The MoFos Top 100 of the 90s Countdown - Redux

[Wooley]

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Night Shift is actually one of my favorite movies of Ever.
It is probably still my favorite Ron Howard film, though I agree the bar is low.

[Wooley]

GoodFellas, The Shawshank Redemption, The Big Lebowski, Fargo, Miller's Crossing, Pulp Fiction, Reservoir Dogs, Magnolia, Boogie Nights, SE7EN, L.A.Confidential, Unforgiven, Schindler's List, Jurassic Park, Saving Private Ryan, Silence of the Lambs, Terminator 2: Judgment Day, Heat, Eyes Wide Shut, Chungking Expresss, The Thin Red Line, Being John Malkovich, Ed Wood, Léon: The Professional, The Lion King, Toy Story, Princess Mononoke, Hoop Dreams, The Crying Game, Hana-Bi, and thirty-six more.

I would actually consider two of those.

[John-Connor]

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I've seen Edward Scissorhands twice since release and like it a lot. Depp is cool, hope to see Donnie Brasco and Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas make the list as well. Still haven't seen Perfect Blue, but it’s on my watchlist already. Perhaps the poster has a camouflage effect on LB, that I keep scrolling past it when looking for something to watch.

Seen 31/38
Ballot 4/25

[Wyldesyde19]

Seen both. Not a fan of Edward Scissorhands at all. And I like Perfect Blue but I prefer Millennium Actress and Paprika from Kon.

[iluv2viddyfilms]

Batman Returns will not make the list. I disagree and I think, given the amount of syndication it has received that Mars Attacks! has a chance to make the list. Ed Wood had better make it. It's easily Burton's best film.

[LeBoyWondeur]

I've misremembered Edward Scissorhands as a late eighties movie (as I did with Home Alone) therefore it was not considered for my ballot.
I picked another Tim Burton film but according to some confident people here it will not make the countdown redux list. Oh well.

[Citizen Rules]

... What did other people take away from this decade that, to them, surpasses what I think might have been the high-water mark?My #1 ballot movie that's what:D It won't be #1 on the countdown but it will make it....I hope!

[Citizen Rules]

Batman Returns will not make the list. I disagree and I think, given the amount of syndication it has received that Mars Attacks! has a chance to make the list. Ed Wood had better make it. It's easily Burton's best film.I watched Batman Returns for the very first time in prep for this countdown, it was kinda popcorn fun. The best thing was Burton's worldview vision and the amazing set design that comes out of his brain. The guy is a genius. I wouldn't be surprised if it does make the countdown though no Batman type votes from me.

[I_Wear_Pants]

Edward Scissorhands is the third movie from my ballot to make the countdown. I've not seen, nor even heard of, Perfect Blue, so I'm going to go look for it.

Addendum; Satoshi Kon sounds like he was a great human being. Shame he died so young. I want to explore his (limited) filmography. Perfect Blue sounds like a good place to start.

[Harry Lime]

I think, given the amount of syndication it has received that Mars Attacks! has a chance to make the list...It's easily Burton's best film.
viddy gets it.
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[stillmellow]

Perfect Blue is my number 15!


An extremely eerie atmosphere, combined with the stress and dark realities of being a celebrity. It's one of the most Lynchian movies not made by David Lynch, with the multiple realities our heroine lives between: a pop idol, a modern actress, a sex symbol, and of course everything she means to her fans. She can be such an important person to them, but they can't truly know her, and she does not understand them. This leads to dangerous and tragic consequences, as the lines between fantasy and reality blur.


Many people say Black Swan ripped it off, but I think it's very different. Perfect Blue is about unbalanced and twisted relationship between celebrities and the people that adore them, or to be more precise, adore their image. Black Swan is about the damage caused by the need to be perfect in a highly competitive field.


Stylistically, there are similarities, but I still feel they're very different.


Edward Scissorhands was good, but is another 'style over substance' movie, in my opinion. It has great visuals and a wonderfully bizarre feel, but it's not a movie where much happens, and we never really get to know Edward that well, given his lack of voice.


In an interesting parallel, I don't think it had anything in common with Frankenstein, like some people suggest. Edward always struck me more as a neurodivergent person. A strange, but extraordinary person that everyone first sees as a novelty, but are all quick to turn on the moment he seems the least bit guilty of anything. A good movie, but not on my list.


Seen: 28/38


List: 4/25

[seanc]

Time to pull the trigger on Perfect Blue. Been waiting for it to pop up on one of the ten services I pay for, but I guess it ain’t happening.

Nearly rewatched Edward Scissorhands this past Christmas season. It’s long overdue for one. Remember thinking it was fine, which feels like the wrong response to something so unique.

[stillmellow]

Time to pull the trigger on Perfect Blue. Been waiting for it to pop up on one of the ten services I pay for, but I guess it ain’t happening.

Nearly rewatched Edward Scissorhands this past Christmas season. It’s long overdue for one. Remember thinking it was fine, which feels like the wrong response to something so unique.



Amazon has Perfect Blue on sale for 5.99 (digital). I know because I was just looking for it myself.

[ApexPredator]

Up to 20/38 now.

I liked Edward Scissorhands well enough when I saw it. Haven't seen it since.

I've not seen Perfect Blue. I haven't seen much in the way of anime, but I've liked the ones I've seen so far (Barefoot Gen, Castle of Caligostro, Paprika, The Wind Rises, The Tale of Princess Kaguya, Ghost in the Shell).

[iluv2viddyfilms]

viddy gets it.
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Yep. I love Mars Attacks! Although it's his third best film behind the two Eds, Ed Wood and Ed Scissors.

[CosmicRunaway]

Addendum; Satoshi Kon sounds like he was a great human being. Shame he died so young.
Yeah, I would've loved to see what else he might've created if he'd had the time. I rather enjoyed one of the comics he co-created as well, Seraphim, though even if things had been different there likely wouldn't have been more of that due to creative differences with the other author.

I've not seen Perfect Blue. I haven't seen much in the way of anime, but I've liked the ones I've seen so far (Barefoot Gen, Castle of Caligostro, Paprika, The Wind Rises, The Tale of Princess Kaguya, Ghost in the Shell).
If you like Paprika, which is also one of Satoshi Kon's film, you should definitely check Perfect Blue out.

