26th Hall of Fame

[Citizen Rules]

Hey, I'm supposed to be this forum's link provider. How dare you!Ha:) It's my nom bro:p

[SpelingError]

Ha:) It's my nom bro:p

Hm, fair enough. I won't cancel you then :)

[Citizen Rules]

Hm, fair enough. I won't cancel you then :)Sounds good:D


BTW I can't wait for the reveal, we've got some very different types of movies here and it'll be interesting to see how the end up.

[SpelingError]

Sounds good:D


BTW I can't wait for the reveal, we've got some very different types of movies here and it'll be interesting to see how the end up.

Yeah, I'm looking forward to the reveal as well. I predict that either The Wizard of Oz or The Passion of Joan of Arc will win.

[Citizen Rules]

Yeah, I'm looking forward to the reveal as well. I predict that either The Wizard of Oz or The Passion of Joan of Arc will win.Yeah could be, at least I'm fairly sure they will finish high. After all the ballots are in I sometimes post my predictions, not that I could guess the exact order but I have an inkling of what will finish top third, mid third, bottom third.

[Wyldesyde19]

Joan of Arc with possibly Presidents Men being your there. I know some didn’t care for it, but it seems to be getting mostly positive reviews.

But I’d be ecstatic to see a silent film when this.

[seanc]

What is the deadline for this?

[rauldc14]

What is the deadline for this?

Dec 8th I thought

[SpelingError]

Yeah, December 8th is the deadline. I have that date posted in the second post in this thread.

[SpelingError]

Speaking of which...

You all have three weeks left to finish this thread. Here's where everyone stands as of now:

Allaby (11/12)
BooBooKittyFock (5/12)
edarsenal (8/12)
jiraffejustin (6/12)
PHOENIX74 (11/12)
rauldc14 (10/12)
seanc (10/12)
Siddon (5/12)
ueno_station54 (9/12)
Wyldesyde19 (5/12)

[Citizen Rules]

Speaking of which...

You all have three weeks left to finish this thread. Here's where everyone stands as of now:

@Allaby (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=110465) (11/12)
@BooBooKittyFock (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=105434) (5/12)
@edarsenal (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=50536) (8/12)
@jiraffejustin (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=76459) (6/12)
@PHOENIX74 (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=112080) (11/12)
@rauldc14 (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=60169) (10/12)
@seanc (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=75240) (10/12)
@Siddon (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=95448) (5/12)
@ueno_station54 (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=111569) (9/12)
@Wyldesyde19 (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=104656) (5/12)...if people can watch 7 movies in just 3 weeks, then a little math says that equates to 3 days per movie. Meaning the next HoF with 12 movies could be done in only 36 days;)

[Wyldesyde19]

Will watch Sweet Smell of Success tonight.

[BooBooKittyFock]

I was hoping more of my films would
Be available via streaming services but alas, I have seen all the films I can.

Anyone have a link to:

All the presidents men?

[SpelingError]

I was hoping more of my films would
Be available via streaming services but alas, I have seen all the films I can.

Anyone have a link to:

All the presidents men?

Sent!

[rauldc14]

...if people can watch 7 movies in just 3 weeks, then a little math says that equates to 3 days per movie. Meaning the next HoF with 12 movies could be done in only 36 days;)

I'm sure you were joking, but I can tell you now there's no way I could watch 12 in 36 days.

[Allaby]

...if people can watch 7 movies in just 3 weeks, then a little math says that equates to 3 days per movie. Meaning the next HoF with 12 movies could be done in only 36 days;)

I've watched 12 movies just in the past 6 days, so it is definitely possible.

[SpelingError]

That's why I usually add on an extra couple weeks to the deadline in addition to the one film per week rule. That way, in case anyone falls behind, they'll have a chance to catch up.

[Citizen Rules]

I'm sure you were joking, but I can tell you now there's no way I could watch 12 in 36 days.Yeah joking of course and it would be nuts doing 12 movies in just 36 days! That would never work out for most people.

But I was also making an observation that perhaps the 1 movie per week standard might not really be necessary. Look at the Personal Recommendation IV how long has it been going on now? Long enough for me to totally lose interest.

[SpelingError]

But I was also making an observation that perhaps the 1 movie per week standard might not really be necessary. Look at the Personal Recommendation IV how long has it been going on now? Long enough for me to totally lose interest.

I generally like giving people extra time, but if it isn't necessary to make the deadline this long, I suppose I could shorten it for the future HoFs I host.

[Citizen Rules]

I generally like giving people extra time, but if it isn't necessary to make the deadline this long, I suppose I could shorten it for the future HoFs I host.It's up to you as the host of course. I'm just saying I think it's a myth that people need so much time to watch a few movies...and most people say they've seen a number of the noms in HoFs so don't always watch them all, which is fine.

I've hosted a number of HoFs and almost always had 1 week per movie myself, just because that was the standard...But one time Cricket hosted the 12th HoF and he had 5 days per movie and that worked fined. I then tried 5 days per movie in the 15th HoF and that also went fine.

[SpelingError]

It's up to you as the host of course. I'm just saying I think it's a myth that people need so much time to watch a few movies...and most people say they've seen a number of the noms in HoFs so don't always watch them all, which is fine.

I've hosted a number of HoFs and almost always had 1 week per movie myself, just because that was the standard...But one time Cricket hosted the 12th HoF and he had 5 days per movie and that worked fined. I then tried 5 days per movie in the 15th HoF and that also went fine.
I suppose I could eliminate the couple extra weeks for the Twilight Zone HoF. I plan to do two episodes per week.

[Citizen Rules]

I suppose I could eliminate the couple extra weeks for the Twilight Zone HoF. I plan to do two episodes per week.Totally up to you Speling. I was talking general and thinking more about future HoFs. I'm just glad you're doing The Twilight Zone HoF🙂

[SpelingError]

Totally up to you Speling. I was talking general and thinking more about future HoFs. I'm just glad you're doing The Twilight Zone HoF🙂

Thanks, I'm looking forward to it.

[Wyldesyde19]

Got distracted quite a bit during the last few days. Going to watch Sweet Smell of Success tonight after I watch West Beirut.

[Wyldesyde19]

Can I get a link to Last Year at Marienbad, please?

Thanks in advance. 👍

[SpelingError]

Can I get a link to Last Year at Marienbad, please?

Thanks in advance. 👍

Sent!

[Wyldesyde19]

Sweet Smell of Success

J.J Hunsecker was a villain for the ages. The kind that controlled people lives with a well placed column. How well their careers shines depended on his good graces. To him, lives weren’t worth the paper his column was printed on.

His temper was only matched by his ego, and Lancaster plays him with a sinister, yet cool, charisma that slithers on screen like a snake. To be on his bad side didn’t get you a bad write up on his column. It got you none at all. And for many, no press was far worse than any press, good or bad. Such was the hold J.J. held, much like on one hold another throat in a fit of rage. The difference was his rage was focused. And if he focused it on you, woe to you for being unfortunate enough to get on his bad side.

Which brings us to the story. Poor Falco, a press agent who can’t get any press for his clients, finds himself on J.J.’s bad side for failing to dissuade a jazz musician from courting Hunseckers sister.

Going any further would spoil so much of it. It’s an experience you have to witness yourself. It flows with a wonderful script with some great lines

“My right isn’t known what my left hand does in years”
“The cats in the bag, and the bags in the river.”
Taken alone, they don’t mean much, but taken in the context of the film, they pack a wallop.

And Lancaster and Curtis are the amazing in this, both exuding a noxious performance that would make anyone sick. Such is their presence.

Great film. Fantastic gem. Wonderful pick.

[Citizen Rules]

@Wyldesyde19 (https://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=104656) I'm glad to hear that you though well of Sweet Smell of Success. I know it won't win, but if someone really gets something out of one of my noms then it encourages me to keep joining these HoFs. Funny thing is I was just thinking about a nom for the 27th and came to the conclusion that it's really hard to pick a nom that pleases everyone! Anyway your review gave me some needed encouragement.

[Wyldesyde19]

@Wyldesyde19 (https://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=104656) I'm glad to hear that you though well of Sweet Smell of Success. I know it won't win, but if someone really gets something out of one of my noms then it encourages me to keep joining these HoFs. Funny thing is I was just thinking about a nom for the 27th and came to the conclusion that it's really hard to pick a nom that pleases everyone! Anyway your review gave me some needed encouragement.
It was a really great film.
Noms are a tricky thing. You know not everyone will like it, but you hope enough will. In the past I went with lesser known films that few had probably seen (The Whisperers, Dust in the Wind, The Thief ) knowing it didn’t have much of a chance to succeed, but at least it introduced people to them. That’s all that matters to me.

[rauldc14]

Boo Boo still in or out?

[Citizen Rules]

It was a really great film.
Noms are a tricky thing. You know not everyone will like it, but you hope enough will. In the past I went with lesser known films that few had probably seen (The Whisperers, Dust in the Wind, The Thief ) knowing it didn’t have much of a chance to succeed, but at least it introduced people to them. That’s all that matters to me.I was one of the few who was completely impressed with The Whisperers. That film seemed to garner very different reactions. For me it was one of the highlights of that HoF...and something I'd never gotten to see if you had not nominated it. I enjoyed The Thief and Dust in the Wind, they didn't blow me away but once again it was a treat to watch them and I'd never even heard of them before...so glad you picked them.

Right now for the 27th I'm considering a really well known/well watched film that I love. I'm also considering a film everyone will probably hate, but I think it's a landmark in film making:cool: Seriously!

[SpelingError]

Boo Boo still in or out?

BooBooKittyFock

[Allaby]

I rewatched Sweet Smell of Success (1959). Fantastically directed by Alexander Mackendrick, the film stars Burt Lancaster and Tony Curtis. This is a really smart and entertaining film that packs a punch. Burt Lancaster and Tony Curtis are both excellent and the dialogue really crackles. The score is great and the cinematography is really well done. I had seen this one before and loved it. The film is even better on rewatch. I've seen 3 films directed by Mackendrick and this is his best, in my opinion. It holds up really well and still has a lot to say to audiences today. Great nomination. My rating is 4.5.

