Breaking Bad

[Austruck]

Seven hours... (sigh)

Been watching the AMC marathon off and on for days now. SO much makes so much more sense when you watch these things in a more concentrated time frame.

I had forgotten that there have been several times when Walt wanted out or didn't seem to be so Heisenberg-y, but others talked him into things.

1. Saul talks him back into cooking again (so that Saul will keep getting money, of course).

2. When Gus offers Walt $3 million for three months, Jesse complains to Walt that their $1.5 million each is a mere pittance compared to what the meth will sell for ($96 million). I'd forgotten that Jesse was really into the money this much. Walt's response was, "Hey, Jesse, you're a millionaire. Why isn't that enough?"

And yet, of course, Walt had already figured out the $96 million because he finishes Jesse's sentence with the figure. I assume he didn't just calculate it in his head at that moment, so Walt at least had been curious enough to run the numbers. So, although he seems completely uninterested in pursuing more money from Fring, we also know that he's already calculated the profits.

Other things that were right out in the open but not obvious to us until we know what happens: Mike Ermentrout says more than once that he doesn't want to be around Walt when his ticking time bomb personality goes off. Mike is perhaps the only person who really understands just what makes Walt tick ... and that's why he just doesn't want any part of it. He sees the writing on the wall.

And, many times Walt says to Mike, "I know you don't like me, but..." Yet, it's clear now that Walt doesn't like Mike either. The difference is that Mike's dislike of Walt is accurate and it's not based on any pride on Mike's part. Mike's just been in this business too long and can spot a trouble ego a mile away. For him, working with Fring was different. Fring was a consummate professional -- didn't let his ego get in the way and preferred to fly under the radar.

But Walt is different, and Mike knows that's dangerous.

Walt's dislike of Mike, though, is based on pride and ego. Walt doesn't like that Mike can take or leave him. He doesn't like that Mike isn't impressed with his Heisenberg-iness. He doesn't like that Mike is the only person he can't talk into things. The one thing he talked Mike into (letting Walt keep the chemicals so he can keep cooking on his own) comes to a showdown in the desert with Walt insisting that everyone acknowledge his badassness by saying his name, etc. At that point, and ONLY that point, Mike says, "I gotta hand it to you, Walt..." and admits that Walt's plan worked.

But Mike knows about the ticking time bomb and still wants out.

ANYWAY, the subtle progression of Walt (and others) is a beautiful thing to watch in such a concentrated dose. What I appreciate about Cranston's acting (and Paul's and Gunn's) is that it never turns into a caricature. It never becomes clear that, "Oh, NOW he's evil!" There are many small breaking points where Walt moves further from morality, but I appreciate that they took the time and patience to show us how this sort of thing works in real life: in slow, almost imperceptible increments.

And that's why a character like Walt can, even up until these final episodes, keep declaring that "We're a family!"

Speaking of which, one more small thing: I'd also forgotten that, in the bar scene between Walt and Jane's dad, Walt launches into his story and talks about his wayward "nephew" ... and both men lament clinging to family members who struggle with big issues. Although Walt was using "nephew" to simply relate his story in the right way, I think this also indicates that he really has thought of Jesse as family for a long, long time.

And so, for Walt to turn Jesse over to Uncle Jack, assuming Jack would kill him, is perhaps the single worst thing Walt has done. Why? Because his battle cry has been "Family!" and he has even, in the past, become disgusted with Saul for suggesting offing any of his family -- both Hank and Jesse at different points. Walt can hardly believe Saul is even suggesting such a thing. He acts the same when Skyler suggests getting rid of Jesse.

So, with "family" being his battle cry, when he finally cuts Jesse loose, it (to me) seems like all bets are off with Walt. Nobody is safe anymore.

Least of all, himself.

[Austruck]

One side note: Having watched so many episodes so close together since Wednesday, I'm pretty convinced that the ricin is for Lydia and will end up substituted for her precious stevia/sweetener. They've shown us way too many times her and that tea and those packets. And of course, the meeting between Walt and Lydia where she writes down the inmates' names is the most obvious: Though Walt makes fun of her paranoia that he'd actually murder her "right here in the coffee shop," we see at the end of that scene that he had the ricin with him, under his hat, and was fully prepared to do just that.

So, in his mind, he's associated that ricin with killing her at least once already. And he's always found her a sort of loose cannon/loose end. She has to go. It has to be the ricin.

[Mmmm Donuts]

I fully agree with that. If that wasn't enough, there's another great reason to kill her, and all that has to happen is Skylar tells Walt that Todd paid his family a little visit, courtesy of Lydia.

But for some reason, I don't really want to see her dead. Her character fits well with what I would be like if I were in the show. I'm really paranoid about stuff, and I'm good with numbers and business.

The only difference is that I don't f*ck with Heisenberg.

[Austruck]

True...although with just this last episode left, I'm wondering how Skyler's going to be able to do that. It seems as if they're still keeping a close eye on her (though the two dummies in the car out front never saw Todd et al. coming in through the back, so how close is "close"?).

Either way, I think the "satisfying" ending has to be that all the main bad guys die: Uncle Jack and the Nazis, Meth Damon, Lydia, and Walt. All those folks are menaces to society, and we don't feel safe leaving this world until we know they're all gone.

This is partly why Jesse may be allowed to live. I don't see him as a threat to anyone, so we'd be okay with him surviving. Although what still remains for him after all this seems scant reason to want to live...

[Austruck]

Another side note: It seems that AMC is putting on the screen every hour how many hours are left. So, just after 2:00 we saw a shot of Heisenberg putting on his hat (from the back), with "7 HOURS" superimposed over the hat.

I'm waiting to see if they do it again in the next 15 minutes, with "6 HOURS." It's been mighty effective, actually. I have an errand to run ... and even though I've seen all these episodes, and fairly recently, I don't want to go! I want to stay here and keep the momentum going.

Either way, it's a good thing I'm taking the day off from paid work. LOL

[Austruck]

I just noticed an interesting parallel between the two wives, Skyler and Marie:

-- Skyler, in the scene where Walt's been out cold on the bathroom floor, cautions him that the best course of action is to just say nothing, to be quiet.

-- Marie, on the other hand, cautions Hank that the best course of action is to say everything, to NOT be quiet.

I think both women are right in their advice to their husbands. And it's a fascinating parallel, and it happens fairly close together in this last half-season too. Funny I didn't notice it until now.

[Mmmm Donuts]

Also interesting how in the beginning of the show, it was Skylar who was judging and condemning Marie for her bad habit of theft, but now it seems the tables have turned.

[Austruck]

Ah yes! Good point! The tables have definitely turned.

Oh, and yet another small, small point. The short scene where we last saw Marie -- in the SUV being driven back to her house -- she's not wearing purple (probably for the first time, but I'd have to go back through the whole series to confirm that). She's wearing black.

I gotta think they did that on purpose. And she just looks so bleak anyway, sitting in that SUV in a stunned state of shock. The black instead of purple is almost jarring.

[Austruck]

One more reason I think all the "bad guys" have to die tonight: The motto/slogan/tag line for this entire final season has been "All bad things must come to an end."

Seems pretty obvious, really. Yes, yes, they do. All of them.

[Mmmm Donuts]

Yep. She's certainly in the mourning phase of her character at this point.

Also, the bingo sheet (if I remember correctly?) with the coordinates have gone from leading to immeasurable wealth to immeasurable sorrow (the bodies of Hank and Gomez). Sad stuff.

[Yoda]

I can't think of a more apt metaphor for the show than having a lottery ticket you think leads to treasure only to learn it leads you to death.

[Mmmm Donuts]

Good call, Yoda. I don't know why I thought it was a bingo sheet -_-

http://media.moddb.com/images/groups/1/6/5542/Derp_Derp_Derp.png

[Yoda]

When I mentioned that to my brother he also pointed out that Walt dug Hank's grave just as literally as he did metaphorically, even though he didn't realize it at the time.

[Austruck]

Wayne and I wondered out loud why he chose a lottery ticket. Because honestly, now that Hank was onto him, nobody in their right mind would believe someone with that much money would even BUY a lottery ticket. Sitting on that fridge, it just screamed, "I'm here for some other reason! I'm not just a random lottery ticket!"

Is it even still there? If so, it'd now lead to Hank and Gomez's grave and not to the money.

[Yoda]

Yeah, that's exactly what I meant about it leading to death instead of treasure.

[Mmmm Donuts]

I doubt anyone would be able to guess what the numbers mean. Walt will have to tell Skylar. Or worse, Marie, so she can find her dead husband.

[Austruck]

OH, I just saw somewhere else that someone predicts that Jesse kills Lydia ... in front of Todd. Oh, that'd be sweet revenge for Drew Sharp and Andrea...

[Austruck]

You know, the really BIG question for this final episode is: Will we see Walter White in his tighty-whities one last time? Because, if anything tied this entire series together from beginning to end, it's Walt stripping his pants off and letting his underwear show.

:D

[Lucas]

Death count predictions for tonight:
Todd
Jack
Kenny
The other neo-nazi's
Walt
Jesse
Lydia

[Austruck]

Death count predictions for tonight:
Todd
Jack
Kenny
The other neo-nazi's
Walt
Jesse
Lydia

Oh my gosh! THEY KILLED KENNY!

[seanc]

You guys want to use this as a live thread during the finale?

[Austruck]

You guys want to use this as a live thread during the finale?

I might be interested in this, although the past few episodes I've spent on the edge of my seat, shushing even myself to make sure I don't miss anything important. But I AM forced to watch this last episode alone (!!), and that's just wrong. LOL

Hey Yoda! I wonder if you can set up the chat room like we use during the Oscars?

Or should we just use the Shoutbox or this thread? Or will we all end up on the edge of our seats unable to type anything coherent anyway? I don't relish the thought of looking away from the TV long enough to type anything.

LOL, I'm so TORN!

[seanc]

There is always the commercial break. lol

[Austruck]

Update on Marie's wardrobe: In the scene where Marie goes to the car wash to talk to Skyler and tell her Hank has arrested Walt: Marie is already wearing black (I assume this is the same clothing/continuation as in the SUV later)... and Skyler's shirt sleeves are purple at the cuffs.

