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Edit: sorry this isn't a tagline. I hate taglines.....
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A film is nothing without its tagline.
I'm someone who's happy to waltz into a cinema and see a film I literally have no prior knowledge of, a tagline is simply the most brief form of advertising or commercialisation available, constructed specifically to catch your attention and I admit there have been some good ones in the past...."in space no one can hear you scream" < The tagline alone is enough to make me want to go see that movie.
But to claim that "a film is nothing without its tagline" what a complete load of ......horse-pucky. I went to see 'There will be blood' with no prior knowledge of what it was about simply because my first choice was sold out and I hadn't booked tickets.
The film was great I enjoyed it very much personally, which according to your logic is insane because.........'I didn't even know the tagline for the film!!!!!!!!'
Youl find that producers are the one's who squabble and weave over what the tagline should be because its directly related to marketing, It has NO impact on the quality of the film what so ever.
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planet actually agrees with you, NBT. 
I'm not going to say that he speaks with "forked tongue", but he does talk out of both sides of his mouth at the same time just to cover all the bases.
I'm not going to say that he speaks with "forked tongue", but he does talk out of both sides of his mouth at the same time just to cover all the bases.
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Mark's right. Nevertheless, you bring up an interesting discussion topic.
This isn't even true. I've done far worse.
Take a look at McLuhan's tetrad of media effects.
1. What does the medium enhance?
2. What does the medium make obsolete?
3. What does the medium retrieve that had been obsolesced earlier?
4. What does the medium flip into when pushed to extremes?
I knew everything about There Will Be Blood--I follow P. T. Anderson's every move obsessively--and I think I probably loved it even more than you did because of it. I think advertising is DEFINITELY a part of the art form. Take a look at the recent trailer for Scott Pilgrim. It's probably the coolest thing I've ever seen, but the film's probably utterly unextraordinary. Hell, even indie bands make music videos, right? And you know what? Usually those are the best ones!
One of the most ridiculous post's you've ever made.
I'm someone who's happy to waltz into a cinema and see a film I literally have no prior knowledge of, a tagline is simply the most brief form of advertising or commercialisation available, constructed specifically to catch your attention and I admit there have been some good ones in the past...."in space no one can hear you scream" < The tagline alone is enough to make me want to go see that movie.
1. What does the medium enhance?
2. What does the medium make obsolete?
3. What does the medium retrieve that had been obsolesced earlier?
4. What does the medium flip into when pushed to extremes?
I knew everything about There Will Be Blood--I follow P. T. Anderson's every move obsessively--and I think I probably loved it even more than you did because of it. I think advertising is DEFINITELY a part of the art form. Take a look at the recent trailer for Scott Pilgrim. It's probably the coolest thing I've ever seen, but the film's probably utterly unextraordinary. Hell, even indie bands make music videos, right? And you know what? Usually those are the best ones!
Mark's right. Nevertheless, you bring up an interesting discussion topic.
This isn't even true. I've done far worse.
Take a look at McLuhan's tetrad of media effects.
1. What does the medium enhance?
2. What does the medium make obsolete?
3. What does the medium retrieve that had been obsolesced earlier?
4. What does the medium flip into when pushed to extremes?
I knew everything about There Will Be Blood--I follow P. T. Anderson's every move obsessively--and I think I probably loved it even more than you did because of it. I think advertising is DEFINITELY a part of the art form. Take a look at the recent trailer for Scott Pilgrim. It's probably the coolest thing I've ever seen, but the film's probably utterly unextraordinary. Hell, even indie bands make music videos, right? And you know what? Usually those are the best ones!
This isn't even true. I've done far worse.
Take a look at McLuhan's tetrad of media effects.
1. What does the medium enhance?
2. What does the medium make obsolete?
3. What does the medium retrieve that had been obsolesced earlier?
4. What does the medium flip into when pushed to extremes?
I knew everything about There Will Be Blood--I follow P. T. Anderson's every move obsessively--and I think I probably loved it even more than you did because of it. I think advertising is DEFINITELY a part of the art form. Take a look at the recent trailer for Scott Pilgrim. It's probably the coolest thing I've ever seen, but the film's probably utterly unextraordinary. Hell, even indie bands make music videos, right? And you know what? Usually those are the best ones!
I do however disagree with the idea that advertising adds to the quality of the art form. I appreciate the power of the media, I've studied it for 8 consecutive years on the various courses I've ended up on, It certainly can subsequently result in me subconsciously psychoanalysing the film for more detail until I've found it and finding plot detail others wouldn't care to look for (Chris Nolan films obtain this). The art form, remains the same in my opinion especially since the tag-lines are almost always fleshed out within the actual film.... have you ever walked out of a film and thought " hmm I don't know where they got that tagline from and/or what was it referring to.