[Citizen Rules]

I rewatched Sweet Smell of Success (1959). Fantastically directed by Alexander Mackendrick, the film stars Burt Lancaster and Tony Curtis. This is a really smart and entertaining film that packs a punch. Burt Lancaster and Tony Curtis are both excellent and the dialogue really crackles. The score is great and the cinematography is really well done. I had seen this one before and loved it. The film is even better on rewatch. I've seen 3 films directed by Mackendrick and this is his best, in my opinion. It holds up really well and still has a lot to say to audiences today. Great nomination. My rating is rating_4_5.Glad you liked it Allaby. What were the other two films directed by Mackendrick that you watched? And were they good?

[Allaby]

Glad you liked it Allaby. What were the other two films directed by Mackendrick that you watched? And were they good?

The other two were The Ladykillers (1955) and The Man in the White Suit (1951). The Ladykillers was very good, 8/10. The Man in the White Suit was alright,6/10. Both are worth watching though.

[Citizen Rules]

The other two were The Ladykillers (1955) and The Man in the White Suit (1951). The Ladykillers was very good, 8/10. The Man in the White Suit was alright,6/10. Both are worth watching though.I seen The Ladykillers (1955)and it's a well done movie, but not really my cup of tea. I hadn't heard of The Man in the White Suit before...but I'm not really much into British comedy, though the sci fi comedy part might be fun.

[rauldc14]

I doubt Boo Boo finishes but I'm halfway through a Cinema Paradiso rewatch

[SpelingError]

Allaby is the 3rd member to finish!

[SpelingError]

I doubt Boo Boo finishes but I'm halfway through a Cinema Paradiso rewatch

Boo Boo posted in this thread five days ago, so they may still be in.

[rauldc14]

Boo Boo posted in this thread five days ago, so they may still be in.

I got 37 minutes left of that but I doubt they're in.

I'll try to get to Oz and finish this next week.

[SpelingError]

Yeah, I suppose so. Until we get a confirmation from Boo Boo, it might be a good idea for everyone to save Cinema Paradiso till the end.

[jiraffejustin]

All the President's Men

I was kind of dreading this film a little bit. Not because I thought it would be a bad movie or anything, but I am just not really in the mind of watching what I guess I would call "basic" or "normal" movies right now. Plus the runtime is also something I was looking forward to. I knew it had a chance of blowing my expectations out of the water, because it involved talented people during a hot period for American cinema. As the film got going, I was pretty immediately sucked into the break-in scene. It was well-shot and did have that cool American New Wave look to it. After that the film shifted gears into what it would become for the remainder of the film. It started to focus on Woodward and Bernstein's investigation into Watergate and events surrounding the players involved in that scandal and other scandals. Initially their investigation was pretty exciting, as I do tend to romanticize investigations as exciting, so I can live vicariously through these type of films for a short while. But the film seemed to never really shift gears or really show the stakes of this investigation. We hear that their lives are potentially in danger, but it that is kinda blown off. The big payoff to the investigation is shown through typed headlines as they are just shown at their desks. I enjoyed watching this film, but it got repetitive and doesn't come to a satisfying conclusion to an event that could have ended in a satisfying way.

[SpelingError]

You all have two weeks left to finish this thread. Here's where everyone stands as of now:

BooBooKittyFock (5/12)
edarsenal (8/12)
jiraffejustin (7/12)
PHOENIX74 (11/12)
rauldc14 (10/12)
seanc (10/12)
Siddon (5/12)
ueno_station54 (9/12)
Wyldesyde19 (6/12)

There's not much of a change from last week, but I trust you'll all finish in time. Let me know if you need an extra week to finish. Also, I don't know if BooBoo is in this anymore, but just to be on the safe side, it might be good to save Cinema Paradiso till the end if you're short on time.

[Wyldesyde19]

Last year in Marienbad is on tap for tonight.

[Citizen Rules]

...if people can watch 7 movies in just 3 weeks, then a little math says that equates to 3 days per movie. Meaning the next HoF with 12 movies could be done in only 36 days;)Correction...if people can watch 6 movies in just 2 weeks then a little more math says 12 movies could be watched in only 28 days!;)

[ueno_station54]

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Last Year at Marienbad (Alain Resnais, 1961)

You ever get told "Oh you'll just love this person, you're so alike" and then you meet that person and you can't stand them? That's me with this movie kind of (though its admittedly an exaggeration) as it feels like it was tailor-made to appeal to me in so many aspects but mostly just falls flat. Like, it reminds me of a lot like Cocteau or Bunuel but without any of the fun unfortunately. Obviously there is no shortage of technical wizardry on display and the framing and shot choices are money but its tricks get old rather quick and it eventually gets pretty monotonous and even though I'm usually really into films being filled to the brim with flowery narration nothing on this front really grabbed me at all. I think films that feel overly meticulous just tend to not resonate with me (though I weirdly really liked Russian Ark which I think is very similar to this). The weirdest complaint I have is with the music because I adore it on its own and I love how strongly it enforces the vibe of the film but I hate the vibe of the film lmao. Its just so cold and stiff and the few times it does something weird in a fun way (the one super overexposed that 1000% appeals to my sensibilities) or does some funky, dynamic cuts aren't enough to sway my overall impression of the film as much as I wish they could. I certainly can't say I hate it. The good moments are too good and the parts I can't stand I still have to begrudgingly appreciate on some level. I don't quite know yet how I'm going to rank this one.

[jiraffejustin]

I don't quite know yet how I'm going to rank this one.

you gonna rank it pretty high

[ueno_station54]

you gonna rank it pretty high
I think I know where its slotting it. Depends what exactly "pretty high" means.

[ueno_station54]

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The Celebration (Thomas Vinterberg, 1998)

A kind of fun idea, middle-of-the-road script, horrendous acting but the thing that really elevates it is the aesthetic. It has the feel of one of those 90s skate tapes at points with the equipment its shot on and I am so here for that. Uhh, yeah just that and some really creative shots and angles. Everything else is whatever but I got what I needed out of just the camerawork and the camera itself. Dug it.

It seems to be up in the air if Cinema Paradiso is going to be required viewing or not and that's my only remaining film. Let me know when there's a verdict on that I guess please and thanks <3

[rauldc14]

Cinema Paradiso

This was my second time watching the film as it was nominated in a previous Hall of Fame I was in. I suppose I liked it a tad less than next time but I can still appreciate the movie. I believe I watched the extended version last time as this time it felt a bit more of a different watch. I'm not sure what the differences actually are. It just didn't feel as magical I guess. Like last time I liked the character of Toto quite a bit.

3.5

[Siddon]

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The Wizard of Oz(1939)

The 1930's studio system is often looked down upon. Today we look at directors or producers and what they can bring to the table. The Wizard of Oz is demonstrative of what you get with a big studio system. It's a film with one star (Judy Garland) and she's surrounded by character actors, vaudevillian figures, and extras. Everyone is cast perfectly, but what's great about the film is the small actors all get to shine and get to give definitive work/acts. Even the damn dog Toto gets his time to shine as he does stunts and plays into the plot.

If the film has any faults it's that while the songs are great the execution is a bit lacking. But a part of me love the technical aspects of the film the makeup, the matte paintings, the specific effects that blend old Hollywood with new Hollywood while exploring the elements of color. It feels less like art and more like an entertainment event this is meant for people to love and it's timeless.

Some films you need to watch two or three times when you are watching them again others you can just sit through and watch from start to finish...That's The Wizard of Oz.

[edarsenal]

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Sweet Smell of Success (1957)

J.J. Hunsecker: Son, I don't relish shooting a mosquito with an elephant gun, so why don't you just shuffle along?

To be stuck between a rock and a hard place is one thing, but to be beneath the thumb of a manipulating tyrant and his venomous viper?
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuccckkkkk

And that is the emotional/psychological quagmire that poor lil Susie (Susan Harrison) and her sparkling clean jazz musician boyfriend (Martin Milner) are up against. With a severe unlikelihood of good people surviving the cruel manipulations of downright sh#tty people like her brother (Burt Lancaster,) a Gossip Columnist with FAR TOO much power over everyone else and the ladder climbing, immorally-vacant toady (Tony Curtis) he's employed to break them up.

We enter as the proposition is already in play and drawing to a close, using many actual locations, both inside crowded bars and even more hectic city streets. We hit the dirty streets running, neck-to-neck, with the slime trail that Curtis and Lancaster's characters consider their given (fought for) right in the most possessive, callous way. It is expressed not only by their flippant disregard to anyone and everyone once they no longer serve a purpose to the very acidic, clever dialogue that is the heart blood of this pageantry of Pr#cks Gone Wild.

The on-location shots, clipped vocal abuse, fast-running scheming with Master Players sans heart or moral compass is given an almost intimate presentation as we witness every nuance of action and facial expression. For me, those nuances are exhibited most exuberantly via Curtis' truly serpentine character of malice and self-protective actions of slithering through the muck and mire for a more secure place in the echelon of journalistic parasites. Just watching the cogs and gears forever shifting and cranking away in every scene is a marvel to see. Even Lancaster, whom I have said seems to hit and miss for me, is a towering bully that intellectually pummels just because he can, is of equal grand stature.
What gives this film an additional level of compelling nuance is that even the fodder they chew up and spit out in the two doomed lovers is portrayed with equal zeal and professional style. Harrison's brow-beaten little sister is a very sympathetic character without being annoying or seen as pitiful and thereby worthy of the cruelty to her. The same goes for Milner's clean-cut character portrayed with solidity with the imagined cape of a superhero whenever he stands up to Curtis and Lancaster. It is never a trope or one-dimensional, but with authenticity to it, and that's a tricky slope to maneuver, as we all know.
This authenticity reverberates through the rest of the cast, from the cigarette girl Curtis' Sydney uses for the lustful appetite of a competing columnist to our jazz musician's caring (uncle? manager?) and so on and so forth.


Bravo!

[SpelingError]

Do you guys think we should we remove BooBooKittyFock from this Hall, or should we keep them in?

[Wyldesyde19]

Do you guys think we should we remove BooBooKittyFock from this Hall, or should we keep them in?
Contact him/her and see what is going on.

I’m out of town, so I can’t watch anything atm, but I’ll be back tonight

[SpelingError]

Okay, I'll dm them.

[edarsenal]

yeah, it's always good to check with the person first. If not a few times, should it prove difficult out of fairness. Some folks DO knock things out very quickly at the end just like a few do the same right out the gate, so a little common courtesy is a good thing.

