Going based on imdb's classification, I have seen 203 films tagged as film noir that were released between 1940-1959. How many have you seen?
The MoFo Top Film Noir Countdown - Preliminary Thread
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So what director(s) does everything think will appear the most in the countdown? Billy Wilder? William Wyler? Alfred Hitchcock? John Huston? Howard Hawks? Someone else?
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So what director(s) does everything think will appear the most in the countdown? Billy Wilder? William Wyler? Alfred Hitchcock? John Huston? Howard Hawks? Someone else?
William Wyler has three noirs to his credits (unless I missed one) The Letter (1940), Detective Story (1951), The Desperate Hours (1955).
John Huston has four noirs (unless I missed one) The Maltese Falcon (1941), Key Largo (1948), We Were Strangers (1949) and The Asphalt Jungle (1950)....look for two of those to do very well in the countdown.
Howard Hawks has only two noirs but they are biggies: To Have and Have Not (1944), The Big Sleep (1946)
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My favorite Noir director, somewhat unheralded unless you love the genre, is definitely Robert Siodmak. His most famous are easily The Killers (1946) and Criss Cross (1949), both amazing and both starring Burt Lancaster, but his other Noirs include The Suspect (1944), Phantom Lady (1944), The File on Thelma Jordan (1949), Cry of the City (1948), The Dark Mirror (1946), Time Out of Mind (1947), The Strange Affair of Uncle Harry (1945), and Christmas Holiday (1944). Don't let the title of that last one fool you. It is also one of the few times Gene Kelly played a bad guy (still very early in his career).
I would think both The Killers and Criss Cross will easily make the group list, but I hope some of the others find their way, too. There is some real crackerjack stuff. Check out fantastic roles for Chuck Laughton in The Suspect, Babs Stanwyck in The File on Thelma Jordan, Olivia de Havilland in The Dark Mirror, and Ella Raines in Phantom Lady.
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My favorite Noir director, somewhat unheralded unless you love the genre, is definitely Robert Siodmak. His most famous are easily The Killers (1946) and Criss Cross (1949), both amazing and both starring Burt Lancaster, but his other Noirs include The Suspect (1944), Phantom Lady (1944), The File on Thelma Jordan (1949), Cry of the City (1948), The Dark Mirror (1946), Time Out of Mind (1947), The Strange Affair of Uncle Harry (1945), and Christmas Holiday (1944). Don't let the title of that last one fool you. It is also one of the few times Gene Kelly played a bad guy (still very early in his career).
I would think both The Killers and Criss Cross will easily make the group list, but I hope some of the others find their way, too. There is some real crackerjack stuff. Check out fantastic roles for Chuck Laughton in The Suspect, Babs Stanwyck in The File on Thelma Jordan, Olivia de Havilland in The Dark Mirror, and Ella Raines in Phantom Lady.
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My favorite Noir director, somewhat unheralded unless you love the genre, is definitely Robert Siodmak. His most famous are easily The Killers (1946) and Criss Cross (1949), both amazing and both starring Burt Lancaster, but his other Noirs include The Suspect (1944), Phantom Lady (1944), The File on Thelma Jordan (1949), Cry of the City (1948), The Dark Mirror (1946), Time Out of Mind (1947), The Strange Affair of Uncle Harry (1945), and Christmas Holiday (1944). Don't let the title of that last one fool you. It is also one of the few times Gene Kelly played a bad guy (still very early in his career).
I would think both The Killers and Criss Cross will easily make the group list, but I hope some of the others find their way, too. There is some real crackerjack stuff. Check out fantastic roles for Chuck Laughton in The Suspect, Babs Stanwyck in The File on Thelma Jordan, Olivia de Havilland in The Dark Mirror, and Ella Raines in Phantom Lady.
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Color noirs are allowed! They just have to be tagged 'film noir' at IMDB or Wiki per the 1st post rules.
However North by Northwest is not a noir and it's not tagged as such so not eligible. Good movie though.
However North by Northwest is not a noir and it's not tagged as such so not eligible. Good movie though.
