President Trump

I absolutely agree. Either that, or they're faking that they don't know anything. Maybe even THEY are a part of conspiracy! (This is possibly a joke,though, but maybe not!).

The media definately not. That's ridiculous. They'll get worse by watching it. It's all just lies and manipulation. But maybe they WANT to be manipulated. There are sites on the web I think though. At least my dad says so and uses them. Not wiki, mind you. That's,of course, also rubbish. I think a site's called the truth seaker. My dad says the real truth has been DELIBERATELY put online, so folks can learn anything now, see how evil it all is, so they get even more upset and frustrated because they can't do anything about it nad are helpless.

Here's the real truth, folks. At least my dad says so.

May I ask if you believe in Jesus?

That's a loaded question. In what respect?

Do you believe in God? That there's God Almighty, The Creator.

I'm Agnostic. So I don't know. I'm certainly open to the possibility.

I often FEEL like there's a God, but I feel a lot of things which aren't necessarily real or an accurate interpretation of reality.

I do believe in the philosophy and teachings of Jesus. Probably one of the best religious philosophies next to Buddhism. In fact, I've got a little book called Jesus and Buddha - it has their teachings side by side and shows how remarkably similar they are.

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This is partly true, but I've come to believe that the upper elites, the Bilderburg group who meet annually in total secrecy to discuss World affairs no longer need to control Presidents, the economy, world trade, banking is so intertwined that Political leaders are not all that important. Sure they are shift managers who come along and do things their way, maybe build a border wall, be involved in minor conflicts, but their shift will end after a few years and the world rolls on.

See the Jensen speech in Network, shockingly relevant and over 40 years old.

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Yeah, c'mon this place is more right-wing. Think it may seem skewed since alot of left leaning members are so against Trump and even some right leaning members like Yoda are too.

I think when you affiliate with the right or left you tend to see opposing view points everywhere and it makes you feel out matched. I would call this place left leaning by a huge margin.

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Exhibit A in "why moderation isn't as easy as you think."

And then there's Maude.

I'm only talking about the members that semi-regularly comment on politics here. You, Captain, Wplains, Ashdoc, Yoda, Gandalf, SC, Nostromo i'd say are more right leaning. Me, Ash, Iro, Dani, cat are more left leaning i think. Who am i missing on either side?

It doesn't matter either way of course i'm just curious as i definitely thought there was more right leaning people here.

Yeah, I see how your looking at it. Too late for Yoda and I to create our own category?

haha. Yeah i wasn't meaning right vs left as in if i put you on one of these sides that means you always agree with the others on it. I think most members here have been fair and criticized people who are closer to their ideologies. I mean i'm certainly no fan of Obama and you and Yoda are big Trump critics here. Was just saying that in general you and Yoda are closer to leaning right on your views. Don't fully know either of your views but i know you've said as much yourselves. If we look at it that way and only counting the people who actually comment on politics here this is a more right leaning site IMO.

Yes, that was my impression too, Sean.

Thanks for the info, Camo. I knew some of those, and admit was afraid Yoda was a leftie. Superbly good thing he's right.

You're missing me amybe? I still won't reveal my position, but I will say I'm a Christian, and I see right more attached to it. Not that it necessarily is, it's more that left is anti-Christian. As far as I know.

Jesus was a socialist hippie. He would have hated republicans and those people who put wealth accumulation above helping the poor.

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The way I read Jesus's life he was very indifferent to the government. His command was to render to the government what they ask for. His commands on charity all involve giving of our own accord from ourselves and the church. That is exactly why modern conservatives believe in less government. Conservatives don't think we shouldn't be helping the poor. They believe the government shouldn't be the ones making that decision for us.

Your statement is one I hear a lot these days. I get the sentiment but it only works completely if Jesus was teaching the government about charity. He never was, he was teaching the individual.

I hear this a lot, and it's not really true. Charity was a huge part of Christ's teaching, but charity is, by definition, voluntary. Laws are not.

Not to mention that most debates about poverty are not about whether to help, but how best to.

you forgot d_chatterly and Slappy! both very astute, more left leaning.

I'd say it's pretty even on both sides.

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Yeah, i actually remembered Christine too although she hasn't been posting as much. Same with DonnieDarko and From Beyond as more right-leaning members.

I agree. And goverment really shouldn't be making decisions for us. But neither should conservatives. Everytime someone says the goverment sucks, I'm immidiately suspicious they want the power.

Otherwise, I agree with everything you said,Sean.

I agree, Chris.