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02-08-17
Originally Posted by Dani8
I wanted to burn them but I've never agreed with book burning so that made me feel bad. I offered them to a friend who wanted to read them to see what the fuss was about (twilight books, not the fanfiction that followed).
I burned a book once, and to this day I still feel bad about it. I don't really know how I came to possess it, but it was one of those books about dianetics written by L. Ron Hubbard, and it was so devious and deceiving (under the pretense of "self-help") that I felt the world was better without it.
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02-08-17
I read that when I was younger. Funny how whenever anyone questioned something in the book hubbard would just say 'read it again'. LaVey's satanic bible was more honest than that. I saw a doco on scientology recently after watching the first season of The Path. Very strange organisation.



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02-08-17
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I read that when I was younger. Funny how whenever anyone questioned something in the book hubbard would just say 'read it again'. LaVey's satanic bible was more honest than that. I saw a doco on scientology recently after watching the first season of The Path. Very strange organisation.
If I remember it well, the book itself says to read it again. At the beginning, you are supposed to take a test on whether or not you are a good happy person (the test is framed to that you will fail - and feel bad for it), and then take it again after the first reading. And then read it again and do even better.

Most people perform better after each reading, and while the book does present some interesting nlp techniques, those results are also due to the words themselves beeing twisted out of their meaning. That's some creepy **** indeed, and I don't wish it to anyone.

If you're interested in the subject, Alex Gibney's Going Clear is a great docu!

I actually like the Satanic Bible, but it's the polar opposite of those creepy sects. When Hubbard said "Let everyone come to be, and be rewarded in Xenu's bossom", Lavey said "It's ok if you don't want to be one of us. You're not worthy anyway". I'm not a satanist by any means, but I find this arrogance refreshing.



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Going Clear is the doco I saw. Very interesting, very unnerving. I remember when I was a kid walking out of mass with my dad and by the scientology centre in our town to get to the car. I asked what scientology was. Can't remember exactly what his response was but basically he said Never go near those people. I've been fascinated eversince. Filled in one of their online quizzes once a few years ago as an experiment. The poor but happy and with a lovely family and friend network alta ego was ignored. The super wealthy business tycoon going through a midlife crisis and with a hateful wife, ass hat children and no friends alta ego suddenly started receiving phonecalls and emails. That's all I needed to know they're parasites.

A work colleague gave me LaVey's bible from a friend of his who was a LaVey satanist when I was about 20. I'm curious so I read it. Just seems like a bit of a bacchanalian thing to me. Do what you want with unbridled passion and no guilt (polar opposite of the christian ethos), but dont go out of your way to hurt innocents.Nothing wrong with that IMO. Absolutely nothing in there the way Hollywood likes to depict. No baby or animal sacrifices, no killing people, casting spells etc etc. I'm not a satanist either, or any atheist, but at the time I thought it made a lot more sense than catholic hair shirts and floggings to beg forgiveness from an invisible friend.

Now back to 50 shades of poop, just saw this come up on fb for anyone interested in that dung beetle feast. I only read the first paragraph or two and my insomnia was instantly cured.

https://filmink.com.au/reviews/fifty-shades-darker/



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02-12-17
Originally Posted by Dani8
OK that's a bit of a controversial title but I was hijacking an intro thread so thought I would start a new one. Fans of the books or movies also welcome. Not here to pick a fight - just to discuss the themes.

I saw the first movie one morning when my dogs woke me up at 3am. Didnt know anything about it. Almost switched it off because it looked like an emo teen romcom and that's not my thing, but had nothing else to watch so gave it a go. To this day I have no idea why my husband got it for me. He knows I'm not big on screen teens or romcoms. I thought it was pretty cute for a vampire flick.

Then I started reading about the hype. Decided to buy the book for *ahum* toilet reading. Then I found out author was a mormon and I was fascinated. I don't know any mormons but this got me interested.

Well, I have a 10 year old niece who can string a sentence together more effectively than Stephanie whatsername. That was my first problem. Then the themes started jumping out at me. here is my list. I'll probably think of more if the thread takes off.

1.Teenage girls stink. As it turns out later, they stink good, not like the gag reflex he first had on seeing her.
2. It's OK to be an emo if you're super brainy.
3. Teenage boys have bad teeth but that's OK if they have a huge jaw.
4. 100 year old man stalking a 17 year old girl is romantic, because he loves her and wants to protect her.
5. It's also romantic for 100 year old guy to perve at 17 year old teen while she sleeps in her underwear every night.
6. Kissing encourages domestic violence and it's the chick's fault that guy can't control himself.

I then started reading the other books thinking that her writing might get it together (wrong!), because my much older sister was loving them, and I was obsessed with the themes.

7. Dogs stink, and they really stink.
8. Girls who bleed bring violence upon themselves.
9. It's OK for a house full of adopted kids to start bonking.
10. Teens who are suicidal after a broken romance dont need psychiatric evaluation, love, support and communication.
11. Italy has underground secret societies in areas frequented by families where little kids get slaughtered. Must be where the pizzagate conspiracy theory started.
12. Losing your virginity on your wedding night is a violent affair that breaks the bed and trashes the honeymoon suite.
13. Natural childbirth will kill you.
14. It's OK for a dog/human to fall in love and lust with a child.
15. being a total control freak and keeping your wife away from her father is perfectly acceptable.

WTF did I just write. I'm sure there is more locked in my tiny brain.
Well I saw it because I had to, with one hand wrapped around my girlfriend and another holding beercan, It's a movie that's so easy to forget and I don't think I will ever watch it again, There's so many better vampire flix of this kind,
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