The MoFos Top 100 of the 90s Countdown - Redux

[mattiasflgrtll6]

What the ****. I knew very well it was Kalifornia! Why did my brain screw me over like that? I've even seen both movies :facepalm:

[Allaby]

I've seen and liked both Sonatine and What’s Eating Gilbert Grape, but neither were in contention for my ballot.

[dadgumblah]

Haven't seen Sonatine and I've been meaning to see What's Eating Gilbert Grape forever but I guess it will be forever and a day. No joy so far.

[stillmellow]

I like Sonatine very much, but it didn't make my top 25. It definitely makes my top 50 90's movies though. Gilbert Grape is also a very good film. I'm surprised neither made it closer to the middle of the list. Especially Sonatine, considering it was #43 last time.

Sonatine's greatest weakness is it definitely favors style over substance. It also only has one really strong performance, from Takeshi.

Gilbert Grape has a similar problem, where our titular character and his brother really outshine the rest of the cast.

Seen: 2/2
List: 0/25

[LeBoyWondeur]

What's Eating Gilbert Grape?
...that the movie only made #100, geez:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
Shocking, indeed! I was convinced it was a no-brainer for most voters.
But I've never heard of the other film so I guess that evens it out.

[ApexPredator]

Sonatine? Haven't seen it.

What's Eating Gilbert Grape? That I saw. But not quite there for my list.

My one pointer? It was Hurricane Streets. Happened to see this one on base at Fort Sill via a rental. We had a theater on base, but two better ones across base in nearby Lawton (I think one was like a 8 screen multiplex and the other one was a 6). I grew up watching a bunch of the typical films of the time, but having gone through basic and AIT, I was in search of something off the beaten path. And I found it in a story about a streetwise teen who battles between getting caught up in crime with some of his friends or a nice girl who wants to head to Alaska one day. The teen wants to go back to New Mexico with his mother who is in prison for smuggling illegal immigrants into that state. But the truth gets complicated as facts come out about his mother, the crimes that the teens commit increase in consequences and the danger faced by Melena. A few actors you may have heard of are in this: The Soprano's Edie Falco, Big's David Moscow, and Adrian Grenier who would find the 2000s better suited to him with Entourage. But the center? A memorable turn from Brendan Sexton III. And the director was Morgan J. Freeman who would find the 2000s memorable for his turn as a reality producer (Laguna Beach, Teen Mom 1-2).

As for the RT hint? A portion of the poster served as my first avatar.

[Harry Lime]

Sorry I'm a bit late...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbHwbgIELCc

[Omnizoa]

No link from the Prelim thread? Somebody incredibly brave and handsome should do something about that.
The 1-Pointers
...
The Legend of Drunken Master
Possibly features the greatest Jackie Chan fight scene of any movie he's starred in, no question... but you gotta slog through a whole shitty movie of Chan acting like an insufferable drunk to get to it.

I would argue that the first Drunken Master is better, not just because Chan's character is not ordinarily shit-faced, but because it's one of the most densely packed with fights. Battle Creek Brawl is also packed with fights, but Drunken Master actually features Chan's trademark improvisational weaponry so the quality of the fights is significantly better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lwKwMpbxao

Anyway I didn't get a 1-pointer and I haven't heard of most of them.

Can someone give me a crash course on the Drunken Master movies? I like Jackie Chan but have only seen the Police Stories and Rumble in the Bronx. Looking up Drunken Master on IMDB and the information is baffling.There are only 2, Drunken Master, and Drunken Master 2 (a.k.a. Legend of Drunken Master). Drunken Master was however filmed back-to-back with Snake in the Eagle's Shadow, which is an extremely similar movie, featuring the same actors, same general plot, and locations.

[Harry Lime]

The reveal posts look great, well done!

https://i.pinimg.com/474x/99/8e/b9/998eb9ab1e0912e40ba1ad875eb7675d.jpg

I am one of those people that keeps voting for Sonatine. This time I had it #20. What can I say, Takeshi Kitano makes me want to turn the TV up louder any time i see him.

I love the stillness and mundane, the explosion of violence, the nihilism. This tops the list of his films although it was a great decade for him: Hana-bi, Kikujiro, and my other favourite, Boiling Point. Certainly his best decade.

What's Eating Gilbert Grape is good. I don't love it but I'm fine with it here.

20. Sonatine (1993)

[beelzebubble]

Some interesting pictures there.

The Ox was directed by cinematographer Sven Nyquist and features some top notch acting, especially from Stellan Skarsgård. https://letterboxd.com/film/the-ox/




i have definitely seen this. I was a big Stellan Skarsgard fan in the nineties.

[Wyldesyde19]

It just occurred to me I forgot to put Center Stage by Kwan on my ballot.
That’s two films I should have included. The Addiction was the other I previously mentioned. Grrrff

[Wyldesyde19]

i have definitely seen this. I was a big Stellan Skarsgard fan in the nineties.
You, madam, have good taste. 👍

[beelzebubble]

Presentation? Me, I love it, I had no clue what Yoda was going to come up with look wise, and I was no help at all, what the hell do the 90s look like anyway?
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Lots of flannel and denim.

[Robert the List]

Oasis.

[SpelingError]

I haven't seen What's Eating Gilbert Grape? yet.

Sonatine was #9 on my ballot. Glad to see my high ranking gave it a spot on this countdown.

[SpelingError]

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[iluv2viddyfilms]

After watching What’s Eating Gilbert Grape, I decided to watch some of Juliette Lewis' 90s films as she impressed me as a really solid actress. Last night I watched That Night (1992) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0105572/), good film and a strong performance from Juliette Lewis.

For me, Juliette Lewis was the it girl in the 1990s. I know people loved Parker Posey and Winona Ryder in the 1990s, but for my mileage Juliette Lewis was the queen of the angsty gen x actresses who walked back and forth between mainstream and more indie faire. She will always be Danielle in the underrated Cape Fear remake to me, but I loved her in Natural Born Killers as well as Husbands and Wives, Kalifornia, Strange Days, From Dusk till Dawn, and to exit the decade The Way of the Gun (2000).

What's Eating Gilbert Grape is a wonderful film, and while it was never in consideration for my ballot, I'm glad it made the top 100. Having lived in Iowa my entire life, and as someone who is desperately trying to talk my wife into one day moving to Florida, away from this land of fake-nice and no natural beauty nor urban or cultural benefits, I can tell you that What's Eating Gilbert Grape captures the state perfectly. Also it does capture one thing that rarely gets portrayed well in film, and that's rural poverty. We're used to seeing either inner city poverty in ghettos or poverty in the backwoods in the deep south in places like Mississippi. Rarely do films explore poverty in fly over states like Nebraska, Iowa, and non-ChicagoLand Illinois.

In fact, Iowa is strange because it's the land of farm welfare and farming dominates this state politically, economically, and culturally even though fewer than five percent of Iowans farm, and less than one percent of that five even owns farmland. Yet in the middle of places like Endora (fictional name) Iowa - population 2,000 or so, we have people working two minimum wage 30-hour per week dead end jobs... one at the Walmart and the other at the Casey's General Store who will see people stop in their stores who are multi-multi-multi millionaire farmers thriving on overpriced land who own million dollar combines and harvesters (paid for by the dime of those making $40,000/year and under via gov't subsidies); farmers who have net worths that would absolutely shame some of the biggest midtown Manhattan executives. What's Easting Gilbert Grape is a film that really captures this state. Obesity epidemic and everything.

But yeah, it's an honest film and I'm torn on Lasse Hallstrom... on one hand he puts out wonderful films like What's Eating Gilbert Grape and Chocolat and then he can also make films that are complete trash and garbage like The Cider House Rules and The Shipping News.

As for Sonatine, I remember watching it and liking it a lot, but it was years ago and it's due for a re-watch as I don't remember it enough to even attempt to give a fair assessment of the film.

Good start to the list.

[gbgoodies]

I rewatched What's Eating Gilbert Grape for this countdown and I liked it. I realized that I like Johnny Depp more in his earlier roles than in his more recent roles playing quirky characters. I also think that this movie is Leonardo DiCaprio's best performance. I considered it for my list, but it ended up getting cut. But I'm surprised that it wasn't higher on the countdown.

I'm pretty sure that I watched Sonatine for a HoF a while back, and I think it was one of those movies that I respect more than like, but I don't remember much about the movie.

[Captain Quint]

4lists63pointsThe Celebration (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/309-the-celebration.html)Director
Thomas Vinterberg, 1998

Starring
Ulrich Thomsen, Henning Moritzen, Thomas Bo Larsen, Paprika Steen

[Captain Quint]

3lists64pointsGummo (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/18415-gummo.html)Director
Harmony Korine, 1997

Starring
Jacob Sewell, Nick Sutton, Lara Tosh, Jacob Reynolds

[Captain Quint]

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The Celebration (Danish: Festen) was the first film of the Dogme 95 movement, which was created by Thomas Vinterberg and his fellow Danish director Lars von Trier. I liked this one...

But what can I say about Gummo? Every time I think about Gummo I need a bath - but not like the grubby bath with the filthy water the kid took near the end of this picture.

Interestingly the director of Gummo, Harmony Korine, became the first non-European and the first American to make a film categorized as Dogme (Julien Donkey-Boy - Dogme #6), despite not adhering to all the rules of the movement.

Neither movie was ranked in the previous 90s countdown

[Holden Pike]

106961

The Celebration - Festen was #51 on the MoFo Top 100 Foreign Films. This is the first appearance of Gummo on a MoFo list.

[ueno_station54]

oh yay something on my ballot did make it. i had gummo at #6 (the celebration is a cool movie too)

[Allaby]

I've seen The Celebration and didn't like it. I haven't seen Gummo.

Seen: 3/4

[exiler96]

Juliette Lewis, in her hey days, here in one of her four cult films in a row, wow! Hope the other three also going to make the list. To share here, I had a crush on this lady in those years.

THE LEWIS BREEZE is indeed an amazing thing from the 90s. It might've been this thread in which I suggested Parker Posey deserved a better filmography (yes she's done alright, but an actress of her caliber deserved something even better is what I'm saying)... if I could've improved a second actress' resume it would've been Juliette's, who pretty much steals every scene she's in.

https://pa1.aminoapps.com/6866/8f62d62ca3e6ea29e6ce42c7034cb5f0d9a51a83r1-500-281_hq.gif

And yeah, Festen didn't do much for me either. Weird that I usually like Von Trier but haven't clicked with Vinterberg yet.

[MovieGal]

I have seen both Gummo and The Celebration but neither made my list.

[John-Connor]

For fans of Festen actor Ulrich Thomsen I recommend Cinemax 2013 TV show Banshee.

Seen 4/4
Ballot 00/25

[MovieGal]

For fans of Festen actor Ulrich Thomsen I recommend Cinemax 2013 TV show Banshee.

Seen 4/4
Ballot 00/25

Hes in a lot of good foreign films and American films.

Love him in Opium Diary of a Madwoman and Adams Apples. Hes in a Danish film called Fear Me Not, which is pretty fxcked up.

[Captain Quint]

My favorite Ulrich performance is in Susan Biers Brothers (2004) - just a crushing film (better than the US redo), and his final scene is so, so heartbreaking.

[seanc]

Interesting pairing. Celebration is pretty good for me but I am sure the unpleasantness is what is keeping me from loving it. I would watch it a third time at some point.

Korine just doesn’t seem to be for me, I guess Gummo is interesting in its wsy. I really have no interest in seeing it again though.

[Miss Vicky]

I watched Festen for a Hall of Fame several years back. I thought it was very good but I haven't rewatched it and it didn't get my vote.

I haven't seen Gummo.

Seen: 3/4
My Balllot:
25. Untamed Heart (One Pointer)

[seanc]

I've seen The Celebration and didn't like it. I haven't seen Gummo.

Seen: 3/4

Over/Under 5 hours before we get a post that you watched this?

Surprised this is one you haven’t checked out. Not a Korine fan?

[kgaard]

The Celebration is a good one. I didn't consider it strongly for my list, but it probably deserves a place.

I havn't seen Gummo. In fact, I only recently watched my first Korine film: Trash Humpers, which I wouldn't say I loved but I did find it weirdly affecting by the end. So I'm not averse to seing more.

[Little Ash]

Korine is one of those directors you've heard about for a while (I guess in my case, it's been probably 20 years now), and for whatever reason, I've only ever watched Spring Breakers, which I enjoyed, but everything else seems to exist in this space of, "I don't know. Maybe I should finally watch this at some point to see how I actually feel about his movies, because I have no clue if I'd like them or hate them, it sounds like he's pretty polarizing." But it never really gets out of the, "yeah, maybe I should one day," stage. I just always internalized Spring Breakers is his much more mainstream appealing movie (comparatively). No idea if that's true.