[Raven73]

Geez, Winona Ryder was in everything in the '90s, wasn't she?

Actually, she did about 17 movies between 1990 and 1999, plus some TV appearances and music videos. Impressive!

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[Raven73]

When this list is over, we're gonna party like it's 1999.

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[Citizen Rules]

Here's how I would rate Tim Burton's movies that I've seen

Excellent:
Ed Wood
Pee Wees Big Adventure (mainly it's Paul Reuben's character that makes the movie work)
Edward Scissorhands
Big Eyes
Mars Attacks!

Good:
Corpse Bride (actually excellent, but animation isn't my thing)
Batman Returns
Batman
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory

OK:
Miss Peregrine's Home for Peculiar Children
Sleepy Hollow
Beetlejuice (loved Burton's vision of the after world but Michael Keaton takes it down a couple notches for me)
Alice in Wonderland (don't really remember this, I might not have liked it)

Bad:
Dumbo
Planet of the Apes

[mattiasflgrtll6]

I'm sure Dumbo and Planet Of The Apes are worse, but Miss Peregrine left me really disappointed. It's the only Burton so far I dislike.

[I_Wear_Pants]

Here's how I would rate Tim Burton's movies that I've seen

Excellent:
Ed Wood
Pee Wees Big Adventure (mainly it's Paul Reuben's character that makes the movie work)
Edward Scissorhands
Big Eyes
Mars Attacks!


I found Big Eyes to be of high quality as well. It has Tim Burton's flourish while also remaining mellow. I really want to get a copy. I also really like the leads in Adams and Waltz so that helps (they weren't the biggest draw) (although they were appealing). It's so cool to see another fan of the film.

I don't know if this is unusual, or unexpected coming from me, but I actually love it when a movie is calm and methodical. Sure a lot of my favorites are flashy big affairs. Give me a mellow film, though, and if it's great, I'm sure to love it.

[Holden Pike]

Geez, Winona Ryder was in everything in the '90s, wasn't she? Actually, she did about 17 movies between 1990 and 1999, plus some TV appearances and music videos. Impressive!
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And yet one of the biggest effects she had on the decade was a role she dropped out of, not one that she took. Famously she was originally cast as Mary Corleone, Michael's daughter, in The Godfather Part III (1990). She was exhausted from her schedule at the time and had to bow out of the project just before the production started filming, which is when Francis Ford Coppola chose to cast his real-life daughter Sofia in the pivotal role. The Godfather Part III was a disappointment when it was released, though given the near-perfect pedigree of the first two legendary installments likely anything would have had difficulty measuring up to the critics' and audience's expectations.

I am not one of those who thinks Sofia's performance is the most glaring weakness of Part III. To me it may not even be in the top ten problems with the flick, certainly not the top five. But it is definitely the single element that got the most heat and blame. Even as underwritten as that part was, I don't doubt that Ryder's natural charisma and acting chops would have made the movie better. But ultimately, that is a minor distraction. That they wouldn't pay Robert Duvall what he requested to reprise Tom Hagen is the original sin, for me. Missing the opportunity for that character to redeem himself as consigliere, instead inserting a new, flat character played by George Hamilton, is a big hole both cinematically and dramatically that hollows out the entire narrative. Not to mention missing the presence of one of his generation's best actors. Bob Duvall made Alan Smithee garbage better, imagine his force of will added to the mix of Part III.

But with all of The Godfather Part III's flaws, I suspect it would have been more warmly received in general at the time and even now be more fondly remembered had Winona been in it.

Of course Sofia got her own version of revenge or redemption when she became an Oscar-winning filmmaker in her own right over a decade later.

[Captain Quint]

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Tim Burton? I've never tried ranking him, but of the features I've seen, and liked best.

* Ed Wood, Big Fish, Batman, Pee Wee's Big Adventure, The Corpse Bride, Beetlejuice

* Big Eyes, Batman Returns and Sleepy Hollow are on the next level below those.

* Sweeny Todd I can't remember what I thought of it - Frankenweenie and Alice were ok

* Don't like - Mars Attacks! Charlie, Apes, the 2nd Beetlejuice, and Dark Shadows was just sad.

* Edward Scissorhands? I adored it when it was released, it really spoke to me - I rewatched it 10 years back and while I still liked it, it had lost some of its luster - which is okay, not everything has to be forever picture, some movies belong to a time and place, while other movies belong to the ages - Edward belongs to the 90s for me, where it will always be special - so put it among the group at the top for that reason.

[Omnizoa]

Here's how I would rate Tim Burton's movies that I've seen

Good:
Charlie and the Chocolate FactoryAbsolute depravity.

[dadgumblah]

Edward Scissorhands is an excellent film and I loved it when it was released. I haven't seen it since and need to rectify that. I might as well confess now that I didn't put even one Tim Burton movie on my list. I was so focused on making sure certain other films got on my list (whether they make the countdown or not) that I made a few errors in judgement and this is the first blunder I made. Love Tim Burton films, even the ones people consider "lesser." I still need to see the "Alice" films and Big Eyes. But as a fan, I hang my head in shame (just trust me, I'm doing that) for not including him.

I haven't seen or even heard of Perfect Blue. I've only seen maybe three or four anime films but I'd like to see more.

I'm hoping things pick up for my list, particularly for ones I don't expect to make it. I'm hoping for a surprise or two.

[gbgoodies]

I'm hit or miss with both Tim Burton and Johnny Depp movies, but Edward Scissorhands is one of my favorites for both of them. I wanted to include it on my list, but I just couldn't find room for it. I'm glad to see that it made the countdown.


I haven't seen Perfect Blue.

[stillmellow]

Here's how I would rate Tim Burton's movies that I've seen

Excellent:
Ed Wood
Pee Wees Big Adventure (mainly it's Paul Reuben's character that makes the movie work)
Edward Scissorhands
Big Eyes
Mars Attacks!

