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cricket
10-29-20, 01:30 PM
Haven't seen Peter Pan in what seems like forever.

Wyldesyde19
10-29-20, 01:56 PM
I liked Peter Pan, but like CR, didn’t find much memorable about it either.
Captain Hook and tinker bell are pretty much the highlights.
Oh, and that croc 🐊

Citizen Rules
10-29-20, 02:19 PM
I liked Peter Pan, but like CR, didn’t find much memorable about it either.
Captain Hook and tinker bell are pretty much the highlights.
Oh, and that croc 🐊There's other versions of the Peter Pan story? I've not seen any, but didn't Robin Williams do one called Hook? and there must be more movie versions out there. Any recommendations anyone?

Wyldesyde19
10-29-20, 02:25 PM
There's other versions of the Peter Pan story? I've not seen any, but didn't Robin Williams do one called Hook? and there must be more movie versions out there. Any recommendations anyone?
Robin Williams did Hook, yes.
There’s also a live action 2003 British version. A 2002 sequel to the original, and of course multiple Tinkerbell children films that were direct to dvd.
I have not seen any of them.

pahaK
10-29-20, 02:36 PM
Robin Williams did Hook, yes.
There’s also a live action 2003 British version. A 2002 sequel to the original, and of course multiple Tinkerbell children films that were direct to dvd.
I have not seen any of them.

The 2003 live-action film is OK. I'm not too fond of Peter Pan either, but its concept (of a child who never grows up) is interesting. Peter himself is annoying though, and I hate the idea that he's unable to learn anything.

Miss Vicky
10-29-20, 02:53 PM
There are a whole bunch of film and television versions of Peter Pan, including a silent version from 1924 (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0015224/?ref_=fn_tt_tt_11). I've only seen the Disney animated one and Hook, though.

There's also Finding Neverland, about the author J.M. Barrie and his inspiration for the play.

TheUsualSuspect
10-29-20, 03:01 PM
Pan has to be one of the worst adaptations I've seen. Garrett Hedlund gives one of the most boring performances I've seen in awhile.

Chypmunk
10-29-20, 03:21 PM
Oh dear, it looks like Peter's being Panned!!

CosmicRunaway
10-29-20, 03:23 PM
well, if, like me, you haven't seen it - you should and find out for yourself
You lucky dog you:p Ace in the Hole is amazing. I gave it a 5/5. It's one of my favorite noirs.
I'm definitely adding Ace in the Hole to my watch list now.

Citizen Rules
10-29-20, 04:07 PM
There are a whole bunch of film and television versions of Peter Pan, including a silent version from 1924 (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0015224/?ref_=fn_tt_tt_11). I've only seen the Disney animated one and Hook, though.

There's also Finding Neverland, about the author J.M. Barrie and his inspiration for the play.Thanks, Finding Neverland sounds like something I'd like, I'm hoping to watch it tonight. Is Hook any good?

Thursday Next
10-29-20, 04:10 PM
Going My Way


I had genuinely never heard of this before, although I must have scrolled past the name in the lists section many times. The funny thing is, I have seen The Bells of St. Mary’s, although a long time ago now, and I had no idea this came first.

It’s interestingly quite slice of life, without much of a defined plot arc beyond the two priests getting used to each other and getting money for the church, with little bits of stories told along the way, which don’t all play out in quite the dramatic way you might expect. It’s quite gentle, with moments of genuinely funny humour and a little dash of war propaganda (it was 1944 after all).

I can’t watch anything with Irish priests without thinking of Father Ted. I can’t help but wonder whether Mrs Quimp in this at least partially inspired Mrs Doyle in Father Ted.

I liked Bing Crosby as the lead character, he’s very personable in the role. My Grandad is a big fan of Bing, so I’d heard quite a few of the songs in this film before. I’ll have to ask him whether he’s seen it, between Bing and golf he’s bound to like it.

Your appreciation for this film will depend on your tolerance for schmaltz and singing (and sometimes both at the same time). I would not, for example, recommend it to Miss Vicky. I found that the bits with the title song and the boys’ choir grated a little, but everything to do with the elderly priest was very affecting, in a Make Way for Tomorrow sort of a way and I had a tear in my eye at the ending. So perhaps schmaltz is selling this season after all.

No idea who nominated this for me, if pressed I would guess Citizen or Cricket, but I enjoyed it and would probably not have got round to it left to my own devices, so thank you.

Citizen Rules
10-29-20, 04:24 PM
Going My Way


No idea who nominated this for me, if pressed I would guess Citizen or Cricket, but I enjoyed it and would probably not have got round to it left to my own devices, so thank you. Hey, now there's at least two of us who's seen this underseen gem. I just read my old review and I see nobody read my review either apparently. That's too bad because I rated this a 4.5/5 and loved it. In its day it was nominated for a number of Oscars. In case somebody wants to see my review here it is:
Going My Way (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1917214#post1917214)

BTW, It might sound like I've chose the last couple movies for you guys, but don't be so sure of that:p

cricket
10-29-20, 05:54 PM
I don't have the greatest recollection of Going My Way but I do remember liking it.

Miss Vicky
10-29-20, 06:11 PM
Thanks, Finding Neverland sounds like something I'd like, I'm hoping to watch it tonight. Is Hook any good?

It's been at least 20 years since I last watched Hook so I don't really remember any details, but I do remember not liking it much.

I really liked Finding Neverland but I'm a fan of Johnny Depp so my opinion is a little biased. Kate Winslet is quite good in it, too.

edarsenal
10-29-20, 06:32 PM
Thanks, Finding Neverland sounds like something I'd like, I'm hoping to watch it tonight. Is Hook any good?
I've seen Finding Neverland and enjoyed it.
I'm sorta on the fence with Hook. Robin Williams plays a grown up Peter Pan who left Neverland to be with Wendy (now his wife) and, like a lot of us, the boy grow up and became another suit in the big cog. His children are kidnapped by Hook and William's character has completely forgotten he was once Peter Pan.
It has potential but has a rough time reaching that potential. Also, in a kind of strange use of talent, Dustin Hoffman plays Hook and Julia Roberts as Tinkerbell. Though Bob Hoskins does a pretty good Smee.

Seen a lot of representations of Peter Pan growing up including a few stage productions on TV. One of them included Sandy Duncan as Peter Pan. It seemed back in the day they would have a woman playing Peter Pan on stage -- strange that.

Sorry to hear you've had little luck beyond Bambi for Disney animation. I wonder how you'd do with something like Pinocchio from Disney.

edarsenal
10-29-20, 06:44 PM
Going My Way


I had genuinely never heard of this before, although I must have scrolled past the name in the lists section many times. The funny thing is, I have seen The Bells of St. Mary’s, although a long time ago now, and I had no idea this came first.

It’s interestingly quite slice of life, without much of a defined plot arc beyond the two priests getting used to each other and getting money for the church, with little bits of stories told along the way, which don’t all play out in quite the dramatic way you might expect. It’s quite gentle, with moments of genuinely funny humour and a little dash of war propaganda (it was 1944 after all).

I can’t watch anything with Irish priests without thinking of Father Ted. I can’t help but wonder whether Mrs Quimp in this at least partially inspired Mrs Doyle in Father Ted.

I liked Bing Crosby as the lead character, he’s very personable in the role. My Grandad is a big fan of Bing, so I’d heard quite a few of the songs in this film before. I’ll have to ask him whether he’s seen it, between Bing and golf he’s bound to like it.

Your appreciation for this film will depend on your tolerance for schmaltz and singing (and sometimes both at the same time). I would not, for example, recommend it to Miss Vicky. I found that the bits with the title song and the boys’ choir grated a little, but everything to do with the elderly priest was very affecting, in a Make Way for Tomorrow sort of a way and I had a tear in my eye at the ending. So perhaps schmaltz is selling this season after all.

No idea who nominated this for me, if pressed I would guess Citizen or Cricket, but I enjoyed it and would probably not have got round to it left to my own devices, so thank you.

Hey, now there's at least two of us who's seen this underseen gem. I just read my old review and I see nobody read my review either apparently. That's too bad because I rated this a 4.5/5 and loved it. In its day it was nominated for a number of Oscars. In case somebody wants to see my review here it is:
Going My Way (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1917214#post1917214)

BTW, It might sound like I've chose the last couple movies for you guys, but don't be so sure of that:p
A fellow fan of Father Ted!! VERY NICE!!!! Extra points for that

Had no idea this was the first film to Bells of St. Mary and I love Fitzgerald so I'll have to see this one

Citizen Rules
10-29-20, 06:45 PM
It's been at least 20 years since I last watched Hook so I don't really remember any details, but I do remember not liking it much.

I really liked Finding Neverland but I'm a fan of Johnny Depp so my opinion is a little biased. Kate Winslet is quite good in it, too.Two voted for Finding Neverland, sounding good! I like Depp, even before he got famous as Captain Jack, and Kate Winslet is a favorite of mine too.

I've seen Finding Neverland and enjoyed it.
I'm sorta on the fence with Hook. Robin Williams plays a grown up Peter Pan who left Neverland to be with Wendy (now his wife) and, like a lot of us, the boy grow up and became another suit in the big cog. His children are kidnapped by Hook and William's character has completely forgotten he was once Peter Pan.
It has potential but has a rough time reaching that potential. Also, in a kind of strange use of talent, Dustin Hoffman plays Hook and Julia Roberts as Tinkerbell. Though Bob Hoskins does a pretty good Smee.

Seen a lot of representations of Peter Pan growing up including a few stage productions on TV. One of them included Sandy Duncan as Peter Pan. It seemed back in the day they would have a woman playing Peter Pan on stage -- strange that.

Sorry to hear you've had little luck beyond Bambi for Disney animation. I wonder how you'd do with something like Pinocchio from Disney.You actually made Hook sound more interesting than I had thought, so one of these days:p I'd be up for Pinocchio, I think my favorite might be Cinderella as I've seen other versions of that story and I'm quite fond of it.

edarsenal
10-29-20, 06:46 PM
Ace in the Hole is a terrific movie, but when it was released it got terrible reviews and it lost a lot of money.
Read about that. USA citizens thought it was TOO cynical.
I hread that after Sunset they promised royalties on Ace and since it lost cash, Wilder didn't get any of it.

edarsenal
10-29-20, 06:50 PM
Jan Sterling is priceless in Ace in the Hole. I've seen her in several other movies and if given half a chance she really shines, like sterling silver!
I think the only other time I've seen her was in The Human Jungle so I may have to rectify it.

Citizen Rules
10-29-20, 07:00 PM
I think the only other time I've seen her was in The Human Jungle so I may have to rectify it.I think I seen that one, thought those noir titles start blend together after awhile. My favorite Jan Sterling performance (besides Ace in the Hole) is the forensic investigative-procedural noir with Ricardo Montalban Mystery Street (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0042771/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_86)

Montalban is real good too, nice to see a Latin actor have a lead in an old Hollywood film.

rauldc14
10-29-20, 07:01 PM
Buckets I missed this. What would everyone have picked for me?

Citizen Rules
10-29-20, 07:04 PM
Buckets I missed this. What would everyone have picked for me?Ask Cricket if it's cool if you join, it's cool with me.

Wyldesyde19
10-29-20, 07:18 PM
Buckets I missed this. What would everyone have picked for me?
I’ll be glad to look up a film for you

Wyldesyde19
10-29-20, 07:20 PM
Thanks, Finding Neverland sounds like something I'd like, I'm hoping to watch it tonight. Is Hook any good?
I’ve seen and enjoyed Finding Neverland. Depp and Winslet are great in it, and it’s a nice sentimental film. It gets a little sappy at the end, but I think you’ll enjoy it.

Citizen Rules
10-29-20, 07:22 PM
I’ve seen and enjoyed Finding Neverland. Depp and Winslet are great in it, and it’s a nice sentimental film. It gets a little sappy at the end, but I think you’ll enjoy it.I like sentimental, even sappy sometimes.

Wyldesyde19
10-29-20, 07:23 PM
I like sentimental, even sappy sometimes.
Yeah, I mean, that last part is a minor quibble as I thoroughly enjoyed the film.
Pretty sure it’s right up your alley.

Miss Vicky
10-29-20, 07:23 PM
I'm okay with you signing up late if cricket's okay with it, raul.

Just, you know, as long as you don't ignore my guidelines when picking for me. :laugh:

cricket
10-29-20, 08:20 PM
Of course Raul can be in

Wyldesyde19
10-29-20, 09:19 PM
Raul’s Recommendation is sent in!

cricket
10-29-20, 09:36 PM
I'm going to watch A Man and a Woman first in the next couple or few days. There's a perfect copy on YouTube in two parts.

Citizen Rules
10-29-20, 09:47 PM
Raul’s Recommendation is sent in!Did Raul actually say he wanted to join? I wasn't sure, it almost sounded like he was just curious as to what we would've picked for him.

rauldc14
10-29-20, 10:29 PM
I thought everything was nominated without knowing who did it, and I would break that spell unfortunately.

Miss Vicky
10-29-20, 10:32 PM
I thought everything was nominated without knowing who did it, and I would break that spell unfortunately.

I suppose we would all know which one you picked for us, but you wouldn't know who picked what for you. Up to you.

Miss Vicky
10-29-20, 10:33 PM
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Blue Velvet (David Lynch, 1986)
Imdb (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090756/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0)

Date Watched: 10/29/2020
Cinema or Home: Home
Reason For Watching: The Personal Recommendation Hall of Fame II, nominated by someone who didn't take my advice about what to avoid.
Rewatch: No.

There is a decent mystery thriller buried in here somewhere under all the usual Lynchian bulls*** and the film does feature some pretty great cinematography (which is also typical of the director). Unfortunately "decent" is the highest praise I can give the story and what little good there is was greatly overshadowed by writing that felt like it was the cinematic equivalent of bad erotic fiction penned by someone with no clue about what is sexy, no clue about how real people actually behave, and who thought it would be cool to have a villain that says some version of f**k every other word.

Dennis Hopper does chew up the screen as that villain and does his best to make something out of a character whose only personality trait seems to be his love of using the F word, but the film just mostly fell flat. Aside from being annoyed at Lynch's brand of weirdness, I really didn't feel anything watching this.

I don't mean to offend whoever chose this for me but I am baffled as to why this was your choice. Aside from the obvious reason to avoid it (that being me specifically stating that I don't like Lynch), it doesn't really fit with anything that I said I do like. Kyle MacLachlan, while not unattractive, hardly qualifies as "male eye candy," it's actually fairly light on violence, and it most definitely did not make me cry. I wouldn't quite go so far as to say I hated it, but if me not liking David Lynch movies is a rule, Blue Velvet is definitely not the exception to that rule.

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Wyldesyde19
10-29-20, 10:35 PM
I thought everything was nominated without knowing who did it, and I would break that spell unfortunately.

Eh, it’s not necessarily integral to the process as far as I’m concerned, but my pic was just in case you do join so no one else could claim it.

Citizen Rules
10-29-20, 10:41 PM
Blue Velvet (David Lynch, 1986)

... who thought it would be cool to have a villain that says some version of f**k every other word.
That sounds like something I'd say:p I'll have to remember that sentence, I might want to reuse it myself someday.

Miss Vicky
10-29-20, 10:57 PM
That sounds like something I'd say:p I'll have to remember that sentence, I might want to reuse it myself someday.