The tables have turned indeed, even in their wardrobe colors.

[Austruck]

There is always the commercial break. lol

Those commercial breaks are going to be torture. :)

[Austruck]

As I rewatch "Ozymandias," there's one thing that just doesn't click with me. On that phone call with Skyler, why did he make it sound as if he had singlehandedly killed Hank? At this stage of things, just hours after Hank was killed, I didn't have the sense that Walt had already formulated a plan to take care of Uncle Jack on his own ... so why wouldn't he implicate them in the death of Hank? What's the down side of telling them about that? It's not like he had to make himself sound any worse to his family or the cops than he already does....

Enlighten me?

[Yoda]

The downside is the authorities going after them first and confiscating all the money.

[Austruck]

Ah yeah, that's the part I hadn't factored in. They have stuff of his that he'd never get back if he let the authorities go after Uncle Jack.

Yeah. Thanks. That's been bugging me for two weeks now. LOL

[Yoda]

I'd say there's probably a "don't rat" element to it, too. One of the most striking things about his turning on Jesse was the way it revealed just how thoroughly he's adopted the criminal mindset, where talking to authorities is least forgivable offense. He was less upset when Jesse put a gun to his head.

[Grimm35]

I predict they all die as Walt pointed out watching Scarface with Walt Jr errr Flynn.

[Mmmm Donuts]

Great point! I forgot about that hilarious scene. They're just sitting around watch Scarface.

[seanc]

The Scarface thing has been talked about for a long time with this show. So when he pulls the machine gun out of the trunk that is the first thing most people thought of. For that reason I think it is too obvious of a way for Gilligan to go, and I hope he doesn't.

[Austruck]

He could still hint at Walt thinking of this scene/movie, though, even if it doesn't work out that way.

Ten minutes left... and AMC has been doing the countdown at every commercial break. I just saw the "15 MINUTES" one during the last break. They just know how to torture people, don't they? LOL

[Austruck]

I just rewatched the scene where Walt calls the authorities on the pay phone in the bar. It looks as if he dials only 3 numbers, so I assumed it was 9-1-1.

And yet the phone answers, "DEA Office, Albuquerque Branch" -- or something similar. But he's still in New Hampshire. WTF?

Or, if he did dial more than three numbers, he doesn't look at any sort of piece of paper or anything. He doesn't have that number memorized, so what did I miss this time?

[Grimm35]

Here we go!

[Austruck]

Nearly a half-hour in. So far, I'm thoroughly enjoying it! I can almost feel the loose ends being tied up. LOL

[Austruck]

Commercial now for "Need for Speed" ... Does Aaron Paul ever have a part where he doesn't have blood on his face? LOL

[Austruck]

I am checking loose ends off my list left and right.

Twenty minutes left. Is anyone here but me? seanc... what about the commercial breaks? LOL

[seanc]

sorry austruck my kids did not cooperate with me watching live. I am about 20 minutes from the end.

[Austruck]

Just ended.

Totally satisfied.

And if anyone else sees a loose end or plot discrepancy, don't post it here for at least a week. Don't spoil this moment for me. :)

I have some questions, but it's time for Talking Bad.

[Austruck]

I held it together for this episode pretty well ... until Walt was stroking Holly's hair. And then when Flynn went into the apartment building and closed the door... and you could see that Walt knew he had just seen his family for the last time.

Totally lost it at those moments.

[seanc]

Good finale. Looking forward to hearing Gilligan talk about it. Real bummer one of the great shows is gone.

[Austruck]

Talking Bad's great this time too. Am enjoying Gilligan talking about certain aspects of the show.

[Austruck]

Hey, here's the one question about the ending sticking out in my head right now:

So what does Jesse do from here? He doesn't have any money. He doesn't know where the money is (I assume). He has nothing. And, I assume he's still badly wanted by the police.

He doesn't even have money to get himself disappeared. Not that he even knows who to call about that. And Saul's now managing a Cinnabon in Nebraska. So, how is this a happy ending for Jesse, much beyond the next few hours for him?

[TheUsualSuspect]

I'm assuming he becomes a carpenter. Otherwise, what was the point of that sequence?


I enjoyed the finale, it tied things up nicely. Went where I wanted it to go and ended on a note that was bitter sweet. I loved the scene between Walt and Skylar, the framing of them was perfect with the wooden pillar dividing them. He finally admits that he was doing it for himself and he enjoyed it.

Good call on the ricin Aus.

Nice to see Jesse get his revenge on Meth Damon, that was a brutal death.

Loved Walt's final moments, just taking in the beauty of the meth lab.

Good finale, the total opposite of Dexter. Ha.

[Austruck]

Ha! The finale of Dexter. What a MESS.

One more logistical plot question:

In the opening scene, when Walt gets into the Volvo and waits it out as the cop car lights flash all around him for what felt like an eternity... HOW did they not check that car to see if someone was in it? Aren't we to assume he was at least NEAR the bar somewhere?

It's freaking snowy outside. Wouldn't they see the footprints leading right up to the car? Or are we to extrapolate on our own that either they were never sure it was a good tip anyway and gave up? Or that the snow was already tamped down and no new footprints would have been visible?

[Austruck]

I guess my question about Jesse isn't really what *career options* would he pursue? But honestly, he's going to have to fly under the radar, like, forever. He has no immunity through Hank or anything, so he's a huge fugitive. And he now has exactly no one to help him do that. Except maybe Badger and Skinny Pete... (and how great was THAT scene? I laughed out loud!)

How does he actually manage that life? This is the guy who just tried to break out of his hostage situation and ran right past security cameras because he never thinks past the end of his nose. How is he not going to end up in prison within a week?

Oh, and I loved the twists with Elliott and Gretchen. So much better than anything I would have come up with! :)

[Mmmm Donuts]

I think the cops got to the bar, then went inside first to search around. They probably assumed he would be in there ready to give in, since he called them. It did feel like a long sequence, but maybe it really wasn't? I have no idea.

Hopefully by now, everyone who wanted to see the finale has, because I don't want to put spoiler captions. :)

That was a really satisfying end. It tied up everything I can think of right now nicely, and Walt died happy.

I agree with Austruck, what Gilligan did with the Gretchen dispute was genius. Only Walt could have thought this up. I didn't like them much anyways, so I'm glad he punished them.

My favourite scene (tough decision) would probably be when he's talking to Skylar, and she expects him to say "I did it for the family" like he has the entire show, but he says he actually did it for him, which for me was his final acceptance that he wasn't the good hearted, loving father and husband he led himself to believe he was.

Sad to see such an incredible show go, but at least they did in their own terms, just like Walt himself. I expect they'll release a complete box set soon enough, and I'll be eagerly waiting for that.

[TONGO]

Just finished it, and it was completely awesome. I thought Jesse woulda said "Bitch!" one more time though. It was an excellent story, and the last time I was so satisfied with a series was Sopranos.

Cool vid on the intro, but in full...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDFAYRtrYuk

[jiraffejustin]

Too lazy to go through the whole thread but props to whoever put forth the prediction on the way Lydia would go. Good call.

[Mmmm Donuts]

Tongo, that video is fan made. I think I showed it on here a few pages back.

[Mmmm Donuts]

Too lazy to go through the whole thread but props to whoever put forth the prediction on the way Lydia would go. Good call.

I think Yoda was the first to hint that it was for Lydia, and OMEGLE might have been the first to outright say it.

If I'm wrong, please don't put some ricin in my coke!

Interestingly, Lydia suffered the worst death out of anyone in this episode (if my memory is correct).

"If someone swallows a significant amount of ricin, he or she would develop vomiting and diarrhea that may become bloody. Severe dehydration may be the result, followed by low blood pressure. Other signs or symptoms may include hallucinations, seizures, and blood in the urine. Within several days, the person's liver, spleen, and kidneys might stop working, and the person could die."

[McConnaughay]

I guess my question about Jesse isn't really what *career options* would he pursue? But honestly, he's going to have to fly under the radar, like, forever. He has no immunity through Hank or anything, so he's a huge fugitive. And he now has exactly no one to help him do that. Except maybe Badger and Skinny Pete... (and how great was THAT scene? I laughed out loud!)

How does he actually manage that life? This is the guy who just tried to break out of his hostage situation and ran right past security cameras because he never thinks past the end of his nose. How is he not going to end up in prison within a week?

I thought the same thing after watching it, but I suppose that is all for interpretation entirely. I choose to look at it as, after everything that Jesse has been through, he is finally free, and whether he turns himself into the police or goes into hiding, nothing will be worse than having been basically tortured for all of this time.

As for the end, it may not have been the mind-blowing conclusion that I was crossing my fingers for, but it WAS a brilliant way of closing, perhaps, the greatest show of all-time.

[Sedai]

Our group of Breakers all seemed satisfied at the conclusion of the show. There were a couple of moist eyes in the room, so the show clearly delivered as far as the emotional component was concerned.

I do feel like the Nazis went from being magically bullet repellent to magic bullet attractors at the end there, but I guess the show's creators wants to execute the idea cleanly, with just Uncle Jack surviving long enough to deliver a couple more lines.

Otherwise, great stuff, man! I shall miss the show!

[Austruck]

I think Yoda was the first to hint that it was for Lydia, and OMEGLE might have been the first to outright say it.

If I'm wrong, please don't put some ricin in my coke!

Interestingly, Lydia suffered the worst death out of anyone in this episode (if my memory is correct).

"If someone swallows a significant amount of ricin, he or she would develop vomiting and diarrhea that may become bloody. Severe dehydration may be the result, followed by low blood pressure. Other signs or symptoms may include hallucinations, seizures, and blood in the urine. Within several days, the person's liver, spleen, and kidneys might stop working, and the person could die."
Well, I outright predicted it with certainty in post #1002. But I think someone else may have tossed it out there as a possibility before that. :)

[TONGO]

Tongo, that video is fan made. I think I showed it on here a few pages back.

Oh sorry. Fan made? Pretty solid job.

