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Im sure this thread will find some use.
DexterRiley
03-17-13, 05:04 PM
not from me not for a while. still beamen from the stellar draft i somehow ended up with. My pitching is spotty, but wont really know til the real games start.
(whats your offer for Zobrist)
:laugh:
Adamantium18
03-17-13, 05:06 PM
Who wants Bautista
Hey, it's Adam. First ever MoFo post. Say hello, everyone.
Yes, Dex, you always love your team, whether it ends up being good or not. :D
Whats up Adam. Ive traded with you and bs'ed in messaging enough to where youre not a stranger. Good luck :up:
DexterRiley
03-17-13, 05:19 PM
this has same exact feel as last year. i owned the draft maaan.
2 years ago i was swingen blind. More a Jays fan than an actual yanno baseball fan. So there is was draften Rios and Dunn in the early rounds. Purely guessen, no mocken.
Is there a 2013 shoot the breeze thread yet? i came across the coolest thing the other day and dont wanna muddy up the trade thread
DexterRiley
03-17-13, 05:20 PM
and Hola Adam. i didnt notice, did u raise a Cain?
Lorenzo or matt?
Looking through the teams, I think I like Suicide Squeeze's team the best. So, whoever that is, want to trade entire teams? Let me know.
Seriously though, everybody drafted pretty well. Whoever took Harper/Darvish at the turn of the 2nd/3rd is pretty ballsy.
Adamantium18
03-17-13, 06:50 PM
You make me feel so welcome. I never really thought to join the forum for Baseball. I have only been in this league for like 4 years
Adamantium18
03-17-13, 07:27 PM
Mark do you want to trade me Trout!
Adamantium18
03-17-13, 08:59 PM
But i will give you Marte straight up for him!!! :randy:
Adamantium18
03-17-13, 09:00 PM
I feel like I need a picture if I am to post on here
Adamantium18
03-17-13, 09:07 PM
Ahh there it is. I love the smell of napalm in the morning.
Awesome avatar. :up:
That's me and Adam at, like, 14-15 by the way. I'm on the left.
Adamantium18
03-17-13, 09:09 PM
TONGO how badly do you want Dez Jennings?
mikeython1
03-17-13, 09:13 PM
I need a shortstop bad. I want Jean Segura. Who do want for him PW?
You can get one through waivers. :)
TONGO how badly do you want Dez Jennings?
Ill probably want him bad if hes producing. Only player Id consider moving right now though is Mark Teixeira and Im gonna need a closer if Chapman does become a starter.
Btw great pic.
DexterRiley
03-17-13, 10:37 PM
and Hola Adam. i didnt notice, did u raise a Cain?
Lorenzo or matt?
You make me feel so welcome. I never really thought to join the forum for Baseball. I have only been in this league for like 4 years
oh ok that Adam. i was thinken u were the 14th man.
great Av, Chris so looks like a Boywer there.
Adamantium18
03-17-13, 11:14 PM
Those were the pre pube days no beards for either of us.
If anyones interested in investing in Mark Teixeira, he's projected to come back around June, then Im needing offense. A drawing point may be you can get him cheaper now then later. :)
Not interested in trading away my pitching at all.
I find it kind of amusing that your strategy this year was the exact opposite of mine.
I got my first trade proposal today. Exciting! So what do you all do: post the trade here, so everyone can mock it mercilessly?
Russell Wilson 9 wants my Wilhelmsen for his Putz. They're pretty close, but I'll stick with the closer with less mileage on his arm and the more forgiving ballpark. If you'd change it to Soriano, I'm in.
I find it kind of amusing that your strategy this year was the exact opposite of mine.
Yeah Cueto was your only pitcher in first 10 rounds. Ive just seen too many "sure thing" players get knocked on their ear with a slump. Even Pujols had a slump. Pitching seems at least to be more predictable.
I was surprised by your 2nd and 3rd round picks in Stanton and Gonzo. I think Giancarlo is the goods though, and time may show hes hits the ball with more power than anyone. Just didnt think you were keen on Gonzalez, but hey the Dodgers may work out for his numbers since last year was a fiasco overall for him.
DexterRiley
03-19-13, 09:46 AM
Yeah Cueto was your only pitcher in first 10 rounds. Ive just seen too many "sure thing" players get knocked on their ear with a slump. Even Pujols had a slump. Pitching seems at least to be more predictable.
Do you not recall Yodes Rotation last season? Haren, Lester and well everyon got shelled the first month or so.
Anyway its weird its 2 years in a row i was able to go Braun Hanley 1-2. Last Season Price was there in the 3rd which was an easy pick, but once the cream of crop studs come off board, i was all in on strenngth and speed.
time will tell.
Yeah, it's a tough call. I look at my team, and I guess it is kind of balanced across the board, with a tilt towards power. I have more speed than last year, less power, and my starters are clearly a step up in value when compared to last season, when Gallardo was my only "ace", and he was nothing of the kind. Also, I have closers this year! Good ones, too...
Yeah Cueto was your only pitcher in first 10 rounds.
I took Bumgarner in the 4th, as well. Cueto in the 5th.
Ive just seen too many "sure thing" players get knocked on their ear with a slump. Even Pujols had a slump. Pitching seems at least to be more predictable.
I think the exact opposite is true. And I would've gone even heavier on hitters if I hadn't been stuck at the back of the round.
I was surprised by your 2nd and 3rd round picks in Stanton and Gonzo. I think Giancarlo is the goods though, and time may show hes hits the ball with more power than anyone. Just didnt think you were keen on Gonzalez, but hey the Dodgers may work out for his numbers since last year was a fiasco overall for him.
I like him because he put up good numbers even in a "fiasco" season. As for Stanton, I wasn't targeting him, but power isn't as plentiful as it used to be. Last year, guys like Stanton who were basically a lock for nearly 40 bombs were in very short supply. I think the same'll be true again this year.
rauldc14
03-19-13, 02:43 PM
It may sound like a joke right now, but watch out for Salvador Perez. Oh, and I am willing to entertain offers for Kemp.
I got my first trade proposal today. Exciting! So what do you all do: post the trade here, so everyone can mock it mercilessly?
Russell Wilson 9 wants my Wilhelmsen for his Putz. They're pretty close, but I'll stick with the closer with less mileage on his arm and the more forgiving ballpark. If you'd change it to Soriano, I'm in.
You just completed your first trade with PW! You didnt even take the first offer! It was a good homer trade where PW gets Wilhelmson and gave up Soriano. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBPly1aT8y0
You just completed your first trade with PW! You didnt even take the first offer! It was a good homer trade where PW gets Wilhelmson and gave up Soriano. :)
Yeah, it worked out well! I usually don't trade much, but this seemed like a good deal. I didn't expect PW to accept the trade, but I didn't take the homerism into account :D
Adamantium18
03-20-13, 11:24 PM
What are you looking to get for kemp? Im interested
Oh, I forgot to ask: in the football league last year we moved the trade review time from 2 full days to 1 (with the period starting the day AFTER the trade is accepted, so anything accepted on a Tuesday would process Thursday morning). Do we want to do that here? The default is 2, but a lot of people liked the change in football so I thought I'd ask. I won't ask for unanimity, because I expect at least a few owners won't see this or won't reply. But we do need unanimity among those who do express an opinion, at least. And I'd say it's something we should either do in the next week, before the games start, or not at all.
Thoughts?
One day is fine with me...
One day.
I briefly forgot the context of this thread and thought this sounded like a threat. Cool.
DexterRiley
03-22-13, 11:21 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vy9FdYyNjhI
DexterRiley
03-22-13, 11:22 AM
Defending Champeens aprove of this measure. make it so Yodasan.
Also I decided to throw Michael Cuddyer to the Block along with Teixeira if anyone has a good startable outfielder they can spare.
Ive made a trade offer to get Carlos Gomez from syj, Teixeira and Cuddyer. Gomez is so new I dont know if Im overpaying, underpaying, or its just right.
edit in - Dilemna over. He said no.
Ive made a trade offer to get Carlos Gomez from syj, Teixeira and Cuddyer. Gomez is so new I dont know if Im overpaying, underpaying, or its just right.
edit in - Dilemna over. He said no.