I mean obviously I'm not bothered by profanity, but hearing the same word over and over again got real tiresome real quick.

Citizen Rules
10-29-20, 10:59 PM
I mean obviously I'm not bothered by profanity, but hearing the same word over and over again got real tiresome real quick.Yeah that's cool, though I'm sure if I said that about a movie I'd get some of these:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Wyldesyde19
10-29-20, 11:02 PM
Yeah that's cool, though I'm sure if I said that about a movie I'd get some of these:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
Funny you mention this because thats exactly what happened when I made similar complaints against Wolf of Wall Street. 😆

Citizen Rules
10-29-20, 11:09 PM
Funny you mention this because thats exactly what happened when I made similar complaints against Wolf of Wall Street. 😆I hear ya, I've made similar complaints since joining MoFo about certain movies. Seems the more f bombs, the weaker the written script dialogue is. It can be a writer's trick to cover up for lack of proper vernacular.

Miss Vicky
10-29-20, 11:10 PM
Yeah that's cool, though I'm sure if I said that about a movie I'd get some of these:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

To put it in perspective, (according to the IMDb trivia page for Blue Velvet) "f***k" is uttered 56 times - 55 of which were by Dennis Hopper.

edarsenal
10-29-20, 11:10 PM
well, F@CK ME


:D;)


and raul SHOULD join in regardless if we all knew which one he nominated which shouldn't really matter since last time we all spoke up after a review came in on which one of us nominated. It hasn't happened here as of yet

Miss Vicky
10-29-20, 11:16 PM
and raul SHOULD join in regardless if we all knew which one he nominated which shouldn't really matter since last time we all spoke up after a review came in on which one of us nominated. It hasn't happened here as of yet

I agree, but totally up to him.

I kind of like that I don't know who picked what, but I really didn't make any effort to conceal my own picks. By my count, 5 of the 11 other participants definitely know which movie I chose for them (granted, one of them is cricket) and a few of the others could easily figure it out if they did a little digging or just made an educated guess.

edarsenal
10-29-20, 11:37 PM
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Sullivan's Travels

John L. Sullivan: There's a lot to be said for making people laugh. Did you know that that's all some people have? It isn't much, but it's better than nothing in this cockeyed caravan.

I do believe this is my second film starring Joel McCrea, the other being Ride the High Country (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0056412/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1) and my first of the charming Veronica Lake outside of a noir film. Both of which doing a very good job at a comedic venture that delves into a Director wanting to make a film about the destitute and the poor, but has never been "in trouble" and decides to play the hobo and find out. And does (of course).
Got a kick out of the movie he wanted to make: "O Brother Where Art Thou?". And I'm guessing so did the Coen Brothers as well.

As I stated previously, I had seen the ending to this, basically the last 30 min about a year ago and at the time I wondered how this was a comedy considering Sullivan had found the trouble he had originally set out to, but, in fact it is a comedy. Not a rip-roaring one, but definitely one that creates a good feeling chuckle and a smile that lasts throughout.
Along with McCrea and Lake there were several supporting actors I've enjoyed and was happy to see. At only an hour and half, there was part of me that wished for a little more but in the end, it really was just right.

A great film with a sentimental story that I am so glad to check off my list from the 40s Countdown.
Thank you so much to whomever nominated this for me!

Miss Vicky
10-29-20, 11:44 PM
Uh... hey, edarsenal

I mean, it's cool that you've already watched and reviewed two movies for this HOF, I guess, but you still need to do that for five of the ones in the 23rd HOF (including the most important one) and there are only like 3 weeks left until the 23rd HOF deadline...

Just sayin'.

edarsenal
10-29-20, 11:58 PM
Uh... hey, edarsenal

I mean, it's cool that you've already watched and reviewed two movies for this HOF, I guess, but you still need to do that for five of the ones in the 23rd HOF (including the most important one) and there are only like 3 weeks left until the 23rd HOF deadline...

Just sayin'.
I firmly agree and wanted a couple under my belt before seriously finishing off the 23rd. I'll be watching Banshun tomorrow night and most likely follow up with Christine either Saturday or Monday night.

Miss Vicky
10-30-20, 12:05 AM
I firmly agree and wanted a couple under my belt before seriously finishing off the 23rd. I'll be watching Banshun tomorrow night and most likely follow up with Christine either Saturday or Monday night.

It's okay, I just like giving you a hard time. :laugh:

Also, I'm curious to see what you'll think of The Skin I Live In.

edarsenal
10-30-20, 01:25 AM
It's okay, I just like giving you a hard time. :laugh:

Also, I'm curious to see what you'll think of The Skin I Live In.

whatever, bitch ;)
I'm actually tempted to leave that one as the grand finale. Though pretty excited to check it out.

gbgoodies
10-30-20, 02:23 AM
There's other versions of the Peter Pan story? I've not seen any, but didn't Robin Williams do one called Hook? and there must be more movie versions out there. Any recommendations anyone?


For some reason, most versions of Peter Pan aren't very good. The Disney movie is okay, but it's a bit too childish IMO.

The two worst versions are probably Pan (2015) and Peter Pan Live! (2014). I'd recommend avoiding both of these versions.

Hook (1991) is okay, but not great. It's worth watching, but don't expect too much.

The only version that I'd recommend is Finding Neverland (2004), which is really about J. M. Barrie, who wrote Peter Pan, rather than the Peter Pan story itself.

Citizen Rules
10-30-20, 01:59 PM
Blue Velvet (David Lynch, 1986)

I am baffled as to why this was your choice. Aside from the obvious reason to avoid it (that being me specifically stating that I don't like Lynch), it doesn't really fit with anything that I said I do like. I'm guessing the person who chose it either didn't read your director/genre dislikes post, maybe they joined later and didn't back read the entire thread....Or maybe they thought you'd enjoy the sex in the movie. I'm sure they had good intentions. I thought this film might actually click for you when I seen Cricket post it.


Sullivan's Travels

I do believe this is my second film starring Joel McCrea, the other being Ride the High Country (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0056412/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1) and my first of the charming Veronica Lake outside of a noir film. Both of which doing a very good job at a comedic venture that delves into a Director wanting to make a film about the destitute and the poor, but has never been "in trouble" and decides to play the hobo and find out. Gosh, I'm jealous of your movie choices! Another film I love. I've said this before but Joel McCrea is one actor I can readily identify with, so he's a good inroad for me into the world of the movie.

Veronica Lake! She has lots of charm on screen. Off screen she was considered the worst pita actress to work with. But if you ever watch or read a bio on her you'll know why (not her fault). She's one of my favorites and co starred in several important noirs with Alan Ladd. We need to see more of her films:)

Citizen Rules
10-30-20, 02:12 PM
The only version that I'd recommend is Finding Neverland (2004), which is really about J. M. Barrie, who wrote Peter Pan, rather than the Peter Pan story itself.I watched Finding Neverland last night and enjoyed it. Johnny Depp is really good at playing the offbeat but likeable character that follows his own vision instead of society's. Kate Winslet was likeable too, then again she's usually amiable in most of her films.

What I liked most was the insight into the playwright who penned Peter Pan. Yes it's sentimental, but what in the world is wrong with that? We see so many movies that revolve around the negative, that it's refreshing to see a film that channels more positive emotions.

What intrigued me was the few brief scenes of Peter Pan being performed on stage, that's what I want to see more of! Have you ever seen Peter Pan (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0287870/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_8) (1955) or Peter Pan (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0054176/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_4) (1960) both starring Mary Martin? I'm keen to watch those.

Wyldesyde19
10-30-20, 03:03 PM
I figured you’d enjoy Finding Neverland.
Also, count me in as a huge fan of Sullivan’s Travels.
I think I had it at #2 in our last one when it was recommended to me.
Loved it.

Citizen Rules
10-30-20, 03:08 PM
I figured you’d enjoy Finding Neverland.
Also, count me in as a huge fan of Sullivan’s Travels.
I think I had it at #2 in our last one when it was recommended to me.
Loved it.Have you seen Veronica Lake in anything else? (I'm a big fan of hers)

Wyldesyde19
10-30-20, 03:22 PM
Have you seen Veronica Lake in anything else? (I'm a big fan of hers)
No, or at least, nothing I can think of. I haven’t seen any of her noirs that she is famous for, sadly.
But if that Noir countdown happens, I can catch up on them.
*hint, hint*

Citizen Rules
10-30-20, 03:48 PM
No, or at least, nothing I can think of. I haven’t seen any of her noirs that she is famous for, sadly.
But if that Noir countdown happens, I can catch up on them.
*hint, hint*Here's hoping:)

juanoli
10-30-20, 03:52 PM
Super deserved, I liked reading you

edarsenal
10-30-20, 06:19 PM
I watched Finding Neverland last night and enjoyed it. Johnny Depp is really good at playing the offbeat but likeable character that follows his own vision instead of society's. Kate Winslet was likeable too, then again she's usually amiable in most of her films.

What I liked most was the insight into the playwright who penned Peter Pan. Yes it's sentimental, but what in the world is wrong with that? We see so many movies that revolve around the negative, that it's refreshing to see a film that channels more positive emotions.

What intrigued me was the few brief scenes of Peter Pan being performed on stage, that's what I want to see more of! Have you ever seen Peter Pan (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0287870/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_8) (1955) or Peter Pan (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0054176/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_4) (1960) both starring Mary Martin? I'm keen to watch those.

I think I may have seen the 1960 version on TV as a wee tot. Not sure but there were a number of them back then.

cricket
10-30-20, 07:14 PM
I liked Sullivan's Travels more than I expected when I watched it for the 40's countdown. A lot of that had to do with Veronica Lake.

I nominated Blue Velvet for Miss Vicky. I have marked down the most possible noms for her, almost 20. When I look at the rest, I think she'd like all of them. I see them as safe choices, but I couldn't picture her loving any of them. I thought it Blue Velvet clicked for her, it could be more powerful than the others. Perhaps I wouldn't have chosen it had I seen it more recently as it's been about 20 years. I looked at it as my favorite from David Lynch, besides The Straight Story, which isn't like Lynch at all. Her not liking Lynch is another reason I picked it. I like taking chances and the surprise of it being a successful choice would have been a better than average payoff. I also picked Good Will Hunting for CR after reading he didn't like Robin Williams, but then someone else took it. This time it didn't work out but I don't regret trying.

Miss Vicky
10-30-20, 07:35 PM
I nominated Blue Velvet for Miss Vicky.

That’s surprising, especially since I liked your nomination most last time. Oh well, I probably disliked it less than I disliked the other Lynch films I have seen (Mulholland Drive, Eraserhead, The Elephant Man), so there’s that, I guess?

cricket
10-30-20, 07:51 PM
That’s surprising, especially since I liked your nomination most last time. Oh well, I probably disliked it less than I disliked the other Lynch films I have seen (Mulholland Drive, Eraserhead, The Elephant Man), so there’s that, I guess?

And the movie that I was considering that 2 others picked for you is American Werewolf.

Miss Vicky
10-30-20, 07:53 PM
And the movie that I was considering that 2 others picked for you is American Werewolf.
I had a feeling it might be. Probably gonna watch it today or tomorrow so we’ll know soon if it was a good choice or not.

Wyldesyde19
10-30-20, 09:25 PM
Good Will Hunting featured a different, and serious, role from Williams than we usually get. Much more restrained as well.
Also, the film itself is amazing.

Citizen Rules
10-30-20, 09:38 PM
...I also picked Good Will Hunting for CR after reading he didn't like Robin Williams, but then someone else took it. This time it didn't work out but I don't regret trying.I actually don't dislike Robin Williams per say. It's just in some of his movies he goes way over top...which some folks like and some don't. I use to like him as a talk show guest on late night talk shows. I think in more serious movie roles he could be great. I haven't seen him in much so Good Will Hunting will be a good one for me to watch. I'd also like to see Williams in One Hour Photo, I've heard good things about that one.

Miss Vicky
10-30-20, 09:44 PM
I've only seen Good Will Hunting once, many years ago. I didn't care for it at all, though that probably had more to do with my dislike of both Matt Damon and Ben Affleck (I'm okay with Affleck and am indifferent to Damon now).

About all I can remember from it was the line "Do you like apples? How do you like them apples?" though.

Citizen Rules
10-30-20, 09:52 PM
I'm OK with Matt Damon, he seems kinda boring usually. But I suppose for this kind of role that might work out. I did like his movie about people being made small, I forget what it's called.

edarsenal
10-30-20, 10:18 PM
I liked Sullivan's Travels more than I expected when I watched it for the 40's countdown. A lot of that had to do with Veronica Lake.

I nominated Blue Velvet for Miss Vicky. I have marked down the most possible noms for her, almost 20. When I look at the rest, I think she'd like all of them. I see them as safe choices, but I couldn't picture her loving any of them. I thought it Blue Velvet clicked for her, it could be more powerful than the others. Perhaps I wouldn't have chosen it had I seen it more recently as it's been about 20 years. I looked at it as my favorite from David Lynch, besides The Straight Story, which isn't like Lynch at all. Her not liking Lynch is another reason I picked it. I like taking chances and the surprise of it being a successful choice would have been a better than average payoff. I also picked Good Will Hunting for CR after reading he didn't like Robin Williams, but then someone else took it. This time it didn't work out but I don't regret trying.

And the movie that I was considering that 2 others picked for you is American Werewolf.
Just letting the cat out of every single bag, ain't ya?
I was wondering if we were going to keep quiet about telling someone what we nominated once they reviewed it.
Now I know. lol

So, Citizen Rules, I was the one who picked Peter Pan for you. It was actually between that and Pinocchio which I was second guessing as I sent in the nominations. Thinking you'd enjoy the more epic feel of Pinocchio and then figuring, no he'll enjoy the sentimentality of Peter Pan. So, sorry it didn't work for you.
Bringing me to:
planet of the apes
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-FJqrToXqPPc/Ti3YuMBOYTI/AAAAAAAAHS4/BZkBGWed45w/s1600/apes5.jpg
was considering watching this last night before it was even nominated for me so i'm glad to have finally seen it. was never in a hurry to get to this one because i've seen it referenced so many times that i felt as if i'd seen it already, but it was still thrilling to see the original. this film is very much just a dramatized thought experiment ("what if... there was a planet... of the apes???"), which can be a bad thing, but when it's this grand and cinematic, it can be a wonderful thing. especially if it involves charlton heston going crazy on some apes in an epic sci-fi metaphor about the evils of humanity and how systems of oppression and cruelty are reproduced. i usually try not to let knowing the twist in advance affect my perception of a movie, but it's a bit harder with this one simply because it's so integral to the premise of the film and in retrospect it feels extremely obvious, but i'm sure i would've been surprised at the time. regardless, the cold matter-of-factness of the final shot is still incredibly powerful. not much else to say about this one that hasn't been said. it's about a freaking planet of the apes, what's not to like?

4
That was mine. Glad you enjoyed it!

That’s surprising, especially since I liked your nomination most last time. Oh well, I probably disliked it less than I disliked the other Lynch films I have seen (Mulholland Drive, Eraserhead, The Elephant Man), so there’s that, I guess?
With cricket remarking on Straight Story, I'm curious if that might be the exception to Lynch films since it is VERY un-Lynch. Which it is. Though it might be a little too sentimental for ya.

