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mikeython1
05-23-13, 05:10 PM
I understand that Weaver has not been that great this year up untill now but that probably had something to do with his injury. My previous post was just my opinion and I do have the right to protest any trade if i want to. I'm guessing it takes a majority vote and carefull review by the commissioner to actually reject a pending trade. Sorry if I upset anyone. ;)
Weaver's injury was actually to his non-throwing arm, so his poor performance before then wasn't related to his current injury. Maybe something else was injured or out of whack, and he has been able to straighten it out while he's been on the DL. But his velocity was way down this season, down to 85 MPH from 88MPH last season, so there is something going on with him. Weaver has always been able to get hitters out with below-average velocity, but there has to be a point where he's just too hittable. Maybe he gets it back when he comes off the DL, but I wouldn't classify him as an elite pitcher anymore.
With that said, unless there is obvious collusion going on, I don't vote to veto trades. It's your right to do so, and I don't care how either of these teams does (as long as they're below me in the standings), but this seems like a somewhat fair trade to me.
Well I got 2 trade offers for some pitching. Both parties are being offered Pence & Loney. Curious which one happens. :)
If at all :indifferent:
mikeython1
05-23-13, 07:32 PM
It just happened!
It just happened!
:) Travis Wood & Kevin Gregg are on The Naturals.
http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Travis+Wood+Chicago+Cubs+v+Miami+Marlins+LnVTUvnkpb7x.jpg
http://espn.go.com/photo/2013/0501/fan_g_kgregg_cr_600.jpg
Bye bye Hunter. You surprised me and did great. Now Ill be keeping Jennings.
mikeython1
05-23-13, 10:15 PM
I can't believe I traded away two home town guys.:( I just don't think they can keep being this good. If they continue to play this way all year, this was a bad trade for me. I do have a rather large pitching staff though. Currently I am estimated 47 innings over the max(1500).
Im banking that the stats are real and will sustain as Travis Wood changed how he throws. If it was anything else I wouldve just grabbed Jason Marquis off waivers, who is having a nice run, but hasnt changed anything so I dont believe will last. After losing Zimmermann and Kuroda my steady points of pitching was on its ear. Now I feel the hole in the dam is filled.
rauldc14
05-23-13, 11:53 PM
Too be honest, I don't think I gave up much to get Pujols IF Weaver isn't a stud pitcher. If he is, it's a killer, as I really do need pitching. But I figured having Pujols/Bautista/Cargo gives me possible options to actually acquire a stud pitcher. And no, Cole Hamels is NOT a "stud" right now
DexterRiley
05-24-13, 12:13 AM
Too be honest, I don't think I gave up much to get Pujols IF Weaver isn't a stud pitcher. If he is, it's a killer, as I really do need pitching. But I figured having Pujols/Bautista/Cargo gives me possible options to actually acquire a stud pitcher. And no, Cole Hamels is NOT a "stud" right now
no Cole hamels isnt a stud.
neither is bautista, though is surely do hope he becomes one.
He was a stud wednesday. Fricking singlehandidly beat our ass.
DexterRiley
05-24-13, 12:48 AM
singlehandedly huh. so who were the guys on base that he brought home with teh single?
I thought Rauld was a marlins fan, id have thought he watched the games.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBo7nXxSZp0
Pfft! Dont brag too loud as Hellickson still can keep y'all in check. Now its gonna be Yankee time down at the Trop. Yankees have lost 9 in a row at the Trop, and I think we will take it out on them and make that number a 12 in a few days.
In fact Roberto Hernandez is pitching tomorrow Dex. You should stream that action. :D
DexterRiley
05-24-13, 09:15 AM
so what you are saying is the yanks are due.
ok Phelps it is :D
Near miss with Kuroda! I thought he was bound for the DL! Still got slammed in his last start, after being pretty damned reliable up to that point. Let's hope he shakes that rocky start off and gets back to form fast.
DexterRiley
05-24-13, 09:48 AM
Each manager has to deal with a couple of busts every year; it's time to recognize Kuroda as one of yours.
:D
With ONE bad start? Your keen insights astound, as usual. One bad start during a game in which he was hit by a line drive...Also, can he technically be a bust for me when I didn't draft him? :nope: ;)
Of course he can.
Yeah, I was too rough on Hamels yesterday, He HAS been batter of late, that's for sure. Still, he has command issues this year. Has he been hanging out with Jimenez? ;)
Just made one of the most loaded offers Ive ever made for Miguel Cabrera. Up to Mikey now.
Well I had to cancel the offer to Mikey for Miguel Cabrera. It was just too loaded and Ive got to give my guys more time and stop being impatient. The offer sat there for at least a few hours, so I don't think it qualifies as flaky ;)
I demand to know what the offer was!
ha! Youre the second person that asked already. I was offering him Kemp, Price, and Jennings.
I cancelled due to the fact if Kemp & Price get it together it would - 1. Screw me, and 2. solidify Mikeys at the top all season. That happened with Dex last year (if I remember correctly) when he got a bunch of a-list talent, went on a surge for 2-3 weeks, and nobody ever caught up.
Yeah, let's not do that, k? ;)
DexterRiley
05-24-13, 06:51 PM
With ONE bad start? Your keen insights astound, as usual. One bad start during a game in which he was hit by a line drive...Also, can he technically be a bust for me when I didn't draft him? :nope: ;)
Of course he can.
Yeah, I was too rough on Hamels yesterday, He HAS been batter of late, that's for sure. Still, he has command issues this year. Has he been hanging out with Jimenez? ;)
hamels hasnt had a bad start whilst on my team. that was/is my entire point. His rough outings in inclemental weather were absorbed by tongs.
So from my Pov, Kuroda and his one bad effort for you has to be considered worse than the 8 quality starts for me.
:D
DexterRiley
05-24-13, 09:25 PM
Pfft! Dont brag too loud as Hellickson still can keep y'all in check. Now its gonna be Yankee time down at the Trop. Yankees have lost 9 in a row at the Trop, and I think we will take it out on them and make that number a 12 in a few days.
In fact Roberto Hernandez is pitching tomorrow Dex. You should stream that action. :D
so what you are saying is the yanks are due.
ok Phelps it is :D
Phelps perfect thru 4.
Phelps perfect thru 4.
No ****. Roberto Hernandez should be optioned to AAA Durham.
DexterRiley
05-24-13, 09:50 PM
Ahh well loney doubled, so much for the no-no.
Still, the win + sweet Era is welcome.
Ahh well loney doubled, so much for the no-no.
Still, the win + sweet Era is welcome.
Speaking of no-hitters.......I think Anibal Sanchez is gonna have one against the Twins tonight. Top of the 9th right now :)
Edit in - Crap. Mauer just hit a single. Ah well.
PW!
Ellsbury and Kyle Kendrick for Shelby Miller. :)
Sent!
So I land Kemp...look at my 14 day tracker...and he's the worst guy I have.... Guess I will bench Ellsbury for now, as his average is around .217 over that period...Either him or Kemp on the pine...
Powdered Water
05-27-13, 10:22 AM
PW!
Ellsbury and Kyle Kendrick for Shelby Miller. :)
Sent!
Sent you a counter.
Trade offer to syj - Travis Wood & Jeremy Hellickson for Lance Berkman & Brandon Macarthy.
Sent you a counter.
Interesting offer...but I need to move a little of my extra offensive talent for some pitching. Kemp's value has clearly gone down a bit, so I am thinking he is now worth a 1 for 1 with someone's 4th round SP pick? ;)
Trade offer to syj - Travis Wood & Jeremy Hellickson for Lance Berkman & Brandon Macarthy.
Sent a counter offer, let me know what you think.
