Yoda]

Wow. A little surprised at The Avengers.

But yeah, zero surprise about The Dark Knight. And look at the point spread: not even close! On all but three lists, top 10 for 72% of the lists, and #1 on more than a third. That's pretty clear.

[The Sci-Fi Slob]

Seen 73.

My List:

1. The Dark Knight
2. The Dark Knight Rises
3. The Avengers
4. X-Men 2
5. Sin City
6. Watchmen
7. Dredd
8. Batman Begins
9. The Crow
10. Spider-man
11. The Incredible Hulk
12. Thor
13. X-Men
14. Batman Forever
15. Batman
16. Superman Returns
17. Spider-man 2
18. X-Men The Last Stand
19. Hell Boy
20. Blade
21. Kick Ass
22. 30 Days of Night
23. Man of Steel
24. Superman
25. 300

[Swan]

The Dark Knight was my #2. The best superhero film ever made, in my opinion.

Not too crazy about the others, although I like Batman Begins well enough.

[The Rodent]

My list... bolded the ones that never made it. I'll post up 101-155 soon...


1 - Dredd (2012)
2 - The Dark Knight Rises (2012)
3 - The Dark Knight (2008)
4 - Batman Begins (2005)
5 - The Amazing Spider-Man (2012)
6 - Superman: The Movie (1978)
7 - Superman 2 (1980)
8 - Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1990)
9 - Watchmen (2009)
10 - X2: X-Men United (2003)
11 - Sin City (2005)
12 - Akira (1988)
13 - 300 (2007)
14 - The Crow (1994)
15 - Kick Ass (2010)
16 - Man Of Steel (2013)
17 - Kick-Ass 2 (2013)
18 - X-Men: The Last Stand (2006)
19 - From Hell (2001)
20 - Batman Returns (1992)
21 - Batman (1989)
22 - Cowboys And Aliens (2011)
23 - 30 Days Of Night (2007)
24 - The Addams Family (1991)
25 - X-Men (2000)

[Camo]

Not surprised by TDK, my favourite superhero movie. Yet to see Sin City or The Avengers. Great work Rodent :)

Seen - 53/100

My list -

1.The Dark Knight
2.Spider Man 2
3.Batman
4.Batman Begins
5.Spider Man
6.Watchmen
7.A History of Violence
8.Oldboy
9.Iron Man
10.The Dark Knight Rises
11.Blade
12.Kick-Ass
13.Persepolis
14.Superman 2
15.Road To Perdition
16.Superman
17.Batman: Year One
18.V for Vendetta
19.Iron Man 2
20.300
21.Blue Is The Warmest Colour
22.Superman: Doomsday
23.X2
24.The Crow
25.X Men

[The Rodent]

Well, it was fun to see everyone screaming and fighting over the countdown.
Thanks to everyone for taking part in my first MoFo Countdown, turned out better than I expected…

Here’s the full list from 155-101 and 100-01…
I’ve organised the tied ones either alphabetically or according to amount of votes… and colour coded them to show points groups.

155 - 1 Vote, 1 Point - Blue Spring 2001
154 - 1 Vote, 1 Point - Garfield 2004
153 - 1 Vote, 2 Points - Flash Gordon 1980
152 - 1 Vote, 2 Points - Oblivion 2013
151 - 1 Vote, 2 Points - The Castle Of Cagliostro 1979
150 - 2 Votes, 2 Points - Lone Wolf And Cub: Baby Cart In Peril 1972
149 - 1 Vote, 3 Points - Blade Trinity 2003
148 - 1 Vote, 3 Points - Bleach: Memories Of Nobody 2006
147 - 1 Vote, 3 Points - It's The Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown 1966
146 - 1 Vote, 4 Points - A Charlie Brown Christmas 1965
145 - 1 Vote, 4 Points - Men In Black 2 2002
144 - 1 Vote, 4 Points - Superman: Doomsday 2001
143 - 1 Vote, 4 Points - Tales From The Crypt: Bordello Of Blood 1996
142 - 1 Vote, 4 Points - The Rabbi's Cat 2001
141 - 1 Vote, 5 Points - 2 Guns 2013
140 - 1 Vote, 5 Points - Fantastic 4 2005
139 - 1 Vote, 5 Points - Lone Wolf And Cub: Baby Cart In The Land Of The Demons 1973
138 - 1 Vote, 5 Points - Tales From The Crypt: Demon Knight 1995
137 - 1 Vote, 6 Points - The League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen 2003
136 - 1 Vote, 7 Points - Tokyo Zombie 2005
135 - 1 Vote, 8 Points - Berserk Golden Arc Part 1: The Egg Of The King 2012
134 - 1 Vote, 8 Points - Crows Zero 2 2009
133 - 1 Vote, 8 Points - Fantomas 1913
132 - 1 Vote, 8 Points - Ghost Rider 2007
131 - 1 Vote, 9 Points - Batman: Year One 2011
130 - 1 Vote, 9 Points - Kick Ass 2 2013
129 - 1 Vote, 9 Points - Lone Wolf And Cub: Baby Cart At The River Styx 1972
128 - 1 Vote, 9 Points - Shogun Assassin 1980
127 - 3 Votes, 9 Points - Constantine 2005
126 - 1 Vote, 10 Points - Art School Confidential 2006
125 - 1 Vote, 10 Points - Casper 1995
124 - 1 Vote, 10 Points - Kamikaze Girls 2004
123 - 1 Vote, 11 Points - Fist Of The North Star 1986
122 - 1 Vote, 11 Points - Judge Dredd 1995
121 - 1 Vote, 11 Points - One Piece Film: Strong World
120 - 3 Votes, 11 Points - 30 Days Of Night 2007
119 - 1 Vote, 12 Points - Barbarella 1968
118 - 1 Vote, 12 Points - Batman Forever 1995
117 - 2 Votes, 12 Points - The Shadow 1994
116 - 1 Vote, 13 Points - Berserk Golden Arc Part 2: The Battle For Doldrey 2012
115 - 1 Vote, 13 Points - Bullet To The Head 2012
114 - 1 Vote, 14 Points - Berserk Golden Arc Part 3: Descent 2013
113 - 1 Vote, 14 Points - Death Note 2006
112 - 1 Vote, 14 Points - Les Douze Travaux D'Astérix 1976
111 - 1 Vote, 15 Points - Bonjour Galaxy Express 999 1979
110 - 1 Vote, 15 Points - Killer Condom 1996
109 - 1 Vote, 15 Points - Weird Science 1985
108 - 2 Votes, 15 Points - Ghost In The Shell: Innocence 2004
107 - 1 Vote, 16 Points - Lady Snowblood 1973
106 - 1 Vote, 16 Points - Nana 2005
105 - 1 Vote, 16 Points - Over The Hedge 2006
104 - 1 Vote, 16 Points - Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2: The Secret Of The Ooze 1991
103 - 1 Vote, 16 Points - Urusei Yatsura 2: Beautiful Dreamer 1984
102 - 2 Votes, 16 Points - Batman: The Movie 1966
101 - 2 Votes, 16 Points - From Hell 2001

