The relevancy of the Catholic Church

But wasn't the Old Testament was written (and, I believe, formalisd) centuries before Jesus was born. So he couldn't have endorsed it?

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In most Christian sects it is said the Holy Ghost, Jesus, and God are all one. SO therefore Old and New is from the same prescriptive. But sects exist that say it's all separate, in which case you can make the argument, but it's practically the same God, IMO

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That doesn't explain why you took a shot at Catholicism in the next post. That was unprovoked.

Can't believe it took you, like, nine posts to admit the initial statement was a massive exaggeration, but I'll take it. Thanks.

Glad you admit this. So maybe stop telling Christians why they do the things they do, yeah? It's both condescending and inaccurate.

Based on what, exactly? All the attempts to found a system of government around the rejection of religion have ended in bloodbaths. And I wonder if you appreciate the immensity of this claim, historically: that the thing we've been basing our morals in as far back as we have records is suddenly just discardable. And not just discardable, but obviously so! So stop what you're doing, everyone: a 15 year old kid on the Internet who admits to not understanding religion has totally figured out how to restructure society without it. I hope someone's writing this down.

There's also the simple problem that what you're proposing is fundamentally irrational. The idea of unalienable rights logically necessitates the invocation of a higher power. Otherwise, you're dealing with a purely pragmatic social contract. The founders understood this, even though adolescent skeptics almost never do.

None of which contradicts or relates meaningfully to what we were discussing, which was the tendency of atheists to misrepresent the situation and then act shocked and confused when confronted by the actual history.

This response makes no sense: I asked you a question about your own words. The dodging is getting really transparent, guy.


Interesting that you "move on" by pretending you never said it and admitting no error.

Stop messing around. If you want to ostensibly discuss serious topics, then give serious replies.

So you didn't pick a fight, even though you're now saying you deliberately wanted to start a conversation on Christianity provoking violence. Right.

I find them in poor taste, especially attached to posts where you're attacking the religion in question.

As one who was raised within the sphere of Catholicism (christened and confirmed), I find myself more and more at odds with the Church's doctrines and ideas...I feel as though I can no longer appreciate the theology for it's metaphorical lessons...And the Church's vehement charge of diminution of people's responsibility for personal and social sin seems to not apply to the Church itself...funny that.

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