Vinterberg is a director whose movies come up periodically on the podcasts I listen to, but I've never actually watched any of his films. My dogme-95 viewing is pretty much non-existent other than the von Trier stuff I've seen. One of those, "I should probably check this stuff out at least a little bit," but other things often take a higher priority.


Seen: 0 for 4.

[Harry Lime]

What a fun pair. The perfect double feature for a rainy Saturday afternoon with the family. I like The Celebration quite a bit and don't like Gummo quite a bit. But hey, Gummo fans, I get it. It's been a while since I've seen either and these are two that I don't feel the need to rewatch. That said pretty cool these two are posted together. So far so good, Mofo.

[Allaby]

Over/Under 5 hours before we get a post that you watched this?

Surprised this is one you haven’t checked out. Not a Korine fan?
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Parts of the description and some of the plot details concern me and make me hesitant to watch it. I’ve only seen 2 Korine films, Spring Breakers and Beach Bum. I really liked Spring Breakers. I thought Beach Bum was just okay.

[Holden Pike]

Parts of [Gummo's] description and some of the plot details concern me and make me hesitant to watch it.
If you're looking for a "plot", don't go to Gummo. Spring Breakers in War & Peace, by comparison.

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[Citizen Rules]

I have not seen Gummo but I've seen The Celebration aka Festen in the 26th HoF:

The Celebration (Vinterberg, 1998)
I'm SURE I'm going to be the odd member out here with my opinion of The Celebration...So go ahead and give me crap if you want:p...but I disdained this movie!...It literally wore me out and made me tired just watching it. I swear in the first 20 minutes I was already exhausted like I had just watched a 12 hour movie marathon. To make matters worse there were so many loud and uber dramatic characters at the start, that it was hard for me to sort out who was who and doing what...and why were all these people there in that one big estate.

I blame that damn shaky cam. I hate that thing unless it's used with extreme prudence. And I was drove near crazy by the camera-in-the-face of the actors. So many of the shots were extreme close-ups that it gave me a headache...Then when the film actually showed a wide angle shot, it often was crappy looking shot-from-the-ceiling or view-from-the-floor. I have to say this was the ugliest camera work I've seen in a movie. It was anti-Lawrence of Arabia.

I also wasn't buying the overly dramatic acting that resembled reality TV. I swear the Kardashians did the same over acting for the camera. The worst must have been the chief and house staff in the basement kitchen running around dramatically stealing everyone's car keys so they couldn't leave, didn't I see the same thing on The Simpsons?

[MovieGal]

Gummo was an interesting watch for me. I understand it was a film, but do people really live like that? Maybe but its the lowest of the low.

Its not a terrible film but its only one of 3(?) Korine films I will watch.

I have Kids on dvd but haven't watched it. Also I have Gummo on dvd.

[mattiasflgrtll6]

I went to a cinema showing of The Celebration earlier this year, with the director arriving for a lifetime achievement award ceremony and afterwards a Q&A. It was really fun.

As for the movie itself, the story is really sad and depressing, but there's also an undercurrent of dark comedy in most of the scenes. It's such a nightmare of a social gathering that you can't help but laugh at the whole futility and patheticness of it all. Like the guests who are such cowards they keep throwing the accuser out over and over again, and the staff forcing everyone to torture themselves through the most awkward and cringeworthy proceedings. It's like the most toxic realization of "good vibes only" you can possibly imagine.

Glad to see it on here.

Haven't seen Gummo, but it sounds like a fascinating experience. The only Korine I've seen is Julien Donkey-Boy which I didn't really care for (Though Werner Herzog was funny as hell), so maybe this one would fare better.

[ApexPredator]

Hadn't seen The Celebration/Festen. Although there's a decent chance that happens this year.

Haven't seen Gummo. And not so sure I want to, if that makes any sense.

[Thief]

Oof, two donuts for me. I've been reading/hearing good things about The Celebration since Another Round came up. I just haven't gotten to it.

Gummo seems to be like something that might be interesting to watch. I've hesitated to watch it for quite a while now and I wasn't a big fan of Spring Breakers, but I'm pretty sure I'll get to it.

[rauldc14]

SC has got to have fallen off his rocker with the start of the countdown this time.

Really guys!!!! This ain't the nineties!!!!

[Wyldesyde19]

Seen The Celebration
Haven’t seen Gummo yet.
1/4.

Good start, 3 new films in the list. This is why I wanted a refresh

[MovieGal]

SC has got to have fallen off his rocker with the start of the countdown this time.

Really guys!!!! This ain't the nineties!!!!

This isn't your nineties but 3 out of 4 isnt bad.

Waiting for response from someone to see if Sonatine would be a good watch for me based on my top film list.

[MovieMeditation]

Ouch...

The Celebration was my #1 and I'm a little sad to see it this low. But at least it made the list.

And while I am indeed Danish, this wasn't some "nationality-nudging" that I put it at number one (okay, maybe a tiny bit). But I genuinely think it's an amazing film. A masterpiece in Danish cinema and of course groundbreaking for its dogme fundament and approach, stripping cinema completely bare to the bone like the revealing truths of the plotline.

The film contains some of the absolute best actors and actresses in Denmark and they all deliver wonderfully in their respective roles. The combination of extremely dark and disturbing themes paired with an almost absurdly dark humor is such a Danish thing that the film as a whole feels like something that could only come out of Denmark. Kind of like the semi-recent 2022 release Speak No Evil - where the film sort of puts a spoofing spin on Danish politeness - Festen was first to to kind of play around with formalities and willingness to overlook certain things as to not ruin the "good mood".

I have seen the film several times and still find it to be a great and important piece of cinema.

As for the other one, I haven't seen it.

[Wyldesyde19]

Just realized I forgot to put Thief on my ballot. Really excellent Russian film.
Damn. I should have been more thorough.

[crumbsroom]

Korine is one of those directors you've heard about for a while (I guess in my case, it's been probably 20 years now), and for whatever reason, I've only ever watched Spring Breakers, which I enjoyed, but everything else seems to exist in this space of, "I don't know. Maybe I should finally watch this at some point to see how I actually feel about his movies, because I have no clue if I'd like them or hate them, it sounds like he's pretty polarizing." But it never really gets out of the, "yeah, maybe I should one day," stage. I just always internalized Spring Breakers is his much more mainstream appealing movie (comparatively). No idea if that's true.


Vinterberg is a director whose movies come up periodically on the podcasts I listen to, but I've never actually watched any of his films. My dogme-95 viewing is pretty much non-existent other than the von Trier stuff I've seen. One of those, "I should probably check this stuff out at least a little bit," but other things often take a higher priority.


Seen: 0 for 4.


Gummo is probably the best film of that decade. And I wouldn't call Spring Breakers his most mainstream, it just happened to be the one that tricked the most mainstream audience members into seeing it. Beach Bum or Mr Lonely would be that, and as a result, they are easily two of his least interesting movies.

[Robert the List]

Heard of 1/4
Seen 0/4

[Thursday Next]

Festen aka The Celebration was my #8. Such a gripping and raw cinema experience. Helped, not hindered by the shakycam in my view.

[MovieGal]

Heard of 1/4
Seen 0/4

Dont limit yourself to what you consider masterpieces. Open up to others and you will discover your taste is wider than what it really is.

[Thursday Next]

Waiting for response from someone to see if Sonatine would be a good watch for me based on my top film list.


...maybe? I think you wouldn't be against the occasional outbreaks of violence which might put some people off. Although the charm of the movie is mostly just gangsters hanging out at the beach. I don't even know why I like Sonatine so much, it's an indescribable quality rather than theme or genre.

[honeykid]

oh and making sure I got home in time to watch MST3K when a new ep aired. Which actually helped me to appreciate B-movies (some folks think fans of that show must hate those flicks, in my case, quite the opposite, I came to have much affection for them).

I don't know if I'd even like that programme if I didn't love B-Movies?

The 90s made up around half of my teenage years and half of my 20s - and that seems like such a long time ago now.
That's because it was. :( But then, you have to remember these wise words, as expressed in my 1 pointer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRtuwpjEsZo


Kita O's direction and acting help it to get by, which is incredible considering that this man started out as a comedian and even had his own game show. 75/100


One which was revived by Amazon Prime a couple of years ago and I can recommend. :up:

[MovieGal]

...maybe? I think you wouldn't be against the occasional outbreaks of violence which might put some people off. Although the charm of the movie is mostly just gangsters hanging out at the beach. I don't even know why I like Sonatine so much, it's an indescribable quality rather than theme or genre.

I gave this member my top film list from letterboxd for them to review.

I love violence in cinema. Im a Wick fan. Hes pretty violent.

[MovieMeditation]

Festen aka The Celebration was my #8. Such a gripping and raw cinema experience. Helped, not hindered by the shakycam in my view.
Finally! A person with taste! :love:

[rauldc14]

I mean what the heck is next Kindergarten Cop and Flubber!?!

[MovieMeditation]

I mean what the heck is next Kindergarten Cop and Flubber!?!
Personally I’m hoping more for a Shaq dual pairing in Steel and Kazaam!

[Thursday Next]

I mean what the heck is next Kindergarten Cop and Flubber!?!


Con Air and The Hole. Normal service will resume.

[Thursday Next]

Personally I’m hoping more for a Shaq dual pairing in Steel and Kazaam!


Or maybe that great 90s movie Shazaam?

[Robert the List]

Dont limit yourself to what you consider masterpieces. Open up to others and you will discover your taste is wider than what it really is.
I know my interests by now though, and it's only the greatest films.

I'd rather read than watch non-great films.

Just me.

[MovieMeditation]

Dont limit yourself to what you consider masterpieces. Open up to others and you will discover your taste is wider than what it really is.
Robert has seen all great movies there is, unfortunately. No more is left.

And if you recommend one he hasn’t seen he’s most likely to give it a Joaquin-Phoenix-in-Gladiator thumbs down because if he hasn’t seen it… it’s not great! Simple as that.

[MovieGal]

Robert has seen all great movies there is, unfortunately. No more is left.

And if you recommend one he hasn’t seen he’s most likely to give it a Joaquin-Phoenix-in-Gladiator thumbs down because if he hasn’t seen it… it’s not great! Simple as that.

He has seen only what he considers great, not what others consider great.

[Robert the List]

He has seen only what he considers great, not what others consider great.
Actually MG, I identified what I now consider great, through what others consider great.

[stillmellow]

No link from the Prelim thread? Somebody incredibly brave and handsome should do something about that.

Possibly features the greatest Jackie Chan fight scene of any movie he's starred in, no question... but you gotta slog through a whole shitty movie of Chan acting like an insufferable drunk to get to it.

I would argue that the first Drunken Master is better, not just because Chan's character is not ordinarily shit-faced, but because it's one of the most densely packed with fights. Battle Creek Brawl is also packed with fights, but Drunken Master actually features Chan's trademark improvisational weaponry so the quality of the fights is significantly better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lwKwMpbxao

Anyway I didn't get a 1-pointer and I haven't heard of most of them.

There are only 2, Drunken Master, and Drunken Master 2 (a.k.a. Legend of Drunken Master). Drunken Master was however filmed back-to-back with Snake in the Eagle's Shadow, which is an extremely similar movie, featuring the same actors, same general plot, and locations.



The first Drunken Master was arguably a better movie with an extremely low budget. Jacki Chan's charisma is amazing!


The second one has a higher budget, and although I don't consider it a slog, I agree it's much slower paced than the original. But who can complain after a finale like that? The battle in the factory is legendary.

[MovieGal]

Actually MG, I identified what I now consider great, through what others consider great.

I consider this a masterpiece by a cinematic master. Have you seen it?

Salò, or The 120 Days of Sodom (1976)

I know a few others here do as well.

[Robert the List]

I consider this a masterpiece by a cinematic master. Have you seen it?

Salò, or The 120 Days of Sodom (1976)

I know a few others here do as well.
I tried it.

[Wyldesyde19]

Actually MG, I identified what I now consider great, through what others consider great.

I guess the serious question I have here is how do you consider a film great if you haven’t seen it yet? And if you’re going by what others consider great, then wouldn’t that mean watching films recommended here in mofo? Especially on these lists?
I have reservations with Gummo, but I’ll eventually watch it regardless if I like it or not, and I wouldn’t consider it a waste of time because, to quote the late Mark F, it exists.