Good:
Corpse Bride (actually excellent, but animation isn't my thing)
Batman Returns
Batman
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory

OK:
Miss Peregrine's Home for Peculiar Children
Sleepy Hollow
Beetlejuice (loved Burton's vision of the after world but Michael Keaton takes it down a couple notches for me)
Alice in Wonderland (don't really remember this, I might not have liked it)

Bad:
Dumbo
Planet of the Apes



I liked Beetlejuice a lot more than you did, but I agree that Charlie and the Chocolate Factory was fun. It's nowhere near the original, but it's still a lot of fun, and the songs work surprisingly well. Johnny Depp brought his own twist to the part. It works. 👍

[Captain Quint]

5lists97pointsCarlito's Way (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/6075-carlitos-way.html)Director
Brian De Palma, 1993

Starring
Al Pacino, Sean Penn, Penelope Ann Miller, John Leguizamo

[Captain Quint]

7lists99pointsA Perfect World (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/9559-a-perfect-world.html)Director
Clint Eastwood, 1993

Starring
Kevin Costner, Clint Eastwood, Laura Dern, T.J. Lowther

[Captain Quint]

It's a lovefest from me today as today's entries -both from 1993- took a while to get the respect they were due.

A Perfect World - Unforgiven was a tough act to follow, and I think initially for some critics, that shaded opinion (and maybe the humor ("I do like tater tots" - Eastwood's cop), the tonal shifts (the small-town car chase/crashes seem like come from a different movie) and the 'too on the nose' score turned them off as well). It was still darned good on its own, eccentricities and all, and I'm happy to see it reassessed as "one of Eastwood's most satisfying and underrated directorial achievements" (wiki), with the scenes between "the convict (Costner) and his young captive (Lowther) acknowledged as some of the most delicately crafted sequences in all of Eastwood's body of work."

Chuck O'Leary (FulvueDrive-in.com) called it "A tender, poignant, ultimately heartbreaking film filled with haunting, lasting images and nicely eccentric touches. Arguably Costner's best performance, and one of Eastwood's most underrated efforts behind the camera."

Now, I haven't seen Carlito's Way in a long while, but I remember liking it way back when. Wiki reports It "initially received mixed reviews from critics and lukewarm results at the box office, although general reception to the film has improved in subsequent years. The film has gained a strong cult following, and it is generally considered to be one of De Palma's most enduring films." - Slash film ranked it 4th in their list of De Palma's features, calling it "his most technically impressive achievement" and continued... "The fluidity of his Steadicam throughout and the seemingly impossible camera angles are insanely complex and well constructed." Read More: https://www.slashfilm.com/751849/the-14-best-brian-de-palma-movies-ranked/

Both were previously unranked, but in the years since, enough MoFos allied themselves with those who now praise the pictures, and so here they are.

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And with A Perfect World my 4-day streak comes to an end... I won't have another one of my movies show up on the countdown 'till the 30s. (though there are several that were on my short list, and others I loved to death - so I can celebrate those along with y'all)

BTW - re-watched this on Saturday -been a while, but I loved it as much as ever.

[PHOENIX74]

62. Carlito's Way (1993) - I watched this for the first and only time a number of years ago (five? six? seven? who knows) but a lot of it still sticks in my mind. I hate to use MoFo clichés, but sometimes you simply have to say that this or that film is something that's due a rewatch, because that might decide whether it's a classic or just another film. Al Pacino and Sean Penn really give it something though, and of course Brian De Palma's movies are always worthy of more than one look. It's in my collection, just waiting for me.

61. A Perfect World (1993) - It's been longer since I last saw this one. Who knows how long. A couple of decades maybe? I like seeing Kevin Costner in a villain role, even if his villain has that streak of criminal nobility about him. I don't know if I have this one on DVD - it was well liked by my family when it was new, and I liked it well enough. Good enough for me to declare it a good movie, but not great enough for me to have hankered for future viewings as time has gone by.

Seen : 39/40

[MovieFan1988]

Have seen so far: 15 - Home Alone - A good and fun family movie but nowhere it made my ballot.

Good Will Hunting - Saw this a long time ago and thought this movie was alright. It was nice to see Matt Damon in this, he's one of my favorite actors.

Glengarry Glen Ross - Not a bad movie with a good cast in it.

Edward Scissorhands - It's been so long that I have seen this movie and only remember a few scenes.

Carlito's Way - A good crime tale, it felt like I was watching something off of GTA Vice City especially where Sean Penn's character looks like the lawyer in the game, Ken Rosenberg.

Have not seen so far: 26

My Ballot List So Far:
#4 - Dumber and Dumber
#25 - Fear - One Pointer

[John-Connor]

Strong pair today! 👍

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Clint Eastwood is the man and made my top 25 favorite directors last year (2024). A Perfect World is great and was in consideration for my ballot but I went for another one of his films I expect to make top ten on this countdown. I also have another film starring Kevin Costner on my ballot I expect to finish in the top forty at least.

Brian De Palma has been on my top 25 favorite directors list for a while now. From his 90's output I think Carlito’s Way is his best, that final scene is just perfection.

Seen 33/40
Ballot 5/25

5. A Few Good Men (1992)
6. The Remains of the Day (1993)
7. Carlito’s Way (1993)
12. Point Break (1991)
21. Home Alone (1990)

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[rauldc14]

Starting to think everyone was thinking, Top 100 movies that weren't on the previous list.

But honestly, I like A Perfect World quite a bit. Eastwood is one of my favorite directors. I have not seen Carlitos Way.

[Holden Pike]

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Released two weeks apart in November of 1993, both are underrated but top tier titles in the directors' filmographies, and both Carlito's Way and A Perfect World make their MoFo List debuts together.

[dadgumblah]

There are several Al Pacino films I haven't seen, as much as I dig the guy's talent. Carlito's Way is one of those missed films.

I've seen A Perfect World and think it's a great film. I love that Clint took the support role with Costner in the lead. I'm sure it made his directing duties easier of course. T.J. Lowther did a good job as the kid Costner kidnaps. An excellent movie all around.

Two non-votes from me.