Essentially though even with the 'good point you just made' your original comment was ridiculous, unless of course your implying a film is nothing unless you have some sort of connection or appreciation with a particular member of crew like a director e.t.c that is enhanced by additional commercialisation.
I stand by my original statement, that a film is not "nothing without its tagline".
Oh, and it may actually be your worst post based entirely on the fact that your response completely contradicted your original statement, I'm happy to call it 'worst couple of posts"
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What is a tagline though? Isn't a tagline the outward manifestation of some sort of projected context? As McLuhan said, "the medium is the message".
Not adds to the quality per se, but rather the "enjoyment" or appreciation. All parts of the work add to its meaning, either intentionally or not. If a work is to be presented with accompanying advertising and promotional materials, I would rather include those in my overall appraisal than simply dismiss it. Stanley Kubrick, for instance, edited all his trailers and approved all his posters and taglines. Not that all directors have this amount of control, but certain taglines are definitely more than just some sort of cheap gimmick. The Clockwork Orange tagline for example is absolutely brilliant and adds a little shade of meaning to the work as a whole.
The tagline can also work well as a subtitle. I like the film The Hours because the title is seemingly meaningless until the very last line, at which point this "outside" exterior thing is integrated into the work. If instead of saying the title, the film quoted internally the "tagline", I would have been equally impressed.
I better be careful here that TNBT doesn't pull McLuhan out of the corner!
Not adds to the quality per se, but rather the "enjoyment" or appreciation. All parts of the work add to its meaning, either intentionally or not. If a work is to be presented with accompanying advertising and promotional materials, I would rather include those in my overall appraisal than simply dismiss it. Stanley Kubrick, for instance, edited all his trailers and approved all his posters and taglines. Not that all directors have this amount of control, but certain taglines are definitely more than just some sort of cheap gimmick. The Clockwork Orange tagline for example is absolutely brilliant and adds a little shade of meaning to the work as a whole.
The tagline can also work well as a subtitle. I like the film The Hours because the title is seemingly meaningless until the very last line, at which point this "outside" exterior thing is integrated into the work. If instead of saying the title, the film quoted internally the "tagline", I would have been equally impressed.
I better be careful here that TNBT doesn't pull McLuhan out of the corner!
What is a tagline though? Isn't a tagline the outward manifestation of some sort of projected context? As McLuhan said, "the medium is the message".
Not adds to the quality per se, but rather the "enjoyment" or appreciation. All parts of the work add to its meaning, either intentionally or not. If a work is to be presented with accompanying advertising and promotional materials, I would rather include those in my overall appraisal than simply dismiss it. Stanley Kubrick, for instance, edited all his trailers and approved all his posters and taglines. Not that all directors have this amount of control, but certain taglines are definitely more than just some sort of cheap gimmick. The Clockwork Orange tagline for example is absolutely brilliant and adds a little shade of meaning to the work as a whole.
The tagline can also work well as a subtitle. I like the film The Hours because the title is seemingly meaningless until the very last line, at which point this "outside" exterior thing is integrated into the work. If instead of saying the title, the film quoted internally the "tagline", I would have been equally impressed.
I better be careful here that TNBT doesn't pull McLuhan out of the corner!
Not adds to the quality per se, but rather the "enjoyment" or appreciation. All parts of the work add to its meaning, either intentionally or not. If a work is to be presented with accompanying advertising and promotional materials, I would rather include those in my overall appraisal than simply dismiss it. Stanley Kubrick, for instance, edited all his trailers and approved all his posters and taglines. Not that all directors have this amount of control, but certain taglines are definitely more than just some sort of cheap gimmick. The Clockwork Orange tagline for example is absolutely brilliant and adds a little shade of meaning to the work as a whole.
The tagline can also work well as a subtitle. I like the film The Hours because the title is seemingly meaningless until the very last line, at which point this "outside" exterior thing is integrated into the work. If instead of saying the title, the film quoted internally the "tagline", I would have been equally impressed.
I better be careful here that TNBT doesn't pull McLuhan out of the corner!
You say "I would rather include those in my overall appraisal than simply dismiss it"..... Of course I reiterate "NOT ONCE did I say that the brief form of commercialisation also know as 'Tag-lines' were not effective, I simply stated that I disagreed with your post that "A FILM IS NOTHING WITHOUT ITS TAGLINE" , I then gave an example of me enjoying a film with no prior knowledge of the films plot, not least its Tagline.". Your now softening your opinion to the idea that these variables are 'better included than not', this debate however started off the bat of a comment that stated that "A film is NOTHING without its tagline'
You think the tagline 'Being the adventures of a young man whose principal interests are rape, ultra-violence and Beethoven.' "adds a little shade of meaning to the work as a whole"...... I think I was pretty clear on that when I watched the events that landed him in jail......
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The many different taglines of The Big Lebowski.
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That's a good one.