[ezetuw]

Our group of Breakers all seemed satisfied at the conclusion of the show. There were a couple of moist eyes in the room, so the show clearly delivered as far as the emotional component was concerned.

I do feel like the Nazis went from being magically bullet repellent to magic bullet attractors at the end there, but I guess the show's creators wants to execute the idea cleanly, with just Uncle Jack surviving long enough to deliver a couple more lines.

Otherwise, great stuff, man! I shall miss the show!
Agree, that did bother me a bit. All were insta-kills except for the couple important ones. I forgave it before with Gomey dying and Hank surviving in the shootout, but again? Plus, it would've looked totally badass if the were all lying around hurtin, and Walt had to pick up a gun and finish a bunch of them off, of course ending with Uncle Jack. Which was a perfect moment, Uncle Jack's kill. "You won't ever find out where your money is." Bang. Perfect. Walt killed Heisenberg with that shot.

About Jesse, I can imagine Walt explaining the situation to Badger and Skinny Pete. I'm thinking they're expecting him, and he'll be safe.

I wasn't a fan of the song they played at the end, it was waaay to in your face about the "moral" of the show. But at least throw a brother a bone! This is a great show, and that was a great way of wrapping it up. It wasn't hard to know what'd happen, but they kept us guessing for 5 seasons, and mind****ed us to death. It was beautiful.

[ezetuw]

Walt's hair is different in the scene where he picks up the ricin, small nitpick. Also Skyler has snot dripping down her nose in a closeup, and then it's gone. It's nothing really but it caught my eye.

I loved Bryan Cranston in this last episode. He's so defeated.

Also, the Jesse/Walt thing went as I expected. The thing couldn't be fixed, but it was behind them. Walt obviously cared about Jesse, always, even when he treated him like an idiot and a burden. But Jesse... Jesse was so let down by him. Wonder what he'll think when he remembers Walt years in the future.

[HandyApe]

That was some ending.

I really wanna rewatch the show now :p

[Mmmm Donuts]

Well, I outright predicted it with certainty in post #1002. But I think someone else may have tossed it out there as a possibility before that. :)

My bad Austruck. It was really a half asleep search of the earliest post. I don't really remember posting anything last night. :shrug: :dizzy:

The only thing I remember was the episode itself.

[Mmmm Donuts]

I also love how Walt set up the shootout. It was so classy, and fit the character perfectly.

Throughout the week, we were thinking back to Scarface, and imagining that kind of route. But honestly, Tony doesn't hold a candle to Heisenberg. Walt is a genius, while Tony is merely a drug dealer to shot his way to the top.

[Lucas]

Breaking Bad just sealed itself as the greatest TV show of all-time. The finale was a 10/10.It was funny,sad,tragic,epic,dark,unexpected and just perfect. Perfect.

[7thson]

If I was to be honest I have to say that I am disappointed. Not a lot - for the most part things turned out pretty much as I thought they would. I think that is the problem I have. Everything sealed up too fine, I think the keys falling into Walt's lap when he prayed, told me the rest of the story before it happened.

Who was NOT routing for Walt to get his keys back off the pool table? (no one)

Who knew that Walt was going to tackle Jessie when it was time? (everyone)

Who knew that Meth daemon was going to die at the hands of Jessie? (most)

It was all wrapped in a perfectly created Breaking Bad fan bow -

I am glad that in the end Walt gave a **** about the money -- I loved that part.

Overall a 9/10 series for me... so not complaining here.

[Brother Blue]

Wasn't expecting to tear up at the end. But it got me.

[Austruck]

7thson, I agree that the key thing in the visor was a bit convenient... but I think the writers kinda let us know they realized that by having Walt first go through a bunch of gyrations trying to hotwire the thing on his own in the cold.

Only THEN does he think to check for a set of keys in the visor. Frankly, though, a mechanic we used to use always put our keys there after he was done with our car, and it's a fairly common practice in a lot of situations. Kinda like the ol' trick of hiding a spare house key in the mailbox or under a rock or flower pot just outside the door... obvious, but common.

As for tackling Jesse, I wasn't clear on that until Walt and Jesse eyed each other in that room. I'm convinced (having watched the finale three times so far) that Walt was really genuinely angry that Jesse was cooking again and really thought he had partnered somehow with Uncle Jack and Todd. Or, he at least suspected it and wanted to test the waters first.

I think that's precisely why he yelled to Jack about Jesse -- to get them to bring Jesse into the room too... if only to have them all die in a blaze of gunfire. If he had seen that Jesse was well-fed, well-groomed, and obviously a partner of some sort, rather than a prisoner, I have no doubt he would have let Jesse have it along with everyone else, perhaps even himself.

But when he saw Jesse looking like the caged animal he obviously had become, and he saw that hunted look in his eyes (which was incredibly moving, by the way), he knew he had to get him out of there. It was all water under the bridge by then. Time to redeem himself.

And so he tackles Jesse and gets them both out of the line of fire. I think it was a decision he made only after he saw Jesse face to face. Before then, I think the jury was still out on whether Walt would include Jesse in the gunfire.

Also, I found it astounding that that gun ripped through cement walls and conveniently killed so many of them so cleanly too. I would have expected more of them writhing around with flesh wounds.

And who didn't love the guy dead in the massage chair, still undulating up and down? :D

[7thson]

Yeah, the dead guy still "breathing"? I think it was meant to remonstrate "us" the viewers.

I was intrigued how the last time we saw Marie - there was no purple - no Hank, no enjoyment, no fluffy purple rug she could rely on .

Marie really was a bitch - wish Jessie had met her to tell her so. ;^)

[Sedai]

"Feelin a little under the weather, Lydia? Good bye, Lydia."

Love it!

[7thson]

"Feelin a little under the weather, Lydia? Good bye, Lydia."

Love it!


Yeah that was great - even though it was so obvious, it was great.

[Gabrielle947]

Tons of spoilers below!

Loved the beginning with Gretchen and Elliot.I noticed that Walt turned even crazier,I guess,losing family and being isolated does its job.
Overall,a decent finale but not extremely great,expected it to be more sentimental maybe,Walt's death was not that impressive,nazi killing was a bit unrealistic.Lydia's death was quite logic and it was such a moment full of hate when Jesse killed Meth Damon.
I'd say that I am satisfied but not overly impressed.

[7thson]

I'd say that I am satisfied but not overly impressed.

This is my feeling - but being satisfied is maybe more difficult than being impressed. That is how I take it all.

Okay fine - something is missing,

Jessie is a "loose end"

sigh

[OMEGA5]

Just beautiful. I am so thoroughly satisfied with that ending. Great job Gilligan!

I do believe the final body count was 8(extra man at Uncle jack's, and not Jesse as I had thought). I loved every minute of that finale :)

[Mmmm Donuts]

I don't know if you can call Jesse a loose end, really. Obviously, his life will still be hard, at least for few months, but it's better than being chained up in a basement. He will most likely go on to do some carpentry for a living, as others here have suggested.

Walter let him go, the way a boss would let an employee go, who was ready to move on to bigger things. I'm fine with Jesse driving off into the night. I have no lingering thoughts on his character.

[7thson]

The ending was so predictable, everything just fell into place. Maybe it is just me - but does Jessie need more - ? He needs more.

[Austruck]

I still haven't figured out what happens to Jesse. He's on the lam now -- a fugitive, out on bail, no money, no one to help him. How long will he have that freedom before he's behind bars?

Also, why does everyone think Marie is such a bitch? When a man calls it like it is, he's honest and forthright. When a woman does, she's a bitch. Please. Get real.

I think we are meant to see her last "wardrobe" (white) to be a sign of hope. She's sounding like her old self -- logical, thinking ahead, thinking like Hank in some ways -- and we see she's actually doing better than Skyler emotionally. Then again, she has nothing but good memories of her husband and she's not being hounded by the DEA. She's a hero's widow.

I've never understood the bitch thing with either of these women. I think some of you folks have a rather large double-standard when it comes to qualities exhibited by men versus women in this show.

I'm not really a feminist (ask Yoda!), but I see this as a bit unfair.

And I agree with you, 7thson, that it's harder to satisfy a large TV audience than it is to impress them. It would have been the easy way out to have stuff all blowin' up and fireballs comin' outta the clubhouse. Yeah, baby, YEAH!

Honestly, I think BB took cues from other shows who wrapped up their finales by letting the viewers "interpret" the endings any way they want. To me, that's always felt like a cop-out. YOU WRITERS are the ones telling US a story, not the other way around. So, TELL it and FINISH it.

I think Gilligan and crew did that splendidly. And, as I predicted, we needed to leave our precious storyworld with the bad guys GONE so we could leave in peace. Jesse was never a huge menace to society in our view, so he could live. The ones who needed to die in order for the others to live peacefully are gone. End of story.

Great job, Gilligan!

[Gabrielle947]

I hope you remember what the box flashback is about.. It was mentioned earlier in the series. :) I don't think it refers to Jesse becoming a carpenter.

[Sedai]

^^^^ Please elaborate! :)

I recall something about Jessie in shop class, but I can't recall any details other than that. :-/

[Gabrielle947]

I really can't say which season it was but there was a scene where Jesse was talking about school times.Technology(or whatever the subject is called) teacher asked students to make a box.So Jesse made a lame box,he did it just to do it and when he brought it to his teacher,he asked him: well,can't you do any better? Jesse was moved by those words,so he started again and he made a new box so carefully,he wasted lots hours for that box until it was perfectly smooth.He gave it to his mom.

I am pretty sure that flashback referred to that new box. :)

[Gabrielle947]

Found the scene,it's a bit different than I just told :D But yeah,now I watched it and it does refer that Jesse was interested in a way in carpentry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiCTG2x8RdU

[Sedai]

Oh right, right...but wait, didn't he say that he didn't give it to his Mom, and instead bought drugs with it? Or maybe he decided to keep his drugs in it and not give the gift?

So yeah, I said I am not re-watching the series, but I am going to re-watch the series. :D

[ezetuw]

I've never understood the bitch thing with either of these women.
With Skyler, I honestly don't get it either. Every reaction she has is the most logically and emotionally sound reaction ever. Seriously, I loved her character because of how realistically she faces the situation. I sort of love her when she hates Walt, and also that she secretly still loves him.