Jeremy Hellickson goes to the Fighting Fontenots for me getting Lance Berkman. I hope Hellboy works out for you Scott. Hes one of my favorite pitchers, and his potentials outstanding.
Jeremy Hellickson goes to the Fighting Fontenots for me getting Lance Berkman. I hope Hellboy works out for you Scott. Hes one of my favorite pitchers, and his potentials outstanding.
Yeah, I know you were thinking about dropping him, but my pitching is so thin I can't afford to lose out on him on the waiver wire. Berkman is a nice player to have, but I have better options for the utility spots. Good doing business :highfive:
rauldc14
05-29-13, 11:15 PM
Got Shelby Miller for Grant Balfour, a bit of a risk. But at this point I needed to take a chance on a starting pitcher. Though I may again be in the hunt for another closer.
rauldc14
05-29-13, 11:49 PM
Looking to fill some offensive voids as well. I am willing to part with Pujols for a stud infielder.
mikeython1
05-30-13, 08:57 AM
Got Shelby Miller for Grant Balfour, a bit of a risk. But at this point I needed to take a chance on a starting pitcher. Though I may again be in the hunt for another closer.
I would have have given up a closer and a lesser pitcher or offensive player for Shelby. I think u benefit the most from this trade. :yup:
Powdered Water
06-01-13, 10:04 AM
I would have have given up a closer and a lesser pitcher or offensive player for Shelby. I think u benefit the most from this trade. :yup:
Maybe. But I don't mind paying a little more when I fell I really need a player.
Offering Tims Squeeze Kevin Gregg & Lance Berkman for Jake Peavy. Hope he likes it.
He did! :)
Jake Peavys on The Bad News Bears!
http://isportsweb.com/wp-content/uploads//2013/04/Jake-Peavy-White-Sox-pitcher.jpg
With Price on the mend, and Hellickson in a slump so bad I had to have him gone, I really needed a starter I could count on. Im pitching Aaron Harang today ffs! I can replace Berkman with someone streaking, and Gregg rarely gets a save chance anyway.
DexterRiley
06-01-13, 01:22 PM
Hey Tongs, do u ever wake up in the middle of the night, cursing yourself for letten Cargon go?
I'm looking at your roster page, and i cant remotely remember anybody u drafted besides Longo.
rauldc14
06-01-13, 01:39 PM
I've had a Tongsy roster too. Not many players left that I drafted, and even some that are right now are questionable to be rostered.
Hey Tongs, do u ever wake up in the middle of the night, cursing yourself for letten Cargon go?
I'm looking at your roster page, and i cant remotely remember anybody u drafted besides Longo.
Nah. I look at it like there are trades where you absolutely come out on top, and then theres the Cargon trade. It will go down as my worst trade, possibly ever for how much I spent to get him. When Grandy comes back Ill feel alot better.
Not really stressing the lack of drafted players on my team cause I drafted like crap. Went heavy on pitching, wasted rounds 5, 7, & 8 on closers :facepalm:, and Price (rd 2), Hamels (rd 3), and Dickey (rd 4) werent and still arent anywhere near their normal form. Hamels is better now but the Phillies havent givgen any support like in previous years. Longoria, Jeter, Everth Cabrera, David Price, and Aroldis Chapman are the draftees left.
Frightened Inmate No. 2
06-01-13, 03:56 PM
Who would've thought that Patrick Corbin would be 8-0 with a 1.71 ERA at this point? I initially just picked him up to replace a mediocre relief pitcher, and I figured it would only be a minor improvement. Now he has the best stats in the league.
DexterRiley
06-01-13, 05:13 PM
yeah i had him. dropped him to clear space when hanram came off DL.
Corbin is this seasons' Lance Lynn
rauldc14
06-01-13, 05:19 PM
corbin is last season's wade miley.
rauldc14
06-03-13, 11:29 PM
calling all closers and infielders! willing to wheel and deal yet again.
calling all closers and infielders! willing to wheel and deal yet again.
Okay smooth negotiator....who would you give me for Kelly Johnson?
rauldc14
06-03-13, 11:50 PM
hmmmm it's hard. There's no 1 for 1 match. Joyce would be included in the deal, but it couldn't be straight up. Real tough call. I'd like to throw Chapman into the deal and give something back, but I don't see any fair way of doing it. So I don't want to offer something that isn't fair in my eyes at least.
Raul you willing to move Domonic Brown?
rauldc14
06-04-13, 11:43 PM
Yikes Yoda, that's a tough call for me to make.
Honestly I'll hold on to Car Go, but it's a trade offer that is very fair and makes sense for me, yet I'm a bit hesitant.
Tongs at this point anyone is on the block but I can't just give him away. He's a top 50 guy to be sure, with potential for more.
I dont know who youre willing to part with. Youre asking for someone that earns points at a steady clip.
I sent you another offer.
Adamantium18
06-05-13, 04:40 PM
Sorry for my abscence on this forum. Anyone wanna do some trading for a stud SP. My offense is killing it except for avg. looking to even it out with the pitching. Send some offers my way! Usually better to get me vial email. i wish i could post my email address on here but I dont have enough posts yet. :nope: just dumb. Chris fix this.
You could be a spammer! :D
His email is
[email protected].
Sent an offer to Yoda, Aroldis Chapman for Alex Cobb.
-fingers crossed-
Yeah, I really hate dealing for closers...but Chapman's worth it. Deal.
I'm kinda stunned I dealt Cobb. I like him way more than most people and was thrilled to get him, so I just assumed I'd ride with him all year. He's on Ray you'd be right to have a crush on.
I think Cobbs completely awesome. He had a sweet run with us in 2011, and was lights-out awesome. Then he got injured and was out for the year.
2012 he starts in the minors, and after Niemann breaks his leg on a liner they call Cobb up, and he SUCKED! He sucked big time! I knew he had it in him, as did Madden, and though he took many an asswhoopin last year he turned it around. Now in 2013 he making his mark. :)
Alex Cobb is on The Bad News Bears!
http://www.billy-ball.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Alex-Cobb2.jpg
DexterRiley
06-05-13, 09:27 PM
No Rauld, im not parting with Hanram + Reyes for Pujols and a starter i recently streamed.
rauldc14
06-05-13, 09:34 PM
To each his own.
By the way Tongs, that was a real questionable move. You are already 100+ innings over your pitching limit and you're buying more SP? Makes no sense.
DexterRiley
06-05-13, 09:42 PM
Well i dont need a 1st basesman with health issues up the wazoo. Certainly not for a pair of Top 5 SS.
I mean, why on earth would i do that? Why would anyone do that?
rauldc14
06-05-13, 09:46 PM
Yup, and HanRam and Reyes have just been healthy as can be.
It's not the most godawful offer in the world, contrary to your thought.
By the way, HanRam is no longer a top 5 SS.
DexterRiley
06-05-13, 10:00 PM
Yup, and HanRam and Reyes have just been healthy as can be.
It's not the most godawful offer in the world, contrary to your thought.
By the way, HanRam is no longer a top 5 SS.
had u made the offer the moment they went on the DL that would be one thing., to offer when return is either happening or imminent is hardly the same circumstance.
Yeah its a godawful offer.
And Hanram is most certainly a top 5 SS fantasy option.
Top 5 SS to have are:
Troy Tulowski
Jean Segura
Elvis Andrus
Jhonny Peralta
Hanram
To each his own.
By the way Tongs, that was a real questionable move. You are already 100+ innings over your pitching limit and you're buying more SP? Makes no sense.
Oh I was gonna ask you your opinion of my trade. Thank you for sharing. :laugh:
rauldc14
06-05-13, 10:10 PM
lol @ Peralta and Hanram.