[Wyldesyde19]

In going to need another link to Last Year at Marienbad, please.
The current one keeps freezing and then restarting from the beginning after a few minutes. 🙁

[Citizen Rules]

In going to need another link to Last Year at Marienbad, please.
The current one keeps freezing and then restarting from the beginning after a few minutes. 🙁I got the one I watched, with subs. Sent

[Wyldesyde19]

Finished Marienbad and….I may rewatch it tomorrow because I don’t know what to think of it. And I feel like I need to have some sort of idea of how to review it but….hmmm. I’m lost. It’s neither bad or good. It’s just…there, tantalizingly perplexing me. Certainly it looks amazing. But the story….hmmm.
Yeah, going to give it another go tomorrow.
Maybe fresher eyes will help give me a better grasp. Or maybe I’m thinking too much on it.

[SpelingError]

Finished Marienbad and….I may rewatch it tomorrow because I don’t know what to think of it. And I feel like I need to have some sort of idea of how to review it but….hmmm. I’m lost. It’s neither bad or good. It’s just…there, tantalizingly perplexing me. Certainly it looks amazing. But the story….hmmm.
Yeah, going to give it another go tomorrow.
Maybe fresher eyes will help give me a better grasp. Or maybe I’m thinking too much on it.

Out of curiosity, is that going to be your review for the film, or do you plan to write some more on the film later on?

[Wyldesyde19]

Out of curiosity, is that going to be your review for the film, or do you plan to write some more on the film later on?
Haha. Oh no, I plan on writing a proper review. After the rewatch, of course.

[edarsenal]

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Not Quite Hollywood; The Wild Untold Story of Ozploitation (2008)

Just like the subject matter, this documentary moves along at quite an amusing, informative pace, with a lot of funny, straightforward interviews and anecdotes from the various directors, actors, actresses, and leading stuntmen who seriously took their lives in their hands during the raw production of car chases. That had no Safety Guidelines of kind and crazy sh#t, was just done and, fingers crossed, they got it on film. They even have a straight-faced critic ripping on all of it with dry humor.

It is broken down into three sections - bawdy sex comedies. Horrific thrillers and finally the rampaging Action flicks made in Australia during the seventies and eighties.
Starting with the strict movie codes in place when it all started and how they went about taking the piss on said codes. Followed by a few surprise hits and the government's financial backing unleashing a plethora of low-quality but amusing B Films that competed with the then, Grindhouse films of the U.S.

I chuckled, I learned, I got caught up in the stories and interviews. The time flew by as the list of the grotesque, outrageous, uninhibited, unabashed, and unapologetic films unfolded before me.

[BooBooKittyFock]

Hey all, I haven’t forgotten about this.

A few weeks ago I had a miniature heart attack and went to the er and was transferred to impatient for a week. After I spent a lot of time going to doctors appointments and the cardiologist trying to get my blood pressure down. It was 200/130.

Just been dieting and trying to go on a short walk every night (alongside blood pressure medication). I can probably get in two films by the end of the week. Sorry if y’all were trying to get in contact with me.

[rauldc14]

Think it's due next week, unless there's an extension.

[SpelingError]

Hey all, I haven’t forgotten about this.

A few weeks ago I had a miniature heart attack and went to the er and was transferred to impatient for a week. After I spent a lot of time going to doctors appointments and the cardiologist trying to get my blood pressure down. It was 200/130.

Just been dieting and trying to go on a short walk every night (alongside blood pressure medication). I can probably get in two films by the end of the week. Sorry if y’all were trying to get in contact with me.

Sorry that you went through all that, man. I hope you're feeling better now.

The current deadline is December 8th, but if you'd like an extension, let me know and I'll be glad to include one.

[edarsenal]

Hey all, I haven’t forgotten about this.

A few weeks ago I had a miniature heart attack and went to the er and was transferred to impatient for a week. After I spent a lot of time going to doctors appointments and the cardiologist trying to get my blood pressure down. It was 200/130.

Just been dieting and trying to go on a short walk every night (alongside blood pressure medication). I can probably get in two films by the end of the week. Sorry if y’all were trying to get in contact with me.

That is rough, hope you're feeling better, take care!!!

[Wyldesyde19]

Last year at Marienbad

This is a difficult film to properly review, as on one hand it’s fantastic to watch. Mesmerizing, even. But it’s also difficult to comprehend. Resnais glides around with the camera seamlessly, following long corridors and empty hallways, ignoring the people who stand perfectly still, as if mannequins in a store window.

The film centers around a man and a woman who supposedly met one year ago. The man tries to to convince her of this. She denies the meeting ever took place. We see the mans memories as he explains to her their past. She switches seamlessly from black to white throughout the film.

I’m sure there much to dissect here. Hidden clues that if you blink you may miss it. Eventually I had to settle for just experiencing it, and figure it out later. If I ever do.

And really, that’s what I chose to focus on. The experience. Much like the couple, I felt lost at times in this. But even if I almost, I still haven’t forgotten the structure. Or the mise-en-scene. It was wonderful to look at.
It’ll be even more difficult to properly rate.

[Wyldesyde19]

May I get a link to Angel-A please?

[SpelingError]

May I get a link to Angel-A please?

Sent!

[jiraffejustin]

Festen

This is the first Dogme 95 film (I think). I don't know the rules by heart, but I knew that the rules are meant to provide restrictions for some reason that I'm sure they laid out in their manifestos or whatever. With this being a style new to me, I knew it would take a little bit into the film to decide how I feel about what I am seeing. I also knew that if I loved it, it would be probably get an unfair boost from being unlike anything I have to compare it to. That's kind of what happened. There are a bunch of interesting and exciting shots. A lot of the film felt like I was secretly watching a f*cked up family's home videos in voyeuristic fashion. But if you are going to watch a family's home videos, this family seems to have the hottest goss on the block. I enjoyed this a good deal, but I'll have to report back on it after I see more from the movement.

[SpelingError]

You all have one week left to finish this thread. Here's where everyone stands as of now:

BooBooKittyFock (5/12)
edarsenal (10/12)
jiraffejustin (8/12)
PHOENIX74 (11/12)
rauldc14 (11/12)
seanc (10/12)
Siddon (6/12)
ueno_station54 (11/12)
Wyldesyde19 (7/12)

As an aside, BooBoo is still in this HoF, so make sure to watch Cinema Paradiso if you haven't yet.

Also, let me know if you need an extension.

[rauldc14]

I'm watching Oz as we speak. Not that I really needed to anyways.

[ueno_station54]

I'll get this finished up on the weekend <3

[SpelingError]

I'm watching Oz as we speak. Not that I really needed to anyways.
But what if I'm not speaking right now? Liar!

[Siddon]

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Sweet Smell of Success(1957)

Some films really show their age...and that's not a bad thing. Sweet Smell of Success was released in the late 50's, it sort of works as a nexus point between the independent cinema movement, the noir movement, and the French new wave. It's one of those films that just kinda sucks you in with it's atmosphere and sense of cool. Burt Lansecker plays a newspaper owner who sometimes feels like a Hollywood exec and other times a boss of a crime family he wants a low level publicist(Tony Curtis) to break up a relationship his sister has with another man.

The film was shot in New York and it's a claustrophobic crowded New York. It gives a feeling of realism a lot of city based noirs don't have. Also it's a bloodless noir which I really appreciated, the crime is built up throughout the story...and it's a relatively minor offense but it's treated like a major one. I really dug that about this film, it's constantly moralizing and talking and building even though at the end of the day the stakes are fairly mild.

The film does have it's flaws, like most films of this type it's stuck with it's four actor structure. It gives the film a theatrical quality to it which I think under-serves it. I think Hudsecker needed to feel like a bigger deal for the plot to move along and he at times feels very small when he should be a major heavy. Curtis on the other hand is an actor I never really thought much of but this is his career high he's great in this. Normally he needs to play off someone but here he was to work wonders with bit players.

End of the day it's a good watch, had I not seen the film before I think I would likely give it a much higher rating. It's a great recommendation but not a great re-visitation.

[PHOENIX74]

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Angel-A - 2005

Directed by Luc Besson

Written by Luc Besson

Starring Jamel Debbouze & Rie Rasmussen

It seems it had all been a bit too excessive for Luc Besson. The late 1990s - The Fifth Element and then the no less ambitious The Messenger: The Story of Joan of Arc. Creating works of style and spectacle ended with a hiatus of 6 years and then the much simpler, pared back but still visually arresting Angel-A comes along. Nothing could be further from the cacophony of sight and sound that Besson had built in Element, but nevertheless I'm a fan of minimalist cinematic fare. For Angel-A we have Paris anyway, and we're taken there in beautiful black and white - roaming the streets for the film's entire 90 minute run time, feeling like a tourist and soaking up what there is to see and losing ourselves in conversation and stylized music. It looks better than Paris in Woody Allen's Midnight in Paris and sounds more interesting. I sense Besson enjoyed the filming process of Angel-A with cinematographer Thierry Arbogast who had been with him throughout The Fifth Element and Joan of Arc. In fact, Arbogast goes back to Besson's Nikita in 1990 and Léon: The Professional in '94. When Besson stopped directing Arbogast kept filming and had just completed Catwoman (I often wonder what it's like for cinematographers on a film that's destined for a 'Worst Picture' Razzie) when Angel-A came along.

People will be very quick to mention It's a Wonderful Life when they start talking about Angel-A. When you have a character about to commit suicide by jumping off a bridge, and have that character save an angel who feigns suicide, you're almost in remake territory already. Our character is André, played by Amélie's Jamel Debbouze - a diminutive Parisian playing an American immigrant back in Paris and in deep with loan sharks. André isn't quite a hood, but runs in those circles, and is introduced with a voice-over which quickly establishes the humour and easy tone the film will adopt. He's one of those losers in film who it seems the entire world has conspired to bully and pick on, and who's tactics to avoid trouble often entail inviting twice the trouble he's trying to solve. With the debts he has, and with the United States embassy looking on his citizenship as a doubtful prospect without clear evidence, he finds himself hovering over the river Seine, suddenly noticing the tall and attractive Angela not far away. Angela is played by Rie Rasmussen, who at 5ft 10in isn't as monstrously tall in real life as she looks opposite Debbouze. Rasmussen, born in Denmark, has a masculine feel to her contrasting André's feminine traits.