100. Fritz The Cat (1972) 17
99. One Piece Film: Z (2012) 17
98. Azumi (2003) 17
97. Beck (2010) 18
96. Ghost In The Shell SAC Solid State Society (2006) 18
95. From Up On Poppy Hill (2011) 18
94. Ninja Bugei-Chô (1967) 19
93. Superman Returns (2006) 19
92. Tomie (1999) 20
91. Cowboys And Aliens (2011) 21
90. Batman And Robin (1997) 22
89. Stardust (2007) 22
88. Vampire Hunter D (1985) 22
87. The Adventures Of Tintin (2011) 23
86. Air Doll (2009) 24
85. K-On! The Movie (2011) 24
84. Conan The Destroyer (1984) 24
83. Red (2010) 24
82. The Disappearance Of Haruhi Suzumiya (2010) 25
81. Lone Wolf And Cub: Sword Of Vengeance (1972) 26
80. X Men The Last Stand (2006) 26
79. Daredevil (2003) 28
78. Green Lantern (2011) 29
77. Spawn (1997) 29
76. Speed Racer (2008) 30
75. Hulk (2003) 30
74. X Men Origins: Wolverine (2009) 31
73. The Mask (1994) 31
72. Memories (1995) 32
71. Tales From The Crypt (1972) 32
70. Addams Family Values (1993) 32
69. Howard The Duck (1986) 36
68. When The Wind Blows (1986) 38
67. The Rocketeer (1991) 38
66. Heavy Metal (1981) 40
65. Mystery Men (1999) 40
64. Tekkonkinkreet (2006) 40
63. Only Yesterday (1991) 42
62. Popeye (1980) 43
61. The Addams Family (1991) 43
60. Blade 2 (2002) 43
59. Ichi The Killer (2001) 44
58. Batman: The Mask Of Phantasm (1993) 45
57. Battle Royale (2000) 46
56. Wanted (2008) 47
55. Tank Girl (1995) 49
54. The Wolverine (2013) 49
53. The Incredible Hulk (2008) 50
52. Spider-Man 3 (2007) 52
51. The Punisher (2004) 58
50. Porco Rosso (1992) 59
49. Dick Tracy (1990) 60
48. Hugo (2011) 66
47. Where The Wild Things Are (2009) 75
46. Hellboy 2: The Golden Army (2008) 78
45. American Splendor (2003) 78
44. Man Of Steel (2013) 80
43. Superman 2 (1980) 82
42. Whisper Of The Heart (1995) 87
41. Conan The Barbarian (1982) 88
40. Ghost In The Shell (1995) 88
39. Iron Man 3 (2013) 102
38. Captain America: The First Avenger (2011) 102
37. The Amazing Spider-Man (2012) 103
36. Blue Is The Warmest Colour (2013) 105
35. Scott Pilgrim Vs The World (2010) 106
34. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1990) 115
33. Ghost World (2001) 116
32. Iron Man 2 (2010) 118
31. The Life And Death Of Colonel Blimp (1943) 120
30. Road To Perdition (2002) 123
29. Men In Black (1997) 123
28. Batman Returns (1992) 124
27. Kick-Ass (2010) 145
26. Superman: The Movie (1978) 154
25. Hellboy (2004) 156
24. 300 (2007) 163
23. X Men (2000) 164
22. Blade (1998) 165
21. The Crow (1994) 171
20. Dredd (2012) 173
19. Persepolis (2007) 175
18. A History Of Violence (2005) 177
17. Nausicaä Of The Valley Of The Wind (1984) 184
16. Akira (1988) 195
15. Spider-Man (2002) 199
14. X Men: First Class (2011) 203
13. Thor (2011) 210
12. X2: X Men United (2003) 241
11. V For Vendetta (2005) 244
10. Batman (1989) 259
09. Watchmen (2009) 273
08. Oldboy (2003) 290
07. Spider-Man 2 (2004) 335
06. The Dark Knight Rises (2012) 350
05. Iron Man (2008) 422
04. The Avengers (2012) 441
03. Sin City (2005) 483
02. Batman Begins (2005) 487
01. The Dark Knight (2008) 626

[rauldc14]

My pathetic list:

1. The Dark Knight
2. Iron Man
3. V for Vendetta
4. The Avengers
5. Man of Steel
6. Spider-Man 2
7. Sin City
8. Iron Man 2
9. Thor
10. The Dark Knight Rises
11. X Men Origins: Wolverine
12. Spider-Man
13. Spider-Man 3
14. Batman Begins
15. Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind
16. Casper
17. 300
18. Ghost Rider
19. Captain America
20. Wanted
21. Fantastic 4
22. Charlie Brown Christmas
23. It's the Great Pumpkin Charlie Brown
24. Cowboys and Aliens
25. Hulk

[Holden Pike]

I had SIN CITY as my number one (twenty-five points), I am one of the few (unsurprisingly) who PREFERS Batman Begins to The Dark Knight, which I had as my numbers seven and eleven, respectively (nineteen and fifteen points), and then I had The Avengers right behind it as my number twelve (fourteen points).

My entire list...

1. SIN CITY (#3)
2. Where the Wild Things Are (#47)
3. Conan the Barbarian (#41)
4. Persepolis (#19)
5. Scott Pilgrim vs. the World (#35)
6. Ghost World (#33)
7. Batman Begins (#2)
8. The Rocketeer (#67)
9. American Splendor (#45)
10. HUGO (#48)
11. The Dark Knight (#1)
12. The Avengers (#4)
13. Iron Man (#5)
14. Men In Black (#29)
15. The Addams Family (#61)
16. Addams Family Values (#70)
17. V for Vendetta (#11)
18. Akira (#16)
19. Superman: The Movie (#26)
20. X-Men: First Class (#14)
21. A History of Violence (#18)
22. The Rabbi's Cat (DNP)
23. Mystery Men (#65)
24. Flash Gordon (DNP)
25. Dick Tracy (#49)

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[teeter_g]

Here is my list in its entirety:

1 Green Lantern (#78)
2 The Dark Knight (#1)
3 The Avengers (#4)
4 Tank Girl (#55)
5 The Crow (#21)
6 Dredd (#20)
7 Blade (#22)
8 Iron Man (#5)
9 Batman (#10)
10 Over The Hedge (#105)
11 X-Men (#23)
12 Wanted (#56)
13 Spawn (#77)
14 Batman Returns (#28)
15 Judge Dredd (#122)
16 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (#34)
17 Superman (#26)
18 Sin City (#3)
19 The Amazing Spider Man (#37)
20 The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen (#137)
21 The Punisher (#51)
22 30 Days of Night (#120)
23 Hell Boy (#25)
24 Watchmen (#9)
25 Constantine (#127)

I can't believe 30 Days of Night didn't make the list!

[Deadite]

The Dark Knight is over/underrated. Begin fight.

[Yoda]

The Dark Knight is rated.

[Masterman]

Glad Sin City finished so hight. Batman Begins and TDK are great, I always toss between the 2 as to what's better.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I started to say Sin City would be ahead of Avengers.

MY LIST (bold made it):

1. Conan the Barbarian (1982)
2. Conan the Destroyer (1984)
3. Spider-Man 2 (2004)
4. Batman & Robin (1997)
5. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1990)
6. Ghost World (2001)
7. Spider-Man 3 (2007)
8. Addams Family Values (1993)
9. The Addams Family (1991)
10. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II: The Secret of the Ooze (1991)
11. Killer Condom (1996)
12. American Splendor (2003)
13. The Dark Knight Rises (2012)
14. The Dark Knight (2008)
15. Spider-Man (2002)
16. Iron Man (2008)
17. Tank Girl (1995)
18. X-Men: The Last Stand (2006)
19. X-Men Origins: Wolverine (2009)
20. The Mask (1994)
21. Tales From The Crypt Presents Demon Knight (1995)
22. Tales From The Crypt Presents Bordello of Blood (1996)
23. Blade: Trinity (2003)
24. Howard the Duck (2006)
25. Watchmen (2009)

[Masterman]

^^^ you have some terrible taste in movies. :p

[Sexy Celebrity]

At least Conan the Barbarian showed up on this list. It was high on my '80s list, but didn't make it.

[Sexy Celebrity]

But I'm EXTREMELY upset about Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II.