My list:
#25 Apollo 13 list proper #68

[mattiasflgrtll6]

A pick from my list finally shows up, and it's the one I had lost hope for making it on :homealone:

Carlito's Way was my #1.
There are so many things to love about it. First of all, the kind of story that is told for a mob movie. Instead of it being about a guy who's drawn into the allure of the mob, he wants out of it. It's a perspective that's surprisingly rare, and how it's portrayed is a truly heartbreaking and emotional experience. Whether it's old friends pressuring him to do another job, old debts or his dimwitted friend's gambling addiction, Carlito is simply not allowed to leave.
And that ordeal gets even worse when he has the love of his life Gail, who he wants nothing more than to make happy. And unlike many mobsters who treat their wives like shit or at least heavily neglect them, their scenes together are so beautiful and sweet. You're practically begging the film to let these two stay happy together, but you know that won't be the case.

Secondly, the performances from the entire cast are jawdroppingly good. Pacino makes his character so sympathetic and human despite beinng forced to do some very questionable things. He says so much with his eyes alone, and he makes the final scene where Carlito knows he's lost the battle once and for all so devastating it made me cry.
Penelope Ann Miller's Gail is also absolutely lovable, while Sean Penn appropriately manages to drive you crazy. There has rarely been a better advocate against excessive gambling. Worst of all, he makes Carlito's life more miserable as well in the process. He really should be the most contemptible, annoying person ever, yet Penn's charisma somehow makes it impossible to hate him completely.
As for Luis Guzmán, I thought for sure he was one of those actors who play hardered criminals in a lot of films, but surprisingly this is actually kind of an atypical role for him. Nevertheless, he conveys fear and menace excellently, and you want nothing more than for someone to take his ass down.

And lastly, there's De Palma's directing. I've always considered him one of the best filmmakers of all time, and he proves that here by tenfold. There's a gloomy and seedy feeling to the whole thing, and the criminal underground has never been depicted less glamorously. The final action setpiece in the subway is so intense you can barely catch your breath throughout it. He's always known how to create amazing finales, and this might very well by his best one alongside Blow Out and Carrie.

Even if it takes forever for another one of my picks to show up, I can happily coast on the fact that Carlito's Way of all movies made it on, and higher than I would've thought as well. High-five to the other fans who helped! :highfive:

[Holden Pike]

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A Perfect World is the second of my titles to show, and the first from my Top Ten. I had it slotted at number eight, good for eighteen of its ninety-nine points! I have adored this movie since first seeing it when it premiered. I do consider it Costner's best performance and I love everything about this movie, notching it only slightly behind Eastwood's acknowledged Oscar-winning masterpiece Unforgiven (1992) and another of his consistently underrated films, Bird (1988). I have gushed about A Perfect World ever since I joined this site twenty-three years ago. I finally got six of you to vote with me on it for one of these lists!

For many more of my ramblings and musings on A Perfect World check out my threads on Eastwood's directorial career HERE (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=340463#post340463) and my review thread Pike's Peak Picks (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1030044#post1030044) that includes two long posts of information and opinion on A Perfect World (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2544837#post2544837).

As for De Palma's Carlito's Way, it was one of the last titles cut from my shortlist so I am very excited and happily surprised to see it make the collective, even without my help. In the end, I mainly cut it because I had six titles from 1993 on my ballot and just had to mix it up a bit more. Without exaggeration, I could have submitted a very good and completely satisfying ballot with all twenty-five of the flicks coming from 1993.

Holden Pike: 1990s Part Deux
8. A Perfect World (#61)
23. Dead Man (#85)

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[pahaK]

I'm sure Dumbo and Planet Of The Apes are worse, but Miss Peregrine left me really disappointed. It's the only Burton so far I dislike.

It's quite a terrible adaptation, I admit.

Is there a public explanation why the book trilogy was condensed (or mutilated) into a single movie? With all the changes, it's Miss Peregrine in almost the name only. I like the first book, but sadly, the sequels are considerably worse.

[Holden Pike]

I've seen A Perfect World and think it's a great film. I love that Clint took the support role with Costner in the lead. I'm sure it made his directing duties easier of course.
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Eastwood did not intend to appear in A Perfect World at all. He was exhausted from the nearly two year process of making Unforgiven and then the publicity tour and extended awards season that followed its release. When he cast Costner, Kevin insisted Clint take the other role. Clint had not yet cast that role and relented. Eastwood was of course perfect for Red Garnett, but I can imagine Gene Hackman pairing up again for that part (he would work with Clint again in Absolute Power) or a couple of his later Space Cowboy co-stars in Tommy Lee Jones or James Garner stepping in there. Just coming off of Unforgiven and with that great script, obviously that would have been an attractive gig for dozens of actors. But, I am very glad Costner insisted on Clint himself.

By most accounts, Eastwood and Costner had a bit of friction on the set, including one shot that Costner reportedly wouldn't come out of his trailer to film so Clint used his stand-in from a distance. But whatever the momentary personality and ego conflicts were, with two Oscar-winning directors butting heads a bit, the resulting film is fantastic.

Now to start my campaigning to get Bird onto the MoFo Top 100 of the 1980s: Electric Boogaloo. Who is with me? 😀

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[cricket]

De Palma has a few stinkers but he also has a lot of films I love, including Carlito's Way. I love everything about it and it'll be my highest ranked Pacino and Penn of the Decade. Not my highest ranked Leguizamo though, which sounds strange. I've seen a movie fairly recently that reminded me a lot of Carlito's Way and I can't for the life of me remember what it was, and it wasn't a mob movie. Yea I could look it up but that's no fun.

A Perfect World is quite good but wasn't in consideration for my ballot.

8. Carlito's Way (#62)
15. Strange Days (#82)
24. Three Colors: Red (#90)

[Thief]

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Released two weeks apart in November of 1993, both are underrated but top tier titles in the directors' filmographies, and both Carlito's Way and A Perfect World make their MoFo List debuts together.


Love this serendipitious image pairing.

[KeyserCorleone]

Carlito's Way just barely managed not to make my ballot when I decided that the lack of Leguizamo's development warranted a two point drop. Otherwise, this is a perfect gangster movie with a lot of depth, superb acting and a style that tells you right of the bat that De Palma knew what he wanted from the start. 98.

Seen 26/40

[seanc]

Been a very long time since watching Carlito’s Way, it has left my mind as I was pretty lukewarm on it. Needs a second look eventually.

