The MoFo Movie Club Discussion - Death Proof

Not yet. Got caught up in work, and then preparing for the Oscar Chat. I realize I'm already a bit late to the party, but I should be able to see it soon.

talk about intense!

Please do!

I sense that this thread, like Muhammad Ali in the late 70s, is spluttering towards retirement. Will there be a Leon Spinks style last hurrah or a Trevor Berbick-alike final nail in the coffin?

Geez, that was tortured.

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"Critics are like eunuchs in a harem; they know how the Tatty 100 is done, they've seen it done every day, but they're unable to do it themselves." - Brendan Behan

I ****IN LOVE THIS MOVIE I purchased Death Proof and Planet Terror while travelling around Europe in December, watched them and ****en love them both!!

The ladies in these films kicked ass and I love how Zoe said the stuff us New-Zealanders actually say, the dialogue in both films was hillarious and the action scenes were amazing!

ROSARIO DAWSON IS HOTTT WHEN SHES BEATING SOMEONE UP!! And that Ford Mustang 1972 was heaven!!!!

I also got a Death Proof 2008 calender in French with the DVD and a special features disc with all these specials but I cant understand them cause I cant speak or understand French!!

Oh and I got Planet Terror in Barcelona for 9.99 euro whatta flippin bargain mate!

And the Machete trailor was included with that film but no other extras

Well, I named the wrong movie. I named this . . .

Grindhouse Presents, Planet Terror - Extended and Unrated (Two-Disc Special Edition) (2007)



. . . but it's this. I have no clue if these are to follow one, or the other, or what.

Grindhouse Presents, Death Proof - Extended and Unrated (Two-Disc Special Edition) (2007)



I'm also a tad lost on what all may be missing from these. You all said they weren't the originals, or something?!?

If you wanted to try to recreate the theatrical experience at this exact point in time, you'd watch Planet Terror first. It does include the coming attraction of Machete up front and then dives into Planet Terror with the ultra-sexy (for guys) opening credits. Neither of the DVDs includes the several trailers and old-time snack bar advertisements which ran before Death Proof. Plus, this version of Death Proof is about 20 minutes longer than the theatrical one and changes some of the tone and implied meaning.

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These two movies have nothing to do with each other, right? I see that they both have Rose McGowan in them, but as different characters.
IMDB makes it look like Death Proof was first. They list Death Proof (2007) .... Pam, Planet Terror (2007) .... Cherry, and before those, they have Grindhouse (2007) .... Cherry Darling (segment "Planet Terror") / Pam (segment "Death Proof"). I don't even know what that means, unless it was something shown before each movie.

As far as Kurt Russell . . . Stuntman Mike surfaces in Tennessee . . . that was his first mistake.

I'm just trying to make sure I don't spend 25-30 dollars, and end up hating these. That would annoy me just a tad. Again, I've never wanted to see Pulp Fiction, but it seems to be liked by everyone here.

As far as any movie written by Quentin Tarantino, so far I have seen True Romance, and Jackie Brown. I really like those a lot, but I've never wanted to see anything else of his. He's a tad rough around the edges . . . and then some.

I'm pretty sure you're not gonna be thrilled with it if you're not a fan of Tarantino. Can't you rent it or something?

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That's my problem. I've only seen two, and I did end up liking them. I don't think I ever avoided those two, though. These others, I have.

Yeah, I haven't rented a movie in a good 15 plus years. I only like to spend money on what I can keep. Which explains the size of my collection.

So, you only watch stuff you've seen before or that you're pretty sure you're gonna like?

I dunno if you live close to a rental store or not but renting a new release at the place up the road from me costs £3.50 (for a new release, £1 for stuff over 6 months old or starring Dolph Lundgren) a night. Online rental sites usually work out even cheaper if you make enough use of them.

Go on! Live a little!

Yep, but it's very rare I won't like something. Another reason I'm hesitating. I'm past 5,000, on movies owned.
You had to make this thread, didn't you?!?

Here's a thought - buy it from somewhere that doesn't wrap its products in cellophane, watch it then return it to the store saying it was a gift for someone who already owned the film and ask if you can exchange it for something else.

That way you get round your rental phobia because you're actually buying the DVD but there's still a chance that you won't have to keep it.

Otherwise you might find you're having this problem with subsequent Movie Clubs.