And this is coming from a guy who apparently doesn't care "what" they did in the past, just care about the present (Kemp talks earlier this year)
DexterRiley
06-05-13, 10:18 PM
lol @ Peralta and Hanram.
And this is coming from a guy who apparently doesn't care "what" they did in the past, just care about the present (Kemp talks earlier this year)
How did Kemp turn out? was i correct in my assessment or not?
laugh at Peralta if u wish, but u cant have it both ways either Rauld.
I went thru a similar thing with Tongs a few years ago with Edwin Encarcion. Peralta is having that sort of season.
DexterRiley
06-05-13, 10:20 PM
lol @ Peralta and Hanram.
And this is coming from a guy who apparently doesn't care "what" they did in the past, just care about the present (Kemp talks earlier this year)
For Sh!ts and giggles, in your opinion, who are the top 5 SS eligible fantasy players to have atm?
rauldc14
06-05-13, 10:29 PM
Tulo
Segura
Andrus
Desmond
Everth Cabrera (but if he did use PEDs, then Reyes)
Tulo
Segura
Andrus
Desmond
Everth Cabrera (but if he did use PEDs, then Reyes)
:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
You didnt put Jose Reyes in the top 5 automatically?! lol
rauldc14
06-05-13, 10:42 PM
he said fantasy purposes. and obviously health concerns nicks that a bit. Consistently healthy, obviously #2.
he said fantasy purposes. and obviously health concerns nicks that a bit. Consistently healthy, obviously #2.
No Jeter?! No Reyes?! There is no logic that will suffice!
http://www.woophotos.com/wp-content/main/2011_04/funny-pictures-Baseball-Butt-Shot.jpg
I sent an offer to Dex for Cole Hamels - Jason Vargas & Travis Wood.
Dex said no.
Sent an offer to Sedai of Travis Wood & Jason Vargas for Justin Masterson.
No problem.
Sent an offer to Mikey - Travis Wood & Jason Vargas for James Shields. Bout the same value as Hamels for same reasons imo.
....and he said no.
http://www.discoverarlington.com/assets/business/DingDongDang.jpg
Hey hey Yoda! Whattya say?! Travis Wood & Jason Vargas for Madison Bumgarner. Offer sent :)
Also sent same offer to Dustin for Sabathia. First come first serve! :)
http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/247744/247744,1302028763,1/stock-vector-slam-74666548.jpg
Yoda said no.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Nva_FLbXkbQ/TJonEXZ9R0I/AAAAAAAAApQ/WOsYto__1-0/s320/slam+door.jpg
Raul said no. Trying to figure out if theres anyone left in the league that hasnt said no to this offer. Hmmmmmm
rauldc14
06-06-13, 03:06 PM
2 for 1 offer sent. Ervin Santana and Tillman for Mike Minor
2 for 1 offer sent. Ervin Santana and Tillman for Mike Minor
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Nva_FLbXkbQ/TJonEXZ9R0I/AAAAAAAAApQ/WOsYto__1-0/s320/slam+door.jpg
mikeython1
06-06-13, 10:53 PM
[/Quote]Sent an offer to Mikey - Travis Wood & Jason Vargas for James Shields. Bout the same value as Hamels for same reasons imo.[QUOTE/]]
Sorry Big Game James is the man!
Yes sir I agree. :)
Well PW said no too to that awesome Wood/Vargas package I was slinging. Might be for the best as Ill need real depth with Peavy going out 4-6 weeks, and Price hopefully will be back within a couple weeks. Oy I so screwed myself thoroughly with this streaming pitchers attack :laugh: All that got destroyed was my ERA, Whip, and chopped my offensive gains to nothin :sick:
Because of that I'd like to go lean and mean for the rest of the season with pitching. I do need to go on an "innings diet" as my Ip totals too flush with nothin to show for it. Hence why I was trying to trade 2 good pitchers for a great one.
Powdered Water
06-07-13, 12:34 AM
No way I'm tradin pretty much anyone at this point fellas. May be different in a few weeks or a month, who knows.
Just traded Yoda Gerrit Cole for Andrew Cashner. If I had realized there were not one but two other Pirates fans in the league, I would have made them all bid against each other until I got Kershaw or something ;) Should be fun to watch Cole throw his upper 90s gas and crazy mid-80s changeup.
Aye, many thanks to Scott for letting me nab Cole as homer insurance. :laugh: I almost picked him up twice in like the last week, and missed him by about 20 minutes today. If he's actually any good it'd have been brutal having to watch him every fifth day as a Pirates fan. At least now I can cheer for him without feeling conflicted. :up:
I like the trade. Sound homer trades are the best, cause you earn, but earn with glee :)
Im gonna take a shot at Yasiel Puig, what a name, and sent an offer Mikeys way. Dont have much wiggle room now though. Dang Im dinged up bad. :sick:
Edit in - I cancelled that offer cause I know he'd reject. I upped the ante to Kelly Johnson. I can spare a Ray.
Well I sent a couple offers Rauls way.
Kelly Johnson & Travis Wood for Jose Bautista, or Kelly Johnson & David Price for soon to be DL'd Cargo.
Cargo, like Grandy, is an investment trade. Cant let Yoda be the only one with a windfall o' whoopass to come on the horizon :)
Cargo is playing! So much for that. Cancelled the offer cause I know Dustin would say no. Kept the Bautista offer on the table though.
Made same offer to Dexter that I did Raul. Kelly Johnson & Travis Wood for Hanley Ramirez.
Dang dern it! Dex said no.
Just need to make a public announcement that Evan Longorias not on the block. Wont be trading him even if someone overpays.
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk203/mjcebay/tags/longoria-dumbest.jpg
Now I just gotta wait for Raul to say no and my suck fantasy day will be complete. :(
Dex - Sent Jacoby over for Cole. Take a peek!
DexterRiley
06-10-13, 09:15 PM
Dex - Sent Jacoby over for Cole. Take a peek!
groin injury worries me a wee bit. but not that much. Snaggen Jake Westbrook off the DL pile makes this easier to swallow.
We have an accord sir.
Glen Perkins is on The Bad News Bears!
http://aarongleeman.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/glen-perkins-twins.jpg
Had to say goodbye to Kelly Johnson & Travis Wood. There are only so many closers in baseball yknow so the value was there for me. Wont go for a 3rd closer though, 2 will do.
I can flop Everth Cabrera to 2B and Yunel Escobars been hot the past 6 weeks, so he'll be my SS till Jeter gets back. I think Rick Porcello will outperform Wood not because hes better, but the Tigers can earn wins for him like the Cubs cant do for Travis.
rauldc14
06-11-13, 12:09 AM
ah goodie. A potential trade partner for a closer :)
ah goodie. A potential trade partner for a closer :)
Come again? I just offered you Anibal Sanchez & Marcell Ozuna for Bautista & Wil Myers. You didnt even counter. Mike just had to give up Ellsbury to land Hamels, so I know my offer was sound. Youre too expensive for my taste man.
rauldc14
06-11-13, 12:35 AM
there will be counters a coming, and we will eventually strike an accord. I guarantee it.
there will be counters a coming, and we will eventually strike an accord. I guarantee it.
Ha! Thats a bold statement! :yup:
Ok Raul, the balls in your court.
Sorry Raul. Cant give up Anibal & Grandy for Pujols and....Chris Tillman :laugh: Dont go and overextend yourself now, yahear?!
rauldc14
06-11-13, 12:31 PM
whoops. dont know how grandy ended up on there? my bad
whoops. dont know how grandy ended up on there? my bad
:nope:
Dustin Ill give you Jarrod Saltalamacchia for Wil Myers. Saltys been alot better than Salvador Perez all season, and is at his hottest now. I got Ryan Doumit so I can afford to lose him. Offer sent.
rauldc14
06-11-13, 07:03 PM
nah. Wil Myers peak is higher than Salty's. I think Perez is about to do good things now that he's #3 in the order.
