Gomorrah
 

Excellent Italian series.

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Loved the movie and will have to get into this just need to find the time
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Have you seen it Stirch?

Loved it though needed people at IMDb.com to sort out some plot details that were lost in translation. In fact, I have put it in a watchlist to stream again.

The series is terrific. Only 2 seasons, 12 episodes each.

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I've been banging the Gomorrah drum on here for the last few years now. It's the best tv series I've seen since The Wire.

Season 3 is due to air in November. I can not wait.

I searched for any other mention of Gomorrah, but could not find any.

I did not know it would have a third season. Excellent to know. :cool:

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I like the movie quite a bit and semi-regularly read up on the real life Camorra so i should really get to this soon.

That'll probably be my fault for spelling it wrong:

https://www.movieforums.com/communit...archid=6024671

No biggie. It's one of those words that has more than one correct spelling.

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Either way it's an incredible piece of tv.

Obviously no spoilers, but do you have a fave character? I love Ciro, but I think Gennaro might be my fave so far.

Genny. His transformation is great to watch. The actor that plays him is quite active on Twitter too and likes interacting with fans.

i used to live in that neighborhood for a little while - Secondigliano. It is all so real how they described it in the movie and series.

Daft question, but does he speak English by any chance?

No kidding. So you're Italian?

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Wowser! What an amazing show. Just finished season 2 & cannot wait for season 3. Best show I have seen since Breaking Bad & I have seen some good shows.

CONFIRMED: Season 3 debuts on 17 November.

Cannot wait. It's the best thing on tv.

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I still have most of series 2 to watch, but I loved the first series. I think it was the best thing on TV at the time and series 3 probably will be again.

Just re-watched the first 2 seasons. Amazing show. Very naturalistic like The Wire was.

Season 3 is absolutely brutal already. Stunningly shot too

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So looking forward to season 3. Not available in America yet & it will be a long wait for the dvd to come out, which is what I want. Best show I’ve seen all year.

Watched the first episode of this, was good looking forward to more. Will probably take me a while to catch up though as i've not got much time for tv right now. I'm generally more interested in the Sicilians, US Mafia and 'Ndrangheta but the Camorra are fascinating in their own right and of course they are the only ones who have a well made show like this about them.

Didn't expect what's his name to die, i liked and was looking forward to more from him. I knew someone big was going to die right away but i figured it would be Pietro's son. Obviously it makes sense giving Ciro even more reason to be against Pietro. Liked the look of the first episode, the contrast between the grimy and rundown streets and Pietro's mansion largely built off the exploitation and suffering of those poor areas. The bomb scene was insane, i want to know what that guy was going to say :laugh: Anyway good stuff so far, looking forward to more.

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Watched Episode 2, again very good. This took a big turn Pietro's character in particular. The first episode he seemed like an out of touch/largely hands off boss sitting up in his mansion while the others do everything. Really didn't expect how deeply involved he was in everything in this episode, i mean on a street level i always expected him to give the orders but that was it from the first episode. I have always had a problem with bosses committing their own murders because it's something that very rarely happens in real life. The Sopranos was pretty bad for it, think the only person who personally killed (on screen) more people than Tony on that show was Christopher, and from the start Tony was Underboss/Acting Boss and seen as the real power in the family. Murders like Ralph could be excused as that was a heat of the moment fight but most of the others seemed to be just to show off that Tony was a bada55. Like the Matthew Bevilaqua murder; i get it Christopher was like a son to him and he wanted revenge, but that's a very Hollywood thing the boss going out and doing it himself. There's plenty of examples of Mob Bosses getting revenge for relatives murders and practically none are done by the boss personally. The only similar example i can think of in real life is then Lucchese Consiglieri Anthony Casso personally killing one of the guys who tried to kill him, but he was one of the biggest psychopaths the mob ever had, Tony wasn't. Anyway sorry for going on about The Sopranos haha. That's just what i thought of when Pietro killed the guy himself. Obviously it was to show what he's like as the main story in the episode was him passing things over to his weak and spoiled son. Also i'm clearly getting too wrapped up in how realistic it is, i'll get over it like i did with The Sopranos it's just difficult at first as i read about the real life stuff.

I also like the path they are going with his son. He is typically weak and spoiled but he seems to want to stand on his own two feet that's a bit different from how it usually is. I also like that while he's spoiled he is also kind of likeable at least so far through his relationship with Ciro. The best thing about this episode was them instantly throwing likeability out the window, that's how crime shows like this should be done. Characters like Tony Soprano and Walter White were obviously always violent criminals so likeable may not be the right word but they were given positive qualities and their ruthlessness was largely held back in the early seasons or done as neccessity to excuse them. Here Ciro brutally executes some poor junkie as training basically and it's clearly nothing to him, tells you instantly that these guys are sociopathic scumbags without attempting to dance around it for a while or offer any grey area.

