Hereditary bothered me; should I watch Midsommar?
Context: I thought Hereditary was very well made and creepy, but I thought it was total despair porn and regret watching it for the awful, wallowing nature of the tragedy depicted. So, I'm wondering if Midsommar is a good fit. I assume it'll be creepy and disturbing, but the way in which its disturbing is important.
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Re: Hereditary bothered me; should I watch Midsommar?
It has similarities in that regard but I don't think it wallows as much. In some disturbed (in lack of a better word, didn't personally find it disturbing per se) way it's a tad more hopeful in its approach, I guess.
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Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 2056195)
Context: I thought Hereditary was very well made and creepy, but I thought it was total despair porn and regret watching it for the awful, wallowing nature of the tragedy depicted. So, I'm wondering if Midsommar is a good fit. I assume it'll be creepy and disturbing, but the way in which its disturbing is important.
Can anyone give me a recommendation, sans spoilers, based on the above? |
Re: Hereditary bothered me; should I watch Midsommar?
I've been meaning to watch Midsommar. I just found a torrent for it, so I may watch it tonight.
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Originally Posted by MovieGal (Post 2056197)
Did you enjoy the original Wicker Man? if so, I find it along the same lines.
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Re: Hereditary bothered me; should I watch Midsommar?
Don't want to be disrespectful, and I'm probably biased since I watch more films than 99% of society, but I guess that during the time you spent indulging in this discussion and what not, you'd already have watched a considerable chunk of the film and could answer the question yourself.
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Originally Posted by Mr Minio (Post 2056227)
Don't want to be disrespectful, and I'm probably biased since I watch more films than 99% of society, but I guess that during the time you spent indulging in this discussion and what not, you'd already have watched a considerable chunk of the film and could answer the question yourself.
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Re: Hereditary bothered me; should I watch Midsommar?
I didn’t finish the film because I didn’t like what I saw. And to me, yes, Midsommar is a lot more disturbing and far out, indulging in the horrors of both tragedy and gore.
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I watched Midsommar last night. There were scenes of disgust, gore, violence, and a bizarre sex scene that reminded me of something from Eyes Wide Shut, minus the beauty queens.
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Re: Hereditary bothered me; should I watch Midsommar?
It's a really fine line, to be sure, because I've seen very violent films and don't regret it. It's not violence per se, it's a particular type, I suppose. Shock value stuff, but deathly serious about it, focusing on particularly vulnerable individuals, stuff like that. Shock with schlock isn't a problem, nor is really sad stuff, but something about the intersection of the two--designed to invoke despair--strikes me as ugly, and I'm wondering if that's just what Aster does.
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Re: Hereditary bothered me; should I watch Midsommar?
There was one scene in Midsommar that evoked despair, a situation where the victim knew what was happening but was completely helpless to do anything about it.
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Re: Hereditary bothered me; should I watch Midsommar?
Thanks, that's helpful. I'll have to think about it.
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Re: Hereditary bothered me; should I watch Midsommar?
I disliked Hereditary for pretty much the same reasons you did, and I came out of Midsommar feeling about the same way. This director makes good films, but I just don't like them. Midsommar didn't repulse me in the same way as Clair Denis's High Life, but I wouldn't watch it again, that's for sure.
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Re: Hereditary bothered me; should I watch Midsommar?
I should add that I felt a sense of dread and anxiety throughout most of Midsommar and I found myself wondering why the newcomers didnt just get back in their car and leave; but then you realize it's just a movie, and if they had taken the obvious course, it wouldn't have been much of a movie.
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Re: Hereditary bothered me; should I watch Midsommar?
Right. It's a fine line, too, because dread and anxiety in film are worth experiencing, there's a lot of art to it. It's just easy for it to tip over to something indulgent and irredeemable.
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Originally Posted by Sedai (Post 2056282)
I disliked Hereditary for pretty much the same reasons you did, and I came out of Midsommar feeling about the same way. This director makes good films, but I just don't like them. Midsommar didn't repulse me in the same way as Clair Denis's High Life, but I wouldn't watch it again, that's for sure.
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Re: Hereditary bothered me; should I watch Midsommar?
Short answer - no.
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Re: Hereditary bothered me; should I watch Midsommar?
There’s still selective people. Like Wenders used to say: “I don’t want certain things in my memory.”
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Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 2056213)
I've never seen it all the way through, but I know basically what happens. If it's more like that, then I'd probably be okay to watch it. I don't mind it being about cults or having those same themes, it's more the despair stuff, and whether there's just overtly torture-porn-type-stuff (even if someone objects to that phrase, they at least know what I mean by it, in this context). If it's like the stuff in Antichrist I'd just as soon pass, for example.
Again I would compare it to The Wicker Man and The Wicker Tree by Robin Hardy and nothing similar to anything by Lars Von Trier. I do enjoy Lars' movies but once I get a copy of Midsommar, it will be placed along with my copies of both Robin Hardy's films. I was excited to see this film. Hereditary was ok. I understood where it was leading. Zoroastrianism is an interesting concept but I know people who hated that film. Perhaps because they did not understand it. Both films deal with religious beliefs other Christianity and Judaism. Hey, I get that, but I'm open to reading and knowing other "religious". Most of my friends around here know that. Even religions that view human sacrifice as part of it. I have no qualms with that at all. |
I saw Midsommar first a year ago, and Hereditary second, just a few days ago. Both are disturbing in the same way but if I had to pick which one was more disturbing Id have to say Midsommar because its more realistic. Im not even sure these are horror movies but a genre all onto its own, Despair movies.
I will be staying away from this directors films going forward altogether. Hes got talent, but he has a grudge against Hope. |
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