[Captain Spaulding]

Seen 68/100.

[The Rodent]

I've seen 80/100 and 28/55 that didn't make it.


108/155... not bad.

[The Gunslinger45]

Naturally The Avengers was my number 1. The Dark Knight was my number two, so I am glad it won (not shocking at all too). Did not think Sin City or Batman Begins would be so high, but then again I voted for both so who cares. Thanks for the list Rodent! Nicely done!

1. The Avengers (2012)
2. The Dark Knight (2008)
3. Blade (1998)
4. Vampire Hunter D (1985)
5. Heavy Metal (1981)
6. Thor (2011)
7. Blade 2 (2002)
8. Iron Man (2008)
9. Sin City (2005)
10. Iron Man 2 (2010)
11. Captain America: The First Avenger (2011)
12. The Incredible Hulk (2008)
13. Batman Begins (2005)
14. 300 (2007)
15. Batman (1985)
16. The Punisher (2004)
17. Spider Man 2 (2004)
18. Red (2010)
19. X2 (2003)
20. Superman (1978)
21. 2 Guns (not showing up)
22. Hellboy (2004)
23. Dredd (2012)
24. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1990)
25. Iron Man 3 (2013)

[-KhaN-]

So proud to see Batman movies at number 1 and 2!!! I think we all knew how top 5 will look,but still I didn't think BB will be second I thought it will take 4th or 5th place.


1.The Dark Knight
2.Batman Begins
3.Avengers
4.Batman
5.Iron Man
6.Sin City
7.X-Men:First Class
8.X2
9.Watchmen
10.V for Vendetta
11.X-Men
12.Man of Steel
13.Spider-Man 2
14.The Crow
15.Batman Returns
16.The Wolverine
17.Iron Man 3
18.Man in Black
19.Iron Man 2
20.The Dark Knight Rises
21.Captain America
22.Constantine
23.300
24.Blade
25.Blade II

[Deadite]

But I'm EXTREMELY upset about Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II.

We all are. :D

[The Gunslinger45]

Seen 67

[Zotis]

Who voted for Fist of the North Star? :D

[cricket]

Surprised nobody else voted for Weird Science, my list-

1. Sin City (2005)
2. X-Men: First Class (2011)
3. Iron Man (2008)
4. The Dark Knight Rises (2012)
5. Iron Man 2 (2010)
6. Batman Begins (2005)
7. The Crow (1994)
8. Iron Man 3 (2013)
9. Superman 2 (1981)
10. Marvel's The Avengers (2012)
11. Weird Science (1985)
12. Superman (1978)
13. Bullet to the Head (2012)
14. Kick Ass (2010)
15. The Dark Knight (2008)
16. Road to Perdition (2002)
17. The Punisher (2004)
18. Dredd (2012)
19. Spider-Man 2 (2004)
20. A History of Violence (2005)
21. X-Men Origins: Wolverine (2009)
22. Spider-Man (2002)
23. Ichi the Killer (2001)
24. American Splendor (2003)
25. The Mask (1994)

Great job Rodent!

[Upton]

5 - The Amazing Spider-Man (2012)


19 The Amazing Spider Man (#37)

Curious for anyone who voted this movie > the first two Raimi Spider-Mans - What's better about it?

[The Rodent]

Better writing, better acting, better action, better effects. Basically everything.


Amazing Spidey is an origins story, it has a flashback to Parker's childhood and sets up a history.
Raimi had Parker as a school kid, then a teenager, then he was working at the Bugle... then he was fully grown up... all within the first film.

[JayDee]

The Avengers only making it to #4? Bulls*it!!! :frustrated:

Anyway of the top 4 I had three on my list, the only one that missed out (which I'm sure will shock many people) was actually The Dark Knight. Just don't have any love for it. Although I knew it was going to come top. On sites/forums dedicated to comic books and superheroes it tends to be 50/50 between TDK and Avengers, but on this 'movie' forum was always going to be TDK. Particularly given how many Nolan cultists we have. :D

Here was my 25 -

1. The Avengers
2. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
3. Iron Man
4. Spider-Man 2
5. Batman Begins
6. The Crow
7. X-Men 2
8. Iron Man 3
9. X-Men: First Class
10. Thor
11. Kick-Ass
12. Amazing Spider-Man
13. Hellboy II
14. Batman Returns
15. V for Vendetta
16. Batman : Mask of the Phantasm
17. Hellboy
18. Watchmen
19. Spider-Man
20. X-Men
21. Captain America
22. Sin City
23. Dredd
24. Superman
25. Iron Man 2


As I said several times I decided to stick purely to superheroes (with the odd judgment call), otherwise the likes of Oldboy would have come into contention. And had they been eligible both Thor: The Dark World and Captain America: The Winter Soldier would have made my list. Thor around 17/18 and Winter Soldier perhaps as high as top 5 depending how it holds up on rewatch.

[JayDee]

The Avengers only making it to #4? Bulls*it!!! :frustrated:

Anyway of the top 4 I had three on my list, the only one that missed out (which I'm sure will shock many people) was actually The Dark Knight. Just don't have any love for it. Although I knew it was going to come top. On sites/forums dedicated to comic books and superheroes it tends to be 50/50 between TDK and Avengers, but on this 'movie' forum was always going to be TDK. Particularly given how many Nolan cultists we have. :D

Here was my 25 -

1. The Avengers
2. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
3. Iron Man
4. Spider-Man 2
5. Batman Begins
6. The Crow
7. X-Men 2
8. Iron Man 3
9. X-Men: First Class
10. Thor
11. Kick-Ass
12. Amazing Spider-Man
13. Hellboy II
14. Batman Returns
15. V for Vendetta
16. Batman : Mask of the Phantasm
17. Hellboy
18. Watchmen
19. Spider-Man
20. X-Men
21. Captain America
22. Sin City
23. Dredd
24. Superman
25. Iron Man 2


As I said several times I decided to stick purely to superheroes (with the odd judgment call), otherwise the likes of Oldboy would have come into contention. And had they been eligible both Thor: The Dark World and Captain America: The Winter Soldier would have made my list. Thor around 17/18 and Winter Soldier perhaps as high as top 5 depending how it holds up on rewatch.

[Deadite]

Nolan cultists? I find that highly offensive! Just because I pray to Him and have a shrine where I keep all his movies doesn't make me a "cultist".

[The Rodent]

I can imaging the Monk's chant... "Nohohohohohoho-ho-o-lern!!!"

[Deadite]

That's not it at all. :mad:

[-KhaN-]

You say Avengers being 4th is bullshi# but you dont have TDK in your list...My friend,that is bullshi# :D ...Ofc everyone can have opinion.

[mark f]

OK - why not?

1 The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp 43
2 The Dark Knight 08
3 Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind 84
4 Batman 89
5 Superman 78
6 Conan the Barbarian 82
7 The Avengers 12
8 Iron Man 08
9 The Rocketeer 91
10 Batman: Mask of the Phantasm 93
11 Batman Begins 05
12 Oldboy 03
13 V for Vendetta 05
14 Batman Returns 92
15 Men in Black 97
16 Kick-Ass 10
17 Akira 88
18 The Dark Knight Rises 12
19 Sin City 05
20 Scott Pilgrim vs. the World 10
21 Tales from the Crypt 72
22 Persepolis 07
23 Superman II 80
24 Howard the Duck 86
25 Spider-Man 2 04

[Godoggo]

Sin City was really high on my list. Too bad it wasn't #1. I love that movie.

Can anyone remind me where Persepolis came in?

[Camo]

Sin City was really high on my list. Too bad it wasn't #1. I love that movie.

Can anyone remind me where Persepolis came in?