[stillmellow]

Ugh

These are two movies I have neither seen or want to see. I'll take everyone else's word for it that they're good. Although Gummo scores more points with me for originality.

I've read synopsis of the Celebration and is it me, or is the big secret in all movies and books like this some form of child abuse? Yes, it's an important topic to discuss, but it almost feels cliche at this point. Then again, this was from the 90's. But these days i watch any movie about a wealthy family with a dominant Patriarch and a big secret, and i take child abuse for granted.

Seen: 2/4
List: 0/25

[Robert the List]

I guess the serious question I have here is how do you consider a film great if you haven’t seen it yet? And if you’re going by what others consider great, then wouldn’t that mean watching films recommended here in mofo? Especially on these lists?
I have reservations with Gummo, but I’ll eventually watch it regardless if I like it or not, and I wouldn’t consider it a waste of time because, to quote the late Mark F, it exists.
My mission was to find the greatest ever movies.
I was only interested in watching movies until I no longer considered them such candidates.
It allowed me to create the list I did and find the films I did (a different thread to this one incidentally).

I'm not knocking films others have enjoyed at all. There is just no need for me personally to see them.

[MovieGal]

I tried it.

Do not try, succeed.

[MovieGal]

Robert the List

Baby's Day Out was recommended to me recently. I told the person, because it was late at night, I will watch it tomorrow morning. And at 6:30am, I was watching it.

Would it have been a personal choice? Probably not, but I kept my word and it wasn't bad.

[KeyserCorleone]

My mission was to find the greatest ever movies.
I was only interested in watching movies until I no longer considered them such candidates.
It allowed me to create the list I did and find the films I did (a different thread to this one incidentally).

I'm not knocking films others have enjoyed at all. There is just no need for me personally to see them.

What you consider great is a criteria that only you can decide for yourself. Sure, you can check on things like ratings and popularity, but the real criteria of greatness is yours alone. Thus, that's reason enough to keep looking: you never know what will meet that criteria. You could find something amazing out of the blue. For example, I've been on a major symphonic prog rock binge, and I've heard over 15000 albums, finding amazing albums was getting really difficult as I had gone through roughly 200 albums, but I still found a lot of "great" stuff as there's plenty of room for undiscovered greats. But never in a million years did I think that Solaris' Nostradamus would enter my top 100 albums of all time, even topping symphonic's popular crowning achievement: Close to the Edge by Yes.

KEEP SEARCHING.


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Just finished The Celebration. I needed another Thomas Vinterberg anyway. GOD, I was hoping this wouldn't be extremely hard to watch like The Hunt. The effect the movie leaves on you is powerful, because you know that the dark situations that lead to those reveals are happening somewhere right now. But the lack of likable traits among the cast makes this almost impossible for me to watch a second time.


92/100. Seen 2/4. And of course, Vinterberg needs one more film the get a score on my Best Director's List, not that anyone gives a crap about that on a countdown. ;)

[Robert the List]

What you consider great is a criteria that only you can decide for yourself. Sure, you can check on things like ratings and popularity, but the real criteria of greatness is yours alone. Thus, that's reason enough to keep looking: you never know what will meet that criteria. You could find something amazing out of the blue. For example, I've been on a major symphonic prog rock binge, and I've heard over 15000 albums, finding amazing albums was getting really difficult as I had gone through roughly 200 albums, but I still found a lot of "great" stuff as there's plenty of room for undiscovered greats. But never in a million years did I think that Solaris' Nostradamus would enter my top 100 albums of all time, even topping symphonic's popular crowning achievement: Close to the Edge by Yes.

KEEP SEARCHING.


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Just finished The Celebration. I needed another Thomas Vinterberg anyway. GOD, I was hoping this wouldn't be extremely hard to watch like The Hunt. The effect the movie leaves on you is powerful, because you know that the dark situations that lead to those reveals are happening somewhere right now. But the lack of likable traits among the cast makes this almost impossible for me to watch a second time.


92/100. Seen 2/4. And of course, Vinterberg needs one more film the get a score on my Best Director's List, not that anyone gives a crap about that on a countdown. ;)
I do invite you to enjoy the thread in which I compiled the 100 greatest movies. :up:

[KeyserCorleone]

I do invite you to enjoy the thread in which I compiled the 100 greatest movies. :up:

You mean which you believe to be the 100 greatest movies. How long have you been critiquing, by the way?

[MovieGal]

You mean which you believe to be the 100 greatest movies. How long have you been critiquing, by the way?

This is his version of 100 Great but im sure its different than anyone else.

[cricket]

I'm kind of glad to see Gummo show because of its type, but I don't think it's all that good.

I'm glad to see The Celebration show because it's good. I like most of the few Danish films I've seen.

[MovieGal]

I'm kind of glad to see Gummo show because of its type, but I don't think it's all that good.

I'm glad to see The Celebration show because it's good. I like most of the few Danish films I've seen.

Great minds think alike!

[iluv2viddyfilms]

I haven't seen either Gummo or The Celebration, however The Celebration is on the Criterion Channel so I'm starting it now. Thomas Vinterberg did make The Hunt however which is in my top five films of the 2010s.

[MovieGal]

I haven't seen either Gummo or The Celebration, however The Celebration is on the Criterion Channel so I'm starting it now. Thomas Vinterberg did make The Hunt however which is in my top five films of the 2010s.

Jagten is one of 3 films i gave 5 out of 5 stars.

[Takoma11]

I haven't seen The Celebration in a while, but I remember it being one of those films where I was both very aware of the filmmaking taking place, but at the same time very involved in the story itself.

It wasn't on my list, and while I don't think it would have made the final cut for me, it's a film I definitely overlooked while whittling things down. Very glad to see it represented here.

I know I liked both Gilbert Grape and Sonatine, but neither was in strong contention for my list.

I haven't seen Gummo and I'm not in a huge rush to do so. I think it's one of those films that I'm more interested in hearing others talk about than actually watching myself.

[dadgumblah]

I've not seen The Celebration and usually if I want to see a movie but someone says it's bad, I don't listen and check it out for myself. But after hearing quite a few descriptions of it and especially after Citizen Rules disdained it!, I really have no desire to see it. But maybe some day I will find a movie that I can not only disdain but revile! :p I kid! I joke! But seriously, it's got so many strong reactions either way, I just don't know...Okay, check that joking comment above---there is a movie that will make this countdown that I do revile and I will tell when it shows. Grrr.

I've heard of Gummo and I don't want to see it. Doesn't seem to be my, ahem, jam.

My tally so far: Goose eggs

[beelzebubble]

SC has got to have fallen off his rocker with the start of the countdown this time.

Really guys!!!! This ain't the nineties!!!!


I think he would have approved of my list. It is mostly comedies and a few dramatic favorites thrown i for good measure.

[beelzebubble]

Also if anyone wants a quick recap of the first 90s countdown here you go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCNnruQE0fA

Credit: weeman (https://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=78785)
This really sent me. so funny! I miss Sexy.

[Robert the List]

You mean which you believe to be the 100 greatest movies. How long have you been critiquing, by the way?
I'm exceptionally efficient at this kind of thing, and I've devoted several thousand hours to it. I'm personally content that I've done an excellent job, and whilst I appreciate that there are likely some films I have missed, I'm satisfied that I have identified in my greater list the vast bulk of the films which I would regard as being the greatest that have ever been made.

I'm also very pleased and satisfied with the cherry on the top of that exercise which is my greatest 100 list, and the thread on here containing research information about each of the films and a nominal personal comment or in a few cases review, which in itself I devoted a significant amount of time to, and which I perceive as being probably one of the greatest and most valuable sources of information that could be made available to a movie lover.

The result of the work speaks for itself, and you are welcome to share in the enjoyment of the results of the exercise should you wish to.

Should you instead decide to argue that something that someone's put thousands of hours into is a load of rubbish without even looking at it, that is also generally human prerogative.

My initial comment on here about not having seen any of the 4 films though was just an isolated remark meant in good humour (and I think largely at my own expense), and wasn't made with the intention of creating an argument on the 90s thread about the merits of the my film experiences or my of my greatest 100 films list/thread.

[SpelingError]

We're only at #97 and three films from my ballot have already shown up (albeit at the tail end).

The Celebration was #10 on my ballot.

The Celebration (1998) - 4.5

I was looking forward to revisiting this film and, fortunately, it was just as great as I remembered. I found myself impressed by the mystery of the family, but even more so by the terrific style and the cinematic technique Vinterberg employed throughout the film. Initially, the rough and unpolished camera shots (which I don't consider to be a flaw, btw) and unorthodox camera angles and shooting positions mildly impressed me. As the film went on though, my admiration over those aspects grew more profound. As more revelations about the family were revealed and as the party guests kept turning on each other, the bizarre camerawork resonated with me in the best way possible as it matched the craziness of the situation at the birthday party. Some people may be distracted by its noticeable low budget, but I actually think the film's low budget contributes to its greatness. The grainy cinematography added to the craziness of the film as it lead to many shots feeling reminiscent of a grainy horror film made in the 70's or the 80's. I can't imagine the film giving off the same effect with a higher budget. If I had to nitpick something, it might be better to build to the unorthodox cinematography as opposed to utilizing it right at the start of the film. This isn't to say I disliked the unorthodox cinematography in the first act per se, but since it worked best for me when paired with the family conflict, it might have been cool to have the camerawork escalate in weirdness, with it growing more unorthodox and dreamlike as the story grew more bizarre. However, this minor issue was ultimately lost in the grand scheme of everything I loved about the film, so I don't mean to imply this matters much. Just some food for thought.

Gummo, on the other hand, was #1 on my ballot. I'm glad ueno and I (I assume crumbsroom was the third user) were able to secure it a spot. I don't have a formal review of it, but while I imagine many people would hate it due to how light it is on plot progression and the frequent atrocities on display, saying this is all Korine cares about is unfair and misses the underlying sadness at the heart of the film. Acknowledging the kinds of characters who commit these acts and the reality and social issues of their surroundings causes what's depicted to cut real deep. Which can be easy to overlook, but these people are anything but privileged. In spite of the atrocities on display though, the passivity the characters have to their surroundings (like the bathtub scene) makes the film feel more depressing than disturbing. As a result, the film proves simultaneously revolting and hypnotic at the same time. The unusual friendships and characters which color the film also help to balance out the darker bits. The friendship between Solomon and Tummler, for instance, never ceases to move me. On a surface level, the age gap between them and the fact Tummler regularly hangs out around boys his age sets off various warning flags. It makes one ask why he would be best friends with someone so young, but the mutual kindness they both display towards each other speaks volumes. Overall, just a complete masterpiece all around.

As an aside, if you love Gummo, you should check out Timeless Bottomless Bad Movie from the same year. Contrary to its title, it's actually a great movie.

[SpelingError]

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[SpelingError]

SC has got to have fallen off his rocker with the start of the countdown this time.

Really guys!!!! This ain't the nineties!!!!

Do you associate every instance of a film you dislike making a countdown with people having bad taste in film?

[iluv2viddyfilms]

I just finished The Celebration... wow! Loved it... I mean, it's not the kind of film one seeks for enjoyment, but it's impactful, well done, and thematically rich. More later, maybe but the handheld Dogma 95 thing has never really bothered me a lot because I get why they are doing it and I think part of people's disdain for it might be because of all the pale imitators and how cliche' and overdone to no real effect hand held camerawork has become in film these days post Dogma 95 and admittedly Saving Private Ryan. Kind of like Dutch Angles... they work when used to effect, but if a filmmaker is just throwing them in because they are fashionable... well uh, no. It don't work.

Anyway, The Celebration seems like the opposite side of the coin that would be a pairing with Vinterberg's The Hunt.

In the Hunt, a teacher is falsely accused of molesting a child and everyone assumes he is guilty when in truth he is not. In The Celebration we have a protagonist, a son who is tormented by the recent suicide of his sister and his own suffering from sexual abuse as a child at the hands of his father and when he confronts his father and tells the truth, no one believes him.

In each case we have a character who has suffered tremendously and whom no one believes. The difference is, in The Hunt everyone assumes the accused is guilty without any real investigation and in The Celebration everyone assumes the accused is innocent (until toward the end at least) and can't even be bothered to be questioned. In both cases the films explore the alienation, isolation, and torment of knowing the truth but being powerless to do anything about it and the complete isolation and Hell that is being alone with no one willing to seek the truth along side you.

Yeah these are two wonderful films, and The Celebration is a great companion piece to The Hunt where Vinterberg explores very similar themes, albeit in very difference environments and contexts and they're both frippin' brilliant. Glad The Celebration made the list and thank you for introducing me to this film. Kudos to those who voted for it.