Citizen Rules
10-30-20, 10:24 PM
...So, @Citizen Rules (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=84637), I was the one who picked Peter Pan for you. It was actually between that and Pinocchio which I was second guessing as I sent in the nominations. Thinking you'd enjoy the more epic feel of Pinocchio and then figuring, no he'll enjoy the sentimentality of Peter Pan. So, sorry it didn't work for you....I might not have loved it, but it was a nice watch and I'm certainly glad I did see it. I figure anybody who joins and takes a best guess at what I might like deserves this:up:

I so suck at guessing who chose what. I was sure Hey Fredrick chose Peter Pan, I mean he does have a Tinker Bell pumpkin! I thought you chose Good Will Hunting as your fond of Robin Williams. Wrong guess there too. I don't know if I'll be making any more guesses or not:p

Wyldesyde19
10-31-20, 12:45 AM
Sinking into Let the Right One In shortly.

edarsenal
10-31-20, 01:02 AM
I might not have loved it, but it was a nice watch and I'm certainly glad I did see it. I figure anybody who joins and takes a best guess at what I might like deserves this:up:

I so suck at guessing who chose what. I was sure Hey Fredrick chose Peter Pan, I mean he does have a Tinker Bell pumpkin! I thought you chose Good Will Hunting as your fond of Robin Williams. Wrong guess there too. I don't know if I'll be making any more guesses or not:p

I feel ya. It's impossible for me to guess. Hell, I don't know which one Miss Vicky picked for me and she has several obvious ones on others lol

Miss Vicky
10-31-20, 02:09 AM
I feel ya. It's impossible for me to guess. Hell, I don't know which one Miss Vicky picked for me and she has several obvious ones on others lol

If it makes you feel better, the one I picked for you is not an obvious choice at all. I think it’s a very good movie but it’s not a personal favorite and not a movie I’ve ever really talked about on the forum.

edarsenal
10-31-20, 02:18 AM
If it makes you feel better, the one I picked for you is not an obvious choice at all. I think it’s a very good movie but it’s not a personal favorite and not a movie I’ve ever really talked about on the forum.
Interesting. . .

Wyldesyde19
10-31-20, 03:08 AM
Let the Right One In

Oskar is a lonely boy. No friends, his parents are divorced and hardly interact with him as far as I could tell. He’s bullied. One day he meets what he thinks is a girl, Eli. Eli harbors a secret, one that is both terrifying and sinister.
One that forces Eli into an even lonelier existence.
What developes between is a friendship. They need each other, more then they’re aware of. And they accept each other as they are.
For a vampire film, it isn’t interested in being conventional. Which works for this film. A straight horror film would have been unwise . LTROI is about the emotional bond between the two children, and so it wisely focuses on them. It does remain true to its horror elements, however.
The scenes are wonderfully shot, from the opening snowfall in the dark, to Eli’s eyes mysteriously glowing in the dark before a Oskar turns on the light and we catch a glimpse as they return to normal.
Throughout the film I was struck by this sadness and loneliness with Eli, and wish we could have learned more about Eli’s past.
It’s a good pick, and one I have been wanting to see for a long time now, since it’s first release in fact.
Thank you, I’m guessing...Thursday Next?

cricket
10-31-20, 08:34 AM
Good flick that I liked much more the 2nd time around, and a great choice for Wyldesyde!

Miss Vicky
10-31-20, 12:53 PM
68621

An American Werewolf in London (John Landis, 1981)
Imdb (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082010/)

Date Watched: 10/30/2020
Cinema or Home: Home
Reason For Watching: The Personal Recommendation Hall of Fame II, no idea who nominated it.
Rewatch: No.

I had some pretty mixed feelings about this movie. On the whole, it was well done. The performances were good. The make-up and practical effects were very impressive and held up well despite the film being nearly 40 years old. I also enjoyed the soundtrack (though the lack of a certain Warren Zevon song seemed like a missed opportunity).

But where the film fell short for me was in its comedic elements. Most of the humor fell flat. I think I chuckled once and that didn't happen until it was almost over. Overall I think the film works well as a horror, but not so much as a comedy. I can't say I'm disappointed as my hopes weren't particularly high, but in the end I respected it far more than I actually enjoyed it.

3

Citizen Rules
10-31-20, 01:30 PM
I want to thank everyone who joined and chose a movie for me. I know it's not easy putting yourself on the line by suggesting another person's film taste in a choice made specifically for them. It takes some guts to join this Personal Recommendation as a person risk making a movie choice for another that's going to get slammed.

So I just wanted to say I do appreciate the effort and feel kinda bad hating on a film. But I'd feel worse if I lied and pretended to like something I didn't.

Citizen Rules
10-31-20, 01:31 PM
https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=68622
A Matter of Life and Death (1946)

A Matter of Life and Death is the type of film that I'd seek out for myself to watch. I've seen a number of 'afterlife' fantasy/drama movies where the idea of a person entering the 'afterlife' is explored. This was a popular theme after WWII, most likely because so many people were grieving over the untimely loss of so many friends and loved ones.

Some of my favorites in this sub genre is A Guy Named Joe (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0035959) (1943), Heaven Can Wait (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0035979/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_63) (1943) and I just watched this one a couple weeks ago: Between Two Worlds (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0036641/?ref_=tt_urv) (1944)...So I do like this sub genre.

A Matter of Life was a good choice for me, But sorry to say it was one of the worst constructed movies I've seen. The title credits followed by a long exposé of the mysteries of the universe, made for a slow, cumbersome start. That type of opening worked for Frank Capra in It's a Wonderful Life, but here it just sucked the energy out of the all important establishing 1st scene.

I did enjoy the next scene where David Niven is about to die as he jumps out of a burning aircraft and without a parachute. His waking up confused on a beach but somehow miraculously alive from the jump was done well...But why oh why was a naked boy needed on the beach scene? I'm befuddled by the reasoning for that? We don't see any nudity but it's clear from the side profile that the 10-12 year old boy is setting on the beach naked? Why?

But the first real faux pas was the instant love when the pilot spots the U.S. Army flight control woman he'd talked to as his plane went down (Kim Hunter). I mean he just kisses her after only a few words between them. Sure I know they had this emotional connection as he told her his farewells before dying...But geez, I just didn't buy that instantaneous jumping into each others' arms. That scene needed some room to breath. It should've been expanded as it's ALL important to the theme of the movie. Even another 60 seconds could've made their love seem real.

But my real complaint was the totally daft ending in heaven, with the trail to determine if David Niven gets to remain alive or has to be called to heaven. The trail should've been about the unbridled strength of love and it's power to rise above it all. Instead we get this silly fight between a dead American revolutionary patriot (Raymond Massey) who hates the British. Oddly the jury is made up of dead members of countries once dominated or defeated by Britain. All very heavy handed. Heaven seems to be very politicized, and all the soldiers are carrying guns:rolleyes: To still a line from my friend & fellow MoFo reviewer Gideon, the movie was a 'hot mess'.

edarsenal
10-31-20, 02:23 PM
Let the Right One In

Oskar is a lonely boy. No friends, his parents are divorced and hardly interact with him as far as I could tell. He’s bullied. One day he meets what he thinks is a girl, Eli. Eli harbors a secret, one that is both terrifying and sinister.
One that forces Eli into an even lonelier existence.
What developes between is a friendship. They need each other, more then they’re aware of. And they accept each other as they are.
For a vampire film, it isn’t interested in being conventional. Which works for this film. A straight horror film would have been unwise . LTROI is about the emotional bond between the two children, and so it wisely focuses on them. It does remain true to its horror elements, however.
The scenes are wonderfully shot, from the opening snowfall in the dark, to Eli’s eyes mysteriously glowing in the dark before a Oskar turns on the light and we catch a glimpse as they return to normal.
Throughout the film I was struck by this sadness and loneliness with Eli, and wish we could have learned more about Eli’s past.
It’s a good pick, and one I have been wanting to see for a long time now, since it’s first release in fact.
Thank you, I’m guessing...Thursday Next?

Good flick that I liked much more the 2nd time around, and a great choice for Wyldesyde!
Very good film. Cinematography was exceptional. Especially the scene in the pool.
And like cricket I got a greater appreciation on my second viewing.

edarsenal
10-31-20, 02:25 PM
68621

An American Werewolf in London (John Landis, 1981)
Imdb (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082010/)

Date Watched: 10/30/2020
Cinema or Home: Home
Reason For Watching: The Personal Recommendation Hall of Fame II, no idea who nominated it.
Rewatch: No.

I had some pretty mixed feelings about this movie. On the whole, it was well done. The performances were good. The make-up and practical effects were very impressive and held up well despite the film being nearly 40 years old. I also enjoyed the soundtrack (though the lack of a certain Warren Zevon song seemed like a missed opportunity).

But where the film fell short for me was in its comedic elements. Most of the humor fell flat. I think I chuckled once and that didn't happen until it was almost over. Overall I think the film works well as a horror, but not so much as a comedy. I can't say I'm disappointed as my hopes weren't particularly high, but in the end I respected it far more than I actually enjoyed it.

3
Had a feeling about the comedic aspects not working for you and yeah, Warren Zevon SHOULD have been in there, but a film I've always enjoyed.

rauldc14
10-31-20, 02:32 PM
I've decided to not join in, but it was tempting.

I'll be back for the 24th and perhaps the next specific Hall of Fame

edarsenal
10-31-20, 02:34 PM
I've been curious to see A Matter of Life and Death and may still check it out. I am sorry to hear it didn't work for you, CR

Miss Vicky
10-31-20, 02:45 PM
I've decided to not join in, but it was tempting.

I'll be back for the 24th and perhaps the next specific Hall of Fame

No worries. See you in the next general.
I would've given you Wreck-It Ralph, btw. So watch the damn thing already!

Frightened Inmate No. 2
10-31-20, 02:46 PM
i didn’t nominate a matter of life and death for CR but it was my backup choice for him and i thought i might regret not choosing it but now i’m glad. it’s still a great film tho

rauldc14
10-31-20, 02:48 PM
No worries. See you in the next general.
I would've given you Wreck-It Ralph, btw. So watch the damn thing already!

Yeah I don't know what the hell has taken me so long. The wife and I will watch it hopefully soon.

edarsenal
10-31-20, 02:52 PM
sorry to hear ya not joining raul. See ya in the next HoF though

cricket
10-31-20, 05:24 PM
I happen to believe that An American Werewolf in London is a masterpiece, but if you go in looking for a comedy, I could understand a level of disappointment. It is a pure horror film, no more a horror/comedy than Die Hard is an action/comedy. It's just a well rounded film that happens to have humorous moments sprinkled in.

On the surface, A Matter of Life and Death is a great nomination for CR. However, the first thing I thought of was that he didn't like The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp in the last go around. Same directors and same era, there's bound to be some similarities. I happened to like both of them quite a bit and they are not necessarily my types of movies. Is this a case of standards and expectations? Idk. I still think they were both great picks for CR, they just didn't work out.

cricket
10-31-20, 05:26 PM
And regarding the song Werewolves in London not being in An American Werewolf in London, the lyrics are obviously a perfect fit, but I don't think the sound is.

Citizen Rules
10-31-20, 05:39 PM
On the surface, A Matter of Life and Death is a great nomination for CR. However, the first thing I thought of was that he didn't like The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp in the last go around.

Same directors and same era, there's bound to be some similarities. I happened to like both of them quite a bit and they are not necessarily my types of movies. Is this a case of standards and expectations? Idk. I still think they were both great picks for CR, they just didn't work out.Wow, I didn't know it was the same director, no wonder I didn't like it. British humor doesn't always work for me. I can't really think of a classic British comedy-drama that I liked.

cricket
10-31-20, 05:48 PM
Wow, I didn't know it was the same director, no wonder I didn't like it. British humor doesn't always work for me. I can't really think of a classic British comedy-drama that I liked.

There's 2 directors listed in the IMDb credits, same 2 for both movies.

Wyldesyde19
10-31-20, 05:51 PM
Went to my local rental and picked up Bambi, The Shape of Water and Dial M for Murder.
The Innocents that I had thought seen on display is actually a more recent French film of the same name. So I’ll probably look it up to rent on Amazon soon.
Sad face

Miss Vicky
10-31-20, 05:51 PM
I happen to believe that An American Werewolf in London is a masterpiece, but if you go in looking for a comedy, I could understand a level of disappointment. It is a pure horror film, no more a horror/comedy than Die Hard is an action/comedy. It's just a well rounded film that happens to have humorous moments sprinkled in.

I disagree that it's pure horror. It was definitely trying to be funny quite frequently, but failed to make me laugh. The fact that it was initially a nominee in the ill-fated original Comedy HOF tells me that the humor definitely works quite well for some other people.

As to "Werewolves of London," they played some pretty upbeat music over the end credits. I think it would've worked quite nicely in place of what they chose there.

cricket
10-31-20, 06:08 PM
I disagree that it's pure horror.

Many would agree with you. I agree with the director.

The fact that it was initially a nominee in the ill-fated original Comedy HOF tells me that the humor definitely works quite well for some other people.

It was kicked out for not being a comedy. Oh wait, I did that:D

edarsenal
10-31-20, 07:49 PM
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/AlarmingImmaculateHamadryad-size_restricted.gif


Cabaret

Brian Roberts: How's the, uh, gigolo campaign going?
Fritz Wendel: Terrible. This week, already I'm giving up three dinner invitations to spend thirty-two marks on her.
Brian Roberts: That's quite a sacrifice.
Fritz Wendel: And here's the craziness: I like it. God damn it!
Brian Roberts: What?
Fritz Wendel: I think I'm falling in love with her.
Brian Roberts: Oh, I'm so sorry.
Fritz Wendel: So am I.

Life is a cabaret old chum
so come to the cabaret

Watching the first episode of the mini-series Fosse/Verdon last night it featured some behind the scenes situations regarding this nomination so I just had to watch it today.

A sublime, melancholy film who's inner pain is given a kind of mercurial haven within the colorfully raunchy stage productions of the local Kit Kat Klub.
Reviving a Broadway production that was inspired by the true stories written by Christopher Isherwood about him and close friend, Jean Ross, during the 30's in Germany, Bob Fosse did an excellent vision of a truly dark lit, burlesque club and balanced it with two newly met friends (Liza Minnelli and Michael York) and their own tragic excursions with love. Giving the finale song, Cabaret a more ardent depth and meaning, it is no wonder that anyone of a theatrical nature attempting to pull themselves out from beneath one of life's emotional brutalities will sadly chuckle these words like a hymn.

An antithesis to the normal musical, there is no bright lights, or bright colors with every detail lit up for all to see. The numbers are of a garish nature befitting a small night club and that, I feel, brings even more life to them. Fosse with the un-credited assistance of his wife, Gwen Verdon brings forth a prolific musical that doesn't sugar coat the tragic while giving the broken heart a song it yearns to sing and a spotlight to hide in. albeit with a show must go on smile.

I F@CKIN LOVED IT

Wyldesyde19
10-31-20, 07:57 PM
Cabaret is a film i quite enjoyed, and could use a rewatch sometime.

cricket
10-31-20, 08:02 PM
Cabaret is a film i quite enjoyed, and could use a rewatch sometime.

Same here and I need to get to it because I've long thought it's a movie I should love.

Citizen Rules
10-31-20, 08:09 PM
Glad to hear you enjoyed Cabaret Ed. It's been decades since I last watched it but I remember it being pretty darn good. Of course with Bob Fosse how could it not?

cricket
10-31-20, 08:14 PM
That's a brilliant gif too

edarsenal
10-31-20, 08:49 PM
That's a brilliant gif too
Fully agree with ya all and yeah, I thought that gif really epitomizes the very heart of it. Being both the opening and the closing of the film.