Now, Marie's another story. I mean towards the end here, she's OK. But when there was no real drama involved with her, she was one annoying bitch, definitely. Snobby, self-righteous, possessive, spoiled. Just hated her. After Hank got shot, she got better though.
I hope you remember what the box flashback is about.. It was mentioned earlier in the series. :) I don't think it refers to Jesse becoming a carpenter.
Exactly, he talked about it on the addict meetings.

[Gabrielle947]

Oh right, right...but wait, didn't he say that he didn't give it to his Mom, and instead bought drugs with it?
yep yep my mistake.I remembered that because I rewatched the series before 5B season.Still couldn't remember all the details. :D

[Austruck]

Ha ha ha! I don't know how to embed this the way they do in the Game of Thrones thread, so here's the link...

If the Breaking Bad finale were entirely on Facebook:

http://happyplace.someecards.com/26585/if-breaking-bad-took-place-entirely-on-facebook-series-finale

[earlsmoviepicks]

Finally, a REAL ending! We knew what had to happen, Gilligan knew we knew, and gave a us a proper finale tied up in a nice tight package. Not that everything has to end that way, but this show absolutely did! Well done.

I'm still not giving up on Marie and Saul as a couple though... :D:D

[TONGO]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beM28FLdAzk

[n3wt]

Amazing finale to what is an amazing show.

[Lucas]

The feeling I had after watching the finale can't be put into words. I couldn't sleep that night due to how great it was. Satisfying,dark,beautiful,epic. Bravo Vince

[Gabrielle947]

That's an interesting opinion:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0903747/board/flat/220324141?p=1

[Mmmm Donuts]

Come on Gabrielle, don't share that! Reading it makes me want to punch a wall.

[Brodinski]

It's incredible that I actually didn't like this show at all during its first season and struggled to make it to mid-season 2 before getting hooked.

I think one thing that hasn't been mentioned throughout this thread is the way in which Breaking Bad stands out from other drama series. It works towards a certain point and does so over the course of its life span. Ever since season 1, even though it might not've been intended back then, Gilligan has made Walt turn into something worse and worse, going off the rails and heavily foreshadowing that his life won't end in a pretty way. All throughout, there is little or no reset and the start of each season.

You think about it, even the most revered series like Deadwood, The Wire, Sopranos, Oz, Luther, Mad Men, etc, hit the reset button at the end of each season after building dramatic crescendo for the final episode(s). There is usually no clear-cut next point they will work towards. That's not a knock on them, because lots of those series had uncertain futures and it's totally understandable that the creators wanna have nicely wrapped-up seasons so as not to leave viewers totally hanging (i.e. like Carnivale did).

In that sense, Breaking Bad is - to my knowledge - unique. Great show, b!tch.

[Mmmm Donuts]

These are too good. I'm just going to keep posting...

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[Yoda]

Sorry, normally I'd have a bunch of thoughts and reactions up but it's been a crazy couple of days. Tomorrow! :)

[Mmmm Donuts]

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[Mmmm Donuts]

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[Mmmm Donuts]

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[Lucas]

That's an interesting opinion:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0903747/board/flat/220324141?p=1

I don't really agree with that. Walt ended up dying and his family hates him, one of his family members is in the grave. He is to forever be remembered as a monstrous drug lord,and he dies knowing very well all the horrible atrocities and deaths he caused. I think the ending is perfect as It could have been to be perfectly honest. Simultaneously happy(Jesse surviving,death of all the antagonists,family hopefully getting the money) but sad as well as Walt dies a monster in the eyes of the world. Just my 2 cents.

[Mmmm Donuts]

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[Lucas]

Those Breaking Bad comics are amazing. Love em'.

[Mmmm Donuts]

Those Breaking Bad comics are amazing. Love em'.

Yep. Whoever came up with is awesome.

My TV listings lists Breaking Bad as a "comedy-drama". Is that even appropriate? Sure, there are funny parts, but geez...

[Austruck]

Actually, a lot of the show was hilarious. Call it black comedy, but there were plenty of laughs over the years. Sure, the last season was a lot darker, but even that had its moments. Sometimes just their choice of background music made things funny -- like Walt rolling that barrel of money through the desert till he finds the guy with the truck. I forget the name of the song, but it was meant to be strangely humorous.

Plus, how can you forget Saul and his punchlines? And Jesse and his idiotic comments (especially early on)? Cow house? Really?

The movie "Fargo" has a similar feel to it: dark, black comedy. Almost morbid. The Sopranos did the same thing. Tony was constantly taking phrases from Dr. Melfi and restating them later but getting them wrong. And Paulie was a constant source of laughs.

ANYWAY ... I don't mind the comedy-drama designation, though I'm not sure I'd weigh those elements as 50/50.

[Mmmm Donuts]

Good point. Black comedy would be an accurate description of the show.

[TONGO]

Final episode vague spoilers warning

http://s3.amazonaws.com/dk-production/images/51054/large/BB3.jpg?1380523082

My favorite scene for me in finale was when he finally bared his soul to Skylar, and it looked like he was lighter after saying it. It was the best dialogue he delivered in the series. He threatened, coerced, and fought in the final episode, but he never went acted like Heisenberg as it was like he didnt need the campy persona to perform anymore.

Wonder if Gyllenhal would be inspired to do a Jesse Pinkman spinoff. I guess it'd be called "Going Good" :laugh: I'd give it a try as Aaron Paul would be a competent lead.

http://i2.cdnds.net/13/35/618x411/ustv-breaking-bad-season-1-pictures-2.jpg

Ive waited for this a long time. Ive seen every episode of Breaking Bad - once. Now Im gonna go thru and watch them from 1st episode of 1st season on, shoot for an episode a day. I think more songs will be noticed that I did the first go around, and some scenes as I was laughing hard or wincing the first viewing.

[Austruck]

Tongo, I think what you will notice first is just how FAST the show jumps into the fray of things. I had forgotten just how much sh*t got real right in the first few episodes.

See, now I gotta fire up the ol' Netflix and watch 'em again myself. :)

[Lucas]

I thought there were a few hilarious moments last episode, notably when we see Badger and Skinny Pete one last time and when Kenny was killed yet his body is still in that massaging chair lol. It's a very dark show, but there's definitely elements of black comedy in there no doubt about it.

[Sedai]

The Sopranos did the same thing. Tony was constantly taking phrases from Dr. Melfi and restating them later but getting them wrong. And Paulie was a constant source of laughs.



"Hey Tone... my ****in feet are freezin...the Russkies...the took my ****in shoes, Tony! Now I am out in the forest, and I can't feel my toes... We gotta get these russkies, Tone!"

[earlsmoviepicks]

Classic Sopranos episode!

[Brodinski]

"Hey Tone... my ****in feet are freezin...the Russkies...the took my ****in shoes, Tony! Now I am out in the forest, and I can't feel my toes... We gotta get these russkies, Tone!"

Paulie was just about only there for comic relief. Guy was hilarious.

Chris: "You remember Princess Diana? You think the royal family put out a hit on her?"
Paulie:"Last time I'm taking a limo to Paris"
Chris: "Like you ever been to Paris, Paulie"
Paulie: "I went over there for a blowjob... your mom was working a bon-bon stand at the Eiffel tower.

Or when he talked about food: "Buffalo muzarell", "gabbagoal", "provaloan".

[Austruck]

"Pine Barrens" is my favorite Sopranos episode. I still laugh when I see ketchup packets. :)

[Mmmm Donuts]

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[McConnaughay]

^ The first two made me laugh out loud!

[ezetuw]

Yep. Whoever came up with is awesome.

My TV listings lists Breaking Bad as a "comedy-drama". Is that even appropriate? Sure, there are funny parts, but geez...
Actually, a lot of the show was hilarious. Call it black comedy, but there were plenty of laughs over the years. Sure, the last season was a lot darker, but even that had its moments. Sometimes just their choice of background music made things funny -- like Walt rolling that barrel of money through the desert till he finds the guy with the truck. I forget the name of the song, but it was meant to be strangely humorous.

Plus, how can you forget Saul and his punchlines? And Jesse and his idiotic comments (especially early on)? Cow house? Really?

The movie "Fargo" has a similar feel to it: dark, black comedy. Almost morbid. The Sopranos did the same thing. Tony was constantly taking phrases from Dr. Melfi and restating them later but getting them wrong. And Paulie was a constant source of laughs.

ANYWAY ... I don't mind the comedy-drama designation, though I'm not sure I'd weigh those elements as 50/50.
The show grew consistently darker with each season, but it was always hilarious. Until... this last bunch we just got. After Hank figured everything out, **** got really real, so the comedy diminished and got really subtle, as opposed to the many laugh-out-loud stuff in the rest of the show. But the show was always hilarious. That's why it was so easy for that dude to make those "Breaking Bad as a sitcom" things on youtube. Because it really is that funny. That's one of the reasons I love the show. It has an amazing balance between dark comedy, light comedy (Walt being pathetic and lame, in the best of ways) and serious business, tension and ****. Remember The Fly episode. Nothing happens in it, they're just locked in there, trying to catch a fly like idiots. Sounds like a dumb premise, and it is, and it's hilarious. But there are all these unsaid things underneath, and along with hilarious, it's really tense.
Ive waited for this a long time. Ive seen every episode of Breaking Bad - once. Now Im gonna go thru and watch them from 1st episode of 1st season on, shoot for an episode a day. I think more songs will be noticed that I did the first go around, and some scenes as I was laughing hard or wincing the first viewing.
lol you wanted it to end for such a long time?

Yeah I watched every season only once, except for the first one, which I watched twice. And yup, I'm watching the whole thing again, but not right now. Gotta leave it finish dying before reviving it.

[Lucas]

Fly is a great episode. I get that people don't like it, but i thought it was so odd and full of symbolism that i can't help but to love it.