I like A Perfect World a whole lot (No, not as much as Holden, no one does), and in any other decade it would surely be somewhere on the second half of my list. 90’s is too stacked though. This movie has always been severely underrated, I can seriously see why Holden champions it so much. If you still haven’t been convinced to see it, do it.

[Thief]

Interesting pair of films; two that I'm somewhat surprised made the cut, especially A Perfect World. Not because it isn't worthy, but because it's a film that tends to slip under the radar. Personally, I haven't seen it in a very long time, but I do remember liking it. Someone recommended it to me a while ago but I just haven't gotten to it.



Carlito's Way is great. Probably my second favorite De Palma. Pacino is great in it, and it has one of my favorite one-shots. I considered it at some point, but there are too many great films in the 90s, some were bound to fall off.


SEEN: 24/40
MY BALLOT: 4/25


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[TheManBehindTheCurtain]

Carlito's Way: Heard of it. Never seen it. (Or it might be one of those I've seen and made absolutely no memorable impression.) Falls into that category of "movie with good reputation I'd watch when I have lots of time for something that's not really my thing."

A Perfect World: Seen it, liked it, liked it a lot, not on my list. I'm a bit of a Costner fan. He's had some hits, he's had some misses, and his stubbornness in pursuing passion projects does him no favors. Remember looking forward to this one because he was at the time largely known for playing good guys, or kinda good guys, and the marketing campaign obviously wanted to spin that in a different direction to pump sales. His interaction with the kid was what made it for me. It's one of those movies I moved up and down in my list, but I don't think even in intermediate spots it got higher than 25. Kinda of regret that now.

Seen: 26/40
Ballot: 2/25

My predictions of how my picks will place:

Good Chance: 0/12
Fair Chance: 2/10
-- Sleepless in Seattle: #91 / My #3
-- Office Space: #95 / My #23
No Chance: 0/3

If my hit rate doesn't pick up once we're past the half-way mark, I'm getting nervous.

[TheManBehindTheCurtain]

...
When he cast Costner, Kevin insisted Clint take the other role. Clint had not yet cast that role and relented. Eastwood was of course perfect for Red Garnett, but I can imagine Gene Hackman pairing up again for that part (he would work with Clint again in Absolute Power) or a couple of his later Space Cowboy co-stars in Tommy Lee Jones or James Garner stepping in there.
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Great suggestions! I could see any of those guys in that role and doing at least as well as Clint. Always liked James Garner.

[Miss Vicky]

I like A Perfect World a whole lot (No, not as much as Holden, no one does)

You sure about that?

Long before I ever knew the name Joaquin Phoenix, I was OBSESSED with Kevin Costner. I would spend weekends and school breaks marathoning his movies (child me had a longer attention span than adult me). I was 12 when A Perfect World hit theaters. I begged my mom to take me to see it. She agreed and I loved it instantly. As Holden said, this is probably Costner's finest acting performance. He does an incredible job of making his Butch Haynes believable as both a calculating criminal and noble friend and father figure for a young boy who really needs one. Eastwood of course does a great job as well as the man tasked with hunting Haynes down and also does well as the director, giving us a film that is a wonderful mix of atmosphere, tension, humor, and warmth. It was an immediate favorite and in the 32 years since it was released that hasn't changed. I had it on my ballot at #8 in our previous 1990s countdown, but this time I did it one better and placed it at #7.

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I haven't seen Carlitos Way.

Seen: 37/40
My Balllot:
7. A Perfect World (#61)
9. Point Break (#79)
10. Edward Scissorhands (#64)
12. True Romance (#94)
24. Interview With the Vampire (#92)
25. Untamed Heart (One Pointer)

[LeBoyWondeur]

I remember Carlito's Way as a good-looking film, but as is the case with many gangster-type stories I find the drama too self-explanatory and on the nose. People who choose to live dangerously, it just doesn't leave many interesting options, script wise.
And while Carlito wasn't going to play an active part in the drug deal, it was his choice to be there.
It's an entertaining movie and of course we watch it because of the gangster stuff, but to me it looks like the same old thing all over again.

I haven't seen A Perfect World, and films starring Kevin Costner or Clint Eastwood usually aren't on my to-watch list, but the description reminds me of a somewhat similar film from 1952 which I really liked.
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[Deschain]

Carlito’s Way is excellent. I think because it’s a smaller story it sometimes gets lost in the shuffle of the more epic sweeping crime movies of it’s time.

I’d never heard of A Perfect World so I looked it up and turns out I’ve actually seen it.

[ueno_station54]

i have a vivid memory of watching carlito's way at a cottage up north when i was 10 and no memory of the movie itself. never heard of the other one.

[Citizen Rules]

I've not seen Carlito's Way, it doesn't sound like something I'd enjoy. No problem with it making the list I'm sure it's a good one.

[Citizen Rules]

A Perfect World (1993) watched this in prep for the countdown. Liked it but didn't love it.
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ytimg.com%2Fvi%2FDzITAIfLgQM%2Fmaxresdefault.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=e42532dfedf77db6625177846aca66cab3b52ac54ffc6576009cd85eeb7fb396&ipo=imagesA Perfect World (1993)
Dir. Clint Eastwood

Well made and solidly directed by Clint Eastwood who's a favorite director of mine. Kevin Costner was exceptional in a role quite different than what I'd seen him in before. Of course any period piece film is a plus for me and so is setting it in the deep south, probably because that's quite a different place than where I live on the west coast. Oh, Laura Dern was looking great! rating_3_5

[Harry Lime]

I like both of these movies well enough but it's been a while. Decades I'm sure. But what I like even more (no not really more than the actual movies but still) is these two coming in this high in the countdown, neither being listed on the previous countdown, and further solidifying that these redux countdowns are a good idea. Not that we really have much choice, you run out of countdowns to do sooner or later, but it's been great so far. Again, well done Mofo! It's fresh. We have surprises! Excitement! And more!

Any guess on what movie will be the highest ranked that wasn't on the last list? Is this it? Galaxy Quest? Clueless? Falling Down? Trying to think of maybe ones that have a mainstream cult following. Or maybe something international that has more viewers thanks to Criterion such Days of Being Wild?