Sorry man, I need Gomez's steals, and I'm not too confident in what Teixeria is going to offer once he's back.
rauldc14
04-02-13, 07:45 PM
This just in: Matt Kemp is upset over his contract with Peanuts&Crackerjacks. He has stated that he wants to be traded.
DexterRiley
04-02-13, 09:51 PM
This just in: Matt Kemp is upset over his contract with Peanuts&Crackerjacks. He has stated that he wants to be traded.
its way too early fashion monster trades imo, in a month or so, we'll all have a reasonable idea as to strengths and weaknesses.
Tulo goes deep again! Love it.
Tulo goes deep again! Love it.
Noticed you posted this in the trading block? Is there a reason or are you just Tulo teasing?
On a side note to everyone Im repositioning my stance on not trading away some pitching. Forget about Longo or Price y'all, but yeah Im open to doing some dealing. :)
Whoops, sorry. I wasn't shopping him (though I'm not necessarily against the idea if a good offer comes along), I just got the threads mixed up.
DexterRiley
04-04-13, 09:26 AM
Forget about Longo or Price y'all, but yeah Im open to doing some dealing. :)
Thats the Tongo Kiss of death. Price and or Longo are on the move.
:laugh:
DexterRiley
04-06-13, 02:10 AM
I'm sure everyone is shocked and awed, but me and Tongo have reached agreement on a deal.
Tongs is parting with SP RA Dickey and Cole Hamels along with 2B Emilio Benifacio in Return for OF Jacoby Ellsbury, 2b/OF/SS Ben Zobrist and SP Anibal Sanchez.
In a nutshell my pitching is attrocious, and this deal gives me Quality Arms i didnt get in the draft.
I'm sure everyone is shocked and awed, but me and Tongo have reached agreement on a deal.
Tongs is parting with SP RA Dickey and Cole Hamels along with 2B Emilio Benifacio in Return for OF Jacoby Ellsbury, 2b/OF/SS Ben Zobrist and SP Anibal Sanchez.
In a nutshell my pitching is attrocious, and this deal gives me Quality Arms i didnt get in the draft.
....and my offense was just as bad as Tims pitching. Fully expected to say no before viewing the offer, but it was a sound offer. Theres a nice dose of Homer in the trade ingredients to make it more fun for the both of us too. This trade receives the TONGO SEAL OF APPROVAL :up:
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TONGO, March 18th: Not interested in trading away my pitching at all.
TONGO, April 4th: I might trade away my pitching,
TONGO, April 5th: I traded away most my pitching.
rauldc14
04-06-13, 05:08 PM
I'm just waiting for the annual trade of Longo or Price and then the trade to get them back.
Frightened Inmate No. 2
04-06-13, 06:48 PM
Breaking News:
The Loose Seals are reportedly trading away second-baseman Aaron Hill to the Defending Champeens for outfielder Shin-Soo Choo. Neither players could be reached for comment. More on this story as it develops.
DexterRiley
04-06-13, 06:49 PM
Another Trade to Announce. With Zobrist off to Tongs squad, i needed a solid 2B to rely on.
Sin shoo Choo is on his way to the Loose Seals in exchange for Aaron Hill.
DexterRiley
04-06-13, 06:55 PM
In other unrelated breaking news,..... 2 tankers, 1 carryen red paint the other brown, collided in the south pacific this afternoon.
it is believed both crews are marooned.
we now return you to regular scheduled programming.
In other unrelated breaking news,..... 2 tankers, 1 carryen red paint the other brown, collided in the south pacific this afternoon.
it is believed both crews are marooned.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. :p :laugh:
TONGO, March 18th: Not interested in trading away my pitching at all.
TONGO, April 4th: I might trade away my pitching,
TONGO, April 5th: I traded away most my pitching.
It was a great offer imo. Still think Ive the best pitching in the league, or near it. Anibal Sanchez I feel will do better in Detroit, and the Tigers will get him the wins. I can use the 6th starting pitcher slot a committee strategy depending on matchups. Thats a very successful formula. This is the third season in a row where I got Jacoby Elllsbury thru a trade, and Zo is a top tier 2B in FBB. No regrets over here.
Why hasnt me and Dexters trade gone thru? I thought there was only a 1 day waiting period?
It hadn't been changed yet. We were waiting on as many owners as possible and very few responded. I've changed it going forward.
The settings are public at all times for you guys to check, which I'd advise if you're making any decisions based on them.
Powdered Water
04-07-13, 02:05 PM
Oh, crap. Sorry, didn't think I needed to respond unless I was against the idea. Yeah, totally in favor of a one day wait.
DexterRiley
04-07-13, 02:18 PM
It hadn't been changed yet.
thank goodness for that. Dickey is getten shellacked in the first. Knuckleballin doesnt dance in the dome apparently.
I sent an offer and email to Patrick coach of Loose Seals. Offering him Alfonso Soriano for Alexi Ogando. Want to seal that pitching slot and be done with it.
Edit In - After sleeping on it decided I was offering too much, and cancelled the offer.
Frightened Inmate No. 2
04-11-13, 06:53 PM
I never saw that offer, but I just made you a new one.
Ugh, Josh Johnson. If someone wants to try to buy low on him, I'd be pretty willing to give him up. I would need a SP in return though, because there is essentially nothing worthwhile on the waiver wire. I'm the Fightin' Fontenots, by the way.
Well me and Frightened Inmate #2, Patrick, coach of The Loose Seals have made a deal. I mightve overpaid for this one, I gave him Jason Kubel for Alexi Ogando.
What made me decide to accept was I went pitching rounds 2-9 so I wouldnt have any serious dilemnas pitching wise this season. Ogando has always been great, and I think I can fill Kubels absence with the Matt Adams, Brandon Moss, and soon Carlos Ruiz. Tex & Jeter will return in a month and I may be too offense heavy anyway.
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rauldc14
04-12-13, 04:05 PM
Struck an agreement which sends Jose Bautista to my team in exchange for Nelson Cruz and Josh Beckett. Love having Cruz on my team, but something tells me Texas isn't the team it used to be. Beckett has been more than average thus far. And obviously, Bautista has been injured and underperforming but figured it was worth a shot.
I wouldn't call Beckett's 4.91 ERA "more than average," unless you mean that the number is higher. ;)
rauldc14
04-12-13, 04:26 PM
ah, darn. My language is slipping. Less than average. His ERA well above average though, as you said.
Masterson: Shutout, Win, 9 innings pitched.
Could it be?
rauldc14
04-13-13, 10:01 AM
Masterson: Shutout, Win, 9 innings pitched.
Could it be?
Perhaps you won that lottery. I remember almost picking him up myself. And I could really use him right now.
Made a longshot offer to get Matt Moore from Tims Squeeze, Hiroki Kuroda and Vernon Wells. Trying not to overpay for any Rays, but Ill undoubtedly get more rejections taking the smarter slower route.
Edit in - Ended up cancelling the offer. Sent Tim a email explaining why.
rauldc14
04-13-13, 06:21 PM
Just got offered Tim Hudson for Matt Kemp. Should I take the deal? seems like a steal for me :rolleyes:. I mean come on we are 2 weeks in and I should surely trade my 1st rounder for someone's 15th rounder (or something close to that)
Seriously? Dex loses his right to make fun of you for at least a month, then. :p
:laugh:
Looking forward to getting Ogando tomorrow. My ERA is slowly improving. There were reports in China that my ERA was seen just below the surface of the ground. Was entertaining acquiring Hellickson or Moore this weekend, but after watching David Price hold the BoSox to 1 run, again, and the Rays couldnt put even 2 or 3 runs on the board in support, again. So I decided to stick with Kuroda the weaker pitcher because he at least has a team that can bat to back him up. Frustrating.
Oh and one more thing to bitch about - Luke Scott. He will miss almost the whole first month of the season for a right calf strain. How did it happen?! This is a true report to the press from Lukes lips "I drank too much water". #%@! WTF!? How?! Ive heard of marathon runners thatve actually died from such a thing, but not some designated hitter that only has to bat every 2 or 3 innings! You know what I say to that?
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Id pay him his contract, kick him to the curb with a lifetime supply of Zephyrhills Spring Water as a severance, and send up Wil Myers just so fast.
A big mea culpa, guys: I meant to switch trade review to 1 day, and apparently I switched waiver time instead. There hasn't been a lot of activity so it doesn't seem like it's changed much, except for the trade that would've gone through yesterday for Bautista, I believe. When it was brought to my attention (thanks Adam!) I put it through manually, seeing as how it was purely my fault.