[LAMb EELYAK]

Starting to think I did not actually exist in the 90s.

[iluv2viddyfilms]

Also I don't have time to read this at the moment, but I was just curious if there were any essays or analysis online comparing The Celebration to The Hunt because I was picking up on that immediately as I was watching The Celebration for the first time tonight, and I did find this with a quick google search.

I'll read it when I get a chance, but yeah... gotta love those melancholy Dane directors who speak truths of human nature that most people and filmmakers would conveniently wish to ignore and pretend don't exist:

https://www.deepfocusreview.com/definitives/the-celebration/

[TheManBehindTheCurtain]

Catching up ... and ho boy, it's going to be a long journey.

Seen: 1/4
Ballot: 0/25

I've seen Gilbert Grape and it was good, but a bit self-consciously showy to me.

In the 90s, I was cruising from 35 to 45. I had to do a lot of IMDB-ing of the titles since my memory for 1990s experiences is somewhat ... rusty.

Of the 1-pointers, I know for sure I saw these, in order of preference:

Mrs. Parker and the Vicious Circle
Dogfight
The Englishman Who Went Up a Hill But Came Down a Mountain
The World Is Not Enough
DragonHeart
The Legend of Drunken Master

Some relief, though: Knowing that Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey only got one vote makes me no longer feel the need to apologize for not having seen it.

[Citizen Rules]

I've not seen The Celebration and usually if I want to see a movie but someone says it's bad, I don't listen and check it out for myself. But after hearing quite a few descriptions of it and especially after @Citizen Rules (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=84637) disdained it!, I really have no desire to see it. But maybe some day I will find a movie that I can not only disdain but revile! :p I kid! I joke! But seriously, it's got so much strong reactions either way, I just don't know....I would urge everyone to actually watch movies that I disdain:p as my taste is pretty far from center. I'll say that if you regularly watch newer movies and new tv series then there's a good chance that the style of filming in The Celebration aka Festen would be to your liking....Now if I say a movie is great, you can bank on that!

[gbgoodies]

I vaguely remember watching The Celebration (Festen) for a HoF a while back, but I don't remember much about the movie. If I remember correctly, it was a pretty good movie about a dysfunctional family, but something happened that made it difficult to watch. (I don't remember what happened, but I've never had the desire to rewatch it to find out.)

I haven't seen Gummo, and after reading the synopsis, I have no interest in seeing it.

[John-Connor]

Today's guesses:

Four Weddings and a Funeral
Total Recall

(Based on 'out of the blue' youtube algorithm suggestions.)

[The Rodent]

Today's guesses:


Total Recall

(Based on 'out of the blue' youtube algorithm suggestions.)

Dagnammit... guess what I forgot to list...

[John-Connor]

Dagnammit... guess what I forgot to list...
It's ok / understandable as long as T2 is on there somewhere, you're good. :D

https://media4.giphy.com/media/jCENc3aA4fLJm/200.gif?cid=6c09b952fl68nn5yyfmw54n1ok0zqjepi6crw84uf8ggadpa&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=200.gif&ct=g

[PHOENIX74]

We're well under way - why do I seem to have so little time these days? Anyway, none from my list so far, and I've seen all four reveals (with varying recall regarding each one)...

100. What’s Eating Gilbert Grape (1993) - What I remember most about this is Leonardo DiCaprio's performance - it's when I first really noticed him. I think this is a really good film - I've bought it and it's due for a viewing, so I look forward to catching up with it again. I'm actually surprised at how much of it I remember - stuck with me.

99. Sonatine (1993) - I went on a bit of a Takeshi Kitano binge a year or so ago (maybe two) - I have this on Blu-Ray, as part of a Beat Takeshi collection, and I have to admit to all of his movies being a little meshed together in my head. Skimming the plot on Wikipedia, I remember Sonatine again. I wrote on Letterboxd (it was two years ago) : "Psychologically clever gangster film from Beat Takeshi which takes a break from the violence to contrast with a free and easy beachside segment, where the murderers and torture-fiends play and pull pranks on each other. All of this takes it's toll on Murakawa (Takeshi) who is "so afraid, he wants to die" after a lifetime of service to overlords." - my rating 4/5

98. The Celebration (1998) - The first time I saw this I didn't like it so much, but after further recommendations and a Hall of Fame I came around and really got into it (along with the Dogme 95 movement). I actually look forward to seeing this again one day. Worthy of being in the Top 100 I reckon.

97. Gummo (1997) - This one is a shock to the system, very different, definitely impactful - but also just a tad depressing and repulsive. Harmony Korine's Julien Donkey-Boy is one I like a great deal.

Seen : 4/4

[Captain Quint]

4lists65pointsFallen Angels (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/11220-fallen-angels.html)Director
Wong Kar-wai, 1995

Starring
Leon Lai, Charlie Yeung, Takeshi Kaneshiro, Karen Mok

[Captain Quint]

7lists66pointsOffice Space (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/1542-office-space.html)Director
Mike Judge, 1999

Starring
Ron Livingston, Jennifer Aniston, David Herman, Ajay Naidu

[Captain Quint]

https://youtu.be/oq4N4bgqUMI?si=0CZWTrUeeH8dnZ1a

Office Space? Yeah, I remember the animated Milton shorts on SNL, that served as inspiration for this quotable, cult film.

The lovesick hitman story in Fallen Angels was originally intended as the third tale for 1994's Chungking Express, but Kar-wai felt it didn't really fit with the others + it made the picture too long, and he cut it. But he still liked the idea, so he filmed it as its own thing.

While I enjoyed both of these, neither one was close to making my 25, and so far, movie-wise, I've still not contributed a thing to the countdown. I'm on the outside looking in, wondering where my stapler is!

Office was previously unraked, while Angels held the 78th position.

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[Allaby]

Seen both, neither made my ballot. I watched Fallen Angels once in 2021 and don't remember much of it. I rated it a 6/10. I've seen Office Space a couple times, including earlier this year. I enjoyed it and thought it was funny and relatable. I rated Office Space an 8/10, but it was never in contention for my ballot.

Seen: 5/6

[rauldc14]

This just isn't the real 90s. I say that as someone who really likes Fallen Angels. Heck I almost considered throwing in on my list. But the nostalgia of the 90s just isn't hitting.

Although maybe Office Space will help this countdown turn a corner....

[ueno_station54]

can't remember if i've seen office space or not and i fell asleep immediately during fallen angels lol

[MovieGal]

I have seen Fallen Angels, long ago.

Office Space isnt my kind of film.

[Holden Pike]

106980

Fallen Angels was #78 on the first MoFo Top 100 of the '90s while Office Space was #18 on the MoFo Top 100 Comedies.

[mattiasflgrtll6]

The 90's is one of my favorite decades for comedies, and Office Space represents what made it special very well. The humor is brilliantly sarcastic, biting and in a lot of ways timeless. Who hasn't been stuck in a job they despise and felt like they have nowhere else to go? There's also a shred of optimism at the end however, showing that we have the power to break out of that cycle as long as we have the motivation and means to do so.

The performances are all stellar, with Jennifer Aniston being at her sweetest and most likable, and Ron Livingston making for an excellent everyman lead. Of course you also have the scene-stealers Gary Cole and Stephen Root, who provide plenty of hilarious and quotable moments.

Still no picks from my list yet, but I love this movie.

[Miss Vicky]

I saw Office Space once ages ago when it came out. I didn't care for it then, but as a teenaged girl I was not exactly in its target demographic. Maybe I should give it a rewatch?

I haven't seen Fallen Angels.

Seen: 4/6
My Balllot:
25. Untamed Heart (One Pointer)

[Harry Lime]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbHwbgIELCc

[honeykid]

I mean what the heck is next Kindergarten Cop and Flubber!?!

Ain't no way you guys are cool enough to have managed to get Kindergarten Cop on this list. It's fun and you know it. :cool:

[seanc]

I freaking love Office Space, but didn’t vote for it. High on my comedy list though. Yeah, I appear to be one of those people who slide straight comedies into a different category. Rarely put them on my decades lists.

I loved Fallen Angels the one time I watched it. Not as much as a couple other of his films though so I haven’t rewatched it and the plot has left me. Need to remedy that at some point.

[Harry Lime]

Office Space is a classic late 90s comedy. Some of the younger Mofos might only know of the remake, the excellent TV series Severance, but don't ignore the original. I never even had an office job back when it came out but I could still relate and get a lot of laughs rewatching the movie. Plus this is badass:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9wsjroVlu8

Fallen Angels is a top tier Wong Kar Wai film (I think all of his films are top tier) that made my neo noir list but not this one. I do have another of his very high on my 90s list though.

[Torgo]

Fallen Angels is amazing, but another Wong Kar-Wai movie made my ballot. You can read something I wrote about it here (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=2300864#post2300864) if you like.

As for Office Space, has it stood the test of time more than the other two "office worker has an existential crisis in 1999" movies, i.e. Fight Club and American Beauty? It's the one I still think about (and quote) the most, anyway.

[TheManBehindTheCurtain]

Office Space! My No. 23.

Having spent three decades in Silicon Valley working for tech companies, I can tell you this: It's not a comedy. It's not a satire. It's a DOCUMENTARY! Oh so favorite line I quote often:

Bob Porter: Looks like you've been missing a lot of work lately.
Peter Gibbons: I wouldn't say I've been *missing* it, Bob.

Seen: 2/6
Ballot: 1/25

[seanc]

Office Space! My No. 23.

Having spent three decades in Silicon Valley working for tech companies, I can tell you this: It's not a comedy. It's not a satire. It's a DOCUMENTARY! Oh so favorite line I quote often:

Bob Porter: Looks like you've been missing a lot of work lately.
Peter Gibbons: I wouldn't say I've been *missing* it, Bob.

Seen: 2/6
Ballot: 1/25

My favorite thing at work is to just say anything I have to ask someone to do in that Lumbergh voice. Don’t think many people get the joke anymore.

[kgaard]

Fallen Angels is excellent, but didn't make my list. That's gonna happen for a lot of good movies in this decade!

Office Space didn't do it for me. Not sure why, really. Might try again someday. Obviously it's quite popular, so I'm not surprised to see it show up.

[TheManBehindTheCurtain]

My favorite thing at work is to just say anything I have to ask someone to do in that Lumbergh voice. Don’t think many people get the joke anymore.

Yeah, seanc, I'm gonna need you to do those TPS reports.

They're an actual thing. In the Wikipedia article about them, there's more space given to them about their satiric use in Office Space than about the report itself!

[Deschain]

I’ve never heard of Fallen Angels but it seems like something I’d enjoy. I’ll have to check it out.

Office Space made my list. Despite being quoted to death by everyone all the time it still holds up as a down to earth and relatable comedy about the frustrations of work. Lumbergh remains an infuriating villain because we’ve all had to interact with someone like him. My mom, who doesn’t like violent movies, said to me, “I hope somebody stabs him.” :D

[Thief]

Do you associate every instance of a film you dislike making a countdown with people having bad taste in film?

https://www.boundarydisputelaw.com/files/2023/12/Forget-It.jpg

Forget it, Speling. It's raul.

[Thief]

I haven't seen Fallen Angels. Wong Kar-wai is another blind spot for me. I've only seen In the Mood for Love (which I really liked) and his BMW short The Follow (https://www.movieforums.com/reviews/2374439-the_follow.html) (which is good).

As for Office Space, I'll copy/paste what I wrote in the latest Comedy countdown...


I think it's hilarious. I think it's a film that resonates with anybody that has worked in an office environment. The first half of the film is hilarious in that aspect as you get to see tons of things like "yeah, been there". I do think that it kinda runs out of gas in the last act, and the conclusion feels a bit contrived or forced, but I was sold already. It was my #23.


In a Comedy countdown I had it at #23, but in a broader 90's Countdown, it didn't have much of a chance. If it was a list of 50 films, I'm pretty sure it would've made it, but it isn't.

[SpelingError]

I haven't seen Fallen Angels.

Office Space is pretty good, but it was never in contention for my ballot.

[Holden Pike]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLk5oWOILbA

[SpelingError]

https://www.boundarydisputelaw.com/files/2023/12/Forget-It.jpg

Forget it, Speling. It's raul.
I think we should complain about the films on raul's ballot making the countdown.

[Citizen Rules]

I don't remember watching Office Space, so I might check it out again for Jennifer Aniston and a few laughs.

Not seen Fallen Angles and from it's description I'm not likely to watch it either.