Sent Mikey an offer that I think will help both of us moreso than if we didnt trade. Wont say what it is beforehand cause..."its juicy junior. Real juicy". What movie?!
Fine! Its Reservoir Dogs, and Im offering Mikey - Mark Minor OR Anibal Sanchez for Yasiel Puig.
I. Need. Offense. And he's flush on that.
I had to cancel.
Been watching some vids and reading articles on Puig and its just dangerous to trade for him, or to trade him away. Its too soon and his real value is yet to be determined.
What if hes like BJ Upton?! BJ when hot is a top 25 in all of baseball, and then he will do nothing for long stretches. I really wanted Puig, but I really mean I want Puigs production at its rate now. It is impossible he can maintain this pace, and so Im balking on this one.
rauldc14
06-12-13, 08:42 PM
i would give up Sabathia for Puig. :p
Adam just made out big-time!
Adams Quickie received JP Arencibia, a slumping Starlin Castro (wait for it.....) and Hisashi Iwakuma AND the Millwaukee closer Jim Henderson for Tims Suicide Squeezes' Ian Desmond, Brian McCann, and Tommy Milone.
Did these two play cards last night and Tim lose a bet? :laugh:
I thought so at first, too, but the more I like at it I think it's closer than I first believed. Desmond's doing well, and Castro has been a huge disappointment. I'd rather have Adam's side, but I "get" why both sides did it.
rauldc14
06-13-13, 03:14 PM
The trade makes sense to me. Iwakuma is the best in the deal but the 2nd and 3rd best are easily Desmond and McCann
There's also, of course, a huge range in the way reasonable people can value a guy who comes out of nowhere, like Iwakuma.
Well I guess there is that. Its not like everyone Adams giving up is playing at their normal level. If they emerge then its golden for Tim.
Speaking of Tims Squeeze, I got an offer sent to him with Anibal Sanchez & Mitch Moreland (off DL the 21st) for Paul Goldschmidt. Hoping he wants to reseal the pitching he lost.
rauldc14
06-13-13, 03:55 PM
Sent an interesting offer Tongs way: C.C. and Matt Joyce for Glen Perkins and Mike Minor
http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Paul+Goldschmidt+Milwaukee+Brewers+v+Arizona+Qh005qRQBHrl.jpg
Paul Goldschmidt is on The Bad News Bears! I had to give up Anibal Sanchez and Mitch Moreland, but I needed the offense badly.
rauldc14
06-13-13, 05:18 PM
offered C.C and pujols for wright and sale
rauldc14
06-13-13, 05:49 PM
quite surprised that was turned down, but I made a different offer to someone else---C.C. and Pujols for Verlander and Corbin
Frightened Inmate No. 2
06-13-13, 06:56 PM
After much thought, I decided to accept the proposal of CC and Pujols for Verlander and Corbin. It could turn out to be great for me, or I could really regret it.
Verlander has not been as good as I hoped this year, even though I suspect he will get better, and it seems that Corbin is starting to cool off. I expect Pujols to have a much better second half, just like last year, and CC Sabathia should be able to give me some quality starts.
Seems like Verlander is getting his **** together, and looks more like his old self as the season wears on. I expect you are right about Pujols, as well. That said, CC makes me nervous, and I had to pass on him earlier this year. Besides, I have enough Yanks on my team as it is! :sick:
Frightened Inmate No. 2
06-13-13, 07:11 PM
Yeah, I was really nervous about losing Verlander, but I definitely need hitting far more than pitching right now anyway, so I'll take one struggling star who should improve versus another struggling star who should improve.
I am in the opposite situation, so I had to sell my soul for a decent starter. Such is the way of FBB! My rotation looks half decent now...we shall see!
I need Kemp to come back online now that Jacoby is gone. And of course Crisp dings his heel the day the trade clears.
rauldc14
06-13-13, 07:33 PM
again, I took a chance. With having Cargo, Bautista, Encarnacion, Dominic Brown and Pujols, I felt like I could get rid of one of them to boost my pitching corps. I also felt the need to get rid of C.C. because I just don't think he's the same pitcher. So, Corbin and Verlander it is!
rauldc14
06-13-13, 07:37 PM
That said, this now puts me in position to get a clutch SS,2B, or 3B by giving away a top tier pitcher (Verlander,Corbin, or Shelby Miller)
Sent Dexter an offer, and I think he's mulling it over. I want Hanley Ramirez, and offering Mike Minor & Yunel Escobar since he will need a shortstop. I think Minors in the zone this year.
rauldc14
06-14-13, 12:10 AM
Minor is the man. Dex should take that.
Well I had to cancel it, and sent him the "sorry I canceled that offer" Pm. For some reason I thought HanRam had a higher batting average the past 2 seasons. Needing a Ribbie and Average machine to part with Mike Minor.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_BY0lMIui_Lc/TDPGH9G1L5I/AAAAAAAAAUQ/01rPEI1L7eE/s1600/minor.jpg
Mike Minor may be on the move after all.
I have 3 outstanding offers out to 3 teams that Mike Minor would definitely help.
Mikeys Done & Dunns - Offering Minor for Pence. Mikeys flush with offense which helps I'd think.
Sedais Clockwork Angels - Offering Saltalamacchia & Minor for Posey. Saltys' been awesome the past month.
syj's Fightin Fontenots - Mike Minor & Yunel Escobar for Brandon Phillips. Only reason I threw in Yunel was because he would have to flop his current shortstop to second base after this trade. Though like Salty, Yunels been great this past 4-6 weeks.
If nobody bites Ill be keeping Minor because he's in the zone this year. Was trying one more time to move him since Granderson may be out till after the all-star break :( The DL is for suck.
Yeah, Kemp's time got extended too. Good old DL!
Meanwhile: ACCEPTED!
Buster Posey is on The Bad News Bears!!! :) Im glad to have him and Goldschmitty to help fix my * avg & ribbie woes.
http://img.allvoices.com/thumbs/event/609/480/66978411-buster-posey.jpg
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that neither Posey nor Goldschmidt will help your ERA.
My starters: Minor, Masterson, Kuroda, Hamels, Greinke.
Closers: Kimbrel, Papelbon, Bailey.
Wait a sec, my pitching might not suck anymore!
Now I really need Crawford and Kemp back...soon.
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that neither Posey nor Goldschmidt will help your ERA.
LOL! Yeah good call. I meant to say AVG. I fixed it.
http://f.kulfoto.com/pic/0001/0001/QAcgU110.jpg
TONGO tired.
Boy I hope I can wing my pitching like I did in 2011. If not Ill be certainly screwed. there is no "winging" an offense consistently like in head-to-head. I got to 4th and seemed to stop just like last year.
Im actually excited to run with my new team and FINALLY got a good game out of someone off waivers!
Rick Porcello a.k.a. Mr Groundout Man :up:
Just a lil damage control to my pitching since I traded the bulk of it away. Have an offer to PW for Jarrod Parker, and Dex for Julio Teheran. Offering both Adam Lind.
Small trade that might equal huge dividends knowing my pitcher streaming track record :sick:
Hm?! Both gave me quick no's with certain assurity. Guess Ill be stuck with the cleanup hitter for the Blue Jays, and his sad old .339 avg :laugh: Actually itll probably be for the best as I need some of that maybe more than sealing a pitching hole. I cannot think of another "worthwhile"trade angle, and am glad. whew
Really hoping Mike Minor gives me a nice going away present, and Cobb breaks his foot off in the Royal's arse for the thumping theyve given us the last 2 days :eek: Yeah, thats embarrassing. Elliott frickin Johnsons playing the best ball of his life, against us!!! Everytime we play a team that has a player that was on our squad from the year before, they have career days.
