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I meant that I don't mind Nolan explaining pretty much everything through explanatory dialogue, but I can see why it botters other people.
Nolan just often seems to be a little too self-serious and melodramatic for my tastes. I personally prefer it when wisdoms in movies are served cold (it makes them seem more self-aware and therefore wiser).
I don't mind a few corny film quote moments now and then (I'm a fan of classic cinema, so I can't help but often love those kinds of moments), but Nolan has a tendency to go a little too far sometimes and especially in contexts that don't really seem appropriate to me.
Also, in my defense I just had 18 years old 2 months ago and I started watching movie religiously about 2 years ago. And as I watch more movie and start to learn about cinema I start to notice those little details so if I watched a movie a year ago I might not notice these little details.
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If a true cinephile were to say that then yes, I would have reason to doubt their sanity. But I figure most people who hail Nolan and his films as profound and mindblowing are simply suffering from cinematic ignorance. Which is fine, of course - the vast majority of people just don't have the level of interest in cinema that we do, and of the small sample of mainstream blockbuster directors they are likely to be exposed to, Nolan is admittedly one of the best. But that doesn't mean we need to persuade them otherwise. Just be happy in the knowledge that we know better.
But what bothers me is this vast majority of people that you just mentioned. I don't think these people are qualified to say which director is great and which isn't. I watch so many films but I know that there are so many more films that I've yet to see and it's never enough, no matter how many movies I watch per week. But these people don't seem to realize how much there is to be explored in cinema. I feel as though they convince themselves that as long as they've seen all the new releases and the mainstream stuff, they've seen everything.
I recently read a comment on YouTube (I think it was a Shutter Island trailer, or a clip from the film, I'm not sure), which said, "This film looked so good that I thought it was Nolan who made the film and not Scorsese". When someone says that, just how can you take their opinion seriously.
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I thought Nolan's (and others) switching of aspect ratios was due to using IMAX and non-IMAX cameras. Watching my Dr. Strangelove DVD, I can see that Kubrick used different aspect ratios and cut them together, but none of it bothers me.
Anyway, it was just something I suddenly noticed while watching TDKR for the first time and it did kind of bother me, because it was so purposeless.
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His movies unfortunately end up as "critic proof" to most mainstream reviewers.
I feel like Nolan is starting to go "mad with power". It used to be that he just made decent thrillers that weren't overly ambitious. Now, every single movie of his is a giant epic with a huge budget and super long run time. He needs to pace himself and show audiences that he can still make a decent movie without a giant budget.
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That may be true - I don't know - but it seems weird that someone as meticulous as Kubrick would choose to have some of his images enlarged, and thus become less distinct, in the final release print of his baby. As you know, most screens pre-Kubrick were about 1.33:1, but with the advent of widescreen photography, the new theatres built wider screens. A by-product of this is that if Dr. Strangelove was shown on a wider screen (or most screens for that matter), you'd never see the difference in the aspect ratio while watching the movie. It would show up above and below the screen. But the blown-up image would look less-clear. On a DVD, you're stuck with how they center the image, but at least it's always as sharp as intended. Another thing about different screen sizes, which may or may not be a result of different aspect ratios, is that at a theatre in the '70s, you could often see the boom mic at the top of the screen in a movie. For whatever reason, the filmmakers thought it was OK as filmed - they probably thought the film would be centered in projector so that part would actually be shown above the screen (and therefore unseen). Now, some DVDs, streams and cable movies show these films, and lo and behold, there's the boom mic. Sorry for the segue. "We now return control of your television to you."
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It's funny how people hate Christopher Nolan for no reason .... He Have minimum 3 masterpiece in bank and he got the best interpretation of ''Batman''
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It's funny how people hate Christopher Nolan for no reason .... He Have minimum 3 masterpiece in bank and he got the best interpretation of ''Batman''
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It's funny how people hate Christopher Nolan for no reason .... He Have minimum 3 masterpiece in bank and he got the best interpretation of ''Batman''
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Noone hates him and practically everyone has given plenty of valid reasons in this thread that explain why he is generally overrated.
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Here's an argument: its not a realistical picture at all. Yet it acts as if it is. The acting is atrocious, the screenplay is pathetic, and the plot is exaggerated. I mean really, four girls robbing a place so they can go on spring break. Just stupid.
And I can understand that a teenager watching the movie that more or less accusses young people of being like the characters in the movie may have that "I'm not like that! I feel offended!" feel, but sometimes when I observe my peers I don't think the movie is far from truth. There's a certain amount of rotten people among teenagers and the thing that the film exaggerates it (or not) shouldn't really be a thing to love it or hate it.
I don't like the movie because I hated the characters.
Nolan is overrated. That's true. So is Tarantino. They are both decent directors. Tarantino is much better, but also rips off everything - actually I don't care that much But hell, people watch Django and say "wow what a great idea, Tarantino is a genius! I've never seen such a western!" and they haven't seen the original Django nor any other spaghetti and think it's Tarantino's idea. -_- Then they watch Kill Bill and same thing happens, but they never seen Lady Snowblood. It's not the thing that they like Tarantino flicks, I like some of 'em myself, but the fact they're ignorant enough to think he's a genius and came up with everything himself, while in fact he rips off most of the stuff from kitsch films. But he's good, anyways.
OK let's say only Nolan is overrated. He makes alright action flicks and people who's only seen even worse action flicks cream over him. I always tell them to watch Bergman or Tarkovsky, or at least Leone, whose films or more in 'action' department (well, more than these arthouse directors, anyway) and they say it's boring and they never heard about these directors. And here comes a big facepalm. They didn't hear about 'em. They say they're boring. Never heard. Say boring. NEVER. BORING. Well, it's not easy to be more sophisticated and art-sensitive than the others. (jk) Oh wait, Nolan made a pretty good flick and it's Memento! The rest is decent at best!
The Rock is a movie I really liked back when I watched it when it was on TV a long time ago. Cage and Connery always were actors I liked and back then when I was a kid I dug this kind of action flicks. Transformers on the other hand I disliked. The Armageddon and Island are even worse.
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how can someone be overrated when he got at least 4 Masterpieces in his last 7 films ?
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I think all movies are critic proof, aren't they?
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how can someone be overrated when he got at least 4 Masterpieces in his last 7 films ? I clearly don't understand your logic
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how can someone be overrated when he got at least 4 Masterpieces in his last 7 films ? I clearly don't understand your logic
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Nolan is overrated. That's true. So is Tarantino. They are both decent directors. Tarantino is much better, but also rips off everything - actually I don't care that much But hell, people watch Django and say "wow what a great idea, Tarantino is a genius! I've never seen such a western!" and they haven't seen the original Django nor any other spaghetti and think it's Tarantino's idea. -_- Then they watch Kill Bill and same thing happens, but they never seen Lady Snowblood. It's not the thing that they like Tarantino flicks, I like some of 'em myself, but the fact they're ignorant enough to think he's a genius and came up with everything himself, while in fact he rips off most of the stuff from kitsch films. But he's good, anyways.
Nolan, on the other hand, his films are just way too empty. They're not inspired and they don't have the power to inspire. With Nolan it's an entirely different case, his avid fanbase is convinced that his films are unlike anything ever to hit the big screen, and no matter how much you try, you cannot convince them otherwise. Just look at the responses of a certain Nolan devotee here on this thread, and you'll see what I mean.
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There is no need to be condescending guyz come on.
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and he got the best interpretation of ''Batman''
how can someone be overrated when he got at least 4 Masterpieces in his last 7 films ?
I'm using it to mean fostering little or no productive dialogue between different viewpoints, in which case I'm inclined to say no.
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