1940's Hall of Fame II

[Citizen Rules]

1940's Hall of Fame II


Everyone is welcomed to join!

Hofs are a great way to expose yourself to a wide array of different movies. As the 1940's Top 100 Countdown is next, this Hof will be a good way to discover some great 1940's films.

Same rules as usual:

We each nominate any film from the 1940's, as long as it hasn't won a previous Hof or wasn't in the 1st 40's Hof. Everyone watches all the nominated movies. We post our thoughts about each movie as we watch them, which doesn't have to be fancy, just your opinion or reaction to the film.

When the deadline is up, you send in a voting list to me by PM, with the movies ranked from most favorite to least favorite. The movie with the most points wins the Hall of Fame.


Members Reviews:

Blix - Disqualified (never participated)

Camo - list received
Day of Wrath (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1711052#post1711052)
Odd Man Out (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1711054#post1711054)
His Girl Friday (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1711078#post1711078)
The Ghost and Mrs Muir (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1717976#post1717976)
Beauty and the Beast (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1719061#post1719061)
The Sea Wolf (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1738527#post1738527)
I Remember Mama (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1738669#post1738669)
My Lucky (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1739328#post1739328)
Body and Soul (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1739868#post1739868)
Ride the Pink Horse (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1741135#post1741135)

Citizen Rules - list received
Double Indemnity (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1711099#post1711099)
Body and Soul (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1712155#post1712155)
Day of Wrath (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1713426#post1713426)
His Girl Friday (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1714831#post1714831)
Gentleman Jim (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1715096#post1715096)
Beauty and the Beast (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1718150#post1718150)
The Ghost and Mrs Muir (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1719593#post1719593)
I Remember Mama (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1720423#post1720423)
Mr Lucky (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1720701#post1720701)
The Sea Wolf (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1722530#post1722530)
Odd Man Out (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1723595#post1723595)
Ride the Pink Horse (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1725266#post1725266)

CosmicRunaway - list received
Double Indemnity (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1711462#post1711462)
Body And Soul (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1712488#post1712488)
His Girl Friday (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1713274#post1713274)
Beauty and the Beast (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1716290#post1716290)
Odd Man Out (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1718105#post1718105)
The Ghost and Mrs Muir (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1722391#post1722391)
The Sea Wolf (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1728202#post1728202)
Ride The Pink Horse (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1729708#post1729708)
Mr Lucky (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1732484#post1732484)
Day of Wrath (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1732701#post1732701)
Gentleman Jim (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1736946#post1736946)
I Remember Mama (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1741742#post1741742)

Cricket - list received
Double Indemnity (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1712274#post1712274)
His Girl Friday (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1713225#post1713225)
Beauty and the Beast (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1713605#post1713605)
Odd Man Out (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1714062#post1714062)
I Remember Mama (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1717230#post1717230)
The Ghost and Mrs Muir (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1722281#post1722281)
The Sea Wolf (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1724521#post1724521)
Ride the Pink Horse (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1729289#post1729289)
Mr Lucky (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1729546#post1729546)
Day of Wrath (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1730291#post1730291)

Edarsenal - list sent in
Body and Soul (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1712289#post1712289)
His Girl Friday (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1716020#post1716020)
Odd Man Out (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1723608#post1723608)
Gentleman Jim (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1724986#post1724986)
Ride the Pink Horse (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1730598#post1730598)
The Ghost and Mrs Muir (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1732797#post1732797)
Double Indemnity (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1736827#post1736827)
The Sea Wolf (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1741641#post1741641)
Mr Lucky (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1748024#post1748024)
I Remember Mama (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1741676#post1741676)
Day of Wrath (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1766525#post1766525)
Beauty and the Beast (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1766553#post1766553)

Gbgoodies - list received
Body and Soul (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1713463#post1713463)
I Remember Mama (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1724362#post1724362)
His Girl Friday (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1724368#post1724368)
Double Indemnity (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1724372#post1724372)
Odd Man Out (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1724375#post1724375)
Gentleman Jim (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1724378#post1724378)
Beauty and the Beast (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1724380#post1724380)
The Ghost and Mrs Muir (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1724382#post1724382)
Day of Wrath (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1724385#post1724385)
Ride the Pink Horse (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1724387#post1724387)
The Sea Wolf (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1724389#post1724389)
Mr Lucky (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1764713#post1764713)

Jeff Costello - list received
Double Indemnity (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1711058#post1711058)
Body and Soul (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1712190#post1712190)
Gentleman Jim (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1714663#post1714663)
Beauty and the Beast (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1717998#post1717998)
The Ghost and Mrs Muir (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1720071#post1720071)
His Girl Friday (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1728723#post1728723)
Ride the Pink Horse (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1730546#post1730546)
Day of Wrath (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1732049#post1732049)
I Remember Mama (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1748485#post1748485)
Odd Man Out (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1752052#post1752052)
Mr Lucky (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1757524#post1757524)
The Sea Wolf (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1758628#post1758628)

Nestorio_Miklos - list received
I Remember Mama (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1716207#post1716207)
Ride The Pink Horse (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1718810#post1718810)
Day of Wrath (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1720422#post1720422)
Odd Man Out (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1725116#post1725116)
Beauty and the Beast (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1727132#post1727132)
Gentleman Jim (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1727937#post1727937)
The Ghost and Mrs Muir (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1730775#post1730775)
Body and Soul (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1732935#post1732935)
His Girl Friday (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1751253#post1751253)
Double Indemnity (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1755867#post1755867)
The Sea Wolf (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1763823#post1763823)
Mr Lucky (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1763908#post1763908)

Raul - list received
Beauty and the Beast (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1715113#post1715113)
His Girl Friday (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1719499#post1719499)
The Sea Wolf (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1720117#post1720117)
Body and Soul (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1724004#post1724004)
Day of Wrath (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1724270#post1724270)
Gentleman Jim (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1729076#post1729076)
Odd Man Out (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1731676#post1731676)
I Remember Mama (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1732096#post1732096)
The Ghost and Mrs Muir (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1736715#post1736715)
Double Indemnity (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1758955#post1758955)
Mr Lucky (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1765026#post1765026)
Ride the Pink Horse (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1765138#post1765138)

Silent Vamp - list received
Odd Man Out (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1743308#post1743308)
Beauty and the Beast (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1743310#post1743310)
Day of Wrath (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1743312#post1743312)
Body and Soul (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1743313#post1743313)
The Sea Wolf (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1743314#post1743314)
Ride the Pink Horse (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1743703#post1743703)
I Remember Mama (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1743704#post1743704)
Double Indemnity (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1743705#post1743705)
Mr Lucky (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1743706#post1743706)
The Ghost and Mrs Muir (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1744383#post1744383)
His Girl Friday (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1744387#post1744387)

Thursday Next - list received
Double Indemnity (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1712061#post1712061)
Beauty and the Beast (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1712064#post1712064)
His Girl Friday (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1712926#post1712926)
Ride the Pink Horse (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1713920#post1713920)
I Remember Mama (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1717084#post1717084)
The Ghost and Mrs Muir (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1718015#post1718015)
Odd Man Out (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1725622#post1725622)
Day of Wrath (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1725673#post1725673)
Body and Soul (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1737751#post1737751)
The Sea Wolf (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1742106#post1742106)
Mr Lucky
(https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?anchor=1&p=1745974#post1745974)

Deadline: September 1st

[Citizen Rules]

The Nominations for the 1940s Hof II
Click on each poster for MoFo's movie page description.


https://image.tmdb.org/t/p/w154/hJYfxmR3QWNVbvsrvRJYv0Pj7Qo.jpg (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/43442_i-remember-mama.html)https://image.tmdb.org/t/p/w154/5RPOMMvuAmIXkzKOqCJPbhcSOHL.jpg (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/3085_his-girl-friday.html)https://image.tmdb.org/t/p/w154/q6Zs4YMbIBuEfCHCtufwPOkyIVz.jpg (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/996_double-indemnity.html)https://image.tmdb.org/t/p/w154/mAEgzk1Fd2RHUFQ7gjpFT98qW6q.jpg (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/43461_odd-man-out.html)
https://image.tmdb.org/t/p/w154/xcYi0CLQZiyXHQtaGIAvwAhlTiX.jpg (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/43522_gentleman-jim.html)https://image.tmdb.org/t/p/w154/nwphOaheSdDuuqZXZFLjTQ13cwl.jpg (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/47352_mr.-lucky.html)https://image.tmdb.org/t/p/w154/qi4V20bYyclriiOXzsfbejypy8u.jpg (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/648_beauty-and-the-beast.html)https://image.tmdb.org/t/p/w154/o8QZHYUXIBwdpe3hux5reGJD2lz.jpg (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/41391_day-of-wrath.html)
https://image.tmdb.org/t/p/w154/eTYxWM0AO4bdU2DzPavGXw1Xppb.jpg (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/17487_body-and-soul.html)https://image.tmdb.org/t/p/w154/49AtbXhtmcGczh7RdJtve0loMgC.jpg (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/33931_the-sea-wolf.html)https://image.tmdb.org/t/p/w154/6oJWu5XZ5tb7EgJVmTdOlaqcsjf.jpg (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/18871_ride-the-pink-horse.html)https://image.tmdb.org/t/p/w154/zcRmM6iKQOoQDsJixXFd6I7Cc6E.jpg (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/22292_the-ghost-and-mrs.-muir.html)

Deadline is September 1st

I Remember Mama (1948, George Stevens) nominated by: Citizen
His Girl Friday (1940, Howard Hawks) nominated by: Vamp
Double Indemnity (1944, Billy Wilder) nominated by: Nesto
Odd Man Out (1947, Carol Reed) nominated by: Camo
Gentleman Jim (1942, Raoul Walsh) nominated by: Blix Disqualified
Mr. Lucky (1943, H.C. Potter) nominated by: GBG
Beauty and the Beast (1946, Jean Cocteau) nominated by: Cosmic
The Ghost and Mrs Muir (1947, Joseph L. Mankiewicz) nominated by: Jeff Costello
Day of Wrath (1943, Carl Theodor Dreyer) nominated by: Thursday
Body and Soul (1947, Robert Rossen) nominated by: Cricket
Ride the Pink Horse (1947, Robert Montgomery) nominated by: Raul
The Sea Wolf (1941, Michael Curtiz) nominated by: Edarsenal

[cricket]

I'm in

[Camo]

As i told you i'm in and will send my nom later. Even though i've now seen enough 40's films that i could nominate something i've seen, i'm going to nominate something i haven't again mostly so i can get another one of the hundreds of 40's films i want to see before the Countdown watched.

[Citizen Rules]

As i told you i'm in and will send my nom later. Even though i've now seen enough 40's films that i could nominate something i've seen, i'm going to nominate something i haven't again mostly so i can get another one of the hundreds of 40's films i want to see before the Countdown watched. Glad to have you, we have 4 members right now....and we need more!

And it's cool if someone wants to nominate something that they are interested in but haven't seen.

[Nestorio_Miklos]

just sent my nom

[Camo]

Sent my nom.

It better be good or i'm holding all of you personally responsible for some reason.

Think i'm going to watch it before the HOF starts so i can review it right away.

[Nestorio_Miklos]

Sent my nom.

It better be good or i'm holding all of you personally responsible for some reason.

Think i'm going to watch it before the HOF starts so i can review it right away.
what's better be good Camo? your nom? or this HOF?

[Camo]

what's better be good Camo? your nom? or this HOF?

My nom haha. I've chosen something that i haven't watched before like i did in the 40's HOF pt.1.

