The Rodent's Movie Commentaries

[Sexy Celebrity]

Goodnight, Rodent. Thank you. YOUNG GUNS!!!!!

[The Rodent]

Did you see Tom Cruise in the finale shootout?

[The Rodent]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=8fffcZddyrU

[Sexy Celebrity]

I did not. Didn't know to look for him. Will check next time. Which, if you're doing another commentary... should be happening now.

[honeykid]

Now this would've been great to be part of. :cool:

[Sexy Celebrity]

We have to do Young Guns II next.

[The Rodent]

Who's up for a commentary?


I got RoboCop, or Young Guns 2.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Um... I hate sudden, unplanned commentaries sometimes....

[The Rodent]

I've had beer, and I lost at pool tonight... I need to do a commentary.


YG2 or Robo... or something I have on DVD at least...

[The Rodent]

Your Avi and Caption are all wrong too. Your avi is YG, but the caption is YG2...

[Sexy Celebrity]

Alright. YG2. I have to load it, first.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Almost ready.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Ready.

[The Rodent]

Gimme a minute

[The Rodent]

Ok... Morgan Creek logo is up, and paused, say when...

[Sexy Celebrity]

Go

[The Rodent]

James G Robinson

[Sexy Celebrity]

Very simple credits compared to the first film.

[The Rodent]

Jingly guitar music

[The Rodent]

This is Brushy Bill ROberts intro

[The Rodent]

I think Roberts was Billy.
I think Garrett was a coward

[Sexy Celebrity]

Is my avatar from this movie or the first one?

[The Rodent]

Your avi is the first film

[The Rodent]

It's the scene with Charlie and the pig

[Sexy Celebrity]

That's some serious makeup on Emilio.

[The Rodent]

He's dying and wants to be pardoned

[Sexy Celebrity]

This is an interesting idea for a sequel.

[The Rodent]

Common knowledge... my arse. Billy was never killed by Garrett

[The Rodent]

Boom! Straight into the Wild West

[Sexy Celebrity]

Sorry you lost your match today.

[The Rodent]

Banging soundtrack

[The Rodent]

I lose some, I win some... I got some cash back from it though. Not much, but something,

[Sexy Celebrity]

Your Avi and Caption are all wrong too. Your avi is YG, but the caption is YG2...
I couldn't think of a different quote. I like this one.

[The Rodent]

Travers from Tularosa

[The Rodent]

Billy got shot

[The Rodent]

Proper burial?

[Sexy Celebrity]

Winter time. Doc teaching class.

[The Rodent]

Poor Doc, makes himself into a Teacher and gets dumped on.
He took after Tunstall.


In real life, he was a family man, who dies of old age.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Actually, I'm glad you wanted to do this now and not later tonight. Got something planned.

[Sexy Celebrity]

In real life, Doc wasn't shot and killed?

[The Rodent]

Billy and his mate Beaver... they both acted together in Repo Man

[Sexy Celebrity]

What time is it where you're at? It's 5:00 here.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Billy and his mate Beaver... they both acted together in Repo Man
They did?

[The Rodent]

Nope, DOc died in the 1920s of old age and had about 25 children.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Nope, DOc died in the 1920s of old age and had about 25 children.
He was busy.

[The Rodent]

MMr Pennsylvania... he should have been in the first film. He and Billy were good mates for years.

[The Rodent]

Tom was also in real life older that Billy.

[The Rodent]

This is fiction... neither Chavez nor Doc were ever imprisoned and rescued by Billy.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Chickens.

[The Rodent]

The Kid can have a chance at freedom... true in real life, and the backstabbing was also real.


Billy recently got pardoned for some fo his killings... by the modern Governor of New Mexico

[The Rodent]

In with the pigs again lol!

[Sexy Celebrity]

My DVD or DVD player had a weird screwup a second ago. I'm now at a shootout with Billy and Mexican music. Pigs.

[The Rodent]

Yep, should be meeting with Lew Wallis now

[The Rodent]

Lew Wallis wrote Ben Hur...

[Sexy Celebrity]

Yes.

This movie is more about Billy. The first one... was more about all of those guys, with Billy just in the lead.

[The Rodent]

True, both were false, Billy was never a leader. I said this on the last commentary. He was just a guy who had a name that sold newspapers.