The pairing of André and Angela - Debbouze and Rasmussen - is the heart of Angel-A. Angela will challenge André, but at the same time effortlessly help him in times of great need. She is not initially introduced as an angel (although the film makes no attempt to hide the fact she is, with it's title literally spelling it out for us.) As such we do wonder if her personal touch is magical or simply very persuasive. In fact at one stage we're led to believe she's simply a prostitute - which bothers André a great deal, but she forcefully insists on doing whatever she's set her mind to. With Angela at his side André suddenly has the money he needs to pay his debts but seems too attached to his troubles to accept an easy way out. In any event - for Angela to succeed in her heavenly mission André has to wizen up, be more honest, and walk a straight line. Everything becomes complicated though, when André falls for Angela and it becomes apparent that Angela feels the same way. What will happen when Angela's mission is over and she spreads her wings to fly home?

It's all so very straightforward - most of Besson's own screenplay is conversational dialogue between Angela and André as she tries repeatedly to get him to notice his own mistakes and make changes to his incessantly self-destructive behaviour. It's at it's most playful when it comes to André talking to various underworld figures around Paris, pretending to be many things he's not - which is part of his problem. Debbouze has an innate ability to be comedic, and is a pleasure to watch. Rasmussen looks great, but has a sharp intellect and writes and directs films when she's not dancing the streets of Paris in an enchanting manner for films like this. The soundtrack is diverse - Anja Garbarek provides a swirl of everything, and there are so many differing styles and sounds in it that it's impossible to just sum it up with a word or two indicating it's mood or quality. It's a mash of everything electronic and musical you could expect to hear, espousing the mood of different parts of the film. It doesn't demand you take your attention away from the film though, which is important.

As mentioned in the beginning - Paris is an important element for Arbogast, Besson and the film. Especially the bridges over the Seine, which achieve a particular prominence in this. Bridges and water seem especially significant, but we also find ourselves high up on the Eiffel tower (with André being dangled by another cross creditor) and framed in front of particularly important Parisian architecture. This really is a tour around the city, and for me the main highlight of the film itself. I guess if I were just a touch more cynical I could roll my eyes whenever the story takes us to another notable landmark but Arbogast captures everything so well I'm more than willing to go along with Angela and André on their sometimes meandering odyssey. It's okay to use something if you use it so well - and I imagine the story being set in the suburbs of Minsk would have been to it's absolute detriment. (Apologies for anyone reading this in suburban Minsk.)

Angel-A is a simple little fable, easy and pleasurable to watch, funny in parts and it doesn't overstay it's welcome. A refreshed return to directing for Luc Besson, who always prevaricated over if he'd have a long career in the director's chair. I enjoyed being introduced to Rie Rasmussen as well.

3.5

[gbgoodies]

Hey all, I haven’t forgotten about this.

A few weeks ago I had a miniature heart attack and went to the er and was transferred to impatient for a week. After I spent a lot of time going to doctors appointments and the cardiologist trying to get my blood pressure down. It was 200/130.

Just been dieting and trying to go on a short walk every night (alongside blood pressure medication). I can probably get in two films by the end of the week. Sorry if y’all were trying to get in contact with me.

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[SpelingError]

You guys have 5 days to finish this HoF. If you need an extension, please let me know.

[Siddon]

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Daisies (1966)


I was shocked that this wasn't a student film, if ever there's been a pretentious nominee in any of these hall's it's Daisies. Daisies tells the story of a pair of girls running through a line of men in Czechoslovakia..using men as a meal ticket...do you get it...well do you. Because the film takes it's obtuse ideas and just hits you over the head with it. If you are going to make an Avant-Gaurde at the very least have something original to say. And just because you can make a special effect doesn't mean that you should or need to do one.



This was just like a first year student wanted to try everything they could with their camera and then give us the audience a simplistic dull lecture on gender, wealth, life. Constantly the filmmaker chooses to switch up the filters and coloring of the shots...now this could be done to say something about tone...a better filmmaker would do that...Chytilova...not so much. The film attempts humor but it's silly humor where the lead actresses just act like babies...because women are babies..get it...don't you get it.



The movie only runs for an hour but because it's so poorly paced and each scene goes on forever it feels three times it's length.

[Wyldesyde19]

Watching Angel A now. Can I get a link to Cinema Paradiso for tonight? Thank you in advance.

[SpelingError]

Watching Angel A now. Can I get a link to Cinema Paradiso for tonight? Thank you in advance.

No, you can't!

Jk, link sent :)

[Wyldesyde19]

Angel-A

Luc Besson hasn’t ever been a subtle director, especially when you take into account that he emerged during the Cinema Du Look movement of the 80’s. *
So it’s no surprise that Angel-A lacks any subtlety, either.

Taking elements from both Its a Wonderful Life and The Bishop’s Wife, an Angel arrives to help a down on his luck scoundrel who has a heart of gold. Her job is to make him see his self worth, and offer guidance, while looking sexy and fashionable in high heels and a short black dress.

It’s not a bad film, but Besson goes cheap with the screenplay and avoids going for anything new or different, which is fine sometimes but then he muddies it further with the ending.

Near miss, for me, although Angela is good in the role, and there are some nice moments. They just don’t add up to anything for myself.

[jiraffejustin]

I've seen both Angel-A and Not Quite Hollywood, but I'll probably wait to say anything to about them until I finish up the Christie miniseries and Tower.

[Siddon]

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Not Quite Hollywood (2008)

In professional wrestling, wrestlers tend to have 5-10-15-20 year careers. Often times they wrestle the same matches, stay at the same spot on the card and end up with the same problems(drugs, women, money). You might be asking yourself what does this have to do with this film. Well when a wrestlers career comes to an end and they can't wrestle anymore they then go a tour of things called "shoots" where they talk to an interviewer and gossip about what happened during their 5-20 year career. It's the shoots that can turn an ordinary dull forgettable wrestler into a legend.

Not Quite Hollywood is basically a wrestling shoot that covers low budget cheap films from Australia. What makes this a great documentary is not the movies but the characters. Watching a collective of 50-70 year men who do not care one lick about their reputations was fantastic.

The film really captures the Aussie sense of humor perfectly. You have a bunch of guys who will quickly turn a phrase for a laugh but then on the screen you see this explosion of excess. Daisies could learn quite a bit about layering humor from the Aussies, and creating a dichotomy not just building to the most obvious joke.

If the film has a flaw it's that they really needed to either tighten up the pacing or just really elongate it. Because I could listen to these talking about bad movies for 10 hours or just a short little conversation. Also um "fun fact" but this week David Gulpilil who was in the Dennis Hopper part of the film died this week...I loved his little bit about having to do a walkabout because of Hopper.

[ueno_station54]

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Cinema Paradiso (Giuseppe Tornatore, 1988)

More like Cinema Paradeez nuts!

[SpelingError]

^ Just out of curiosity, are reviews allowed to be that short, or do they need to be longer?

[Wyldesyde19]

^ Just out of curiosity, are reviews allowed to be that short, or do they need to be longer?
They really should be a little more in depth. They should talk about the film at the very least, and what they liked or didn’t like about it.

[ueno_station54]

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Cinema Paradiso (Giuseppe Tornatore, 1988)

More like Cinema Paradeez nuts!

Nah, here's the actual thing:

Ok, so I was procrastinating on this one. Not because I was dreading it or anything, I just had a feeling it was going to be just a good, watchable movie with nothing that was going to really excite me. My prediction was pretty spot on, which is obviously not a bad thing at all, it is good and watchable, that's just not enough to make me eager to see something you know?

I wasn't intending to watch the near 3 hour director's cut but I forgot to check which version I downloaded until like an hour into the film lol. This cut is certainly too long but not so much that you'd cut a whole hour out like a lot of versions I came across (though I'm seeing google list it at 2h35 which would probably be close to ideal). The first two chapters are paced perfectly well, would absolutely not touch those but you just don't need a full hour after Toto comes home. All the scenes in this section are good in their own right but a lot of it isn't necessary imo.

I guess I should actually talk about the film itself to some extent (I'm clearly padding this lol). Yeah, again its basically dead on what I expected: A cute, watchable film with no real standout elements but a good enough time nonetheless. It's tough to write about it when almost every element of the filmmaking I would only describe as "fine" but y'know, fine is fine. Actually I guess the music is probably the strongest element. It's quite lovely and juuust shy of being too much and there are a handful of good, heartwarming scenes. Overall its a hair more enjoyable than I expected. I like it.

Ok all done now <3 List being submitted shortly!

[SpelingError]

You all have three days left to finish this HoF. Here's where everyone stands as of now:

BooBooKittyFock (5/12)
edarsenal (10/12)
jiraffejustin (8/12)
rauldc14 (11/12)
seanc (10/12) (he already sent his ballot as he's already seen Cinema Paradiso and The Passion of Joan of Arc, but does he still have to write the remaining two reviews or is he good?)
Siddon (9/12)
Wyldesyde19 (8/12)

Also, do you guys think we should add a week for BooBoo to give them extra time to finish?

[Wyldesyde19]

Extra time please. I’m hitting Wizard of Oz and Cinema Paradiso to day, and tower is next, but The mini series might have to wait until the end of this week since it’s 3 hours iirc.

[SpelingError]

Okay, I'll extend the deadline till December 15th then :)

[jiraffejustin]

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Cinema Paradiso (Giuseppe Tornatore, 1988)

More like Cinema Paradeez nuts!

nice

[rauldc14]

The Wizard of Oz

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Obviously not only one of my favorite films but one of my most watched films too. Just love how it's such a stepping stone and paved the way for what good cinema was supposed to be. The story is excellent, it's a super imaginative film. The music is great, particularly has some of the greatest songs in any musical in my opinion. The performances fit really well and each and every character feels quite memorable. The color is truly impressive. When I think of a film with no flaw this is definitely one of the few that I am able to think of.

5

[Wyldesyde19]

Will have a review of Cinema Paradiso up later tonight.

May I get a link to Tower?

[rauldc14]

Will have a review of Cinema Paradiso up later tonight.

May I get a link to Tower?

In my DVD cabinet.

[Citizen Rules]

Will have a review of Cinema Paradiso up later tonight.

May I get a link to Tower?I got it, check your PM

[Wyldesyde19]

I got it, check your PM

Thank you, sir. You’re a gentleman and scholar.