Dusty's lineup needs to drop someone to make the trade work so Bautista is on the waiver wire for the moment, but please disregard him; I'll be placing him on Dusty's team as soon as he gets back to me.
DexterRiley
04-14-13, 12:48 PM
Just got offered Tim Hudson for Matt Kemp. Should I take the deal? seems like a steal for me :rolleyes:. I mean come on we are 2 weeks in and I should surely trade my 1st rounder for someone's 15th rounder (or something close to that)
Draft position doesnt mean a whole helluvalot when your Stud 1st rounder is batten the weight of a somalian refugee.
A big mea culpa, guys: I meant to switch trade review to 1 day, and apparently I switched waiver time instead. There hasn't been a lot of activity so it doesn't seem like it's changed much, except for the trade that would've gone through yesterday for Bautista, I believe. When it was brought to my attention (thanks Adam!) I put it through manually, seeing as how it was purely my fault.
Dusty's lineup needs to drop someone to make the trade work so Bautista is on the waiver wire for the moment, but please disregard him; I'll be placing him on Dusty's team as soon as he gets back to me.
Ok then LOL! I just went on the league site and saw Jose Bautista on waivers. My jaw dropped but still somehow laughed. I wish I knew how to do a screenshot cause thats something you just dont see everyday.
rauldc14
04-14-13, 04:12 PM
Draft position doesnt mean a whole helluvalot when your Stud 1st rounder is batten the weight of a somalian refugee.
That is just silly though. That's like me offering Betancourt for Ryan Braun
DexterRiley
04-14-13, 05:39 PM
That is just silly though. That's like me offering Betancourt for Ryan Braun
no, thats nothing at all like that.
Braun is hitting .340 with homers and Ribbies and everything. Kemp is Sh!ttin the bed every game thus far.
Also, You griped that with Weaver on the DL u were in need of a Starter. Hudson @ 18 ip 2 wins 13 K's and 2.50 era and 1.00 Whip. Bettencourt is a closer.
Do you even bother to check in on the standings to see what teams needs are?
Coz closing isnt for me.
So yeah in closing, not remotely the same thing. But thanks for playin.
Obviously, Braun hasn't struggled the way Kemp has. But even if he had the exact same numbers, I'm guessing you wouldn't dream of selling low on him like that.
I think if he'd said yes to the Hudson deal you would've cracked open a celebratory beer and done a little jig. :D But that's just my opinion.
I think if he'd said yes to the Hudson deal you would've cracked open a celebratory beer and done a little jig. :D But that's just my opinion.
x 20.
rauldc14
04-14-13, 10:01 PM
no, thats nothing at all like that.
Braun is hitting .340 with homers and Ribbies and everything. Kemp is Sh!ttin the bed every game thus far.
Also, You griped that with Weaver on the DL u were in need of a Starter. Hudson @ 18 ip 2 wins 13 K's and 2.50 era and 1.00 Whip. Bettencourt is a closer.
Do you even bother to check in on the standings to see what teams needs are?
Coz closing isnt for me.
So yeah in closing, not remotely the same thing. But thanks for playin.
Basically, what I'm trying to get at is players on other teams struggling are somehow worth nothing. But players struggling on your team would still hold value. Seriously if Kemp was on your team right now and I offered you, say Rafael Betancourt, whose been decent but not great, you would piss and moan about it.
2 weeks does not a season make.
DexterRiley
04-14-13, 10:02 PM
Obviously, Braun hasn't struggled the way Kemp has. But even if he had the exact same numbers, I'm guessing you wouldn't dream of selling low on him like that.
I think if he'd said yes to the Hudson deal you would've cracked open a celebratory beer and done a little jig. :D But that's just my opinion.
its not low though. its reality.
Matt Kemp is the position player equivalent of Tim Linecum, or Dan Haren.
Past glories and Triumphs dont count on the scoresheet.
Sure they do. Everyone takes past performance into account when deciding whether to wait a slump out. You, me, everyone.
Matt Kemp is the position player equivalent of Tim Linecum, or Dan Haren.
Holy crap! I hate to interject but must strongly disagree with you there. We are two weeks in, and maybe Kemps having a slump like Pujols did last year, but I would have to see Kemp tank for an entire season before lumping him with Lincecum & Haren.
rauldc14
04-14-13, 10:35 PM
its not low though. its reality.
Matt Kemp is the position player equivalent of Tim Linecum, or Dan Haren.
Past glories and Triumphs dont count on the scoresheet.
Past glories and triumphs >>>> 2 weeks worth of playing.
Players are playing awesome right now that will eventually fall to earth. Players are playing awful that will have all star years.
Adamantium18
04-15-13, 12:58 AM
True dat
DexterRiley
04-15-13, 01:10 AM
Players are playing awesome right now that will eventually fall to earth. Players are playing awful that will have all star years.
I'd make a wager with you that Kemp will not be an all star this season, except you'd welch, so whats the point.
Kemp will be an all-star. Being an all-star isnt as stringent as you'd first think. Longoria was an all-star last year when he'd only played 2-3 weeks. Playing at all-star level?! Wellll its possible. He's Matt Kemp.
There are certain players whose name is more valuable than their numbers. Kemp, Pujols, Verlander, Sabathia, and only a few others. Pujols was slumping something fierce, but greatness is his norm, and hes again golden. Heck look at Hanley Ramirez. He still is running off the fumes from 2 years ago. For me, I have more confidence Kemp will rebound than I did in Pujols last year.
Ok all this trade banter deserves a pic.
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Jordan Zimmermann is on the Trading Block. Looking for a great batter of equal worth.
Feel confident in losing Zimmermann cause I may have a regular starter in Wade Davis who has been great for the Royals so far, or Dan Straily who may get called up this week.
Sent an offer to Dustins Crackerjacks for Matt Kemp - Jordan Zimmermann, Aroldis Chapman, and Alfonso Soriano.
No I wont give up those three for Tim Hudson ;)
No offers on Jordan Zimmermann, and no interest in the little shopping around Ive done with him. Im surprised. He will probably hold more value in a month or two after all the new pitching prospects are grabbed up from waivers.
Btw, Dan Haren. WTF?! Im not saying dropping him was a mistake by any means, just surprised how far hes fallen from how fast he rose.
Adam offered me Hunter Pence & Fernando Rodney for Jordan Zimmermann and Mariano Rivera.
At first I was like no way and was gonna counter. Thing is I wouldve asked for Nelson Cruz, but Cruz can run hot and cold plus gets injured alot. Then I thought about switching Rivera for Papelbon, but the Phillies may get it together when Carlos Ruiz gets to producing, and too many pitchers in AL East is a bad thing. Rodney gets more K's than either Rivera or Papelbon, and I feel the Rays will give him more Save opportunities than they did in April.
So I said the heck with it and accepted. Zimmermanns had a great great April but I can see him falling off, Cruz tapering off, and Pence doing better than he did in April. Lets hope.
Actually upon further review Riveras K rate is as good as Rodneys, so I misspoke earlier. Upon reflection a few hours later, this is one of those trades where when accepting I felt like a dice throwing riverboat gambler. Now I feel like that hungry indian boy on that boat in Life Of Pi. :facepalm: Just how it goes on the Block sometimes.
Come oooooon Pence!
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Now going into the bottom of the 7th Jordan Zimmermanns shutting down the Atlanta Braves :facepalm: Has 7 Ks so far, and no I did not see that coming. I thought the Braves might shred him tonight.
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Powdered Water
05-01-13, 11:01 PM
You damn fool. ;)
You damn fool. ;)
I had to pos rep that. The good news is Hunter Pence went 2 for 3 tonight with 2 runs, a homer, and a stolen base. :up:
Bad news is Rivera looks like a machine, the Rays find ways to lose so Rodneys on the pine, and after Jordan Zimmermanns performance tonight vs the Braves I say he might be having a career year.
Plainly put, Im mad at myself :mad: Not just accepting this trade, but my decision making this season mostly has been plain crap. I wouldnt have drafted so heavy on pitching, and mostly drops of players to waivers (Vernon Wells and others)\ were facepalm bad. Theres nothing wrong with Hunter Pence but daaayyuuum he will have to bring it big time for this trade to not stain the resume. Sorry to turn into Mr Whiny Bitch but ...yeah.