As an Englishman, I didnt get the chance to see Death Proof in its original Grindhouse state, so I dont know how valid my opinion is.

I think that the problem here is that Tarantino movies are so few and far between that an audience will denounce anything short of a masterpiece as a complete failure.
Death Proof fails because there is nothing of tarantino about it, he made a homage without constructing a film around it.Sure his trademark dialogue is present and i love that the "fodder" characters
are given personalities, but... and this is a big but, It has no soul. For a project that tarantino talked about being a work of love, it doesn't feel like any effort at all was put into it.This is a man who wrote the reservoir dogs script in three weeks, he's capable of genius and he gives us quite good.
I did not dislike this film, I saw it on a date and It was the best movie I have ever seen on a date (thats not saying much, others include the tuxedo).

This is a film that works best when viewed through nostalgic eyes..
I think it is too harshly criticised because it is a Tarantino movie, but all autuers will be compared to their own work.

(just an appology for my dyslexia)

I'm seeing about a 50/50 on opinions, between here and other boards. I'll check Hollywood video, for a used copy to buy. Those are always real cheap. I'd rent it from them, but I'd probably suffocate before I got out the door.

Seriously!

Are we discussing Sicko later on?

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They had temporarily escaped the factories, the warehouses, the slaughterhouses, the car washes - they'd be back in captivity the next day but now they were out - they were wild with freedom. They weren't thinking about the slavery of poverty. Or the slavery of welfare and food stamps. The rest of us would be all right until the poor learned how to make atom bombs in their basements.

Did the people (apart from me) vote for it to win? No!

What are you anyway? Some kind of hippy Commumist?

Seriously though, that's a film I'd like to discuss in more depth but, alas, it's not gonna be in this thread.

My initial short thoughts

Bah, that didn't link me to porn... I'm disappointed.

Okay, so, when I said this, Death Proof was available for instant viewing on Netflix. I sat down yesterday, browsed over there, and saw that...it's not available anymore. Zuh?! So, anyway, that's my reasonably valid excuse for why I haven't seen it yet. I was all set, too! Was thinking of making popcorn and camping out in front of the computer.

I guess I'll have to rent it the old-fashioned way this week. D'oh.

I caught this tonight.
My apologies to those in the last two pages, as I didn't read them because I need to get to bed. Please pardone moi if I repeat someone else's point.

To begin with though, I'm going to repeat someone else's point: "it's a bit like being fed one's vitimins in grape jam" (Toose, Sir). Yup, that's about right. To elaborate: the vitimin: posers can be charmed by posers, but goD help the poser who crosses the real McCoy. The grape jam: pretty girls, insane stunt driving, spectacular crashes. And the guy holding the spoon: Tarantino, who is smirking through a running patter of how nummy-wummy is da jammy-wam. There is no WAY I can take all those butt shots seriously, and I dont' think they're intended that way, either. Everyone in this film looks like a childhood fantasy of what their 12 year old self intends to look like (and act like) as an adult. But there is a message in there, and while it's buried in over-the-top dialogue and violence, it's kind of great anyway. What Tarantino is saying, with the juvenility of the mileau, is that hurting people for sport is juvenile. And that if you have no regard for the feelings of others, you can easily fall prey to that sort of treatment. But if you are a genuine person, with ability and intellect, then you're a lot less likely to be crushed by someone who hurts people without regard. This is why the stunt chicks turning the tables on him is so effective in stripping Stuntman Mike of his badarsery: he can't function in his role as heedless giver of pain, and behind that, there's just a scared old manchild.

I liked this more than I expected to, ten minutes in. I was shocked and horrified by the first crash. My palms were sweating leading up to the attack in the second round, and when the turn comes in the action, I suddenly liked this film. I was LMAO at the final scene. It's just so overdone that it's funny. Mind you, I'd seen that scene as a gif and was sickened, but in context, with the stop-motion and the incredible over-the-top of it... hilarious!

Liked the soundtrack a lot too, and "Chick Habit" was the ultimate end titles track:
hang up the chick habit
hang it up, daddy,
a girl's not a tonic or a pill
hang up the chick habit
hang it up, daddy,
you're just jonesing for a spill

oh, how your bubble's gonna burst
when you meet another nurse
she'll be driving in a hearse

you're gonna need a heap of glue
when they all catch up with you...

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