Powdered Water
06-15-13, 03:45 PM
Yeah, not sure what I'm looking for in Parker (if anything). Just listening to offers.
DexterRiley
06-15-13, 05:09 PM
Hm?! Both gave me quick no's with certain assurity. Guess Ill be stuck with the cleanup hitter for the Blue Jays, and his sad old .339 avg :laugh: Actually itll probably be for the best as I need some of that maybe more than sealing a pitching hole. I cannot think of another "worthwhile"trade angle, and am glad. whew
Really hoping Mike Minor gives me a nice going away present, and Cobb breaks his foot off in the Royal's arse for the thumping theyve given us the last 2 days :eek: Yeah, thats embarrassing. Elliott frickin Johnsons playing the best ball of his life, against us!!! Everytime we play a team that has a player that was on our squad from the year before, they have career days.
im a Jays fan that isnt a believer in Lind. He does walk alot, but his average is mostly done with mirrors.
A team that has encarcion and bautista but pencils in Lind in Cleanup makes me sad.
Great. Wil Myers is getting called up and hes on the roster of the LAST guy I want to trade with.
Im gonna make one offer, which will be slightly heavy to the Myers owners favor, and then he will counter asking for more, again. Ill reject, but at least Ill know I tried.
Offer sent - Goldschmidt & Adam Lind for Encarnacion & Myers.
Edit in - I had to change it cause he's using Encarnacion as his 3B. So Im asking for Bautista & Myers, offering Goldschmidt & Lind.
rauldc14
06-16-13, 11:18 PM
Not countering. Seeing what this kid has in him first. Then if he struggles I'll trade him:p
I sent one more offer to you. Goldschmidt & Perkins for Encarnacion & Myers.
I dont get it. Raul has offensive might up to his ears, but badly needs pitching. I offer pitching for Wil Myers, (who am I bullshitting. I woulda offered him the kitchen sink lol!), but he said no. So thats that. Right?
I put on the block Im looking for pitchers, and he makes inquiry that any of his solid starting pitchers are available. Am I missing something? I dont think I can even upgrade his offense any.
Heh. I'm pretty sure that hinges on what the "pitching" is. I mean, you can need something, but you can only give up so much value for it. This changes late in the year, of course, but we're not even halfway through the season, so most owners probably won't offer steep value discounts based on need just yet.
But to answer your question: if you've offered a high value and been rebuffed, then yeah, the smart movie is to let it be. :) As always, the worst thing an owner can do is get fixated on a guy and decide that they must have him, cost be damned.
Heh. I'm pretty sure that hinges on what the "pitching" is. I mean, you can need something, but you can only give up so much value for it. This changes late in the year, of course, but we're not even halfway through the season, so most owners probably won't offer steep value discounts based on need just yet.
But to answer your question: if you've offered a high value and been rebuffed, then yeah, the smart movie is to let it be. :) As always, the worst thing an owner can do is get fixated on a guy and decide that they must have him, cost be damned.
Oh trust me I know! Thats why I made a strong push for him then let it go.
rauldc14
06-18-13, 08:31 PM
I dont get it. Raul has offensive might up to his ears, but badly needs pitching. I offer pitching for Wil Myers, (who am I bullshitting. I woulda offered him the kitchen sink lol!), but he said no. So thats that. Right?
I put on the block Im looking for pitchers, and he makes inquiry that any of his solid starting pitchers are available. Am I missing something? I dont think I can even upgrade his offense any.
I now have Verlander and Corbin. And Santana has stepped up. So, to be frank, I don't think I need pitching anymore. Could use a closer, but I need to rectify some offensive positions (2B,SS, possibly C).
I like my pitching over a lot of teams now, and I am anticipating a climb in the ranks, especially if I can finally pile up wins and find another closer or get Betancourt back.
rauldc14
06-18-13, 08:33 PM
I dont get it. Raul has offensive might up to his ears, but badly needs pitching. I offer pitching for Wil Myers, (who am I bullshitting. I woulda offered him the kitchen sink lol!), but he said no. So thats that. Right?
I put on the block Im looking for pitchers, and he makes inquiry that any of his solid starting pitchers are available. Am I missing something? I dont think I can even upgrade his offense any.
you offered pitching yes, but it came at the disposal of my #2 offensive weapon in Encarnacion.
you offered pitching yes, but it came at the disposal of my #2 offensive weapon in Encarnacion.
Ok then. Btw a counter usually is good when things like that happen. Do you want Glen Perkins for Myers straight-up?
rauldc14
06-18-13, 09:36 PM
Verlander is on the trade block.
http://www.kffl.com/images/media/kyle-blanks-580x316-20130521-391x213.jpg
http://cbsdallas.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/169926502_8.jpg?w=594
http://blogimages.thescore.com/mlb/files/2011/09/Adam-Lind-2.jpg
Kyle Blanks, Adam Lind, and Mike Carp are on the trading block. These guys are hot finds that earn steadily. Im looking for some Starting Pitchers that are waiver gems too.
Not that I would turn down Kershaw or anything, but just putting it in perspective. ;)
Powdered Water
06-18-13, 10:54 PM
Sent you a little somthin somthin Tongs.
Sent you a little somthin somthin Tongs.
Thanks for the Jarrod Parker offer man, but for Blanks Im looking for someone less flawed. Parkers inconsistent track record still weighs fresh in my mind.
rauldc14
06-18-13, 11:32 PM
Verbal offer to PW made: Verlander, Joyce, and Arencibia for Joey Votto
Powdered Water
06-19-13, 01:04 AM
Interesting, but I gotta say no.
I changed my mind on the PW trade offer. Sent him the offer Kyle Blanks for Jarrod Parker. PWs offer was pretty much exactly on the money. If Corey Kluber & Rick Porcello can turn it around then whose to say Parkers resurgence isnt real too.
Powdered Water
06-19-13, 01:39 AM
Parker's been fine for two months now. He'll be fine.
Groovy :up:
Carp & Lind are off the Block now y'all. My boo-boo has been healed.
rauldc14
06-19-13, 02:56 PM
Nobody is off the block on Tong's Tradeland (OK, maybe Longoria). Anything is possible
Looks like someone beat my announcement to the punch.
Sent Tims Squeeze an offer of Mike Carp for Mujica. I liked Mujica when he was with the Marlins, and think St Louis will keep making him a better pitcher. Carp seems to be the real deal, and Tim is closer heavy. Seems like a good fit.
I cancelled the offer cause Napolis back, Carps been having hammy troubles, and may be damaged goods.
Decided to make new offer to him, Carp & Lind for Ernesto Frieri.
and it is done.
Ernesto Frieri is on The Bad News Bears!!! My era & whip require 3 closers to repair it.
http://thefanhub.com/uploads/large/uspw_6281778-1343739790.jpg
Was going to throw Rick Porcello to waivers, the Angels are next for him and then the Rays. Decided to offer him to SYJ for Hellickson instead. I traded him Helli before throwing him to waivers so it seems fitting. I think Hellicksons due for a turnaround.
Actually had to cancel that one. I dont have room on my lineup for any era rehabbing experiments.
Actually had to cancel that one. I dont have room on my lineup for any era rehabbing experiments.
Come on man, really? I was going through all of these variables, like Detroit's bad defense vs. Tampa's good defense, Detroit's bad bullpen, Detroit's weaker division, etc. I finally decided to do it and it says "This trade is no longer in a proposed state". Biggest letdown ever!