Miss Vicky
10-31-20, 09:32 PM
I watched Cabaret back in 2016 and didn’t have much praise to give it. Somehow I still gave it a 3+. I must have been feeling really generous that day.

cricket
10-31-20, 10:26 PM
A Man and a Woman

https://cinematicscribblings.files.wordpress.com/2016/10/vlcsnap-2016-10-09-14h41m14s261.jpg?w=640

As I said before, I just discovered this movie in another thread just before the nominations were sent and I put it on my watchlist myself. I didn't realize it was on any MoFo list (Cannes'), or that it was an Academy Award winner (foreign film and screenplay). All of this is great but that doesn't mean it's a good nomination if I don't like it. Well it was a great nomination.

I'm not an expert on French new wave so I don't know if this is part of that. It felt like it was and I haven't seen one in a while, so that was a big factor in the film being a treat for me.

A man and a woman have both loved and tragically lost, they meet, and a new romance blooms. It's beautiful yet full of sorrow. It's hard to move on from grief and it shows. Everything is believable here. The current story is pretty minimalist but the flashbacks are not. I loved how the flashbacks were done; you could tell the characters were thinking back and you would see what they were thinking back of. The total package is very moving. It's a movie you need to feel and I felt it.

I was happy with everything; the performances, dialogue, style, and score. Some scenes were in color and some were in black and white. I believe this was due to budgetary restraints and if so it was a blessing in disguise. My rating is conservative.

4


Any guesses on who picked it for me?

rauldc14
10-31-20, 10:26 PM
I watched Cabaret back in 2016 and didn’t have much praise to give it. Somehow I still gave it a 3+. I must have been feeling really generous that day.

That seems super generous from you for this movie.

gbgoodies
11-01-20, 02:08 AM
I watched Finding Neverland last night and enjoyed it. Johnny Depp is really good at playing the offbeat but likeable character that follows his own vision instead of society's. Kate Winslet was likeable too, then again she's usually amiable in most of her films.

What I liked most was the insight into the playwright who penned Peter Pan. Yes it's sentimental, but what in the world is wrong with that? We see so many movies that revolve around the negative, that it's refreshing to see a film that channels more positive emotions.

What intrigued me was the few brief scenes of Peter Pan being performed on stage, that's what I want to see more of!

I had a feeling that you might like Finding Neverland. I'm not a big fan of Johnny Depp, but I think it's one of his best movies. Also I've seen Freddie Highmore in the TV shows "Bates Motel", and "The Good Doctor", so I also loved seeing him when he was so young. He's such a talented young actor.


Have you ever seen Peter Pan (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0287870/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_8) (1955) or Peter Pan (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0054176/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_4) (1960) both starring Mary Martin? I'm keen to watch those.

I've seen one version of Mary Martin's Peter Pan, but it was along time ago, and I'm not sure which year it was from. As I recall, it was okay, but I didn't love it.

I've also seen a version with Danny Kaye as Captain Hook. (I think it was from the mid-70s.) It has completely different songs, but nothing that stands out. I enjoyed that version mainly because of Danny Kaye. He has a uniqueness to him that makes everything he does worth watching.

gbgoodies
11-01-20, 02:13 AM
I actually don't dislike Robin Williams per say. It's just in some of his movies he goes way over top...which some folks like and some don't. I use to like him as a talk show guest on late night talk shows. I think in more serious movie roles he could be great. I haven't seen him in much so Good Will Hunting will be a good one for me to watch. I'd also like to see Williams in One Hour Photo, I've heard good things about that one.


I'm not a big fan of either Matt Damon or Ben Affleck, (but I don't dislike either of them), and I love Good Will Hunting. It's my second favorite Robin Williams movie, just behind Dead Poets Society.

gbgoodies
11-01-20, 02:15 AM
I'm OK with Matt Damon, he seems kinda boring usually. But I suppose for this kind of role that might work out. I did like his movie about people being made small, I forget what it's called.


I haven't seen it, but I think it's called Downsizing.

gbgoodies
11-01-20, 02:26 AM
The fact that it was initially a nominee in the ill-fated original Comedy HOF tells me that the humor definitely works quite well for some other people.

It was kicked out for not being a comedy. Oh wait, I did that:D


Actually, the movie that caused the problem in the Comedy HoF was Braindead (also known as Dead Alive), not An American Werewolf in London. I think Swan was the one who nominated An American Werewolf in London, and he wasn't asked to change it. He offered to change it, and I told him not to.

cricket
11-01-20, 08:10 AM
Actually, the movie that caused the problem in the Comedy HoF was Braindead (also known as Dead Alive), not An American Werewolf in London. I think Swan was the one who nominated An American Werewolf in London, and he wasn't asked to change it. He offered to change it, and I told him not to.

Haha the way I remembered it was that I hosted it but that wouldn't have made sense. Nobody could forget the controversy with you and Braindead, but I also remember you not having an issue with American Werewolf because you had already seen it. I ended up getting into a smaller debate about it after your big dust up. 2 different issues for 2 different reasons.

Thursday Next
11-01-20, 11:43 AM
Let the Right One In

Oskar is a lonely boy. No friends, his parents are divorced and hardly interact with him as far as I could tell. He’s bullied. One day he meets what he thinks is a girl, Eli. Eli harbors a secret, one that is both terrifying and sinister.
One that forces Eli into an even lonelier existence.
What developes between is a friendship. They need each other, more then they’re aware of. And they accept each other as they are.
For a vampire film, it isn’t interested in being conventional. Which works for this film. A straight horror film would have been unwise . LTROI is about the emotional bond between the two children, and so it wisely focuses on them. It does remain true to its horror elements, however.
The scenes are wonderfully shot, from the opening snowfall in the dark, to Eli’s eyes mysteriously glowing in the dark before a Oskar turns on the light and we catch a glimpse as they return to normal.
Throughout the film I was struck by this sadness and loneliness with Eli, and wish we could have learned more about Eli’s past.
It’s a good pick, and one I have been wanting to see for a long time now, since it’s first release in fact.
Thank you, I’m guessing...Thursday Next?

It was not my pick for you, but it is an excellent movie and I'm glad you enjoyed it :)

Thursday Next
11-01-20, 11:59 AM
My input on Hook... I liked it a lot as a child, but not sure how well it would stand up watching it now.

Miss Vicky
11-01-20, 12:13 PM
Haha the way I remembered it was that I hosted it but that wouldn't have made sense. Nobody could forget the controversy with you and Braindead, but I also remember you not having an issue with American Werewolf because you had already seen it. I ended up getting into a smaller debate about it after your big dust up. 2 different issues for 2 different reasons.

Justin hosted it. (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=42080) GBG is correct that Swan chose American Werewolf.

Your nomination, Happiness, was far more disturbing than either of the horror comedies.

Citizen Rules
11-01-20, 01:04 PM
A Man and a Woman

I'm not an expert on French new wave so I don't know if this is part of that. It felt like it was and I haven't seen one in a while, so that was a big factor in the film being a treat for me.

A man and a woman have both loved and tragically lost, they meet, and a new romance blooms. It's beautiful yet full of sorrow. It's hard to move on from grief and it shows. Everything is believable here. The current story is pretty minimalist but the flashbacks are not. I loved how the flashbacks were done; you could tell the characters were thinking back and you would see what they were thinking back of. The total package is very moving. It's a movie you need to feel and I felt it.

I was happy with everything; the performances, dialogue, style, and score. Some scenes were in color and some were in black and white. I believe this was due to budgetary restraints and if so it was a blessing in disguise. My rating is conservative.rating_4

Any guesses on who picked it for me?My guess is Siddon picked it for you, as he's both well watched and has diverse film taste.

Man and Woman sounds like a film I'd liked to have seen chose for me.

cricket
11-01-20, 01:42 PM
Justin hosted it. (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=42080) GBG is correct that Swan chose American Werewolf.

Your nomination, Happiness, was far more disturbing than either of the horror comedies.

Yep I remember it was Swan I was debating about it, but nobody had an issue with American Werewolf's content, just its genre classification.

You like Happiness?

Siddon
11-01-20, 01:48 PM
My guess is Siddon picked it for you, as he's both well watched and has diverse film taste.

Man and Woman sounds like a film I'd liked to have seen chose for me.


Nope I picked something special for Cricket, last time I tried to picked from every list this year I did something more specific.

Miss Vicky
11-01-20, 02:47 PM
You like Happiness?

No.

Siddon
11-01-20, 03:35 PM
You like Happiness?



No.




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cricket
11-01-20, 04:21 PM
:rotfl:

Hey Fredrick
11-01-20, 06:11 PM
So I planned on watching The Killers this morning. Woke up, reset all the clocks, drank my coffee then headed downstairs to watch The Killers in the movie watching room, sit down crank up the Criterion Channel and....it's GONE! It was there ten hours ago! SOB! So, I ended up watching:

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Hedwig and the Angry Inch

So, yeah. When you plan on watching a 1940's film noir that's no longer available the next best thing is a 2001 musical about a transexual East German rock singer with mommy, daddy, boyfriend, husband, professional and body issues (hence the Angry Inch). Makes sense to me.

Hedwig seems to get screwed, in the bad way, at every opportunity and it's been happening FOREVER! All she wants is to be whole again. We learn this mostly through flashbacks which are often times hilariously sad. At the same time her band is currently touring the country playing a chain of ****ty restaurants in front of small, aging crowds and dealing with the fact that the ONE that got away, got away with all the songs she wrote and is a now a major star on the strength of them songs. So, on the surface this sounds like it should be a fairly depressing flick except that it's not. Not really. In fact, I found myself smiling quite often. It gets a little misty towards the end, I guess or maybe I completely missed the point and if I did so what? I enjoyed what I got from it. I'm sure if I watched it again I'd pick up on a few of the smaller things.

Hedwig is a musical so how's the music? Not bad. I would say I enjoyed most of the songs with my favorite being the Wig in the Box(?) (kicking out the ONE light bulb cracked me up for some reason) production number and the Angry Inch is memorable as well. The performances at the restaurants are all pretty funny, sometimes hilarious. The thing with the songs is they are part of the story. Listen to the words and you get the insight.

Hedwig is a very interesting character which is good because it's a movie about Hedwig. She's a lot more complex than I expected and the movie is well written. I think the underlying story is something most people would get into but the wrapping, unfortunately, may hold some back from seeing this. I really liked this and would highly recommend it. My guess is this is a Miss Vicky nomination.

cricket
11-01-20, 06:25 PM
That will rank high for me whenever we do a musical countdown.

neiba
11-01-20, 07:15 PM
Let the Right One In

Oskar is a lonely boy. No friends, his parents are divorced and hardly interact with him as far as I could tell. He’s bullied. One day he meets what he thinks is a girl, Eli. Eli harbors a secret, one that is both terrifying and sinister.
One that forces Eli into an even lonelier existence.
What developes between is a friendship. They need each other, more then they’re aware of. And they accept each other as they are.
For a vampire film, it isn’t interested in being conventional. Which works for this film. A straight horror film would have been unwise . LTROI is about the emotional bond between the two children, and so it wisely focuses on them. It does remain true to its horror elements, however.
The scenes are wonderfully shot, from the opening snowfall in the dark, to Eli’s eyes mysteriously glowing in the dark before a Oskar turns on the light and we catch a glimpse as they return to normal.
Throughout the film I was struck by this sadness and loneliness with Eli, and wish we could have learned more about Eli’s past.
It’s a good pick, and one I have been wanting to see for a long time now, since it’s first release in fact.
Thank you, I’m guessing...Thursday Next?

Glad you liked it! :) That was my choice for you!

Wyldesyde19
11-01-20, 07:21 PM
Glad you liked it! :) That was my choice for you!
I was thinking it may have been, and it was a great choice!

Miss Vicky
11-01-20, 09:10 PM
I really liked this and would highly recommend it. My guess is this is a Miss Vicky nomination.

Yes! This is the one huge exception to the "Miss Vicky hates musicals" rule (at least as far as live action movies go). It's a top ten movie for me and I'm thrilled you enjoyed it! "Wig in a Box" is my favorite song in the movie as well, but I adore the whole soundtrack and even bought it on CD.

I actually nominated it in one of the general HOFs and, as expected, it got some pretty mixed reactions. I was a little hesitant picking it for anybody here, but I remembered you liking Pink Flamingos and I hoped it meant you didn't have an issue with drag. Glad to see you don't. :)

Wyldesyde19
11-01-20, 11:30 PM
Dial M for Murder

Margot Mary Wendice: Do you really believe in the perfect murder?
Mark Halliday: Mmm, yes, absolutely. On paper, that is. And I think I could, uh, plan one better than most people; but I doubt if I could carry it out.
Tony Wendice: Oh? Why not?
Mark Halliday: Well, because in stories things usually turn out the way the author wants them to; and in real life they don't... always.

Murder plots never work out the way one plans it. We’ve seen enough movies to know that.
Yet Tony (played superbly by Ray Milland) comes damn close.
He wants to hire an acquaintance to murder his wife for a an affair from a year ago. The murder doesn’t go right. Now he has to manipulate the investigation into his favor, while covering up his involvement
But that’s all dressing. It’s the script and dialogue that crackles here. The conversations that take place between Tony and his accomplice, the final reveal and discussion between Mark and the Chief Investigator (Robert Cummings and John Williams respectively, both giving great performances with what little screen time they have) on how it was accomplished. Grace Kelly looks marvelous here, as the wife caught between the two men, and who of course is great in what little there is written for her role. And of course all things Ray Milland.
Milland delivers his lines with a sadistic glee, secretly enjoying his wife’s torment and subsequent arrest and conviction. This is his movie, and he owns every minute he is on screen.
Especially the end, where he’s cornered, and rather then trying to make a run of it, or some final shootout to escape, he just calmly makes a drink for himself before offering one for everyone else before uttering “As you said, Mark, it might work on paper, but......”

This is such a great film. I want to see it again as soon as I finished it! It’s only one watch, but I would certainly rank it amongst Hitch’s top films!
Thank you....Cricket? Perhaps?

Hey Fredrick
11-02-20, 09:33 AM
I remembered you liking Pink Flamingos and I hoped it meant you didn't have an issue with drag. Glad to see you don't. :)

Haha! I respected Pink Flamingos for it's willingness to go all out in terms of extreme bad taste. It's really hard to enjoy a movie like that but it did induce some uncomfortable laughter a few times. I don't have any problem with drag or any LGBTQ movies except that it seems they're usually love stories which I don't really enjoy in any form.

Miss Vicky
11-02-20, 11:08 AM
Haha! I respected Pink Flamingos for it's willingness to go all out in terms of extreme bad taste.

I think Pink Flamingos is a steaming pile of dog s***, but I was reaching for some clue of what to pick. :laugh:

I don't have any problem with drag or any LGBTQ movies except that it seems they're usually love stories which I don't really enjoy in any form.

They definitely do tend to be love stories and the ones that aren't - at least of the ones I've seen - seem to either be about discrimination, the AIDS crisis, or both. If we do another one of these, I'll definitely have to keep in mind that you're not a fan of romance. It's just dumb luck that the movies I've picked for you aren't love stories.

cricket
11-02-20, 02:39 PM
No I didn't nominate Dial M for Murder for you Wyldesyde but that's a good guess. I strongly considered doing so as it's my favorite Hitchcock besides Rebecca.