I'm guessing Pietro's wife will become boss/acting boss at some point, she is clearly alot like Pietro. Whether it's officially or not i'm guessing she'll be the real power behind Genny if he survives which i'm guessing he will. That has happened in the 'Ndrangheta before with both wives and sisters taking over for their imprisoned brothers/husband, the 'Ndrangheta are just about strictly family based alot more than the Sicilians or Camorra; each Clan is usually purely blood related there have been exceptions but very few. These criminal orginizations especially Italian ones typically have strict rules that they take very seriously so it's possible that's against Camorra rules, i'm not sure. Either way she is obviously going to be very influential with Pietro in prison.
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Episode 3 was great. Not sure what to say other than it's not got into 41Bis yet, i imagine that's in later episodes. Pietro is perfect in this episode, he has the idea that he's untouchable and way above the people imprisoning him. With Giuletti he probably was but these old mafia bosses got a rude awakening when they attempted to fight their government by bombing and assassinating judges and bank bosses, that was largely a Sicillian thing but it extended to Naples and Calbria in their crackdown. Basically don't fight the government was the lesson there as they were quickly wiped out and Sicillians formerly terrified to admit there even is a mafia started going to the police any time they tried to extort their business.

In America there's a similar regime in say ADX Florence, a prison mostly full of Terrorists actual genuine threats to society, Vincent Basciano is an Italian-American prisoner there. I don't care he's obviously a scumbag who deserves to die but the idea that he deserves those provisions is hilarious. he's there because he apparently tried to have a Judge killed, the informant who came out with that information has since been severely discredited. The Government has lost their last dozen or so cases against these Mafia members because their informants were junkies or whatever. It's interesting wondering what would happen in some of these cases if they happened just ten years earlier.

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Season 3 Episode 9. I'm in bits. What an episode of tv.

Darn. Still not available in America.

I had to use my internet skills. I couldn't wait.

Internet skills in what way?

Downloading them in HD, playing though my media box and syncing the subtitles. Naughty but nice.

Absolutely brilliant series yet again. The season finale was as touching as it was shocking. Here are some cinemagraphs I made:

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Be careful with spoilers since season 3 is not available in America yet.

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Hooray! Pre-ordered season 3 from the UK, which will be released March 6. So glad I bought a multi-region DVD player.

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Greatest gif. Ever.

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Just finished season 3. Amazing show.

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season 4 trailer:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ne...-watch-1186731

March, can't wait!

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Me either. It’s gonna be real hard though without Ciro. I loved him.

Exactly, 'Immortale' is one of my favorite TV characters ever.

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So pissed he’s out of the show. No American show would kill off a main lead while the show is running. Yes, he’s gonna be directing some parts of the show, but I could care less.

SEASON 4 - OFFICIAL TRAILER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iohtsbO5h0I
This is without any question one of the best crime related series ever made, only The Wire.
I'm not from that environment, but I believe that is depicted the new reality of today's mafia.

I didn't like Ciro's death, obviously, but I believe script wise was inevitable.

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Can’t wait for season 4.

Which took forever on dvd & which I had to buy from the UK.

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Naturally, it's an excellent series. Stirch, I think you're going to like it a lot. :up: Don't worry, that's all I'm going to say unless you comment on what you've seen. :)

1st season without Ciro, which will be v. hard for me. :(

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It is excellent, there is 1 minor blip early on and it takes a while to get going but it's great as ever.

There's a new movie called 'Piranhas' which has very similar subject matter

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8740778...1?ref_=nv_sr_1

Just watched (twice) the 1st 3 episodes. Missed this show so much.




@ScarletLion, what “minor blip” are you talking about? If it’s not in the 1st 3 episodes, don’t tell me.

PLEASE, NO SPOILERS!

My cat KANDY freakin loves this show.

Forgot to mention. Look who’s gonna be in Fargo season 4 in April. This I gotta see. :)

Enjoy this season, i'm sure it won't disappoint. Your cat is so gangster, my cat only watches soccer :p. Can't wait to see Gennaro in Fargo! :up:

Do love Gomorrah.

Do you guys know the name of this beautiful London building where Alberto & Gennaro meet in eppy 4? Crap screenshot, I know.

Gennaro takes on the Brits. Fun. 😎🇬🇧

Never mind. It’s St. Pancras. :)

I didn't like the London episode. It was full of cliched characters acting terribly.

I did have my own doubts about this episode. Definitely an outlier.