Then the frickin Rays lost too and man this one hurt. We were up 5-0 to the Royals, and somehow found a way to lose 8-9. AUGH! Two in a row where we were ahead of them and their batting just delivered huge. Bad day for me & baseball, and just not going into May with great confidence.
Adamantium18
05-03-13, 10:14 AM
Sorry Tongo thought the deal was a good deal, we are only a month in. Also I want to put Halliday and Morrow on the block. I am looking to ship them out maybe in a package. I have given up early on these veterans. Ship me some offers baby!
Sorry Tongo thought the deal was a good deal, we are only a month in. Also I want to put Halliday and Morrow on the block. I am looking to ship them out maybe in a package. I have given up early on these veterans. Ship me some offers baby!
Seriously its all good Adam :up: No interest in Morrow or Halliday for myself.
Im actually glad to have Pence cause he has a solid upside, but Ill bench him though tonight vs Clayton Kershaw. Ill play Michael Cuddyer vs Matt Moore but Id have to have no options to put a player up against Kershaw.
Quick note: my injuries on offense mean I could really use some extra roster spots. Right now those spots are being taken up by a lot of mid-level SPs; Fernandez, Milone, C.J. Wilson, Cashner (and Parker, who's pitching terribly but is probably a lot better than this). So if anyone needs pitching depth, or even just wants to counteract a slow start with a high-risk/high-reward strategy, I'd be interested in packaging, say, two of them for a decent (not great) hitter.
That all have strengths; Cashner's probably going to be good for WHIP and ERA, Milone's already throwing very well, Wilson should be good for wins, Fernandez for Ks, etc. So there's a way to target the ones that suit a given roster.
I sent you an underwhelming steal of an offer Yoda. More of like a band-aid offer since you cant even limp along right now.
Well, we have an accord; Milone for Cabrera and Ogando. Amusingly, both TONGO and I kinda felt like we were doing the other a small favor, because I really dig Milone. But at this point I really need an active bat, anyway, so if it's even close to a lateral move at SP, it might make sense.
Really though, I just need a couple of the hitters back. At that point at least I'm fielding (roughly) a full lineup. I really got caught at the worst possible time in terms of roster spots.
I would like to trade Mike Rogers for a manager that is perhaps a bit less of a jack-ass, and has even a piece of a clue on how to manage a FBB team. ;)
DexterRiley
05-06-13, 08:44 PM
Who is Mike Rogers?
mikeython1
05-06-13, 09:46 PM
Yeah who is Mike Rogers?
DexterRiley
05-06-13, 11:22 PM
I know a few rogers, maybe hes related :
Kenny
http://www.biography.com/imported/images/Biography/Images/Profiles/R/Kenny-Rogers-9462275-1-402.jpg
Buck
http://www.geocities.ws/buckrogers_nz/images/captain_buck_rogers_wallpaper1024.jpg
Wayne
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/72/Wayne_Rogers_Trapper_John_MASH_1972.JPG/220px-Wayne_Rogers_Trapper_John_MASH_1972.JPG
Jolly
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/ff/Flag_of_Edward_England.svg/250px-Flag_of_Edward_England.svg.png
Mimi
http://hollywoodnose.com/images/postimages/Mimi%20Rogers%20Hot.jpg
Powdered Water
05-07-13, 12:10 AM
Are those really Mimi's mimi's? If ya follow?
Offer sent: CarGon and Loshe for CC and Jose. The fact that Lohse is my best starter right now shows how pitiful my pitching is. Guess I have to ship my first rounder to have a chance in pitching.
Dex, I have CarGon tied up in an offer at the moment - let me see what Raul says, then I will get back to you on your offer.
rauldc14
05-07-13, 11:49 AM
I countered with CarGon, Guthrie, and Kendrick for Bautista and C.C. Those 2 are no sure things, sure they've been good, but will it last? Let me know what you think.
Hate to interject but Mikes wanting to strengthen his pitching, and Dustins counter would make it even weaker. In Dustins shoes, I would accept Seds offer. Joey Bats is not as consistent as Cargo, and CC aint what he used to be.
Why would it hurt his pitching? He's giving up Guthrie and getting Sabathia. Guthrie's been pretty good lately, but not to the point where I'd even consider taking him over C.C.
With Rauls counter he'd be giving up Guthrie AND Kendrick. Kyle Kendrick may not command any respect in a trading sense, for now, but he's getting it done this year and has a good track record.
I made my own bid for Cargo too. Im offering Kuroda & Ellsbury. Curious how this shakes out.
I thought it was Howie Kendrick? Mike has two Kendricks.
Regardless, I'd still much rather have Sabathia than both those guys. Kendrick's career ERA is 4.21. Maybe he's put something together, but that's a big assumption to make based on half a dozen starts.
But then, this is how it goes: everyone places their bets as to which strong starts are mirages and which are a sign of things to come. The majority of them are mirages, though.
rauldc14
05-07-13, 12:59 PM
Why would it hurt his pitching? He's giving up Guthrie and getting Sabathia. Guthrie's been pretty good lately, but not to the point where I'd even consider taking him over C.C.
Thank you Yoda for your sense of reality. Yes, he'd be giving up Guthrie and Kendrick, but they are both uncertainties, whereas C.C. will be solid barring an injury or a Roy Halladay-like happening.
I think the offer is as fair as it gets, but it depends on the risk/reward you're willing to give/take.
Well if name value was the only indicator then youd accept his offer including Lohse, and not instead counter for the only 2 pitchers that are producing for him.
Though upon further investigation Sabathias numbers are pretty solid. He has maintained an ERA in the mid 3's, gets good strikeouts, and has the Yankees backing him up. Losing Lohse though would hurt Seds less than giving up Kendrick & Guthrie. Its up to Mike, but Cargo is top tier, steady, and worth more than any other player mentioned in the trade.
Damn, tough call. I always have such trouble figuring out if I want to trade or not.
GRRRR!!!
rauldc14
05-07-13, 05:45 PM
Joey Bats is awaiting confirmation one way or another.......:)
I cant offer more. As it is Im hoping Jacoby Ellsbury & Hiroki Kuroda isnt too much to give up. :eek: Honestly never thought Id make an offer with Ellsbury involved.
DexterRiley
05-07-13, 08:20 PM
Damn, tough call. I always have such trouble figuring out if I want to trade or not.
GRRRR!!!
If Starting Pitching is what you value most, my offer provides most bang for the buck.
I am having trouble arguing with that, Dex. Hamels and Gallardo for CarGon seems to be the best deal on the table for me. I like Raul's deal, but I have to ship the only two pitchers doing well for me, so it seems like I am shooting myself in the foot, even though I end up with Bautista. CC is ranked pretty high at 21st in pitching, but Hamels is FOURTH, and Gallardo is right there with CC...
However, I lose much less on offense with Raul's deal. Both offers are actually really good, and very hard to decide on. Sorry for the delay fellas, I will definitely decide within the next few hours.
DexterRiley
05-08-13, 10:05 AM
Well as much as it pains me to say as a Jays fan, the preseason chat i had with yodes regarding Bautista is coming to pass. It started happening after the all-star break in 2011 i believe.
Joey Bats is slowly but surely morphing into Adam Dunn. He's not all the way there yet obv, but his days as a .320 hitter with extra bases up the yin yan plus 40 bombs in the bank, are over before they hardly even began. He's got the Joe Carter disease. lotsa 0-4 and 1-4 days.
and yeah it sucks.
hard.
This is where I dramatically swoop in at the last minute and steal CarGo out from under all of you.
Wow. I thought my deal was best cause you get Kuroda, and Ellsbury so the loss of Cargo wouldnt be felt as much.
Right - so I need to either get top pitching talent for my first rounder, or take the hit with Bautista and a decent 2nd tier guy like CC. Both offers have their merits.
Also - I am also VERY open to a direct, one-for-one, My best guy for your best guy stud trade. I am talking a Darvish or a Harvey. Yes, CarGon is one of the best and top ranked players in FBB, so I think trading a CURRENT top 3 ranked SP is absolutely a fair deal, especially since no pitchers go in round one of the draft, so their value is usually a bit less.
May rankings just went up, and CarGon is third overall.