[Nestorio_Miklos]

so long as you like it all should be fine :)

[Blix the Goblin]

....and we need more!Count me in

I will send you my nom shortly

[CosmicRunaway]

I know you told us in advance when you were going to start this, but I didn't utilize any of that time to come up with a nomination. :facepalm:

[Camo]

These were the films in the 40's HOF Part 1 which i assume are not allowed to be nominated again:

Pursued
Shadow of a Doubt
Murders Are Among Us
The Suspect
The Little Foxes
Fantasia
The Thief of Bagdad (i hate how it's actually spelled Baghdad but the film left out the 'h'.)
Arsenic and Old Lace
Waterloo Bridge
How Green Was My Valley
Rope
Laura

[Citizen Rules]

Thanks for posting that, and you're right, all the movies you listed from the first 40s Hof aren't eligible.

These aren't eligible as they have already won a Hof:

Casablanca, winner of 12th Hof
The Best Years of Our Lives, winner of 9th Hof

[Camo]

Also how that HOF finished:

12 Fantasia (Clazor) 33 points
11 Thief Of Bagdad (Raul) 45 points
10 Pursued (Camo) 52 points
9 Murderers Are among Us (Cosmic) 66 points
8 Shadow Of Doubt (seanc) 73 points
7 Rope (Neiba) 74 points
6 Waterloo Bridge (Citizen) 75 points
5 How Green Was My Valley (Daniel M) 78 points
4 Arsenic And Old Lace (gbg) 78 points
3.The Suspect (EdArsenal) 84 points
2.The Little Foxes (Cricket) 89 points
1.Laura (Destiny) 104 points

[Blix the Goblin]

These were the films in the 40's HOF Part 1 which i assume are not allowed to be nominated again:

Pursued
You know, I actually considered nominating Pursued until I looked at the Part 1 thread. I decided on a different movie from the same director, Raoul Walsh. I hope you all like it

[Camo]

Sorry for multi-posting but i just want to point out again as i did in the thread when it happened, Sean posting A Shadow of a Doubt instead of Shadow of a Doubt bugs the crap out of me. :D

I had to edit the "A" out there haha

[Camo]

You know, I actually considered nominating Pursued until I looked at the Part 1 thread. I decided on a different movie from the same director, Raoul Walsh. I hope you all like it

I hadn't seen Pursued when i nominated but i ended up really loving it. Here's my post about it - https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1611629#post1611629

Hope you nominated something i've been wanting to see from Walsh, if it wasn't and it was the other 40's film from him i've seen then that's cool too i'd like to give that another shot.

[cricket]

I know you told us in advance when you were going to start this, but I didn't utilize any of that time to come up with a nomination. :facepalm:

Pull a Camo


:coleman:

[cricket]

Also how that HOF finished:

12 Fantasia (Clazor) 33 points
11 Thief Of Bagdad (Raul) 45 points
10 Pursued (Camo) 52 points
9 Murderers Are among Us (Cosmic) 66 points
8 Shadow Of Doubt (seanc) 73 points
7 Rope (Neiba) 74 points
6 Waterloo Bridge (Citizen) 75 points
5 How Green Was My Valley (Daniel M) 78 points
4 Arsenic And Old Lace (gbg) 78 points
3.The Suspect (EdArsenal) 84 points
2.The Little Foxes (Cricket) 89 points
1.Laura (Destiny) 104 points

Disqualified

[Camo]

Pull a Camo


:coleman:

How is that a 'Camo'? :laugh: I'm like the most planned in advance member on the site, no post i make hasn't been discussed with a team of lawyers for 3 hours prior to me posting it.

The only 'Camo' part of your post was using my smilie without my permission. :coleman::D

[cricket]

How is that a 'Camo'? :laugh: I'm like the most planned in advance member on the site, no post i make hasn't been discussed with a team of lawyers for 3 hours prior to me posting it.

The only 'Camo' part of your post was using my smilie without my permission. :coleman::D

She can nominate something she hasn't seen:beatty:

[Citizen Rules]

I know you told us in advance when you were going to start this, but I didn't utilize any of that time to come up with a nomination. :facepalm: Don't feel bad:p I'm still trying to decide what to nominate. Hmmm, I'll figure it out...

We have 5 days until this officially starts, so just a suggestion to everyone who's already in the 13th Hof of Musical Artist Hof, use the next 5 days to watch a bunch of the noms in those Hofs, before this starts. That way you'll be in good shape to finish those Hofs. Just a friendly tip:)

[CosmicRunaway]

After thinking about it, I actually have 2 or 3 films in mind to nominate.
Spoiler: none of them are German. :eek:

I've just been terribly indecisive lately, and I haven't seen either of the films I'm considering in well over a decade. One of them is approaching 20 years. I likely won't have time to rewatch them before the deadline for nominations either, because I want to finish the 2 films I have left for the 13th HoF first.

[Camo]

She can nominate something she hasn't seen:beatty:

Sure, but that makes it even harder and would still result in her having to think about her nom. If she has an enormous watchlist for the 40's like me then that definitely made it more difficult. I went through a bunch of stuff after i sent Citizen a message saying i'd join and asking if i could pick something i hadn't seen, in the end i had tonnes of films i wanted to nominate and more stuff i wanted to go through and i ended up going for one of the first i had listed because i couldn't be bothered going through everything haha. Also it was for a specific reason that i'll mention when the nominations are up.

If i was going for something i'd seen it would have been alot easier for me. I don't ever really think about my noms for the HOF's: i feel if i do i'll start thinking about silly things like which one would most likely win. In the end i just go with my mood at the time i send the PM with something i want to show to you guys.

Picking something you haven't seen is so difficult in comparison.

[Camo]

Spoiler: none of them are German. :eek:


Who has Cosmic sold her account to should be the main question everyone in the thread is asking.

[cricket]

I've been watching 40's movies randomly, some recommendations, but mostly just off of other mofo lists which is how I found my nom. I'd be surprised if anyone who joins this HoF will have seen it, but I think it'll do pretty well.

[Blix the Goblin]

I hadn't seen Pursued when i nominated but i ended up really loving it. Here's my post about it - https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1611629#post1611629

Hope you nominated something i've been wanting to see from Walsh, if it wasn't and it was the other 40's film from him i've seen then that's cool too i'd like to give that another shot.From your review I see the other Walsh film you've watched is White Heat, which as much as I love that film, it was not my nom. Instead I chose one of his collaborations with my all-time favorite actor.

I'm pleased to see how much you loved Pursued. I have the blu-ray from Olive Films sitting on my shelf right now, it's a magnificent movie.

[Camo]

I've been watching 40's movies randomly, some recommendations, but mostly just off of other mofo lists which is how I found my nom. I'd be surprised if anyone who joins this HoF will have seen it, but I think it'll do pretty well.

I went through your lists to see if you had seen the one i nominated, after i nominated it. Won't say if you had or not yet.

What it taught me was that you have seen an insane amount of films from those lists over the past few years haha.

[Camo]

From your review I see the other Walsh film you've watched is White Heat, which as much as I love that film, it was not my nom. Instead I chose one of his collaborations with my all-time favorite actor.

I'm pleased to see how much you loved Pursued. I have the blu-ray from Olive Films sitting on my shelf right now, it's a magnificent movie.

Very glad to see it wasn't White Heat. I think i've seen another Walsh film but i can't remember off the top of my head, those are the only 40's ones though at least.

[Camo]

Also, must admit i became like a mother bear over Pursued after i actually watched and loved it. I'm very proud of these two defensive posts haha, they were so kneejerk and written off the cuff because those posts were things i wrote when i had just seen and was really into Pursued:

https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1612152#post1612152

https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1612162#post1612162

Would've liked that conversation with gbg to have lasted longer. I find i always have good conversations with gbg and miss her early days when she posted all the time.

Oh well, we have the Looney Tunes/Animated Shorts HOF's that will keep us together :cool:

[edarsenal]

just saw this; I'm in - obviously and sending my nom in now.
I have known previously that it is a little hard to find, so if it is a problem, I will pick another if necessary and with everyone's okay if it becomes an issue

[SilentVamp]

Well, I think my nomination is one that people have seen. At least, I know that Citizen Rules has seen it, I am pretty sure Camo has seen it, and I am 50/50 as to whether or not cricket has seen it. So I will apologize to you guys - and anyone else that may have seen it - if I nominated one that the majority has seen.

I nominated it because, in all honesty, I haven't seen it in a long time and I really want to watch it again.



I watched Sergeant York last night (all I ever think is "Dick Sargent. Dick York. Sergeant York." :) - and no, Citizen Rules, I didn't watch Gettysburg last night - I ended up watching Sergeant York instead - Gettysburg will be tonight :)). I wouldn't mind seeing some more movies like that get nominated.


Of course, I would love to see The Pride of the Yankees get nominated. :D Don't be surprised if I don't really push this movie, or occasionally mention it randomly in here. :D


As for a Raoul Walsh film, there are a few that I could actually see someone nominating. I know which one I would like it to be, but I am pretty certain it won't be that one. :)

[cricket]

Vamp, I loved Sergeant York and it was 1 of 3 movies I considered along with Mildred Pierce and the one I chose.

[Citizen Rules]

...

Of course, I would love to see The Pride of the Yankees get nominated. :D Don't be surprised if I don't really push this movie, or occasionally mention it randomly in here. :D


As for a Raoul Walsh film, there are a few that I could actually see someone nominating. I know which one I would like it to be, but I am pretty certain it won't be that one. :) It's like Vamp's Christmas wish list:p The Pride of the Yankees that's certainly worth watching. I'll have to check out Raoul Walsh's filmography and see which of his movies you might mean.

I still have decided myself on a nom:cool:

[Camo]

Well, I think my nomination is one that people have seen. At least, I know that Citizen Rules has seen it, I am pretty sure Camo has seen it, and I am 50/50 as to whether or not cricket has seen it. So I will apologize to you guys - and anyone else that may have seen it - if I nominated one that the majority has seen.



Don't apologize. Well to me at least, those other guys might be furious haha. I'm just really glad you took over hosting the Countdown (thanks again) and if your nom is something that i've seen that isn't currently in contention for my list i'll give it another shot. If it's already on my list right now i probably won't watch it again.

[SilentVamp]

Vamp, I loved Sergeant York and it was 1 of 3 movies I considered along with Mildred Pierce and the one I chose.
I know a couple of times you and I have been on the same wavelength with nominations. I wanted to try to make sure I didn't nominate one that you might consider this time. :)

[cricket]

I know a couple of times you and I have been on the same wavelength with nominations. I wanted to try to make sure I didn't nominate one that you might consider this time. :)

Strangely so

[Camo]

One of the best things was: Vamp geting kinda angry then apologizing for it in a very sincere way even though no one had really noticed.

Vamp is one of the few members here who should be allowed to post whatever IMO.

[MovieMeditation]

Intriguing.

[Camo]

Intriguing.

Are you joining?

[MovieMeditation]

Are you joining?
:shifty: could be

[Camo]

:shifty: could be

Well then.....what do you think of my avatar?

[cricket]

Well then.....what do you think of my avatar?

Is that Veronica Lake?

[Camo]

Is that Veronica Lake?

ya

[Camo]

The day after i finally take over this site i'll include bigger avatar sizes, that's the most pressing issue facing MoFo at all times noone disagrees, i don't even have to ask.

[cricket]

ya

https://media1.giphy.com/media/4LRkCWLi2MKOc/200w.gif

[Citizen Rules]

We got 8 members so far, there's room for more!

[gbgoodies]

We got 8 members so far, there's room for more!

I'm in, but I need a few days to decide what movie to nominate. I have it narrowed down to about a dozen movies, with 5 or 6 at the top of my list of possible noms. (I have to check availability on a few of them.)