[Citizen Rules]

Thank you, sir. You’re a gentleman and scholar.Well, one out of two ain't bad:p

[Wyldesyde19]

Cinema Paradiso


Movie are an escape for many of us. They offer a brief respite from our daily lives. At any time, we can experience anything we wish, depending on what we want to watch.

Tornatore shows us post war Italy during a time where movies were indeed an escape from the reality of a uncertain time.

Told through the eyes of a young boy who grows before us, he uses movies as an escape, much like we do. But there’s a passion there as well. One he learns to appreciate from his father figure, Alfredo, who was a projectionist who taught him much about movies, and life, and often used movies as a teaching tool.

The problem is, Tornatore doesn’t allow us to really identify with anyone, or even allows us to settle into the movie. He glides from scene to scene without letting us appreciate the moment. For example, in one scene the cinema burns down. Alfredo is injured. That alone should have been given some screen time to allow us to understand the impact of the tragedy. Instead, it is rebuilt in the very next scene. And we see Alfredo, although still clearly injured, having already adapted to his situation.

Since we aren’t given ample time to properly appreciate the scenes, I found myself unable to appreciate the film itself. It kept itself too distant by moving through the scenes too fast, not allowing us to properly process them.

That’s not to say there aren’t any good scenes. At times, I was moved. But those were fleeting, as Tornatore moves on to the next scene.

I wonder if the directors cut fixes this problem?

Anyways, it’s a miss, and I much prefer Malena from 2000, as it seemed more focused.

[Wyldesyde19]

Watching Tower tonight, but just wanted to say going through all of the reviews….Daisies was fun and great and full of more energy than I expected. It’s a shame it didn’t connect with most, but it was exactly the type of film I sign up for when I participate in these.

[SpelingError]

Watching Tower tonight, but just wanted to say going through all of the reviews….Daisies was fun and great and full of more energy than I expected. It’s a shame it didn’t connect with most, but it was exactly the type of film I sign up for when I participate in these.

I had a couple reservations with Daisies, but I still enjoyed the film quite a bit. Like my nomination, I expected for it to receive mixed reactions, but strange and unique films like Daisies are one of the reasons I enjoy participating in these Halls.

[Wyldesyde19]

I had a couple reservations with Daisies, but I still enjoyed the film quite a bit. Like my nomination, I expected for it to receive mixed reactions, but strange and unique films like Daisies are one of the reasons I enjoy participating in these Halls.
If Jinn was still around, he’d have a word with you 😜

I don’t know if it’s a new favorite, but I enjoyed the allegory and message

[Wyldesyde19]

Also, one film I do want to highlight from the Czech New Wave movement is Witchhammer. It’s better in my opinion.

[SpelingError]

If Jinn was still around, he’d have a word with you 😜

I don’t know if it’s a new favorite, but I enjoyed the allegory and message

Was Jinn a fan of Daisies?

I wouldn't call it a favorite either, but I still thought it was pretty good.

[Wyldesyde19]

Was Jinn a fan of Daisies?

I wouldn't call it a favorite either, but I still thought it was pretty good.
He was yeah, he had mentioned it during there foreign film countdown as a film from the Czech New Wave he had considered. I know Minio is as well. It was in his recent top 300.

[jiraffejustin]

Angel-A

Being artsy (in any way) and being sentimental is a dangerous thing, especially when you have a message about loving yourself, and not just loving yourself, but also actively attempting to better yourself. Cynicism and nastiness is the much preferred style of cinema, because it's easy to find other people to hate and blame for society's failings. But this film here pretty openly wears its heart on its sleeve and goes for a French New Wave thing that ueno mentioned, that immediately sets apart from the rest of the films in this hof. Does it make it better than the rest of the films in this hof? No, but sometimes it's not productive to judge yourself based on your competition. It's sentimental, sure, but I am okay with a little bit of heartwarmth every now and then.

[jiraffejustin]

Not Quite Hollywood

I am guessing this movie is made for people who don't plan on watching any of the films actually discussed. People unlike me. While I haven't made my way around to many of them yet, I've had my eyes on several of them for a good minute now. But this documentary didn't really seem to capture any magic. Does the magic of Ozploitation actually exist? I am hoping so, but if it does, this documentary didn't really do a great job of shining a bright light on it. Maybe I am just not keen on behind-the-scenes stuff, or maybe just not behind-the-scenes stuff of stuff I haven't seen the actual scenes of. I don't want to know how the hot dog was made before I eat it, but that's the sort of thing that comes with context. If I would have seen a bunch of these films beforehand, maybe I'd be feeling differently. But, I also think part of the purpose of this film is to shine a light on this wacky wave of films for a broader audience, which is admirable. However, it fails, at least to me, because outside of Patrick, I don't want to see any of these films more now than I did before I watched. I'm also bummed out about being spoiled on the Patrick scene, which I guess could be (in)famous enough that maybe I should have known about it. But it also just makes me think that even with shining the light on these films, maybe they don't really care if you watch them or not. This could just all be a matter of taking documentaries about film, but I don't usually go out of my way to watch documentaries about films or filmmaking. I'd rather just watch the films.

[Citizen Rules]

….Daisies was fun and great and full of more energy than I expected. It’s a shame it didn’t connect with most, but it was exactly the type of film I sign up for when I participate in these.I surprised myself by actually really enjoying Daisies. I thought it was a good nom for this HoF which I said in my review (at least I think I said that):p

[ueno_station54]

Lmao, my picks never do well but they always seem to get the most discussion at least. That might not be the case next HoF as I think I'm going with something a lot more conventional (will still do poorly).

[SpelingError]

You all have one week left to finish this thread. Here's where everyone stands as of now:

BooBooKittyFock (5/12)
edarsenal (10/12)
jiraffejustin (10/12)
seanc (10/12)
Siddon (9/12)
Wyldesyde19 (9/12)

The deadline to finish this is December 15th. I don't plan on extending the deadline.

[jiraffejustin]

Lmao, my picks never do well but they always seem to get the most discussion at least. That might not be the case next HoF as I think I'm going with something a lot more conventional (will still do poorly).

A lot more conventional than Daisies and Themroc still isn't very conventional.

I am thinking I might add some genre to the next hof I am in. Not Quite Hollywood has at least inspired me in that way.

[SpelingError]

Who wants to host the next HoF, btw?

[edarsenal]

Who wants to host the next HoF, btw?

It's been a while since I have, so if no one else jumps in, I just might

[edarsenal]

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Daisies (1966)

Okay, let me take a shot at this.

The world is messed up.
Two girls decide, since it's messed up, they'll be messed up.
In contradiction of Society and How You're Supposed To Act, they act out. Foolishly. Mockingly. At the core of Society: sharing a meal.
Which seems to be a springing board they continually bounce off of, repeatedly.

Why?

To confirm their existence, and when ignored, they finally decide to be happy.
And the world continues to be messed up.


Is that right? Am I close?

I'm not sure.
But that's okay because whatever it is, or was, beyond acting out against the restrictions placed upon them; I just saw children making noise so that they are noticed, and I would rather walk away than acknowledge the annoyance button they seemed to jump up and down on with me.

So, I do get it. The refusal to be quiet, be still, and act pretty and to let loose and rail against it.
Fight the Good fight, my dears, and good luck with that but, to quote a great and wise man, W.C. Fields, "Go away, kid, ya bother me."

[Citizen Rules]

It's been a while since I have, so if no one else jumps in, I just mightI was hoping you might do it🙂

[rauldc14]

It's been a while since I have, so if no one else jumps in, I just might

That'd be cool.

[edarsenal]

thanks, guys. This year was pretty hectic for me to do any hosting but I should be able to do the next General HoF

[SpelingError]

I'm excited to have ed host the next one. Will it go up right after this one ends or after the Christmas holidays?

[edarsenal]

probably the second week of January. We usually try to keep the holidays clear unless it's a Christmas HoF like CR did previously.

[SpelingError]

Sounds good to me :up:

[Wyldesyde19]

Tower


On August 1st, 1966, A disturbed man climbed atop the clock tower in Texas University campus and preceded to open fire on anyone that moved. He terrorized the campus for 90 minutes before he was finally shot to death by two police officers.


This documentary tells the tale, through rotoscope animation and archived footage, as well as eye witness accounts.

Why follows is a emotional roller coaster as we relive those 90 minutes of terror with the survivors. It isn’t an easy journey. It’s not meant to be.
What’s refreshing about this one is it doesn’t make any judgement on the shooter, Whitman, and doesn’t go into his possible motives. Instead, it sticks with the narrative of how many felt during that time, and how they coped afterward. By sticking to the witnesses accounts, it avoid reaching any conclusions on the incident.
Instead we get tales of heroism, bravery, and survival. Dread. Fear. It’s all there. And it’s almost like I was there too, as I found myself almost a witness to these events as well. So much so I could see myself also hiding behind cover.

I tested up a little. It’s almost impossible not to.

[Wyldesyde19]

Can I get a link to the And then There Were None mini series?
Thank you

[rauldc14]

I sent you where I saw it

[Citizen Rules]

Surprised Ed didn't like Daises...I had him pegged as a fan. Poor Daises it ain't too well loved:D

[edarsenal]

Surprised Ed didn't like Daises...I had him pegged as a fan. Poor Daises it ain't too well loved:D

I was expecting to as well figuring a little nonsense would be fun, but it was not to be

[rauldc14]

I wasnt surprised. It sucks and he has good taste in film :)

[Citizen Rules]

A quick head count for Daisies fans: Wylde, ueno, CR, Allaby all really liked it. While Phoenix, Speling, JJ appreciated it. Can it manage to survive the dreaded last place???

[SpelingError]

A quick head count for Daisies fans: Wylde, ueno, CR, Allaby all really liked it. While Phoenix, Speling, JJ appreciated it. Can it manage to survive the dreaded last place???

So far, four films are candidates for being in last place as they have a difference of a few points.

[SpelingError]

Also, I have a question for those who didn't like Daisies: How would you guys compare it against Themroc (provided you were in the last HoF)? Would you guys say that Daisies is an improvement, about on the same level of quality, or worse?

[Citizen Rules]

Also, I have a question for those who didn't like Daisies: How would you guys compare it against Themroc (provided you were in the last HoF)? Would you guys say that Daisies is an improvement, about on the same level of quality, or worse?I enjoyed Daisies much more than Themroc...To be fair to Themroc it did achieve what it was trying to do and that style of French commentary/satire comedy doesn't work well for me...but still I would not call Themroc a bad movie, just a movie that wasn't for me.