19 overall, 14 on my list :)

[Godoggo]

Thanks. It was # 2 on mine.

[Godoggo]

Forgot to mention that I've seen Blue is the Warmest Color recently and it would have definitely made my list had I seen it on time.

I also recently saw a movie based on a comic book called 17 and Life Jailbait. Never read the comic, but the movie was an offensive craptastic turd.

[Zotis]

Haha, I saw part of 17 and Life Jailbait, it was horrible. I turned it off in like ten minutes. Glad you liked Blue Is the Warmest Color! The original title better translates, The Life of Adele - Part 1 and 2.

[Godoggo]

I can't believe I set through the whole thing. I felt like I needed a shower afterwords. :sick:

[Zotis]

That's pretty funny.

[gandalf26]

Man of Steel is more tolerable than TDKR for me, but only because Henry Cavill and Russell Crowe are hot and Christian Bale... isn't. Tom Hardy can be attractive, but not as Bane.



So the greatest movie ever for you would be anything with loads of male models in right?

[mark f]

That's Sexy; at least if they're certain types of models. :)

[jiraffejustin]

Great job running this thing, Rodent. Here it is on IMDb: http://www.imdb.com/list/ls058132820/

I am pleased that Batman Begins was #2, I knew nothing would dethrone The Dark Knight. So at least the best superhero movie yet came in second.

Who voted for Killer Condom? I was going to watch it, but for whatever reason I never did.


MY LIST

#1 - Whisper of the Heart (#42)
#2 - Blue is the Warmest Color (#36)
#3 - Batman Begins (#2)
#4 - Ghost in the Shell (#40)
#5 - Only Yesterday (#63)
#6 - Porco Rosso (#50)
#7 - The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp (#31)
#8 - Oldboy (#8)
#9 - Watchmen (#9)
#10 - The Dark Knight Rises (#6)
#11 - The Dark Knight (#1)
#12 - Sin City (#12)
#13 - The Addams Family (#61)
#14 - Barbarella (not ranked)
#15 - Persepolis (#19)
#16 - Akira (#16)
#17 - Hugo (#48)
#18 - V for Vendetta (#11)
#19 - Dredd (#20)
#20 - Tekkonkinkreet (#64)
#21 - Dick Tracy (#49)
#22 - American Splendor (#45)
#23 - Lone Wolf and Cub: Sword of Vengeance (#81)
#24 - Road to Perdition (#30)
#25 - Lone Wolf and Cub: Baby Cart in Peril (not ranked)

[Masterman]

So the greatest movie ever for you would be anything with loads of male models in right?

No. She's saying both movies are pretty crap, but Man Of Steel has more eye candy.

But Man Of Steel is better anyway. Even without the eye candy.

[Zotis]

How come no one voted for Supergirl? It's way better than all the Superman movies.

[The Rodent]

Great job running this thing, Rodent. Here it is on IMDb: http://www.imdb.com/list/ls058132820/

I am pleased that Batman Begins was #2, I knew nothing would dethrone The Dark Knight. So at least the best superhero movie yet came in second.

Who voted for Killer Condom? I was going to watch it, but for whatever reason I never did.


MY LIST

#1 - Whisper of the Heart (#42)
#2 - Blue is the Warmest Color (#36)
#3 - Batman Begins (#2)
#4 - Ghost in the Shell (#40)
#5 - Only Yesterday (#63)
#6 - Porco Rosso (#50)
#7 - The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp (#31)
#8 - Oldboy (#8)Q
#9 - Watchmen (#9)
#10 - The Dark Knight Rises (#6)
#11 - The Dark Knight (#1)
#12 - Sin City (#12)
#13 - The Addams Family (#61)
#14 - Barbarella (not ranked)
#15 - Persepolis (#19)
#16 - Akira (#16)
#17 - Hugo (#48)
#18 - V for Vendetta (#11)
#19 - Dredd (#20)
#20 - Tekkonkinkreet (#64)
#21 - Dick Tracy (#49)
#22 - American Splendor (#45)
#23 - Lone Wolf and Cub: Sword of Vengeance (#81)
#24 - Road to Perdition (#30)
#25 - Lone Wolf and Cub: Baby Cart in Peril (not ranked)



You put it on IMDb? Cool :D :up:

[Sexy Celebrity]

I was the one who voted for Killer Condom. Duh.

Anyway, great list. I hope it's added to the lists section. All 100 movies.

[jiraffejustin]

I was the one who voted for Killer Condom. Duh.

Anyway, great list. I hope it's added to the lists section. All 100 movies.

I should have known. :p

[Holden Pike]

Anyway, great list. I hope it's added to the lists section. All 100 movies.

It won't be. Not all hundred. Thank gawd.

[The Rodent]

I have spoken with Yods... it won't be.


Not saying what it will be, but it's not all 100. You'll have to find out.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Outrageous. I'm leaving the site until you make it Top 100. Goodbye.

[The Rodent]

Outrageous. I'm leaving the site again until you make it Top 100. Goodbye.



Fixed.

[Holden Pike]

Outrageous. I'm leaving the site until you make it Top 100. Goodbye.
THAT'S all it took to get him to leave? Finally.

[Sexy Celebrity]

No, this really pisses me off. I don't agree that we need to cut it down to a smaller number just because of certain movies that made the list. How do I know if the list wouldn't stay at 100 if Batman and Robin didn't happen to make it? And I bet if more "respectable" movies had been all throughout all 100, even if they only got one vote, I bet all 100 films would have made the official list.

Screw this. I'm out of here.

[Holden Pike]

It's about the math, as we said from the beginning. Having 80% of all the movies voted for, many of the bottom of the list only having had one person vote for them, is not the same standard as the other lists. Has nothing to do with which films they were.

Bye.

[mikeython1]

1.The Dark Night
2.Batman (1989)
3.Road Perdition
4.V for Vendetta
5.Dick Tracey (1990)
6.Iron Man (2008)
7.Spiderman (2002)
8.Hellboy
9.The Avengers (2012)
10.Batman Begins
11.Sin City
12.X-Men (2000)
13.Blade
14.The Dark Knight Rises
15.Thor
16.Cowboys Vs. Aliens
17.The Crow
18.Superman (1978)
19.Howard the Duck
20.The Shadow
21.Watchmen
22.Wanted
23.X-Men First Class
24.Darkman
25.Men In Black

Honestly I forgot about Oldboy It would have probably placed in my Top 5! :facepalm:

[Deadite]

No, this really pisses me off. I don't agree that we need to cut it down to a smaller number just because of certain movies that made the list. How do I know if the list wouldn't stay at 100 if Batman and Robin didn't happen to make it? And I bet if more "respectable" movies had been all throughout all 100, even if they only got one vote, I bet all 100 films would have made the official list.

Screw this. I'm out of here.

Why so serious? :rolleyes:

[The Rodent]

1.The Dark Night
2.Batman (1989)
3.Road Perdition
4.V for Vendetta
5.Dick Tracey (1990)
6.Iron Man (2008)
7.Spiderman (2002)
8.Hellboy
9.The Avengers (2012)
10.Batman Begins
11.Sin City
12.X-Men (2000)
13.Blade
14.The Dark Knight Rises
15.Thor
16.Cowboys Vs. Aliens
17.The Crow
18.Superman (1978)
19.Howard the Duck
20.The Shadow
21.Watchmen
22.Wanted
23.X-Men First Class
24.Darkman
25.Men In Black

Honestly I forgot about Oldboy It would have probably placed in my Top 5! :facepalm:



That was your first list with The Shadow and Darkman on it... you had to replace them...


Can't remember what your replacements were as I've emptied my computer of the Word Docs.