Tongo, your deal is VERY good, but Kuroda isn't quite good enough and Jacoby's power hasn't emerged. He's just a 3-stat OF.
By the bye - we are ALL pulling for poor JJ Happ down here in RedSox Nation. Sending good vibes his way. Get better soon, JJ!
Ok then. I upped my ante. Kuroda, Ellsbury, and Papelbon for Cargo.
Eh, why not? Just made an offer. Since everyone else is doing it.
DexterRiley
05-08-13, 10:39 AM
I cant offer more. As it is Im hoping Jacoby Ellsbury & Hiroki Kuroda isnt too much to give up. :eek: Honestly never thought Id make an offer with Ellsbury involved.
Ok then. I upped my ante. Kuroda, Ellsbury, and Papelbon for Cargo.
:laugh:
Uh, Tongo's offer is now REALLY good, and I think I am going to take it! Any counters? I am hitting the accept button in 5 minutes...
DexterRiley
05-08-13, 10:46 AM
Kuroda hasnt gotten any better, Ellsbury still has no power in last few minutes.
Tongs with teh auction feeeva
ACCEPTED
Congrats on CarGon, Tongo.
Sayonara to the Clockwork Angles HR (and RBI for that matter) stat, which will now sink into oblivion!
Kuroda hasnt gotten any better, Ellsbury still has no power in last few minutes.
Tongs with teh auction feeeva
Better than Ian "what's the strike zone, anyway" Kennedy? Absolutely. Better than Masterson? You betcha. I need the help in saves with both Bailey and Joel on the DL until who knows when. Also, what's with superstar Kimbrel? Another 25+ ERA performance? Bah. I will never draft a closer as high as I did this year, that's for sure. Live and learn, I guess.
Pleasure doing business with ya. :)
Now I got to keep an eye out for another closer and stream a pitcher each week till I find a keeper.
Yeah, I STILL need another SP, but this helps us both, I think.
DexterRiley
05-08-13, 11:02 AM
in hindsight im probably fortunate seds accepted quick. 1 2 was caught up in the auction feeva, and had added grilli in a proposal that didnt take.
:D
rauldc14
05-08-13, 11:02 AM
With CarGon out of the picture, I'll now look to swing a trade with Dex or Yoda.
DexterRiley
05-08-13, 11:03 AM
Come down to realistic expectation for what Bautista is, and what he isn't and a deal can be quick.
rauldc14
05-08-13, 11:25 AM
Just so the forum can get a feel for Dex's realistic trading comparisons, I was offered:
Jim Henderson, Cole Hamels, and Yovani Gallardo for Matt Kemp and Jose Bautista.
You must be out of your mind.
I sent an interesting trade PW's way, potentially sending him Bautista, Moustakas, Ryan Howard, Carlos Villaneuva, and the mending Jared Weaver for Machado, Adam Jones, and Shelby Miller.
rauldc14
05-08-13, 11:29 AM
I am having trouble arguing with that, Dex. Hamels and Gallardo for CarGon seems to be the best deal on the table for me. I like Raul's deal, but I have to ship the only two pitchers doing well for me, so it seems like I am shooting myself in the foot, even though I end up with Bautista. CC is ranked pretty high at 21st in pitching, but Hamels is FOURTH, and Gallardo is right there with CC...
However, I lose much less on offense with Raul's deal. Both offers are actually really good, and very hard to decide on. Sorry for the delay fellas, I will definitely decide within the next few hours.
You were looking at the pre-ranks. Hamels is #420 total of all fantasy players as of now. Gallardo is at #700+
I was looking at the May ranks on Rotoworld, which were posted yesterday. These are projections for May performance (which are clearly just projections, because this is baseball). But yeah, these guys numbers just aren't there this season, so I didn't take the offer.
rauldc14
05-08-13, 11:33 AM
TBH, you took the best offer. He gave up a lot for one player, in the end you lose out on power, but gain everywhere else.
DexterRiley
05-08-13, 11:41 AM
You were looking at the pre-ranks. Hamels is #420 total of all fantasy players as of now. Gallardo is at #700+
ya gots to do it by position.
When u place market value on Bautista, which metric are you using?
I paid thru the nose to upgrade one of my outfield slots. I do feel though I can recover losing a starter and a closer. The seasons still young, and many pitchers get hurt, demoted, recalled, or eventually just get their act together. Oh yeah, one more thing....
Carlos Gonzalez is now on The Naturals!!!! :)
http://carpenean.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Braves_at_Rockies_050512_0004.jpg
DexterRiley
05-08-13, 11:45 AM
With CarGon out of the picture, I'll now look to swing a trade with Dex or Yoda.
by look to swing, do u mean an offer is forthcoming? Coz thats how these things generally work.
:D
rauldc14
05-08-13, 11:49 AM
ya gots to do it by position.
When u place market value on Bautista, which metric are you using?
Generally, the total rank, which actually devalues his worth, since he's projected to be much higher by season's end. But then again, there's also some goofy people who have a much higher rank.
By swing, he means he's a swinger. He's going to send over an offer, and with it some baby oil and a swatch of shag carpeting.
DexterRiley
05-08-13, 11:56 AM
shaggerific.
I have a feeling we wont be seeing ". Trade: Pending trade between Defending Champeens and Peanuts&Crackerjacks - [details]" anytime soon. :nope:
DexterRiley
05-09-13, 10:42 AM
Thoroughly confused by the deal just struck by Tongs and Yoda.
So Chris gets Juan Pierre, who has been added and dropped half a dozen times so far with obv the jewel of the deal Benny Z, and Tongs gets Everth Cabrera (who he literally traded to chris 2 days ago) and Reed a Closer with an era in the high 2's.
Was this a pre-aranged deal as an ammedum to the Millione accord?
He needed the help, I needed a closer, and I might end up getting Ben back when Yodas rosters off the mend (I hope).
If you were in such sore shape Id break off a piece for you too Dex. ;)
Nah; Pierre's a throw-in. He just wanted Saves after dealing Papelbon and Reed's been killing it, so it was a good fit. I'll have to go back to scrounging for saves, but I'm comfortable with that.
I did get two quick SBs while I had Cabrera, though, so that's kinda cool. But mainly, I just really needed someone with a lot of positional flexibility. Like, badly. It's pathetic, but I'm fielding like two-thirds of a lineup most days.
Tulo's crushing when he plays but they're being very careful with him, giving him days off if he's even sore. And Gonzalez is battling some neck thing which seems pretty minor, but who knows. I'm learning to assume the worst.
DexterRiley
05-09-13, 11:01 AM
But mainly, I just really needed someone with a lot of positional flexibility. Like, badly. It's pathetic, but I'm fielding like two-thirds of a lineup most days.
Thats weird because as of today You've accumulated 304 GP while i have yet to crack 300.
Yeah, but you're last in GP, and I'm second-to-last.
I assume we're close because I was fielding a full lineup for the first few weeks. It's just the last 2 that it's completely fallen apart.
DexterRiley
05-09-13, 11:41 AM
oh well in that case, Tongs break off a piece for me.
:D
oh well in that case, Tongs break off a piece for me.
:D
Sorry, but youre roster has DL woes like a normal person. If FBB were real life the losses on Yodas team would equate to a team bus or plane crash.
http://www.adweek.com/files/imagecache/node-detail/news_article/aflac-1.jpg
I should probably buy Giancarlo Stanton life insurance at this point.
Sup with our trade? Isn't it past the 1 day marker? Thought we accepted at about 9:30 yesterday?
Sup with our trade? Isn't it past the 1 day marker? Thought we accepted at about 9:30 yesterday?
Its not 24 hours, I wish, but a full day after the trade passes counts only as one day. Yes I agree its b.s., lame, and weak too.
Ah, so it's just a 1 day limit on rejection, but the trade takes longer? It's Thursday, so I have a ton of guys off anyway. No big, I guess.
It's the first full day after the trade is accepted. So if it's accepted on Thursday, the review period is Friday, and it's in effect for Saturday. Used to be two full days after the trade is accepted.
rauldc14
05-09-13, 11:23 PM
I know Reed's been a bit better than Betancourt or Balfour, but why couldn't I get Zobrist for one of those?
I know Reed's been a bit better than Betancourt or Balfour, but why couldn't I get Zobrist for one of those?