[McConnaughay]

I thought the show got more hilarious towards the end because of Walter's subtle craziness. "Jesse is mad at me for something that he thinks I did," Walt stops for a second. "I did do it." Or "Do you really want to live in a world without Coca Cola?", or just a lot of the normal things that he did, in retrospect of his insanity, made me really laugh. I still think the darkest and yet funniest scene is after the boy dies and Walt sends Jesse home, and Jesse overhears Walt whistling without a care in the world. Or when Walt finds out about Skylar's affair and tries to throw a plant at the glass-window, but it's too heavy, and so he drags it. Then Skylar comes out and he says, "We're talking."

There's so many stupidly hilarious moments. (****, and that one stoner's Star Trek fan-fiction?)

[Austruck]

Badger's fan fiction scenario is hilarious.

"You've got a screenplay?"
"Yeah, I just gotta write it, is all."

Then he launches into this convoluted plot where Chekov's guts end up teleported outside his body or something. Omigosh, I love Badger. It was so great to see him and Skinny Pete in the finale.

[Mmmm Donuts]

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[Austruck]

Love the fly swatter on Batwalt's belt ... LOL!

[Mmmm Donuts]

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[Frightened Inmate No. 2]

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these are so great.
http://breaking-development.tumblr.com/

[ezetuw]

Fly is a great episode. I get that people don't like it, but i thought it was so odd and full of symbolism that i can't help but to love it.
Do people really dislike it? They'r idiots. Unless there's one of those people here lol! Joke. But you ARE wrong.

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Jesus! And four lettered words are censored. That's creepy. Love it!

[Sedai]

They'r idiots.

Do I even need to...

Yeah...

[TONGO]

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[TONGO]

I just found out theres gonna be a Breaking Bad spinoff called "Better Call Saul" :):):)

http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/3/4790580/breaking-bad-spinoff-better-call-saul-is-likely-to-be-more-dark-than

http://images.tvrage.com/news/amc-greenlights-breaking-bad-spin-off.jpg

[Lucas]

I'm not really sure a spin-off is needed tbh. I think it's unnecessary.

[TONGO]

I think it'll be awesome if they truly have a story to tell, like they did with Breaking Bad. Hopefully Aaron Paul will be brought in after he's done with that donkey crap Need For speed flick.

[Yoda]

I think it's pretty clear this isn't a spin-off in any meaningful sense. I think it has the potential to be a good, amusing, entertaining show...but only if the people watching it go into it with the understanding that it isn't going to be anything like Breaking Bad.

[earlsmoviepicks]

I'm hoping Gilligan and crew have a heavy hand in this

[ezetuw]

Do I even need to...

Yeah...
That was um... on purpose... obviously...

[TONGO]

Vince Gilligan shared 5 alternate endings to the series to Time magazine......

http://entertainment.time.com/2013/10/01/5-alternate-breaking-bad-endings/

[Mmmm Donuts]

The last 2 are pretty interesting. I think the only thing keeping Skylar going now are her children. The last one fits with the whole Krazy 8 situation, but it would mean losing Jesse, which sucks. I know that they were considering killing him off very early, really glad they didn't.

I was wondering if Walt Jr. was going to get hurt in some way, which would be a fitting punishment for Heisenberg. But I'm happy with the ending they went with. Walter White came back...

[TONGO]

Watching second episode of season one. Amazing how amateurish Walt & Jessie were when they started to where they ended up. Havent got to the scene yet where theyre barely able to pick up the barrel, not realizing they should just roll it. This is when Jessie's high on crystal dragging a dead body from the RV to his house in broad daylight. :laugh: I think it was these solo scenes Aaron Paul did that made Gilligan and the writers want to keep him.

[TONGO]

SPOILER ALERT 3rd episode season 1

______________

Whoever played Krazy 8 did a fantastic job (IMDb'd his names Max Arciniega). Got to the scene where Walts gonna free Krazy 8, and realizes the missing piece of the plate. Absolute panic on Walts part as he knows he'll have to now kill Krazy. He's saying "Why are you doing this?! Why are you doing this?!" out loud about Krazy or to himself, I dont know. When hes about to put the key to the lock, and sees Krazy reaching in his pants for the piece of plate, a tear runs down Walts face.

Bryan Cranston deserved his emmy. Im enjoying it as much the second time thru as I did the first.

[Yoda]

www.brandingbad.com

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[Guaporense]

Just finished watching Breaking Bad. A great series with a great ending, will probably be staying among my top 10 favorite TV series for decades. A genuine masterpiece.

[Mmmm Donuts]

Glad to hear it. Can't wait to see what creator Gilligan will do next!

[Guaporense]

You think about it, even the most revered series like Deadwood, The Wire, Sopranos, Oz, Luther, Mad Men, etc, hit the reset button at the end of each season after building dramatic crescendo for the final episode(s). There is usually no clear-cut next point they will work towards. That's not a knock on them, because lots of those series had uncertain futures and it's totally understandable that the creators wanna have nicely wrapped-up seasons so as not to leave viewers totally hanging (i.e. like Carnivale did).

In that sense, Breaking Bad is - to my knowledge - unique. Great show, b!tch.

If you restrict yourself to English speaking series you still have Babylon 5, it's first four seasons were a continuous buildup up to an ending.* It's nice that Breaking Bad cites Babylon 5 at episode 13 of the last season.

Also, anime series have been doing continuous storytelling since the 1970's. LOGH, for instance, had 110 episodes done between 1988 and 1997 spanning 7 novels and never hitting "reset". Anyway, many examples of continuous storytelling in series jump to my head right now.

Of course, if you restrict yourself to English speaking TV series done since the year 2000, for instance, well, Battlestar Galactica also had a continuous story without resetting in each season. Thought the quality of the writing declined greatly as the show went on the whole plot build up to the ending.

Overall, it's not very hard to find TV series that work like novels. Most great ones are like that and Breaking Bad is not exception.

*Though season 5 was filler (that's because the producers didn't know if the show would have lasted 4 or 5 seasons and the writer decided to not let his story go to waste and he ended the main plot in season 4 but the show continued for season 5 and the writer had only marginal subplots to work there.

[Frightened Inmate No. 2]

Glad to hear it. Can't wait to see what creator Gilligan will do next!

http://www.avclub.com/articles/vince-gilligan-follows-up-breaking-bad-with-a-dete,103380/

[Mmmm Donuts]

Sounds interesting. I've never been into detective shows, but I'll give it a try when it premieres.

[earlsmoviepicks]

For those who want a hysterical teutonic take on BB, check out this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUrM4FWjwX0&list=PL0wk4iBSuQtlNbGzgNbs9mZ4zQ4S0s1fC

[Lucas]

Sounds interesting. I've never been into detective shows, but I'll give it a try when it premieres.

My exact thoughts. It could potentially be good.

[TONGO]

At the second to last episode of season 1, and the guy that played Tuco did a solid job. Tuco couldve been an interesting even longer term character than what he was. Just when he got high people would immediately die.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjqPWDuoQfw

[Austruck]

This is an interesting little tidbit. Does Huffington Post mean it's fairly reliable?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/14/anthony-hopkins-breaking-bad-letter_n_4098441.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009

[Mmmm Donuts]

If it's real, that's really quite the praise. Sir Anthony Hopkins is epic, and I love to hear actors/actresses praising each other's work. Of course, Cranston and co. fully deserve it.

[Frightened Inmate No. 2]

that's pretty awesome, assuming its real. anthony hopkins seems pretty awesome, and bryan cranston is basically the best dude.

[Austruck]

Snopes doesn't have a story either way. And it's Huffington Post, not, like Joe's Little Web Site, so I'm leaning toward authenticity.

What I can't stop picturing now, though, is Sir Anthony Hopkins binge-watching Breaking Bad episodes on, like, Netflix, eating Cheetos and drinking beer in his pajama pants....

[gandalf26]

Wow just finished the whole lot. Prob took me 3 weeks to watch it all.

Feel like I'm late to the party but what a show.

Now I can get my life/sleep back.

[PierFaid]

This is it just the best series I've ever seen. I love how absolutely
nothing is left randomly, all that you watch is credible and smart, the
actors play nearly perfectly and the plot is catchy as hell, you just
can't watch just one a row. The duet between Bryan Cranston and Aaron
Paul is breathless, speechless. Long story short, a must seen !

[gandalf26]

Always felt a little frustrated especially in later seasons that Jesse was kept alive when there seemed like loads of times that the logical thing t happen would be someone getting rid of the liability that he was. I mean Walt turns into a monster but still has this loyalty to Jesse who has been nothing but a liability the whole run.

Funniest moment was pepper spray, not when Walt gets sprayed but later when Flynn tells Skylar that Walt looked like he had been crying. I literally pissed myself laughing.

The end of series 4 was terrific,"I won".

Saddest moment for me was the death of Mike. Really felt like he didn't deserve that. Also when Walt asks to see Holly one last time a the end, nearly had me tearing up.

The genius of the show was that by the end Walt really has gone "Bad" and you no longer really like Walt anymore like you generally would an antihero.

The ending was a little too neat. Everything slotted neatly into place for Walt and in the end there was really no consequence for him after all he had done. The Shield is a really good ending, Vic Mackey loses everything.

[Upton]

Agree in theory that the ending was too perfect but man I loooooved how much of a crowd pleaser that last episode was. Totally in line with a show that first and foremost was all about being hyper entertaining and never tried to moralize or bother to worry about staying too tethered to reality. Like you said, Jesse/Walt would've gotten killed in real life so many times but why would the show have killed off Jesse when it had such a good thing going?

Along the same lines - Whether it was Vince Gilligan's intention or not, I personally never stopped liking or rooting for Walter White. Hard to turn against a protagonist you've invested that many years of being so compelled by and who remained interesting and surprising for the entirety of the show's run. And for a show with so many good actors Cranston/Walt was easily the standout there, too. Never got dull during a scene he was in

[Austruck]

If by "rooting for him," you mean you never stopped hoping he'd come to his senses, then I think I was rooting for him too. I knew the story arc would have had to take a few crazy leaps to get Walt back to where he started, but what I learned through the show was that Walt had that sort of bad juju in him all along.