[Sexy Celebrity]

It's about the math, as we said from the beginning. Having 80% of all the movies voted for, many of the bottom of the list only having had one person vote for them, is not the same standard as the other lists. Has nothing to do with which films they were.

Bye.

Why so serious? :rolleyes:

On the other lists, though, haven't low movies made it to the lists thanks to only TWO people voting for it?

What's so different about one voter and two voters? Or even three? There are 7 billion people on this planet. Two or three voters isn't such a drastic difference from one voter when you think about it. When you think about how many other people didn't vote in the countdown.

This is absurd. I bet if Batman and Robin hadn't made this list, this wouldn't be happening. Nobody would have even cared. Or if Holden would just stop running his mouth thinking he knows everything.

[Swan]

When is this going to be put in the lists section?

[The Rodent]

It's a surprise :D

[Sexy Celebrity]

Put it in the handicapped section since you're cutting off its legs.

[Swan]

I'll be pissed if it's not the full 100.

[rauldc14]

Outrageous. I'm leaving the site until you make it Top 100. Goodbye.

You can't leave. We have an important Saturday commentary.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I'll be pissed if it's not the full 100.

You hear that? Lynch mob's coming.

[Yoda]

It's gonna be top 50. It's going up tomorrow. And you're a straight-up crazy person if you think that's a bad idea.

[Swan]

http://nooooooooooooooo.com/vader.jpg

[Yoda]

That said: mucho thanks to The Rodent for doing a great job. He was patient, got a bunch of entries, and I like that he mixed up the reveal speed. And I dig the unifying texture on the posters, though given his penchant for graphics, it was no surprise that he'd do some cool stuff with that.

:up:

Give the man some rep, people!

[Sexy Celebrity]

It's gonna be top 50. It's going up tomorrow. And you're a straight-up crazy person if you think that's a bad idea.

I do.

[Yoda]

Then you're a straight-up crazy person

[rauldc14]

Somewhere, the directors of Batman and Robin, Tank Girl, Cowboys and Aliens, and Wanted are crying. They finally make a top 100 list and won't be recognized for it.


seems fine to me.

[Swan]

So are the directors of Fritz the Cat, Tales from the Crypt, and Heavy Metal.

:mad:

[rauldc14]

Fritz the Cat is a lock for the 70s list.

prob not true.

[Deadite]

On the other lists, though, haven't low movies made it to the lists thanks to only TWO people voting for it?

What's so different about one voter and two voters? Or even three? There are 7 billion people on this planet. Two or three voters isn't such a drastic difference from one voter when you think about it. When you think about how many other people didn't vote in the countdown.

This is absurd. I bet if Batman and Robin hadn't made this list, this wouldn't be happening. Nobody would have even cared. Or if Holden would just stop running his mouth thinking he knows everything.

Shut up! This is all your fault for voting for Batman & Robin.

[Sexy Celebrity]

We might as well include all 100 movies. This was our list. So what if several of the films only had one voter? When is the next time we're gonna have a Top Comic Book & Graphic Novel List? Long time from now. Maybe never. So what if one person voted? It represents us. It represents people who took the time to vote. The only reason -- THE REAL REASON -- the bottom 50 isn't being included is because of shame, embarrassment, and snobbery. Guarantee you this wouldn't be happening if the bottom 50 included only movies the snobs all liked, even if they only received one vote. These people just don't want something like Batman and Robin on the list. I am against this reason.

[Deadite]

This exclusion will not stand, man!

[Sexy Celebrity]

I won't be filling out this neutered list.

[Yoda]

The only reason -- THE REAL REASON -- the bottom 50 isn't being included is because of shame, embarrassment, and snobbery. Guarantee you this wouldn't be happening if the bottom 50 included only movies the snobs all liked, even if they only received one vote. These people just don't want something like Batman and Robin on the list..
Well, you're wrong; I first thought it'd be a good idea (though naturally I wanted to see what Rodent thought as well) before I'd seen the bottom 50.

I won't be filling out this neutered list.
That'll learn us.

[Deadite]

In all seriousness, I agree, Sc. It is pretty crappy that the list gets chopped because a few people aren't totally happy with it. Heck, I'M not totally happy but it was a group activity and I shouldn't have final say on everything.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Well, you're wrong; I first thought it'd be a good idea (though naturally I wanted to see what Rodent thought as well) before I'd seen the bottom 50.

I'll believe it when I see documented evidence. Otherwise, this whole fiasco started when Holden Pike flipped out over things like Superman Returns and Batman and Robin appearing, "diluting" the list, or whatever he called it.

[Yoda]

Nah; you already believe it, because whatever you say you know I wouldn't tell you a bald-faced lie like that.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Nah; you already believe it, because whatever you say you know I wouldn't tell you a bald-faced lie like that.

Maybe it's not a lie. Maybe you remember something that didn't actually happen. I have noticed you forget things a lot / your memory can be off.

[The Rodent]

I've recently been through my inbox and cleared it, but Yoda and I talked about it a while back.


I agreed on cutting the list down.


In hindsight as well, the Top 50 was much better received and I did agree after I'd started that I should have ekpt it shorter when people started complaining about how much of the bottom end isn't really a Populous Vote... so, a few hours ago Yods and I finally came to the agreement on using the Top 50 for the Lists Section.

[Deadite]

It's kind of mean, honestly. There are some movies in that bottom 50 I'd like to see remain too, but I guess my votes were ultimately a waste of time.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Yeah, the Top 50 was much better received because of what's on it.

But some of us liked the Bottom 50.

If you're going to cut it apart, then I'd like to see the Bottom 50 on a list, too. "The Bottom 50 MoFo Comic Book & Graphic Novel Movies List."

[mark f]

As far as I know, and Rodent and Yoda can correct me, nobody ever said publicly this list was going in the canon in any form (at least until now). I know it has the MoFo brand name attached, but is every such list going in? We have an ever-increasing number. :)

[The Rodent]

The Top 50 was better received because it was Popular Vote.


The bottom 50 were made up of 1 and 2 vote films.


Votes weren't a waste of time though, Deads, if I'd have held it as a 50, which is what the popular vote has shown itself as, your choices that came in within 100-51 wouldn't have shown anyway.


I agree on the choice of using 50... it keeps it neat and tidy and is more of a MoFo List...


I think including all 100 in the List Section, we may as well have all 155 as there wasn't a lot of difference between 51-155.


This whole thing stems back to me holding the actual Countdown as a 100 rather than a 50.

[Swan]

I just don't get the reason we're cutting it in half. There are good and bad movies on both halves.

[Sexy Celebrity]

As far as I know, and Rodent and Yoda can correct me, nobody ever said this list was going in the canon in any form (at least until now). I know it has the MoFo brand name attached, but is every such list going in? We have an ever-increasing number. :)

I'd rather have the list not be included at all than only including 50 of the movies, but it's Rodent's list and that's great that it's going to be included -- I just wish the whole list would be included.

[Swan]

There are even bad movies in the top 10.

[The Rodent]

Mark's right as well.


Even I didn't know if Yods was going to even add it to the sight until a few days after the Countdown had started. It was the fact I'd made it a 100, that Yoda contacted me and we spoke about cutting it down for the Lists...

[Deadite]

Well anyways, Rodent did a lot of nice work. I just wish the whole list as was voted for was being kept. It feels like cheating to favor some people's tastes above others. Sorry to say that but that's how it looks no matter how it's rationalized as sticking to a "plan" or whatever.

[The Rodent]

Also, some of my own choices will end up cut out too...

[Sexy Celebrity]

The problem is, Rodent, that you revealed the list as a Top 100, and that makes completists like me want the whole thing on an actual check off list. Especially when many of those movies came from my own list.

