One Year Later...The "OFFICIAL" 9/11 Thread

One year later……

I have been mulling the idea of what to write. For the last two weeks, brilliant flashes of sentences and pictures floated back and forth in the unconscious mind. Articles abound in newspapers, magazines and TV about this day…a constant reminder of the tragic anniversary. What to say ?

For those of you who thought that New York is down, you are so far from the truth. The City is resilient, defiant and forever adapting. If you look back, we have survived much worst….believe it or not. Can you imagine a city where almost 40% of its workers were unemployed. Can you imagine a place where the poor rioted to avoid a draft and nearly burnt the city down ? The Federal Government had to bring in troops to quell the riots. It was called The Great Depression and The Draft Riots of 1863, respectively. We survived those events, we will certainly survive 9/11.

Actually, Osama picked the wrong place to do what he did. Embassies and military targets outside the US maybe harder targets, but if he thought NY was softer because we had no obvious defense, he was so wrong. If you physically attack NY, you might as well put a gun to your head and pull the trigger now. It would save us the trouble of hunting you down like a rabid dog.

The greatest mistake that some people make now ? Attack civilian populations. The Western world has evolved, somewhat. Mass, indiscriminant bombings of population centers are no longer acceptable. If the military goes after a military target and civilians are killed, that’s the price of war. I accept it. But when the cowards hide behind civilians to shoot at our soldiers (Somolia) or bomb civilian and religious institutions (Palestine, Pakistan, India) or move their military equipment next to hospitals and mosques (Iraq) or just straight out lie (Iraq, Libya, Syria, N Korea, etc…etc…etc…) well, it pains me to see casualities, but I accept it. These kinds of acts will not garner any sympathy from me. I just hope that we do not degrade to their level. But, if another large scale attack like 9/11 occurs, the Army can give me a parachute and weapons and drop me anywhere they please, I’ll take care of the rest.

When this is all over and history begins to record this great battle of a thousand cuts, let the future know that the attack on the World Trade Center was the pivotal moment when the sleeping giant was awaken once again.


9/11. Never forget.

9-11. Never forget.

"Imagine all the people, living life in peace..." -John Winston Ono Lennon.

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well, i actually dissagree with just about everything you said. obviously, osama did get away with it, and if you believe what our govt officials and intelligencia have been saying, this is probably just the first in a long and protracted war on terrorism. now if you're a cynic, that might just sound like an excuse to spend even more of our hard earned money on really expensive, nontransparent defense ventures, but even so it has some other harsh implications as well: more us civilian casualties.
as for your comments about terrorists beinc cowards, i fail to see how willingness to die for something no matter the price in your own (or other's) lives is cowardly in any context, perhaps more dispicable in one than in another, but neither implies a greater cowardice than the other. the way i see it, terrorism is merely the weapon of the weak. people fly a plane into a building or hide behind civilians not out of cowardice, but because they know that head on assault in a conventional war against a nation that spends more money on military than every other combined is tantamount to suicide.
so say what you will about the glories of war and dying for your country, but i think the more we assault this enemy, the more we get ourselves tangled in an inescapable, irrational web of destruction. terrorism is more a political weapon than a military one, and the more we insist on fighting it only on the basis of our capacity to sink funds into war, at the expense of cheaper, stabler political weapons, the farther we get from victory.

i'm not about to forget the trade center bombings, by the way.

In united we stand:


http://www.911memorialquilt.com/index.html?source=bma

How many people do you think put:

John Doe
peace
9/11 never forget

on their quilt spot?
just a thought.





Anyways...
The way that Americans cradle this wound is not only innefective, but bordering on pornographic.
I realise that people who lost loved ones should mourn, but I think it's pretty ridiculous the way that we've built this up into such a big thing. Espescially because of the insane amount of people America has killed int the past. It was war, yes, and that is a valid excuse, but the terrorists are at war with us . We would have used the same tactics against such a large enemy.

And as for loss of innocent civilians:
We blew up Hiroshima, and Nagasaki!
With Nukes!
REALLY BIG NUKES!

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It's definitley not one of my stronger arguments, and my actual argument has a lot more to do with how obscene and selfish it is to obsess over these tragedies.

I think it still holds true, though.

Damn Post deleters!

My views on the whole thing:


I don't know what to think. I refuse to get into an argument with patriots about how I don't think America should stick its nose into other people's business, but at the same time, I wouldn't exactly call flying passenger planes into civilian-filled buildings to be appropriate retaliation. I don't want to ask us to all get along, because the chances are people will say to me, "how can you say that? They attacked us, we want vengeance..." and things like that. I know it would be different if I were a resident of New York; which I hope to be some day. I know it would be different if I were an American citizen; I also hope to be one of them at some stage. But I don't know what to think; should America be thinking about what they did to warrant such an attack? Yes. Should it have happened? Of course not. Were there ways to prevent it? Yes. War against terrorism? How do you fight such a war.

I don't know what to think. My opinions are contradictory. My opinions oft don't make me popular. I love America, but they can't say that the attacks were unprovoked. Tragic, awful, terrible, yes, but not unprovoked. Waking a sleeping giant? Well, considering that line was ripped straight from one of last year's worst films, maybe. Maybe it's woken a bumbling idiot. I think America is the greatest [meaning most powerful] country on Earth; simple as that. They are the strongest group since the Roman empire as it has recently been pointed out. But a war against terrorism suddenly becomes a war against Afghanistan in general when we can't find Bin Laden in the caves let's turn our attention to Saddam, because fighting a war is fighting a war is fighting a war, right? I do not like this, Sam I Am, I don't like the way this sh*t is going.