I know you told us in advance when you were going to start this, but I didn't utilize any of that time to come up with a nomination. :facepalm:

Don't feel bad. I didn't finalize my decision either. I thought this wasn't going to be started until the Live Action Musicals HoF ended, so I thought I had a bit more time to decide.


Would've liked that conversation with gbg to have lasted longer. I find i always have good conversations with gbg and miss her early days when she posted all the time.

Oh well, we have the Looney Tunes/Animated Shorts HOF's that will keep us together :cool:

I miss being on here more too. I keep trying to find more time to post, but there just aren't enough hours in the day for me to get everything done, and post here too. :(

[Camo]

I'm completely deflated, i barely want to be the host through this but... yeah christ.

Hope everyone mocking this trips up and falls down stairs like a boss,

[gbgoodies]

I'm completely deflated, i barely want to be the host through this but... yeah christ.

Hope everyone mocking this trips up and falls down stairs like a boss,


Did I miss something? :confused:

[Camo]

Did I miss something? :confused:

No, not really.

[Camo]

I'd like to point out that i deserve merging powers, Think everyone agrees with that.

[Citizen Rules]

I'm in, but I need a few days to decide what movie to nominate. I have it narrowed down to about a dozen movies, with 5 or 6 at the top of my list of possible noms. (I have to check availability on a few of them.) Cool, glad to have you join:) and I still haven't decided on my nom.


I miss being on here more too. I keep trying to find more time to post, but there just aren't enough hours in the day for me to get everything done, and post here too. :( Work less, post more;)

[Nestorio_Miklos]

:D:D:D

https://media.giphy.com/media/88EvfARM1YaCQ/giphy.gif

[Thursday Next]

Ohh, this is tempting. I need to watch 40s films anyway. What to nominate though? Hmm...

[CosmicRunaway]

One of the films I'm considering nominating is actually on a list here, and no one else (other than Thursday Next) has apparently seen it. This is also the film I haven't seen in the longest amount of time, so I'm hesitant to go with it. Though even if people hate it, at least everyone's lists would be slightly more complete haha.

[Thursday Next]

One of the films I'm considering nominating is actually on a list here, and no one else (other than Thursday Next) has apparently seen it. This is also the film I haven't seen in the longest amount of time, so I'm hesitant to go with it. Though even if people hate it, at least everyone's lists would be slightly more complete haha.

Go for it! If you haven't seen it in a while it's a good excuse to watch it again and see if you feel the same about it. I'm intrigued to know what film it is...

[rauldc14]

In

[gbgoodies]

Work less, post more;)


I'd love too, but unfortunately, that won't pay the bills.

[rauldc14]

I sent my nomination in. I'm excited to see people's thoughts on it.

[Thursday Next]

Having trouble deciding between three potential nominations...

[Citizen Rules]

Hey guys, I lost my internet connection this weekend and I hope it will be back working tomorrow. Right now I'm at my parents house using their computer.

[cricket]

Hey guys, I lost my internet connection this weekend and I hope it will be back working tomorrow. Right now I'm at my parents house using their computer.

Who you trying to fool? You still live there.

[Citizen Rules]

Who you trying to fool? You still live there.
Ha! I actually did live at my parents for a long time.:p

[cricket]

Ha! I actually did live at my parents for a long time.:p

Me too, until I was 25. I was a disaster.

[edarsenal]

Me too, until I was 25. I was a disaster.
me too. Had to go back in my mid 30's for a couple of years. Crazy times.

[SilentVamp]

me too. Had to go back in my mid 30's for a couple of years. Crazy times.
Well, I could just confess something that I haven't before - although there is one person here who already knew it. A few years ago I had a really good job, but I lost it because the company left Wisconsin. I had a very hard time finding a job. I had to live with my mother. But during that time my mother had actually experienced three different health situations that made me have to stick around. Now, I am still living in this house with her because she is in a situation where she absolutely cannot live on her own. So until things get right again with her (hopefully they will), I will be stuck with my mom for awhile.

And because we are in the same house, she will watch a lot of these movies with me (the majority, actually), and boy, if you could hear some of her opinions on these films! :D

For anyone that is in the 13th HoF, I will say that I think that she has developed a thing for Mads Mikkelsen after seeing The Hunt. All I ever heard during it and after was "Poor Lucas" and I knew. :yup:

cricket, I don't think she minded Vincent Gallo either. :nope: I really don't. I told her what you said (about his looks) and she responded with "I didn't think he was that bad". :D I really think my mother better be able to get better soon so that she can get out of the house and experience more men so that she doesn't fall for anymore men like him. :)

[edarsenal]

It's amazing, SilentVamp, how, sometimes, we get detoured, only to wind up where we really need to be.

And you should add some of your mom's opinions, I would LOVE to hear them :)

[Thursday Next]

And you should add some of your mom's opinions, I would LOVE to hear them :)

Seconding this :)

[cricket]

Almost there!

[Citizen Rules]

We still have room for more people to join! We have 11 members right now, but there's always room for more:p

I will be doing the reveal of the movies, tomorrow, June 1st, most likely late in the day (I'm on the west coast USA).

[gbgoodies]

We still have room for more people to join! We have 11 members right now, but there's always room for more:p

I will be doing the reveal of the movies, tomorrow, June 1st, most likely late in the day (I'm on the west coast USA).


Tomorrow?! :eek: I haven't decided on my nom yet. :( (But I have it narrowed down to 4 movies. :))

[Citizen Rules]

I wish I could let you nominate all four! I know how you feel I've went back and forth all week on what movie I will nominate.

I had consider:
Another Part of the Forest (1948)
(http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040102/)

Which is a prequel to The Little Foxes. I just watched it the other night and it was pretty good too.

[gbgoodies]

I wish I could let you nominate all four! I know how you feel I've went back and forth all week on what movie I will nominate.


That would help. :lol:

Did you finally decide what movie to nominate, or will you make a last minute decision?

[Citizen Rules]

That would help. :lol:

Did you finally decide what movie to nominate, or will you make a last minute decision? Well, I posted on the first post that my nomination was received, but, the tough part about being a host is I can flip flop as much as I want. I think I know what I'm going with.

[gbgoodies]

Well, I posted on the first post that my nomination was received, but, the tough part about being a host is I can flip flop as much as I want. I think I know what I'm going with.


Unfortunately, I don't have that luxury. I'll decide before I log off tonight, so you won't have to wait for me to log on tomorrow night.

[Pussy Galore]

I won't participate in this one, no that I dislike 40's film, on the contrary, but I prepare a new favorite movies list so I'll mostly rewatch stuff.

I'm still giving suggestion for the 40's of films I rank 8,5 or higher and that aren't obvious (like Casablanca or Citizen Kane)

Fantasia, Mildred Pierce, Brief Encounter, Red River, The Red Shoes, Portrait of Jennie, A Matter of Life and Death, The Fallen Idol, The Shop Around the Corner, Out of the Pasy, A Letter to Three Wives and Stray Dog

[Citizen Rules]

Unfortunately, I don't have that luxury. I'll decide before I log off tonight, so you won't have to wait for me to log on tomorrow night. Thanks:)

....I'm still giving suggestion for the 40's of films I rank 8,5 or higher...

Fantasia, Mildred Pierce, Brief Encounter, Red River, The Red Shoes, Portrait of Jennie, A Matter of Life and Death, The Fallen Idol, The Shop Around the Corner, Out of the Pasy, A Letter to Three Wives and Stray Dog I considered 4 of those but I won't say which ones they are:cool:

Fantasia, Red River, Brief Encounter and The Shop Around the Corner have all been in previous Hofs. Good choices though:up:

[Jeff Costello]

I'll keep my eye on this thread. I'm curious to see what the nominations are.

[rauldc14]

Ditto. I always love the unveil. I'd be surprised if I wasn't very excited on what the nominations are.

[Camo]

Watched my nom two days ago. I'll put up my review after they are unveiled, might not be til tomorrow though depending on when that is my time.

[Citizen Rules]

We have one more member, Jeff Costello, and that makes an even dozen members. I will do the reveal of the movies in a few minutes:p

[Citizen Rules]

I posted the movies on the second post of the first page, but I'll also post them here.

Each movie poster is a clickable link that goes to MoFo's movie pages, which has information on the movies.

The Nominations for the 1940s Hof II
Click on each poster for MoFo's movie page description.


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https://image.tmdb.org/t/p/w154/xcYi0CLQZiyXHQtaGIAvwAhlTiX.jpg (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/43522_gentleman-jim.html)https://image.tmdb.org/t/p/w154/nwphOaheSdDuuqZXZFLjTQ13cwl.jpg (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/47352_mr.-lucky.html)https://image.tmdb.org/t/p/w154/qi4V20bYyclriiOXzsfbejypy8u.jpg (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/648_beauty-and-the-beast.html)https://image.tmdb.org/t/p/w154/o8QZHYUXIBwdpe3hux5reGJD2lz.jpg (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/41391_day-of-wrath.html)
https://image.tmdb.org/t/p/w154/eTYxWM0AO4bdU2DzPavGXw1Xppb.jpg (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/17487_body-and-soul.html)https://image.tmdb.org/t/p/w154/49AtbXhtmcGczh7RdJtve0loMgC.jpg (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/33931_the-sea-wolf.html)https://image.tmdb.org/t/p/w154/6oJWu5XZ5tb7EgJVmTdOlaqcsjf.jpg (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/18871_ride-the-pink-horse.html)https://image.tmdb.org/t/p/w154/zcRmM6iKQOoQDsJixXFd6I7Cc6E.jpg (https://www.movieforums.com/movies/22292_the-ghost-and-mrs.-muir.html)

Deadline is September 1st
That's 12 weeks to watch them. I will not be extending the deadline as The 1940's Top 100 Countdown deadline is on Sept 3rd and I'd like to have this done before the Countdown starts. Hopefully some of these movies will end up on the Countdown.

Lot's of great noms great job everyone!:p

[Camo]

Awesome :up:

Seen four. His Girl Friday and Double Indemnity are two of my favourite films, might just watch them again anyway but i'm not sure yet. Seen and loved Day of Wrath (i actually guessed TN would nominate that), will get my review of that as well as my nom Odd Man Out which i liked quite a bit up in a minute.

[Camo]

Day of Wrath

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This was my second Dreyer. I watched Ordet for the 5th Hall of Fame here years ago, all i really remember is i liked it. Should watch it again and check out his other stuff as i thought this was great. All i knew going in was that it was about witches and that it was apparently really slow, i guess it was but i honestly wouldn't have even thought of that if i hadn't read it and it didn't bother me at all.

Medieval heavy-moralistic attitudes are something i've always found very intriguing. Of course this could be seen as analogous to any oppressive regime like a certain one that was on everyone's particularly European's minds when this film was made. Separating it from that though i still find it a very interesting film without having to take any of that into consideration. Heriof Marte's begging for her life scene really got to me. The actress did a very good job, she seemed like a normal old woman who hadn't done anything wrong terrified of what was to come, so much so that she was willing to give up Anne's mother. "I'm so afraid to die" was really well delivered with her voice trembling then her turning back as if to say something else but just realizing it's useless and that her life is coming to an end. The great thing about this is that it shows that this way of living was so ingrained into this society that Marte herself believes Anne's mother was a witch. Despite the exact same thing happening to her at this moment she still doesn't question the validity of that. That part alone does an excellent job of setting up the mindsets of the time and it's only a few short scenes and maybe three minutes worth of dialogue. There's also the confession scene which is hilarious in a not funny in the slightest, horrifying sort of way. "She consented to the confession" made me laugh in disbelief, yeah we just brutally tortured her for god knows how long and now finally she has admitted to what she has done, there's no way she would have confessed to anything you asked of her to stop the torture. Tough old broad, wonder why she didn't use the dark arts on us when we were allowing her to freely wander about talking to Absalon. We also have "a fine confession", jesus i could see this in a Mel Brooks film. Yeah, we got it out of her guys, now lets not question why she only started confessing when we threatened to continue the torture, and lets not make anything of her not actually offering any answers herself but instead just agreeing with everything we were telling her. The execution scene was horrific, great scene(s). As i said earlier i found Marte just like a normal old woman, quietly scared but here she sounds like a raving mad woman out of fear which obviously in the minds of the church further confirms that she was a witch. The drastic change in her voice in particular and her screams as she's thrown on the stake were chilling. Very draining first half hour that's set the central conflict as well as the feel for what the society is like up very well.