And I feel discriminated against, too, in a way, since I'm sure that bottom 50 is strongly being ignored thanks to many of my films, such as Batman and Robin, appearing on it.

It's like if the Top MoFos list could be added -- wouldn't people be pissed that the bottom 50 would be excluded? Planet News would be removed, for starters. Sir Toose. All bye-bye. And the majority of those only had one voter.

[The Rodent]

But the MoFo List is way more personal... we're talking about a few comic book movies in a list that I should have ct off at 50 in the first place.


The thing to remember though, is that it was fun to watch, fun to see reactions, and I enjoyed putting it together and making everyone fight.


:D


The MoFo Top Comic and Graphic Novel Movies: The Man Of Steel of MoFo Lists.

[Sexy Celebrity]

That's right. It was fun to see reactions.

Which is why it will be even more fun to see the reactions forever by including the bottom 50 and shocking the hell out of people when they see Batman & Robin on it.

[Deadite]

Besides it was never much of a "populous" vote anyway, considering it's only a small percentage of fans on one forrum participating anyway, I think. I can see how shutting out some votes just comes across as anal control freak elitism that way...

[The Rodent]

... just comes across as anal control freak elitism that way...



I thought you 'merican's were used to the top brass doing that. :D

[Swan]

I think I'm what Sexy would consider a snob because I like Bergman and Tarkovsky and stuff like that, but I really agree with him that this list is being cut out of general snobbery of what's on the bottom 50. But it shouldn't matter, because it's that way all across the list. Freaking Man of Steel made the top 50. It also shouldn't matter that the bottom half has less votes, because some of those movies are still important to certain people. Fritz the Cat is all the way down at #100, and I really care about it being on there. It's funny, I actually remember when it was posted, I thought something like "wow, it just made it, it would suck if something ended up happening where it was taken off. But that would be impossible!"

[The Rodent]

That's gone under my avi, by the way... :)

[Sexy Celebrity]

This forum doesn't know how to have fun anymore.

Only people like me and Deadite know how to bring fun to the forum.

[Deadite]

There are even bad movies in the top 10.

Yeah I wasn't too thrilled to see Rises so high but whatever, maybe we can make it a top 10 list then remove the bottom 5 or 6. :rolleyes:

[jiraffejustin]

You want 100 and not 50? http://www.imdb.com/list/ls058132820/

I've made IMDb lists for each of the three lists I participated in making, and I didn't discriminate against the lowly bottom halves of these lists. :D

90s (http://www.imdb.com/list/ls056604218/)

80s (http://www.imdb.com/list/ls059785013/)

[Masterman]

I'd have to agree that it's bullsh** to cut the list in half. I put a lot of time into my top 25 and now a big percentage will be cut?. Then I've wasted more time checking into this thread everyday from numbers 100-51 when there pointless.

[jiraffejustin]

If it was up to me, I wouldn't cut out the bottom half of the list....but does it really even matter? Who cares? The countdown was still fun either way.

[Deadite]

Obviously the people who think it's wrong and cared enough to say so care.

[jiraffejustin]

I must have missed those posts.

[Deadite]

It's been the driving discussion for pages...

[jiraffejustin]

I know, I know. I just think it's a silly thing to feel so strongly about. I don't think it really matters if Yoda puts it up as 100, as 50, or if he decides not to put it up at all. I didn't think the end goal of this fun project was to make an official list.

[Deadite]

It's not fun to be marginalized, though.

[Holden Pike]

This forum doesn't know how to have fun anymore.

Only people like me and Deadite know how to bring fun to the forum.

What are you still doing here? I thought I told you to go home and get yer fu*kin' shinebox?

[Miss Vicky]

What are you still doing here? I thought I told you to go home and get yer fu*kin' shinebox?

Did you actually take his threat seriously?

Holden, you've been here long enough to know better.

[Deadite]

I'll be pissed if it's not the full 100.

I just don't get the reason we're cutting it in half. There are good and bad movies on both halves.

Well anyways, Rodent did a lot of nice work. I just wish the whole list as was voted for was being kept. It feels like cheating to favor some people's tastes above others. Sorry to say that but that's how it looks no matter how it's rationalized as sticking to a "plan" or whatever.

I think I'm what Sexy would consider a snob because I like Bergman and Tarkovsky and stuff like that, but I really agree with him that this list is being cut out of general snobbery of what's on the bottom 50. But it shouldn't matter, because it's that way all across the list. Freaking Man of Steel made the top 50. It also shouldn't matter that the bottom half has less votes, because some of those movies are still important to certain people. Fritz the Cat is all the way down at #100, and I really care about it being on there. It's funny, I actually remember when it was posted, I thought something like "wow, it just made it, it would suck if something ended up happening where it was taken off. But that would be impossible!"

Yeah I wasn't too thrilled to see Rises so high but whatever, maybe we can make it a top 10 list then remove the bottom 5 or 6. :rolleyes:

I'd have to agree that it's bullsh** to cut the list in half. I put a lot of time into my top 25 and now a big percentage will be cut?. Then I've wasted more time checking into this thread everyday from numbers 100-51 when there pointless.

Doesn't matter what you think. Doesn't matter what Sane thinks. Or Swan. Or SC. Or me.

So quit yer bitchin. ;)

[Yoda]

Okay, time to clear a few things up.

First: where are people getting the idea that this has anything to do with taste? The original plan was 50, and Rodent and I talked about it some more long before we'd revealed the bottom 50. Taste has zero to do with it.

Second: it has to do with math. The pool of films for this list is dramatically smaller than it is for decade lists. Even less than half, in fact, so if anything 50 is a little on the high side. Take a look at the AFI Musicals list: it's 25 films. Why? Because there are fewer musicals. And there are fewer comic book films, too. So either a) the list becomes dramatically less exclusive and just becomes a list of almost everything anyone thought to list or b) it's correspondingly smaller. Seems like a pretty obvious choice to me.

Third: the list was not "cut in half"--the plan while all of you were voting was to have 50 (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=33164), so the idea that anyone put in any "work" that was then "discarded" just doesn't make sense.

And fourth: I don't know why people would be satisfied if one movie got on because they gave it one 8th place vote, anyway. I dunno about you guys, but I don't get excited just because I see films I like on here...I get excited because if they're on here it means other people recognized them, too. Otherwise it's kind of an empty thrill to have them represented. Rodent said the exact same thing (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=33164) in the announcement thread.

[Zotis]

50 seems like more than enough to me. When I was searching for movies for my list I was actually expecting to find more than I did. There really aren't that many.

[Swan]

Okay, time to clear a few things up.

First: where are people getting the idea that this has anything to do with taste? The original plan was 50, and Rodent and I talked about it some more long before we'd revealed the bottom 50. Taste has zero to do with it.

Second: it has to do with math. The pool of films for this list is dramatically smaller than it is for decade lists. Even less than half, in fact, so if anything 50 is a little on the high side. Take a look at the AFI Musicals list: it's 25 films. Why? Because there are fewer musicals. And there are fewer comic book films, too. So either a) the list becomes dramatically less exclusive and just becomes a list of almost everything anyone thought to list or b) it's correspondingly smaller. Seems like a pretty obvious choice to me.

Third: the list was not "cut in half"--the plan while all of you were voting was to have 50 (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=33164), so the idea that anyone put in any "work" that was then "discarded" just doesn't make sense.

And fourth: I don't know why people would be satisfied if one movie got on because they gave it one 8th place vote, anyway. I dunno about you guys, but I don't get excited just because I see films I like on here...I get excited because if they're on here it means other people recognized them, too. Otherwise it's kind of an empty thrill to have them represented. Rodent said the exact same thing (http://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=33164) in the announcement thread.

