War in the Middle East

You know what reminds me the most of pre-WWII talk?

"Israel has a right to defend itself"

Yea defend itself from women and children with sicks and stones right?Defend itself by using its massive military force to knock down residential buildings in lebennon. Yes, the israelis will definitly get what's coming to them, and you will see...justice will come to them.

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i haven't been here in a long time, but i just would like to say that i'm jewish and i really do object to all this all this talk going on that the jews have to get what they deserve? and what is that?

the palestinians and the jews have been fighting it out for years and israel always gets the blame as they are doing now...and unfairly i might add...

maybe it's time that israel, lebanon, syria, iran and hezbollah stop all this and call a truce? one that will last? and why can't palestine and israel live side by side without killing one another...please answer me that...jerusalem is a city that is home to three religions...jews, christians and arabs...

Uh...how does that resemble pre-WWII talk?

Yes, that's exactly what's happening. You've summed up the situation perfectly: Israel is bombing women and children armed with sticks and stones. Must be those new magical exploding stones thrown by murderous preschoolers that are blowing up Israeli pizza parlors.

From The Jewish Problem

"The Jewish Question is as old as the history of Jewry itself. From the days of antiquity to the present, the peoples have always risen up to defend themselves against Jewish parasitism."

"The world-wide boycott movement against National Socialist Germany, the war agitation of the world Jewish press, and the gunshots by Jewish murders that killed Wilhelm Gustloff and Ernst vom Rath, proved that. National Socialism fights its battles to a victorious end with iron determination. It will solve the Jewish Question in a way it thinks right for the German people, regardless of the deadly enmity and songs of hatred on the part of the Jews and their democratic friends. It will do this legally, but without compromise, and finally."

Throw in a few refererences to "terrorism" and change the label to "Arab," and you pretty much have Israel's rhetoric right there...

Ah, so the phrase "defend themselves" is now indicative of fascism. Got it.

Show me Jews blowing up German nightclubs in the late 1930s and maybe we'll have an actual discussion here.

There were several Germans murdered by Jews as acts of resistance during the pre-Nuremberg Laws era. Not to mention the Reichstag fire which, while once believed to have been a Nazi stratagem, is now widely believed to have been set by the a Communist party splinter faction (and, in Germany, that meant Jews).

Yea, you're right Israel always gets the blame. The U.S. never backs it up. The world never turns a cold shoulder to its actions, and its being held accountable for all of its atrocities..poor poor israel.

Magical exploding stones..i like that.

I suspect then thats the reason Israel bombed a residential building today right? you know what a residential building is right? Its where people LIVE, its where they have a couch and a TV and a dinner table, and most of them have dish TV..so they were probably watching the news via satillite or if they had kids they were playing some playstation 2 or xbox 360....maybe the mom was cooking food somewhere in the kitchen..maybe the ****ing 2 month old baby was taking a nap....
Now that is a building you want to bomb.

Oh and Yoda, you never got back to me about the koranic quotes...i was pretty sure you asked me to spend time on them and i did...the least you can do is tell me what you think.

Since you're apparently demanding an explanation, I have to buy a car tomorrow and I'm currently in the process of moving, so as you can imagine, I've been unexpectedly busy. Believe me, I have no intention of ending this conversation, but I don't have much choice but to delay the more involved arguments.

ohhh..what are you getting if you dont mind my asking?

Whereas you are a myopic and antisemitic, I can actually see both sides of this. No side is inculpable, as I've previously said.

Israel (which is not "the Jews," although much of the criticism levied against them is a result of antisemitism) has used children as human shields. They have quelled riots with outrageous force. They have a few rather racist marriage rules in the country itself. There are many, many, many ugly flaws that are in place and have been enacted.

But to pretend that they are the sole reason for hostilities--that Arab Muslims are all peaceful saints and victims--is to ignore documented history of the region, by which Jews were attacked by vile, repulsive, hateful demons like yourself as SOON as they got into the region, got onto land BOUGHT BY THEM from the Ottoman empire and individual Arab landholders. Land later divided by the UN after Britain gave them the authority to do so. Not Israel. Not the Jews.

There was death upon innocence Jewish women and children by Arab Muslims before Israel even EXISTED. Death unearned by any activity by the Jews except for the purchase of land that did not belong to their vengeful neighbors. And that spiteful attitude is what feeds the propaganda you so willingly and blindly follow.

You don't think I know that there is corruption and attrocities on both sides of this? I, unlike you, have managed to research the things I say. Slaughter of the first Aliyah, Belfour Declaration, 1947 UN Partition Plan, look it up. Takes but a second. And I'll echo that for Equilibrium. Look it up, and please don't defend the slaughter of innocent people the way you laughably defended the antisemitism inherent in the Quir'an.

Purandara, most likely your soured and bitter attitude is proof that you've already gotten what's coming to you... life takes care of all its meager participants. I can't imagine what has been done to you in your poor existence to be so angry at such a small population of the world, but let me tell you that, from the bottom of my peaceful existence and my Jewish faith, I find humor in your internet tirade. There is nothing you or the other smallminded sheep of the world can do to us that has not been done already. I do not welcome the destruction of any people as you do, but I do welcome the survival of those who are NOT like you, both Jewish and Muslim.

Something very boring and very reliable.

Pun' is all show and no go, maybe he should spend some time in a war-zone and live among the civilians there who have been traumatized and then spout off his hate. I do not care which side someone may be on, the effects of war is an eye-opening experience when you see it and live it first hand.

Pun' also is against anything that America stands for, so by relation he must be against Israel regardless of his inner beliefs.

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You know what, **** you and your sickening sense of moral superiority. **** you and your ****ing assumptions about people you've never even met. **** you and your condescending invitation to experience war when we all know YOU HAVEN'T EXPERIENCED ****! When one of your close friends goes to render humanitarian aid to a people stripped of everything, and is murdered by a 'moral,' 'democratic' nation that cares more about achieving some sort of cathartic, apocalyptic revenge on enemies real and imagined than about safeguarding INNOCENT HUMAN LIFE, then we'll talk. Until then, **** OFF! You know nothing, you've experienced nothing, and you have nothing of value to say.

Incidentally, having murdered hundreds of Lebanese civilians, called down rocket fire that has led to several civilian deaths in Israel, destroyed the infrastructure of Lebanon, caused an environmental crisis, weakened the democratically elected Lebanese government - all without materially degrading Hezbollah - Ehud Olmert is now indicating his willingness to exchange prisoners with Hezbollah as a part of a negotiated ceasefire!

WHAT THE ****?!! He could have done this on day one and saved hundreds of lives (possibly thousands, when you consider the long-term consequences of this attack). **** YOU EHUD OLMERT!

glad we got that sorted, you're jewish therefore completely biased...i wondered why you were so vehemently supporting the israelis....

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If the truth about what I have experienced is really at question here then you are right I have nothing to say to you. Dont sling mud if you do not expect to get some thrown back.

Edited: BTW I admit I might be a bit dramatic at times, but it I do not lie about the things I have seen.
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I would like to point out that it appears to be that all the anti-Israel side can do is attack Israel, and they haven't been able to defend the actions of terrorist groups devoted to the destruction of Israel. I also don't see them coming to the defense of certain governments that deny the Holocaust ever happened. In fact, I see words that seem to suggest that those here in "vehement" opposition to Israel and it's actions wouldn't mind such a thing if it were to happen again.

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Around these images, and cling:
The notion of some infinitely gentle
Infinitely suffering thing.
T.S Eliot, "Preludes"

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