[Holden Pike]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3HfgN85qsM

[Thief]

I think we should complain about the films on raul's ballot making the countdown.

Fixed.

[Thursday Next]

I liked Office Spacebut it wasn't in contention for my list. I don't remember much about Fallen Angels, other than my initial reaction being that it was style over substance.


Seen: 5/6
My list: 2/25

[Thief]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLk5oWOILbA

Loved the boys, didn't like the host.

[dadgumblah]

Haven't seen Fallen Angels so no luck there.

Love Office Space but it didn't make my list. But it reminds my that I have it on DVD and I need to break it out again for a rewatch. Mmm-kay, yeah, that would be great.

[Robert the List]

Heard of 3/6
Started 4/6 (go figure)
Finished 0/6

[Holden Pike]

Heard of 3/6
Started 3/6
Finished 0/6
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[MovieFan1988]

Have seen so far: 2 - Office Space - The movie was alright, the only part that I found funny was the printer smashing scene. Other than that, I found it as a boring comedy.

Have not seen so far: 5

My Ballot List So Far:
#25 - Fear - One Pointer

[WrinkledMind]

Caught up with 10 pages, which will be a running theme for me, unless I make it a point to come here daily. I will try.

Happy to see my 22nd make the list. It's The Celebration . Saw it last year & it was funny, dark, depressing & mad. I had to include it in my list. Glad to see it make it.

On a side note, I finally know the name of movie from which I have seen so many memes online. It's Office Space. Yep, never seen or heard of it before. But like I said, I have seen the memes. Seems like a fun movie, which I will watch this weekend.

On a further side note, it's nice to see the continuation of the tradition of rauldc14 complaining about the countdown & SpelingError & Thief complaining about rauldc14 complaining about the countdown.

[Little Ash]

Hopefully I'll be able to get more into it later, but Fallen Angels was #15 on my ballot. If one thing really defined the 90s to me, it's Wong Kar Wai (I preferred his French New Wave influenced movies to Tarantino's early FNW homage movies). I think this is his most stylistic film and I prefer it to Chungking Express. I saw this on the big screen, and have to remind myself that other cinephiles weren't as inured in his movies from that era as I was. What is it about? What every WKW movie is about, people emotionally stuck and needing to move on, and then eventually moving on. And it makes sense for a mood piece, that the style of the movie becomes the substance of the movie by expressing those moods.

I will say, I did try watching the remaster that came out with the criterion box set, and this is the one where the attempts at adding more style or re-stylize this one, I felt noticeably failed and subtracted rather than added. So my advice is if you can watch the original version instead, go for that one. (But I've only ever seen versions with the ending with the acapella rendition of Only You, which I understand was an overseas or American change.)

I have seen Office Space. I'm an old person now and struggle to laugh at entire straight comedies these days. But there classic lines that will probably live on in our heads. "I'm not exactly missing it," has never left the lexicon.

[Robert the List]

Gummo looks good. Not sure it'll be tonight, but I'll be pleased to give that a try.
I have tried the celebration actually, so (not counting Gummo) I've started 4/6.

[MovieMeditation]

Not seen Fallen Angels.

Office Space was okay fun. I didn't love it though.

[MovieGal]

Gummo looks good. Not sure it'll be tonight, but I'll be pleased to give that a try.
I have tried the celebration actually, so (not counting Gummo) I've started 4/6.

My prediction, you will hate Gummo. I can see it not being your type of film. It takes someone with an extremely open mind to enjoy.

But then again, expand your cinema knowledge/taste. Maybe Im wrong.

[Robert the List]

I forgot Pusher.
Sure that would've made my ballot.

[Robert the List]

My prediction, you will hate Gummo. I can see it not being your type of film. It takes someone with an extremely open mind to enjoy.

But then again, expand your cinema knowledge/taste. Maybe Im wrong.
I've got huge variety in my greatest films though. Not sure where this* criticism comes from.

*or just about any of them tbh.

[Captain Quint]

On a further side note, it's nice to see the continuation of the tradition of...

Cripes, I've heard the word "tradition" so often in association with this thing, it feels like I've joined a community theater production of Fiddler on the Roof.

[MovieGal]

I've got huge variety in my greatest films though. Not sure where this* criticism comes from.

*or just about any of them tbh.

If you didnt like Salo, i dont think you will like Gummo.

There is a large difference in what takes place but both films deal with debasing humanization.

[stillmellow]

Ain't no way you guys are cool enough to have managed to get Kindergarten Cop on this list. It's fun and you know it. :cool:


Hell yeah! Kindergarten Cop is a lot of fun! I especially liked his female cop sidekick. Not a stereotypical female cop at all, and very funny!


Office Space was hit or miss for me. It has a lot of great moments and hilarious bits, but I just don't like Ron Livingston. I don't find him funny, and his face is just so punchable.


I've never seen Fallen Angels.


Seen: 3/6


List: 0/25

[SpelingError]

On a further side note, it's nice to see the continuation of the tradition of rauldc14 complaining about the countdown & SpelingError & Thief complaining about rauldc14 complaining about the countdown.

Some traditions never die.

[rauldc14]

https://www.boundarydisputelaw.com/files/2023/12/Forget-It.jpg

Forget it, Speling. It's raul.

I have a feeling it's you behind this countdown after all.

[Robert the List]

If you didnt like Salo, i dont think you will like Gummo.

There is a large difference in what takes place but both films deal with debasing humanization.
In a way it's striking me as the American Trainspotting.
The 90s, for real people.
Also reminds me of Killer of Sheep.
I am struggling with the cats, but otherwise enjoying it. It was immediately obvious to me that it was a significant film.

[MovieGal]

In a way it's striking me as the American Trainspotting.
The 90s, for real people.
Also reminds me of Killer of Sheep.
I am struggling with the cats, but otherwise enjoying it. It was immediately obvious to me that it was a significant film.

I should check out Killer of Sheep.

I learned my fav genre of cinema is " debasing humanization".

[MovieGal]

I have a feeling it's you behind this countdown after all.

I hope its SpelingError behind the countdown. He's got awesome taste. You should see the films he recommended me. And he enjoys Salo like I do.

[Robert the List]

I should check out Killer of Sheep.

I learned my fav genre of cinema is " debasing humanization".
lol.

Killer of Sheep isn't that pessimistic. It has a similar feel to it though.

Another independent film I love is Stranger Than Paradise (1984). Although that might be a bit too cheery for you.

[KeyserCorleone]

It was immediately obvious to me that it was a significant film.

And we believe this wholeheartedly... I mean, you said so, and that's apparently enough for all of us, right?


Wouldn't it be a significant film if the ratings already say so???


Anyway, I just finished up Office Space. I was told early on by my stepdad that it's overrated, but he can't even handle Moody Blues so he and I disagree often. He actually hates my number 1 of the 90's, not that I'm revealing it. But I think I can agree with him on this one. Now the hyperrealism of the work-related situations here is even haunting for those who've never even worked in an office building. The sleaze coming off of all of the bosses just makes me wanna go take a long shower. But I feel that it's more "realistic" than it is funny, as it also captures the mundane elements of a day job a bit too well. But there are definitely some funny moments here, and a big factor in the realism is the wonderful acting and directing. So even though this isn't really my type of movie (although I was expecting to love it due to The Office being a favorite show), I'm impressed with its technical feats, and I feel that if I were to rate based solely on enjoyment, I'd be neglecting some incredible feats the movie otherwise made.


rating_3_5 = 72. Seen 3/6.

[I_Wear_Pants]

So far I'm 0/6 watched...

[SpelingError]

I hope its SpelingError behind the countdown. He's got awesome taste. You should see the films he recommended me. And he enjoys Salo like I do.

If I was behind the countdown, Gummo would be at #1.

[Citizen Rules]

3 out of 6 for me. 50% watched will probably hold true for me during the countdown.

[MovieGal]

If I was behind the countdown, Gummo would be at #1.

Gummo is pretty awesome.

[MovieGal]

3 out of 6 for me. 50% watched will probably hold true for me during the countdown.

I dont think you would like Gummo.

[SpelingError]

Part of me wants to nominate Gummo for one of the Hall of Fame threads, but another part of me doesn't want to be yelled at for it.

[Allaby]

Part of me wants to nominate Gummo for one of the Hall of Fame threads, but another part of me doesn't want to be yelled at for it.

Someone should do an edgy/extreme/controversial Hall of Fame where people recommend the most edgy/controversial film they like.

[SpelingError]

Someone should do an edgy/extreme/controversial Hall of Fame where people recommend the most edgy/controversial film they like.

That would actually be a good idea, if we can get enough participants.

[cricket]

Someone should do an edgy/extreme/controversial Hall of Fame where people recommend the most edgy/controversial film they like.

That would actually be a good idea, if we can get enough participants.

I'm in that for sure

[cricket]

I've seen both Fallen Angels and Office Space in the last 5 years. I liked both but neither were close to my ballot.

[Citizen Rules]

Part of me wants to nominate Gummo for one of the Hall of Fame threads, but another part of me doesn't want to be yelled at for it.Part of me will want to watch it out of curiosity and part of me will want to drop out instead:p

[beelzebubble]

SpelingError you should run it up the flag pole and see if anyone bites to mix some metaphors.
I would be interested.

[Citizen Rules]

Someone should do an edgy/extreme/controversial Hall of Fame where people recommend the most edgy/controversial film they like.I had offered to host an Extreme Cinema HoF before, though I wouldn't be watching the noms myself. Though now someone else should host it.

[SpelingError]

The discussion continues here...

https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=2550838#post2550838

[MovieGal]

Part of me wants to nominate Gummo for one of the Hall of Fame threads, but another part of me doesn't want to be yelled at for it.

I was shocked when a member, who was close to me, loved The Bunny Game.

[TheManBehindTheCurtain]

Office Space was hit or miss for me. It has a lot of great moments and hilarious bits, but I just don't like Ron Livingston. I don't find him funny, and his face is just so punchable.

"Just so punchable" ... I'll have to remember that! :)

We all have someone like that. For me, it's Adam Sandler and Will Ferrell.

[TheManBehindTheCurtain]

Someone should do an edgy/extreme/controversial Hall of Fame where people recommend the most edgy/controversial film they like.

Got my hand raised ...

[MovieGal]

Got my hand raised ...

Y'all know those are my type of films!

[Takoma11]

Some relief, though: Knowing that Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey only got one vote makes me no longer feel the need to apologize for not having seen it.

Bogus Journey was a late cut from my list, and I was really sad to see it go. Such a fun, goofy film. I'd highly recommend it (after seeing Excellent Adventure, of course).

[LeBoyWondeur]

I can find humour in all sorts of movies and it mostly serves to make the characters more human, but great comedies-for-the-sake-of-comedy are rare, imo. Office Space is one of those exceptions hence why it was a no-brainer for my list.

Many people who have to work with copy/scan/print machines know that this particular piece of technology was invented in hell. There's no other explanation for it.

[Robert the List]

And we believe this wholeheartedly... I mean, you said so, and that's apparently enough for all of us, right?

Wouldn't it be a significant film if the ratings already say so???



whhaaattt?

[KeyserCorleone]

whhaaattt?

Obviously, if it's significant to history, you can look that up. Duh.

[Harry Lime]

I really like how this countdown is getting more people to watch Office Space for the first time. It's a long road to cinema justice.

[KeyserCorleone]

I really like how this countdown is getting more people to watch Office Space for the first time. It's a long road to cinema justice.


Considering that it's a cult classic that only made two million more than its ten million budget, and it's got incredible realism to it, this statement seems true to me despite my rating.

[gbgoodies]

I watched Office Space for the Comedies Countdown, and while it didn't make my list, I liked it more than I thought I would. I rewatched it for this countdown, and the same thing happened. I couldn't find room for it on my list, but I'm glad to see that it made the countdown.

I've never heard of Fallen Angels.

[PHOENIX74]

96. Fallen Angels - This one was on my ballot - always nice to get one out of the way early, even though I would have been hoping for Fallen Angels to show up a bit higher. I still haven't worked my way through Wong Kar-wai's filmography entirely, but I was super impressed by this title (I'm guessing that there's another Wong Kar-wai movie that's absolutely guaranteed to show up later.) Actually, super impressed is an understatement - I thought it was brilliant. I mentioned in my review of the film that : "If you want to luxuriate yourself with images it seems Wong Kar-wai and Fallen Angels is the way to go - every shot looks achingly beautiful, even though the editing (which is also magnificent) keeps us on our toes, and never lets the eye linger on the neon jungle that's the streets of Hong Kong. Every scene is absolutely bathed in one specific colour, and the kinetic energy is out of this world." Most of his movies focus on love, and his use of music and movement capture the thrilling rush of falling hard is fantastic. A beautiful work of cinematic art. I had it at #15.

