Cussin'

I can trace the first instance of the word c**t appearing in a mainstream movie to 1971.

Both Play Misty for Me and Carnal Knowledge contain that word - though Eastwood does mutter his under his breath.

Can anybody pin-point the real trailblazer?

And what about the F word? Must be 60's right?

I know Richard Attenborough says F-ing in Loot in 1970, but I don't even think that can be the first British example.

Help me out folks, and hi!

Daisy

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I just have to say: Great Thread!

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I find it hillarious that the above is Daisy's only post ever.

I like her already! I think PLite should do the research on this one... it would be very educational for him.

The F word first appeared in the famous 1955 movie The Seven Little Foys. Bob hope cussed, F***, one of my foys is missing!!!!

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Yes I love it! Hahahaha

Nice one, Pig.

thanks for the replies folks but we're still nowhere near real knowledge. I just need to know, Zwee! Well Sultan, I just guess not everyone can be an old timer like yourself - I've got catching up to do (at least a couple of weeks!)

BTW loads of foul language got tossed around in front of the cameras in the silent days - until they got complaints from lip readers!

Daisy

ah, offensive movies. a favorite topic i have no idea when the first f word was dropped, but for a lesson in just how nasty the 70s were, everyone should check out Fritz the Cat. a classic, for sure.

oops, that should have read 60s.

and welcome, daisy!

My bro Pigsnie said the movie that changed everything was Whos afraid of Virginia WOOLF & it came out in 1966.

See, Toose? This is how I do research. Ask Pigsnie, hahaha.

Pigsnie also said the word f*** was first utterd on broadcast TV in 1965 by ken Tynan. thats the BBC I guess.

Ugh. I swear, Zwee grew up in a Victorian household...the dude is obsessed with swearing. I'll bet he giggles everytime someone says "crap."

Nothin wrong with swearin. Pigsnie does it all the time like when he stubs his toe. he says, Bloody f*** F*** me for the honor of the F***ing Scots, THAT HURT!!!!

No I don't giggle it's just this fuc%ing web-site and any web-site for that matter and how it restricts the way that I can talk. Trust me if I could I would be saying Fu-- every other word on this site. That or Bullsh*t. So I just appreciate it that Daisy has started such a thread.

Yes, I know, it was a joke. I figured you would get that. Anyway, if that's indeed the case, then I'm glad I've restricted the way you talk, because language like that has no place here -- or in most other places, for that matter. Swearing has it's uses, but there's simply no good reason to use it all the time -- none at all. There are an awful lot of words in the English language...so I don't see the point in reusing some of them (which happen to offend a lot of people) so often.

I don't curse a lot either just when I am part of a debate of some kind. That's when I feel it is a lot of fun to use. Get off your high-horse.

You don't curse a lot?

No high horse here -- unless you're imagining one. As you'll notice I didn't put you down, I just told you why I think what I think. If you disagree, feel free to say why. Just because someone thinks, for example, that swearing that often is crude, it doesn't mean they're on an ego trip.

I was watching Bridget Jones Diary the other day. I know, I watched it 'cause I heard it was #1 in the U.K. and I wanted to see what kind of movies they like. It was a girl pic I know, I felt embarassed about watching it. Anyway, there was a lot of cussin' in it. Both in English and ..uh..English. You could tell they put that in there just for the movie ratings. So I was wondering, how do the Brits know how to say f***? Then I thought, I always see Brits cussin on tv here, they don't edit out the B words. Maybe in England they don't edit out the F words. Is there a lot of cussin' over there?

Yes, Sunfrog, a lot of swearing in British TV progs especially after the 9pm "watershed" where these days anything seems possible.

I myself have heard the C word used twice in dramas made for TV both times for comic effect.

In the Police drama The Cops a criminal in the doc is asked by the magistrate why on earth a policeman would lie to the court. Pause for effect, then: "Coz 'e's a c***!" Laughter in court.

Yup, Piggie, I knew about critic Tynan's unprecedendet outburst on live TV back in the swingin' sixties - but it's the movies I'm really interested in and the big C in particular - that's such a taboo word.

Al Pacino isn't even able to pronounce it properly in Glengarry Glen Ross:

"You stupid f**kin' CONT!"

British TV has always been more relaxed about swearing. Check out Til Death Us Do Part - the mid sixties English original for All in the Family. It was bloody this and bloody that and "you silly moo!" Caused a storm. Monty Python regularly used the word Bastard for comic effect.

The words t**t, piss, ****, arse, bollocks, fart are now considered so mild you hardly notice them slipping into all sorts of programmes. But c**t is still rare.

Funniest and best use of the word? Trainspotting. It takes a good Scottish movie to really bring out the C word's potential. Especially Begsbie's little story about his encounter with the "so-called hard c**t"!

For some reason it is an especial favourite word of the Scots. Perhaps that is why I'm facinated by it - or maybe I'm just a dirty woman!

Daisy

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You watched the sissy movie BJones, Sunfrog? Hahahah. Well I did too, I liked it, it was pretty funny. I would like to go to a Tarts & vicars party & dress up as a cardinal. (Are you lookin at me funny, Daisy? )

Hummmm, yeah I think Brits cuss a lot on TV & in real life.
I didnt even think arse & fart & bloody is a cuss word anymore, I hear it so much. Pigsnie does swear a lot (especially the F word)but there are some words he never uses, at least not in front of me. he never uses c**t or tw*t. He uses merde a lot which is sh*t in french, hahaha. Jiminy christmas, I must go out & footle now.