Just starting to catch up with this thread. While most classic Films Noir are of course filmed in black & white, that is not a prerequisite. Some of the best known color Noirs are Leave Her To Heaven (1945), Niagra (1953), Desert Fury (1947), Black Widow (1954), I Died a Thousand Times (1955) - which is a remake of High Sierra, House of Bamboo (1955), Party Girl (1958), The Unholy Wife (1957), A Kiss Before Dying (1956), Hell on Frisco Bay (1956), and some obscure little flick by the name of Vertigo (1958). There are others, but those are some of the biggies.
North by Northwest, while one of Hitchcock's best, is definitely NOT Film Noir.
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So Vertigo counts as a noir? Well then.
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I see it tagged as 'Color film noir' on wikipedia.
Hey wasn't there supposed to be a neo noir countdown thread too?
Hey wasn't there supposed to be a neo noir countdown thread too?
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So what director(s) does everything think will appear the most in the countdown? Billy Wilder? William Wyler? Alfred Hitchcock? John Huston? Howard Hawks? Someone else?
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The forty Films Noir that placed on the MoFo Top 100 of the 1940s and 1950s lists are...
The Third Man (1948), The Maltese Falcon (1941), Double Indemnity (1944), Rebecca (1940), Laura (1944), Notorious (1946), Shadow of a Doubt (1943), The Big Sleep (1946), The Lost Weekend (1945), The Killers (1946), Out of the Past (1947), White Heat (1949), The Lady from Shanghai (1947), Mildred Pierce (1945), Leave Her to Heaven (1945), Odd Man Out (1947), Stray Dog (1949), The Suspect (1944), Suspicion (1941), Gilda (1946), Key Largo (1948), Nightmare Alley (1947), Kiss of Death (1947), The Postman Always Rings Twice (1946), The Naked City (1948), Ride the Pink Horse (1947), Detour (1945), The Letter (1940), Sunset Blvd. (1950), Vertigo (1958), Touch of Evil (1958), Night of the Hunter (1955), Sweet Smell of Success (1957), Strangers on a Train (1951), In a Lonely Place (1950), Ace in the Hole (1951), The Killing (1956), Rififi (1955), Kiss Me Deadly (1955), and Pickup on South Street (1953).
The Third Man (1948), The Maltese Falcon (1941), Double Indemnity (1944), Rebecca (1940), Laura (1944), Notorious (1946), Shadow of a Doubt (1943), The Big Sleep (1946), The Lost Weekend (1945), The Killers (1946), Out of the Past (1947), White Heat (1949), The Lady from Shanghai (1947), Mildred Pierce (1945), Leave Her to Heaven (1945), Odd Man Out (1947), Stray Dog (1949), The Suspect (1944), Suspicion (1941), Gilda (1946), Key Largo (1948), Nightmare Alley (1947), Kiss of Death (1947), The Postman Always Rings Twice (1946), The Naked City (1948), Ride the Pink Horse (1947), Detour (1945), The Letter (1940), Sunset Blvd. (1950), Vertigo (1958), Touch of Evil (1958), Night of the Hunter (1955), Sweet Smell of Success (1957), Strangers on a Train (1951), In a Lonely Place (1950), Ace in the Hole (1951), The Killing (1956), Rififi (1955), Kiss Me Deadly (1955), and Pickup on South Street (1953).
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So Vertigo counts as a noir? Well then.
Vertigo isn't tagged as noir per Citizens Rules (no pun intended)
From the 1st post were the rules/procedures are:
Films released from 1940 to 1959 are eligible if they are tagged 'noir or film noir' at either IMDB or Wiki....At IMDB if the movie is tagged 'noir or film noir' it's eligible. At Wiki it needs to say 'noir or film noir' in the movie page's first section before the Plot section.
Vertigo is a 1958 American psychological thriller film directed and produced by Alfred Hitchcock.
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I see I thought you meant the actual tags or categories at the very bottom of every wiki page. I can't be expected to read everything in your posts. Okay I gotta double check a few then...
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I'm surprised no lists are in yet
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Dammit so North By Northwest is not allowed?
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Yeah I know was just being "funny." I wouldn't consider it either and there was talk about it earlier
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