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Okay, I hate the fact that air head celebrities overtly support a candidate I voted for, no I didn't "pledge." So let me get this straight, why are conservatives so shocked, and troubled by this? I can remember pundits mocking celebrities who supported Obama, which I can't blame them for, since it's easy to see through their trendy, shallow bandwagon mentality. So if they don't matter and are so petty, then why care about their opinion? I'm reminded of several Bush townhall meetings where several individuals were said to be grateful for him to be President, and claimed it to be divine will. Apparently everyone's experiencing some memory loss, since Bush had many celebrities backing him in the 2000 election. In the wake of 9/11 we got a similar schpeal from Bush to go to the movies, shop, and go about life as usual, so why now is it improper for the President to have an initiative? What if this video were of Jon Voight, pleging to John McCain to fight terrorism, that wouldn't be wrong, would it?

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No not at all and neither is this video. I think the big deal, to some, is the amount of celebs. To me, it really is not a big deal whatsoever, it is freedom of speech and if this is how they feel that is certainly their right despite if I agree or not.

Awesome video, man! Thanks!

You are so right! I never did understand the conservative mentality towards this issue.

I sort of agree, as I don't understand either side's view on the subject. These celebrities are a bunch of yahoos, as far as I am concerned. As usual, I am all about people thinking for themselves...

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Well, the video isn't a great big deal to me at all. The celebrities I could care less about. What bothered me about it was the following:

1). The implication that old people don't have access to health care.
2). The embedded hybrid car commercial
3). Work to make good the 200 year promise to end slavery. WHAT?! We have slavery in this country? Oh yeah they mean the middle class who's going to have to pay for all of this bullsh*t.
4). I pledge to be of service to Barack Obama. WAIT! Aren't elected leaders supposed to be in service of We The People?
5). I pledge to change how I live. WTF does that mean?
6). Demi pledges to be a SERVANT to our president? Really? A SERVANT? I'm sorry, but screw that. He's elected to serve WE The People.

No, he's elected to serve Them, the moneymen. Anything you get is gravy.

Also (and I don't mean this seriously) isn't the US sport draft system a sort of slavery? A slew of able bodied men, 'given' or traded to a club and told where they're going to play. No regard for whether they want to or not. No regard for how far from home it is and, to my knowledge, no legal right to challenge the decision. However, if two 'owners' come to an agreement, only then can the original decision be reversed.

at the draft analogy.

I think the key to healthcare reform is "bulk" Yeah I know sounds funny, but hear me out. The company I work for pays X ($'s) to have Z (amount of people) insured. Let us say that X = $50 on a monthly basis and Z = 1000. Now it is common knowledge that "bulk" brings discounts. So if lets say Z = 20,000 and in turn made X = $35 then that is a big overall saving. Now here comes the good part: let's say Z = 15 million + a few million immigrants for bonus then X should be around a buck fiddy. So the government should hire all the uninsured people for a salary of $1 a year and put them on the rolls and get an awesome heathcare plan for everyone. They of course could keep their day jobs (or night if that is the case) - healthcare problem solved.

I'm sick of people calling Obama a "socialist," if Obama's a socialist, then Nader must be Mussolini.

Obama's backing down from the public option, climate change, and we're still In Iraq & Afghanistan, and STILL conservatives claim him to have some nefarious, wide-reaching, left-wing movement guiding him. When I say this, it isn't a compliment, but I don't see a lot of difference from the last guy, at least as of yet. At least when Republicans take control they aren't swayed by protests, and public opinion.

I don't even really care, at least on a tangible level about the public option, but it's just the point that he dropped it and ran.


I mean I'm fairly cynical, I knew that a lot of campaign rhetoric would die-down, but I hoped for the best and expected the worst. The best, being at least some more progressive policies be passed to balance out eight years of W., and worst being that only one or two expectations be met.

Another angle to all this, which irritates me, since we're talking about healthcare. I love how all of a sudden conservatives are so compassionate and concerned about "death panels." Most conservatives, I won't say all, but a decent percentage, are even ideologically against social security, disability, and Medicare. The hardliners, as they're called believe that; "they need to get a job like everyone else." Glenn Beck, and Ted Nudgett had a good long talk on the matter.