I think Anne falling for Martin was done well enough. They didn't need to focus too much on it for it to be believable, the fact that her marriage to his dad was forced and that she is closer to age with him as well as the fact that Absalom was busy most of the time so she spent it with him, him conforting her during Marte's execution in particular was enough to make it believable. What it was best for was showing Anne separating herself from her existance as a repressed reverand's wife, her actually experiencing love and joy changing her personality completely, for the better in our eyes but a drastic change in those days especially towards what would be considered bad behaviour for a woman of course raises eyebrows. It's a great insight into a break from oppression, how much she takes to it to the point that you could just accept this film as a straightforward depiction of a woman becoming a witch, when really it's just her experiencing freedom for the first time in her life. Even the wishing death upon Absalom and later confessing seemed to be her trying to hold onto this happiness which wouldn't be able to continue if she was to continue on as an oppressed wife and her confession was her giving up knowing she can't have it anyway.

Anyway, think i've rabbled on long enough haha. Got to say this film was really creepy as well. The shadows, screaming, children singing, etc really got under my skin at times and worked to create the perfect atmosphere. The only thing i would have liked to see more of was around the village, a bit too much of it was set indoors i really love depictions of medieval villages. Saying that i really liked the creepy inside also with the shadows i mentioned and the seemingly always present ticking clock that enhanced the many silences throughout the film. Great film.

[Camo]

Odd Man Out

https://s14.postimg.org/ii7h1jj4h/manout.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/gdn40ghhp/)

Thought this was very good, it's not up there with The Third Man for me but i'm really glad it didn't end up a case of me disliking my own nom.

I liked the set-up, it established well with Johnny's frame of mind and the gangs doubts that this wasn't going to go well at all. One thing i found interesting about this was that the gang seemed to genuinely care for him, usually in heist films the gang only thinks of their own interests and there was multiple times they would've cut out early on but didn't. First of all them letting him on the heist in the first place; i mean i understand that he was their leader but i think there was more than enough justification for them to cut him out and to explain it to the other gang members especially since he was an escaped convict; someone who was not really in a position to throw his weight around. Then when he falls from the car, he's injured and his mind is clearly messed up even if he gets out of this it'd be so easy for them to say they tried to go back but something happened, so the only reason they would actually consider (never mind actually stopping the car like they did) going back for him would be out of genuine loyalty. I think that's interesting as it's not really something you see in films about groups of criminals, there is usually some sense of genuine fear or mutual benefit that would have them go out of their way like they did here but this seems like a guy who isn't mentally capable of running the gang anymore not to mention the police will be looking for him anyway due to his escape which must seriously limit his influence as well as make him not a desirable person for a bunch of criminals to hang around.

When they arrived back at the house i came to understand this more. I hadn't really realized that they were supposed to be an IRA type organiziation with a cause that operated like a close-knit family. That was something i really got into, not just the actual organization members but the whole community. I liked how we saw many different people with conflicting views on Johnny and his organization. We got to know alot of people here, the kids, police, just the average citizens and i think even outside of any connections to the troubles it gave a good sense of how Northern Irish (and largely British) society was at the time. Both the good and the bad and the hard to categorize, by that i mean for example despite intentions Teresa was doing the right thing by calling the police on Murphy and Pat, when you strip away any of the other cicrumstances these violent criminals really shouldn't have been on the street yet they muddy the waters by having Teresa do it in a very sneaky, callous way and they have some vague connections mentioned that does make it seem like a strong betrayal. It was nice seeing things not portrayed so black and white. This applies to Johnny too as i think there was a very interesting approach to him; the first time we see him he is adamantly against violence and while he does resort to it himself they still attempt to gain some sympathy for him both by having him not remember it and by having him deeply remorseful over what he had done. Well in the grand scheme of things i didn't have any actual sympathy for Johnny but i could see how others could thanks to the way everything was framed. My favourite thing about Johnny's storyline is it was pretty much dread personified. We knew all the time that Johnny was going to die/ was dying, and it was absolutely in the most horrible way imaginable; excruciatingly slow and every last second filled with genuine guilt. Then stuff like him being in those people who tried to help him before realizing who he was home, listening to them all drill the point home that he was dead, he was a goner at this point he's just hanging on; it might be too late now to go to a hospital and if it's not then you are walking into a life sentence, it's the end either way. When i realized there was over an hour left during this scene i wondered if this was the 40's version of torture porn haha.

Not got that many complaints about this but i must admit there was a bunch of silly coincidences or perfect situations. Some examples being the ball bouncing perfectly into the place Johnny was hiding, even though i liked that scene just for how creepy it was. A very convenient series of events involving the soldiers and the trustful cab driver allowing Johnny to get through the police cordon and i don't even think that was supposed to be his intention, i thought he was just looking for shelter then everything kind of came together perfectly. Then the most baffling, so baffling i'm not even quite sure if i've got it right but what i took from it anyway was that the homeless looking guy was using a bird as a metaphor for Johnny to the priest to get advice without telling him what actually happened and Kathleen just so happened to turn up at the exact right time and instantly understand what he was talking about. Yeah, that whole thing was pretty dumb and hard to swallow but i still quite liked the scene because the priest was awesome in it. I especially liked how it initially made out that the priest was pretty naive and actually believed it was a bird then when the conversation outright changed to Johnny the priest didn't miss a beat showing he knew all along and making the homeless guy look dumb instead. The whole part with Johnny being flung about from person to person and all the stuff with Lukey who i wasn't a big fan of was probably the weakest part of the film but i did really like the ending. Not because i had cared that much about the romance but because i was starting to worry that Johnny wouldn't die and i felt he had to as the atmosphere surrounding his looming death was one of the best things in the film for me.

Completely adored the visuals, and just the general look/design of the town. Definitely seen alot of The Third Man in this (or the other way round since this was first) with the tight spaces, use of shadows and alot of this being utizilied during chase sequences. This also had Johnny's hallucinations, those were pretty great i liked how most of the film was normal except every once in a while something really weird would happened to him. While some performances like the homeless guy and Lukey or whatever he was called were pretty over the top i'd say i liked the rest of them and some were very good. Overall i wouldn't say it's a new favourite but i did like it quite a bit and i'm glad i chose it.

[Camo]

Who nominated what by the way?

[Jeff Costello]

Seems like a nice variety of films. Odd Man Out, Beauty and the Beast and Day of Wrath were already on my watchlist, so I'm pleased they were nominated. Also I'm very happy to see The Sea Wolf nominated. I'm a big fan of Jack London, so I'm very eager to see this adaptation. It's actually been a while since I've read his novels and I honestly don't remember The Sea Wolf that much, so I guess I'll have to check this out as well.

[Citizen Rules]

Who nominated what by the way?I was going to update that in a few minutes...but I wonder if it might be fun not to know? Thoughts anyone on that? I'm open to whatever the majority wants to do.

[Jeff Costello]

I've watched "Double Indemnity" fairly recently, so I guess I can just copy paste my write-up from my diary thread.

Double Indemnity (1944) - Billy Wilder


Brief Synopsis : A seduced 35-year old insurance salesman (Fred MacMurray) constructs an elaborate scheme to eliminate his lover's (Barbara Stanwyck) husband.

Often cited as one of the greatest film-noirs of all time, Double Indemnity certainly didn't overly impress me, despite being fairly good. There was just something lacking...It started out quite slow for me, and even though the story got more tense as the film progressed, it was still predictable. Double Indemnity was technically well made, with predominant shadowy setting and a swift camera work. I generally liked the dialogue (eventough it was laughable at times) and the narration. And the story which dealt with elements like ; amorality, greed and betrayal, was engaging enough to keep me interested, but it lacked the involving and tense atmosphere, which would make me really like it.

I thought that one of the film's main problems was the lack of chemistry between MacMurray and Stanwyck. I found their acting to be pretty bland and stiff, especially MacMurray who basically seemed emotionless despite participating in such tense actions. Stanwyck also wasn't really convincing to me as femme fatale. The interactions between them felt really static and forced. By far my favourite performance, was by Edward G. Robinson, who served, as a some kind of balance to the story, with his unmistakeable gut and sharp intellect.

https://thebestpictureproject.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/doubleindemnity1.jpg

I wish I liked this film more, but it has kind of failed to live up to its reputation. At least for me.

[Citizen Rules]

I'll be doing the links to the reviews as usual, and they will be in the first post. I have to run for a bit but will update the 1st post today.

Great start Camo and Jeff:p

[Camo]

I was going to update that in a few minutes...but I wonder if it might be fun not to know? Thoughts anyone on that? I'm open to whatever the majority wants to do.

I'm not really bothered was just wondering. I'm guessing the Ghost and Mrs Muir is either yours or gbgs, Day of Wrath is definitely Thursday, think The Sea Wolf is probably Cosmic for some reason, Gentleman Jim will be Blix, Beauty and the Beast is Crickets maybe?

[Citizen Rules]

I'm not really bothered was just wondering. I'm guessing the Ghost and Mrs Muir is either yours or gbgs, Day of Wrath is definitely Thursday, think The Sea Wolf is probably Cosmic for some reason, Gentleman Jim will be Blix, Beauty and the Beast is Crickets maybe? Interesting guesses:p I think this could be fun too if we don't know, at least it's something different. Any opinions anyone?

So for right now let's keep the identity of who's movie is who, private:cool:

[Camo]

My guess:

I Remember Mama - Ed
His Girl Friday - Vamp
Double Indemnity - Raul
Odd Man Out - Camo
Gentleman Jim - Blix
Unfaithfully Yours - Nestorio
Beauty and the Beast - Cricket (in my head i saw a big rating from Cricket of this but i may be imagining it)
Day of Wrath - Thursday Next
Body and Soul - JeffCostello
The Sea Wolf - Cosmic
Ride the Pink Horse - Citizen
The Ghost and Mrs Muir - gbg

[Jeff Costello]

Looking at the film posters, there are two Edward G. Robinson and Rex Harrison appearances in this HoF.

[Camo]

His Girl Friday

https://s3.postimg.org/42907akxf/froday.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/l2rwfyxyn/)

Thinking about it i just decided to do my write-up of this now even though i might watch it again. Firstly because my mind isn't going to change, i've seen it three times and it's one of my very favourite films. Mostly because i think it's a difficult film (for me at least) to write about and i doubt a fresh watch will add much. Well the obvious thing to talk about is the dialogue: the actual script but more than anything the speed in which it's delivered. I've never seen a film like this, it's a very straight forward hollywood film but it could challenge just about anything in it's difficulty due to the lightning quick delivery. It barely lets up and i love it for it. Someone here said they hated it because it gave them a headache, i can totally understand that and i think it will probably have a mixed response here because of that but i love it. Cary Grant and Rosalind Russell are really outstanding here. Their chemistry is immense but not in a romantic sense as neither of them have a romantic bone in their body. While watching them you just kind of think these two need to be in each others lifes in some capacity, they are both hard-nosed very ambitious people who are clearly not pleasant to be around; it's like they were created to challenge and argue with each other yet never be around any other human in a not neccessary situation. There's also an element of schadenfreude there as i could watch them all day yet i know there's a strong possibility their relationship is going to end in murder-suicide haha.