[The Rodent]

The killing and escape later when he kills Bob Ollinger is close to real though... but is another incident that should have been in the first film.

[The Rodent]

Not a bloody chance in the pit of hades.

[Sexy Celebrity]

He shot all of the candles.

Now they're putting restraints on him.

[The Rodent]

Heh! I can't be sure, but I don't think Billy ever met Lew Wallis face to face. I think they spoke by mail.

[Sexy Celebrity]

In all seriousness, Rodent, how many times do you think you may have seen these movies?

[The Rodent]

Small hands, big wrists was ttrue too.

[The Rodent]

Between them, maybe 3000 times.

[Sexy Celebrity]

This is only my second time watching this.

[The Rodent]

I know more about the Lincoln War and Billy the Kid than most experts

[Sexy Celebrity]

I know more about the Lincoln War and Billy the Kid than most experts
Well, maybe you should get a book on it published.

[The Rodent]

This is ther fiction part. Billy never saved Chavez or Doc, because the two of them never got stuck in this situation.


This is totally artistic licence.

[The Rodent]

Rudabagh's horse though is awesome

[The Rodent]

Bon Jovi got shot!!!

[Sexy Celebrity]

Bon Jovi got shot!!!
Did not know Bon Jovi was in the Old West.

[The Rodent]

Bon Jovi was the prisoner who fails to shoot and does a backroll into the Pit.

[The Rodent]

A lot of this is now fiction...

[The Rodent]

Rudabaugh is close though, Slater nails this role.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Such an '80s cast. Estevez, Sutherland, Slater.

[The Rodent]

Alan Ruck joins the cast soom too. Him from Ferris Bueller.

[The Rodent]

I shall finish the game...

[Sexy Celebrity]

Alan Ruck joins the cast soom too. Him from Ferris Bueller.
Seriously??? Cameron? Did not know he was in this.

[The Rodent]

Oh, Billy and Garrett were never friends, at least not close enough to run together the way YG2 would suggest.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Is Garrett the bearded man on the horse?

[The Rodent]

Like with Chavez in YG and YG2, Chavez in real life was a twitchy murderer pyshco Mexican... not a spiritual Indian.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Which movie, do you think, has the better soundtrack?

[The Rodent]

Yeah Garret is the guy from CSI

[The Rodent]

This movie has the better soundtrack, but the first film is better overall/.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Like with Chavez in YG and YG2, Chavez in real life was a twitchy murderer pyshco Mexican... not a spiritual Indian.
But they had to make him spiritual because that's the stereotype with Native Americans.

[The Rodent]

Ferris Bueller!!!

[Sexy Celebrity]

Those dead guys in the coffins are kinda freaky.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I didn't see Cameron....

[The Rodent]

Hendry William French... he's cross over. like with the forst film, of numerous real life people.


He should also have been there in the first film.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Henry William French?

[Sexy Celebrity]

I'm a minute or so behind you.

[The Rodent]

He's a cross of Big Jim French and Henry Newton Brown

[Sexy Celebrity]

He's a cross of Big Jim French and Henry Newton Brown
I don't know who they are.

[The Rodent]

They should have been in the first film, but were merged with Chrlie Bowdre and Dirty Steve

[Sexy Celebrity]

They should have been in the first film, but were merged with Chrlie Bowdre and Dirty Steve
I don't know who they are, too.

[The Rodent]

Mr Chisum...

[Sexy Celebrity]

Did you ever see either of these movies in a movie theater?

[The Rodent]

Charlie got shot to **** by John Kinney and Dirty Steve was always chewing to tobacco.... in the film though, not in real lifew.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Yoohoo, Rodent. I'll make you famous.

[The Rodent]

I was too young to see them in cinemas.

[The Rodent]

I'll make you famous...

[Sexy Celebrity]

I was too young to see them in cinemas.
Well, I thought maybe your parents took you, anyway. I saw R rated movies in theaters as a kid.

[The Rodent]

I. Am. New Mexico.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Unless that's not allowed over there.

[The Rodent]

I didn't have the means. My nearest cinema was 25 miles and I was only 6 when YG was made.

[The Rodent]

Garrett meeting these guys is fiction crossed with fact.