And perhaps that was the main point: that anyone, given the right/wrong circumstances, is capable of just about anything. I think the original Walt reminded us too much of real people we either know or are, and to see where he ended up was a bit sobering.

But either way, the show was always fun to watch, never really had a completely "down" season like so many other, otherwise good shows. Rewatching episodes back to back gave me a new appreciation of just how consistent this show was over the years.

And I agree: Any scene with Cranston in it was worth watching.

[earlsmoviepicks]

Good point about anyone being capable of this. With so many incidences of "normal" folks snapping and doing horrendous things these days, it's like we all could be one snap away from being in his position, so we empathize.

When Dianne Sawyer asked Charles Manson if he's crazy, he said, "You know, a long time ago being crazy meant something. Nowadays everybody's crazy."

[Upton]

Some people are crazier than others, imo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XREnvJRkif0

[earlsmoviepicks]

In case someone needed subtitles for this:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XREnvJRkif0[/QUOTE]

[Lucas]

Some people are crazier than others, imo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XREnvJRkif0

Lol Wut

[Mmmm Donuts]

How did Manson enter this thread?

[earlsmoviepicks]

He didn't enter this thread. He had 4 hippy girls enter this thread for him.

[TONGO]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kZivVxB3vU

[Mmmm Donuts]

'Breaking Bad' creator: Jesse probably got caught because he forgot this

http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/11/26/breaking-bad-creator-jesse/

[Daniel M]

The genius of the show was that by the end Walt really has gone "Bad" and you no longer really like Walt anymore like you generally would an antihero.

The ending was a little too neat. Everything slotted neatly into place for Walt and in the end there was really no consequence for him after all he had done.

If by "rooting for him," you mean you never stopped hoping he'd come to his senses, then I think I was rooting for him too. I knew the story arc would have had to take a few crazy leaps to get Walt back to where he started, but what I learned through the show was that Walt had that sort of bad juju in him all along.

Am I the only one who was still supporting Walt and hoping he got away with everything?

[Frightened Inmate No. 2]

yes

[Frightened Inmate No. 2]

this needs more views
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyBiPANvm5s

[meatwadsprite]

I'm rewatching the show, but I think they ended it perfectly with season 4.
Season 5 was an abomination.

[Daniel M]

Season 5 was an abomination.

http://i.perezhilton.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/walter-white-crawl-space-laughing.gif

[TONGO]

I'm rewatching the show, but I think they ended it perfectly with season 4.
Season 5 was an abomination.

http://s3.cliffpro.com/wp-content/uploads/point-and-laugh.jpg

http://images.lazygamer.co.za/2010/01/facepalm.jpg

[Lucas]

Season 5 is arguably the best season, I think it was a perfect closure to the series. Besides Ozymandias is one of the greatest TV episodes ever. In my opinion its The best, I have never seen an episode of TV quite like that. Not on The Wire, The Sopranos, nor Mad Men. It was on a whole nother' planet of greatness.

[Daniel M]

In my opinion, the episode before Ozymandias, To'hajiilee, is better. And I think maybe Dead Freight is too (the one with the train). Although an argument can be made for any season five episode really.

[meatwadsprite]

I did forget there were some really great moments in season 5 (the stuff you guys mentioned), but I felt the season as a whole had a lot throwaway episodes and the overall story was just repetitive and dismal. It felt so unsure of itself and where it was going, like the writers would just come up with twists for the sake of it.

I liked Gilligan's concept to make Walt more of a bad guy as the series progressed and with season 5 they completely cowered away from that.

[Optimus]

Wow, it seems this show is very popular on here. My friends have been raving about Breaking Bad for some time now, so I decided to buy series 1 from amazon. I've watched 3 episodes so far and my feelings are Meh. Everyone keeps telling me it gets better and to keep watching into series 2, is this the case?.

[MovieMeditation]

Wow, it seems this show is very popular on here. My friends have been raving about Breaking Bad for some time now, so I decided to buy series 1 from amazon. I've watched 3 episodes so far and my feelings are Meh. Everyone keeps telling me it gets better and to keep watching into series 2, is this the case?.
First off you have to stop thinking about all the praise. I wasn't a huge fan of the first season and some of the second because I expected pure greatness and it clouded my mind. But still when season 4 and 5 came I knew what people were talking about, and now I'm currently re-watching the whole series and there's A LOT of things I didn't catch the first time around, a lot of fun details and small conversations.

But try to just watch it, and just focus on the episode you are currently watching and not think about what it is your friend rave about etc. :)

[Optimus]

Well decided to have another good at Breaking Bad and over the past few nights I've gotten to series 3. Wow, seriously. Ime addicted. Such a fantastic show.

[The Sci-Fi Slob]

Well decided to have another good at Breaking Bad and over the past few nights I've gotten to series 3. Wow, seriously. Ime addicted. Such a fantastic show.http://i.imgur.com/ilHmHW7.jpg

[Derek Vinyard]

The best TV-Show of all-time indeed.

[Optimus]

It just seems to be getting better and better.

[Derek Vinyard]

It just seems to be getting better and better.

Season 5 is just perfection both Bryan Cranston and Aaron Paul are brilliant

[NatashaR]

Well decided to have another good at Breaking Bad and over the past few nights I've gotten to series 3. Wow, seriously. Ime addicted. Such a fantastic show.

Good decision :) It's one of the best shows... the only downside is that it doesn't really have any likable characters, except Jesse maybe, and Skyler is one of the characters I hate most out of all TV shows I've seen so far.

[Optimus]

At the moment my favourite character is Hank. He brings abit of humour to the show and ime interested to see where his characters goes.

[Optimus]

As I approach the midway point of series 5 I thought I'd write a little something about how I feel about the show so far. If ime totally honest I think the show is a little overrated. Don't get me wrong I am enjoying the show, but the hype and praise the show receives it a little OTT in my eyes. Everyone one kept telling me that the show gets better and better each series, and that series 5 is the best, which I don't think is the case. I loved series 3 and 4. I think series 1 and 2 built up some great story lines and some great characters that really peak at series 4. But the problem I started to feel midway through series 4 was that most characters become very tired some. They become quite boring. And the characters I did enjoy the most ( Mike and Gus) are killed off. In my personal opinion series 5 is by far the weakest of Breaking Bad just due to the fact there's not one single character I now like. I feel that's it's hard to like any character and that there's not one interesting one left that I remotely care about. It's a great show as a whole but I think it peaked at series 4 and I don't get how people enjoyed series 5.

[90sAce]

Great show indeed - definitely was one of my favorites

[cricket]

Just watched the first 2 episodes of season 3. As much as I loved the first 2 seasons, it feels like it's getting to a whole new level. I'm spellbound.

[TONGO]

Just watched the first 2 episodes of season 3. As much as I loved the first 2 seasons, it feels like it's getting to a whole new level. I'm spellbound.


Ooooh yeah. Youre where the show hits its prime. Enjoy :)

[cricket]

Ooooh yeah. Youre where the show hits its prime. Enjoy :)

Just finished episode 3. I was very sympathetic towards Skylar up until this point, but she just let me down, although it was great for drama. Back at it tomorrow night.

[doubledenim]

Skylar is the most-hated character in my tv viewing history. Major B that one is.

[Yoda]

Just watched the first 2 episodes of season 3. As much as I loved the first 2 seasons, it feels like it's getting to a whole new level. I'm spellbound.

Totally. It's pretty tremendous throughout, but season 3 is where it reaches new heights. And it pretty much stays that good the rest of the way.

[Swan]

Totally. It's pretty tremendous throughout, but season 3 is where it reaches new heights. And it pretty much stays that good the rest of the way.

I disagree - it gets even better.

[Yoda]

Oh yeah. What I mean is, the new level it hits there is maintained (or improved on) the rest of the way. It doesn't turn out to be a spike.

The last four episodes of season four are, in my opinion, the best stretch of the entire series. Though there's a 2-3 episode period in season 3 that comes close.

[Camo]

I disagree - it gets even better.

Think Season 3 is my favourite actually. I do think it stays a similar quality from 3 on so it isn't much of a difference for me.

[earlsmoviepicks]

When you're done, Better Call Saul should be next on your list

[Dani8]

Wow I've got some reading to do. Great thread!!! I miss Heisenberg and Jesse.

[Dani8]

Skylar is the most-hated character in my tv viewing history. Major B that one is.

Skylar was the most hated female character I've ever seen in a fandom (apart from maybe Lori and Andrea in TWD). I was one of maybe 5 people who liked her, but then, I liked all the characters in that show. Atleast she wasnt like - I cant even remember her name - the blonde bubble head wife in Tyrant.

[Dani8]

If by "rooting for him," you mean you never stopped hoping he'd come to his senses, then I think I was rooting for him too. I knew the story arc would have had to take a few crazy leaps to get Walt back to where he started, but what I learned through the show was that Walt had that sort of bad juju in him all along.

And perhaps that was the main point: that anyone, given the right/wrong circumstances, is capable of just about anything. I think the original Walt reminded us too much of real people we either know or are, and to see where he ended up was a bit sobering.

But either way, the show was always fun to watch, never really had a completely "down" season like so many other, otherwise good shows. Rewatching episodes back to back gave me a new appreciation of just how consistent this show was over the years.

And I agree: Any scene with Cranston in it was worth watching.

I'm going through this thread backwards after Yoda linked me to it. Fun trip down memory lane.

I agree, Aus. The bad was always there inside Walt but Skyler kept it under lock and key. Then it broke out and reached it's full potential. I miss the high octane stress of that show. One friend said he couldnt even discuss it during the week because he thought he was going to have a heart attack LOL.

[Austruck]

Ha! Yes, I remember watching the episodes as they aired and then discussing them with various folks (hubby, Yoda, etc.). Some of those episodes -- especially the last half of the last season -- were SO intense I could barely watch them out of fear.

Oh my. I gotta rewatch this series... again. LOL

[Austruck]

Skylar was the most hated female character I've ever seen in a fandom (apart from maybe Lori and Andrea in TWD). I was one of maybe 5 people who liked her, but then, I liked all the characters in that show. Atleast she wasnt like - I cant even remember her name - the blonde bubble head wife in Tyrant.

