Kathy Griffin's Head

Can you really say "you either accept majority vote or you don't" in defence of a candidate who lost the popular vote? That's without getting into the idea that "the man can do no right, no matter what he does" because it disregards the possibility that he really is doing everything wrong because he is so grossly incompetent due to a variety of factors such as political inexperience, unsuitable temperament, and poor choice of advisers. The idea of him automatically deserving unquestioning respect simply because he's in a position that has always earned respect by default is also a dangerous one that doesn't sound particularly democratic either.

Despite the fact that a lot of people are condemning Kathy Griffin right now, I feel like one day in the future, there's gonna be a Forrest Gump reboot, and Forrest is gonna find himself at Kathy Griffin's press conference and he's gonna hand her a tissue.

Like people are gonna look back at this event one day and see this as a revolutionary moment where Kathy Griffin made it all possible for people to prance around with fake severed heads of the President and nobody's gonna judge you. That's what I see happening in the future.

I thought American presidents were elected by electoral college and always have been? So the system is now not valid somehow because Trump won?

Nobody does everything wrong 100% of the time just like no one does everything right 100% either. I'm not saying he deserves unquestioning respect but I don't think he deserved to be trashed 100% of the time either before he is even given a chance. Seems to me Obama got unquestioning respect and I am still scratching my head at why the hell someone gave him the Nobel Peace prize?

I really just want you all angry and confused the whole time.

Is that really Sexy?

I've never heard of Little Richard

I thought American presidents were elected by electoral college and always have been? So the system is now not valid somehow because Trump won?

I daresay it's always been a flawed system but it's taken something this flagrant to call attention to its flaws. In any case, having a select group of individuals be the ones to elect the president instead of the population as a whole still sounds like it's considerably different to the conventional concept of democracy anyway.

Also, it's been four-and-a-half months since Trump took office. He's had more than enough chances to earn the respect of people outside his core groups of voters, but so many of his actions have ranged from the superficially embarrassing to the genuinely dangerous, whether it's the things that he does on his own or the things that he allows to happen. If you think that Obama got unquestioning respect in comparison, flick back a few pages and look at the pictures.

I would have thought if American's wanted a different system, they would have changed it long ago. Seems to me the system is only questioned when what the press deem an unsuitable candidate turns up.

4 months doesn't seem like much time to prove or disprove anything.

Woooooooooooooo!!!!!

Kathy Griffin does not belong in a psych ward for her stunt and for her press conference. I think that Kathy Griffin is a victim, in a way, but she's not a victim of Trump and people who she thinks are out to get her.

She's a victim of the whole mentality going around that being as nasty as possible about Trump is cool. That it's fine, that it's okay, to do or say whatever you want about him. But of course, at the same time, Trump takes to his Twitter as well to unleash nastiness on others, so it is going around everywhere. It's a climate of ugliness. But - it doesn't start and end with Trump.

I believe she was saying her photographer liked the whole idea of "beheading Trump" in the picture - excuse me, photographer... why are you pushing Kathy into this? This may be coming from the imagination of Kathy, but I think the reason she cooked it up is simply because she believed it was safe to turn the oven on at that high of a temperature. And she does live in a kind of bubble, I think - the bubble that is her celebrityhood and the feeling that she needs to stay relevant, stay shocking, stay in the game.

I think that her stunt is a reflection of our society. So is her press conference and running around boo-hooing and crying and calling herself a victim. Here she emulates our nation's newest neverending pest, the eternal victim Hillary Clinton, ghoulishly popping out of everyone's closet at 3 A.M. to remind us that she lost the presidency and it isn't her fault! She was a victim of everything else you can think of. A victim of misogyny. Of men. Of other people. Everybody but herself.

Seems to me the system is only questioned when what the press deem an unsuitable candidate turns up.

Actually, the system has been questioned every time when the president won the electoral college, but lost the popular vote. It's just that it happened only twice in recent history and 5 times altogether.
It caused a huge stir in 2000 and even bigger one in 2016. The bigger outrage was because of a bigger disproportion of popular votes lost when comparing 2000 with 2016. In 2000 the president that won the electoral college lost by 540,000 votes. Last year the president that won the electoral college lost by 2.9 million votes. That is A LOT more when compared to 2000. Of course there are other issues that caused many people to lose their minds from some that might have been internationally known (Russia hacking) to others that in my opinion are a lot more serious but most likely did not reach the international news (gerrymandering, redistricting, etc..).

And yet no one has seriously considered changing the system yet. I'll give you my hunch -- they won't.

Their son was watching at the time and thought his dad was dead.

Until the electoral system is abolished we will still have a very abysmal voter turnout and a much weaker democracy than we'd like to think we have.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_turnout