95. Office Space - I've seen this a few times - the last of which was around two and a half years ago when I wrote on letterboxd : "Office Space is exceedingly funny - nearly all of the comedy hits, and as such writer/director Mike Judge was in rare form here. If you need to have worked in an office to appreciate it, I once did - but I reckon on it's funny parts translating to most people who watch it, whether they've been in an office environment or not. God bless Stephen Root for that bizarre performance as the quiet nerd who gets pushed too far." Very popular, and it's nice to see that it's still popular enough to scrape into this Top 100 of the 1990s Redux countdown. It never really entered into my calculations while making my list though.

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Seen : 6/6
I'd never even heard of : 0/6
Movies that had been on my radar, but I haven't seen yet : 0/6
Films from my list : 1 + 1 pointer

#96 - My #15 - Fallen Angels (1995)
1-pointer - Deep Crimson (1996)

[Captain Quint]

5lists67pointsTrue Romance (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/319-true-romance.html)Director
Tony Scott, 1993

Starring
Christian Slater, Patricia Arquette, Dennis Hopper, Val Kilmer

[Captain Quint]

6lists67pointsPorco Rosso (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/11621-porco-rosso.html)Director
Hayao Miyazaki, 1992

Starring
Sh?ichir? Moriyama, Tokiko Kato, Bunshi Katsura VI, Tsunehiko Kamijô

[Captain Quint]

2-way tie broken by most ballots (6 to 5)

True Romance was scripted by Quentin Tarantino, and nearly directed by him, until he lost interest in that. While it has one hell of a cast, I can't remember a thing about it (did I like it, loathe it, I dunno?)

But Porco Rosso... while I've enjoyed a few of the films on the list, I LOVE this one - it's my favorite on the countdown so far. The odd thing is how it slipped through the cracks, I didn't see it until much later, never even heard of it until a friend gushed about it. I don't know how that happened, but somewhere between Kiki and Mononoke, Porco came and went without me noticing it. It now ranks 5th in my list of the directors works.

BTW - Miyazaki's favorite version of this one, is the French dub, with Jean Reno as Porco

https://youtu.be/ES028QH2jFY?si=ak8Vf475PaNtEyq4

Rosso did not make the rankings in the previous 90s countdown - while True Romance came in at #47.

[Captain Quint]

Hmm, I just notice this - I don't know why Shūichirō Moriyama's Porco credit has question marks in it, but I'll ping Yoda and see if that can be fixed.

[The Rodent]

Porco Rosso's appeared before...
Just had a check... when I held the MoFo Top 100 Comic Book Movies, there was a low vote count and the list was officially cut to a Top 50 instead of a Top 100... Porco Rosso stayed in the list because it came in at 50th place :)

That list was a nightmare though ;)

[Tugg]

True Romance (1993) was #18 on my list.

[Allaby]

I've seen True Romance twice and enjoyed it. I think this is Christian Slater's best performance and the rest of the cast deliver memorable and interesting performances too. The screenplay is sharp and clever and the film moves along at a brisk pace. There is some good action and the film builds to a satisfying climax. I rated it an 8/10, but did not consider it for my ballot. I've seen and liked Porco Rosso, rating it a 7/10, but it was not in contention for my ballot.

Seen: 7/8

[Holden Pike]

107015

True Romance was #47 on the initial MoFo Top 100 of the 1990s and #60 on the MoFo Top 100 Neo-Noirs. Porco Rosso was #43 on the MoFo Top 100 Animated Films as well as #50 on the MoFo Top Comic Book Movies.

[Tugg]

The best part of True Romance was James Gandolfini and Patricia Arquette fight.

[Robert the List]

Surprised True Romance only made 5 lists out of 80. Bit of a shock that one?

[ueno_station54]

always wanted to see porco rosso but never got around to it. tarantino dialogue is my kryptonite, especially his early stuff so true romance is a big no for me.

[rauldc14]

The tides have turned! Porco Rosso was 16 on my list! Although SC would still be ashamed.

It's just great storytelling and great illustration in my opinion. One of Miyazaki's best works.

True Romance I could do without although Tony Scott is the man.

[LeBoyWondeur]

The tides have turned! Porco Rosso was 16 on my list!
And that's your idea of "quintessential" nineties? :lol:

Never heard of these films but True Romance is something I might enjoy.
I don't like animated films unless it looks very pretty (e.g. Disney classics) therefore the Porco Rosso is not going to happen for me.

[iluv2viddyfilms]

Fallen Angels missed my list. It's truly a great film, I just didn't manage to rewatch it and also I already had made my Wong Kar-wai pick.

Office Space is fun and a wonderful satire, though I think it acted as more of a blueprint than a warning for the corporate office world, especially in a Post Covid age and a workforce now infused with remote hybrid work, remote meetings, knowledge of the Peter Principle all but gone from corporate awareness, and Gen Z. I love Office Space, but unlike a previous poster on here, I think is the lesser of the big three corporate "I Quit!" films, American Beauty and Fight Club being the others. It did not make my list.

Nor did the anime film from today nor did True Romance. True Romance is another fun film with great scenes, but it's very juvenile and silly and has the feel of a writer who is using cliche and film tropes instead of drawing upon anything pertanent. Everyone talks up the Sicilian scene, but for me Gary Oldman is the scene stealer.

So far not a single film of my list has made the countdown.

[MovieGal]

I havent seen Porco Rosso and only pieces of True Romance.

[Omnizoa]

Seen Office Space way back when. I remember like two lines from it.

https://media1.tenor.com/m/o6mL88Hz5msAAAAd/that-would-be-great-office-space.gif


I did not consider it very funny.


Surprised to see Porco Rosso make the cut, since it didn't make it on the first 90s Countdown. It may have been a passion project for Miyazaki like The Wind Rises (he's a big fan of planes), but it wouldn't even make a Top 10 Ghibli Movie list for me.

[Omnizoa]

Hmm, I just notice this - I don't know why Shūichirō Moriyama's Porco credit has question marks in it,That'll be a font issue. Those characters aren't supported in whatever font is used to display them.

[honeykid]

"Just so punchable" ... I'll have to remember that! :)

We all have someone like that. For me, it's Adam Sandler and Will Ferrell.

Oh, they're top tier punchable.

The tides have turned! Porco Rosso was 16 on my list! Although SC would still be ashamed.
Ashamed? He'd be livid! :D

My neck has been really bad so I've not mentioned the list much. So, for the record, none of mine have shown up yet. I've seen and really enjoyed What's Eating Gilbert Grape, Sonatine and True Romance (although the last time I watched it I became bored with it after about 20 minutes and turned it off and I've never been back, but that was probably just a bad day) but I've not seen WEGG? or Sonatine for over 25 years. I've also seen Office Space and thought it was ok but, like most comedies, not actually very funny. Definitely a smuckle film more than anything else. I've wanted to see The Celebration since it was released and still haven't done so, I remember wanting to see Fallen Angels when it came out but never getting around to it. And Porco Rosso is an animated film and an anime so I have absolutely no interest in seeing it.

[John-Connor]

https://image.tmdb.org/t/p/original/yDBG803lt1CB5O2sMSehyKCOpX1.jpg
Nice to finally see a true 90s classic like True Romance show up on the list. Didn't make my ballot but most definitely makes my top 150 of the decade. Fingers crossed for more Tony Scott films to make an appearance. I watched Porco Rosso for a Hall of Fame once and liked it.

Seen 8/8
Ballot 00/25

[kgaard]

I haven't seen True Romance. Porco Rosso is fine but I don't consider it top tier Miyazaki.

[Miss Vicky]

True Romance is a great movie with an incredible cast who all give great performances (and incidentally is one of four Christian Slater movies to make my ballot, as well as one of four Brad Pitt movies I voted for). It was a favorite of mine when it was new and it has remained a favorite all these years. I voted for it at #12 and I'm sad to see it appear so soon.

http://www.angelfire.com/music6/walteregan/MoFoTop100/trueromance.gif

As much as I love animation in general, I don't love many animations from the 1990s. I wasn't really watching animation during the decade and I let nostalgia have a huge influence on my ballot, so much so that no animation made the cut. Having said that, I watched Porco Rosso sometime around the animation countdown. I didn't like it.

Seen: 6/8
My Balllot:
12. True Romance (#94)
25. Untamed Heart (One Pointer)

[Holden Pike]

Fingers crossed for more Tony Scott films to make an appearance.
I would expect zero other Tony Scott flicks.

107019

There's a slight chance the recent death of Gene Hackman may propel Crimson Tide or Enemy of the State onto the very bottom of the list, but even that I wouldn't put great odds on, and if they haven't shown by the time we get to the seventies on the countdown, they ain't comin'. The Fan is laughably awful, and DeNiro has a myriad of much better movies to choose from in the '90s. Revenge is such a wasted opportunity, an appropriately long-forgotten, overwrought dud. Though The Last Boy Scout has gained some cult appeal over the decades, there are certainly many both better and more popular action-oriented titles that should take precedence, and frankly the unflitered Shane Black that we got with Kiss Kiss Bang Bang and The Nice Guys in the 21st Century makes Boy Scout and The Long Kiss Goodnight look worse and worse in retrospect. As for Days of Thunder, it may have a chance on the eventual Sports movie list, as that is a much shallower pool, but it sure ain't gonna show here.

In fact, the only other Tony Scott movie to have made a MoFo List thus far is...his remake of Man on Fire (2004), which was #70 on the MoFo Top 100 of the Millennium, though it did not reappear on the Top 100 of the 2000s list. Even Top Gun missed the MoFo Top 100 of the 1980s, and The Hunger didn't make that or either of the Horror lists.

Definitely more of the Tarantino factor than support of Tony Scott that has helped True Romance, voting wise, I expect.

But...keep those fingers crossed!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s28OPvfQN3k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_pR82vQSo8

[John-Connor]

I would expect zero other Tony Scott flicks.

107019

There's a slight chance the recent death of Gene Hackman may propel Crimson Tide or Enemy of the State onto the very bottom of the list, but even that I wouldn't put great odds on, and if they haven't shown by the time we get to the seventies on the countdown, they ain't comin'. The Fan is laughably awful, and DeNiro has a myriad of much better movies to choose from in the '90s. Revenge is such a wasted opportunity, an appropriately long-forgotten, overwrought dud. Though The Last Boy Scout has gained some cult appeal over the decades, there are certainly many both better and more popular action-oriented titles that should take precedence, and frankly the unflitered Shane Black that we got with Kiss Kiss Bang Bang and The Nice Guys in the 21st Century makes Boy Scout and The Long Kiss Goodnight look worse and worse in retrospect. As for Days of Thunder, it may have a chance on the eventual Sports movie list, as that is a much shallower pool, but it sure ain't gonna show here.

In fact, the only other Tony Scott movie to have made a MoFo List thus far is...his remake of Man on Fire (2004), which was #70 on the MoFo Top 100 of the Millennium, though it did not reappear on the Top 100 of the 2000s list. Even Top Gun missed the MoFo Top 100 of the 1980s, and The Hunger didn't make that or either of the Horror lists.

Definitely more of the Tarantino factor than support of Tony Scott that has helped True Romance, voting wise, I expect.

But...keep those fingers crossed!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s28OPvfQN3k
https://media1.tenor.com/m/VKU7xwwZJ_EAAAAd/dumb-and-dumber-lloyd.gif

[Deschain]

I liked True Romance, more so back when I was a teen but I think it’s worth a watch for the performances alone.

Haven’t seen Porco Rosso.

[WrinkledMind]

I have seen & liked Porco Rosso, but it is not the Ghibli film on my list.

Geniuely gobsmacked that True Romance is ranked so low & with so few votes. Still glad that it made the list. It is number 4 on my list.
I was late to this film, but instantly fell in love with it. I loved it so much that I have already watched it few times since.

One of the factors that makes me fall in love with movies is the music, & I loved Zimmer's work in this. Especially this tune.
https://youtu.be/1aRDZ6z9yT8?si=5Tn95uNv9ml1vufO

[seanc]

I like both Porco Rosso and True Romance quite a bit, but not enough for either to even have been on my shortlist. They both would be on a list of 100 of the 90’s if I made one though, so no issues from me.

