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I actually don't believe that Trump is a convert. It's a front to win over the Christian voters, especially the Evangelicals. Trump isn't even really a conservative, going by my understanding of the definition, but he plays one on television.
Has the world gone mad?
Regarding Trump as a recent pillar of Christian values... be wary of False Profits.
Except for on this forum, I've never seen Trump referred to as a christian.
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Except for on this forum, I've never seen Trump referred to as a christian.
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Regarding Trump as a recent pillar of Christian values... be wary of False Profits.
In the final election, Christians, like everyone else, weren't given much choice - about the worst two candidates possible.
But why they chose Trump over a bevy of other conservative Republican candidates is beyond me. My guess is that people were just tired of liberal Democrat policies and Trump seemed to be the extreme in the opposite direction.
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Yes. Don Schneider may have a point about Christians being forgiving, but I doubt any view Trump as born again or even a Prodigal Son returning to the fold (Christians aren't THAT stupid).
In the final election, Christians, like everyone else, weren't given much choice - about the worst two candidates possible.
But why they chose Trump over a bevy of other conservative Republican candidates is beyond me. My guess is that people were just tired of liberal Democrat policies and Trump seemed to be the extreme in the opposite direction.
In the final election, Christians, like everyone else, weren't given much choice - about the worst two candidates possible.
But why they chose Trump over a bevy of other conservative Republican candidates is beyond me. My guess is that people were just tired of liberal Democrat policies and Trump seemed to be the extreme in the opposite direction.
My invitation above still stands
People here do actually believe he is born again. That may be mostly in the older generation (60+), but it is a real thing.
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That group voted partly because he was an outsider for them to 'drain the swamp.' They also believed Obama is a Muslim, born in Kenya, sworn to undermine the American way. A photo-op in prayer was all that was needed to convince the Florida pan-handle and surrounding rural areas. I think the vote was in reaction to how they felt the country was moving. I can't speak for all, but I know those were huge factors here.
hm. I keep rereading this post and I can't stop feeling as though I'm being judgmental or antagonistic. I really am only speaking from my observations in area trends and day-to-day conversations that I've been a part of for the past several years. If this reply is out of line, or too far off topic please let me know. I'll probably continue to refine the text as I get time throughout the day.....
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My invitation above still stands
People here do actually believe he is born again. That may be mostly in the older generation (60+), but it is a real thing.
*EDIT*
That group voted partly because he was an outsider for them to 'drain the swamp.' They also believed Obama is a Muslim, born in Kenya, sworn to undermine the American way. A photo-op in prayer was all that was needed to convince the Florida pan-handle and surrounding rural areas. I think the vote was in reaction to how they felt the country was moving. I can't speak for all, but I know those were huge factors here.
People here do actually believe he is born again. That may be mostly in the older generation (60+), but it is a real thing.
*EDIT*
That group voted partly because he was an outsider for them to 'drain the swamp.' They also believed Obama is a Muslim, born in Kenya, sworn to undermine the American way. A photo-op in prayer was all that was needed to convince the Florida pan-handle and surrounding rural areas. I think the vote was in reaction to how they felt the country was moving. I can't speak for all, but I know those were huge factors here.
*EDIT* Obama WAS a Muslim. at least during his childhood, there is still some evidence that he MAY have been born in Kenya, and he did undermine the American way.
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My invitation above still stands
People here do actually believe he is born again. That may be mostly in the older generation (60+), but it is a real thing.
*EDIT*
That group voted partly because he was an outsider for them to 'drain the swamp.' They also believed Obama is a Muslim, born in Kenya, sworn to undermine the American way. A photo-op in prayer was all that was needed to convince the Florida pan-handle and surrounding rural areas. I think the vote was in reaction to how they felt the country was moving. I can't speak for all, but I know those were huge factors here.
hm. I keep rereading this post and I can't stop feeling as though I'm being judgmental or antagonistic. I really am only speaking from my observations in area trends and day-to-day conversations that I've been a part of for the past several years. If this reply is out of line, or too far off topic please let me know. I'll probably continue to refine the text as I get time throughout the day.....
People here do actually believe he is born again. That may be mostly in the older generation (60+), but it is a real thing.
*EDIT*
That group voted partly because he was an outsider for them to 'drain the swamp.' They also believed Obama is a Muslim, born in Kenya, sworn to undermine the American way. A photo-op in prayer was all that was needed to convince the Florida pan-handle and surrounding rural areas. I think the vote was in reaction to how they felt the country was moving. I can't speak for all, but I know those were huge factors here.
hm. I keep rereading this post and I can't stop feeling as though I'm being judgmental or antagonistic. I really am only speaking from my observations in area trends and day-to-day conversations that I've been a part of for the past several years. If this reply is out of line, or too far off topic please let me know. I'll probably continue to refine the text as I get time throughout the day.....
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...di-Arabia.html
My mum says' the world hasn't gone mad, it's some of the people in it'. ( she's a retired solicitor and has dealt with some really awful people).
This thread started with a C.S. Lewis quote and worked its way to Anton LaVey.
Fun thread.
Fun thread.
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Sure is .... I blame the declining use of imagination as children - some seem to be overcompensating by going into overdrive when adults instead.
p.s. Obama is actually Batman 'cos his name has "bam" in the middle, can't get much more proof than that can ya!
p.s. Obama is actually Batman 'cos his name has "bam" in the middle, can't get much more proof than that can ya!
Sure is .... I blame the declining use of imagination as children - some seem to be overcompensating by going into overdrive when adults instead.
Good call....and like you said on your Twitter account, this is just the Terrorist thread redressed, with the same group, graffiting the same message on the walls of MoFo.
*EDIT* Obama WAS a Muslim. at least during his childhood, there is still some evidence that he MAY have been born in Kenya, and he did undermine the American way.
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What's the big deal anyway? After divorcing Barry's biological father (a non-practicing Muslim from Kenya) his mom married another Muslim man from Indonesia, moved to Indonesia and Barry was raised in a Muslim family setting and immersed in the country's Islamic faith for a few years. So what?
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What part are you questioning? Okay, I guess you could argue that a child can't have a religion if they don't have the mental maturity to understand religion (which would mean that all children only have religious affiliation in name only as assigned by their parents - which was the case with Obama on his school records in Indonesia). Can we at least agree that Barry was raised Muslim when living in Indonesia with his Muslim step-father? His relatives & neighbors attest that he and his family attended mosque - perhaps not in a devout fashion, but attend they did.
What's the big deal anyway? After divorcing Barry's biological father (a non-practicing Muslim from Kenya) his mom married another Muslim man from Indonesia, moved to Indonesia and Barry was raised in a Muslim family setting and immersed in the country's Islamic faith for a few years. So what?
What's the big deal anyway? After divorcing Barry's biological father (a non-practicing Muslim from Kenya) his mom married another Muslim man from Indonesia, moved to Indonesia and Barry was raised in a Muslim family setting and immersed in the country's Islamic faith for a few years. So what?