I liked her, too. I thought she behaved mostly the way any mother would upon finding out what her husband was up to. (The affair was a bad idea, but I'm talking mostly about her interactions with Walt once she was in on his activities.) And I really empathized with her plight when she became the "bad guy" to Walt Junior during their separation. She couldn't defend herself, given what she knew, and Walt benefited.

Frankly, I think that would make anybody bitchy. :D

[Dani8]

Ha! Yes, I remember watching the episodes as they aired and then discussing them with various folks (hubby, Yoda, etc.). Some of those episodes -- especially the last half of the last season -- were SO intense I could barely watch them out of fear.

Oh my. I gotta rewatch this series... again. LOL

A friend kept pushing me to see this and I had never heard of it at the time. I asked if it was violent and he laughed at me so that pricked up my ears. Loved the idea of the greatest midlife crisis of all time for a dorky high school chemistry teacher. Watched the pilot and thought I had been pushed directly into Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. What a rush. Then binged the first season and I think I started week to week viewing from season 2 onwards. Each episode left me high as a kite and by the time the show ended I felt like I needed rehab.

[Dani8]

I liked her, too. I thought she behaved mostly the way any mother would upon finding out what her husband was up to. (The affair was a bad idea, but I'm talking mostly about her interactions with Walt once she was in on his activities.) And I really empathized with her plight when she became the "bad guy" to Walt Junior during their separation. She couldn't defend herself, given what she knew, and Walt benefited.

Frankly, I think that would make anybody bitchy. :D

Yeah she was just trying to protect her kids which seemed pretty normal to me, plus I coveted her kimono.

I will say that turning to sleaze bag Beneke made my skin crawl, but she redeemed herself in my eyes when she reacted the way she did when visiting him in hospitl.

[earlsmoviepicks]

Skylar was the most hated female character I've ever seen in a fandom (apart from maybe Lori and Andrea in TWD). I was one of maybe 5 people who liked her, but then, I liked all the characters in that show. Atleast she wasnt like - I cant even remember her name - the blonde bubble head wife in Tyrant.

I'm sure every husband in America got deja vu twitches from her performance!

[Dani8]

I'm sure every husband in America got deja vu twitches from her performance!

Skyler or the wife in Tyrant?

Are you the guy who was shipping Marie and Saul? That was funny. Oh speaking of Saul, did he ever get any loving in BrBa? I dont think he did. He was chasing his secretary in one episode but she flipped him the bird.

[earlsmoviepicks]

Skylar was the most hated female character I've ever seen in a fandom (apart from maybe Lori and Andrea in TWD). I was one of maybe 5 people who liked her, but then, I liked all the characters in that show. Atleast she wasnt like - I cant even remember her name - the blonde bubble head wife in Tyrant.

Skylar, those disgusted looks, we all get em!

[Dani8]

Skylar, those disgusted looks, we all get em!

If I had testicles those looks would have withered them.

[Dani8]

I must rewatch the last two episodes but for now I have some questions for anyone who watched it recently

1, How much money did uncle jack let Walt keep?

2. Did Jesse get any money at all?

3. Why did Skyler abandon the house or was she in police protection?

4. How did Walt find her?

5. What happened to their cars?

OK that's enough for now. Not important questions. The thread just got me thinking.

[ynwtf]

A friend kept pushing me to see this and I had never heard of it at the time. I asked if it was violent and he laughed at me so that pricked up my ears. Loved the idea of the greatest midlife crisis of all time for a dorky high school chemistry teacher. Watched the pilot and thought I had been pushed directly into Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. What a rush. Then binged the first season and I think I started week to week viewing from season 2 onwards. Each episode left me high as a kite and by the time the show ended I felt like I needed rehab.


I love that description, lol. It's been a while since I watched it, but I do remember binging daily. Probably 3 eps a night after work, or even pushing through until I passed out. The realist in me knows that you can't avoid certain annoying TV tropes in a series for long, but for the life of me I just can't remember one off the top of my head. I mean ones that pushed my suspension of disbelief too far. Oh I'm sure they were there, but that is not what stands out. I only remember the rush of watching each episode and preaching to friends and family as a self-ordained Breaking Bad evangelist on the healing powers of Heisenberg and blue meth. Well. Not that meth had healing powers....

I need to watch this again.

[Dani8]

I love that description, lol. It's been a while since I watched it, but I do remember binging daily. Probably 3 eps a night after work, or even pushing through until I passed out. The realist in me knows that you can't avoid certain annoying TV tropes in a series for long, but for the life of me I just can't remember one off the top of my head. I mean ones that pushed my suspension of disbelief too far. Oh I'm sure they were there, but that is not what stands out. I only remember the rush of watching each episode and preaching to friends and family as a self-ordained Breaking Bad evangelist on the healing powers of Heisenberg and blue meth. Well. Not that meth had healing powers....

I need to watch this again.

Yeah I remember after each episode my eyes would be huge holes in a blanket. I was seriously spun out by this show. My eldest brother loved it to start but I think he connected way too much with Walt who was about the same age and found it a bit of a downer so stopped watching. The idea of a midlife crisis and releasing the inner monster we all have was too much for him.

[Yoda]

I miss the high octane stress of that show. One friend said he couldnt even discuss it during the week because he thought he was going to have a heart attack LOL.
Yeah, I have a very vivid memory of a particular scene, in a particular episode (I can say "knife" and I'll bet you all know what I'm talking about), where my wife squeezed my arm about as hard as she ever has.

[Dani8]

"Granite State"

(sigh)

I actually felt physically ill in a few spots tonight... and I still feel a little nauseous. It's that nausea that comes with emotional stress. I very rarely feel it over things that aren't real life, though.
.

Ha! Twins. This show would stress me out to the point I would vomit. Infact yesterday when Yods gave me the link I thought back to how stressy it left me I threw up my breakfast. No kidding, although there were other factors afoot yesterday. I got so totally sucked into these characters, and swore blind allegiance to G&G for ever. Then Bryan Fuller came along... that's another story.

[Dani8]

Yeah, I have a very vivid memory of a particular scene, in a particular episode (I can say "knife" and I'll bet you all know what I'm talking about), where my wife squeezed my arm about as hard as she ever has.

Ooh yeah. I'm afraid of knives so I ws probably strangling a cushion and trying not to cry LOL but I was also screaming KILL HIM!!! Vince kept saying there would come a point where viewers would hate Walt. I denied denied denied but then that came out of my mouth.

[Yoda]

My wife and I were, for whatever reason, really in tune with Gilligan and the narrative and saw what the goal was just a few episodes in (confirmed, in our minds, with that Gretchen scene in season one). It made for such a weird experience, then, watching people grapple with that same thing 2-3 seasons later. That probably sounds condescending, but it's not meant that way: there are plenty of other things other people "get" way before me. But we were just on this show's wavelength, so I was telling people up and down this thread that it HAD to end up where it eventually did, character-wise.

Lest it seem like I'm patting my own back too much, this was probably helped by a conversation I had with another MoFo (and another Aussie, in fact) about the show before I started watching it that, I think, sort of primed me to think about it this way.

[Dani8]

My wife and I were, for whatever reason, really in tune with Gilligan and the narrative and saw what the goal was just a few episodes in (confirmed, in our minds, with that Gretchen scene in season one). It made for such a weird experience, then, watching people grapple with that same thing 2-3 seasons later. That probably sounds condescending, but it's not meant that way: there are plenty of other things other people "get" way before me. But we were just on this show's wavelength, so I was telling people up and down this thread that it HAD to end up where it eventually did, character-wise.

Yeah I love it when you get sucked into the mind of the showrunners. I did it with these two and then with Fuller. Kinda becomes a really exciting nightmare. Same for BCS - I dont get all the nothing ever happens complaints in that show. For me it's incredibly complex and layered. Every little detail taken care of. I dont mean that to be condescending to those who dont fit with the show either - you either get sucked into their minds or you dont. Nothing wrong with that.

[Sarge]

I am jealous of people that haven't yet seen this.

In my top 3 of TV shows ever.

[Dani8]

I am jealous of people that haven't yet seen this.

In my top 3 of TV shows ever.

LOL I sort of am and not. I loved getting caught up in the insanity of the fandom at the time, but wish I'd been here instead because it's a lot more civilised. All the Skyler then Anna hate was making me tear my hair out. I've never seen anything so bizarre. I mean...death threats because an actress was playing a particular role? Hand me a straight jacket STAT.

I remember one guy saying he watches each episode plastered so he cn sober up then watch it again for the first time.

[Wplains]

I am jealous of people that haven't yet seen this.

In my top 3 of TV shows ever.


I've never seen it. So I guess you'd recommend it? :p

[Dani8]

I've never seen it. So I guess you'd recommend it? :p

LOL yeah it's hair raising.

[Sarge]

I've never seen it. So I guess you'd recommend it? :p

Superb television.

[Dani8]

Superb television.


Brillint writing.

[Wplains]

Brillint writing.

Better than GoT, TWD and Black Sails?

Those are my top three at the mo.

[Dani8]

Better than GoT, TWD and Black Sails?

Those are my top three at the mo.

For me - absolutely.

[Wplains]

For me - absolutely.

Ok. Better than Hannibal (which I know you loved)? ;)

[Dani8]

Ok. Better than Hannibal (which I know you loved)? ;)

Yep. Although Hannibal and BCS are a very close second on my list, then Westworld.

[Sarge]

Better than GoT, TWD and Black Sails?

Those are my top three at the mo.

I'm gonna say yes.

GoT - The writing is good but it's the budget and the cast that make it so good.

The Walking dead has fell apart. Totally ran out of ideas since season 2. This whole Negan thing is tiresome. Zombies are bad, people are bad, rinse and repeat.

Haven't seen Black sails.

[Dani8]

I'm gonna say yes.

GoT - The writing is good but it's the budget and the cast that make it so good.

The Walking dead has fell apart. Totally ran out of ideas since season 2. This whole Negan thing is tiresome. Zombies are bad, people are bad, rinse and repeat.