[edarsenal]

I wasnt surprised. It sucks and he has good taste in film :)

https://c.tenor.com/VS8Zw8RDktQAAAAC/nodding-ron.gif

[SpelingError]

You all have five days to finish this thread. Here's where everyone stands as of now:

BooBooKittyFock (5/12)
edarsenal (11/12)
jiraffejustin (10/12)
seanc (10/12)
Siddon (9/12)
Wyldesyde19 (10/12)

As a reminder, I won't extend the deadline again.

[ueno_station54]

I would have assumed Themroc would be more liked since it has a clear, straightforward narrative.

[SpelingError]

I would have assumed Themroc would be more liked since it has a clear, straightforward narrative.

I was under the impression that Daisies would receive better reviews here since it's more well-known and widely considered to be a classic of the Czech new wave.

[Citizen Rules]

I would have assumed Themroc would be more liked since it has a clear, straightforward narrative.With Daisies you have 7 members that liked it, (8 counting BooBoo who won't finish). I can't remember anybody really liking Themroc, but I don't think it got as much hate either? Don't remember really.

[rauldc14]

They were about the same. 1/2 star movies.

[edarsenal]

Going back to my review of Themroc, it does seem like I had a curiosity as to where it was all going as opposed to a WHEN with Daisies. Though, considering my annoyance, I did let out a YAY with its ending and the chandelier. So, there's that.

And in a broader spectrum of seeing films, I would never choose to on my own, on so many varying genres they do hold to that for everything good, wrong, and WTF that I consider as one of the many reasons I continue as a participant in these HoFs.

[ueno_station54]

Going through a small list of potential HoF nominations I threw together 2022 should be a lot easier for y'all in terms of the stuff I'm picking for these. Stuff that'll land in the 2-2.5 star range instead of half a star.

[SpelingError]

For what it's worth, I gave Themroc a 2.5/5 and Daisies a 3.5/5, so I consider Daisies to be an improvement.

[edarsenal]

I would have assumed Themroc would be more liked since it has a clear, straightforward narrative.

Perhaps, but then a meandering one can make for a greater payoff in the end and it all comes down, for me, in the experience aka The Ride Itself.
So even a "Wait? What?" experience can do wonders and again, it comes down to any given audience's final appreciation/frustration/intrigue/confusion.

[Wyldesyde19]

Going through a small list of potential HoF nominations I threw together 2022 should be a lot easier for y'all in terms of the stuff I'm picking for these. Stuff that'll land in the 2-2.5 star range instead of half a star.

I like nominations like Daisies. That’s exactly what the purpose of the HOF is IMO. It was fun, clever, and, yes, artistic. The chaotic and silly structure was the point.

[rauldc14]

Might wait to see noms before joining next time. Obviously I'll probably join.

[ueno_station54]

I like nominations like Daisies. That’s exactly what the purpose of the HOF is IMO. It was fun, clever, and, yes, artistic. The chaotic and silly structure was the point.


Ok 2023 I'll pick stuff that makes Daisies look like Jaws.

[seanc]

In the true spirit of the hall of fame for the next one I will be nominating Wally Pipp

[rauldc14]

Sonic the Hedgehog for me

[ueno_station54]

I was under the impression that Daisies would receive better reviews here since it's more well-known and widely considered to be a classic of the Czech new wave.
I sure hope the people that did like the film didn't just like it because its perceived as a classic. Giving films bonus points for being "important" or "influential" or whatever is lame af and disingenuous.

[seanc]

I sure hope the people that did like the film didn't just like it because its perceived as a classic. Giving films bonus points for being "important" or "influential" or whatever is lame af and disingenuous.

How about bonus points for being strange or different?

Annoying af lmao

[ueno_station54]

How about bonus points for being strange or different?

Annoying af lmao
You absolutely can give something bonus points for that since those are things that are qualities of the film. Something becoming a classic has nothing to do with the film itself.

[Allaby]

I thought Daisies was great. Themroc was really bad, in my opinion. For the next hall I’m recommending Manos the Hands of Fate. 😉

[Citizen Rules]

In the true spirit of the hall of fame for the next one I will be nominating Wally PippWally Pipp? The baseball player from the early 20th century:eek: He's probably more likely to finish and HoF than Neiba:p

[SpelingError]

I sure hope the people that did like the film didn't just like it because its perceived as a classic. Giving films bonus points for being "important" or "influential" or whatever is lame af and disingenuous.
Yeah, agreed. What I mean though is that, if someone is aware of its reputation, it could get them to wonder "Hm, maybe there's something in there I missed", provided they weren't sure what to make of it. With Themroc, on the other hand, I don't believe it has any such reputation, so it could be easier for someone to put less thought into rating/reviewing it.

For what it's worth, I thought the film was pretty good. If it wasn't well known, I wouldn't have rated it any less.

[seanc]

You absolutely can give something bonus points for that since those are things that are qualities of the film. Something becoming a classic has nothing to do with the film itself.

You don’t think classic has a certain connotation of style?

Technically I could say the same about the word different. I spent the 80’s watching Spielberg and stupid comedies. The first time I watched Kane it felt very different, despite being classic.

[seanc]

Wally Pipp? The baseball player from the early 20th century:eek: He's probably more likely to finish and HoF than Neiba:p

Well done

[Citizen Rules]

I sure hope the people that did like the film didn't just like it because its perceived as a classic. Giving films bonus points for being "important" or "influential" or whatever is lame af and disingenuous.If that was the case for me, I'd have Marienbad at the top of my list. Nah, I just vote for what I like or think is cool or whatever.

[Citizen Rules]

It's an Ed Wood jr. nom for me next time:cool:

[ueno_station54]

You don’t think classic has a certain connotation of style?

Technically I could say the same about the word different. I spent the 80’s watching Spielberg and stupid comedies. The first time I watched Kane it felt very different, despite being classic.
A film being different is something the filmmaker has control over. The filmmaker has no control over their film being considered a classic.

[seanc]

A film being different is something the filmmaker has control over. The filmmaker has no control over their film being considered a classic.

You don’t think directors set out to make prestige pictures?

[ueno_station54]

You don’t think directors set out to make prestige pictures?
Step Brothers is a classic, you think they were trying to make a "prestige picture" with that one?

[seanc]

Step Brothers is a classic, you think they were trying to make a "prestige picture" with that one?

You think people are giving Step Brothers bonus points for being a classic?

For the record I know it’s annoying to answer a question with a question so my other response is: No it isn’t a classic.

[ueno_station54]

You think people are giving Step Brothers bonus points for being a classic?

For the record I know it’s annoying to answer a question with a question so my other response is: No it isn’t a classic.
Ok, it might be a bit too new for that rn but one day I think it may. I wouldn't for a second argue Chitylova was ever trying to make a prestige film but Daisies still has classic status. Same with It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World or Jaws or El Topo or whatever else. Classic is not a stylistic choice.

[seanc]

Ok, it might be a bit too new for that rn but one day I think it may. I wouldn't for a second argue Chitylova was ever trying to make a prestige film but Daisies still has classic status. Same with It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World or Jaws or El Topo or whatever else. Classic is not a stylistic choice.

I think it is in the way you used it but that really misses the point anyway.

I think everyone brings their own sensibilities to movies, and everything they engage with for that matter. So, to my mind, giving classics the benefit of the doubt isn’t inherently different than giving cult movies the benefit of the doubt.

What made me engage you n your post is the fact that if I had to pick one person in this hall that I thought was engaging in the movies in a preconceived superiority. It would be you.

[Citizen Rules]

Ueno (or anyone who wants to reply)

All I know is: in past HoFs I've nominated older 1930s-1950s movies that might be considered 'classics' and they don't do all that well. I really don't think they got a bump in the voting ballots because of their classic status.

Most people are more familiar with the style of acting & film making from the last several decades so recent bias plays a part too...but I think all of us vote fairly and for the films we like the best, or we think are more deserving.

[PHOENIX74]

I'm curious about Themroc now. I might regret that, considering most opinions on this thread - but I'll probably seek it out and watch it.

[Siddon]

I need a link for The Celebration with accurate subs.

[ueno_station54]

Ueno (or anyone who wants to reply)

All I know is: in past HoFs I've nominated older 1930s-1950s movies that might be considered 'classics' and they don't do all that well. I really don't think they got a bump in the voting ballots because of their classic status.

Most people are more familiar with the style of acting & film making from the last several decades so recent bias plays a part too...but I think all of us vote fairly and for the films we like the best, or we think are more deserving.
Am happy to hear this :)

[ueno_station54]

I think everyone brings their own sensibilities to movies, and everything they engage with for that matter. So, to my mind, giving classics the benefit of the doubt isn’t inherently different than giving cult movies the benefit of the doubt.

Not particularly keen on people giving cult movies the benefit of the doubt either tbh.Like, I dig The Room as much as the next gal but it ain't a 10 lmao (I think I gave it a 7).

What made me engage you n your post is the fact that if I had to pick one person in this hall that I thought was engaging in the movies in a preconceived superiority. It would be you.

Oh I'm no Mr. Minio. I'm fully aware a lot of films I like are no more than cinematic key jangling but that's just my honest taste lol. Obviously everyone has their biases but I always rate things based on good ol' gut feeling.

[rauldc14]

Obviously Booboo won't finish but hopefully everyone else is.

[SpelingError]

I need a link for The Celebration with accurate subs.

Sent!

[Citizen Rules]

Obviously Booboo won't finish but hopefully everyone else is. He dropped out of the 12th HoF, so it's not looking good for him to finish.

[Siddon]

I think I'm going to do a double review..it's been a while but I definitely have some stuff to say.

[Wyldesyde19]

Internet is giving me a lot of problems today. Can’t stream anything, atm. Going to watch Wizard of Oz today, and then get to the mini series.

[Siddon]

Last Year at Marienbad(1961) and The Celebration(1998)

Interesting to watch two films, thirty years apart that are roughly about the same thing (a party) and take very different approaches to the story.

In the Celebration the film is about a father and a son, the son accuses the father of raping him as a child and driving his sister to suicide. In Last Year at Marienbad it's the story of a man who believes his lover has returned to him.