[cricket]

I've not seen Carlito's Way, it doesn't sound like something I'd enjoy. No problem with it making the list I'm sure it's a good one.

I think you'd like it more than expected

[TheManBehindTheCurtain]

Any guess on what movie will be the highest ranked that wasn't on the last list? Is this it? Galaxy Quest? Clueless? Falling Down? Trying to think of maybe ones that have a mainstream cult following. Or maybe something international that has more viewers thanks to Criterion such Days of Being Wild?

I would hope for Clueless. :)

[cricket]

De Palma has a few stinkers but he also has a lot of films I love, including Carlito's Way. I love everything about it and it'll be my highest ranked Pacino and Penn of the Decade. Not my highest ranked Leguizamo though, which sounds strange. I've seen a movie fairly recently that reminded me a lot of Carlito's Way and I can't for the life of me remember what it was, and it wasn't a mob movie. Yea I could look it up but that's no fun.

A Perfect World is quite good but wasn't in consideration for my ballot.

8. Carlito's Way (#62)
15. Strange Days (#82)
24. Three Colors: Red (#90).

I remember now. The Bikeriders with Tom Hardy had a lot in common with Carlito's Way.

[Citizen Rules]

I think you'd like it more than expectedI do see it's rated really highly at IMDB. 7.9 is impressive, not many movies get that high of a rating.

[MovieMeditation]

Damn. You really don’t have to stay away away for long until you miss out on a lot! Haha

Once again I’m behind on this… oh well. Another update then!

68. Apollo 13 (1995)

I like this one. It’s a solid piece of classic entertainment. For me, nothing more nothing less. But it’s the kind of blockbuster type big filmmaking where all elements are really strong and you just have a good time overall.

67. Three Colors: Blue (1993)

Great film. I didn’t vote for it but it deserves to be here. There are scenes and shots I still remember from this (the beach volley rolling… the sugar cube…) such a well made film. Still need to see the other two.


66. Glengarry Glen Ross (1992)

Is it on it? Is it? Yes… indeed… another one from my watchlist and it’s been there for ages. Really wanna see it.

65. Princess Mononoke (1997)

Probably one of Miyazaki’s best. Feels very mature and very personal. A broad and ambitious animated film. I want to rewatch it.

64. Edward Scissorhands (1990)

This was my #21. Love this film. So magical, whimsical and heartfelt even so. It’s one of the best examples of Burton’s crazy brain working in a way that brings both the crazy and the sincere. I’ve seen this multiple times and think it’s great every time.

63. Perfect Blue (1997)

Seen this twice and felt more or less the same both times. Visually amazing and overall an ambitious piece of work. A little frustrating too with the story but I really enjoy it even so.

62. Carlito's Way (1993)

Not seen this yet. And to no one’s surprise… of course on my watchlist (and have been for ages).

61. A Perfect World (1993)

One of Eastwood’s better directional efforts for sure. I really enjoyed this. Prime Kevin Costner too.

[Allaby]

I watched Carlito's Way today. It's well made with good performances, but the story wasn't as gripping or entertaining as I would have hoped. I rated it a 7/10. I saw A perfect World once years ago and liked it, but didn't consider it for my ballot.

Seen: 40/40

[Thief]

Here's how I would rate Tim Burton's movies that I've seen

Excellent:
Ed Wood
Pee Wees Big Adventure (mainly it's Paul Reuben's character that makes the movie work)
Edward Scissorhands
Big Eyes
Mars Attacks!

Good:
Corpse Bride (actually excellent, but animation isn't my thing)
Batman Returns
Batman
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory

OK:
Miss Peregrine's Home for Peculiar Children
Sleepy Hollow
Beetlejuice (loved Burton's vision of the after world but Michael Keaton takes it down a couple notches for me)
Alice in Wonderland (don't really remember this, I might not have liked it)

Bad:
Dumbo
Planet of the Apes

My ranking would be...


Big Fish - 4.5
Batman - 4
Sweeney Todd (https://www.movieforums.com/reviews/2225105-sweeney_todd_the_demon_barber_of_fleet_street.html) - 3.5
Mars Attacks! - 3.5
Beetlejuice (https://www.movieforums.com/reviews/2487129-beetlejuice.html) - 3
Frankenweenie - 3
Edward Scissorhands - 3
Planet of the Apes - 3
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory - 2.5
Beetlejuice Beetlejuice (https://www.movieforums.com/reviews/2493780-beetlejuice_beetlejuice.html) - 2


Not ranking Pee-Wee or Sleepy Hollow, mostly because it's been a while since I've seen them. The former, probably since I was a kid, although I do remember liking it quite a bit. The latter, since its release, but it has mostly vanished from my mind. I seem to remember thinking it was OK-ish, but again, vanished from my mind. Take from that what you may. For what it's worth, it's also been a good while since I last saw Batman, but that one has stuck more with me.

Also, not that I need to justify it, but I do have a weird fascination with Planet of the Apes for some reason. Saw that in theaters, and have seen it a bunch of times since. I know all its faults, and it doesn't hold a candle to the original; and still I'm mesmerized by it, perhaps for the same reasons why it is a mess.

[LeBoyWondeur]

Any guess on what movie will be the highest ranked that wasn't on the last list? Is this it? Galaxy Quest?
Are you saying that Galaxy Quest was not ranked in the previous 90s countdown?:eek:

[SpelingError]

Carlito's Way was #8 on my ballot. I've talked in the past about how I don't care much for Scarface and consider Carlito's Way to be the superior film. The former film suffers from too much bloat, while the genuinely human story of Carlito's Way resonates with me much better. It's realy a shame Carlito's Way often exists in the shadow of Scarface, beause I think it does numerous things much better. But oh well...

I haven't seen nor heard of A Perfect World.

[SpelingError]

1. Gummo (#97)
2. A Moment of Innocece (#76)
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9. Sonatine (#99)
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[Thursday Next]

I have not seen Carlito's Way but aim to rectify this shortly.


A Perfect World was ok, think I watched it for a hall of fame on here, but don't love it like some do.


Edward Scissorhands was one I thought I would like more than I actually did. Probably should give it another chance sometime soon. Child 3 might like it.