Anyway yeah, amazing film. Don't want to ruin anything but i'll just say it will be difficult for this not to end up taking my #1 spot.

[CosmicRunaway]

I've seen four of the nominated films (Double Indemnity, Odd Man Out, The Ghost and Mrs Muir, and Beauty and the Beast), but I definitely need to rewatch all of them. Three of them have been on my rewatch list for awhile now anyway, so this has worked out just fine. :up:

[Citizen Rules]

Review links updated....impressive Camo is already 25% of the way done.

[CosmicRunaway]

I think this could be fun too if we don't know, at least it's something different. Any opinions anyone?
That would be interesting. We can continue guessing for awhile until someone gets most of them right, or leave it up to each person to reveal what they nominated?

Or just save that idea for a future HoF.

[Citizen Rules]

I think Double Indemnity is the only film in this Hof, that I've reviewed. I've seen it a number of times and love it. I'm a huge, huge fan of Barbara Stanwyck...and Fred MacMurray really does an excellent job here, as does Edward G Robinson. But for me it's the chemistry between Stanwyck and Mac Murray, that makes this special. I'll probably rewatch it again but I can't image my opinion changing much. So here's a copy of my review.

http://justhinestudies.weebly.com/uploads/2/6/1/6/26168245/6415636_orig.jpg
Double Indemnity (1944)

Director: Billy Wilder
Writers Screenplay: Billy Wilder & Raymond Chandler
Based on: James M. Cain's novel
Cast: Fred MacMurray, Barbara Stanwyck, Edward G. Robinson
Genre: Film Noir, Melodrama
Length: 107 minutes

Premise: A cocky insurance salesman, Walter Niff (Fred MacMurray) encounters a notorious married woman, Phyllis Dietrichson (Barbara Stanwyck)....she seduces him into murdering her husband for the insurance claim which is a double indemnity clause. Walter's friend and boss Barton Keyes (Edward G Robinson) is an insurance investigator with the uncanny ability to spot a fake insurance claim.

Review: Double Indemnity is the quintessential Film Noir. It has all of the noir elements: the 'average Joe' being lead into a dangerous situation by a femme fatale, the sense of doomed characters rushing towards a fatalistic climax...all wrapped in a potent story. The story is driven by lust, greed, self motivation and a serious lack of morals.

Director Billy Wilder co-wrote this provocative script with famed novelist Raymond Chandler...basing their work on the novel Double Indemnity by James Cain. This isn't an artsy film or a movie with deep underlying themes. What you see is what you get.

Fred MacMurray who almost always played light comic roles really nails his performance. He's completely believable as the self assured, womanizing, fast talking salesman with an eye for the ladies and a good time. When he locks his eyes on Phyllis we know why he agrees to bump off her husband.

Barbara Stanwyck is the other part of this duo. She too is utterly believable as the cheap, sexy, amoral Phyllis. She looks easy in her cheap blonde wig. From her ankle bracelet to her huge gaudy finger ring and her loud clothes, she looks and acts the part.

Edward G Robinson is the perfect balance to the story idea of an insurance murder plot. He adds the voice of reason and respect. He too is extremely good in his role.

Double Indemnity has such a strong story with gutsy characters that it's easy to overlook the skill and beauty of the cinematography. The use of select lighting in otherwise dark scenes is sublime. The shadows seem to embrace the actors. The composition and layout of the shots makes this film beautiful as well as provocative.

rating_4_5+

[Camo]

Double Indemnity is my favourite Wilder. Think Stanwyck may be my favourite femme fatale too.

[CosmicRunaway]

I think I'll have to rewatch Double Indemnity tonight. I'm really in the mood for a noir, and I recall thoroughly enjoying that film the last time I saw it.

[Camo]

I think I'll have to rewatch Double Indemnity tonight. I'm really in the mood for a noir, and I recall thoroughly enjoying that film the last time I saw it.

Do you remember what your general impression of Odd Man Out was out of curiosity?

I didn't love it, did like it quite a bit though.

[Nestorio_Miklos]

so here we are starting another great event. Good stuff! :):):)

I've seen but barely remember:
- His Girl Friday
- Double Indemnity
- Day of Wrath
- The Ghost and Mrs Muir

I've heard of:
- Gentleman Jim
- Unfaithfully Yours
- Beauty and the Beast


Never heard of:
- I Remember Mama
- Odd Man Out
- Body and Soul
- Ride the Pink Horse
- The Sea Wolf

[Jeff Costello]

Visible from my review, I wasn't really that enthusiastic about Double Indemnity. I much prefer Wilder's "Sunset Boulevard" and "The Lost Weekend".

[Camo]

Visible from my review, I wasn't really that enthusiastic about Double Indemnity. I much prefer Wilder's "Sunset Boulevard" and "The Lost Weekend".

Sunset Bvd. is one of my favourites of his too. The Lost Weekend is actually my least favourite of the ones i've seen though.

[CosmicRunaway]

Do you remember what your general impression of Odd Man Out was out of curiosity?
I liked it quite a bit. Was hoping someone would nominate it to give me an excuse to watch it again haha.

[Nestorio_Miklos]

Citizen Rules . sorry, are you going to name the names of nominators to each nom? thanks

[Camo]

Citizen Rules . sorry, are you going to name the names of nominators to each nom? thanks

He's leaving it secret right now as kind of an experiment.

Here - https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1711057#post1711057

[Camo]

I liked it quite a bit. Was hoping someone would nominate it to give me an excuse to watch it again haha.

While watching i actually thought it would be something you'd like. Was hoping for another The Third Man, didn't quite get there but i did like it quite a bit. Amazing that the dude made these very interesting Noirs then he somehow ended up making stuff like Oliver :sick:



no offence to anyone who likes oliver haha

[Nestorio_Miklos]

He's leaving it secret right now as kind of an experiment.

Here - https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1711057#post1711057

interesting idea however I would suggest to keep it secret only first month as a kind of surprise :D because then eventually we shd know who's and what

[Citizen Rules]

interesting idea however I would suggest to keep it secret only first month as a kind of surprise :D because then eventually we shd know who's and whatI might only keep it secret for a couple days. It wasn't planned that away but I thought I'd run with it for at least a short while. Feel free to take a guess at who posted what.:p

[Camo]

My guess is 100% correct, Citizen told me. Sorry buddy the cats out of the bag.

[Jeff Costello]

Did anyone else have trouble with deciding on the nomination? Funnily enough, my final two choices came down to films by the same director. Also I'm curious to hear what others alternatives were, if anyone is willing to share.

[CosmicRunaway]

While watching i actually thought it would be something you'd like. Was hoping for another The Third Man, didn't quite get there but i did like it quite a bit.
The Third Man is another I rather liked, but don't seem to remember much about these days.

My problem is that I watched a lot of film noirs in a short period of time like 15 years ago, and they've all kind of blurred together in my mind somewhat haha. I'll take any excuse to rewatch them though, since I love the noir aesthetic.

[Nestorio_Miklos]

i guess my guess is
:D:D:D
Odd Man Out is to CR
Ride the Pink Horse is to Cricket
Beauty and the Beast to Jeff
Day of Wrath to CosmicRunaway
I Remember Mama to Camo

the rest of them are just kind of blending :D

[Camo]

Did anyone else have trouble with deciding on the nomination? Funnily enough, my final two choices came down to films by the same director. Also I'm curious to hear what others alternatives were, if anyone is willing to share.

It was between Odd Man Out, Strawberry Blonde, The Mortal Storm and Yellow Sky for me. Was hard to decide, yeah.

If i was going with something i had already watched i would have probably have went for Paisan or The Miracle of Morgan's Creek. Films i liked alot which may not be high on everyones watchlists for the countdown.

[SilentVamp]

I Remember Mama (1948, George Stevens)
Double Indemnity (1944, Billy Wilder)
Beauty and the Beast (1946, Jean Cocteau)
The Ghost and Mrs Muir (1947, Joseph L. Mankiewicz)
This is funny. I said something last night to my mother about how these films will be revealed today. I said to her "I bet someone will nominate Double Indemnity and the French Beauty and the Beast". I also said "I hope someone nominates something like I Remember Mama", and I said "I really hope nobody nominates The Ghost and Mrs. Muir. I want people to watch it, but not right now".
:)

My whole point about The Ghost and Mrs. Muir is that if I ever thought anyone had any interest in a ghost story HoF (I would love to do one), that would've been the film that I would've nominated for that one. :)


As for what Raoul Walsh film this turned out to be, I had a feeling it was going to be an Errol Flynn picture. I was then hoping it would be They Died With Their Boots On, but I will take Gentleman Jim. :)

[CosmicRunaway]

Did anyone else have trouble with deciding on the nomination? Funnily enough, my final two choices came down to films by the same director. Also I'm curious to hear what others alternatives were, if anyone is willing to share.
The films I've already mentioned seeing were all ones I considered nominating at the start. I eventually narrowed it down to two of them. If I couldn't decide, I was just going to say screw it, and go with Treasure of the Sierra Madre instead, sort of like how I was going to just go with Raiders during the 13th HoF if I couldn't decide between Nirgendwo in Afrika and Wings of Desire.

[Camo]

i guess my guess is
:D:D:D
Odd Man Out is to CR
Ride the Pink Horse is to Cricket
Beauty and the Beast to Jeff
Day of Wrath to CosmicRunaway
I Remember Mama to Camo

the rest of them are just kind of blending :D


I'm the only one who has revealed what my nom is and it's not that :D I'm also 99% sure i've got Day of Wrath right and it's not Cosmics.

[Camo]

Treasure of the Sierra Madre

That would've challenged His Girl Friday for my #1. HGF would have won out though.

[CosmicRunaway]

My whole point about The Ghost and Mrs. Muir is that if I ever thought anyone had any interest in a ghost story HoF (I would love to do one), that would've been the film that I would've nominated for that one. :)
I'd totally join a Ghost/Supernatural HoF. :up:

[Camo]

Here's my nom for the Ghost HOF now Vamp.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nRkAUAXT_A

[cricket]

For now, I'll just say I've seen 5 of them including my own. Nobody has guessed what I nominated yet. Beauty and the Beast lol f**kin Camo.

[Nestorio_Miklos]

Here's my nom for the Ghost HOF now Vamp.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nRkAUAXT_A
when is this ghost HOF? sounds interesting

[CosmicRunaway]

That would've challenged His Girl Friday for my #1.
I was going to say that maybe I made a mistake in nominating what I did but...I stand by it.

Despite the fact that I haven't seen it in nearly 20 years.
And the fact that I think most people won't actually like it.

https://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/ad-huge-mistake-4.gif?w=650

[Camo]

when is this ghost HOF? sounds interesting

I don't know if it is happening, Vamp was just saying it would be interesting to do one.

I was only joking with that post. Because, i mean... it's called Ghost Dad. I've not seen it but it has to be some sort of masterpiece, right?

[Jeff Costello]

I won't say now what my second choice was, because than everybody would know my nomination, but I'll say some films that were definitiely under consideration.