Haven't seen Black sails.

I agree. GoT is visually stupendous but a bit overbloated with characters. I still get excited to see it. TWD - not at all since season 1. Got a bit excited when Negan arrived but I've fallen off. Black Sails is about to end and I loved it to start but disappointed with this season although it still looks great. BrBa I never lost the rush, the love of the characters and dynamics, or got bored and distracted. All phones were off, the remote control was hidden, and sharp objects were all locked in the attic.

[Dani8]

Well, sure, but compared to what? He loves them more than strangers, but he's chosen to preserve his own self-image over keeping them safe more than once.

Anyway, probably worth clarifying what it means to be "rooting" for him. He's done some awful things and I feel like the show's moral center demands that he go down, probably by dying. The only real question going into this last season was whether or not he'd realize the error of his ways by the end, which would possibly save some portion of his soul, though not his life. And at this point the answer seems to be that he will.

I thought that would be how it would turn out as well. He'd kill off Heisenberg because he realised how bad he was. It would have redeemed him. But woah, his acknowledgment to his wife he did it because he liked it was a sucker punch and a half. He couldnt even let her believe the lie he did it for his family. Imagine living with that.

[Dani8]

Yoda: Anyone else notice Walt roll his barrel right past a pair of khakis in the desert? Anyone else think those were his, from the pilot episode, especially given the flashback?

Yes! Nicely done, wasnt it. They were his pants from the pilot. How did he get home in his tighty whities and not be seen by Skyler?

[Dani8]

Sorry to quote this way but I dont want to lose my place in the thread

Mama Yoda: I hope I'm not the only person talking to the television during this episode.

LOL. Yes!!! I usually do the 'Oh No...Oh No...Oh *bad word*

[Dani8]

Lucas:
+2 09-15-13
^ It would be very,very interesting to see some of Gus' past or how Mike's life was like when he was still a cop. Atm I am very hesitant about this spin-off. I feel it's unnecessary, but I'l check it out nonetheless.

Phenomenal acting by Jono for both his backstory and telling his daughter in law. I was blown away. Still gobsmacked at how good he was with that portrayal.

[Dani8]

Mama Yods, remember this scene? Hilariously awkward. Mirrored in BCS with the dinner with Chuck, his wife and Jimmy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEu4A24c6VQ

[Austruck]

Omigosh, I am SO going to rewatch this series.

[Dani8]

Omigosh, I am SO going to rewatch this series.

My apologies for enabling but I thought I would share the joy because I feel the need as well. :)

Do you ever watch a show backwards on a rewatch? I do that sometimes to see where I've been, like sitting at the back window of a car. Yes I know that's odd.

[Yoda]

Wife and I are gonna rewatch too. Maybe not all; hard to say. And maybe not right away. But we've been thinking about doing it for awhile, and I think it's just about time. We might just start at season 3, or something, but I'm not sure yet.

[Dani8]

I think it's really interesting revisiting the pilot to see how much they changed.

Oh god, but that's also quite tragic. Sweet Jesse was so innocent back then, coming out with cowhouse, which I think Aus or you mentioned later in the thread.

[Dani8]

Mama Yods: but I think I'm starting to grasp for SOMEONE to root for, and even Marie has had her nasty little moments (lying klepto, anyone?).

Yes. Skyler was right - she was a spoilt little bitch, but I think she redeemed herself when Hank was crippled. I found it really painful to watch her tending to him and he completely shut her out, no doubt from pride that she even had to wipe his bum. Humiliating. Just a broken relationship through no fault of their own. I felt for both of them at that time, and sort of understood why she went back to stealing.

[Dani8]

Yods: Once again, Walt shuts his sins up in a barrel. Not a duffle bag or a chest or anything: a barrel. The same thing he stores dissolved bodies in. This time, it's where he stores his blood money. Hard not to wonder if his fate is to end up in one of them.

Oh that was creepy but nicely put and a great observation.

[Dani8]

Yods: we're gonna order pizza and watch the premiere and it's gonna be greeeeeaaaaaat.


https://68.media.tumblr.com/433cc85d67cc7203324ec8b4ddcfae89/tumblr_o286oact3V1si9fjqo1_500.gif

So funny that was the one and only take.

[Dani8]

Hilarious it ended upright. so hungry right now.

http://img.pandawhale.com/81990-roof-pizza-meme-Breaking-Bad-vwcg.jpeg

OK that'll do for a bit. Only up to page 29 and I've probably given hundreds of reps.

[Wplains]

I'm gonna say yes.

GoT - The writing is good but it's the budget and the cast that make it so good.

So the writing, budget and cast are all good? That's a win-win in my book lol!

The Walking dead has fell apart. Totally ran out of ideas since season 2. This whole Negan thing is tiresome. Zombies are bad, people are bad, rinse and repeat.

Haven't seen Black sails.

Well, to be fair TWD is closely following the original source, mainly the comic. I read them all before they were all taken offline. Read up to the end of Rick's war with Negan and a small bit of the new arc.

BTW, Black Sails is awesome, well worth a watch. Much better than that junk Pirates of the Caribbean. I'm really sorry there is only one episode left. I will really miss it,

[Sarge]

So the writing, budget and cast are all good? That's a win-win in my book lol!



Well, to be fair TWD is closely following the original source, mainly the comic. I read them all before they were all taken offline. Read up to the end of Rick's war with Negan and a small bit of the new arc.

BTW, Black Sails is awesome, well worth a watch. Much better than that junk Pirates of the Caribbean. I'm really sorry there is only one episode left. I will really miss it,

Yeah I love GoT. The writing is good. With BB and BCS the writing is exceptional. The character development is some of the best that I have seen.

TWD is the same two story lines spread over 9 seasons.

Black sails and Vikings are on my watchlist.

[Optimus]

Loved this show. Was gutted when it finished.

[Dani8]

Skepsis93

wait...wut? Yoda called it on Hank having the revelation while on the toilet? That is outstanding, Yods!!!

Edit. I mean you called that Hank would be on the toilet, not that you were on the toilet.

[Dani8]

LMAO at the video ash linked with the boy on the dirt bike. You got me!!!

[Dani8]

I watched Ozymandias again last night. I forgot how damn good that was.

nd I also forgot which page I was up to in the thread :confusedwhite:

[Dani8]

christine

Can't remember if I've posted on this thread yet, but just watched the last ep of season 4 and I'm just blown away ! Me and my son have followed it since the beginning when it was screened in the UK on one of the cable channels ages ago. I've always loved the clear light of the photography and the framing of some of the shots is awesome, but even this beauty has got better and better till this last series, well I dunno how anyone can top that amazing look! I love everything about it and keep telling people to watch it!

Michael Slovis has such a great eye!

[Dani8]

Mama Yoda: The real question is: Was I the only one who thought EVER SO BRIEFLY that Gus was a Terminator-type robot (like Schwarzenegger) when he walked out of that room and turned his head?

Urgh some tool on imdb posted the photo of that the night before the finale. I will never understand what possesses people to do that.

[Dani8]

Yoda

Oh, and I've heard it suggested (and I think this pretty much has to be true) that Gus was involved with Pinochet down in Chile. That would explain a lot, particularly his keen instincts.

Yeh I'm actually hoping they run with that this season.

[Dani8]

http://i.imgur.com/4Qe9g.gif
omg. lol'ed so hard.

LOL! The memories.

[Dani8]

Mama Yoda: Yeah, I'm curious about Gus's past in Chile now too. And the way they say it, so much depends on whether Gus is using his real name. If he's used an alias since leaving Chile, then he could've been anyone and the secret is what his name used to be, which would be enough for both the cartel and eventually Hank to KNOW who he "is" ...

Fring - German. Madrigal?
And I always thought Lydia looked Chilean. Gustavo's daughter or maybe even wife?

So many possibilities.

[Dani8]

Urghh just rewatched the end scene of Ozymandias again. I dont remember getting hayfever every other time watching that but the sisters crying then Walt dropping big fat tears got me choked up.

[Saunch]

Eh?

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/breaking-bad-movie-creator-vince-gilligan-works-1158881

Vince Gillian is working on a Breaking Bad movie sequel, presumably centered around Jesse.

It's unclear if the two-hour project will be released theatrically or made for television.

[Yoda]

I saw. Pretty hyped.

I think, when Better Call Saul just ended up being Expanded Universe Breaking Bad, maybe he realized this is just the kind of story he likes to tell, and is good at telling, and that there's an appetite out there for him to fill out the world he made a bit more still.

[Austruck]

There are a tidy handful of interesting characters in this universe, so doing things like this should succeed nicely. Better Call Saul has proved that point, especially since it not only borrowed Saul Goodman, but also Mike and a few others, all of whom seem to have interesting side stories going on.

Since only Walter White's actual story/life ended at the end of Breaking Bad (well, aside from characters who died earlier, like Mike and Hank and Gus), there are still plenty of characters whose futures we would be interested in seeing. I may have been cautiously optimistic before Better Call Saul first aired, but having seen all those episodes so far, I'm totally in for this movie idea.

[Yoda]

https://twitter.com/marthacarr/status/1152342650869166080

[John-Connor]

https://i.imgur.com/v2xng8r.jpg

[doubledenim]

Pretty sure that was test-footage for a Cocktail remake.

[WrinkledMind]

Pretty sure that was test-footage for a Cocktail remake.


Or male version of Coyote Ugly.

[Yoda]

It's happening! Soon! https://twitter.com/IGN/status/1165395064564195329

[Austruck]

Yeah, I just read an article about that too!

https://ew.com/tv/2019/08/24/breaking-bad-movie-teaser-airdate/?utm_term=39FC90D0-C6C0-11E9-8B43-13D739982C1E&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=entertainmentweekly_entertainmentweekly&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_content=link&fbclid=IwAR1H7NBNd3NiVYQalbT44afM_sPG04g5_E9y23vTU8qfjRav4D8t-8HuB4Y&fbclid=IwAR3sQXmNiIo7jVRDxfLdEQgY9XIttbDAG-gxD8SfnveyDgMqMGUQRuP-DP4