I don't know what to think.
I think it is a day that the free world can celebrate freedom and a day that we can stand up for what is right, and as Yoda suggests, help people, do good deeds, try to make a difference. You can kick a giant in the shin, but you're only going to break a foot, as whoever was behind the attacks is finding out [there's still no hard core evidence that it was Bin Laden, no matter what you argue]. But I love America. Why am I rambling?

To me, the thing that marks the most for me on this day is how disgusting the world is. I'm not sure about in America [I can only imagine that it's the same as it is here], but over here, the September 11th anniversay [9/11, S11 -- what the Hell is this pop culture celebration? S11, D12, Eminem. Awesome! Zuh?!], has become a chance to get ratings and sell papers. Even our local paper, a world away from New York, had the towers on the cover. Like we were somehow directly effected; maybe in minds, but physically effected. I remember after the attacks last year Australian authorities started saying we were next, we were targets. Apparently [so someone told me today] they've started saying it again. What the f*ck is wrong with us? Australians seems to put importance that we don't have upon ourselves by putting us in the same league as America. "Well if someone wants to attack us, they should attack us too, because we're good." The television stations are playing footage shot inside the towers, which I think is revolting. They shouldn't do it. Like it's entertainment. Like it's some exclusive entertainment bonanza, like when Nicole and Tom broke up, or some sh*t like that.

I'm sorry.

We should remember the deaths with reverance, not with nine-eleven-twenty-four-seven television coverage and reminders of, not a terrorist attack, but a tragic loss of human life. We should move on from the planes entering buildings with photos which every newspaper in the country is Hell bent on peddaling and we should celebrate a triumph of human spirit; the manner in which the American people have overcome tragedy. I imagine that's the way the Americans are doing it, which is good. I just wish the Australians could see past the despair of the past and look towards the joy of the future.

I feel as though the anniversary is a pop-culture-ratings-winning-expose on death. That's the impression I'm getting over here. I hope to God it's not the same over there.

It should be a time of reverance and celebration.

"Celebration? Of what?!"

The fact that you're still living in the land of the free.
The fact that you're still live in the home of the brave.

Be thankful.

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very specific view. I agree everything but this part especially and its because of events like these i am often reminded of the fact i might not live a happy life but i live one that is free and nothing, will change that. Even if the price of my freedom means my death, i would do it. FOr my life and the lives of future generations.

I don't really see what you mean here. Do you know what the word pornographic means, or are you just trying to sound fancy? We cradle this wound, because it still hurts. 3,000+ moms, dads, brothers, etc. died that day beacause they wanted to earn their pay. It was terrifying watching the civilians jump to their death from 80+ stories high. It was harrowing seeing the firefighter death toll continually rise.

It is a big thing. The two tallest buildings and the largest office building in the world were obliterated by terrorists. It's ground breaking in its enormity. They were targeted by hate mongers that say anyone who sides with the Jews or the Infidels are their enemy too. That totals about 3/5 of the worlds population.

America has never started a war of conquest. We have our faults, yes. It makes me sad that we are recource hog, and wasters. It's upseting that the common american is indifferent to the rest of the world's problems. Realise also, that 99.9% of us have not killed an insane number of people. All religions have a history of blood, the muslims are not immune to that fact.

That, my friend, is pure speculation on your part.

We were at war with an empire that refused to surrender. We could have invaded Japan by conventional means, surely. We would have lost another 100,000 to 150,000 more soldiers that way. We didn't ask to be in that war, Japan forced us. America had already lost 800,000+ soldiers and Truman didn't want to lose anymore. BTW, Japan could have surrendered after the first bomb.

Silver, I don't think that the average American believes we were just minding our own business and then "WHAM!!!"
A lot of countries want our food, our money, our recources, and we give it. Some want military aid, we give it. Afghanistan is saying now that they wish we would just leave, after we liberated them. Oh well, an ally today, an enemy tomorrow. I agree that our polititians think they know to godd@amn much, and we do try to boss around to many countries. But I think a lot of the times we are invited to.
I liked your post, you're taking the matter seriously and treating it with respect. Not for America, but for the condition of the world.

"Let's Roll!!"

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I was raised in New York and lived there almost half of my life. I have been to the WTC many times (or pass it at times too). It is part of my life - a trademark so to speak. Of mine and many other New Yorkers. Seeing those buildings just demolish , be what is now called "Ground Zero" , it is devastating.
My best friend who was working at the time , saw the whole thing happen first hand . I feel for him, seeing people screaming, running down the street, escaping the disaster. It is truly hard for me to even guess how he felt.
It is going to be a day of rememberance for me on 9/11 for not only him but for all of the people in the WTC buildings.

not just you but for all the world, it has become like a second ANZAC day.

Interesting thought.

I wonder: do Americans know about ANZAC day?

i dont. do tell...

April 25th: Anzac Day.

It's a day of rememberence, and to commemorate Australian and New Zealender Army Corps who died in Gallipoli. There may be more to it, but I'm unsure of what.

Is that about right?

You are correct Lord, it’s a day where we have our ceremonies, pay our respects and than continue on with our day like normal.