I strongly considered Sciuscia by De Sica but ultimately decided against it because I thought it was too thematically and atmospherically similar to my nomination in 13th HoF. I also thought of perhaps nominating some of Visconti's 40's stuff and I had Brute Force by Jules Dassin as possible blind nomination. Speaking of Dassin, I found it really shame that his film "Night and the City" didn't come out couple of months earlier to be eligible, because it would possibly be my first choice.

[Jeff Costello]

Btw, I'm pretty sure I know what Cricket's nomination is.

[Citizen Rules]

This is funny. I said something last night to my mother about how these films will be revealed today. I said to her "I bet someone will nominate Double Indemnity and the French Beauty and the Beast". That's some good guessing, Vamp. I only expected one film to be nominated, The Ghost and Mrs. Muir and it was;)


I also said "I hope someone nominates something like I Remember Mama", and I said "I really hope nobody nominates The Ghost and Mrs. Muir. I want people to watch it, but not right now".
:)

My whole point about The Ghost and Mrs. Muir is that if I ever thought anyone had any interest in a ghost story HoF (I would love to do one), that would've been the film that I would've nominated for that one. :) There's been lots of movies that have been nominated twice. Laura was in the last 40s Hof and before that in the Film noir, same with Double Indemnity. A Ghost Story Hof:up: Now that you've mentioned it, you have to do it:p...and you got dibs on The Ghost and Mrs. Muir for that one too (unless it wins here).

I'm thinking Double Indemnity is a strong contender for #1 spot.

[SilentVamp]

Did anyone else have trouble with deciding on the nomination? Funnily enough, my final two choices came down to films by the same director. Also I'm curious to hear what others alternatives were, if anyone is willing to share.
I considered what was one of my choices with the first 40's HoF (which I was unable to participate in), which was The Picture of Dorian Gray. And even after I nominated what I nominated (yes, I am being careful as to not reveal which is mine :D), I still considered The Picture of Dorian Gray.

Others that I considered were:
Penny Serenade
Mrs. Miniver
Going My Way
Woman of the Year
Now, Voyager
The Corn is Green

[Nestorio_Miklos]

I don't know if it is happening, Vamp was just saying it would be interesting to do one.

I was only joking with that post. Because, i mean... it's called Ghost Dad. I've not seen it but it has to be some sort of masterpiece, right?
OMG Ghost Dad! LOL:D:D:D

[Citizen Rules]

I was going to say that maybe I made a mistake in nominating what I did but...I stand by it.

Despite the fact that I haven't seen it in nearly 20 years.
And the fact that I think most people won't actually like it.

https://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/ad-huge-mistake-4.gif?w=650
I know what your movie is:p, and I'm looking forward to watching it. I think it looks very promising.

[SilentVamp]

I'd totally join a Ghost/Supernatural HoF. :up:
when is this ghost HOF? sounds interesting
A Ghost Story Hof:up: Now that you've mentioned it, you have to do it:p
If there is enough interest (and so far there is a little bit of an interest in it :)), I will do it. It wouldn't be for awhile, of course. There are other HoF's that need to happen before that one, but I am completely up for doing one like that.

I came up with this idea last year. I just happened to watch 3 films that centered around a ghostly theme over one weekend. One was more horror (although I never consider them to be too horrific), one was suspense and the other was a comedy. So ghost story films do come in a variety of genres. I think it would be an interesting one to do.

I was only joking with that post. Because, i mean... it's called Ghost Dad. I've not seen it but it has to be some sort of masterpiece, right?
I've never seen it, but hey! It could be nominated. :D

[Camo]

On a serious note: i do love Ghost Story films and well...stories, usually even badly made/told ones. I think anyone who has read my posts here knows i'm extremely skeptical and don't believe in ghosts at all but i do love taking myself out of that and allowing myself to be creeped out.

My girlfriends mum told me a (according to her real) story that may be ghost or may be intruder that chilled me to my core the other week :laugh:

[cricket]

Just some random guesses

Ed-Sea Hawk
Jeff-Day of Wrath
Thursday-Beauty and the Beast
CR-Pink Horse
GB-His Girl Friday

[Blix the Goblin]

I was then hoping it would be They Died With Their Boots On, but I will take Gentleman Jim. :)It was a very close call between those two films, actually. I love them both, but I chose Gentleman Jim because it's Flynn's personal fave of all the movies he starred in.

I'm curious to see what everyone thinks of it. I'm also pleased to say I've only seen five of the noms. It'll make this so much more fun

[Camo]

Mark F said Gentleman Jim is his favourite Raoul Walsh film and he's seen loads of them, so i'm looking forward to it.

[Citizen Rules]

My guess:

I Remember Mama - Ed
His Girl Friday - Vamp
Double Indemnity - Raul
Gentleman Jim - Blix
Unfaithfully Yours - Nestorio
Beauty and the Beast - Cricket (in my head i saw a big rating from Cricket of this but i may be imagining it)
Day of Wrath - Thursday Next
Body and Soul - JeffCostello
The Sea Wolf - Cosmic
Ride the Pink Horse - Citizen
The Ghost and Mrs Muir - gbg Pretty good you got 3 right.

i guess my guess is
:D:D:D
Odd Man Out is to CR
Ride the Pink Horse is to Cricket
Beauty and the Beast to Jeff
Day of Wrath to CosmicRunaway
I Remember Mama to Camo

the rest of them are just kind of blending :D
You got 0 right.:p

Just some random guesses

Ed-Sea Hawk
Jeff-Day of Wrath
Thursday-Beauty and the Beast
CR-Pink Horse
GB-His Girl Friday You got 1 right.

Alright any more guesses, before I post who nominated the films?

[Camo]

Watching I Remember Mama first some time this weekend. Don't have the slightest clue what to expect, or even who nominated it haha.

[Citizen Rules]

I Remember Mama (1948, George Stevens) nominated by: Citizen

His Girl Friday (1940, Howard Hawks) nominated by: Vamp

Double Indemnity (1944, Billy Wilder) nominated by: Nesto

Odd Man Out (1947, Carol Reed) nominated by: Camo

Gentleman Jim (1942, Raoul Walsh) nominated by: Blix

Mr. Lucky (1943, H.C. Potter) nominated by: GBG

Beauty and the Beast (1946, Jean Cocteau) nominated by: Cosmic

The Ghost and Mrs Muir (1947, Joseph L. Mankiewicz) nominated by: Jeff Costello

Day of Wrath (1943, Carl Theodor Dreyer) nominated by: Thursday

Body and Soul (1947, Robert Rossen) nominated by: Cricket

Ride the Pink Horse (1947, Robert Montgomery) nominated by: Raul

The Sea Wolf (1941, Michael Curtiz) nominated by: Edarsenal

[Citizen Rules]

I've seen these and liked everyone of them:

I Remember Mama
His Girl Friday
Double Indemnity
Gentleman Jim
The Ghost and Mrs Muir

[Camo]

Really surprised Raul's was Pink Horse, not seen him mention that. Very curious now. Thought for sure his would have been Double Indemnity.

[CosmicRunaway]

For those who aren't familiar with the 1946 Beauty and the Beast, it is not a musical, and unlike other more recent adaptations, it is aimed at adults rather than families or younger audiences. The cinematography in the film was done by Henri Alekan, who was also the cinematographer for Wings of Desire (and there's the German connection for anyone wondering why I nominated a French film haha). The practical and trick effects are really impressive for the time and circumstances in which the film was made, and the costumes are really on point as well. I'm fully aware that fantasy is not everyone's cup of tea, but it is slightly more ground in reality than the other films that share the same name and source material.

[rauldc14]

Really surprised Raul's was Pink Horse, not seen him mention that. Very curious now. Thought for sure his would have been Double Indemnity.

It's a really good film. I'd say a dark horse contender here, though there are 2 that will be tough to beat.

[rauldc14]

I've always wanted to see the 40s Beauty and the Beast. Should be interesting.

[Blix the Goblin]

For those who aren't familiar with the 1946 Beauty and the Beast, it is not a musicalWell, there is always the Opera version by Philip Glass, available as an alternate track on the Criterion blu-ray.

It has received criticism but I quite like it.

[SilentVamp]

Movies I have seen:
I Remember Mama
His Girl Friday
Double Indemnity
Gentleman Jim
Unfaithfully Yours
Beauty and the Beast
The Ghost and Mrs Muir



Movies that I have not seen (but have heard of/know of them):
Odd Man Out
Day of Wrath
Body and Soul
Ride the Pink Horse
The Sea Wolf



I just re-watched Double Indemnity a couple of months ago when it was on TV. I hadn't seen it for years. I honestly wasn't really paying too much attention to it, though, because I was doing something else at the same time. So even though I have seen it again fairly recently, I will still watch it one more time for this HoF.

[Camo]

(and there's the German connection for anyone wondering why I nominated a French film haha).

Yah, was about to call for your disqualification if there wasn't something German going on.

That's great about the Cinematographer, Wings of Desire looked amazing. Heard great things about that Beauty and the Beast. Cricket loves it and was considering nominating it i believe. :D

[cricket]

I Remember Mama: I've heard this title since I was a little kid but I've never known anything about it. I used to confuse it with I Dismember Mama.

Beauty and the Beast: Haven't seen it in forever. I normally don't like these kinds of movies at this point in my life, but I'll hope for the best.

His Girl Friday: I watched it a couple years ago. I only remember liking it and will watch it again.

Double Indemnity: I watched it for the first time in 20 years about 8 months ago. I liked it, but not as much as I'd hoped. I'll watch it again.

Odd Man Out: I watched this also about 8 months ago. I was more impressed than entertained, but I'll also watch this again.

Gentleman Jim: Not familiar with it.

Unfaithfully Yours: Not familiar with it, but was there a remake with Dudley Moore?

The Ghost and Mrs. Muir: Was already on my 40's watchlist.

Day of Wrath: Was already on my 40's watchlist. I loved Ordet from the same director.

Ride the Pink Horse: Not familiar with it.

The Sea Horse: I always see this on and have almost watched it a few times. I always end up picking something on my watchlist. Well now it's on my watchlist.

Body and Soul: My nom, and a recent random watch off the noirs list. Not a typical noir, and I think it'll do well. Here's a free and legal link-

Full Movie (https://free-classic-movies.com/movies-04a/04a-1947-11-09-Body-and-Soul/index.php)

[rauldc14]

Grapes of Wrath was going to be my other possible choice, but I knew Camo was sour on it and didn't want to hear about that :)

[cricket]

Grapes of Wrath was going to be my other possible choice, but I knew Camo was sour on it and didn't want to hear about that :)

I loved Grapes of Wrath.

[Camo]

Grapes of Wrath was going to be my other possible choice, but I knew Camo was sour on it and didn't want to hear about that :)

I liked Grapes of Wrath. Just wasn't a major favourite and would be towards the bottom of Ford for me so far.

[SilentVamp]

The practical and trick effects are really impressive for the time and circumstances in which the film was made
I have seen Beauty and the Beast twice, but that was so long ago. The one thing that really stands out in my memory is the special effects.



I will begin this either some time later next week or early the following week. I want to finish the 13th first (two movies to watch and three to review) and finish the Musical Artist one, also (really just have to write a review). But then I will seriously begin this one afterwards.


I know I have said it before, but I swear there is someone in the metro area around me that follows these HoF's. Seriously. And I think that person goes to the library that I frequent because, amazingly, all of these films that are at that library are now checked out. What are the odds? Always? Interesting :yup:



I nominated His Girl Friday even though I know comedies don't do as well. I think this one is a comedy that is on a different level. No slapstick or silliness to it at all. I would even dare to go as far as saying it is more along the lines of an intellectual comedy, perhaps. I didn't want to go with a drama, as I thought that would be what most of the nominations would be. I hope people like it, but now that it has been revealed, I can be more honest and say that I knew Camo saw it and I knew he liked it. :D


Anyway, I did second guess my nomination, though. For awhile there I was honestly going to see if I could change it to The Pride of the Yankees. I kind of wanted others to watch it, too. I will just have to hold out hope for it to be on the countdown list. :)

[cricket]

^^I have Pride of the Yankees on my watchlist so I'll definitely be seeing it.