I explained this earlier. Check the prior page.
rauldc14
05-10-13, 12:02 AM
safe to say Yoda will not just give Zobrist away. There's no way you would get him back for what you got.
Hm. There were no promises made for a later trade, though I might try. Kelly Johnsons rocking it right now for Tampa, and Everths great for stolen bases, which Ill need since Jacobys going, and Carlos Gonzalez doesnt steal as much. I will endure :) One day too Derek Jeter may bring some of that geriatric magic to my SS position.
The guy couldnt even field a full roster! Im actually homer-proud Yoda didnt drop Neil Walker cause its not all about the math in FBB. The Ducks have even surpassed your DL plague you endured, often. What can you do?! The coach doesnt cause it, there is no control of it!
Ive sent you many an offer Raul, and you mostly ignored them all. Now you reject them which is nice. If you feel out of some "trading loop" thats on you bro'
Reed has 11 saves and almost a 12 K/9 rate, people. He's the 6th ranked closer on ESPN's Player Rater and ranked 5th going forward by Cockroft.
Coming into the year he was a mid-level closer, and I drafted him expecting that, but we're six weeks into the season and he's put up far better numbers than expected.
Just did my last trade for awhile. Gave Michael Cuddyer to Dionnes Kinky K's for Mike Minor. I have a great feeling Minors gonna have a awesome year, and do feel Cuddyer wont be able to maintain his current pace.
http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Mike+Minor+Atlanta+Braves+v+New+York+Yankees+KCjHLjLON23x.jpg
Whoa! Just reported that Michael Cuddyer has been held out of fridays game with neck problems :eek: He says its an off and on thing he deals with so hopefully there wont be a DL stint.
More importantly to Dionne, I had no idea beforehand.
No Dexter. Im not gonna give up Carlos Gonzalez for Cole Hamels and Michael Young.
rauldc14
05-13-13, 12:29 PM
No Dexter. Im not gonna give up Jose Bautista for Cole Hamels.
Yes, Dexter, I will give up Brett Gardner for Cole Hamels.
CelluloidChild
05-13-13, 12:36 PM
Is this thread like what we (at least I and some friends) used to do with baseball cards as kids?
rauldc14
05-13-13, 12:37 PM
Yes, Dexter, I will give up Ryan Howard for Cole Hamels.
Is this thread like what we (at least I and some friends) used to do with baseball cards as kids?
Well, if you're struggling as bad as Dusty and I are, yeah, it kind of does resemble sticking them in a spoke and destroying the ever-loving crap out of them.
Is this thread like what we (at least I and some friends) used to do with baseball cards as kids?
Fantasy Baseball. Fantasy sports are a MASSIVE industry, with hundreds of thousands of players. It's been played for decades, with managers using newspapers and hand-written records before the advent of fantasy sports on the web, or the web in general, for that matter.
I believe fantasy sports started with Golf in the 1950s...I think...A very simple affair that used stroke count for various players and very little else.
CelluloidChild
05-13-13, 01:07 PM
Ok, I'll have to look it up.
rauldc14
05-13-13, 02:52 PM
Picked up Carlos Gonzalez and Addison Reed, but had to give up a bit with Matt Kemp and Carlos Beltran. Just thought Cargo is a stud and I needed another closer.
Is Kemp doing anything yet?
A little. Not much power though.
My thoughts are that it'd be a very fair deal if Kemp were performing as expected, and that he has to start performing as expected just for TONGO to merely break even on it. It'd be decent value on both sides if Kemp were already hitting as expected, so I don't think there's much upside in this deal for him.
But I guess we'll find out.
I look at it a little differently. Kemp was killing it in 2011 (40 homers/40 Stolen bags/.324 avg), and was doing likewise in 2012 till he had that season ending injury. So far hes started out slow, now hes hitting, and next hopefully will be the power. Basically I believe in Kemp, and comparing Cargo to Kemp if both were playing at their best Id give the edge to Kemp. Worst case scenario is he never hits with great power again, and itll be like I never lost Ellsbury.
As for Addison Reed, great closer, but Ive got 2 great closers already. I will pick up one eventually off waivers to have 3 again. Whoever it is wont be as good as Addison, but I dont need him to be since I got Rodney & Chapman. I would have less chance finding a Carlos Beltran on waivers.
So......
http://bossip.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/matt-kemp31.jpg
..........Matt Kemp is now on The Naturals! :)
I'm fine with someone thinking Kemp's coming all the way back. But when there's any uncertainty about that, deals of this type are usually predicated on the idea that you "lose" the deal if he doesn't, and win it if he does. In this case, even if he does, you're probably looking at roughly a wash. That's what I'm getting at when I talk about upside. High-risk high-reward deals make tons of sense, but this deal is almost all down side; if everything goes really well, it'll still be a fairly even trade.
I'm fine with someone thinking Kemp's coming all the way back. But when there's any uncertainty about that, deals of this type are usually predicated on the idea that you "lose" the deal if he doesn't, and win it if he does. In this case, even if he does, you're probably looking at roughly a wash. That's what I'm getting at when I talk about upside. High-risk high-reward deals make tons of sense, but this deal is almost all down side; if everything goes really well, it'll still be a fairly even trade.
Right now Kemp vs Cargo you are correct, and even with all 4 players considered youre right, but Reeds value to me isnt as much as a Carlos Beltran. I do believe Kemps power will return and will surpass Cargos. Gonzalez has never hit 40 homers in a season.
rauldc14
05-13-13, 06:04 PM
Coming from the player on the other side of the deal, I think people would be too inclined to overlook Carlos Beltran as well. Guys playing great, probably better than Kemp is right now. I see it as an even trade right now, but Tongs has the potential for a great deal. It should work out on both ends.
rauldc14
05-13-13, 06:06 PM
BTW, a huge factor in it for me was the fact that I looked and I am third to last in saves. It's one of those categories where simply by adding someone I can vault up the ranks in that category.
As for Beltran, I'll currently replace him with a Duda/Ruggiano/ and Ross platoon, which wouldn't be so bad if I actually picked the right performer for the day, which has yet to happen when that comes into play.
http://bronxbaseballdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/nate-mclouth-540x359.jpg
Nate McLouth is on the block. Looking for an equally strong starting pitcher.
mikeython1
05-14-13, 07:19 AM
I think The Naturals are getting the better end of the trade with Peanuts&Crackerjacks. Closers are not as valuable as u think. I picked up two from the waiver wire pretty easily. One day your the man, next day your pitching in the minors.
This!! (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/fantasy-roto-arcade/six-trade-partners-meet-hell-180647187.html)
;)
Don't mind people valuing closers less, but he specifically traded for Reed to recover the Saves he gave up in the Papelbon deal, so that's a mighty quick timeframe to be completely changing your notion of closer value.
rauldc14
05-14-13, 12:04 PM
This year is nothing like last year in terms of randomly picking up good closers. For the most part people have grips on their closing roles, last year they lost them like flies. There's been some injuries, but not many demotions due to performance. The ones that were demoted (Marmol, Axford, etc.) were apparent anyways.
rauldc14
05-14-13, 12:07 PM
This!! (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/fantasy-roto-arcade/six-trade-partners-meet-hell-180647187.html)
;)
The propose at 1:05 and cancel at 1:13 is so Tongs.
Hey, even Dex is in there.
Some people are more than one! Heh.
I think the only one I resemble at all is the explanation thingie. But I almost always keep it to a sentence or two, and I imagine it's usually helpful to put the rationale upfront.
I am probably the last guy, who never comes in higher than 6th place due to being worried I am getting burned in trades.
rauldc14
05-14-13, 12:15 PM
Sometimes, due to my crazy work schedule or my computer being terrible, I am the non-responder. I swear I don't try to be.
The propose at 1:05 and cancel at 1:13 is so Tongs.
Hey, even Dex is in there.
"The Guy with the "Now You See It, Now You Don't" Offer"
Yeah I read this Yahoo article last night, saw this description, and had to hang my head in shame. :blush: ...Im not flaky...mumble grumble...
I am just busy. Sometimes I set my line-up for a few days and don't log in for days at a time. *shrugs*
Tongs, we bust your balls, but the league wouldn't be the same without ya, bud.
Don't mind people valuing closers less, but he specifically traded for Reed to recover the Saves he gave up in the Papelbon deal, so that's a mighty quick timeframe to be completely changing your notion of closer value.