Edit: In case the sarcasm doesn't come through, I don't really care that much! Fun trade to think about though.
Come on man, really? I was going through all of these variables, like Detroit's bad defense vs. Tampa's good defense, Detroit's bad bullpen, Detroit's weaker division, etc. I finally decided to do it and it says "This trade is no longer in a proposed state". Biggest letdown ever!
Edit: In case the sarcasm doesn't come through, I don't really care that much! Fun trade to think about though.
Sorry man. I have a bad habit of cancelling offers sometimes within minutes of sending them.
Resent the Porcello offer for Hellickson again. Think poor Scotts having to hash it all out again because Hellboy beat the BoSox. I sent him a PM saying whatever he decides is fine, and since Helli beat the BoSox I wont be cancelling it again :laugh:
So while waiting to hear back if Scott wanted Porcello, I get an offer from Dex - Julio Teheran for Glen Perkins.
http://www.gannett-cdn.com/media/USATODAY/USATODAY/2013/03/23/ap-astros-braves-spring-baseball-4_3_rx404_c534x401.jpg?87cc7ae5b5e3d133be9f113f907a13faa9f8741e
Julio Teheran is on The Bad News Bears!!! Guess Im destined to have 2 closers.
Good trade Dex :up:
He was named in a PED scandal amongst many in baseball, and is currently on the 15 day DL for a tweaked hamstring. So there are risks.
He also leads all of baseball for steals, bats .305 avg, and can be placed in the 2B or SS slots.
Everth Cabrera is on the Trading Block. Looking for offense.
http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Everth+Cabrera+San+Diego+Padres+v+Cincinnati+kc0K1EAx3gLl.jpg
rauldc14
06-21-13, 11:57 PM
Me and Dex have agreed to our first trade of the year. I am a little skeptical on my end, but I got Ellsbury and Grilli for Bautista and Ervin Santana. My 3 1st rounders seems like a distant dream: Only CarGo remains.
Not too sure why I took the trade. The 0/4 Bautista days are agonizing and Ervin Santana always pitches solid but can't get buy a win because he's a Royal.
I figured saves would be an easy category to catch up on, and maybe Ellsbury can steal some bases and provide some runs. Disappointed I had to give up some power though, so I may dwindle Verlander on the trade block for some power.
DexterRiley
06-22-13, 12:15 AM
Well i had origiinally put an offer together that packaged a SS along with Ellsbury and a closer for Bautista and Verlander, but when i submitted it, saw your offer and hopped on it.
Bautistas average blows, but my squad ought be able to absorb that. What i need out of him is 30 homers and 60 Ribbies.
Ellsbury was deemed expendable only because McClouth and Bourgois bring the same skillset to the table albeit with lesser knwn names.
Sad to see Grilli go, but gotta give to get.
Decided to take Everth Cabrera off the trading block. If he comes back in two weeks and doesnt get suspended he will be a top 25 player like he is now. Doubt Ill bump into anything like that on waivers or if I traded him away. So alls I got to hope for is he doesnt get suspended.
DexterRiley
06-23-13, 01:46 PM
my my cup runneth over in Quality SS.
Accepting offers that include heavy Timber.
Offering Rauls Crackerjacks Julio Teheran for Wil Myers.
My entire team's hitting .286, and that's with injuries all year, so if anyone needs batting average I've got some to spare.
rauldc14
06-24-13, 12:17 PM
Trades have made me and broken me. Though I believe my team is better than my originally drafted team, I've made a few trading mistakes, I think the biggest currently would be the deal giving away Pujols and Sabathia for Corbin and Verlander. Verlander was supposed to ace my squad, instead he's had back to back clunkers. Pujols was a trading chip that I could have gotten other things from, and well Verlander has very limited value at this current point. On the other hand, I did get Cargo and Addison Reed for Kemp and Carlos Beltran.
On the other hand, I did get Cargo and Addison Reed for Kemp and Carlos Beltran.
Now youre trying to get that b.b.d. again by asking for Goldschmidt, and offering Jacoby "No power" Ellsbury & Wil Myers. A fair trade would be Cargo & Myers for Goldy & Teheran. You would benefit from that more cause it would help your pitching, and move Cargos #'s to your infield slot which you said you wanted a strong infield. Also this way you are not the only one benefiting from the deal.
rauldc14
06-24-13, 12:53 PM
jacoby has no power indeed. But that's not what is expected from him, either. He's for solid average, runs, and steals. I'm done trading for pitching, it's gotten me into nothing but trouble. Lost Pujols and Bautista for getting cream of the crop pitcher and closer only to see them implode my ERA more.
Well I know I at least tried every intelligent avenue possible.
Cant think of any trade offers to make to anyone. Unless something comes my way that's interesting I think Ill be in a holding pattern for awhile.
Sure, and if my grandmother had wheels, she would be a wagon. ;)
I guess I found a trade angle after all. Shut up Seds
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/images/photos/001/379/246/127712539_crop_650x440.jpg?1317442043
Made two deals. I sent Julio Teheran to Tims Squeeze for Matt Moore. If Moore rebounds like Helli has the last 2 starts then I definitely got him on the cheap.
http://www.f-covers.com/cover/tampa-bay-rays-jeremy-hellickson-facebook-cover-timeline-banner-for-fb.jpg
http://i2.mail.com/738/2168738,h=425,pd=1,w=620/bartolo-colon.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/1PyheJ5.jpg
Made a deal with Scotts Fontenots giving him Esmil Rogers (a throw in), Everth Cabrera, and Jarrod Parker for Nick Franklin, Jeremy Hellickson, and Bartolo Colon. If Everth avoids suspension then Scott made out like a bandit. He might. I think by now something wouldve happened.
rauldc14
06-25-13, 05:24 PM
I proposed a trade to done and dunn. Swinging for the fences trying to get Miguel Cabrera, I give him steals leader Jacoby Ellsbury, saves leader Jason Grilli, and J.P. Arencibia, who has 15 homers himself this season. We will see, but I'm swinging big for a star. If this doesn't work I'll try other avenues.
rauldc14
06-25-13, 10:30 PM
Denied, but I got two more biggins out there
Prince Fielder for Ellsbury and Grilli
Joey Votto for Ellsbury and Grilli
Powdered Water
06-25-13, 11:37 PM
Done. Thanks!
rauldc14
06-25-13, 11:47 PM
Pumped to get Votto. Seems like an overpay but if I look at it from a Votto for Baustista and Santana perspective I am fine with it. Plus, Votto is a bonafide stud and honestly hasn't even played his best ball yet.
Votto, Encarnacion, Cargo, Domonic Brown, and Wil Myers leading the charge. If my pitching can somehow come through, (come on, I have Verlander, Corbin, Shelby plus Addison Reed and Betancourt coming back from DL on Friday) then I may have a chance to reach the mid level of the standings yet again.
Dexter made an offer to me of HanRam for Posey, and I rejected. A week later and Im thinking, eeeeeh maybe so, and sent the offer. Then I cancelled it.
Im kinda hung up on the fact Poseys a catcher I wont be able to replace, and I have Derek Jeter coming after the break to fill my shortstop slot. Urge is strong though. HanRams been killing it, but I also think the best of Busters yet to come.
rauldc14
06-26-13, 03:36 PM
with grilli come and gone, I'm in the market for another closer. Looking for just an average closer and Matt Joyce is my #1 option though everything will be considered.
Sorry dex, but I'm not parting with Encarnacion and Cargo for Peralta, HanRam, and McLouth
with grilli come and gone, I'm in the market for another closer. Looking for just an average closer and Matt Joyce is my #1 option though everything will be considered.