[Camo]

I know I have said it before, but I swear there is someone in the metro area around me that follows these HoF's. Seriously. And I think that person goes to the library that I frequent because, amazingly, all of these films that are at that library are now checked out. What are the odds? Always? Interesting :yup:



It's probably Raul.




think i've seen him posting that you are from the same state so if i'm mixed up disregard this haha

[cricket]

It's probably Raul.




think i've seen him posting that you are from the same state so if i'm mixed up disregard this haha

That's right, Raul likes those goofy Packers.

[rauldc14]

It's me Vamp! Sorry!

[edarsenal]

WOW, this is off and running!!
Really enjoyed the hesitation of posting who nominated what. Would have missed on every one.
Only see a couple, been wanting to see several others and some I've never heard of, so, pretty f@ckin cool!

Oh, and cricket, it's sea WOLF, not sea horse, you b@stard :laugh:
But you DID guess right! I figured you would since I mentioned it a while back when talking about Edward G Robinson

[Camo]

Sea Horse :laugh: Would've been better if he mixed it up with I Remember Horse... i mean Mama.

[edarsenal]

Sea Horse :laugh: Would've been better if he mixed it up with I Remember Horse... i mean Mama.

I was thinkin the same thing. Like they do with Bacon on youtube list of songs on albums. :)

[Citizen Rules]

Whoops! your host has made a boo-boo! I misread GBG's PM and listed her second choice movie as her first choice. My apologizes...

So Mr. Lucky (1943) is Gbgoodies nom...
Unfaithfully Yours(1948) is out and is not a part of this Hof.

Sorry folks.

[cricket]

JEsus Christ I just watched Unfaithfully Yours and it was friggin great! It would have been my #1!

[gbgoodies]

JEsus Christ I just watched Unfaithfully Yours and it was friggin great! It would have been my #1!


Then I expect to see it very high on your Top 1940s Movies List. :D

[gbgoodies]

Whoops! your host has made a boo-boo! I misread GBG's PM and listed her second choice movie as her first choice. My apologizes...

So Mr. Lucky (1943) is Gbgoodies nom...
Unfaithfully Yours(1948) is out and is not a part of this Hof.

Sorry folks.



Thanks for making the correction. :)

I love both movies, but I think most people here will enjoy Mr. Lucky (1943) more.

[edarsenal]

I always enjoy the old time flicks Cricket checks out, so if he loved Unfaithfully Yours so much, I'll probably check it out all the same.

And thanks cricket for that link for your nom. That looks like a great site to find old flicks on. VERY cool!

[rauldc14]

By the way, I'm stoked about Double Indemnity being nominated. It was be fun to watch one of my favorites yet again.

Also funny that everyone thought it was my nomination.

[Camo]

Was looking forward to Unfaithfully Yours as i've been getting into Preston Sturges. Looking at the director of Mr Lucky tho i was actually reading about Congo Maisie, Hellzapoppin' and Mr Blandings Builds His Dream House earlier this month (didn't realize they were from the same guy), those are all supposed to be really good so i'm looking forward to that too.

[Citizen Rules]

I've seen Mr Blandings Builds His Dream House, that was another that was on my possible noms list. It was a BIG list:p

[gbgoodies]

I'm not really bothered was just wondering. I'm guessing the Ghost and Mrs Muir is either yours or gbgs,


That was a good guess. The Ghost and Mrs. Muir was on my shortlist, but I decided against it because I thought too many people have already seen it. I'm glad that it was nominated by someone else.

[gbgoodies]

Did anyone else have trouble with deciding on the nomination? Funnily enough, my final two choices came down to films by the same director. Also I'm curious to hear what others alternatives were, if anyone is willing to share.


I had a lot of trouble deciding on my nom. I started with a list of about 25 movies on it, and then I just kept narrowing it down until I had a small shortlist.

This was my final shortlist:
Mr. Lucky (1943)
Unfaithfully Yours (1948)
The Ghost and Mrs. Muir (1947)
The Secret Life of Walter Mitty (1947)
The Enchanted Cottage (1945)
Yankee Doodle Dandy (1942)
The Clock (1945)
The Big Clock (1948)

[edarsenal]

that is an excellent shortlist. Never heard of The Clock, so I looked it up, looks very good and then I looked up The Big Clock with my man Laughton, ray milland and maureen o'sullivan and THAT looks VERY intriguing. Will have to check them out at some point.

[gbgoodies]

Unfaithfully Yours: Not familiar with it, but was there a remake with Dudley Moore?

I know this movie isn't in the HoF anymore, but I'll answer your question anyway.

Yes, there was a remake with Dudley Moore in 1984. It's not as good as the original, but it's a fun watch if you like Dudley Moore.


Body and Soul: My nom, and a recent random watch off the noirs list. Not a typical noir, and I think it'll do well. Here's a free and legal link-

Full Movie (https://free-classic-movies.com/movies-04a/04a-1947-11-09-Body-and-Soul/index.php)

Thanks for the link. :)

[gbgoodies]

that is an excellent shortlist. Never heard of The Clock, so I looked it up, looks very good and then I looked up The Big Clock with my man Laughton, ray milland and maureen o'sullivan and THAT looks VERY intriguing. Will have to check them out at some point.


I would have nominated The Big Clock in the second Noir HoF, but I didn't join it. (I don't remember why, but I had a good reason at the time.) If you've seen the Kevin Costner movie No Way Out (1987), it's based on the same story, and a loose remake.

[edarsenal]

just did a quick check at my library. . . they have every single one, BUT mine :rolleyes: and Camo was cool enough to find a link for that, so it looks like I'm all set to go with this one.
I think I'll start with Body and Soul in the next day or two and then see what's available next time I stop by the library.

[gbgoodies]

Was looking forward to Unfaithfully Yours as i've been getting into Preston Sturges. Looking at the director of Mr Lucky tho i was actually reading about Congo Maisie, Hellzapoppin' and Mr Blandings Builds His Dream House earlier this month (didn't realize they were from the same guy), those are all supposed to be really good so i'm looking forward to that too.


I hope you'll watch Unfaithfully Yours for the 1940's countdown anyway, but it's your decision now.

[edarsenal]

I would have nominated The Big Clock in the second Noir HoF, but I didn't join it. (I don't remember why, but I had a good reason at the time.) If you've seen the Kevin Costner movie No Way Out (1987), it's based on the same story, and a loose remake.

have seen No Way Out Been a couple of decades, but I WILL be putting The Big Clock on my watchlist. THANK YOU, GBG!!

[gbgoodies]

I've seen these movies, and I liked all of them:
His Girl Friday (1940, Howard Hawks)
Double Indemnity (1944, Billy Wilder)
Mr. Lucky (1943, H.C. Potter)
The Ghost and Mrs Muir (1947, Joseph L. Mankiewicz)

I've heard of these movies, but I haven't seen them yet:
I Remember Mama (1948, George Stevens) - (I think I've seen this, but I don't remember anything about it.)
Gentleman Jim (1942, Raoul Walsh)
The Sea Wolf (1941, Michael Curtiz)
Beauty and the Beast (1946, Jean Cocteau)

I hadn't even heard of these movies before today:
Odd Man Out (1947, Carol Reed)
Body and Soul (1947, Robert Rossen)
Day of Wrath (1943, Carl Theodor Dreyer)
Ride the Pink Horse (1947, Robert Montgomery)

[Jeff Costello]

Now that the nominations are fully disclosed, I can say that my second choice was "A Letter To Three Wives" by the same director. And I actually even considered Dragonwyck. Perhaps those two would be finer choices, but I'm still glad I went with "The Ghost and Mrs. Muir.

[Citizen Rules]

Wow, it's interesting that you guys all considered some of the same movies I did. This is all the films I had considered for this Hof. I've been considering them ever since we did the first 40s Hof, a long time!

I had a list with 77 movies, the ones with stars are the ones I finally narrowed it down to. None are in any type of order.

***Key Largo (1948) John Hoston
***I Remember Mama (1948) George Stevens
***Mildred Pierce (1945) Michael Curtiz
***Meet John Doe (1941) Frank Capra
**To Have and Have Not Howard Hawks 8.0

[CosmicRunaway]

I don't even think I can name 77 films from the 40s. :lol:

[Thursday Next]

As Camo guessed straight away, my choice was Day of Wrath. I almost nominated it for the last 'general' hall of fame and I almost didn't nominate it now because I was going to save it for the next general, but then I asked myself what one 40s movie would I most like people to see, and that was the answer. (Well, considering that I nominated Brief Encounter for a HoF before and Rope wasn't eligible).

The other films I was considering were Kind Hearts and Coronets and I Walked With a Zombie.

I've seen these films already:
The Ghost and Mrs Muir
Beauty and the Beast
Double Indemnity
His Girl Friday

Haven't seen these:
I Remember Mama
Odd Man Out
Gentleman Jim
Mr Lucky
Body and Soul
The Sea Wolf
Ride the Pink Horse

[Thursday Next]

Just looked up some of the movies. Initial thoughts:

1. Some of these movies are surprisingly not easy to get.
2. TWO MOVIES ABOUT BOXING? WHAT IS GOING ON?

[cricket]

I always enjoy the old time flicks Cricket checks out, so if he loved Unfaithfully Yours so much, I'll probably check it out all the same.

I didn't actually watch it:p

I had a lot of trouble deciding on my nom. I started with a list of about 25 movies on it, and then I just kept narrowing it down until I had a small shortlist.

This was my final shortlist:
Mr. Lucky (1943)
Unfaithfully Yours (1948)
The Ghost and Mrs. Muir (1947)
The Secret Life of Walter Mitty (1947)
The Enchanted Cottage (1945)
Yankee Doodle Dandy (1942)
The Clock (1945)
The Big Clock (1948)

I just watched that about a week ago and was surprised by how much I liked it.

Wow, it's interesting that you guys all considered some of the same movies I did. This is all the films I had considered for this Hof. I've been considering them ever since we did the first 40s Hof, a long time!

I had a list with 77 movies, the ones with stars are the ones I finally narrowed it down to. None are in any type of order.

***Key Largo (1948) John Hoston
***I Remember Mama (1948) George Stevens
***Mildred Pierce (1945) Michael Curtiz
***Meet John Doe (1941) Frank Capra
**To Have and Have Not Howard Hawks

2 of those will most likely make my 40's list, 1 will probably barely miss out, 1 is on my 40's watchlist, and the other one you nominated.

[CosmicRunaway]

https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=31007

Double Indemnity (1944)
Dir. Billy Wilder
Starring: Fred MacMurray, Barbara Stanwyck, Edward G. Robinson

The film noir visual style, with its roots in German expressionism, is incredibly appealing to me. So being the film other noirs aspired to be like, Double Indemnity certainly delivers in the cinematography department. The dark corners and strong shadows on screen are a constant dramatic presence, with the main characters frequently concealed in darkness, or framed in a prison-like light effect created by window blinds. The stark contrast between the bright exterior shots, and the carefully crafted dusty sound stage interiors complement the characters' sinister undertones beautifully. It has a rather cynical feel to it, which I thoroughly enjoy.