Marienbad has a dreamlike quality to it, every shot is expertly framed. You can interpret the film as a dream or walking through a museum and noting the art. The estate is decadent, the people feel barely human you can't really get a grasp of the personality of anyone...they are cyphers.

In the Celebration you know everyone, and you see the ugliness of everyone. People just walk around and tell you what you need to know about them. Mental health issues, insecurities racial hangups all just on display. You are specifically told what to feel about everyone. The roles of the characters are regimented everything that happens in the story you know exactly what is going on.

Ironically enough Vinterberg shoots the film with a handycam and still tries to make all of these fancy shots. It fails horribly, Dogme95 films believe in the idea that Hollywood and over production is bad...yet the film has a huge cast, takes place in a giant, and you can't make out a damn thing half the time your watching it.

Resnais from the French New Wave took an opposite approach where he doesn't explain a damn thing to you. But every shot is just mesmerizing he's giving a mood and touching on your emotions. While with Celebration it's sex, violence, drama...things happen that don't really happen in the real world but because it's shot like a home movie we the audience are I suppose just supposed to forgive it.

I liked Festen the first time I saw it...I was a teenager at the time and the gossip, sex, and violence was awesome. But now when I revisit it a shadow is cast on the film. This movement had ideals and yet knowing what the director became it's sadder to me. Vinterberg ended up making really good looking movies after this...films that would be dull, he moved on and grew up...so I think in a lot of ways this film is just a reminder of an artists early flawed works.

Resnais on the other hand I look back at this and feel like I watched a masterpiece, I had an emotional connection to the work as opposed to the analytical one from Festen.

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[Siddon]

It doesn't! Not anywhere! It looks like the made-for-TV film that it is. Everything just looks so drab. It looks like it was shot on a potato, especially in low light situations which is a lot of the film. Pretty much all the design elements are crap.



A kind of fun idea, middle-of-the-road script, horrendous acting but the thing that really elevates it is the aesthetic. It has the feel of one of those 90s skate tapes at points with the equipment its shot on and I am so here for that. Uhh, yeah just that and some really creative shots and angles. Everything else is whatever but I got what I needed out of just the camerawork and the camera itself. Dug it.




I hate to call someone out but did you watch my nomination or just the trailer? Festen wasn't even in focus and yet And There Was None which has very good production values was shot on a potato?

[Wyldesyde19]

Ok, internet seems like it’s mostly fine now.

Going to finish this out.

[Wyldesyde19]

So much for that. Internet isn’t working great still, and I can’t get an answer from our provider. Although it could be weather related idk. It is pretty windy out there. My wifi keeps dropping out, and I can’t stream anything on Tubi, Hulu or Prime (tested them earlier). Hoping it clears up by tomorrow.

Was hoping to hit the first episode on ATtWN, maybe even the second before switching to Wizard of Oz, but it keeps stopping so Oz it is. (I own the dvd, so no problems there)

[ueno_station54]

I hate to call someone out but did you watch my nomination or just the trailer? Festen wasn't even in focus and yet And There Was None which has very good production values was shot on a potato?
oh so it was just the shots in the trailer that were shot on a potato? my bad.

[rauldc14]

Shot on a potato. What a image.

[Allaby]

I would actually like to see a movie shot on a potato. That would be interesting.

[jiraffejustin]

I would like to see a potato shot in a movie

[SpelingError]

I would like to see someone literally shoot a movie with a gun while it's balancing on top of a potato.

[Citizen Rules]

All masterpieces are potato like in nature.

[seanc]

I’m afraid to engage again, but what does shot on a potato mean?

[SpelingError]

I’m afraid to engage again, but what does shot on a potato mean?
It's an expression to describe something that has poor camera quality.

[seanc]

It's an expression to describe something that has poor camera quality.

Thanks, that actually came across in context but I can’t believe I have never come across the expression before.

[edarsenal]

Ok 2023 I'll pick stuff that makes Daisies look like Jaws.

In the true spirit of the hall of fame for the next one I will be nominating Wally Pipp

I thought Daisies was great. Themroc was really bad, in my opinion. For the next hall I’m recommending Manos the Hands of Fate. 😉

Sonic the Hedgehog for me

It's an Ed Wood jr. nom for me next time:cool:

This is gonna be the BEST HoF EVER!!!

;)

[Wyldesyde19]

Hmmm. Garbage Pail Kids the movie or Howard the Duck? 🤔

Yeah, I’ve watched both. Don’t judge me

[edarsenal]

I would like to see a potato shot in a movie

Ta daaaa

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From what I've heard it's a kind of Agatha Christie crime film shot in a Brian DePalma style.

Of course, they haven't begun shooting and this is merely a concept/design photo. It appears they're still looking for funding but I have heard that both Heinz and Hunts have officially helped with some of the backings.

[edarsenal]

Hmmm. Garbage Pail Kids the movie or Howard the Duck? 🤔

Yeah, I’ve watched both. Don’t judge me

https://c.tenor.com/Vg52zSJcn5gAAAAC/judge-you.gif


;)

[edarsenal]

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Giving a Toast can, and will, be a bit of an awkward tightrope walk no matter what Miss Manners says

Festen aka The Celebration (1998)

Opening with a Dogme 95 Certificate that reminded me of similar certificates in very early films in the thirties and thereabouts, I experienced this claustrophobic, slightly out-of-focus story of a dysfunctional family from Hell of cruel f@ckers and the messed up reasons for their abhorrent behavior.

This is no Hollywood, Americanized social commentary where everyone sits in therapy or orchestrates a similar setting for all to share emotions, tears, and hugs. F@ck that.
This is a family get-together in Germany for the father's sixtieth birthday and one sibling's suicide the previous year. Sh#t gets exposed to the light of day and, people react in various amounts of denial, refusal to acknowledge, or downright violence.

A dark, complicated, and difficult watch that I have to admit kept me very engaged as it all erupted and the darkness beneath the rich veneer tore itself to the surface.
If not for it being a difficult watch, I could easily see this again though it would not be by my own doing.
I'm not a fan of handheld filming though I admit it can fit as a format, and it does, very much, here. Those intimate shots that appear as home movie quality really capture the awkward and dangerously brewing moments as everyone attempts to politely discuss whether the soup is Lobster, Salmon, or possibly Tomato. Instead of the sh#t-storm that rages from a suppressed obscenity that transpired decades previously.
The fact that this WASN'T a "let's talk about how we feel" but a visceral gut-reaction of a more realistic, authentic outrage boiling over the polite observations of such a setting gave a more resounding gravitas to all of it. One that reverberates a day after viewing it and will most likely for some time after.

[Siddon]

Hmmm. Garbage Pail Kids the movie or Howard the Duck? 🤔

Yeah, I’ve watched both. Don’t judge me


I've narrowed down my picks to three choices...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gofUwrzVzWs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WtkWZyPehM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlP1BZqyS-E

[SpelingError]

You all have three days to finish this thread. Here's where everyone stands as of now:

jiraffejustin (10/12)
seanc (10/12)
Siddon (11/12)
Wyldesyde19 (10/12)

*BooBoo probably won't finish this HoF at this point, so I didn't mention him/her.

[edarsenal]

You all have three days to finish this thread. Here's where everyone stands as of now:

jiraffejustin (10/12)
seanc (10/12)
Siddon (11/12)
Wyldesyde19 (10/12)

*BooBoo probably won't finish this HoF at this point, so I didn't mention him/her.
Is it right that I feel a little sad NOT to be on the list of mentions anymore?

[SpelingError]

Is it right that I feel a little sad NOT to be on the list of mentions anymore?

To cheer you up, I had Yoda delete all your reviews in this thread. That way, you have to start this HoF all over again.

[Wyldesyde19]

The Wizard of Oz


There’s something so charming about this film. The music, the dialogue, the characters. Seeing it for a second time, I paid more attention to the scenes.
Switching from sepia tone to color. The little actions by each character. Like Dorothy trying to kick open the door to the storm shelter. The Cowardly Lion and the way he tries to bully them with his fists. “Put ‘em up!”


The songs are the most memorable part, as well as they’re catchy but so much in an annoying way. And of course…there is Garland.
Judy. Garland. Fresh faced and innocent looking, she embodies Dorothy. She is Dorothy. Every little moment she is on screen we can’t help but root for her. It’s a shame Garland never lived this part down, and never did find that rainbow in real life. She would die at age 47 to an accidental overdose. It was an unhappy life, as we have been told.

But even so, we’ll always have Dorothy. And in this role, Garland will live on.

[jiraffejustin]

I just finished episode one of Ten Little.. And Then There Were None.... So far it has been pretty boring and feels very run of the mill. There doesn't seem to be much in the way of subtlety. The music is just over everything and as obvious as possible. Most of what ueno_station54 said about the whole thing is ringing true for me in the first episode. I am trooper, so I will keep going, but if it was a choice left to me, I would not. There aren't any interesting subplots or characters or visual tricks or anything to stand out in the modern tv landscape. Maybe they will do stuff around the island in later episodes where we can get some cool landscape shots or something, but the sets are pretty uninspired so far. I don't mean to be so negative, but comparing this to the rest of the field is no comparison. Every film I've watched for this hall of fame has given me something interesting, so far, this has not.

And I swear every time they say soldiers, I know how the original actually went and it's more than a little distracting to be thinking about that instead.. of well, you know, anything else.

[jiraffejustin]

Two episodes down... I can do this.

[edarsenal]

To cheer you up, I had Yoda delete all your reviews in this thread. That way, you have to start this HoF all over again.
SWEET

[ueno_station54]

Two episodes down... I can do this.
o7

[SpelingError]

You all have two days left to finish this HoF.

[edarsenal]

GIT A MOVE ON YA SLACKERS!!!
https://media3.giphy.com/media/l0ErD3ZBW6vQgYCgE/giphy.gif


hee hee

[Wyldesyde19]

Internet is fixed. Going to binge all three episodes the next few days.

[rauldc14]

Interesting to see what you think of it Wylde

[SpelingError]

Reactions to And Then There Were None have been more love-it-or-hate-it (well, maybe "like" instead of "love") than I expected they would be at the start of this thread.

[ueno_station54]

Reactions to And Then There Were None have been more love-it-or-hate-it (well, maybe "like" instead of "love") than I expected they would be at the start of this thread.
My only chance of not getting another last place finish lmao.

[SpelingError]

My only chance of not getting another last place finish lmao.

