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Bateman never killed anybody. The whole thing was a figment of his imagination. How many rounds did he have in his pistol? How many times have you seen a car blow up like that from getting shot at? And how accurate was he?

No, it was all in his head. That's why, IMHO, he was a psycho.

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Originally posted by bigvalbowski
The only exception to this rule was the killing of Jared Leto's character. Leto was a guy who he socialised with and yet he seemingly killed him. However, we find out later that Leto is alive and well. He's been sighted in London. WTF? But we saw the murder. Again, Bateman's imagination. Subconsciously Bateman knew that Leto was leaving for London, however the insane Bateman didn't know it. He's still a psychopath, even if the evil Bateman is very much a controlled animal.
One could theorize that Leto's character wasn't in London at all. We're merely told by someone else that he had lunch with Leto's character. But it's a running theme throughout the film that the yuppies all look alike and are often mistaken for one another (Bateman is mistaken for someone else in that very scene). It could be that Leto's character really is dead and someone else that is assumed to be Leto's character is in London.

(I didn't read the book, so I'm just going on the movie).



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It's really very simple, as many people have said. Bateman is a nobody in a confused world in which his life means nothing. Hence the constant problems over identitfy amongst a group of people who define their lives by the quality of their business cards (a wonderful scene). Bateman pretends to kill to take the frustration out of his life, and it takes over his life to the extent that he begins to believe it's real. But it's obviously not - look at the way his gun never needs reloading, the chainsaw hits its mark, and the way the police car explodes - they are ridiculous deaths, which confuse him as much as the audience. When he realises that it's all in his head, then he can understand why there has been no catharsis for him - he remains in his compartmentalised life, unfulfilled, despite the women, drugs, and money. Fantastic film, great performances all round, and very brave of a woman to make such a male-dominated film.



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Hmmmm...the first time I saw "American Psycho" on DVD with a couple of my friends,we were real confused about the ending.I had NO clue at all what the ending about.It left me stumped and totally unsatisfied.I thought to myself-"What a waste of $5.This is probably to most stupidest movie I've taken." .I had read all the reviews that Bale was very good.I agree he was good.But the plot was loose and disconnected.

Now after reading this thread,I am beginning to wonder and understand what the movie was about.Well I guess my $5 is saved now.

Thanx a lot guys.I guess the movie isnt so stupid after all.
But they should've worked on the plot better.

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Anyone read about American Psycho 2?

Thats right, they are making an American Psycho 2. It's going straight to video!

It's going to star that chic from That 70's Show. Not the redhead, but the other one. It takes place like 10 years later, and has no characters from the first movie.

Heres a link about it:
http://www.upcomingmovies.com/americanpsycho2.html
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I'd heard that. I have to say, my first reaction was "Stupid." It's a non-sequel sequel, if you get my meaning. They're piggy-backing on the first one's success.



By the way, Ain't It Cool News has a review of part of the American Psycho 2 script on the website right now (and, I will also note that some of the TalkBackers claim that Bret Easton Ellis and Mary Herron say there isn't supposed to be ambiguity regarding whether Bateman killed folks or not - that he did kill people, and it wasn't in his head. I haven't read said interviews, so I don't know).



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Originally posted by ryanpaige


The lawyer saying he had dinner with Paul Allen overseas could mean two different things. One, it could mean that the killings were all a figment of Bale's imagination. Or since all those Wall Street Types look alike (a running theme in the movie is that Bale's character is confused with someone else), the lawyer had dinner with someone he thought to be Paul Allen, but wasn't.

I think the whole point of the film is that you don't know whether the killings were real or not.
That my friend is why this movie is pure solid genius. I loved the movie despite what people may say. It functions sort of like Fight Club except there are no two characters that you can 'see', just Bateman. The movie is stylish, violent and intelligent -- just the right flavor for my tastes. I actually laughed at the killing and that drawing of the chainsawed girl he was doodling on the restaurant dining table lol!!!

and yeah, the card scene was great.

Definitely a good flick, recommended for people who like movies that make you think.
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This film takes Fight Club and mops the floor with it, even though I do indeed love Fight Club.

My initial thoughts:

There was something that niggled at me throughout AMERICAN PSYCHO and it wasn't until it ended that I realised what it was. The film is ironic and caustic and cynical and cold, and is based on a work of contemporary American fiction [the most ironic and caustic and cynical and cold fiction on the planet] by Bret Easton Ellis. It was made one year after FIGHT CLUB (1999), which is ironic and caustic and cynical and cold, and is based on a work of contemporary American fiction by Chuck Palahniuk. Like FIGHT CLUB it is violent and spiteful and about the trappings of materialism and the culture that it has bred. The thing that niggled at me throughout AMERICAN PSYCHO is that when compared to FIGHT CLUB this film actually takes the subject matter and makes it work.