Okay, I guess that makes sense.

[The Gunslinger45]

I am a raging fan of comic book flicks. But a list of 50 makes sense. Even though that means Heavy Metal (a film I purposely put very high on my list so it would make it) gets cut, I understand Yoda's reasoning.

Besides, if the issue was about film snobby tastes, I don't think the whole comic book movie list would have been allowed let alone made an official list on the site. ;)

[Swan]

I concede! I forgot about the Musicals list. I always liked it because seeing one more counted as 4%. With this list it'll be 2%, so it's going to seem like I've seen a lot more comic books movies than I have. :D

[Deadite]

Well I still don't quite buy it. But I never expected anything to change. It figures our best list would get halved on some technicality BS. We may as well not have bothered.

At least Ghost In The Shell and Ninja Turtles made it.

[Zotis]

It's not really a "technicality" issue, it's the principle of the way the lists are done in general. If it's done for Musicals and other lists, why shouldn't it be done for Graphic Novels and Comic Books?

[Yoda]

The thread said it would be 50 when everyone voted. So if anyone thinks a list of 50 isn't worth bothering with, why did they vote?

[Deadite]

I'd need a comparison between the amount of participants vs. size of list and genre pool to draw from. If fewer mofos took part in this list than lists with huge pools of films to draw from, then yes, the result is naturally more films making the list with fewer voters. But that's okay because we're not trying to represent the mofos who didn't participate. Cutting the list then only makes it less representative because there was a small number of participants to begin with, who were voting on a GENRE, not a decade.

[Deadite]

The thread said it would be 50 when everyone voted. So if anyone thinks a list of 50 isn't worth bothering with, why did they vote?

I thought we had changed it to 100. Cuz liike, there are 100.

[Yoda]

But you didn't think that when you voted. Everyone voted for a Top 50; says so right there in the thread. Absolutely nobody objected to this.

The only thing that's changed is that now people got to see the next 50. Which apparently creates some new expectation, beyond what everyone actually signed up for.

[Deadite]

As far as I know, I voted in a 100 list. There are 100 films in it. I voted for some of those films. I really don't care how much math hoodoo you throw out until you answer my post above about comparing # of voters and list and genre pool sizes. Then I might feel a bit less shafted, bro.

[Zotis]

Hmm... but Yoda you say, it's right there in the first post that it's a top 50 list... except:

This has been so much more successful than I imagined at first. I was going to hold it as a Top 50…

… but the influx of votes over the past few months, and especially the week leading up to the deadline, has been awesome stuff, guys… and together we’ve got ourselves a Top 100 going on…

http://i1163.photobucket.com/albums/q552/The-Rodent/MoFo%20Comic%20And%20Graphic%20Headers/OfficialComicsHeader_zpsfde53698.png

Is it supposed to be a reflection of MoFo votes, or of actual movie pool size?

[Yoda]

As far as I know, I voted in a 100 list.
It said 50 the whole time. It was up for six months. How could you have possibly concluded you were voting for a top 100 when you voted?

I really don't care how much math hoodoo you throw out until you answer my post above about comparing # of voters and list and genre pool sizes. Then I might feel a bit less shafted, bro.
I certainly don't want anyone to feel shafted, but if someone feels shafted for getting exactly what they were told they would get, I'm not sure a lot can be done.

As for your questions--are you questioning the idea that there are fewer comic book films than there are films in a given decade? Because I would think that would be obvious.

And, going from memory, I think we got about three-fourths as many for this one as we have for recent decade lists.

Fewer submissions + smaller pool to draw from = smaller list. This math seems pretty far from hoodoo, to my mind at least.

[Yoda]

Hmm... but Yoda you say, it's right there in the first post that it's a top 50 list... except:
I was referring to the thread that solicited the votes--IE: what people were actually told they were getting when they decided to participate. Nobody objected until they got to see the next 50.

Is it supposed to be a reflection of MoFo votes, or of actual movie pool size?
It's a whole mix of things, really. It needs to be representative and meaningful. Obviously if one person participated, that list would be reflective, but largely pointless. And obviously if we were listing the Best Murder Mysteries Starring Morgan Freeman of All-Time, we wouldn't want more than a few even if every single member voted.

So, there's a lot to consider. But a good rule of thumb, I think, is that it should definitely take more than one person to get any film on one of these lists. Otherwise there's nothing really special about seeing your film on the list, anyway.

[Holden Pike]

http://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=14114&stc=1&d=1398955633

[Zotis]

I was referring to the thread that solicited the votes--IE: what people were actually told they were getting when they decided to participate. Nobody objected until they got to see the next 50.

Well then I think that pretty much settles it. If we're rewarded with a bonus by getting to see a longer list, and that makes our expectations change, and we impose on that... then all that's going to happen in the future is we won't get that added bonus any more.

Deadite, If you agreed to participate in a top 50 list in the beginning, then why are you insisting it should be a top 100 just because you were given the bonus of seeing the other 50 results? Was it just that Rodent didn't make it clear in this thread that the end result was going to be only 50?

[Deadite]

All I know is I took the time to make out a proper list using Rodent's helpful wiki links as reference. That was A LOT of movies to go through to refresh my memory and make sure I didn't overlook anything I thought worthy. I didn't just grab 25 off the top of my head. I redid my list until I got it right by my standards.

I also am unsure when Rodent decided to go full 100 list but it doesn't matter. He did. And that's what I've been judging the list by: it's full 100. And that list rocks. It's diverse. It represents ALL the people who voted.

The new chopped list doesn't. And just taken on its movie merit, that new list is ***** compared to the old one. It has a few greats, a lot of decents, and some crap too.

All I've seen in response to my complaints and other's complaints is a lot of handwaving and harrumphing. Sorry to say.
So I'm surprisedly gonna say that I must echo Sexy's sentiment: Y'all can keep your respectable list and keep where it don't shine, and it will probably be a long time before I participate in anything like this again.

[Zotis]

I understand that you'd rather have a top 100 list. That's understandable. But what is the real issue here? Why does Rodent posting a top 100 list mean the list that goes up SHOULD be a top 100 list instead of the top 50 list that was agreed upon before? Would you have done less work, or not bothered to participate if Rodent was only going to post the top 50?

[Yoda]

Sorry you feel that way, but I think the handwaving is all on the other side. You did indeed make a proper list--and you submitted it to a thread that clearly said "Top 50." And it said that for half a year. So literally nothing about your decision to submit a list contained even the slightest whiff of anything misleading or unfair.

And if there's been a good argument against the considerations of genre pool size and user submission total, I haven't seen it. Both point to a smaller list. If someone else thinks other considerations are more important, that's certainly debatable. But agree or not, these are clearly normal, rational reasons for favoring a smaller list.

All I'm really hearing on the other side is that people want more of their movies to show up. But when is that not true? What's supposed to be special about a movie that showed up because only you chose it? The whole point of making a site list is that it represents multiple people. That's what differentiates it from "Yoda's Favorite Comic Book Films," or what have you. When a single vote can put a film on the list, the whole point of having the list goes out the window.

[Deadite]

I already said why. I'm done with this topic and I wish I could take back my votes too.

[Zotis]

I think Rodent could have made a disclaimer in the first post of this thread that even though he was giving a top 100 list only 50 would be going up on the site.

But I still think you're overreacting Deadite.

[Yoda]

Here's the list, for anyone who'd like to fill it out. :)

Movie Forums: Top Comic Book Movies (http://www.movieforums.com/lists/movie_forums_comic_book_movies.html)

[Holden Pike]

After all of that work (watching movies? ICK!), Deadite only has every single film he voted for acknowledged somewhere in this thread, in plain view there for discussion and suggestions, in a thread that ain't going anywhere and will be referenced on this site for as long as the site is around (which so far is well over a decade, now).