Matt Joyce is a platoon hitter as they dont like to put him against lefties, and his bat has cooled in recent weeks.
Sent an offer to Scotts Fontenots, Ernesto Frieri for Raphael Soriano. I like Soriano more is all.
I guess he does too cause he said no.
Sent an offer to Patricks Seals - Bartolo Colon, and how about Bartolo! He done whooped the St Louis Cardinals arse last night, and handily. Anyway Im offering him to Patrick for Joaquin Benoit.
This is all about ERA & Whip reconstruction folks.
Decided to cancel the Seals offer, and focus on Ribbies & Avg. My pitchings ok as long as at least half of my boys throw ok. I hope.
Trading away Blanks, Lind, (and Carp if they play him more) well that couldve been a bad idea. Its done now though, but Im open to players with great RBI & Avg production if anyone feels like making a deal. :)
DexterRiley
07-01-13, 04:18 PM
Dear Rauld, helpful tip for proposing trades: at least make some vague attempt to strengthen my squad. Offering JP Arencibia and Matt Joyce, either of whom wouldnt unseat any of my regulars, for my closer in Perkins, makes no sense in any sense of the word.
You been bitchen about your infield since beginning of season, which is why i been includen Peralta in trade talks as he is a signifigant upgrade.
I'm still stunned u traded Grilli to the number 1 team for Votto whose strengths u dont need.
/end rant
rauldc14
07-01-13, 04:40 PM
"Sorry dex, but I'm not parting with Encarnacion and Cargo for Peralta, HanRam, and McLouth"
The end.
DexterRiley
07-01-13, 04:54 PM
"Sorry dex, but I'm not parting with Encarnacion and Cargo for Peralta, HanRam, and McLouth"
The end.
take a look at your needs. position by position.
do u ever do that, like ever?
i offered u value.
u offered me 2 waiver scrubs for a closer.
see the difference?
rauldc14
07-01-13, 05:28 PM
Hopefully we can come to some sort of mutal agreeance in ways once football season hits. Position needs don't matter if you are getting ripped off. And it's funny that everyone is calling Joyce a scrub. No he's not one of the better players but he's been just as steady as a guy like Peralta has been.
DexterRiley
07-01-13, 05:55 PM
And it's funny that everyone is calling Joyce a scrub. No he's not one of the better players but he's been just as steady as a guy like Peralta has been.
Are u high?
check the numbers again.
Also, comparing baseball fantasy to Football fantasy is like, well its not remotelt alike at all.
rauldc14
07-01-13, 06:04 PM
Here's your numbers
Peralta: 89/283, 7 HRs, 36 RBI, 35 runs, 2 steals, .314 average
Joyce 59/243, 14 HRs, 31 RBI, 43 runs, 6 steals, .243 average
So yes, statistically speaking Joyce is having the better season. While his average is nowhere near Peralta, he has double the HRs, triple the steals, more runs and just 5 RBI less than Peralta. And that's in 40 less at bats.
So you may be the high one my friend.
Joyce is 36th among OFs on ESPN's Player Rater, which makes him a mid-range #3 OF in our league. So he's basically the definition of a solid (if unexciting) player. And ESPN's position ranker guy has Peralta 119th and Joyce 130th among all hitters, for what it's worth, which is a pretty tiny gap. So I don't mind the comparison, even though you'd probably want Peralta in a vacuum given the position.
rauldc14
07-01-13, 06:08 PM
Joyce is 36th among OFs on ESPN's Player Rater, which makes him a mid-range #3 OF in our league. Perfectly solid player.
Thank you. Look I know you don't "like" the offer Dex, but as far as it being fair, it's not out of the stretch of the imagination, especially if you are going to be as statistical about it as you normally are.
Peralta wasn't a part of the offer, just a comparison piece in point for the conversation. To me, just because Peralta is a top 10 SS doesn't mean he has the value of a top 10 OF, if you know what I mean. He probably has a value somewhere around a top 30 OF.
Joyce is currently ranked higher at Yahoo (107 vs. 119).
DexterRiley
07-01-13, 06:39 PM
Joyce is 36th among OFs on ESPN's Player Rater, which makes him a mid-range #3 OF in our league. So he's basically the definition of a solid (if unexciting) player. And ESPN's position ranker guy has Peralta 119th and Joyce 130th among all hitters, for what it's worth, which is a pretty tiny gap. So I don't mind the comparison, even though you'd probably want Peralta in a vacuum given the position.
according to same player rater, Peralta is 5th among SS.
that sorta matters.
DexterRiley
07-01-13, 06:49 PM
Here's your numbers
Peralta: 89/283, 7 HRs, 36 RBI, 35 runs, 2 steals, .314 average
Joyce 59/243, 14 HRs, 31 RBI, 43 runs, 6 steals, .243 average
So yes, statistically speaking Joyce is having the better season. While his average is nowhere near Peralta, he has double the HRs, triple the steals, more runs and just 5 RBI less than Peralta. And that's in 40 less at bats.
So you may be the high one my friend.
ok stay with me here Rauld. Those are the baseball stats.
but are they enjoyed equally by their owners?
if Peralta is on your team, hes in the lineup and forget about it. So all his stat goodness is captured.
Joyce as u well know, had plenty of good days while he was on your bench, because its awfully hard to trust a .240 hitter, that routinely sits vs lefties.
He's frustrating that way, which is a key difference between the actual numbers of real baseball, and fantasy.
the numbers only matter if u started him that day, and just as often, u pencil him in, hes not in the lineup, and somebody on your bench goes off.
no thanks.
but yes i am high :D
according to same player rater, Peralta is 5th among SS.
that sorta matters.
Sure. But you only need to field one SS and 3 OFs. That matters, too.
Anyway, the main point is that when you look at total rankings on both Yahoo and ESPN they both have those two players as being of roughly equal value. 'Course, the could be high, too. ;D
rauldc14
07-01-13, 07:52 PM
Alright, so in another instance, Matt Carpenter is the 5th rated 2nd basemen in baseball. Prince Fielder is the tenth rated 1st basemen. According to your logic, it sorta matters that Carpenter is rated 5th among 2B, and surely Carpenter has more value then Fielder?
You can't hold the same logic for a players value that you do for 1 player and not hold it for everybody, or am I just talking nonsense?
DexterRiley
07-01-13, 08:18 PM
Alright, so in another instance, Matt Carpenter is the 5th rated 2nd basemen in baseball. Prince Fielder is the tenth rated 1st basemen. According to your logic, it sorta matters that Carpenter is rated 5th among 2B, and surely Carpenter has more value then Fielder?
You can't hold the same logic for a players value that you do for 1 player and not hold it for everybody, or am I just talking nonsense?
yes u are talking nonsense.
rauldc14
07-01-13, 08:23 PM
yes u are talking nonsense.
that's one man's opinion.
Powdered Water
07-01-13, 08:27 PM
You two get a room.
Look, I think we can all agree that Matt Joyce makes Babe Ruth look like a pile of dog crap and Jhonny Peralta's name is a typo that his parents couldn't bring themselves to correct.
Powdered Water
07-01-13, 08:34 PM
Now that, I'm in agreeance with.
rauldc14
07-01-13, 08:36 PM
Matt Joyce gets the night off tonight. :laugh:
That's a shame, because knowing him he'd probably go 5 for 4 and impregnate the other team's shortstop with the sheer force of his gaze.
That's a shame, because knowing him he'd probably go 5 for 4 and impregnate the other team's shortstop with the sheer force of his gaze.
That would be a good Dos Equis beer commercial. "His gaze has been known to impregnate. So he wears sunglasses as a form of birth control. Stay thirsty my friends."