Wyldesyde19
11-02-20, 03:45 PM
Then my next guess is CR 🙂

gbgoodies
11-03-20, 01:46 AM
Haha the way I remembered it was that I hosted it but that wouldn't have made sense. Nobody could forget the controversy with you and Braindead, but I also remember you not having an issue with American Werewolf because you had already seen it. I ended up getting into a smaller debate about it after your big dust up. 2 different issues for 2 different reasons.


No, jiraffejustin hosted it, and he was the one who nominated Dead Alive. And just for the record, I never asked him to change his nom. I just immediately dropped out of the HoF as soon as he posted the nominations.

My "big dust up" came after that when I started a new thread asking that the nominations should fit the theme of the HoF. I got attacked so badly in that thread (and in PMs) that I left the forum for a few months.

cricket
11-03-20, 06:36 AM
No, jiraffejustin hosted it, and he was the one who nominated Dead Alive. And just for the record, I never asked him to change his nom. I just immediately dropped out of the HoF as soon as he posted the nominations.

My "big dust up" came after that when I started a new thread asking that the nominations should fit the theme of the HoF. I got attacked so badly in that thread (and in PMs) that I left the forum for a few months.

Yep I got all that. My initial recollection was that I hosted but I quickly realized it was JJ.

Miss Vicky
11-03-20, 11:04 AM
Dead Alive did fit the theme of that HoF.

Citizen Rules
11-03-20, 11:31 AM
Yep I got all that. My initial recollection was that I hosted but I quickly realized it was JJ.I'm probably the only person who knows why you're thinking/saying that. But actually I hosted;)

cricket
11-03-20, 11:55 AM
I'm probably the only person who knows why you're thinking/saying that. But actually I hosted;)

Wow one of the most disastrous threads in Moe pho history and you were responsible!

Citizen Rules
11-03-20, 12:01 PM
Wow one of the most disastrous threads in Moe pho history and you were responsible!Ha, who knew!:D

Miss Vicky
11-03-20, 12:03 PM
I'd say a good portion of the responsibility for that thread turning into a s***-show goes to Sexy Celebrity for sticking his nose where it doesn't belong, as usual.

Citizen Rules
11-03-20, 12:10 PM
I'd say a good portion of the responsibility for that thread turning into a s***-show goes to Sexy Celebrity for sticking his nose where it doesn't belong, as usual.I totally agree with you, it was Sexy Celebrity stirring up s***

cricket
11-03-20, 12:17 PM
I'd say a good portion of the responsibility for that thread turning into a s***-show goes to Sexy Celebrity for sticking his nose where it doesn't belong, as usual.

I totally agree with you, it was Sexy Celebrity stirring up s***

He will appreciate the mentions

Citizen Rules
11-03-20, 12:27 PM
He will appreciate the mentionsI'd call him out for stirring the pot in that thread. He was like the Donald Trump of MoFo.

cricket
11-03-20, 12:41 PM
I'd call him out for stirring the pot in that thread. He was like the Donald Trump of MoFo.

Now you're really giving him joy

Frightened Inmate No. 2
11-03-20, 12:43 PM
A Man and a Woman

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As I said before, I just discovered this movie in another thread just before the nominations were sent and I put it on my watchlist myself. I didn't realize it was on any MoFo list (Cannes'), or that it was an Academy Award winner (foreign film and screenplay). All of this is great but that doesn't mean it's a good nomination if I don't like it. Well it was a great nomination.

I'm not an expert on French new wave so I don't know if this is part of that. It felt like it was and I haven't seen one in a while, so that was a big factor in the film being a treat for me.

A man and a woman have both loved and tragically lost, they meet, and a new romance blooms. It's beautiful yet full of sorrow. It's hard to move on from grief and it shows. Everything is believable here. The current story is pretty minimalist but the flashbacks are not. I loved how the flashbacks were done; you could tell the characters were thinking back and you would see what they were thinking back of. The total package is very moving. It's a movie you need to feel and I felt it.

I was happy with everything; the performances, dialogue, style, and score. Some scenes were in color and some were in black and white. I believe this was due to budgetary restraints and if so it was a blessing in disguise. My rating is conservative.

4


Any guesses on who picked it for me?

glad you liked it. i had never really heard of it until i went with a friend to a screening at the chicago film festival a few years ago where director claude lelouch happened to be in attendance and did a q&a afterwards. we were both pretty blown away by how beautiful the film was. your post got me to read more about the movie and apparently lelouch made another sequel last year with both jean-louis trintignant and anouk aimee reprising their roles.

cricket
11-03-20, 03:08 PM
glad you liked it. i had never really heard of it until i went with a friend to a screening at the chicago film festival a few years ago where director claude lelouch happened to be in attendance and did a q&a afterwards. we were both pretty blown away by how beautiful the film was. your post got me to read more about the movie and apparently lelouch made another sequel last year with both jean-louis trintignant and anouk aimee reprising their roles.

It was a great choice, now you're 2 for 2 picking for me.

Wyldesyde19
11-04-20, 02:01 AM
Bambi


Drip drip drop, little April Showers...

I recently watched a Siskel and Ebert review of Bambi and listened to them talk about the famous scene involving Man killing Bambi’s mother. The question was is it too dark for children and what is the cut off age?
This does have some dark elements to it, but those are honestly the best scenes. The first encounter with Man. The forest on fire. And of course, Bambi’s loss of innocence upon learning of his mother’s death. These scenes are all important. And they’re balanced nicely by cute scenes with Bambi and his friends, Flower and Thumper. Touching scenes between Bambi and Faline and of course, his mother.
The drawing is well done and ha s always impressed me when it comes to early Disney.
But it’s the emotion that Bambi evokes that makes this so touching. Bout of the early Disney films I’ve seen, which isn’t a lot, I’d rate it higher then Peter Pan, The Jungle Book, Pinocchio, and 101 Dalmatians.
Good pick.
This will rank highly on my ballot.

Miss Vicky
11-04-20, 03:15 AM
Glad you liked it, Wylde.

I considered picking Dumbo for you instead because it’s also beautifully animated, packs a pretty good emotional punch, and isn’t something I picked for anyone last time, but its racist elements drag it down a bit and Bambi has always been my favorite classic Disney anyway. Flower is just too damn cute.


I watched a movie for this as well tonight, but I probably won’t post a review until tomorrow.

rauldc14
11-04-20, 03:47 AM
Dumbo has racist elements?

Wyldesyde19
11-04-20, 04:35 AM
Dumbo has racist elements?
The crows are racist caricatures.

Edit: I have not seen the movie, so I don’t know how I feel one way or the other, so the opinion noted above isn’t necessarily one I share until I’ve actually seen it and determined it for myself.

cricket
11-04-20, 09:29 AM
I've always had a soft spot for Bambi. Glad to see it get some love.

rauldc14
11-04-20, 10:15 AM
The crows are racist caricatures.

Edit: I have not seen the movie, so I don’t know how I feel one way or the other, so the opinion noted above isn’t necessarily one I share until I’ve actually seen it and determined it for myself.

Never knew why?

Citizen Rules
11-04-20, 12:17 PM
Never knew why?I've seen the original Dumbo in the last year. I'm not sure the crows where meant to be racist. I think that's more a 21st century perception of the movie. I don't know this for a fact, but I believe that the two crows are based on the popular radio program of the time, Amos & Andy.

Wyldesyde19
11-04-20, 01:13 PM
I've seen the original Dumbo in the last year. I'm not sure the crows where meant to be racist. I think that's more a 21st century perception of the movie. I don't know this for a fact, but I believe that the two crows are based on the popular radio program of the time, Amos & Andy.
It definitely isn’t a 21st century as there were enough claims that during a 1950’s re release, they changed the name of the one Crow and in the 1960’s it had been addressed in a book.
For what it’s worth, there are some critics who believe that they weren’t necessarily racist. Until I’ve seen it, I can’t say myself however.
Anyways, I don’t want to derail the thread over it.

Miss Vicky
11-04-20, 01:40 PM
Besides being racist caricature, Jim Crow was voiced by a white man.

Citizen Rules
11-04-20, 04:23 PM
It definitely isn’t a 21st century as there were enough claims that during a 1950’s re release, they changed the name of the one Crow and in the 1960’s it had been addressed in a book.
For what it’s worth, there are some critics who believe that they weren’t necessarily racist. Until I’ve seen it, I can’t say myself however.
Anyways, I don’t want to derail the thread over it.I didn't know that about the 1950s controversy. I didn't remember what the crows said but they did stand out to me. However I didn't see them as racist, maybe they're a stereo type caricature.

edarsenal
11-04-20, 07:54 PM
Bambi


Drip drip drop, little April Showers...

I recently watched a Siskel and Ebert review of Bambi and listened to them talk about the famous scene involving Man killing Bambi’s mother. The question was is it too dark for children and what is the cut off age?
This does have some dark elements to it, but those are honestly the best scenes. The first encounter with Man. The forest on fire. And of course, Bambi’s loss of innocence upon learning of his mother’s death. These scenes are all important. And they’re balanced nicely by cute scenes with Bambi and his friends, Flower and Thumper. Touching scenes between Bambi and Faline and of course, his mother.
The drawing is well done and ha s always impressed me when it comes to early Disney.
But it’s the emotion that Bambi evokes that makes this so touching. Bout of the early Disney films I’ve seen, which isn’t a lot, I’d rate it higher then Peter Pan, The Jungle Book, Pinocchio, and 101 Dalmatians.
Good pick.
This will rank highly on my ballot.
Not sure if I've ever met someone who DIDN'T enjoy Bambi. Glad to hear it.
I had made a similar remark reviewing Snow White in the 18th HoF: "Something I've always admired is the artistic creativity of delving into the pure heart of Goodness AS WELL as the disturbing soul of Evil with equal dedication."

edarsenal
11-04-20, 07:57 PM
Racist or not, the Crows were my favorite song and the most memorable. I still quote the opening lines:
I seen a peanut stand, I heard a rubber band
I seen a needle that winked its eye
But I be done seen 'bout ev'rything
When I see a elephant fly

Though I CANNOT watch Dumbo because of this scene where I start bawling even before it shows up
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I'm already getting weepy just thinking about it

Miss Vicky
11-04-20, 08:07 PM
For the record, I do still love Dumbo in spite of its racism. It's just that I don't love it as much as I did as a child because adult me understands what's happening and I can't ignore it. I do kind of regret mentioning it though as the discussion has focused more on Dumbo than on Bambi and Dumbo wasn't a nominee.

edarsenal
11-04-20, 08:33 PM
your right.
Back to the forest where spring and love is a . . . well, thumping
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Citizen Rules
11-04-20, 10:37 PM
Dial M for Murder
I've seen this a couple of times and sorta, kinda liked it. I didn't think much of Grace Kelly in it, though she gets much better later in her career. I thought Robert Cummings was unbelievable as her romantic interest. But Ray Milland was a stand out in this for sure. He was personable and interesting and gave the film some needed weight. Ray Milland is one of my favorite actors btw. I probably need to see it again someday. Glad you liked it! I can't confirm or deny if it was my choice for you:p

Citizen Rules
11-04-20, 10:50 PM
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The Iron Giant

I liked this. It was a fun, easy watch. I was most impressed by the 1950s decor. I just love the 50s...anyway my favorite part was when the robot goes ballistic and starts vaporizing the attacking army vehicles. I kinda hoped the film would end with Hogart being wrong about the iron giant, and the truth was the iron giant was sent to annihilate humankind. Well that didn't happen but I still liked it.

My guess is Miss Vicky? or maybe Wyldsyde?

edarsenal
11-04-20, 10:55 PM
surprisingly I still haven't seen Iron Giant. Glad to hear to you enjoyed it

Citizen Rules
11-04-20, 10:59 PM
surprisingly I still haven't seen Iron Giant. Glad to hear to you enjoyed itYou were my other guess as to who nominated it. Oh, forget to say how much the robot looked like the cover of Queen's News of the World, except for the face, but the torso was similar.

Wyldesyde19
11-04-20, 11:19 PM
I've seen this a couple of times and sorta, kinda liked it. I didn't think much of Grace Kelly in it, though she gets much better later in her career. I thought Robert Cummings was unbelievable as her romantic interest. But Ray Milland was a stand out in this for sure. He was personable and interesting and gave the film some needed weight. Ray Milland is one of my favorite actors btw. I probably need to see it again someday. Glad you liked it! I can't confirm or deny if it was my choice for you:p

I agree with you that it isn’t her best, but I thought she was decent in it. I put that on a weak character that was never really fleshed out further then “woman in peril”.
Milland was so great, and I need to see more of his work stat.

Citizen Rules
11-04-20, 11:34 PM
I agree with you that it isn’t her best, but I thought she was decent in it. I put that on a weak character that was never really fleshed out further then “woman in peril”.
Milland was so great, and I need to see more of his work stat.I've considered a Ray Milland film or two for an HoF. Have you seen him in anything else?

Miss Vicky
11-04-20, 11:42 PM
My guess is Miss Vicky? or maybe Wyldsyde?

It wasn't me. I gave you an animated movie last time only because I gave everyone animation last time. My pick for you this time is a movie that I like, but not one that I think anybody would associate with me.

Citizen Rules
11-04-20, 11:45 PM
It wasn't me. I gave you an animated movie last time only because I gave everyone animation last time. My pick for you this time is a movie that I like, but not one that I think anybody would associate with me.I wasn't totally sure because you said you had went differently this time on your noms. I'm guessing then you went with Midnight Cowboy for me.

Miss Vicky
11-04-20, 11:58 PM
68732

The Maltese Falcon (John Huston, 1941)
Imdb (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0033870/?ref_=fn_al_tt_2)

Date Watched: 11/3/2020
Cinema or Home: Home
Reason For Watching: The Personal Recommendation Hall of Fame II, I think maybe Citizen nominated it?
Rewatch: No.

I don't really have a whole lot to say about this one. I was somewhat hopeful for it because it's pretty short, the premise seemed interesting enough, and I liked Humphrey Bogart in Casablanca.

Well... I really didn't like anything about it. I lost interest in the premise pretty early on, thought the "knock-out" femme fatale Mary Astor was only average looking, and found both the score and the characters annoying - Bogart's "Samuel Spade" most of all. I spent the whole run of the movie wanting to punch that smugness right off his face.

I will grant though that watching this on election night when I was perhaps a bit overly stressed might not have given it the best opportunity to impress me, but c'est la vie. I doubt I would've enjoyed it even without any kind of distraction.

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Miss Vicky
11-04-20, 11:59 PM
I'm guessing then you went with Midnight Cowboy for me.

Nope, that wasn't my pick for you either.

Siddon
11-05-20, 12:02 AM
https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=68732

The Maltese Falcon (John Huston, 1941)
Imdb (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0033870/?ref_=fn_al_tt_2)

Date Watched: 11/3/2020
Cinema or Home: Home
Reason For Watching: The Personal Recommendation Hall of Fame II, I think maybe Citizen nominated it?
Rewatch: No.

I don't really have a whole lot to say about this one. I was somewhat hopeful for it because it's pretty short, the premise seemed interesting enough, and I liked Humphrey Bogart in Casablanca.