[The Rodent]

In truth he was hired, but not because he knew The Kid.

[The Rodent]

He was hired because he was pretty tough.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Who plays Garrett?

[The Rodent]

Though in the end he was really a bullshitter and a liar.

[The Rodent]

William Petersen. Origtinal CSI actor.

[Sexy Celebrity]

William Petersen. Origtinal CSI actor.
Oh. I don't watch CSI.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Rodent, have you ever been to America? The place where this all takes place.

[The Rodent]

Not yet... I will though if the chance ever comes up. No cash for a holiday though

[Sexy Celebrity]

Not yet... I will though if the chance ever comes up. No cash for a holiday though
To visit these locations?

[The Rodent]

John W Poe... it's ARAGORN!!!!!


Poe is totally fictional too.

[The Rodent]

Oh yeah, I'll visit New Mexico...

[The Rodent]

Knife fight... legendary fight...

[Sexy Celebrity]

Oh yeah, I'll visit New Mexico...
I haven't been there myself.

[The Rodent]

You want you knife back?

[The Rodent]

He has to have a movement...

[Sexy Celebrity]

Are you still drinking?

[The Rodent]

Kinda, I've taken a slowdown while the film is on

[Sexy Celebrity]

Did I just hear "buffalo scrotum?"

[The Rodent]

This girl was the sexy women in Lawnmower Man

[The Rodent]

Yeah Buffalo Scrotum as a Baccy Pouch

[Sexy Celebrity]

Prostitutes.

[The Rodent]

He now needs a movement too

[The Rodent]

This scene is how Charlie Bowdre from the first film died. It's a cross between CHrlies's death, and Docs Death.


The way Doc dies in this film, is how CHrlie died, but in the way this film would recommend, from outside a house.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Emilio Estevez sure loves to show off his butt a lot.

[The Rodent]

It's like a lot of the characters, a midge modge of real life.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I can kinda see why you prefer the first film. A bit bored here.

[The Rodent]

Carlisle death was the lu=ynch mob's fault, but Nilly got the blame, so true again. He died with Charlie in that shooting,

[The Rodent]

My spelling is bad again

[The Rodent]

Charlie went on a rampage like Doc in this movie... but was gunned down... then when Carlisle left the building, the Lynch Mod gunned him down too and blamed it on Billy.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Who is Charlie?

[The Rodent]

We see Doc's death later, similar to Charlie's death.

[The Rodent]

Charlie was in the first film. He getds marriedthen says "It in't easy havin pals"

[Sexy Celebrity]

That unseen woman?/person screaming at the naked prostitute....

[Sexy Celebrity]

Yeah, I like the score to this movie.

[The Rodent]

Atsay!!!!

[The Rodent]

Even their horses are crazy

[Sexy Celebrity]

Next time, we should watch a movie I'm really into. Then I might have more to talk about.

[The Rodent]

I'm trying to give a history lesson :)

[The Rodent]

Oof! Tom got hit... this was close to real...

[The Rodent]

Tom never killed anyone... in real life though he did... like Billy he was a part of the group, and was a killer.

[Sexy Celebrity]

So what was the point of doing these movies if so much is false?

[The Rodent]

This scene coming up when Doc dies, is similar to the Carlisle death. In real life is was Charlie who died this way.
In the film, it's Doc.


The place is called Stinking Springs, New Mexico

[Sexy Celebrity]

By Charlie, do you mean Charlie Sheen?

[The Rodent]

No Charlie Bowdre. "Charlie's getting married!!!!"

[The Rodent]

Played by Casey Sciemeszko....

[Sexy Celebrity]

No Charlie Bowdre. "Charlie's getting married!!!!"
My memory about these events in the movies......

I'd have to watch them a few more times... very intently.

[The Rodent]

Charlie was the guy with the beard in YG who was sacred on John Kinney.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Do you think they could have made a third movie? Even though Doc dies.

[The Rodent]

So many recognisable scenes, so man =y wrong scenes.


Doc shouldn't even have been in this film.

[Sexy Celebrity]

So many recognisable scenes, so man =y wrong scenes.


Doc shouldn't even have been in this film.
But of course they couldn't not bring back Kiefer....