Matt Joyce picked the Dos Equis guy up like a club and beat Chuck Norris to death with him.
Powdered Water
07-01-13, 08:53 PM
That would be so dope.
By the way, has anyone else had problems getting the StatTracker to load? I haven't gotten it to come up in like a week. I'd ask Matt Joyce for help but I think he's busy cutting down redwoods with his genitals.
Powdered Water
07-01-13, 10:19 PM
Stat tracker is for the weak.
Ive had no problem with it. Must be your internet company. Give them a strong holler.
Or it could be spyware. I had some spyware once that disabled alot of features, and prevented me from getting updates on others.
DexterRiley
07-06-13, 12:42 PM
If baseball had been around in Shakespearian times
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhQ9aeCE8Oo
rauldc14
07-13-13, 12:41 PM
Myers and Miller offered for Goldy
rauldc14
07-13-13, 01:56 PM
going to make a break the bank offer for cano
Myers and Miller offered for Goldy
Why do you complain about Dexters offers when yours are in the same vein in what you complain about?
rauldc14
07-13-13, 01:59 PM
Why do you complain about Dexters offers when yours are in the same vein in what you complain about?
nah. Just a matter of testing your homerism.
:rolleyes: This is all needlessly dramatic. Not every offer you dislike has to result in a lecture. It ain't like you haven't paid top dollar for Rays before.
Anyway, if you actually want someone to leave you alone, I'm pretty sure rejecting the offer and moving on is more likely to achieve than that trying to call them out in public, which pretty much guarantees a response.
Fair enough. Ill delete the response altogether, and will be chill :cool:
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Clayton Kershaw's on The Bad News Bears!!! :)
I gave up to Pats' Seals - Ernesto Frieri, Bartolo Colon, and Leonys Martin. Should provide some depth in areas where I was flush in (saves, k's, & steals), and now Kershaw joins Peavy, Chatwood, and my 4 Rays (Price, Moore, Hellickson, and Cobb/Archer).
My pitching strategy is going to be a matchup process. I know I can throw Price & Kershaw up against anyone, but the rest I have to be selective. All those Rays are in the AL East, and thats where the sluggers are.
I might consider trading Hellickson and or Moore if the right offer comes along. It would have to be a player, or players who are explosive earners in RBI & Avg. Just saying I might.
.......like Allen Craig. I sent an offer to Scotts Fontenots - Matt Moore & Jeremy Hellickson for Allen Craig. Like the trade with Frightened inmate 2 this addresses needs on both sides, syj needs Wins & K's where Im flush, and I need RBI & Avg.
If he accepts then Ill be off the trading block (yeah yeah, ha ha) as both trades deplete me of any wiggle room in the foreseeable future.
Havent heard back from syj/Fontenots regarding Craig. Just in case I sent an offer to Adam of Moore & Helli for Beltran. Guess whoever accepts first gets them.
Well syj/Scott said no. Waiting for Adams response now.
Ah screw it. I cancelled the offer to Adam. Not sure Beltrans "all that" but mostly Id rather keep Moore & Helli if theres any doubt whatsoever.
rauldc14
07-17-13, 05:40 PM
There's an interesting trade in limbo right now. It's Votto/Ozuna/Shelby Miller and Dom Brown for Chris Davis/Nelson Cruz/and Casey Jansen.
With the acquisition of Adrian Gonzalez, Kelly Johnson, and Bronson Arroyo I wont be on the trading block for the foreseeable future. I gave up to Inmates Seals Matt Moore, Nick Franklin, and Michael Brantley.
From my perspective I feel Moore and Arroyo will have similar ERAs and Whips, but Moore will produce a ton of K's. A ton of K's I dont need moreso just era & whip. Getting rid of Nick Franklin shouldnt hurt as Ive noticed KJ is heating up again, and I trust Gonzo over Michael Brantley long term.
rauldc14
07-17-13, 08:10 PM
With the acquisition of Adrian Gonzalez, Kelly Johnson, and Bronson Arroyo I wont be on the trading block for the foreseeable future.
:rotfl::laugh::rotfl::shrug::laugh::rotfl::laugh:
rauldc14
07-17-13, 08:18 PM
General trading rule #6-- In no way or shape would anyone in a trade with 5 total players involved give up the 2 best players in the deal.
General trading rule #6-- In no way or shape would anyone in a trade with 5 total players involved give up the 2 best players in the deal.
What are you talking about?
rauldc14
07-17-13, 08:25 PM
What are you talking about?
I'll PM you to let you know.
C_ Buster Posey
1B Paul Goldschmidt
3B Evan Longoria
SS Derek Jeter (I hope)
OF Desmond Jennings
OF Curtis Granderson (soon to be back)
OF Adrian Gonzalez
SP Clayton Kershaw
SP David Price
RP Fernando Rodney
RP K-Rod
P_ Jake Peavy
P_ Alex Cobb (back soon)
P_ Jeremy Hellickson
I cant complain. Only sketchy slot is 2B, Kelly Johnson or Maicer Izturis. Think KJs gonna have a big second half and will be played more, but if not he will split time with Izturis. Grandy & Cobb are the only ones left on the DL, and the light at the end of the tunnels getting brighter.
rauldc14
07-20-13, 11:24 PM
somebody please take Verlander away from me. I didn't think it would be possible to be more disappointing than Sabathia, but it is.
somebody please take Verlander away from me. I didn't think it would be possible to be more disappointing than Sabathia, but it is.
You could move him quick if youre willing for the other guy to get him on the cheap. It would be better though if you kept him and slotted him vs weaker opponents since youre in dire need of pitching. Im gonna have to do that with David Price even if Im to ever improve my era & whip. Theres just nobody on waivers who is as good as or has the upside of a Justin Verlander.
Sabathia, well I dont know. Good for K's, but IMO his best days are behind him.
rauldc14
07-21-13, 12:38 AM
You could move him quick if youre willing for the other guy to get him on the cheap. It would be better though if you kept him and slotted him vs weaker opponents since youre in dire need of pitching. Im gonna have to do that with David Price even if Im to ever improve my era & whip. Theres just nobody on waivers who is as good as or has the upside of a Justin Verlander.
Sabathia, well I dont know. Good for K's, but IMO his best days are behind him.
weaker opponents......like the Royals who just blasted him for 5 runs.......or the pathetic White Sox that he couldn't get a W against a couple weeks ago?
Well you got me there. Hm........Ill give you Bronson Arroyo for him :laugh:
Offering Raul - Jeremy Hellickson & Jake Peavy for Wil Myers.
Frightened Inmate No. 2
07-22-13, 02:53 AM
somebody please take Verlander away from me. I didn't think it would be possible to be more disappointing than Sabathia, but it is.
i'll give you sabathia for him. :p
Frightened Inmate No. 2
07-23-13, 01:46 PM
seriously, does anybody want Sabathia? I will literally give him away for the worst player in the league. I'd give him away for free if I could. I'd trade him for a ham sandwich, and I don't even like ham sandwiches that much! Just please take him.
Hmmm. How much ham are we talking? Like, more than a couple of slices?
Frightened Inmate No. 2
07-23-13, 02:00 PM
two slices would be fine.
I sent an offer to Sedai for Howie Kendrick - Kelly Johnson & Jake Peavy.
Thought I was done trading but this makes sense. It would be good to get someone with a high avg thats steady at second, KJ is more about power, and Id still have 5 starters (6 if Archers kept in rotation when Cobb returns) with less than 460 innings left to pitch.
....and of course I cancelled the offer. Maybe I was overtrading for Kendrick.
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
Pats Loose Seals just traded CC Sabathia away to Adams Martes for............Jake Marisnick. Who?! A Miami outfielder called up two days ago.
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