Well... I really didn't like anything about it. I lost interest in the premise pretty early on, thought the "knock-out" femme fatale Mary Astor was only average looking, and found both the score and the characters annoying - Bogart's "Samuel Spade" most of all. I spent the whole run of the movie wanting to punch that smugness right off his face.

I will grant though that watching this on election night when I was perhaps a bit overly stressed might not have given it the best opportunity to impress me, but c'est la vie. I doubt I would've enjoyed it even without any kind of distraction.

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Yeah you likely need to watch that one twice, noirs like that you really need to be in the right mindset (BTW I did not nominate this for you)

edarsenal
11-05-20, 03:56 PM
You were my other guess as to who nominated it. Oh, forget to say how much the robot looked like the cover of Queen's News of the World, except for the face, but the torso was similar.
I've thought the same thing myself

and nope it wasn't me. I picked Peter Pan for ya

edarsenal
11-05-20, 04:04 PM
yeah, Siddon didn't nominate that one for ya Vicky, I did.
Like CR, I had a second nomination for you that, after I sent it in, I kept thinking: I really should switch 'em and of course, did not.
Like you had mentioned, you like Casablanca, Maltese Falcon SHOULD have a decent chance.
"C'est la vie" yes, indeed. :shrug:

Citizen Rules
11-05-20, 04:11 PM
I've thought the same thing myself
and nope it wasn't me. I picked Peter Pan for yaOh yeah I remember you said that you chose Peter Pan for me, I meant to say when I first seen my movies to watch list, I had thought you might have went with Iron Giant.

Citizen Rules
11-05-20, 04:15 PM
I'm a fan of The Maltese Falcon, but I like Casablanca more...But for me anything with Bogart is good, even his notoriously bad movie, which is so bad it's good!

Miss Vicky
11-05-20, 04:30 PM
yeah, Siddon didn't nominate that one for ya Vicky, I did.


Well you're pretty consistent in picking movies that I don't like. :laugh:
If it's any consolation, it'll probably rank higher than Blue Velvet. Maybe there will be others that I dislike even more?

Wyldesyde19
11-05-20, 04:54 PM
I love The Maltese Falcon, but it isn’t as good as Casablanca, yes.
No one has seen any of my picks yet 😎

Citizen Rules
11-05-20, 05:31 PM
I love The Maltese Falcon, but it isn’t as good as Casablanca, yes.
No one has seen any of my picks yet 😎I might have watched one of yours last night? I'll post my write up tonight.

Hey Fredrick
11-05-20, 08:44 PM
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The Iron Giant

I liked this. It was a fun, easy watch. I was most impressed by the 1950s decor. I just love the 50s...anyway my favorite part was when the robot goes ballistic and starts vaporizing the attacking army vehicles. I kinda hoped the film would end with Hogart being wrong about the iron giant, and the truth was the iron giant was sent to annihilate humankind. Well that didn't happen but I still liked it.

My guess is Miss Vicky? or maybe Wyldsyde?



Haven't seen this in years but I remember liking it a lot. For some reason most animated movies, even ones I really enjoy, seem to have a flow problem. They bog down at some point or have a scene or two that just brings the movie to a screeching halt but I don't remember anything like that in The Iron Giant. It had, I guess, a good flow. Also remember it being pretty funny at times.

Citizen Rules
11-05-20, 10:59 PM
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Brighton Rock (1948)

I wasn't planning on watching these movies so fast, but I wanted to watch something the other night and I had this ready to go. Anyway thanks to whoever picked this. They must have known I liked noir, so it was a good choice...And I had planned on watching it someday anyway. With that said, I didn't care for it. I didn't hate it, it was as my wife described the movie: 'stilted'. To me it just felt staged and unbelievable, especially the 17 year old Pinkie played by a very young Richard Attenbourgh. I just didn't buy his hold over the older gangsters, nor did I buy the instant love the waitress felt for him.

I did enjoy watching the real location at Brighton Rock captured in 1948. For me those real life scenes were the best part.

I'm not Catholic and I'm not religious but didn't the ending show the waitress girl refusing Absolution so that she could spend eternity in Purgatory with Pinkie? And I read that was a happy ending? Did I miss something? Can anyone explain how that works?

rauldc14
11-05-20, 11:13 PM
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Peter Pan (1953)

Other than Tinker Bell I didn't care about any of the characters in Peter Pan and I had expected this to be my favorite classic Disney animated film. Not that I've seen many of them. It wasn't until after I joined MoFo that I watched my very first, Fantasia. Unlike Bambi where I actually cared about the animals and their forest home...with Peter Pan I could care less about Wendy or her brothers...one of who must've been the inspiration for the Harry Potter series of novels.

At a scant 1 hour 17 minutes, there wasn't enough time to include any needed back story as to who Wendy was and why she needed to believe so readily in a fairy tale, aka Peter Pan. I wonder what the original British stage play of 1903 was like? It must have been written for adults as stage plays for children in 1903 were unheard of. There's still a bit of adult musings in this G rated Disney film, mostly apparent in the antics of Tinker Bell. Tinker is a tiny hottie, who's concerned that her hips are too big and is jealous of Wendy to the point of trying to annihilate her. Tinker is quite impish and that was refreshing for what otherwise is a kids movie. I got a kick out of the many different means she took to keep Wendy apart from her crush, Peter.

Well that's four classic Disney animated films I've seen. So far I haven't loved any of them. I'm not a big fan of animated films, though they are a few animated films I've rated 5/5 Spirited Away being my favorite


I thought you liked Great Mouse Detective

Citizen Rules
11-05-20, 11:18 PM
I thought you liked Great Mouse Detective It was OK, it had it's moments. So far all the recent animated films I've seen are like a 3/5 for me.

HashtagBrownies
11-06-20, 07:58 AM
And I read that was a happy ending? Did I miss something? Can anyone explain how that works?

Where did you read that? I always considered it a sad ending.

Funnily enough the ending was changed to that due to censorship. i guess the producers considered this happy? Even though it's arguably even more tragic than the original ending.

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Citizen Rules
11-06-20, 10:44 AM
Where did you read that? I always considered it a sad ending.

Funnily enough the ending was changed to that due to censorship. i guess the producers considered this happy? Even though it's arguably even more tragic than the original ending.

https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=68751I read it at IMDB
SPOILERS

This movie was meant to end with Rose listening to the poisonous recording made by Pinkie, which contained the line, "You asked me to make a record of me voice; well, here it is. What you want me to say is 'I love you'. Here's the truth: I hate you, you little slut . . . " However, Writer Graham Greene felt the ending would be vetoed by the British Board of Film Censors, so he wrote a happy ending. In this version, the movie ends with the record needle getting stuck and repeating the phrase "I love you . . . " The camera then tilts up to a crucifix, suggesting Rose's salvation. Greene has been quoted as noting, "Anybody who had any sense would know that next time Rose would probably push the needle over the scratch and get the full message."

Citizen Rules
11-06-20, 10:47 AM
Well that's four classic Disney animated films I've seen. So far I haven't loved any of them. I'm not a big fan of animated films, though they are a few animated films I've rated 5/5 Spirited Away being my favorite.

I thought you liked Great Mouse DetectiveThe four classics I referred to watching was: Snow White, Fantasia, Bambi, Peter Pan.

rauldc14
11-06-20, 12:41 PM
Ah. Thought u meant animated classics

cricket
11-06-20, 09:01 PM
I can't remember Brighton Rock because I watched so much noir for the 40's and 50's countdowns. A lot of them blend together in my memory. I'm sure I liked it, especially since someone thought it was good enough to include here.

The Iron Giant made my Animation ballot-good pick there.


I've seen The Maltese Falcon 3 or 4 times. It's good, but I liked it more when I was younger.

Wyldesyde19
11-06-20, 09:05 PM
Whenever we get to the Noir Countdown, I plan on viewing Brighton Rock among eventually.
Wasn’t there a remake of it a few years ago?

Citizen Rules
11-06-20, 09:48 PM
Whenever we get to the Noir Countdown, I plan on viewing Brighton Rock among eventually.
Wasn’t there a remake of it a few years ago?There was a remake of it. Haven't seen it but it's rated fairly low on IMDB. Still it might be better than the original, at least according to my noir-ish taste:p

Thursday Next
11-07-20, 04:39 AM
Brighton Rock was my pick for you Citizen, I'm sorry you didn't like it more, I was so sure that would be your kind of film! I don't think it's stilted at all, but it seems to be a common complaint about British films from the 40s (I seem to remember some people said the same about Brief Encounter in one of the previous halls of fame). I guess it's the accents!

There is a 2010 version with some good actors in it but it is a bit of a dud.

I'd recommend the book instead. Graham Greene also wrote the screenplay for The Third Man and there have been a few other good films based on his books like The End of the Affair and The Quiet American. He was also a film critic in the 30s.

Citizen Rules
11-07-20, 12:17 PM
Brighton Rock was my pick for you Citizen, I'm sorry you didn't like it more, I was so sure that would be your kind of film! I don't think it's stilted at all, but it seems to be a common complaint about British films from the 40s (I seem to remember some people said the same about Brief Encounter in one of the previous halls of fame). I guess it's the accents!Brighton Rock was a good guess for me. I even thought it might be a favorite of mine. Sorry I didn't like it more, but I'm glad to have seen it.

I haven't liked the last few 40s British films I've seen, including A Matter of Life and Death (1946) which also was chose for me. And in the 1st PR someone chose The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp (1943) and I didn't like that either. But I have loved British films too. I didn't like Brief Encounter when you nominated it, but in retrospect I think I was too harsh on the film, I would like to see that one again.

For me British (or Scottish or Irish or Australian) strong accents, makes it really hard for me to understand what's being said. In the opening scene of Brighton Rock I only caught about half the dialogue and didn't know what was going on, which makes getting into the film hard for me. I wish I had subtitles but I didn't. So yeah the language barrier is a factor.

Thursday Next
11-07-20, 01:59 PM
For me British (or Scottish or Irish or Australian) strong accents, makes it really hard for me to understand what's being said. In the opening scene of Brighton Rock I only caught about half the dialogue and didn't know what was going on, which makes getting into the film hard for me. I wish I had subtitles but I didn't. So yeah the language barrier is a factor.


I often watch English language films with subtitles because I don't always hear what is being said - it's a combination of sound levels in the film, actors mumbling, my hearing and the accents! For me, it's certain American accents that are the hardest to understand. Films like No Country For Old Men have me reaching for the subtitle button on the remote.

I think for the next hall of fame I will have to nominate you Trainspotting and see how you get on with the accents in that :D

Thursday Next
11-07-20, 02:02 PM
Working Girl

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Sorry to whoever picked this for me, but it just wasn’t my sort of film.

For a start it was all very dated. The farcical nature of the ‘pretending to be someone else’ and ‘sneaking into places you weren’t invited’ plot elements just made me cringe (and the gender politics made me cringe even more). Melanie Griffiths as the lead character was just so incredibly annoying it made it hard to root for her. I guess romantic movies are quite subjective, and if it that element works for you, it works, and everything else is moot. Unfortunately, it didn’t really work for me in this film.

Sigourney Weaver was good though, and Harrison Ford is always watchable, even though his character in this was not always all that likable. The scene where he changes his shirt in his office without realising everyone was watching him was funny. There’s also a cameo from Kevin Spacey as a sleazebag.

I also thought it was quite an ugly film to look at, some scenes from the ferry moving into the New York skyline aside.

Citizen Rules
11-07-20, 02:05 PM
I often watch English language films with subtitles because I don't always hear what is being said - it's a combination of sound levels in the film, actors mumbling, my hearing and the accents! For me, it's certain American accents that are the hardest to understand. Films like No Country For Old Men have me reaching for the subtitle button on the remote.

I think for the next hall of fame I will have to nominate you Trainspotting and see how you get on with the accents in that :DYeah, there are American films where I can't get the dialogue well either, and like you said, because of mumbling or low sound mix. I watch most movies from a video file so they don't have subs, unless I add a .srt file to them...which I think I should start doing for British films.

Wyldesyde19
11-07-20, 02:20 PM
Working Girl

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Sorry to whoever picked this for me, but it just wasn’t my sort of film.

For a start it was all very dated. The farcical nature of the ‘pretending to be someone else’ and ‘sneaking into places you weren’t invited’ plot elements just made me cringe (and the gender politics made me cringe even more). Melanie Griffiths as the lead character was just so incredibly annoying it made it hard to root for her. I guess romantic movies are quite subjective, and if it that element works for you, it works, and everything else is moot. Unfortunately, it didn’t really work for me in this film.

Sigourney Weaver was good though, and Harrison Ford is always watchable, even though his character in this was not always all that likable. The scene where he changes his shirt in his office without realising everyone was watching him was funny. There’s also a cameo from Kevin Spacey as a sleazebag.

I also thought it was quite an ugly film to look at, some scenes from the ferry moving into the New York skyline aside.

That would be me haha. I acknowledge it was a bit of a reach, as I don’t have a grasp on your preference yet.
Sorry you didn’t enjoy it. I happen to love it, but it’s not for everyone.

Citizen Rules
11-07-20, 04:16 PM
I've not seen Working Girl but I'd like to. That's all I got to say:p

Wyldesyde19
11-07-20, 04:54 PM
I've not seen Working Girl but I'd like to. That's all I got to say:p
I almost selected it for you. It was in my final three.

edarsenal
11-07-20, 05:15 PM
Well you're pretty consistent in picking movies that I don't like. :laugh:
If it's any consolation, it'll probably rank higher than Blue Velvet. Maybe there will be others that I dislike even more?
Consistency is, after all, my forte :)
And thanks, but I truly hope there are far more you actually enjoy and possibly even love. ;)

edarsenal
11-07-20, 05:22 PM
Haven't seen Working Girl since it first came out. Did enjoy it back then. Would have to do a rewatch to see how'd I enjoy it now.

Wyldesyde19
11-07-20, 05:34 PM
The Shape of Water


This is in strange and overlong romance. Though it is packed with some good performances.
Sally Hawkins is adorable, and great, as Eliza. Mute due to a past injury, she lived a lonely life of routine. Her only friends are a equally lonely artist who is gay, and her coworker who isn’t fleshed out enough to benefit a decent actress in Octavia Spencer.
The romance is a little creepy, and takes up too much time to develope, and and the Russian spy subplot is a unnecessary distraction.
But once we get past that we are reminded how touching it can be with little moments between her and the fish man. Those scenes, however come before his breakout Halfway through the movie, which would have been better served if had come closer to the end.
I know this sounds like I didn’t enjoy it, but honestly I did. I liked it, actually. There’s some good performances here, with a decent story and a fish man that Del Toro breathes life into. You feel for him when he’s tortured mercilessly, and you can see the kindness in his eyes.
It’s the little things, that one comes to expect from Del Toro.
Good pick, just falls short of being great

My guess is Thursday Next? I recall her being a fan of it.

gbgoodies
11-08-20, 01:56 AM
Working Girl

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Sorry to whoever picked this for me, but it just wasn’t my sort of film.

For a start it was all very dated. The farcical nature of the ‘pretending to be someone else’ and ‘sneaking into places you weren’t invited’ plot elements just made me cringe (and the gender politics made me cringe even more). Melanie Griffiths as the lead character was just so incredibly annoying it made it hard to root for her. I guess romantic movies are quite subjective, and if it that element works for you, it works, and everything else is moot. Unfortunately, it didn’t really work for me in this film.