So far, four films are candidates for being in last place.

[Wyldesyde19]

Ok. Starting up the mini series. 👍

[Wyldesyde19]

Part one down.

Odd, I am familiar with the original film, but I thought it was a war film and now it’s obvious I am confusing and mixing up two different films. No idea which film I confused it with, but it’s obvious to me I haven’t seen the original after all.


Too many films mixing around in my head that I’ve seen.

[SpelingError]

You all have one day left to finish this thread. After that, this forum will self-destruct.

jiraffejustin (10/12)
seanc (10/12)
Siddon (11/12)
Wyldesyde19 (11/12)

[Wyldesyde19]

I have one episode left. Will hit it tonight

[SpelingError]

jiraffejustin, seanc, and Siddon, will you guys be able to finish this by tomorrow? Just making sure.

[jiraffejustin]

Yeah, I just have Tower to watch tonight.

[Citizen Rules]

jiraffejustin, seanc, and Siddon, will you guys be able to finish this by tomorrow? Just making sure.Didn't Sean already turn in his voting list? It says he did on the 2nd post.

[SpelingError]

Didn't Sean already turn in his voting list? It says he did on the 2nd post.

Yes, but he still has two reviews left.

[jiraffejustin]

I've finished up. I'll finish up my writing tomorrow. I'll go ahead and send my votes in.

[Wyldesyde19]

Finished as well. Will do my write up and send in my votes tomorrow.

[SpelingError]

I just realized that I'm going to have to count the votes up all over again since Cinema Paradiso isn't in this Hall anymore.

:mad:

[rauldc14]

Yes, but he still has two reviews left.

I know it's fairly common and usually good to write a review for each but I know he watched the two pretty recently before this. Hopefully his ballot is still accepted, he's not one to rig the system.

[Citizen Rules]

I know it's fairly common and usually good to write a review for each but I know he watched the two pretty recently before this. Hopefully his ballot is still accepted, he's not one to rig the system.I have to second what Raul said.

In past HoFs people have finished and sent in their list without writing all the reviews, that's always been allowed. In the 25th HoF which I hosted Edarsenal was short one review but finished on time and sent in his list, so no problem.

Sean most likely doesn't know he has to do two more reviews and believes he's finish because already and he might not log in before the deadline. It's up to you, but Sean is rock solid in HoFs and I hope you count his voting list.

[seanc]

I watched Cinema Paradiso for the last mofo list. I don’t have anything to add that hasn’t been said. I enjoyed it but it’s definitely not something I loved or will rush to see again. Has a feel that certainly appeals to movie folk and I was down for that.

I watched Passion about a year ago. The greatness is in the emotion and that central performance. I do think the performance is great and makes it an important film. I don’t feel the emotion though. I called it a dialogue driven movie that has no dialogue, which is tough for me. Long stretches at the trial while the camera is showing people debate without words. For me that made it just a fair watch. I get the love and importance but don’t share the enthusiasm most have for it.

[seanc]

Sorry if I caused any trouble

[SpelingError]

Apologies then, I was under the impression that everyone has to write a review for each film. sean should be fine then.

[SpelingError]

You guys have till the end of today to finish this HoF.

Siddon (11/12)
Wyldesyde19 (11/12)

[Citizen Rules]

Apologies then, I was under the impression that everyone has to write a review for each film. sean should be fine then.It usually is a stated rule, but up to the host of course on how to handle it.

[Wyldesyde19]

And Then There Were None

Imagine my surprise with this mini series, ,having mixed it up with some war film and finding out it’s a mystery film. That would be the first of my surprises.

The first is how much I enjoyed it. It’s wonderfully acted, and the suspense is kept to Boiling point, threatening to overflow but never overplaying its hand. It keeps us guessing the entire time, and leaves us wondering which of them is committing the murders. At 3 hour episodes, it actually breezed by quicker then most movies.

I wouldn’t want mini series to be picked for these, however, as I don’t view them as the same as movies. Although I do acknowledge that there have been some great ones over the years. Lonesome Dove for example. But the HOF is meant for movies. That was always my impression, anyways. Regardless, I don’t regret having to watch this.

[SpelingError]

stares at Siddon ominously

[Siddon]

maybe you should @ me again


perhaps I'll wait untill 11:59 out of pure spite

[Wyldesyde19]

*stares at Siddon impatiently*

[Siddon]

<yawn> getting a little sleepy I think I'll take a nap

[Citizen Rules]

~stares at Siddon sleeping~

[Siddon]

Little Bear could use a walk when I wake up...I'll likely do that next

[SpelingError]

The deadline for Siddon to finish is 5 seconds after he reads this post. Let's hope he's a fast typer.

[Siddon]

https://www.silverpetticoatreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/And-Then-There-Were-None-BBC.jpg

And Then There Were None (2015)

Adapting literative works is often times difficult, some works get multiple adaptations and inspirations before the right one is made. It's ironic because Agatha Christie felt this was her best constructed story...she wanted to kill 10 people without it being ridiculous or the murderer obvious so we got this.

In film versions the cast of actors tend to have heroes, Vera and Lombard tend to be played as protagonists and we get the happy ending often. The killer tends to be fairly obvious because time and energy isn't put in developing all ten characters. By running almost three hours we get to know the people who are on the Island and the justification for their murders.

The mini-series is shot with a basic contrast...the Island is home is dark and dreamlike a purgatory of sorts it's vast and empty almost like a waiting room for death. But the filmmaker makes sure to switch up the contrast with flashbacks...we get Africa, Prison cellars, gallows, court houses, beaches etc and all are bright and vibrant and full of life...as opposed to the Island which is just death.

Part of what I like about these murderers is that you can see how they were all able to get away with their crimes thanks to their position in society. The variety in which the original crimes were unfolded was particularly enjoyable to me. You have almost a seven deadly sin aspect to the characters...


Marston - Sloth - a playboy who failed to take responsibility for learning to drive kills two children.
Mrs. Brent - Pride - a spinster who feels like her maid is beneath her so she takes away her livelihood and leads to her suicide.
McArthur - Envy - sent out his wife's lover to die in the field of battle during WWI
Vera - Lust - A woman who wants a husband but realizes she can't have him unless her war dies
Armstrong - Gluttony - a man who's love of drink caused a patient to die in his care.
William Blore - Wrath - a policeman who abuses his power and kills a relatively minor offender
The Rodgers - Greed - A pair of servants who couldn't wait for their mistress to die to inherent whatever money she was going to give them.

Which leaves us with our hero and villain...of course the hero ends up dying which is a nice twist because the hero isn't much of one. You could even make the case that Mr Owen was the hero of the story as he did away with a group of terrible people.


I'm sorry that some of you didn't enjoy this...I love mysteries and this is one of my favorites a story that is long and yet it flies by.

[SpelingError]

The deadline for Siddon to finish is 5 seconds after he reads this post. Let's hope he's a fast typer.

Wow, he actually accomplished this. I'm impressed.

[Siddon]

The deadline for Siddon to finish is 5 seconds after he reads this post. Let's hope he's a fast typer.


When is the deadline to remove the stick from your bum?

[SpelingError]

When is the deadline to remove the stick from your bum?

Exactly one hour from now.

[SpelingError]

I'm sorry that some of you didn't enjoy this...I love mysteries and this is one of my favorites a story that is long and yet it flies by.

For what it's worth, I enjoyed it quite a bit and found it to be a unique entry for this Hall, given it's a mini series. Thanks for nominating it :up:

[Wyldesyde19]

When is the deadline to remove the stick from your bum?

Probably about the same time to remove the one from yours.

[SpelingError]

All the ballots have been submitted and all the points have been tallied up. I'll post the results tomorrow (I'm finishing up my last final exam of the semester today, so I'll be a bit busy this evening). Overall, this was a fun HoF to host. Thanks to everyone for joining it :up:

[Siddon]

Probably about the same time to remove the one from yours.

Yes because it wasn't like I was waiting for you to finish my nomination before posting the review of my nomination.

:rolleyes:

[Wyldesyde19]

Yes because it wasn't like I was waiting for you to finish my nomination before posting the review of my nomination.

:rolleyes:

Not sure why you couldn’t just post yours before me.
In fact, there is zero reason why you couldn’t have. Zip. Zilch

[SpelingError]

Well, this is suddenly escalating.

Just for the record, I didn't mean any offense with my "stares at Siddon ominously" and "The deadline for Siddon to finish is 5 seconds..." posts. I was just goofing around.

[Siddon]

Not sure why you couldn’t just post yours before me.
In fact, there is zero reason why you couldn’t have. Zip. Zilch


Right...not like the story has plot spoilers every 20 minutes with a killer reveal.

[Wyldesyde19]

Right...not like the story has plot spoilers every 20 minutes with a killer reveal.
Right…..not like I can choose to not read the reviews of movies I haven’t seen for that reason.

[Wyldesyde19]

Well, this is suddenly escalating.

Just for the record, I didn't mean any offense with my "stares at Siddon ominously" and "The deadline for Siddon to finish is 5 seconds..." posts. I was just goofing around.


I was aware of that, and thought it was funny.

[Citizen Rules]

Well, this is suddenly escalating.

Just for the record, I didn't mean any offense with my "stares at Siddon ominously" and "The deadline for Siddon to finish is 5 seconds..." posts. I was just goofing around.And it escalated without me being around:p

I knew you were good natured joking around with Siddon in your post. You joke around and makes things light and fun, and that's good hosting. BTW so far excellent job as host.

[SpelingError]

Which film do you all think won this HoF?

[Citizen Rules]

Which film do you all think won this HoF?Wizard of Oz or Passion of Joan of Arc

I'm more wondering which four films tied for last, are they still tied for last?

[SpelingError]

Wizard of Oz or Passion of Joan of Arc

I'm more wondering which four films tied for last, are they still tied for last?
With the final two ballots, the bottom two films ended up having a difference of three points.

[jiraffejustin]

I've been busy at work, but I'm going to make sure I have the last two written up in full when I get home. I want to watch Tower again, I think there is more good than bad and I think it handled a delicate subject with respect with the exception of a bit at the end that I did not like at all.

[Citizen Rules]

With the final two ballots, the bottom two films ended up having a difference of three points.I wonder if the bottom four films are the same as my bottom four? Just a rhetorical question🙂 I'll find out tomorrow.