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What a terrible Heisman acceptance speech. "My parents do a lot of things behind the scenes that go unnoticed." Yes Cam. We know. They accept money offers in exchange for your collegiate level football commitment. |
I think we know about that stuff. Its the back door dealings and the hush money they spread around to try and keep the whole mess quiet that we're not supposed to know about.
College athletics is a joke anyway. They should be paying those kids and all of this stuff would go away. |
You can't pay them because the kide are supposed to be there for an education, but most of them would never have gotten to college if the weren't athletes. They should ease up on some of the rules.
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Originally Posted by will.15
Most of them would never have gotten to college if the weren't athletes.
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It's true though.
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Yeah, there's a reason they have "athletic scholarships." I know there are exceptions, but I think the word "most" is pretty accurate there.
I dunno how to fix the system; you can't have it be a financial free-for-all, but as it is now it's clearly not regulated effectively, and there's a good chance it simply can't be. As messed up as it is now, there's an argument to be made that there's no superior alternative. |
Originally Posted by John McClane
Originally Posted by will.15
Most of them would never have gotten to college if the weren't athletes.
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Originally Posted by Yoda
As messed up as it is now, there's an argument to be made that there's no superior alternative.
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Your solution to the specific problem of collegiate sports eligibility problems is to abandon our entire economic system?
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You so crazy, planet.
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Well if you ask yourself why colleges need athletes in the first place, it's to profit... what if they didn't need to profit?
Now... I'm sure there are other reasons, especially for athletics, that a school would want the best players, but still, profit has to be the bottom line. |
Sure, that's the biggest one. I'm just kind of amused by the idea that the best way to solve a very, very niche problem is to upend our entire social structure. It's kinda like suggesting that if someone doesn't like their household chores they should sell their house.
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Not if that niche problem is the result of a fundamental flaw in our "entire social structure" that is at the same time responsible for many other "niche" problems.
The problem is, as you stated earlier, there is no kind of chore possible that can solve the problem, no matter how niche. As soon as someone says something like, "an argument to be made that there's no superior alternative", what is implied is precisely this upending of our "entire social structure", since it seems as if, by your words, our current social structure does not even contain the tools by which to complete the chore. |
Originally Posted by planet news
The problem is, as you stated earlier, there is no kind of chore possible that can solve the problem, no matter how niche. As soon as someone says something like, "an argument to be made that there's no superior alternative", what is implied is precisely this upending of our "entire social structure", since it seems as if, by your words, our current social structure does not even contain the tools by which to complete the chore.
There are plenty of problems a communist state would not have that a capitalist state does. But instead of being problems like college quarterbacks accepting Rolexs under the table and getting away with it sometimes, they'd be problems like mass starvation or secret police. In other words, yeah, we've got problems, but they're problems only a very wealthy nation has. They're awesome problems, like the obesity epidemic. |
On that note, it seems relevant to mention that I'm a) not a fan of college sports and b) about to bake a bunch of pizza rolls.
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Yoda, I used to be on that same train as you. Ya know, capitalism is the worst form of government, except for all the rest?
Yeah, definitely not buying that one anymore. Capitalism is evil. Anti-Oedipus did a number on my arse to make me see that truth, but I'm certainly not in favor of abandoning it. I'd have to get to heavy into the text to state why, but in a nutshell the only way you can escape from such a system is "small lines of flight." The general idea is that in destroying a fascist regime you will just bring down even more totalitarianism upon yourself, and there's no assurances the next system will be better. Small lines of flight, planet. Small lines of flight. |
It's the simple law of supply and demand. The supply comes first, and they create the demand.
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Originally Posted by John McClane
Yeah, definitely not buying that one anymore. Capitalism is evil. Anti-Oedipus did a number on my arse to make me see that truth, but I'm certainly not in favor of abandoning it. I'd have to get to heavy into the text to state why, but in a nutshell the only way you can escape from such a system is "small lines of flight."
I also, ya' know, don't think it's evil, and stuff. |
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