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The argument of, "show me 3 cases..." is kind of humorous. Every single empire in history has already fallen, with the exception of the current empires, with or without religion. Entropy happens more because of political problems and attrition, than religious problems. Actually, I think the longest lived Empire may be the Roman Catholic Church. That argument has no merit as far as I'm concerned. I'm not a religious person, though I used to be, and I believe that there are benifits with having a culture that does have faith, but there are also some negative aspects to it as well. Why must every idea for freedom have it's double edged sword? I respect people who believe in doG, if it helps them. If they become better people because of it, then I have much respect. But I tire of the a-typical hypocrite that spends their energies trying to convert me, when all I feel is contempt for them as individuals. My step-mother is a christian, and I have never met anyone more judgemental in all my life. I don't think religion is dying, and I don't think it will. It is now an instict to have faith for most people. I see digression in attitudes in our young, that was not rampart in the 1950's. But in the 50s, kids did not have unalienable rights, now they do. No matter what choices we make, there will always be reprocussions. And Omega, most religions have been founded with the blood of the unbelievers. Catholics and Christians, and Moslems have all had their holy wars throughout history. I think that a lot of people have gained more rights because the hold that religion has had in the government has slowly eroded. It's far from gone, obviously, but it is less.