[The Rodent]

I would totally do a movie on The Lincoln County War and make it a close film.

[The Rodent]

Billy actually stood silent in court. He didn;t say a word.

[The Rodent]

This scene with Bell and Ollinger should have been in the first film.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I would totally do a movie on The Lincoln County War and make it a close film.
There's a thread idea here... cast this movie idea of yours.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I'll be right back. Don't pause.

[The Rodent]

I wouldn;t go in there if I were you

[The Rodent]

I'll make you famous!!!!

[Sexy Celebrity]

Okay.

[The Rodent]

Getting close to the end

[The Rodent]

Rudabaugh's natural ability tyo get in trouble... see how he was chaecking his machete?>

[Sexy Celebrity]

I'll make you famous!!!!
I didn't miss this 'cause he's.. he just said it.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I hate that he shoots and kills Bill.

In real life, though, I bet he wasn't that regretful about it.

[The Rodent]

Chavez is in trouble

[The Rodent]

He never killed Billy though. I think Roberts was Billy. I've studied photos... I think Garrett was a liar and a cheat, he also lied aboiut Billy's age.

[Sexy Celebrity]

It's funny how sometimes, at least with me, you don't recognize people in movies. Like here with Alan Ruck.

[Sexy Celebrity]

He never killed Billy though. I think Roberts was Billy. I've studied photos... I think Garrett was a liar and a cheat, he also lied aboiut Billy's age.
I meant Bill, the guy who drew his gun on Billy when he was escaping.

[The Rodent]

Billy wasn;t 21, he wasn't guilty of 21 murders... he killed 6 men, 3 of them while he was a deputy... and he was 19 years old when Garrett apparently shot him dead. In the back. Unarmed. In the dark.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I think I did once watch this on television... but not the whole thing.

[The Rodent]

Ah that was Bell...not Bill

[Sexy Celebrity]

Billy wasn;t 21, he wasn't guilty of 21 murders... he killed 6 men, 3 of them while he was a deputy... and he was 19 years old when Garrett apparently shot him dead. In the back. Unarmed. In the dark.
Such an exciting life to live already by the time you're 19.

[Sexy Celebrity]

What happened to the Asian Umbrella Lady from the first film????

[The Rodent]

Exciting, yeah, exciting no... I have pity and remorse for Billy.


Never a leader, labelled wrongly... also not guilty of what he was accused of. Nowehre even close.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Exciting, yeah, exciting no... I have pity and remorse for Billy.


Never a leader, labelled wrongly... also not guilty of what he was accused of. Nowehre even close.
Would you have been his friend if you could have known him?

Or do you think he'd shoot and kill you?

[The Rodent]

She married Doc, but he was taken from her in this film.


In real life, he and Charlie Bowdre married two sisters, and Doc raised those 20 odd kids with her.
The Chinese women in real life was a Mexican girl of only 15 years old.

[The Rodent]

I would have befriended Billy. He would have been a nice guy too. He wasn't a cold blooded killer.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I wonder if Billy has any descendents living now.

[The Rodent]

This ending is awesome.

[The Rodent]

He does.

[Sexy Celebrity]

He does.
How do you know?

[The Rodent]

Boom! YG2




Not as close as YG, but a good film.

[Sexy Celebrity]

What do you rate it?

[The Rodent]

Billy The Kid had cousins, and a Brother.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Did this little meeting with Old Billy really happen?

[Sexy Celebrity]

Christian Slater got beheaded.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Oh, he was even identified by old acquaintances.

[The Rodent]

Yes, Brushy Bill appeared in 1950, but was turned down. There are photos of him, and I've evenj gone out of my way to photoshop them to see... his facial features match perfectly to existing photos of The Kid.


Brushy Bill, was Billy The Kid. Garrett did not kill him.

[The Rodent]

Yeah he has old friends who said he was Billy too.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I believe you. It was probably him. I will go find some pictures of this guy.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Well, we have done commentaries for BOTH films now. Wow. Thank you, Rodent. Very educational.

[The Rodent]

There's been a recent new picture appear too of Billy. It's all over Google.

[The Rodent]

No probs, SC.


I can talk about LCW all day.

[The Rodent]

YG and YG2 done with... I have to find a new film to obsess over now.