Sigourney Weaver was good though, and Harrison Ford is always watchable, even though his character in this was not always all that likable. The scene where he changes his shirt in his office without realising everyone was watching him was funny. There’s also a cameo from Kevin Spacey as a sleazebag.

I also thought it was quite an ugly film to look at, some scenes from the ferry moving into the New York skyline aside.


It's been a while since I saw Working Girl, but I remember it being a pretty good movie. I don't remember either Melanie Griffith or Harrison Ford being unlikable in it at any point, but maybe that's just due to my poor memory. I should probably rewatch it to see if it still holds up after all these years.

Thursday Next
11-08-20, 06:48 AM
The Shape of Water

My guess is Thursday Next? I recall her being a fan of it.


You are correct.

Glad you liked it more than I liked yours :lol:

cricket
11-08-20, 12:02 PM
Working Girl


http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/6000000/Harrison-in-Working-Girl-harrison-ford-6045370-852-480.jpg

Sorry to whoever picked this for me, but it just wasn’t my sort of film.

For a start it was all very dated. The farcical nature of the ‘pretending to be someone else’ and ‘sneaking into places you weren’t invited’ plot elements just made me cringe (and the gender politics made me cringe even more). Melanie Griffiths as the lead character was just so incredibly annoying it made it hard to root for her. I guess romantic movies are quite subjective, and if it that element works for you, it works, and everything else is moot. Unfortunately, it didn’t really work for me in this film.

Sigourney Weaver was good though, and Harrison Ford is always watchable, even though his character in this was not always all that likable. The scene where he changes his shirt in his office without realising everyone was watching him was funny. There’s also a cameo from Kevin Spacey as a sleazebag.

I also thought it was quite an ugly film to look at, some scenes from the ferry moving into the New York skyline aside.

Haven't seen it in a while but I used to be a fan. I thought it was a good pick for you at the time.

The Shape of Water


This is in strange and overlong romance. Though it is packed with some good performances.
Sally Hawkins is adorable, and great, as Eliza. Mute due to a past injury, she lived a lonely life of routine. Her only friends are a equally lonely artist who is gay, and her coworker who isn’t fleshed out enough to benefit a decent actress in Octavia Spencer.
The romance is a little creepy, and takes up too much time to develope, and and the Russian spy subplot is a unnecessary distraction.
But once we get past that we are reminded how touching it can be with little moments between her and the fish man. Those scenes, however come before his breakout Halfway through the movie, which would have been better served if had come closer to the end.
I know this sounds like I didn’t enjoy it, but honestly I did. I liked it, actually. There’s some good performances here, with a decent story and a fish man that Del Toro breathes life into. You feel for him when he’s tortured mercilessly, and you can see the kindness in his eyes.
It’s the little things, that one comes to expect from Del Toro.
Good pick, just falls short of being great

My guess is Thursday Next? I recall her being a fan of it.


I thought this was incredible, easily one of my favorites from the last 10 years.

neiba
11-08-20, 02:02 PM
I thought this was incredible, easily one of my favorites from the last 10 years.

I, on the other hand, think it's the most unfair of the Oscar winners since ever xD

Citizen Rules
11-08-20, 02:17 PM
The Shape of Water
Call Me by Your Name
Darkest Hour
Dunkirk
Get Out
Lady Bird
Phantom Thread
The Post
Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri

I didn't see: Get Out, Lady Bird...

I did see: Call Me By Your Name, Darkest Hour, Dunkirk, I thought they were all mediocre.

I shut off: Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri as I thought it was over the top stupid.

The movie that should've won and the only really good one was: Phantom Thread

Wyldesyde19
11-08-20, 02:26 PM
The Shape of Water
Call Me by Your Name
Darkest Hour
Dunkirk
Get Out
Lady Bird
Phantom Thread
The Post
Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri

I didn't see: Get Out, Lady Bird...

I did see: Call Me By Your Name, Darkest Hour, Dunkirk, I thought they were all mediocre.

I shut off: Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri as I thought it was over the top stupid.

The movie that should've won and the only really good one was: Phantom Thread


I’ve only seen Lady Bird and The Shape of Water so far. Loved Lady Bird, but I have a soft spot Saoirse Ronan

neiba
11-08-20, 02:29 PM
The Shape of Water
Call Me by Your Name
Darkest Hour
Dunkirk
Get Out
Lady Bird
Phantom Thread
The Post
Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri

I didn't see: Get Out, Lady Bird...

I did see: Call Me By Your Name, Darkest Hour, Dunkirk, I thought they were all mediocre.

I shut off: Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri as I thought it was over the top stupid.

The movie that should've won and the only really good one was: Phantom Thread


This is the last year I've made the effort to see them all. Shape of Water was, in my opinion, the worst of the bunch. It annoyed me so much that I basically gave up on the Oscars. And yeah, Phantom Thread is the superior film, by a long margin.

Thursday Next
11-08-20, 04:24 PM
Phantom Thread is an excellent film, and I would not have complained had it won the Oscar. I was quite surprised at Shape of Water winning, even though I love it, as I can see that in some ways it could come across as quite niche and I can see exactly why some people would not love it.

Miss Vicky
11-08-20, 04:46 PM
I've only seen Three Billboards, Call Me By Your Name, and Phantom Thread. I'm sure you guys can guess which of those I liked the least, but I quite like the other two. I doubt I'll ever watch Shape of Water unless it's nominated in a general HOF and if it does I doubt I'll like it.

cricket
11-08-20, 04:52 PM
It seems a lot of people hated The Shape of Water. I was surprised I loved it with it being fantasy.

Wyldesyde19
11-08-20, 04:59 PM
It seems a lot of people hated The Shape of Water. I was surprised I loved it with it being fantasy.
I liked but found that it had too much going on. The Russian Spy side plot really didn’t do much for the film, for me. I felt it lost some steam once they freed fish man, and that happened an hour into it.
I liked the nod to ET as well.

Citizen Rules
11-08-20, 05:10 PM
I've only seen Three Billboards, Call Me By Your Name, and Phantom Thread. I'm sure you guys can guess which of those I liked the least, but I quite like the other two. I doubt I'll ever watch Shape of Water unless it's nominated in a general HOF and if it does I doubt I'll like it.I think you might like Shape of Water to some degree. It would seem to have some elements you tend to like. Though I don't think you'd ever love it. I just re-read my review of it and I really ripped on it!

https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1889109#post1889109

TheUsualSuspect
11-09-20, 01:31 PM
Gonna get started on this soon!!!!

Citizen Rules
11-09-20, 11:00 PM
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Ghost (1990)

Lots of topless beefcake going on here, but not my thing! And who knew they had Covid back in 1990;) So put on those damn shirts AND mask!

I've never liked Demi Moore, don't know why I just don't. I read she was the highest paid actress in the world at the time this was made....why? She can't really act, though she can cry. In fact I also read she could cry on cue out of either eye....weird! I didn't particular care for Patrick Swayze either. I would've liked to seen Winona Ryder cast with Christian Slater.

I did however like Whoopi Goldberg scenes those were funny. But otherwise, not much chance of this finishing high on my list. On the other hand I haven't really liked anything so far, so who knows this still might do well.

Miss Vicky
11-09-20, 11:12 PM
In 1990, Winona Ryder was 19 and Christian Slater was 21...

Citizen Rules
11-09-20, 11:16 PM
In 1990, Winona Ryder was 19 and Christian Slater was 21...
Works for me!

Hey Fredrick
11-09-20, 11:18 PM
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It Happened One Night
Peter Warne: Why didn't you take off all your clothes? You could have stopped forty cars.
Ellie Andrews: Well, ooo, I'll remember that when we need forty cars.

Did I ever mention how much I love romantic comedies? No? Well that's because I don't. There are exceptions to the rule, there almost always is, and It Happened One Night is one of them.

I really, really liked this story about a socialite who escapes from her overprotective father and hooks up with a reporter on a bus trip from Florida(?) to New York. So it's a road trip, romantic comedy.

Usually, with older movies, the comedy doesn't work for me unless it's Buster Keaton or the Marx Bros but this...this hit all the right notes. I know Claudette Colbert won the Academy Award for this and she was very good but Clark Gable (who also won the AA) really shined. From his introduction to the finale he was superb. He's just so natural and kind of reminded me a little of George Clooney. That kind of likeable. Now that's not to say Claudette wasn't good because she was very good but in my opinion this was a Clark Gable film.

So, Claudette... the one thing that bothered me were them eyebrows. Yeah, it's silly but holy cow! They almost turned into sideburns. I got over that, eventually, and really liked her more as the film went on. It's a little unfortunate and no fault of hers that the weakest scene in the film was built around her and it was the "I love you" scene which felt a little rushed and out of place. I would've liked it a little later but I'm no writer, as you can tell, and I really don't know where else you would have put that. Not a deal breaker by any means but...eh, I was really starting to like her character and then she got all weepy.

This is one of them movies that has a scene that is iconic. That even if you haven't seen the movie you know what's coming as it starts to unfold and that is the hitchhiking scene and I can imagine that scene (along with a couple others) raised a few eyebrows back in the day (OMG!?! IS THAT... A LEG!?!). It's iconic but I don't think it's the best scene in the movie. That honor belongs to the "marriage fight" scene. Or maybe the "Piggyback"scene. Ah, it's hard to say as there were quite a few very good scenes and I laughed a lot more than I expected to.

This has been on my watchlist since the AFI released their first Top 100. So it's been sitting there for awhile. Probably would have stayed that way which is why I join these things. Sometimes I need a little push. I think I have this narrowed down to three people so I'm just gonna guess...a Wyldesyde nom?

Hey Fredrick
11-09-20, 11:23 PM
I would've liked to seen Winona Ryder cast with Christian Slater.


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They did make a good couple.

Miss Vicky
11-09-20, 11:44 PM
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They did make a good couple.

Heathers Is a great movie and I loved them in it, but I just don’t see them working in Ghost. Also, if they were in Ghost I think I would just keep picturing them as Veronica and J.D.

Citizen Rules
11-09-20, 11:54 PM
It Happened One Night
So, Claudette... the one thing that bothered me were them eyebrows. Yeah, it silly but holy cow! They almost turned into sideburns. I got over that, eventually, and really liked her more as the film went on.Ha:p Those ain't eyebrows, those be grease paint!

I know what you mean about the eyebrows. That was the fashion in the 1930s, just be glad women today aren't shaving off their eyebrows and drawing them on with a magic marker!

I love It Happened One Night, this is a 5/5 movie for me. It's one of the first classic films I seen and it got me hooked on old films and Claudette and her eyebrows too!

Miss Vicky
11-10-20, 12:13 AM
I only vaguely remember It Happened One Night and the main thing I remember is that I didn’t like it.

Hey Fredrick
11-10-20, 12:22 AM
Heathers Is a great movie and I loved them in it, but I just don’t see them working in Ghost. Also, if they were in Ghost I think I would just keep picturing them as Veronica and J.D.

100% agree! I love Heathers and Ghost wouldn't work with them at all. Demi Moore and Patrick Swayze wouldn't be my first choice but they were HOT at the time.

cricket
11-10-20, 12:41 AM
It Happened One Night is a top 3 rom-com, easy

Damn CR, I haven't seen Ghost in a while but I thought you'd like it.

Wyldesyde19
11-10-20, 01:15 AM
It Happened One Night is indeed my nomination.
I love the movie. The dialogue is great and The chemistry is evident between Gable and Colbert.
One of my favorite lines is :
father: do you love her?!
Peter: yes! But don’t hold it against me, I’m a little screwy myself!

Hey Fredrick
11-10-20, 01:37 AM
It Happened One Night is indeed my nomination.
I love the movie. The dialogue is great and The chemistry is evident between Gable and Colbert.
One of my favorite lines is :
father: do you love her?!
Peter: yes! But don’t hold it against me, I’m a little screwy myself!

That was a one of the many good lines in the movie. Gable is one of them actors whose expressions enhance the dialogue and I have to admit, I love the 30's slang: "if you call that piggybacking your old man don't know beans!" Just cracks me up. So I'm 2 fer 2 on guessing my noms.

Wyldesyde19
11-10-20, 01:50 AM
That was a one of the many good lines in the movie. Gable is one of them actors whose expressions enhance the dialogue and I have to admit, I love the 30's slang: "if you call that piggybacking your old man don't know beans!" Just cracks me up. So I'm 2 fer 2 on guessing my noms.
Really glad you enjoyed it. I was 50-50 with you, as I hadn’t really gotten a great idea of your taste quite yet.

gbgoodies
11-10-20, 02:30 AM
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Ghost (1990)

Lots of topless beefcake going on here, but not my thing! And who knew they had Covid back in 1990;) So put on those damn shirts AND mask!

I've never liked Demi Moore, don't know why I just don't. I read she was the highest paid actress in the world at the time this was made....why? She can't really act, though she can cry. In fact I also read she could cry on cue out of either eye....weird! I didn't particular care for Patrick Swayze either. I would've liked to seen Winona Ryder cast with Christian Slater.

I did however like Whoopi Goldberg scenes those were funny. But otherwise, not much chance of this finishing high on my list. On the other hand I haven't really liked anything so far, so who knows this still might do well.



I think Ghost might be the only movie that I've seen Demi Moore in, and I didn't think she was very likable in this movie, but I love the movie anyway. I think her role could have easily been recast with another actress, and this movie still would have been a great movie, but Patrick Swayze was great in this movie, and he was perfectly cast.

Having said that, I'm not surprised that you didn't like this movie. I'm not sure why, but when I saw it in your list, I didn't think it was your type of movie.

And as much as I loved Winona Ryder and Christian Slater in the movie Heathers, I don't think either of them would have been right for this movie.

Thursday Next
11-10-20, 11:06 AM
I don't much care for Ghost, but It Happened One Night is great.

Citizen Rules
11-10-20, 12:20 PM
...Damn CR, I haven't seen Ghost in a while but I thought you'd like it.
I think Ghost might be the only movie that I've seen Demi Moore in, and I didn't think she was very likable in this movie, but I love the movie anyway. I think her role could have easily been recast with another actress, and this movie still would have been a great movie, but Patrick Swayze was great in this movie, and he was perfectly cast.

Having said that, I'm not surprised that you didn't like this movie. I'm not sure why, but when I saw it in your list, I didn't think it was your type of movie.

And as much as I loved Winona Ryder and Christian Slater in the movie Heathers, I don't think either of them would have been right for this movie.Winona Ryder and Christian Slater of course would've been too young for the roles at the time, that was just a off the top of my head thought. In 1990 I'm not sure who would be my choice for those roles? But I know I didn't care for either actor as they couldn't act.

I might have liked Patrick Swayze better if he wasn't done up as a pretty boy beefcake in the movie. I mean he's presented as being more sexy in the movie than Demi. That's one big reason why it didn't work for me as the emphasis is on hot guys and the director films them like most directors film beautiful women. So I could see women loving this movie, but not me. And I find Demi as charming & cute as a doorknob, so I wasn't into her character.

Also I didn't like the odd mix of glitzy, soap opera romance scenes, plus a homicidal stalking bad guy and also comedy with a zany Whoopi Goldberg.