Unpopular opinion time... I don't like Perfect Blue. Firstly, I think the violence is too sexualized to the point of being exploitative. Secondly, the reveal of the main antagonist and everything to do with them and the ending is all deeply silly. There's good stuff in it, though. I do like aspects of Satoshi Kon's films. Millennium Actress is probably the one I found most accessible.

[Thief]

And since we're now talking about De Palma, here's my ranking...


Blow Out (https://www.movieforums.com/reviews/2454687-blow_out.html) - 4
Carlito's Way - 4
Mission: Impossible - 4
Casualties of War (https://www.movieforums.com/reviews/2254856-casualties_of_war.html) - 4
The Untouchables - 4
Femme Fatale - 3.5
Dressed to Kill - 3.5
Carrie - 2.5
Mission to Mars - 2
Scarface - 2
Snake Eyes - 2


When he's on fire, he's on fire; and when he's not, well... he's not. I should give a rewatch to a couple of these, though. It's been a while since I saw The Untouchables and Femme Fatale, but I remember really liking both. I know it might be heresy, but I'm not a very big fan of Carrie and, as you can see there, Scarface. I was really tempted to put that one at the bottom cause it's one that I struggle with.

[Robert the List]

Carlito's Way was #8 on my ballot. I've talked in the past about how I don't care much for Scarface and consider Carlito's Way to be the superior film. The former film suffers from too much bloat, while the genuinely human story of Carlito's Way resonates with me much better. It's realy a shame Carlito's Way often exists in the shadow of Scarface, beause I think it does numerous things much better. But oh well...

I haven't seen nor heard of A Perfect World.
Donnie Brasco??

[SpelingError]

Donnie Brasco??
I haven't seen it either.

[stillmellow]

I thought Beetlejuice Beetlejuice was pretty good. Not as good as the original, but it surprised me as being better than expected.

I've never seen either of today's, and haven't even heard of a Perfect World.

Seen: 28/40

List: 4/25

[Citizen Rules]

I thought Beetlejuice Beetlejuice was pretty good. Not as good as the original, but it surprised me as being better than expected.I might have to watch that one day.

[stillmellow]

I might have to watch that one day.


Katherine O'Hara and Winona Ryder really help it a lot. May have only been meh if they had both phoned it in.

[Miss Vicky]

Katherine O'Hara and Winona Ryder really help it a lot. May have only been meh if they had both phoned it in.

I thought it was still very meh. Definitely not the worst offender of last year's parade of completely unnecessary sequels though (****ing Gladiator II :rolleyes: ).

[Wyldesyde19]

Seen both, and both are actually quite good.

[Thief]

Katherine O'Hara and Winona Ryder really help it a lot. May have only been meh if they had both phoned it in.

They're probably the best part of the film. Their performances and interactions are quite good. Unfortunately, like I said in my review, the film has like a dozen plot strands that either are completely unnecessary and half-baked, don't connect to each other, or both.

[Holden Pike]

Are you saying that Galaxy Quest was not ranked in the previous 90s countdown?:eek:
Correct.

It did place on the MoFo Sci-Fi (#88) and Comedy (#14) lists.

Again, the main thing to remember about the original 1990s list is it was the third ever list, first decade list, and had by far the lowest amount of participation of any decade list.

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[beelzebubble]

Nope and nope. I have seen neither so therefore they are not on my list.
I agree with the sad blue avatar that The Black Swan is not a remake of Perfect Blue. They are not about the same things at all, one about being famous its expectations and pitfalls and the other about the struggle to achieve in a collaborative art that demands so much of your body and mind.
As for Winona Ryder, she was the it girl of the NIneties. Matthew Sweet who was a big deal back then wrote a song about her.

[iluv2viddyfilms]

https://images2.imgbox.com/91/d9/eczHTnbv_o.jpg


I had seen A Perfect World years and years ago when I was either in middle school or high school and I found myself feeling deeply saddened and depressed by the whole thing. Perhaps one of the best things about it is that Eastwood and the screenwriter John Lee Hancock (writer on Kevin Costner's second best film The Highwayman) choose to show the grisly reality and trauma of people - be they a child or adults who are stuck in an environment of both violence and poverty.

The ending is as powerful as any ending you will ever see a film with the young boy (Phillip) having shot Butch (Costner) and only to have Butch say he did the right thing when the two catch up again as Butch is gut shot and dying beside a tree. We see similar themes echo also in the relationship between the Kid and Will Munny in Unforgiven, although with the the Kid there is hope as he's a young man and will forgo the ways of violence, but with Phillip - who knows. The audacity to have a six or seven year old kid hold a gun on a criminal, among others seems like a stroke of brilliance of writing because to be sure Butch is not a hero or a protagonist, but at the same time he's no villain or black hat bad guy. So there's the writing chops, we have this great and oddball relationship and on one hand we feel disgust toward Butch for bringing violence into this situation, but on the other hand we feels there's a bit of endearment for Butch being a father Phillip didn't have and also for saving him for his scoundrel co-escapee, Terry.

Something else I really do love about this film is how it does capture east and north Texas. Just like John Lee Hancock's other great film, The Highwayman, A Perfect world really does look like North Texas. Too often we have images of Texas that are of The Searchers and westerns, which may be true of west and south Texas, but having been to Dallas and driven in the north part of Texas it looks very much midwestern - not too dissimilar from Oklahoma, Kansas, Missouri, Iowa, and parts of eastern Nebraska and I believe A Perfect World was also shot in Texas. The film really does capture the time and place of the backroads of Texas in the early 1960s.

The only part of A Perfect World that could be cause for criticism might be some of the tonal shifts. The scenes with Costner as Butch are brilliant, whereas the scenes with Eastwood and Laura Dern are just fine, and I get why they are there - obviously we have two simultaneous stories going on... the robber and the cop, but there are times where the scenes with Eastwood and Dern's character lag just a bit and detract from the melancholy vibe of the scenes between Butch and the Kid and the whole surrogate father stuff. It's a minor quibble, but of note. I'd say the film mostly makes up for this by how the stories of Red and Butch intersect and avoid a typical Hollywood ending. The fact is, we all have stuff in our lives and many times, unlike Hollywood, it doesn't always get neatly resolved if at all.

