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I am posting this because it would make me commit to not post here anymore. I decided to leave this forum though I also know that I should have done so far earlier, like 18 months ago. The reasons are very simple: people here have different interests and sensibilities than mine in general. While I love Hollywood movies I also love other mediums and other art forms such as animation (which I wrote quite a lot about) which most people here have no serious interest in (watching a couple Pixar movies does not make you a fan of animation, in fact, I would say that watching a hundred late night anime shows is a basic requirement for anyone to claim be a fan of the medium the same way that watching several hundred Hollywood movies is a requirement for anyone who claims to be a film buff).

Overall I would say that participating in this forum was a pain. It negatively affected my own personal life, given the time I wasted here and the nerves I burned while fighting with other people here. For instance, I am wasting my time writing this post instead of actually working on my research or actually enjoying my free time.

Comments like Jiraffe's "your taste in live action is much better than in animation" are infuriating for the simple reason that he doesn't have significant knowledge of the field of animation in the first place. One thing about popular perception of anime is that differently from a field such as European art film, it lacks the aura of respect that people ignorant about the field have, as result people who lack any experience with the medium easily dismiss it and easily shout ignorant offensive comments to all works within it's spectrum "poorly written RPG", saying that is less precise than saying that all American movies are "poorly written comic book adaptations" (which is actually true for most recent commercial successes) and all European movies are "masturbatory exercises of it's directors" (actually true for most of those films who win the Cannes). Or when Raul said "it's garbage" without actually saying anything of substance, anything that's interesting but still positioning himself as if he knew anything. Something that honestly makes me want to punch people in the face. Given that I cannot adequately express myself through the internet such remarks left me with a unfulfilled desire of retaliation. I am a extremely aggressive and stubborn person, if I were more emotionally balanced I would naturally not even talk about it here (like Jal90 who is an animation fan but knows that here is not the place to talk about the medium and hence doesn't waste his time here, smart decision and one I should have made before). Tastes are subjective but there is something called understanding and I noticed people here in general do not have a clue about anime, even the more basic mainstream stuff like Miyazaki's work.

While I posted a huge deal about the medium I had very little effective feedback and substantive discussion. The anime titles I nominated for the Hall of Fame all tanked even though they are all extremely well respected by it's fans (they are as popular relatively as the most popular Hollywood movies nominated such as Psycho and Dr. Strangelove, which of course, were in the first places). Of course, this is a forum that unites people who like what's the popular perception of film is, that is, Hollywood's products and a couple of the most popular non-english European and Japanese titles, so that's what people here are likely to love. And I was stupid in not understanding that or refusing to understand such obvious fact. I don't like to offend people but fact is that most of you (but not all!) are extremely ignorant people whose field of vision is so limited it makes me depressed (as zotis said to me "mainstream idiots"). Mark F, who is worshiped here, for instance, watched every single piece of garbage hollywood has made 5 times over and refuses to move out of his little hole being completely ignorant of most of the world's artistic mediums, although he is old so juvenile stuff like games and anime is not in his taste palette but english language literature for instance, is an extremely conservative alternative to watching every single piece of garbage that comes out of hollywood over and over again is not even explored. Or when the forum's owner claimed (that was 2 years ago) it is perfectly natural to only list hollywood films as favorites and even tries to justify it while being completely ignorant of the stuff existing outside of the little world of hollywood. Yes little because hollywood only makes 150 movies a year (considering only the ones that cost over 1 million dollars made by the big studios and not indie movies nobody knows about), or 300 hours of film. That's very little stuff, even anime (which is also small compared to manga or english language literature) alone is way larger with 150 series made per year (which also cost over a million dollars each) or about 1500 hours of animation, and in fact, more diverse in many ways given the less restrictive broad demographic pandering it needs to be profitable it can focus on more specific interests and hence fulfill those interests in a better fashion. Over the past two decades anime and videogames have been far more active in artistic innovation than hollywood and far more interesting as well, producing greater artistic value. But it's ok, even if you want to restrict yourself to hollywood you don't need to be a complete ***** and spout ******** about fields you have no knowledge in (in fact, Mr. Minio constant joking with tentacle hentai is also indicative of his ignorance and lack of respect for something he has no clue about, also his constant teasing with my hobby of animation is also disappointing and infuriating).

I am sorry if I offended anyone but given this is my last post here I have no cost in being honest since I don't need to be polite. While I think this is a good forum in terms of basic "design" the people here made it an extremely agonizing experience for me Goodbye *******, not wasting time of my life here anymore, 5 thousand posts worth about a thousand pages of text has been enough!

P.S. I am obviously not participating in the music hall of fame even though the nominations appeared to be interesting. Also, it's obvious that my nomination would tank like always since I have completely different tastes compared to anybody else here.
OK I started reading this to get some sense of why you are still carrying on. I got as far as

I dont like to offend but the fact is most of you (but notn all) are extremely ignorant people.

Wow Guapo. That is highly offensive. Take those tickets off yourself,
lad. I like watchin g chefs who travel arou d the world because travel and cooking are my hobbies. No way in hell would I even think, let alone say people are ignorant for not watching them. man, you're a bit of a bruiser when it comes to not liking offending people. Far out. Just shaking my head.



movies can be okay...
How is One Piece not finished yet? Damn.
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I dont think guap is always the most professional in his posts but I dont think its fair to call him ignorant when you said you hate anime and manga "with a vengeance" based off a couple of mangas that clearly didn't suit your tastes
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Oh my god. They're trying to claim another young victim with the foreign films.



How is One Piece not finished yet? Damn.
I thought they were pretty much done when Zayn left?



OK I started reading this to get some sense of why you are still carrying on. I got as far as

I dont like to offend but the fact is most of you (but not all) are extremely ignorant people.

Wow Guapo. That is highly offensive. Take those tickets off yourself,
lad.
I don't think that's offensive. It's a correct statement. Most of us (people in general) are stupendously ignorant.

There's a lot of truth to many of the points Guap is making. Most people are incurious creatures that prefer to live inside the safe bubble they've always known, as a voluntary slave of their biases and prejudices.

He just doesn't realize that he's also one of those creatures, in his own way. Just like I am in my own way and others are in theirs.

The most ignorant person is he who thinks of himself as the only one who's not ignorant.
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I dont think guap is always the most professional in his posts but I dont think its fair to call him ignorant when you said you hate anime and manga "with a vengeance" based off a couple of mangas that clearly didn't suit your tastes
I don't care anyway. But it's incredible how easy hate can be stocked here. I was just having a lash out back in 2014 when I was a very different person and she decided to dig that now.



@Cobbyth-kun Thanks for the insult oh great open minded philosopher who called fans of Japanese visual culture freaks.
Please point me to the place where he said this.



Please point me to the place where he said this.
With pleasure.

He said that in a thread about Miyazaki retiring. After that "conversation" he started to hate my guts.

Anyway, it will take some searching to find that since he said that in July 2013. He characterized animation fans as freaks twice back then actually.



I see your memory is not as good as mine. July 2013 on a threat about Miyazaki-sama you also used the same word earlier when talking about Madoka calling people for which the show was made "freaks"



Here - https://www.movieforums.com/communit...738#post955738

To me it seems like he is using "freaks" to mean very devoted fans particularly when he uses it again on the next page here but maybe i'm wrong.
Yep. Just read it back myself. Guap conveniently chose not to give the context.

"Anime freak" is something many huge Anime fans call themselves.

Freak - "A person who is obsessed with a particular activity or interest."