Yoda I traded Papelbon away because Im so flush on saves. I havent checked lately but am sure I still am.
I wanted to hook you up in a trade due to the rampant maimings to your crew. You wanted Zobrist, and so I asked for a meatier talent in Reed. Plainly put if you werent in such need Id never woulda traded you Zo for Cabrera and Reed. Im glad to have done it, and if Kelly Johnson can keep up his pace then I shouldnt suffer from it.
In the meantime I get the opportunity to land Kemp. If Kemp had started showing his power already I know Dustin wouldnt part with him and Beltran for Cargo & Reed. Kemps upside is that strong.
I am confident there will be a closer available on waivers sometime this season, and if I aint the early bird that catches the worm then I dont know who is. Just wanted to explain so I dont seem flaky. stupid yahoo article....mumble grumble....
I am just busy. Sometimes I set my line-up for a few days and don't log in for days at a time. *shrugs*
Tongs, we bust your balls, but the league wouldn't be the same without ya, bud.
Thank. You. Mike. Its a great pleasure to play with y'all too.
I do try and post in more than just the fantasy leagues. In fact I commented in the Cat Piss thread. :yup:
rauldc14
05-14-13, 12:31 PM
so, in essence, yoda got Zobrist for a half of a Beltran when it was all said and done.
I found a trade to my liking with Suicide Squeeze: Edward Mujica for Aramis Ramirez. He deals from strength on offense, and while it hurts to lose a closer, I think I have enough others to weather the blow. Hopefully Fujikawa can take the job back from Gregg in Chicago.
so, in essence, yoda got Zobrist for a half of a Beltran when it was all said and done.
The top half hits better, but the bottom half is where all the steals come from.
Choose wisely. :suspicious:
Just traded A-Gon and C.J. Wilson for Anthony Rizzo and Smardijijakjkja.
Need the shakeup. Gonzalez's batting average has been awesome, but his power's been lagging and Rizzo actually runs a little, too. More upside there, if he keeps hitting the way he has. So there ya' go.
Well Carlos Gonzalez just went off. Went 5 for 5 ,3 runs, 3 rbis, and two homers. whooph! Wow I sure hope Matt Kemp finds his power this season :laugh:
rauldc14
05-15-13, 12:26 AM
would have been nice to have him a day early. My pitching got obliterated and i'm in the 40s now, pretty much killing any miniscule chance i had to even get to the top half of the league this year.
AUGH!!!!
Yoda you got Alex Cobb from Dionne?! Brett Gardner?! AUGH!
Desmond Jennings & Jeremy Hellickson are now on The Naturals! :)
I gave up Carlos Beltran & Tommy Milone. I looked at this as a 2 for 1 trade since I feel theres someone on waivers thatll probably equal Milones #'s that I'll grab, If theyre not on my team already (DeLaRosa, Slowey, or Vargas)
http://www.tampabay.com/resources/images/dti/rendered/2011/09/c4s_jennings090811_190218a_8col.jpg
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rauldc14
05-17-13, 11:36 PM
Tongo has gotten to the point where this isn't fantasy baseball anymore. It Tampa Bay homerism. You have like 6-7 Rays.
DexterRiley
05-17-13, 11:47 PM
thats crazy, and not the cool kinda crazy like this:
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but rather crazy stinky like this :
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no wait, like this
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Well I just cancelled an offer to Tim for Matt Moore offering Anibal Sanchez. Though Rauls commentary is annoying, he is right.
I am enjoying James Loney (yknow Dustin the guy with the highest batting average in all of baseball), and Kelly Johnson #'s as long as they last. kelly just went 3 for 4 with a homer and at least 4 rbi's. His #'s (presently) are better than Ben Zobrists.
Grabbing Roberto Hernandez isnt entirely homerism because hes great for K's and is getting better. Wont put him up against Baltiomore tomorrow though.
Accepting Hellickson & Jennings for Beltran & Milone, I feel was just a great value regardless of team.
Anyway though, I cancelled my offer to Tim. The commentary actually stopped me from trading away the hottest pitcher on the Tigers right now HOLLER! :) Thank you rauldc14.
DexterRiley
05-18-13, 12:00 AM
Just did my last trade for awhile. Gave Michael Cuddyer to Dionnes Kinky K's for Mike Minor. I have a great feeling Minors gonna have a awesome year, and do feel Cuddyer wont be able to maintain his current pace.
http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Mike+Minor+Atlanta+Braves+v+New+York+Yankees+KCjHLjLON23x.jpg
I paid thru the nose to upgrade one of my outfield slots. I do feel though I can recover losing a starter and a closer. The seasons still young, and many pitchers get hurt, demoted, recalled, or eventually just get their act together. Oh yeah, one more thing....
Carlos Gonzalez is now on The Naturals!!!! :)
http://carpenean.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Braves_at_Rockies_050512_0004.jpg
Paid thru the nose to get cargo, flipped him for kemp and beltran.
ended up -Ellsbury, Cargon, Beltran, Kuroda, Millione
and + Kemp, Hellboy and Desmond Jennings.
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No Dexter. Im not gonna give up Carlos Gonzalez for Cole Hamels and Michael Young.
Pretty darn reasonable in retrospect eh
ended up -Ellsbury, Cargon, Beltran, Kuroda, Millione
and + Kemp, Hellboy and Desmond Jennings.
Your comparison here is plain wrong as I never gave up Ellsbury AND Cargo at the same time. Also Ive gotten Mike Minor besides the 3 you listed. Yes your offer of Michael young & Cole Hamels was stupider than my trading history this season entire.
Im actually happy with my team and mostly happy with all my trades. They all cant be winners.
Powdered Water
05-18-13, 12:26 AM
Ah, must be May. Tongo and Dex are arguing about trades. This is a very fun league.
DexterRiley
05-18-13, 12:53 AM
Your comparison here is plain wrong as I never gave up Ellsbury AND Cargo at the same time. Also Ive gotten Mike Minor besides the 3 you listed. Yes your offer of Michael young & Cole Hamels was stupider than my trading history this season entire.
Im actually happy with my team and mostly happy with all my trades. They all cant be winners.
ok but howz aboot my gif finden skillz.
:laugh:
See, now I feel like I have to keep Cobb, just because.
ok but howz aboot my gif finden skillz.
:laugh:
Yeah I actually pos repped that.
Its a good trade! I mean Beltran for Jennings & Hellboy is just a good value. I dont think Tommy Milones gonna be better than Mike Leake. Mike Leake is the ultimate measuring stick for starters on the waiver yknow :)
Anyway thats how I looked at it. Though I realized I overtraded to get Milone, Ive got to cut that loss, and I think going forward Hellickson will outperform Milone even though hes been rocked the past 2 games. The Orioles did things to Hellickson tonight, but I watch how he pitches, and wont be surprised if he goes on a tear this season.
Beltrans great but will not maintain his current pace. I feel Jennings will do better, and they both may finish comparatively. Just the way I see it.
See, now I feel like I have to keep Cobb, just because.
I swear to you I made an offer to Tim (Anibal for Moore) and had resolved to give you Minor for Cobb. Now I feel like if I do either I will be wearing the scarlet letter H.
thats not good
DexterRiley
05-18-13, 01:31 AM
I swear to you I made an offer to Tim (Anibal for Moore) and had resolved to give you Minor for Cobb. Now I feel like if I do either I will be wearing the scarlet letter H. thats not good
Just need a chain.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_zjf7pwN4x9c/TA6Y9xzMPMI/AAAAAAAAAr8/XRavI3wHBPY/s1600/H-XandraZamora.jpg
:laugh:
DexterRiley
05-18-13, 01:33 AM
That Beetle and trailer thing is the coolest damnn thing ive seen in a long while. If i inherit a diamond mine, im def gonna get that engineered for a Dodge Challenger.
:laugh:
DexterRiley
05-20-13, 02:50 AM
It's time to cut ties with Moustakas. Just not worth waiting. If he does well later, good for him.