Okay, so this is something I have a personal experience with. My sister suffers from bipolar schizophrenia, and has a difficult time coping with life even under medication. As with every person affected with this disorder, often times their medicine needs adjusted, as a result they experience a breakdown when this happens. This has happened several times with her.

So, let's pretend the hardliners get their way, no means for her to get assistance obtaining medecine, she can't work due to her mood swings, and as a result winds up harming herself and possibly those around her. Then you'd hear; "how do these things happen?" It happens everyday, even with these systems in place, now imagine society without any assistance. Now imagine an entire poulation of unmedicated schizos to contend with on your way to the car, inconvenient, am I right?

So, I tell you what, since the Glenn Becks and Ted Nudgetts like to spew this horse s&@t, why don't they hire the people with this disorder, so as to get them off the programs? Spend an hour and a half trying to talk someone down, whose huddled in a corner, screaming about invisible attackers. No, that's a little too real for these centralized-minded fellows to deal with. They like the tax money they take and feed it into missile defense shields and subverting stem-cell research, but not the insanity that results from it.

Like I've always said, the ability to memorize lines or lyrics does not mean stars are intelligent or capable of reasoning.

More Hollywood stars are PC "liberal arts" types who naturally gravitate to the Democratic party and therefore do more sound bites for Bill Clinton and Obama. Hardcore Republicans are more rare outside the studio execs' offices, and so do fewer sound bites. Either way, I wouldn't buy a used car from any of them. Base political and economic decisions on the word of people who make their living by faking sincerity? C'mon!!!

The whole Joe Wilson situation seems to have gotten out of control, I mean what he did was disrespectful, I wouldn't automatically label it racism. Also, I wouldn't deny that race is a factor, an example being the tea party protests, I wouldn't say all participants were motivated by racial politics, but there are people out there who are, and obama being the president, of course they would like to join in.

The people who are protesting now, probably wouldn't like any Democrat in the Whitehouse. Yet, these people claim they didn't like it when the Bush administration instigated the financial takeover, and I heard one protester claim that it's about the taxation of the last ten years, although it does seem odd that neither Clinton or Bush heard so much as a peep out of them.

To be honest, before he was even sworn in, he was being cast as a tyrant by most conservative outlets, Rush Limbaugh gave a poor family a truck, to help them out because of the hypothetical doom that was upon them.

There are people who believe him to be a; socialist, fascist, "secret muslim," communist, illuminatti, and one of the four horsemen of the apocalypse. Nevermind the fact, that all the aforementioned political philosophies contradict one another, and never mind the fact that most of Obama's foreign and domestic policy is closer to that of Bill Clinton, than that of che Guvera or Hugo Chavez. To me, I see more xenophobia, than out out of the box racism.


The fact that in this country, the closest thing to a liberal we have in power is Barack Obama; a president that continues most of the Bush financial and foreign policies, says a lot about the political spectrum of this country. I couldn't imagine how conservatives would handle a Nader or Kucinich Presidency, they would beg for an Obama administration compared to that.

It is going to interesting how the Afgan situation playes out. Why is it so tough, and I ask this of many presidents, or administations, why is it so tough to totally commit to something instead of doing it half arse? We should take care of the situation or let's leave. I know it is easier said then done, but that's the problem, not many presidents want to make the tough choice. I am grateful that we are at least trying, but it is time to up the raise or fold our hand in this region. Look at Desert Storm, it was a complete success until we just up and left things undone. There was a total combined coalition force of 640,000 troops when you add the Turkish and the Mother of all Battles was a bit lopsided.

Put a half million troops in Afgan and take the same precautions and we would be able to ferret out the rats from their mountain holes as easily as we did the scum from the mile deep bunkers in Iraq. Or we could just not listen to the commanders on the ground when they ask for more help. I hope Obama does not leave it staus quo there, need to ramp it up or ship out.

Interesting video here makes a good argument for no troop increase.

