It is by logic we prove, it is by intuition we discover
Henry Poincaré
[And vice-versa
]
Originally Posted by 7thson
I did love going to school though and taking all those philosophy, religion, logic, etc... classes. I remember telling myself I refuse to be bored in College so I would do something I liked. Well the degree did not get me much, but I sure had fun earning it. I take that back, it did help me get a couple of early stripes in the Army.
Hey, you got army stripes? I just got to wipe old people's bums on leaving Uni
.
Yeah, i'm with you on the 'i refuse to be bored thing' - even if sometimes my 'excitement' was just apoplectic rage at the thought processes of philosophers
- overall tho i'm damn glad i studied some of the hardcore 'thinkers', coz they made me think in a way which is not my preference, and balanced me out a bit more as a result. (Hard to tell sometimes i know - but i could be far less logical
).
Originally Posted by 7thson
One day I will tell you about my philosophy paper on figuring women out. I only got a B+ and darnit I know it would have been an A if my teacher had been a man.
Heheheheh
. Women are just, like, so illogical
*runs far far away....*
*and then misses sex*
.............................
Originally Posted by SamsoniteDelila
Hmm... the quote here is a nice point.
The one about the self interests me, because I like hearing how people percieve the self, and especially when it pertains to the concept of "other" (than the self), but daaaang, those words wouldn't sort.
The amount of time it takes to get their 'take' on the world isn't always worth the effort - these types of hard-core concept-tinkerers are often just a bunch of silly old men
.
The quote seems to represent an argument from the
a priori (prior to analysis of 'external' facts) school of thought, which tries to figure things out purely with reference to 'obvious' logics about life. (Basically these guys spent their time ramming themselves up their own arse - but they learnt the odd thing along the way. Like, when not to light fires, and how to chew the fat
).
The ideas the quote is wrestling with are things like: is everything 'physical'/is the mind 'spiritual'; what can we actually know; will my name be inflated beyond the stars if i blow hard enough
Kant was the king of those guys, and in some ways, all you need to know about him is that he separated the universe into knowable things (phenomena) and unknowable things (noumena)... and then he tried to tell everyone what 'noumena' were like
Nah, fair play to the man. Just like my philosophy professor, i understand him not at all, and yet i feel he makes some sense.
But what i love most about those uber-'logical'
a priori guys is that they accidently reveal a lot about the subjective way their minds worked, and so you learn something about your/our own minds by default.