With CarGon out of the picture, I'll now look to swing a trade with Dex or Yoda.
yes well moustakas, joyce and Howard all underperforming + Freddie Freeman for Ryan Braun aint gonna happen. like ever.
rauldc14
05-20-13, 11:47 AM
im glad u got the joke. thats how ive felt with most of your offers
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lw3wt0M9jB1qcapudo1_400.jpg
I will trade both Kyle Lohse and Ian Kennedy for 1 player with decent power... make your offers! ;)
Don't all line up at once, now. I know, I know...
you can ALL have a chance at these two gems...just be patient. ;)
DexterRiley
05-20-13, 07:24 PM
im glad u got the joke. thats how ive felt with most of your offers
The crucial difference being, when i was making pitches for say, Bautista, he was batting .200. Plus i was taking the time to see what categories u were suckin ass in, and attempted to provide suitable solutions adressing said need.
rauldc14
05-20-13, 09:36 PM
you'd probably offer me Brantley for Bautista and say it's fair.
anywhosits, C.C. is on the trade block. Don't even care that my pitching sucks, I've had better luck with streams then keeping people on my team.
DexterRiley
05-20-13, 11:03 PM
i believe i offered hamels + Brantley for Bautista, again when he was hitting .200. and considering u snagged him for cruz and beckett when he was whiffing as often, not to mention your woeful average and pitching categories, yes it was more than fair.
Sent off an offer to Dustin for CC Sabathia, offering Desmond Jennings.
Sent an offer to Dex - Desmond Jennings & James Loney for Cole Hamels. By the numbers Im overpaying big time, but Im hoping Hamels turns it around.
DexterRiley
05-22-13, 11:33 PM
Sent an offer to Dex - Desmond Jennings & James Loney for Cole Hamels. By the numbers Im overpaying big time, but Im hoping Hamels turns it around.
run the numbers again. thats hardly overpaying. This just in, Hamels cant be expected to score runs, which thus far the phillies havent done when he starts. otherwise, his numbers are just fine.
I need a big stick in return for Hamels. Position wise, im currently loaded for bear at 1B, plus have Mark Texiera coming off DL shortly.
Thanks for the offer Tongs, shame u didnt come a calling when u owned Cargon.
:D
run the numbers again. thats hardly overpaying. This just in, Hamels cant be expected to score runs, which thus far the phillies havent done when he starts. otherwise, his numbers are just fine.
I need a big stick in return for Hamels. Position wise, im currently loaded for bear at 1B, plus have Mark Texiera coming off DL shortly.
Thanks for the offer Tongs, shame u didnt come a calling when u owned Cargon.
:D
:laugh: Yeah Dex good luck landing a Cargon with Hamels. (Psst! I doubt anyone will come calling.)
DexterRiley
05-22-13, 11:44 PM
not straight up did i say straight up?
nope, i surely didnt.
DexterRiley
05-22-13, 11:46 PM
i countered though, Hamels, Brewers Closer Henderson and Michael Young for Kelly Johnson and Kemp.
i countered though, Hamels, Brewers Closer Henderson and Michael Young for Kelly Johnson and Kemp.
Sorry no can do. I can find someone on waivers thatll execute playing baseball better than Young. Kemps upside way overtakes Hamels upside, but I may be interested in Henderson.
Dont know if Id want to trade Johnson for him though. It may be a good idea. Gonna think on it some as a good 2B is hard to find, and if he keeps up at his current pace I can flop him to the outfield when Jeter returns. Use Everth Cabrera for 2B then.
DexterRiley
05-23-13, 12:47 AM
Sorry no can do. I can find someone on waivers thatll execute playing baseball better than Young.
yes .300 hitters are a dime a dozen. clearly. its weird then that your average for the season is weak.
its a head scratcher.
yes .300 hitters are a dime a dozen. clearly. its weird then that your average for the season is weak.
its a head scratcher.
Averages are easier to fix than losing the RBIs Ive gotten with Kelly Johnson. Youngs RBI total went down by about half from 2011 to 2012, and now he isnt on the Rangers so hes not even on pace to overtake last years total of 67. You seriously should have kicked him to waivers long ago.
DexterRiley
05-23-13, 01:10 AM
Averages are easier to fix than losing the RBIs Ive gotten with Kelly Johnson. Youngs RBI total went down by about half from 2011 to 2012, and now he isnt on the Rangers so hes not even on pace to overtake last years total of 67. You seriously should have kicked him to waivers long ago.
yep if RBI's is what you are targetting, Michael Young surely isnt your guy. howver as a steady average with multi-position eligibility he comes in handy.
my bad, i saw your average and thought Young would be a fit, A coz he can play 2nd, and again the average thing.
mikeython1
05-23-13, 09:05 AM
I think Peanuts&Crackerjacks is giving up way to much for Pujols. Two pretty good 1st Basemen for one that is barely better then either of them and Weaver(which happens to be one of the best pitchers in baseball) for a kicker. I'm sorry but Marmol and Cook are useless in my opinion. I usually never do this but I voted against the trade. Sorry :( No hard feelings.
I wouldn't call Howard a pretty good 1st basemen.
Two pretty good 1st Basemen for one that is barely better then either of them and Weaver(which happens to be one of the best pitchers in baseball) for a kicker.
Jared Weaver??
He's ranked 169th in pitching right now as far as fantasy is concerned. Completely useless, and he's on the DL. Not even close to being one of the best, and not even in the top 150! He was good LAST year, but so was Verlander, Dickey, and a bunch of other busts...
Rankings here (http://games.espn.go.com/flb/playerrater?slotCategoryId=14&startIndex=150)...
DexterRiley
05-23-13, 10:32 AM
Weaver??
.. right now as far as fantasy is concerned. Completely useless....Not even close to being one of the best, and not even in the top 150! He was good LAST year
..
And this is why its best not to skim thru posts.
:D
Actually Carlos Marmol is worthless as hes not the closer for the Cubs. Ive a feeling Dionne didnt know that.
DexterRiley
05-23-13, 10:51 AM
Or thats why Dionne is dropping him to complete the trade.
I think it's an okay trade. I'd rather have the Freeman/Weaver end of it, but not by a ton.
Or thats why Dionne is dropping him to complete the trade.
Doh! Sorry, misread the trade.
And this is why its best not to skim thru posts.
:D
The numbers are right there on the tracker... What's Weaver done this year to be considered "one of the best pitchers in baseball?" I am having trouble figuring it out, what with him being completely off the radar as a fantasy asset at this point.
Then again, you mention CarGon as a trade for Cole Hamels, who has 1 win all year and an ERA close to 5! Cargon is the number ONE rated OF right now. First place!
Hey dude, I have an ELITE pitcher for you. He has to be Elite, because his name is Ian Kennedy. It's all about the name; it can't possibly be about the stats if Hamels is elite. Kennedy was awesome...until he wasn't anymore, just like Cole Hamels.
Each manager has to deal with a couple of busts every year; it's time to recognize Hamels as one of yours.
But go ahead - defend his 4.6 ERA and 1 win as Elite stud stats, and then try to get a player like Cargon or Miguel Cabrera for him and some cross-eyed 1-bagger on a platoon assignment.
DexterRiley
05-23-13, 11:47 AM
The numbers are right there on the tracker... What's Weaver done this year to be considered "one of the best pitchers in baseball?"
pitcher, what pitcher. what are you going on about? my post went right over your head Seds. read it again.
DexterRiley
05-23-13, 12:01 PM
Hey dude, I have an ELITE pitcher for you. He has to be Elite, because his name is Ian Kennedy. It's all about the name; it can't possibly be about the stats if Hamels is elite. Kennedy was awesome...until he wasn't anymore, just like Cole Hamels.
yes Kennedy and Hamels are like exactly the same. oh wait, according to your team log, 8 games 50 innings pitched 37 Ks 4.83 era and a whip of 1.33
But go ahead - defend his 4.6 ERA and 1 win as Elite stud stats, and then try to get a player like Cargon or Miguel Cabrera for him and some cross-eyed 1-bagger on a platoon assignment.
ok. well the way fantasy baseball works is, when he got blown up the first 2 starts, he was on Tongs squad, and thus that doesnt affect me. you see, those stats dont carry over. Tongs gets to keep em, i dont inherit them.
my Team log for Hamels is thus 8 games played, 52 innings pitched, 50 K's, 3.12 era and a Whip of 1.13
Now, just like i didnt have to eat the bad era from tongs, guess what else happens?
If Hamels is traded, whomever has him on his roster, will get the benefit of the Wins, when the law of averages kicks in.
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