[Holden Pike]

One of the factors that makes me fall in love with movies is the music, & I loved Zimmer's work in [True Romance]. Especially this tune.
https://youtu.be/1aRDZ6z9yT8?si=5Tn95uNv9ml1vufO
And you're aware that the aspect you love so much is lifted wholesale from Terrence Malick's Badlands (1973)?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QE6dWdQfFvM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6VnEkmNRE8

[WrinkledMind]

Yes. I think I found that fact on YouTube comments itself back then. But I still liked it. The ending with that tune was kinda lovely.

[Thief]

I would expect zero other Tony Scott flicks.

There's a slight chance the recent death of Gene Hackman may propel Crimson Tide or Enemy of the State onto the very bottom of the list, but even that I wouldn't put great odds on, and if they haven't shown by the time we get to the seventies on the countdown, they ain't comin'. The Fan is laughably awful, and DeNiro has a myriad of much better movies to choose from in the '90s. Revenge is such a wasted opportunity, an appropriately long-forgotten, overwrought dud. Though The Last Boy Scout has gained some cult appeal over the decades, there are certainly many both better and more popular action-oriented titles that should take precedence, and frankly the unflitered Shane Black that we got with Kiss Kiss Bang Bang and The Nice Guys in the 21st Century makes Boy Scout and The Long Kiss Goodnight look worse and worse in retrospect. As for Days of Thunder, it may have a chance on the eventual Sports movie list, as that is a much shallower pool, but it sure ain't gonna show here.



I think Crimson Tide might still have a chance, and The Last Boy Scout is a bit of a fan favorite so I wouldn't count it out already. But yeah, they should come in the next 20 slots or so.

[Holden Pike]

I think Crimson Tide might still have a chance, and The Last Boy Scout is a bit of a fan favorite so I wouldn't count it out already. But yeah, they should come in the next 20 slots or so.
I find it difficult to believe that Crimson Tide is more popular than True Romance, but we shall see.

[Thief]

I haven't seen Porco Rosso, and Miyazaki/Ghibli in general are a bit of blind spots for me. Have only seen Princess Mononoke and Spirited Away and I wasn't a big fan of either *ducks*

True Romance is one of those films I've seen a lot since the 90s, even before Pulp Fiction. I've always liked it; maybe not as much as I did back then, but it held up pretty well in a recent rewatch (read my review here (https://www.movieforums.com/reviews/2296426-true_romance.html)). Still, it didn't make my list but it's good to see it pop up.



SEEN: 3/8
MY BALLOT: 0/25


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[Citizen Rules]

Haven't seen Porko Rosso, I could watch it though.

I have seen True Romance and previously wrote this about it:
https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=85025
True Romance (1993)

I'd wanted to see this for awhile as I thought it might be a bit like Heathers, a film I really like. But nope, it's pure Tarantino and while I really liked the cast and liked much of the movie too, it was those Tarantino moments that turned me off. I'm talking his trademark dialogue where characters talk about stuff that apparently Tarantino thinks is cool and his over the top zany violence.

[Thief]

I find it difficult to believe that Crimson Tide is more popular than True Romance, but we shall see.

Maybe, but I think the fact that it has a broader appeal and is perhaps a bit more "mature" might translate into a wider audience. Personally, I haven't seen it in a very long time and didn't vote for it, but I do think it might still have a chance to make it in the next 10-ish slots.

[Harry Lime]

Yeah I like both films, give them probably, roughly, maybe, each a 3.5/5. They're the type of films that I could rewatch right now and enjoy but still not classify as great. But they're good. Happy to see them both make it.

[seanc]

Maybe, but I think the fact that it has a broader appeal and is perhaps a bit more "mature" might translate into a wider audience. Personally, I haven't seen it in a very long time and didn't vote for it, but I do think it might still have a chance to make it in the next 10-ish slots.

I don’t think Crimson makes it either. I think the Tarantino connection makes True Romance as popular as anything Scott is bringing to the table, for film fans anyway. I say this as a Tony Scott guy. We shall see.

[rauldc14]

Crimson has no chance. Hackman and Denzel fan here.

[Holden Pike]

Maybe, but I think the fact that it has a broader appeal and is perhaps a bit more "mature" might translate into a wider audience. Personally, I haven't seen it in a very long time and didn't vote for it, but I do think it might still have a chance to make it in the next 10-ish slots.
For one thing, Crimson Tide doesn't seem especially "mature" in comparison to The Thin Red Line or Schindler's List. It seems pretty lightweight and artificial.

Besides there being another great submarine movie in the decade - namely The Hunt for Red October - just in terms of military/war movies there's also Saving Private Ryan, The Thin Red Line, A Few Good Men, The Last of the Mohicans, Braveheart, Three Kings, and Schindler's List....That Crimson Tide did not even make the cut on the MoFo Top100 War Films (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=68557) should tell you it has very, very slim chances making a decade list. As I say, the recent death of Hackman just before the deadline may have given it a boost...but if I were wagering, I'd place my moolah on it being a no-show here.

I don't think Hunt for Red October will make it, either, but I'll bet it got more points.

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[Thursday Next]

Seen both, both ok.

[Robert the List]

Heard of: 4/8
Started: 5/8
Finished: 1/8
In my ballot: 0/8

[Wyldesyde19]

The Hunger is Tony Scott’s best film by far.
As for True Romance, it’s a movie I feel I may have seen a long time ago but can’t remember really. Either way, I should watch it to make sure and perhaps to refresh my memory.
Have not seen Porco Rosso yet.
Going to say I’m 0/2 here.

[mrblond]

Although considerably downranked (from #47 to #94), Many Thanks to all five voters who kept True Romance in the list.

I've seen this movie three or four times and I like it but the competition for this decade is huge. Probably, I would include it in my top 50-60 of the 90's. Great cast indeed. Nice easy classic story. Somehow agree that Gary Oldman partly stole the show in the beginning.

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[TheManBehindTheCurtain]

True Romance: Seen it. S'Ok. Packed with top-name stars and gonna-be-top-name-stars, so hard to resist when surfing for things to watch. But falls into that "not my type of movie" category. A bit "too much of too much."

Porco Rosso: Well, I can say this: Glad to be participating. Adding quite a few new entries to my impossibly long Letterboxd watchlist.

Seen: 3/8
Ballot: 1/25
Office Space: #95 / My #23

[Thief]

For one thing, Crimson Tide doesn't seem especially "mature" in comparison to The Thin Red Line or Schindler's List. It seems pretty lightweight and artificial.

Besides there being another great submarine movie in the decade - namely The Hunt for Red October - just in terms of military/war movies there's also Saving Private Ryan, The Thin Red Line, A Few Good Men, The Last of the Mohicans, Braveheart, Three Kings, and Schindler's List....That Crimson Tide did not even make the cut on the MoFo Top100 War Films (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=68557) should tell you it has very, very slim chances making a decade list. As I say, the recent death of Hackman just before the deadline may have given it a boost...but if I were wagering, I'd place my moolah on it being a no-show here.

I don't think Hunt for Red October will make it, either, but I'll bet it got more points.

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Yeah, I think you're right. I'm willing to bet it still made it as high as 100-150.

[iluv2viddyfilms]

I would expect zero other Tony Scott flicks.

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There's a slight chance the recent death of Gene Hackman may propel Crimson Tide or Enemy of the State onto the very bottom of the list, but even that I wouldn't put great odds on, and if they haven't shown by the time we get to the seventies on the countdown, they ain't comin'. The Fan is laughably awful, and DeNiro has a myriad of much better movies to choose from in the '90s. Revenge is such a wasted opportunity, an appropriately long-forgotten, overwrought dud. Though The Last Boy Scout has gained some cult appeal over the decades, there are certainly many both better and more popular action-oriented titles that should take precedence, and frankly the unflitered Shane Black that we got with Kiss Kiss Bang Bang and The Nice Guys in the 21st Century makes Boy Scout and The Long Kiss Goodnight look worse and worse in retrospect. As for Days of Thunder, it may have a chance on the eventual Sports movie list, as that is a much shallower pool, but it sure ain't gonna show here.

In fact, the only other Tony Scott movie to have made a MoFo List thus far is...his remake of Man on Fire (2004), which was #70 on the MoFo Top 100 of the Millennium, though it did not reappear on the Top 100 of the 2000s list. Even Top Gun missed the MoFo Top 100 of the 1980s, and The Hunger didn't make that or either of the Horror lists.

Definitely more of the Tarantino factor than support of Tony Scott that has helped True Romance, voting wise, I expect.

But...keep those fingers crossed!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s28OPvfQN3k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_pR82vQSo8

Little do you know that Days of Thunder was my first, third, and fourth pick. My second pick was Far and Away because I'm near 2/3 Irish!

[cricket]

True Romance was an instant favorite when I saw it the weekend it came out, and I think it was my #2 for the 1st 90's countdown. I still love it but it's gotten a little stale in recent years. It just missed my ballot this time around.

I watched every Miyazaki film for the animation countdown and it was hit or miss. Porco Rosso was a hit but still not close to a consideration for my ballot.

[dadgumblah]

Porco Rosso is one I have not seen. True Romance is a film I really liked but I haven't watched in a long time. I remember really liking Gary Oldman in it because I'm quite a fan of his, and I also loved the Dennis Hopper/Christopher Walken scene. I like Christian Slater and Patricia Arquette in this, but I prefer all the supporting characters to them, so I'm not sure what that says about the movie as a whole. Still a good watch but I didn't include it on my list.

Still no love for me on the countdown. Ah well, there's always tomorrow. And no, I'm not drifting back to the 80s there.

[I_Wear_Pants]

I've now seen 1/8. I didn't like True Romance much though. The performances are fine. I just found the script boring and convoluted and just took forever to get anywhere. After a while, I lost interest.

[CosmicRunaway]

Finally found the time to catch up on the thread!

Of the reveals so far, I've seen What's Eating Gilbert Grape, Sonatine, Office Space, True Romance, and Porco Rosso. Of those, only Office Space was in contention for a spot on my list, though it was a very early cut.

I finally watched Sonatine in preparation for this Countdown, but was quite underwhelmed. Perhaps years of seeing people praise it set me up for disappointment. I kind of wish I had used that time to watch Fallen Angels instead, since I actually like all of the Wong Kar-wai films I've seen (which unfortunately is not something I can say about Kitano).

I haven't seen The Celebration or Gummo, but my interest in the former has certainly been piqued by the comparison some people here have made between it and The Hunt/Jagten, which was a fantastic film.

Seen: 05/08

My List: 0

[KeyserCorleone]

I've now seen 1/8. I didn't like True Romance much though. The performances are fine. I just found the script boring and convoluted and just took forever to get anywhere. After a while, I lost interest.

True Romance has a hell of an atmosphere going for it, but the real issue is that the major characters are drowned out a swarm of side characters. Not enough Kilmer, Walken, Jackson, Oldman or Hopper. Now I liked the plot well enough, and there were easily several brilliant scenes with some major raw power behind them. But the swarm of characters is a problem for me, which is the only thing getting in the way of an otherwise great way of showing how a simple romance can turn into a road trip for your life based on that. I love Slater's performance and dialogue as well: "I'm not satisfied until the spoon stands straight up."

85/100. Seen 4/8

[Wyldesyde19]

True Romance joins Mona Lisa, Lean’s version of Oliver Twist, and The Phantom Carriage as films I feel like I have seen before but really not sure of if I did and so I’ll consider them unwatched for now.

Then there are the films I haven’t seen in over 20 years that I should rewatch, such as Funny Games (original) along with Brotherhood of the Wolf. Both exist on the periphery of my memory but I’m unable to recall much about them, as a result. 20 years is a long time, after all.

[SpelingError]

True Romance is fine, but it had no chance at making my ballot.

True Romance (1993) - 3

This film was a mixed bag for me. For one, I don't know what it was going for with the characters. Clarence and Alabama's flaws are left out in the open, but given the weird 'they live happily ever after' ending, it seems like you're meant to root for the two of them, and that connection just wasn't there for me. Like, Clarence's Elvis Presley hallucination in the first act screamed "This guy needs serious help!" and I kept that impression all throughout the film. Alabama didn't prove much better in this regard as the way she shrugged Clarence's violence off (the line "I think what you did is so romantic" made me cringe so hard) also annoyed me. As per Tarantino style, the action is highly stylized, but I found very little of it exciting. Those scenes really could've used some tightening up in terms of editing and cinematography. Even the final shootout, though interesting on paper, suffered from this to a degree. With that being said, I liked a few aspects about this film. Tarantino's writing style isn't for everyone, and while a couple scenes like the n word conversation are cringe inducing, I enjoyed most of the dialogue and felt it brought enough style to the film to keep it entertaining from beginning to end. Tarantino has a talent for writing catchy and witty scripts and this film was no exception to that. The film also lives up to another of Tarantino's strengths as it has a strong ensemble cast. Slater, Hopper, Walken, Rubinek, Rapaport, and even Arquette, though her acting occasionally annoyed me, ranged from good to great. Finally, while the story didn't interest me much, I did enjoy a few smaller scenes within the larger story, like Elliot being pulled over by a cop. Issues aside, I enjoyed my time with this film and, while I doubt I'll ever end up loving it, I might watch it again if I'm in the right mood.

