The MoFo Top Film Noir Countdown - Preliminary Thread

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11-04-23

Just a note, I presume many use IMDB search by genre...
Key Largo (1948) is not marked as Film-Noir there but Wikipedia says it is.

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LAMb EELYAK

The First Kaiju

11-04-23

It's listed as Film-Noir in the middle of the IMDb page between the Taglines and Certificate sections.

KeyserCorleone

Registered User

11-04-23

Originally Posted by Citizen Rules

I'm not sure if I follow what you are saying? Can you elaborate?

What if someone wants to vote for a movie that can't be found online except in color? Since color's allowed anyway, it doesn't really matter, though.

Citizen Rules

Noir Time

11-04-23

Originally Posted by KeyserCorleone

What if someone wants to vote for a movie that can't be found online except in color? Since color's allowed anyway, it doesn't really matter, though.

Yeah it wouldn't matter. Though personally I wouldn't watch any of those YouTube colorized versions, ugh.

John W Constantine

Alias: John Utah

11-04-23

Originally Posted by KeyserCorleone

What if someone wants to vote for a movie that can't be found online except in color? Since color's allowed anyway, it doesn't really matter, though.

Just lie.

Diehl40

Registered User

11-04-23

This site has links to numerous Film noir movies. Many on our watch list and many that are not.

Last edited by Diehl40; 03-07-24 at 04:17 PM.

Citizen Rules

Noir Time

11-04-23

Originally Posted by Diehl40

This sight has links to numerous Film noir movies. Many on our watch list and many that are not.

Thanks Diehl! Some good noirs on there, many that are not well known. Two of them I had previously nominated in an HoF Detective Story (1951) and Picture Snatcher (1933). Obviously Picture Snatcher doesn't qualify for the countdown....BUT if we ever do a Pre Hays Code Countdown then that movie is aces!

Thief

Master of None

11-05-23

Originally Posted by SpelingError

Here's some films which will be in contention of making my ballot:

Ace in the Hole (1951)
The Asphalt Jungle (1950)
The Bigamist (1953)
The Big Sleep (1946)
The Big Heat (1953)
Crossfire (1947)
The Fallen Idol (1948)
Gun Crazy (1950)
The Killers (1946)
The Lady from Shanghai (1947)
The Lost Weekend (1945)
Mildred Pierce (1945)
Murder, My Sweet (1944)
Notorious (1946)
Odd Man Out (1947)
The Phenix City Story (1955)
The Postman Always Rings Twice (1946)
Rebecca (1940)
The Stranger (1946)
Sweet Smell of Success (1957)
They Live By Night (1948)
The Third Man (1949)

Great list. I've seen Rebecca listed as noir here and there, but I've never thought of it as such, I dunno. Same with The Bigamist.

KeyserCorleone

Registered User

11-05-23

I won't be voting for Rebecca as I don't feel it's noir enough for the place, but I have to say that Rebecca is better than any noir movie I've seen so far.

SpelingError

AKA Popcorn Reviews

11-05-23

Originally Posted by Thief

Great list. I've seen Rebecca listed as noir here and there, but I've never thought of it as such, I dunno. Same with The Bigamist.

IMDb lists both as noir, so I'll likely just go off of that when assembling my list.

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SpelingError

AKA Popcorn Reviews

11-05-23

Also, thanks to CR for focusing the list on film noir and not on noir in general. That way, neo noir films won't dominate the list.

KeyserCorleone

Registered User

11-05-23

Originally Posted by SpelingError

Also, thanks to CR for focusing the list on film noir and not on noir in general. That way, neo noir films won't dominate the list.

This also creates the possibility that, in the event that later we do a combo list, that we'll have plenty of people already having healthy experience in classic noir to help match it.

GulfportDoc

Registered User

11-05-23

Originally Posted by Wyldesyde19

Good list.
But�..All the Kings Men? That�s considered noir? Didn�t seem like it to
me.

You're right. ATKM is not a noir. The tendency for many classifiers is to consider any black and white crime film from the '40s is a noir. That's way off. "King's Men" is a semi-biographical political drama. Good film, but not a noir.

GulfportDoc

Registered User

11-05-23

Originally Posted by mrblond

Just a note, I presume many use IMDB search by genre...
Key Largo (1948) is not marked as Film-Noir there but Wikipedia says it is.

No, I can't see it as a noir. Really good landmark film, especially for Bogart, but it has no noir elements. Just a good crime film.

Citizen Rules

Noir Time

11-05-23

I just updated the second post with some very useful noir links that you guys mentioned....Take a look at some of those. There's podcast, book list, youtube noir movie links, specific kind of noir movie links and a link or two for online sites about noir movies and the nature of noir.

KeyserCorleone

Registered User

11-05-23

Originally Posted by GulfportDoc

No, I can't see it as a noir. Really good landmark film, especially for Bogart, but it has no noir elements. Just a good crime film.

You really can't trust wikipedia with tagging. They'll take any mistag that's popular among would-be movie buffs who really just watch what's cool. It's like people calling ACDC hair metal.

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