I am sick to death of hearing conservatives bellyaching about whether or not their tax money is going to abortions. People who don't ideologically support the war, their money goes to Iraq, tax money from people who support stem cell research went into subverting it by the Bush administration, and the taxes from people who support gay marriage went to the salaries of representatives that were against their beliefs.

Oh No! Conservatives may have to pay for abortions! Now that's just wrong! We have to make an exception in this case.

As much as I dislike Obama's policies (yes, he is a Socialist) and pedigree (Chicago-style politics at its finest), his presence is actually somewhat palatable compared to that certain constituency that keeps crying "racist" every time someone aggressively disagrees with him.

For him, it must be like having some annoying auto-immune disease that deludes itself into thinking it is helping the host, but in reality is actually slowly destroying it.

I'm enjoying the revelation that Jimmy Carter, Derrick Z. Jackson, Maureen Dowd, and the rest of the Race-Baiting moonbat crowd will one day wake up and realize the terrible mistake they've made in insulting roughly one half of the country, while marginalizing the real problem of racism as it exists under other rocks they've failed to turn over.

To quote an associated press article from today: "if everyone is a racist, is anyone?"

The liberal movement is stabilizing. It has gone as far as it will ever go in this country. I'm greatly enjoying that FACT. Obama's policies have been rejected-- and soundly. The cultural war between left and right is being dominated by the right in terms of online blogs, primetime cable TV news (that's not even close), grassroots activism, and certainly investigative journalism (that's not even close, either). Meanwhile, the old-boy liberal lion media, aka newspapers and network TV news, are choking and turning to dust.

The only aspect of rhetorical dominance the left is enjoying is purely organizational: that is, party affiliation. The Democratic party is stronger than the GOP. However, I believe that battle is also getting closer as I type this. And thus the tedious cycle will begin again.

Maybe the people in this country will one day wake up and start voting third party and less government. Sounds like a winning combination.

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The problem is that when each party espouses the other party as the Downfall of our Constitution, etc. (which they do at least once a decade), then it makes the entire concept of what we have as the closest thing to a perfect government as somehow Bogus. Neither one of the two Parties wants a viable Third party because they will lose Billions of dollars in crap and somehow invalidate what they see as their birthright as American citizens. I personally wish that no one ever again will vote Republican or Democrat. I wish that just as many of the people on each side who quote their Gods as Mantra about how the other side is the AntiChrist will be struck dumb for their BS.

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In a way, I do, too. But I have to admit, I'm not thrilled with progressive third parties. They represent the opposite of my own ideology and life philosophy.

And I know that liberals don't respect third party conservatives, either. Glenn Beck is solid proof of that.

It's difficult to respect a man who would spout off about the second coming on national television, then have the guts to call Musims out on their crazy beliefs, and endorse state secession from the U.S., or at least take him seriously.

Second, "progressive," "liberal," and "Socialist," are not the same thing, no matter how much you want them to be. Interchangeably calling non-conservatives such, only shows your ignorance to what they mean. Technically, Democrats and Republicans who worked toward civil rights were "progressive." A "liberal," is a fluid descriptor, that as of late, has been used to demonize anyone outside of the realm of placating to the conservative base, John McCain is even considered liberal. Third, Socialism is a direct worker ownership of the administrative means of production, with the exception of being bailed out I don't see workers or unions having any more say than as usual, and I hardly think the automotive industry, or banking system constitutes ALL of U.S. industry.

Well, since we're so in love with capitalism that we refuse to see that is why we are stuck in a two party system, I gather we will never get out from under it. There is just too much money at stake for everyone. This is class warfare at its finest.

The American people do need to wake up. They need to wake up that they are being used and manipulated to support division and hate because throughout time, when the masses are divided, they have no power. Just look up and read that post by Karl. Perfect example of words whose sole purpose is to support that division and hate.

Oh, and I love Jimmy Carter. Good man. Good heart. Wise and nothing even remotely close to a "moonbat."

I always liked Carter on a personal level, but disagreed with pretty much everything he tried to do. Weird combo I know. I was wondering, if a minority disagreed with Obama are they also racist? This racist thing has gone a bit too far in its generality and I do not think that anyone believes everyone that disagress with Obama is racist, do they?