What Eastwood does great is theme and archetypes and the film does say a lot about child abuse, the criminal justice system, fatherhood, and the soul twisting nature of being exposed to violence and a loss of innocence that once gone - can never be reclaimed. This is not necessarily ground breaking stuff, but what is remarkable is how it does all this wrapped in a strong story and road movie thriller of the law going after the outlaw. Another film, aside from the aforementioned The Highwayman, is yet another criminally underrated film, John Ford's The Three Godfathers. Although the Ford film doesn't get nearly as dark as this, there as similarities.

https://pics.imcdb.org/4691/perfectworld60.jpg

Really cool to see it make the list AND I had A Perfect World as my 17th pick on my top 25 doing my part in having it make the countdown.


Viddy's 90's Redux list so far...

10. Dead Man
14. Glengarry Glenn Ross
17. A Perfect World
19. Close-Up
25. Beauty and the Beast



https://collider.com/clint-eastwood-movie-a-perfect-world/

[Captain Quint]

Swan and Blue are not remakes, but there are visual similarities.

https://youtu.be/1Ny_Uz6iKSs?si=7-WTT8jNaZwIsJgG

[Little Ash]

I've not seen Black Swan, nor have read the general Aronofsky quotes about it, but my understanding is that he did explicitly say A Perfect Blue inspired/influenced him. Which is very different than it being a re-make, as Quinn said. I would expect to see visual similarities, similar tones/pacing, and possible homages sprinkled about in it. Not saying there are, since I haven't seen it, but talk about it being a re-make or not sounds like it's misunderstanding what the claim usually is.


Um, wrt A Perfect Blue, I can't remember if I saw it in theaters during its US release or just calendar spots for it at the repertory theater along with at least the trailer (it had a Roger Corman quote comparing it to a mix of Disney and Hitchcock, I think. I recall, still decades later, at the need to compare anything animated to Disney). I recall being a bit disappointed by it in a way of feeling I had seen something like its plot before, where I was hoping for something special. I didn't see another Satoshi Kon work until a decade later, at which point I went through most of them and warmed up to my memory of A Perfect Blue, though it still kind of lives close to the middle or bottom of his filmography for me.


It's a decade old opinion and viewing, but I do think Paranoia Agent (not a movie) was my favorite of his. And Paprika my favorite movie.

[gbgoodies]

I saw A Perfect World for a HoF a while back, and I know that liked it, but I don't remember much about it except that I thought it was one of Kevin Costner's best performances. I wanted to rewatch it for this countdown, but unfortunately life got in the way and I didn't get a chance, so it didn't make my list.


I haven't seen Carlito's Way.

[Holden Pike]

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[Holden Pike]

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True story: ever since 1993, anytime I have thrown away dead batteries I have palmed them, casually walked to the trashcan and said, "Adiós, Counselor."

AA batteries are the best, but AAAs will do.

[Captain Quint]

I had A Perfect World at #8 but wish I'd have pushed it up a hair to 7, so it would be our first with 100 - we don't have an even 100, we jump to 101 today. That's a weird and trivial thought, I know, but I would have liked a 100 pointer on the top 100.

And the story shared about Costner refusing to come out of trailer makes me chuckle, as if that would stop Clint. This is a guy who'll use a plastic baby doll in a future film when the real one has a sick day. Star won't come out and do his job, grab a stand-in, hell dress up a mannequin and put it out in the field... you're not going to slow Eastwood down!

And back to the countdown...

[Captain Quint]

6lists101pointsToy Story 2 (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/863-toy-story-2.html)Director
John Lasseter, 1999

Starring
Tom Hanks, Tim Allen, Joan Cusack, Kelsey Grammer

[Captain Quint]

9lists101pointsJFK (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/820-jfk.html)Director
Oliver Stone, 1991

Starring
Kevin Costner, Tommy Lee Jones, Gary Oldman, Kevin Bacon

[Captain Quint]

2-way tiebreaker broken up by first tiebreaker, total ballots (9 to 6)

Another day with Costner... the editing is a standout on JFK, which won Joe Hutshing and Pietro Scalia an Oscar in that category. One who wasn't award but involved was Hank Corwin. From wiki - "JFK marked a fundamental change in the way that Stone constructed his films: a subjective lateral presentation of the plot, with the editing's rhythm carrying the story. Stone brought in Hank Corwin, an editor of commercials, to help edit the film. Stone chose him because his "chaotic mind" was "totally alien to the film form." Stone also commented that Corwin "had not developed the long form yet. And so a lot of his cuts were very chaotic." Stone employed extensive use of flashbacks within flashbacks for a specific effect."

Toy Story 2 was a hurried production due to the crew not being really happy with the initial work, they wanted to redo it, but Disney wouldn't give them an extension, the team had to work tirelessly to bring it in on time. John Lasseter was assisted by 2 co-directors, Lee Unkrich and Ash Brannon. Brannon focused on development, story and animation, Lasseter was in charge of art, modeling and lighting, and Unkrich oversaw editorial, cinematography, and layout.

All of that effort resulted in a movie that looked better than the first.

The short Luxo Jr. was shown before the move in theaters.

Both made the previous 90s countdown, Toy2 was #53, JFK #77

[Holden Pike]

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JFK's only other appearance was #77 on the initial MoFo Top 100 of the 1990s while Toy Story 2 finished #53 there plus #16 on the MoFo Top 100 Animated Films.

[dadgumblah]

Toy Story is a great sequel to the first film and maybe even equal to it, IMO. Still, I didn't vote for it. I voted for another animated film.

JFK is a movie that I like but don't love. It was very good and had a lot of interesting casting choices but Oliver Stone bugs me with how he treats history, unlike say Quentin Tarantino, who changes things in history to how he wished it would have been, IMO. Stone just threw a lot of theories out there, too much for me. Still, it's a compelling movie for me somehow. No votes today.

My list:
#25 Apollo 13 list proper #68

[Allaby]

JFK was my number 20. It's an excellent film with a great cast, a fantastic screenplay and masterfully well directed. Toy Story 2 is an entertaining sequel, but was not in consideration for my ballot.

Seen:42/42