Ghost (1990) is a producers movie where they included all the popular elements and hottest stars to create prep-programed' box office demand. And it worked, Ghost was a big, money making movie...but I was bored by it. I probably should've said when I joined this Personal Rec II that I'm a guy not a girl!:p

I DO however thank whoever chose Ghost for me as I was always curious about watching it, so I'm glad I did🙂

edarsenal
11-10-20, 08:12 PM
It seems a lot of people hated The Shape of Water. I was surprised I loved it with it being fantasy.

I liked but found that it had too much going on. The Russian Spy side plot really didn’t do much for the film, for me. I felt it lost some steam once they freed fish man, and that happened an hour into it.
I liked the nod to ET as well.

Not a surprise but I enjoyed it as well. Have not had the opportunity to rewatch it but hopefully will

edarsenal
11-10-20, 08:27 PM
It Happened One Night one the second 30's HoF. Fun little romp. Loved the banter throughout. A Capra classic!

Sorry to hear Ghost was another that didn't work for you CR. Haven't seen that since it first came out so can't really remark on it. I do remember enjoying Whoppi though

Thursday Next
11-11-20, 08:15 AM
I think there's definitely a Patrick Swayze factor, CR. A lot of people I know in real life love Ghost and Dirty Dancing and I don't really 'get' either...I think it's because they all fancied Patrick Swayze in the early 90s. I think the first film I saw him in was Donnie Darko which is definitely a different sort of role :lol:

Miss Vicky
11-11-20, 11:03 AM
It's been quite some time since I last watched Ghost, but I always liked it. I like Patrick Swayze but I think he's a bit too pretty in it. I prefer him in Point Break. I think Demi Moore looks gorgeous in it, but what do I know? I mostly liked it for the romance but also for the humor, particularly with Whoopi Goldberg and Vincent Schiavelli. The only thing I remember disliking from the last time I saw it was the very dated and poorly animated demons/whatever the hell they are that drag the dead bad guys away.

Thursday Next
11-11-20, 12:59 PM
The Fugitive

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I remember not watching this some time in the 90s when my family rented the vhs but I was out somewhere. I also recall not having much desire to watch it because I thought I would find the whole false accusation thing a bit frustrating to watch. I think that is still something I have in the back of my mind somewhere, because I’ve never quite got round to watching The Hunt, even though it’s discussed positively on here quite a lot.

Anyway, I’m sort of glad I hadn’t watched it before because it was quite nice now to watch a good solid mainstream movie like this for the first time. It was entertaining, it was thrilling, it had just enough twists and near misses to keep you watching but it never got silly and you were never in any doubt of Harrison Ford’s innocence and general good-guy-ness, so you good root for him in an uncomplicated way which was quite fun.


No idea who nominated it for me.

Citizen Rules
11-11-20, 01:14 PM
I think there's definitely a Patrick Swayze factor, CR. A lot of people I know in real life love Ghost and Dirty Dancing and I don't really 'get' either...I think it's because they all fancied Patrick Swayze in the early 90s. I think the first film I saw him in was Donnie Darko which is definitely a different sort of role :lol:Swayze was in Donnie Darko? I don't remember which character he was. I've only seen DD once and so long ago I can't really remember it. Good movie though.

It's been quite some time since I last watched Ghost, but I always liked it. I like Patrick Swayze but I think he's a bit too pretty in it. I prefer him in Point Break. I think Demi Moore looks gorgeous in it, but what do I know? I mostly liked it for the romance but also for the humor, particularly with Whoopi Goldberg and Vincent Schiavelli. The only thing I remember disliking from the last time I saw it was the very dated and poorly animated demons/whatever the hell they are that drag the dead bad guys away.Yes Vincent Schiavelli was awesome! I forgot to mention that but I really liked that subway train part and his character. I wish he even had more time. You know Ghost is weird in that it feels like several different movie ideas stitched together. I'd like to have seen the entire movie from Swayze's viewpoint as he navigates the world of 'ghost' and learns what his new reality is an finally learns to accept it.

edarsenal
11-11-20, 05:55 PM
The Fugitive

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I remember not watching this some time in the 90s when my family rented the vhs but I was out somewhere. I also recall not having much desire to watch it because I thought I would find the whole false accusation thing a bit frustrating to watch. I think that is still something I have in the back of my mind somewhere, because I’ve never quite got round to watching The Hunt, even though it’s discussed positively on here quite a lot.

Anyway, I’m sort of glad I hadn’t watched it before because it was quite nice now to watch a good solid mainstream movie like this for the first time. It was entertaining, it was thrilling, it had just enough twists and near misses to keep you watching but it never got silly and you were never in any doubt of Harrison Ford’s innocence and general good-guy-ness, so you good root for him in an uncomplicated way which was quite fun.


No idea who nominated it for me.

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It's been a while but I do remember really enjoying both Jones and Ford as the hunter and hunted in this.

Miss Vicky
11-11-20, 06:02 PM
I haven’t seen The Fugitive in ages, but I vaguely remember liking it.

cricket
11-11-20, 06:33 PM
Swayze was in Donnie Darko? I don't remember which character he was. I've only seen DD once and so long ago I can't really remember it. Good movie though.

I haven’t seen The Fugitive in ages, but I vaguely remember liking it.

DD was a Miss Vicky consideration for me.

Miss Vicky
11-11-20, 06:38 PM
DD was a Miss Vicky consideration for me.

I tried watching Donnie Darko once, but shut it off pretty quickly. I've never had much desire to try again.

cricket
11-11-20, 06:56 PM
I tried watching Donnie Darko once, but shut it off pretty quickly. I've never had much desire to try again.

I'll take it off my list

Miss Vicky
11-11-20, 06:59 PM
I'll take it off my list

Well, I had a similar experience with Mystic River on my first attempt so you never know.

cricket
11-11-20, 07:00 PM
Well, I had a similar experience with Mystic River on my first attempt so you never know.

I have more possibilities for you than everyone else. It's so tempting to tell you what they are but I could see us doing this again.

cricket
11-11-20, 07:02 PM
I was surprised when The Fugitive was nominated for Thursday but I probably shouldn't have been given how popular it is. It's a good movie and as it turns out, it was a good nomination.

gbgoodies
11-12-20, 12:52 AM
The Fugitive

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I remember not watching this some time in the 90s when my family rented the vhs but I was out somewhere. I also recall not having much desire to watch it because I thought I would find the whole false accusation thing a bit frustrating to watch. I think that is still something I have in the back of my mind somewhere, because I’ve never quite got round to watching The Hunt, even though it’s discussed positively on here quite a lot.

Anyway, I’m sort of glad I hadn’t watched it before because it was quite nice now to watch a good solid mainstream movie like this for the first time. It was entertaining, it was thrilling, it had just enough twists and near misses to keep you watching but it never got silly and you were never in any doubt of Harrison Ford’s innocence and general good-guy-ness, so you good root for him in an uncomplicated way which was quite fun.


No idea who nominated it for me.


The Fugitive made my Top 25 Action Movies list. Both Harrison Ford and Tommy Lee Jones are terrific in it.

Hey Fredrick
11-12-20, 09:21 AM
The Fugitive


No idea who nominated it for me.


I wonder? ;) I really didn't have a feel for what types of movies you like so I played it safe with what I think is one of the better mainstream flicks on the lists. I think it's a very good movie with fantastic performances. It's one of those movies that if I come across while flipping through the channels I'll end up watching it.

edarsenal
11-13-20, 12:25 AM
Watched Strangers on a Train tonight and should get a review up tomorrow for it

Miss Vicky
11-13-20, 03:55 AM
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Secrets & Lies (Mike Leigh, 1996)
Imdb (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0117589/?ref_=fn_al_tt_2)

Date Watched: 11/12/2020
Cinema or Home: Home
Reason For Watching: The Personal Recommendation Hall of Fame II, I'm guessing Thursday Next picked it.
Rewatch: No.

I have some very mixed feelings about this one. On the one hand, the performances were all very strong and I think the overall message of the film - about how damaging it is to yourself to hide your pain and how much damage lies can do to others - is an important one. But on the other hand, I really struggled to get through this.

Part of that is that certain aspects of the film hit uncomfortably close to home. I am not adopted nor have I ever been put in the position of having to give up a child, but my mom is adopted and got in contact with her birth mother (and her half siblings and assorted extended family) about 3 years ago. Fortunately, my grandmother had broken the news to her children not long after my mom first contacted her and we were welcomed with open arms, but that first time meeting everyone, which was at a big party, was overwhelming and very awkward. So in that way, I could definitely relate to Hortense. She was also just a generally likable character.

I also felt for Roxanne, Maurice, and Monica, even if I didn't relate to their experiences. But where I really struggled, and where my rating and opinion of the film gets dragged down, is with Cynthia. I tried to be sympathetic to her loneliness and to her struggles as a single mother, but I just found her so unrelentingly irritating and I couldn't blame Roxanne or Monica for not wanting to be around her. I wanted to reach through the screen and punch her in the face multiple times and that was even well before the proverbial s*** hit the fan at Roxanne's party.

I'm going to guess that this was Thursday's pick, but I'm not at all confident about that. I'll be generous and give it a 3.5 because I think it's probably a better film than my experience with it reflects. However, I don't think I'll ever watch it again.

3.5

neiba
11-13-20, 06:09 AM
Secrets & Lies (Mike Leigh, 1996)



3.5

Ok, I'll take that as a win! :p That's my nom for you MV.

Thursday Next
11-13-20, 07:56 AM
I'm going to guess that this was Thursday's pick, but I'm not at all confident about that. I'll be generous and give it a 3.5 because I think it's probably a better film than my experience with it reflects. However, I don't think I'll ever watch it again.

3.5

I wouldn't have thought of nominating this for you, to be honest. In fact, I had pretty much the same conflicting feelings about it as you. I feel like it is supposed to make you uncomfortable, but I never quite know how to feel about films that do that.

cricket
11-13-20, 05:53 PM
When Secrets & Lies was nominated for me, I was very happy about it. When it was nominated for Miss Vicky, I thought what the hell. Neiba strikes again!

edarsenal
11-13-20, 06:17 PM
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Strangers on a Train

Senator Morton: Be guided by my experience. Never lose any sleep over accusations. Unless they can be proved, of course.

Considering how much I enjoy Alfred Hitchcock it is kinda funny the number of his films I have NOT seen when it comes to his top films, such as this little gem. Though "Raymond Chandler is credited as the main author of the script, it was almost completely written by Czenzi Ormonde, who was credited as the second author". Still, the wit of the dialogue adds to both the well-orchestrated pace along with the entertainment value of this "attempt at a perfect murder".
Speaking of perfect murders, the man who finds himself caught up in this, Guy Haines, is played by Farley Granger who was another unwilling participant in Hitchcock's Rope (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040746/?ref_=nm_flmg_dr_26). While the man proposing the exchanging of possible murder victims is played by Robert Walker, who, sadly, died the summer this film was released. It is said his role as the charming psychotic had sealed his place in future leading roles. Watching him I fully agree.

Hitchcock does some excellent camera shots, as is his norm, in this film. Playing with the tension and suspense with, at this point, true Hitchcockian style. Such as the dark bedroom scene as Guy confronts Bruno, tossing the german luger (pistol) down. Hitchcock's camera placement is ideal as Bruno picks it up and follows Guy out to the stairs, the pistol trained on Guy as he slowly walks down the stairs. Almost daring Bruno to shoot him.
I also loved Bruno's stalking of Guy's wife, Miriam, at the carnival.

This was a great watch and definitely one I really should have checked out a long time ago. So thanks to whoever nominated it for me.

cricket
11-13-20, 07:14 PM
Strangers on a Train is a good flick and one of a handful of films nominated for more than one person in this HoF:cool:

Wyldesyde19
11-13-20, 09:34 PM
Strangers on a strain is pretty good.
I remember reading Ebert had it in his top 5 Hitchcock films, which surprised me after I had seen it, but I’d probably rate it top 10 or 15.
I’m doing a Hitchcock marathon this month, so I’ll have a bette idea soon enough.

Citizen Rules
11-13-20, 10:58 PM
I have more possibilities for you than everyone else. It's so tempting to tell you what they are but I could see us doing this again.Of course we're going to do this again! You've created a whole new trend at MoFo:yup:

I was surprised when The Fugitive was nominated for Thursday but I probably shouldn't have been given how popular it is. It's a good movie and as it turns out, it was a good nomination.I've not seen The Fugitive but I'd probably like it to some degree, but not love it. Just throwing out tidbit information for future Personal Recs:p


Secrets & Lies (Mike Leigh, 1996)
I have some very mixed feelings about this one. On the one hand, the performances were all very strong and I think the overall message of the film - about how damaging it is to yourself to hide your pain and how much damage lies can do to others - is an important one. But on the other hand, I really struggled to get through this.
I've not seen it, but something tells me I wouldn't like it I'm not big on Mike Leigh films if memory serves me.


Strangers on a Train

This was a great watch and definitely one I really should have checked out a long time ago. So thanks to whoever nominated it for me.One of my favorite Hitch's and Robert Walker became the character in my mind after watching it. He was a solid actor to bad he passed so young. His son who was on the original Star Trek, was also a very good actor.

Citizen Rules
11-13-20, 11:00 PM
Strangers on a strain is pretty good.
I remember reading Ebert had it in his top 5 Hitchcock films, which surprised me after I had seen it, but I’d probably rate it top 10 or 15.
I’m doing a Hitchcock marathon this month, so I’ll have a bette idea soon enough.You are? Cool! Which ones do you have planned to watch?

Wyldesyde19
11-13-20, 11:19 PM
You are? Cool! Which ones do you have planned to watch?
Mostly his older silent films, and 30’s films. But, having just watched Dial M for Murder, I hopped into To Catch a Thief.
I have a box set I bought about 12 years ago and haven’t finished it yet (just need to watch Family Plot) and a 15 movie dvd set I got as a gift last year that I’m finally diving into.
So, Blackmail, Juno and the Paycock, Manxman, The Lady Vanishes, The 39 Steps (rewatch but it’s been over a decade) and several others from his early period.

Citizen Rules
11-13-20, 11:27 PM
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Black Orpheus (1959) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053146/)

I'm guessing this was Neiba's choice for me, as he has good taste in films...and seems to know what people like. And I liked Black Orpheus. To me this was a film watching adventure, dripping in exotic locales before they became ruined by mega hotels and slums running to the horizon. Gosh I want to visit Brazil but in the year 1959 and at carnival like shown in this film.

Black Orpheus was a Palme d'Or winner at Cannes and also won the Oscar for Best Foreign Language Film. I'm embarrassed to say I was unaware of the film. I did appreciate the chance to see such a beautifully told and wonderfully filmed re-telling of the ancient Greek mythological love story. The movie works almost like a documentary as it doesn't rely deeply on character building or story telling. Instead it watches the people of the region as they get ready for the much anticipated yearly carnival celebration.

I read that the director ran out of money and literally lived on the beach as he tried to get enough cash to finish the film. And it does seem to be a very personal film, ala indie film. Black Orpheus is like a time capsule to another place, quite magically.



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Hey Fredrick
11-14-20, 11:19 AM
I think Strangers on a Train is one of Hitchcock's best, second only to Rear Window, and a lot of it is because of the performance of Robert Walker.

Just recently saw Black Orpheus for the first time and thought it was pretty good. Unfortunately, I have the memory of a goldfish so I can't recall too much about it but I remember loving the look of the movie.

Miss Vicky
11-14-20, 11:30 AM
(just need to watch Family Plot)

I thought Family Plot was pretty awful.