Don't get me wrong. I love FIGHT CLUB as pure anarchy and I believe that it is visually brilliant, wonderfully performed and masterfully directed. However, and you may call me crazy, but I believe that the source material for FIGHT CLUB just plain sucks. It tries to be something metaphysical. The whole Tyler Durden being a construct of the narrator is all very good and well but it is cliché and overused, and to me just typifies the risk of post modern cinema becoming old hat. Wow. They're the same person. Now tell the story backwards or some **** like that...

AMERICAN PSYCHO doesn't need an acrobatic plot to make its point. All it needs is a lead character that embodies corporate evil, allows it to destroy him, tries to redeem himself when he thinks he may be in trouble, and then realises that in this world, he doesn't have to. The narrator in FIGHT CLUB saves himself and Marla from Tyler Durden and Project Mayhem and there is hope. Patrick Bateman tells us at the end of AMERICAN PSYCHO that "this confession means nothing". And the human race is without hope. The ending to AMERICAN PSYCHO is true to life. Patrick Bateman can get away with murder. He doesn't have to redeem himself.

The cast list of AMERICAN PSYCHO is wonderful. Christian Bale. Willem Dafoe. Jared Leto. Justin Theroux. Reese. Each actor is used to the utmost of their abilities, and each is aided by some of the best writing of the late nineties. The coldness of AMERICAN PSYCHO, the cynical warmth of AMERICAN BEAUTY (1999), and the unbridled emotion of MAGNOLIA (1999) are three prime examples of why the late nineties (and early naughties) was one of the best periods for American screenwriters, and by association American cinema, of the last ten years. AMERICAN PSYCHO is nothing more than a collection of progressively insane scenes and sadistic/informative monologues, and yet it provides its players with pure gold time and time again. My personal favourite scene of the movie involves Justin Theroux and Christian Bale when they are in a bathroom at a club doing cocaine in a stall. A guy sticks his head over the top of the next stall over and says, "Will you guys shut the **** up? I'm trying to do drugs!" It is this sort of thing that not only fuels the heightening insanity of the film and provides the actors with magnificent scenes to play in, but rings true to the essence of the film. No one is trying to claim their dignity in AMERICAN PSYCHO, there are no laughable monologues about "farming maize on abandoned super highways" like there are in FIGHT CLUB. Just crazy mother****ers living life to the excess, doing coke in stalls, killing people, listening to Phil Collins, and becoming increasingly detached from reality. The characters aren't trying to pull themselves back from the brink in AMERICAN PSYCHO because they don't want to. Tyler Durden hates his world. Patrick Bateman loves his. And if the goal is to isolate the audience by showing them themselves, then showing them Patrick Bateman is the better option. We don't want to stop being consumers. We want to keep on buying. We want to keep killing. Each of us is our own little American psycho and each of our confessions mean absolutely nothing.
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I agree. Fight Club is a spiritual movie for men, American Psycho doesn't give a **** about spirituality. It's a wonderful film. Both of them are.

Haven't seen the sequel, though. I wonder what it's like, with the femme fatale perspective.



I haven't seen Fight Club (probably cos I'm not a Pitt fan) but American Psycho flawed me. Absolutely brilliant! Christian Bale portrayed this to the max. I'm not too sure on the sequel, as sequels go, they can suck bad... I hope this won't be the case.



Originally posted by Fox
I haven't seen Fight Club (probably cos I'm not a Pitt fan)
I was gonna yell at you, but then I realized that the less amount of Pitt fans, the closer he is to me, after Jennifer is hypnotized and falls in love with Lyle Lovett, ala Julia Roberts.

I swear I saw Brad and Jennifer driving through Manassas, where I live, in late 2001! Why didn't I grab the steering wheel my sister was holding onto and crash into their car?!



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american psycho is better in general



Originally posted by Sexy Celebrity


I was gonna yell at you, but then I realized that the less amount of Pitt fans, the closer he is to me, after Jennifer is hypnotized and falls in love with Lyle Lovett, ala Julia Roberts.


SC you crack me up....
I did see Snatch tho... light humour that made me chuckle in parts.



Christian Bale should have won an Oscar for this or at the very least been nominated (but I think he should most definitely have won!)



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That is awesome!

I just rewatched AP a couple of weeks ago, after reading an interview with BE Ellis. He said that at the time, the film was attacked by some women for mysogeny, and he classified that attack as "retarded". Having rewatched it with that in mind, I completely agree with him.
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