I haven't seen Porco Rosso.

[beelzebubble]

Well my one-pointer is somewhere on the list.
Of those movies revealed, I have only seen What's Eating Gilbert Grape.
It is not on my list. I do like Lasse Halstrom, especially My Life as a Dog.

The best thing about WEGG was Leonardo DiCaprio's performance as the younger brother.
So far nothing from me.

[I_Wear_Pants]

True Romance has a hell of an atmosphere going for it, but the real issue is that the major characters are drowned out a swarm of side characters. Not enough Kilmer, Walken, Jackson, Oldman or Hopper. Now I liked the plot well enough, and there were easily several brilliant scenes with some major raw power behind them. But the swarm of characters is a problem for me, which is the only thing getting in the way of an otherwise great way of showing how a simple romance can turn into a road trip for your life based on that. I love Slater's performance and dialogue as well: "I'm not satisfied until the spoon stands straight up."

85/100. Seen 4/8

I do remember enjoying Hopper, Oldman, and Walken, but I don't remember much else, nor liking much else. It's also been like 18 years since I watched it so maybe my memory is just hazy on it. I do recall not liking it as much as I had hoped, and I watched it in my "Tarantino fan" days, so I can't imagine revisiting it now and liking it more.

[Omnizoa]

As much as I love animation in general, I don't love many animations from the 1990s. I wasn't really watching animation during the decade and I let nostalgia have a huge influence on my ballot, so much so that no animation made the cut. Having said that, I watched Porco Rosso sometime around the animation countdown. I didn't like it.I'm fairly confident that most of us overseas, with very limited exception (including one which may well make this Countdown), did not grow up with a lot of pre-2000s anime movies.

Studio Ghibli didn't even have much of an overseas presence until Princess Mononoke got dubbed in 2000 and Spirited Away released theatrically in 2001... both of which are likewise insanely over-represented when it comes to Ghibli's "best" movies.

If you were lucky (or unlucky), you might have caught Nausicaa's bastardized straight-to-VHS localization into Warriors of the Wind back in the 80s, before Disney gave it a proper dub and rereleased it unedited in 2005.

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Allegedly, this butchering scared off baby Ghibli from releasing more movies overseas, which doesn't surprise me. As it goes, it was already a massive bitch to even get original animations funded in the first place, so if it was enough of a pain to release a movie in Japan and THIS is what became of it overseas... then it's no wonder we didn't see more movies from Ghibli until the 2000s.

TLDR; I doubt anyone here over 25 saw Porco Rosso growing up.

[Little Ash]

Never saw True Romance. I really have no opinion of this fact. It's neither a movie I feel an inclination to seek out nor actively refuse to watch - I just have other, higher priorities.


Back in the mid-00s someone on the RT forums did a "favorite (20 or 30) Studio Ghibli movies," and placed Porco Rosso at number 1. It wouldn't be my number 1, but I respect that opinion. It was in consideration for my ballot, but was an early cut from what was becoming an ever-growing shortlist. Glad to see it make the countdown.

[PHOENIX74]

Excellent - my 100% record as to what I've seen continues....

94. True Romance (1993) - What I love most about True Romance is the sheer number of great actors we get to see deliver interesting and varied performances. Many are in small supporting roles, but they keep coming and all of them provide something interesting. Christian Slater and Patricia Arquette are serviceable in their lead roles, but for me are the least of what attracts me (I do like Christian Slater though, in general.) Dennis Hopper gets to play against type as the responsible, brave and devoted dad. Val Kilmer unfortunately we hardly see as "fantasy Elvis". Gary Oldman is devilish and scary as a drug dealer. Brad Pitt is hilarious as a hopeless yet very friendly stoner. Christopher Walken is unforgettable as a Mafia kingpin. Bronson Pinchot is loads of fun as a Hollywood underling. Samuel L. Jackson had yet to find himself, but is present. James Gandolfini is suitably ugly as a murderous thug. Chris Penn and Tom Sizemore really inhabit their roles as pushy detectives out for a big bust. When each of these performers appear on this film's stage I get excited - and as such True Romance is endlessly rewatchable. Didn't make my list, but I do like this film.


93. Porco Rosso (1992) - I caught up with this Studio Ghibli film when it briefly appeared in the Foreign Language countdown ages ago (due to a miscalculation it subsequently dropped out, but I still took note and managed to find it and watch it.) This was the first Hayao Miyazaki animated movie I ever saw, and as strange as it is I hadn't seen anything yet. I liked it well enough, and over the years I've managed to see quite a few others. No chance of making my list though.

Seen : 8/8

[stillmellow]

True Romance has a hell of an atmosphere going for it, but the real issue is that the major characters are drowned out a swarm of side characters. Not enough Kilmer, Walken, Jackson, Oldman or Hopper. Now I liked the plot well enough, and there were easily several brilliant scenes with some major raw power behind them. But the swarm of characters is a problem for me, which is the only thing getting in the way of an otherwise great way of showing how a simple romance can turn into a road trip for your life based on that. I love Slater's performance and dialogue as well: "I'm not satisfied until the spoon stands straight up."

85/100. Seen 4/8



It's a fun film, but yeah it has a lot of sillier moments and bizarre side characters. This isn't all bad, but for me it keeps our firmly in the mid-tier.


I keep meaning to watch Porco Rosso, but haven't gotten around to it. I love Studio Ghibli so much, you'd think I would have by now.


Seen: 3/6
List: 0/25

[mattiasflgrtll6]

Although it's not officially part of his 10™ movies, True Romance is one of Tarantino's career highlights. The script is witty and tight, and the chemistry between Christian Slater and Patricia Arquette is phenomenal. Something that he's always been surprisingly good at is writing romances. They never feel artificial and rarely rely on the typical genre conventions.
The characters are very memorable as usual, absolutely love Gandolfini's role as the mob enforcer Virgil.
Tony Scott's direction also complements the script beautifully, managing to inject his own high-octane energy while still keeping the dialogue intact. They honestly work even better together than he did with Rodriguez.

Haven't seen Porco Rosso, but as a fan of Miyazaki it's only a matter of time.

[Captain Quint]

6lists68pointsInterview with the Vampire (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/628-interview-with-the-vampire.html)Director
Neil Jordan, 1994

Starring
Tom Cruise, Brad Pitt, Antonio Banderas, Christian Slater

[Captain Quint]

4lists69pointsSleepless in Seattle (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/858-sleepless-in-seattle.html)Director
Nora Ephron, 1993

Starring
Meg Ryan, Tom Hanks, Ross Malinger, Bill Pullman

[Captain Quint]

A 2-way tie between Sleepless and tomorrow's entry will be broken by most ballots (6 to 4)

Interview - Cruise's casting caused some controversy at the time, Author Anne Rice adapted her 1976 novel into a screenplay with French actor Alain Delon in mind for the role of Louis. Later on, when it entered the casting stage, British actor Julian Sands was championed by Rice and fans of the novel to play Lestat.

Sleepless was the 2nd Hanks/Ryan pairing, the first with Nora Ephron (later, the trio would reunite for "You Got Mail"). The script went through several rewrites before it got into Ephron's hands - an aside: I was working at a video store at the time, and we had a flood of requests for An Affair to Remember (1957) during its release.

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Both movies were previously unranked

[Robert the List]

Heard of: 6/10
Started: 7/10
Finished: 1/10
In my ballot: 0/10

[mattiasflgrtll6]

How could you have heard of 6 yet started 7?

[ueno_station54]

i maybe saw interview as a child??

[Allaby]

I've seen Interview with a Vampire and Sleepless in Seattle and liked both, but didn't vote for either one.

Seen: 9/10

[mattiasflgrtll6]

Interview With The Vampire is a great film. The story has you captivated from beginning to end, with Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise giving one of their best performances ever. Pitt conveys that emptiness and desperate search for some form of happiness splendidly, while Cruise is very creepy as the head vampire Lestat and really disappears into the role. Casting directors took the right lesson since he was later tasked to play another villain in Collateral.

We also have up-and-comer Kirsten Dunst who makes a very strong impression as a little girl who is dragged down into the same hell.

With all of the reveals so far there's always one movie I haven't seen. Sleepless In Seattle I did start watching when it played on TV, but stopped since it failed to invest me. Maybe I'll give it another try some day.

[John-Connor]

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Solid reveals today! Interview With The Vampire is a long time favorite of mine. Had it @ # 16 on my Horror ballot but didn't include it this time around. Glad it made the list regardless! Sleepless in Seattle is fun, starring one of my favorite actors Tom Hanks.

Seen 10/10
Ballot 00/25

[Holden Pike]

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Interview with the Vampire was #55 on the first MoFo Top 100 Horror Films, then moved up to #44 on the reboot of that list.

[Robert the List]

How could you have heard of 6 yet started 7?
Because I had tried The Celebration but I didn't know/remember what it was called.
Would have had no idea that's what that film was called.

[cricket]

For those who say this doesn't look like the 90's, you're gonna be pooping rainbows today. I was taken aback about how 90's this days reveals are. I've seen both once, enjoyed them, and I would watch them again but not care if I didn't.

[Little Ash]

I have seen Interview with a Vampire.
I'm pretty sure I've seen scenes from Sleepless in Seattle on TV back in the 90s. Also could have been You've Got Mail. Could conceivably re-watch the former one day out of curiosity to see what I think of it now. No interest in either Sleepless or Mail.

[MovieGal]

I have seen Interview With A Vampire. Not the best adaptation of Anne Rice's novel. I read the book before the movie came out and had some hang-ups with the characters (Armand and Louis especially). I didnt like Tom Cruise as Lestat.

I have never seen Sleepless in Seattle.

[Thursday Next]

Seen both, multiple times.


Interview with the Vampire is a good film, even if some of it departs a little from the book (which I loved). Good performances, atmosphere, style and doesn't either hold back from the horror aspects or go too far over the top. Just outside my top 25 but definitely in my 90s top 100.



Sleepless in Seattle is fine, if a little gooey. Not really a favourite but better than You've Got Mail.

Seen: 9/10
My list: 2/25

[Miss Vicky]

Hey look, it's the third of four Christian Slater movies I voted for! (and second of four Brad Pitt movies. Also first of two Antonio Banderas movies.) I wonder if #4 will make the cut? I'm not normally big on fantasy or horror so fantasy horror really shouldn't be my thing, but when that fantasy horror is essentially a VERY homoerotic period piece starring three incredibly hot dudes (not Tom Cruise) being all broody and lusting after each other, I'm in. I voted for it at #24.

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I've seen Sleepless in Seattle a few times and I vaguely remember liking it but haven't seen it in ages. Rom Coms were much more my thing in my teens than they are now.

Seen: 8/10
My Balllot:
12. True Romance (#94)
24. Interview With the Vampire (#92)
25. Untamed Heart (One Pointer)

[MovieGal]

Hey look, it's the third of four Christian Slater movies I voted for! (and second of four Brad Pitt movies. Also first of two Antonio Banderas movies.) I wonder if #4 will make the cut? I'm not normally big on fantasy or horror so fantasy horror really shouldn't be my thing, but when that fantasy horror is essentially a VERY homoerotic period piece starring three incredibly hot dudes (not Tom Cruise) being all broody and lusting after each other, I'm in. I voted for it at #24.

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I've seen Sleepless in Seattle a few times and I vaguely remember liking it but haven't seen it in ages. Rom Coms were much more my thing in my teens than they are now.

Seen: 8/10
My Balllot:
12. True Romance (#94)
24. Interview With the Vampire (#92)
25. Untamed Heart (One Pointer)


Have you seen the tv series?

If not, i think you would enjoy it.

[Miss Vicky]

Have you seen the tv series?

If not, i think you would enjoy it.

I have not. I don't watch TV. I prefer my visual media in neat little packages that are entirely complete after a couple of hours (3 at most, but shorter is better). I just watched the trailer for it and it looks kind of fun, but those dudes are not doing it for me. Brad, Antonio, and Christian they are not.