Watched it again & liked it better though it’s somewhat far-fetched & contrived. I suppose the point of it was to show that a decent cup of coffee is not to be found in London (so untrue) & that Brits are as criminally-minded as Italians are (which may or may not be true).

Gennaro & Azzurra both said that London makes them anxious. Judging by this episode, I can see why. :rolleyes:

Bloody brexit

Patrizia’s wedding day & Gennaro gave her away. She didn’t look too happy to be getting married (don’t know why), but she looked bellissima!

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When @ScarletLion created this cinematograph I had no idea this was Patrizia on her wedding day. Standing with her SIL. So fabulous to see it on my DVD yesterday.

Finished season 4. Brilliant. MAJOR SPOILERS BELOW.

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Two amusing things about Italy. One, you can smoke on the grounds of a kindergarten. Would never be allowed in America. Second, no one uses a swimming pool cover or fence even with a toddler in the house. :eek:

It was shocking but in keeping with the rest of the show. We've almost gone full circle now.

I'm looking forward to the 'Immortal' film about Ciro.

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Me too, but have no clue when l’immortale is actually coming to America or when a dvd might become available. Couldn’t find a thing online yesterday.

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⬆️ I kinda liked the introduction of the uncle & his family. LOVED their house & the birds. Decrepit past splendor.

A couple of thoughts for season 5: I hope that the uncle’s young daughter will be given a rôle to play. Not just her 2 brothers.

I predict that Titziana (airport CEO) & Azzurra will begin to clash. I think that Titziana may be “flying” into turbulence as most people do when aligned with Gennaro. I don’t think Gennaro would ever have an affair (though it would be a good plot scenario), but if Azzurra ever becomes resentful or jealous of Titziana ... well.

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I really liked Alberto, Titziana’s boss. Funny how all these people align themselves with Gennaro without taking into account how dangerous he is.

Another plot point next season will be Gennaro going after Ruggiero the prosecutor. G. told us as much.

Did anyone say when season 5 will be released?

Amusing that Salvatore inserts the Union Jack next to the English translation.

@John-Connor

Nothing yet Stirch, filming in Italy is slow, actors take corona tests twice a week. So they're filming outside of Italy now, I'd be surprised if they make December.

Producer Tozzi says; "We've found another special angle for season five. It's crepuscular, dark and emotional."

⬆️ I could live with December. Loved the show so much, but glad they’re not gonna drag it out for several more years. Better to end on a high note.

Dying to see Marco D’Amore’s movie that came out in March, but is nowhere to be found here. So annoying. AmazonUK has the dvd for sale, but only Blu Ray, which I don’t have. Have you seen it?

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9048786/

Nowadays maybe wise to get a Blu-ray player or a pc/laptop that plays them.
Saw it a while ago, here's my review, I took the spoilers out;

So how did you see this movie in the Netherlands? Very confused now.

For a second I was tempted to buy a Blu Ray DVD player, but this wouldn’t make sense as I never buy Blu Ray. Coming from the UK it would also have to be a multi-region DVD player and I already own one of these. I own an iPad only btw.

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Finished the 5th and final season of 'Gomorrah'. It was a little choreographed in the end although still good. It peaked before they released the needless film L'Immortale. The first few seasons are still some of the best TV this century.

Still unavailable here. So annoying. I loved L’Immortale.

Strange how it's not available across the pond. It should be on HBO Max soon I would guess.

I guess. I have it all on dvd & I would like to buy the final season dvd just to complete it, but that will take forever too.

That’s my quibble with some tv series - Ozark, for example. So very much time inbetween seasons. Succession is another one.

It finally dropped yesterday. Now I have to wait for the dvd so I complete the collection.

Have you watched any of it yet @Stirchley?

No, because as I mentioned before I have to wait for the dvd. I have the rest of it on dvd so I feel I should finish the collection. I know this sounds nuts because I would like nothing better than to stream it right now, but …

Gonna stop buying series on DVDs, that’s for sure. It takes so long for DVDs to be released. Gonna stream in future.

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Happy times: final season dvd will be available from Amazon May 31. I could get it earlier from Amazon UK, but they have some shortages so will stick with Amazon USA.

Cannot wait! :)

Finally! Decided to watch the entire thing again before I get into the final season.

So I rewatched the first 4 seasons in their entirety. So very good.

Now I will rewatch the movie Immortal and then start afresh with the final season 5 of Gomorrah.

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Trying to figure out episode 1 of season 5. The plot is hard to follow.

I'll be interested to hear your thoughts about season 5, @Stirchley

Yup. Four more episodes to go.

Does nobody in Napoli use a smart phone is my first thought.

@honeykid first spoiler:

Azzurra did in the final season, but not until near the end.

I want to hear yours too before I put this to bed.

@Stirchley