But does he get to check off a little box? Nooooooooooooooo.

Totally get why he's upset and digging his heels in. :indifferent:

[Zotis]

A bit of a simplification of the issue Holden, but yeah the site list gimmick is no big deal. Getting to see the top 100 proceed in this thread and being a part of it is its own reward.

I don't like to invalidate someone's opinions when they're genuinely upset.

[Holden Pike]

I don't mind.

[Zotis]

I was talking about Deadite's feelings... :sick:

[Holden Pike]

Sorry, I'll clarify: I don't mind invalidating someone's opinions when they're genuinely upset.

[Zotis]

Ah, I see.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Here's the list, for anyone who'd like to fill it out. :)

Movie Forums: Top Comic Book Movies (http://www.movieforums.com/lists/movie_forums_comic_book_movies.html)

We do need negative rep back.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Sorry you feel that way, but I think the handwaving is all on the other side. You did indeed make a proper list--and you submitted it to a thread that clearly said "Top 50." And it said that for half a year. So literally nothing about your decision to submit a list contained even the slightest whiff of anything misleading or unfair.

And if there's been a good argument against the considerations of genre pool size and user submission total, I haven't seen it. Both point to a smaller list. If someone else thinks other considerations are more important, that's certainly debatable. But agree or not, these are clearly normal, rational reasons for favoring a smaller list.

All I'm really hearing on the other side is that people want more of their movies to show up. But when is that not true? What's supposed to be special about a movie that showed up because only you chose it? The whole point of making a site list is that it represents multiple people. That's what differentiates it from "Yoda's Favorite Comic Book Films," or what have you. When a single vote can put a film on the list, the whole point of having the list goes out the window.

I accidentally positive repped this, so there should be one less rep for it.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Anyway, I'm proud of Deadite for speaking up.

I'd drop out of the '70s Movie Countdown just to follow in his footsteps of never doing these things again, but I've already submitted and my participation only means terror to everyone else.

[Holden Pike]

If you do want to withdraw your list, lemme know.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I should since you're all just going to talk to me like that.

[Zotis]

Negative rep just makes people feel bad.

[Holden Pike]

You brought it up, Bubby, not me.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Negative rep just makes people feel bad.

I agree and that was why I pushed to have it removed.

Though, when it makes people feel bad and they should feel bad because I think so, good.

[Masterman]

Yoda should being neg rep back. Nothing gets you more angrier than one of your posts getting negged.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I'm sure if Yoda could make it happen, this place would have negative rep and more torture devices than those seen in Quills.

[mark f]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fH2FOn1V5g

[Sexy Celebrity]

What do you think you are, Mark? My "get off the stage" Oscars music?

[Deadite]

If you do want to withdraw your list, lemme know.

I'm definitely no longer interested in participating. You've made it crystal clear what a d!ck you are.

[Holden Pike]

Likewise, I'm sure.

[Daniel M]

I think that looking at the films from 50-100 there was not much reason to expand in the first place, if we expanding the 70s (or 80s, or 90s) lists to try and display and represent everyone's votes and tastes, we'd have 300+ films. I have heard of all 50 films on this list, and I think it is a solid representation of films that makes sense, where as the 50-100 are films that sometimes only one person has voted for and don't really hold much weight.

[Holden Pike]

Don't try being reasonable and using logic, Daniel. That has been tried, ad nauseum. We're down to name calling, now. I posted this a month ago, to no avail...

But to me this is like the NHL playoffs now. Practically EVERYbody got in, so who cares what films are on the list, until you get to the top of it? You should lose two-thirds of the list. Skepsis had 371 different titles submitted for the 1980s list. That means only 27% of the movies made it to the spotlight, which made both the countdown dramatic and also an accomplishment to make the cut. You are having closer to 65% of the comic book titles make it...so who cares? If you made your list the top fifty, that's about 33%, and much more in line with the percentage/prestige of the big decade lists. If you only named the top twenty-five, then it's only about 16% that are making the cut, and that's truly elite!

Put it this way, just go by the numbers: if Skepsis' 1980s list used the same percentage of entries you are using, it would have been The Top 241 Movies of the 1980s. And then who gives a fart? That's just silly.

I respect the enthusiasm, but I fear you've diluted the product.

http://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=13451&stc=1&d=1396445736


Yoda just explained it very calmy and clearly several times. We're beyond that. The only people who don't understand are those who refuse to.

[Deadite]

Nah, I'm not calling anyone names for disagreeing with me, certainly not Dan or Zot. I called it like it is where YOU are concerned, bub. So take your strawman and stuff it.

[Zotis]

You could try understanding it from Deadite's perspective and not make him feel worse than he already does.

He sees the fun tool loosing some of its value, and that's legitimate. The list would be more interesting to him with more movies on it. It doesn't matter what was agreed upon. Just because it was agreed upon doesn't make it necessarily better. You have to validate other people's opinions. Don't just try and win the argument. I don't care what the end result of the list is. To me it's just a meaningless gimmick. But I would like to see Deadite participate in further lists because I enjoyed his contributions to this one. You could have just put your foot down and kept it a 50 list without hurting his feelings so much that he doesn't want to participate in any more.

[Holden Pike]

Wait...isn't that exactly what you do with a strawman? Stuff it? On it!

And I'm not the one who put my foot down. Also I tried to be nice until people started sticking fingers in their ears and throwing tantrums. When it reaches that point, fair game. Act like a child, get treated like one.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Yoda just explained it very calmy and clearly several times. We're beyond that. The only people who don't understand are those who refuse to.

Because I know -- okay? I know -- I've looked at an alternate timeline. I have used both my psychic powers and even Doc and I traveled there in the DeLorean -- I even astral projected there. I saw an alternate Top Comic Book & Graphic Novel Movies Countdown. Batman & Robin wasn't on it, but it included all sorts of other, more beloved movies. All the way from 100 to 1. Every movie was Wintertriangles approved. Many of them only had one voter.

And in that alternate timeline, Yoda added the list to the lists section and all 100 movies were added.

This is happening because of certain movies that were in the Bottom 50. You have just used an elaborate excuse to try to justify what you've done here. You dropped off those movies because of certain movies that were included. I know. I went to another dimension and I know.

[Zotis]

Sexy... are you saying he just didn't want to watch the One Piece movie? :p

[Cobpyth]

Because I know -- okay? I know -- I've looked at an alternate timeline. I have used both my psychic powers and even Doc and I traveled there in the DeLorean -- I even astral projected there. I saw an alternate Top Comic Book & Graphic Novel Movies Countdown. Batman & Robin wasn't on it, but it included all sorts of other, more beloved movies. All the way from 100 to 1. Every movie was Wintertriangles approved. Many of them only had one voter.

And in that alternate timeline, Yoda added the list to the lists section and all 100 movies were added.

This is happening because of certain movies that were in the Bottom 50. You have just used an elaborate excuse to try to justify what you've done here. You dropped off those movies because of certain movies that were included. I know. I went to another dimension and I know.

http://por-img.cimcontent.net/api/assets/bin-201404/ff420dcaf1c44e183bbff3ebc95c2c6c.jpg

[Sexy Celebrity]

I don't get it, but nice picture.

[Daniel M]

The movies didn't make the top 50 for a reason. Just like the films 100 to 371 that were submitted for the 90s list didn't make it to the top 100 of the 90s list.

[Sexy Celebrity]

But, I feel, if they were all 50 movies everyone considered GOOD -- and worth being on the list -- I know they would have stayed and all 100 would have been included. I just know this. I went to a universe where this happened.