The film is very cleverly written as well, with a lot of great wordplay in the script, particularly between Walter and Phyllis in their earlier scenes. While I didn't think MacMurray and Stanwyck's chemistry was a strong as that between MacMurray and Robinson, it was still very plausible, and I never questioned the allure they felt for each other. I never liked Stanwyck's hair in the film, but I recently learned that it was actually a wig, and that Wilder always intended for it to look fake and slightly sleazy. Knowing that this time around, I thought it worked really well, and did a great job reflecting what kind of person Phyllis really was.

The occasionally discordant score accompanying many scenes really enhanced the film's atmosphere, though most of the time it actually went unnoticed by me, since I was too engrossed by everything else. I've been wanting to rewatch this film for a long time, but didn't nominate it because I was sure someone else would have already beaten me to the punch, and I'm glad I was right about that.

[Citizen Rules]

Glad to see another fan of Double Indemnity. It will certainly figure highly on my 1940s Countdown list... Oh, agreed on the hair! I heard Billy Wilder described it as a cheap wig and Phyllis is a cheap woman;) I liked her ankle bracelet, you just don't see woman wearing those in the 1940s, but Phyllis does.

Reading your review makes me want to watch Double Indemnity right now:p

[SilentVamp]

^^I have Pride of the Yankees on my watchlist so I'll definitely be seeing it.
The one thing that I want to say about the film is that I wasn't overly fond of Teresa Wright as the choice to play his wife. For me, I just didn't think she seemed right for the role, but others may think differently. This was a movie that I didn't care for her in. As for Gary Cooper, I think he was perfect. I honestly cannot think of another actor that could've been (then or now) as perfect of a choice to play Lou Gehrig as he Cooper was.


So [B]Mr. Lucky (1943) is Gbgoodies nom...

I saw this years ago. I don't remember much about it except for the facts that I am pretty sure I liked it and that it was one of the movies I watched when I went through my phase of trying to watch all of Cary Grant's films. :)


I've seen Mr Blandings Builds His Dream House, that was another that was on my possible noms list. It was a BIG list:p
I love Mr. Blandings Builds His Dream House. I can't lie about that. :) I would've loved to have seen this pop up in here.


The Enchanted Cottage (1945)
This was another one where I wondered if anyone would possibly nominate it. I think it is pretty good. Although I always thought Dorothy McGuire looked better "unattractive" than "attractive" in that film. :p


***Meet John Doe (1941)
I would've been happy to see this in here. :yup:


I don't even think I can name 77 films from the 40s. :lol:
My decade lists have been inspired by lists of top favorites that I made out of boredom a few years ago. And I was looking at my 40's list last year (I have yet to look this year because it is going to be a chore :() and it is over 100 films. I have no idea how I am going to work through that. :nope:


I never liked Stanwyck's hair in the film, but I recently learned that it was actually a wig
Anytime that I watched this, all I do is stare at that hair. :D It is so terrible. It will be a scene with her, and I tend to look at just her hair and think about how ugly it looks. :D I didn't know it was a wig. When I think about it now, I guess it could look like one, but I always assumed it was a hairstyle (with her own hair) that they deliberately made look that bad.

[Camo]

Been interested in seeing Pride of the Yankees for years. Gehrigs story is really sad and i've actually already seen the speech scene during the time i was really into baseball history.

[edarsenal]

I didn't actually watch it:p
ah, screw it, it looks like a fun watch: A man thinks about killing his wife with concerto's as background.
I'll check out, anyway.

Loved the write up CosmicRunaway!
Always wondered about that hairdo that Stanwyck had, that explains it.
Totally agree about the lighting and the dialogue.
Seen this movie several times, but it as been a while so I'll happily do a rewatch for this HoF

[Camo]

ah, screw it, it looks like a fun watch: A man thinks about killing his wife with concerto's as background.
I'll check out, anyway.

I almost pointed out that Cricket was joking last night, haha.

I'm going to try to watch it too, i will at some point but no guarantees it will be before the countdown. Watched two from Sturges: Sullivan's Travels which i just liked, it did get me pretty obsessed with Veronica Lake tho, and The Miracle of Morgan's Creek which was a big surprise and has a good chance of making my 40's list.

[edarsenal]

I almost pointed out that Cricket was joking last night, haha.

I'm going to try to watch it too, i will at some point but no guarantees it will be before the countdown. Watched two from Sturges: Sullivan's Travels which i just liked, it did get me pretty obsessed with Veronica Lake tho, and The Miracle of Morgan's Creek which was a big surprise and has a good chance of making my 40's list.

I'm just too effin gullible on this site. :rolleyes::D I fall for that fake name joke where you read your name in the post, every frickin time someone puts it up lol

[Camo]

Also, sorry for double posting but the first few days of these HOF's are the best right? Everyone seems really excited about the films they haven't seen and there's usually a much higher rate of posts than when people have settled down and started watching the nominations. Obviously i love the discussions too but i find them lacking sometimes, only because everyone is watching stuff at different times and sometimes it feels weird repeating yourself or you've moved on from that film when a discussion about it comes up or whatever. I have a habit of rushing through these as well, it's not really deliberate but i think it's probably because i don't want to miss out on any discussions.

[Camo]

I'm just too effin gullible on this site. :rolleyes::D I fall for that fake name joke where you read your name in the post, every frickin time someone puts it up lol

haha. I think i speak for everyone when i say we love you for it ;)

[rauldc14]

I'd be curious as to your thoughts on Palm Beach Story too Camo.

[Camo]

I'd be curious as to your thoughts on Palm Beach Story too Camo.

Are you a fan? Just googled it there and apparently i've visited its IMDB page but i don't remember that. I definitely want to see all of Sturges films but i need to see how many i'm able to fit in, i'd rather watch a bunch from a bunch of directors than focus on a small few. It's definitely on my radar now.

[edarsenal]

Also, sorry for double posting but the first few days of these HOF's are the best right? Everyone seems really excited about the films they haven't seen and there's usually a much higher rate of posts than when people have settled down and started watching the nominations. Obviously i love the discussions too but i find them lacking sometimes, only because everyone is watching stuff at different times and sometimes it feels weird repeating yourself or you've moved on from that film when a discussion about it comes up or whatever. I have a habit of rushing through these as well, it's not really deliberate but i think it's probably because i don't want to miss out on any discussions.

Totally agree. The very beginning IS the very best part of these HoFs. Everyone is excited and talking about what they've seen, what they're curious to see. . .
and it is hard to catch the discussions, especially when you see any particular movie, quite some time later.
Though, near the end, I'll actually try to catch up on them, or after I seen one I remember a good discussion was on, before writing a review, just in case there was something poignant I wanted to comment on, or consider as I do the write up.

[rauldc14]

Are you a fan? Just googled it there and apparently i've visited its IMDB page but i don't remember that. I definitely want to see all of Sturges films but i need to see how many i'm able to fit in, i'd rather watch a bunch from a bunch of directors than focus on a small few. It's definitely on my radar now.

Didn't mind it. Not a favorite but I can see how it could be for some.

[Citizen Rules]

...Watched two from Sturges: Sullivan's Travels which i just liked, it did get me pretty obsessed with Veronica Lake...I knew that... and I just about went with a Veronica Lake movie. I figured even if no one liked it, you'd like to see her;)

... Obviously i love the discussions too but i find them lacking sometimes, only because everyone is watching stuff at different times...

Totally agree. The very beginning IS the very best part of these HoFs. Everyone is excited and talking about what they've seen, what they're curious to see. . .
and it is hard to catch the discussions, especially when you see any particular movie, quite some time later... Agreed with you guys on that.

I was thinking we could have a watch list, like Sean did for the Hitch thread. Strictly optional of course, but for those who were interested it might have some of us on the same page, as we'd be watching the same movie around the same time.

I don't know how interested people would be in that, so I didn't mention it.

Back later, more errands to do.

[Camo]

Didn't mind it. Not a favorite but I can see how it could be for some.

Hope you check out The Miracle of Morgan's Creek, maybe it will just be me but i loved it.

For the record it's not close to my current top 10 40's films which is awesome coz i'm finding so much i like from the decade, but also depressing coz i'll need to kick it out of my 25 at some point maybe.

[Camo]

I knew that... and I just about went with a Veronica Lake movie. I figured even if no one liked it, you'd like to see her;)



Agreed with you guys on that.

I was thinking we could have a watch list, like Sean did for the Hitch thread. Strictly optional of course, but for those who were interested it might have some of us on the same page, as we'd be watching the same movie around the same time.

I don't know how interested people would be in that, so I didn't mention it.

Back later, more errands to do.

I've thought of that idea too, but in all honesty i don't think what i said there is an actual problem or flaw of the HOF's. Something i've noticed is that they usually get everyone to get to know each other, i think the smaller groups that can have discussions together at times are useful so the louder members (like me who never shuts up) don't drown them out. I also don't think there'd be a drastic change in discussion even if there was some strict schedule, (i know that's not what you're suggesting i'm just saying even if that was possible and was kept to i don't think it would be a big enough change for it to be worth becoming so robotic) i think this is about the height of internet movie discussion we can have between multiple members from different timezones and work/time schedules. I'm not actually complaining about it because these are definitely my favourite part of the site; never thought anything would replace the Countdowns but they have, i was just pointing out why i think the first few days are the best at least collectively.

[SilentVamp]

I was thinking we could have a watch list, like Sean did for the Hitch thread. Strictly optional of course, but for those who were interested it might have some of us on the same page, as we'd be watching the same movie around the same time.
Maybe I am remembering something incorrectly, but wasn't this tried once before where members tried to all watch (or at least the ones who were able to do so) some of the same movies at the same time?
If I am wrong, then I am getting it mixed up with something else.
But if I am correct, I think it worked in the beginning, but slowly everyone just started watching whatever movie that they decided to watch next.
Like I said, I could be getting it mixed up with something else.

I could try it, but, for the most part, I watch the films that I don't own in the order that they arrive at the library. So I don't know how much I would be active in a discussion on a film that I can't obtain right away (if I haven't seen the film, I wouldn't know what everyone else was talking about anyway).

Hope you check out The Miracle of Morgan's Creek, maybe it will just be me but i loved it
I loved this one, too.

[cricket]

I'd be curious as to your thoughts on Palm Beach Story too Camo.

Not my kind of movie normally but I really liked that, and that's with me being lukewarm on Joel McCrae as a leading man.

[Camo]

Maybe I am remembering something incorrectly, but wasn't this tried once before where members tried to all watch (or at least the ones who were able to do so) some of the same movies at the same time?


There's been alot of 'movie of the month' type threads, it doesn't work which is why they always end up with shocking participation rates.

Every single one of them will probably start with a post from me saying i'll try to take part and i never do, not because of anything to do with the movie but the format, i end up not caring.

[Camo]

I mean, lets wait three weeks for an interesting opinion...blah. The harsh but not too harsh demands of the HOF's are the best.

[edarsenal]

the small groups do work pretty nice.
Gotten to know more people through the HoFs and enjoy the discussions I do have opportunities to jump in.
And of course, miss the ones I don't make it to, but try to read through them later on when I can. So it all kinda works out like a favorite pub. You pop in, see a few, miss a few. . .

[Citizen Rules]

Guys and gals, I wasn't meaning a different format or anything like that when I said it would be cool if some of us watched the same film around the same time. I meant within the Hof format, just us members. Like with Topsy's nom Lilya 4 Ever in the 10th Hof, where several of us watched it within a few days and got a good convo going, then a few more people watched it next and joined in. That's all I meant.

So...if anyone wants to call out what movie they are watching next, I will try to watch it next also (if I have it).

[edarsenal]

well, I just finished Body and Soul, minutes ago.
Let me know if that works. I'll be posting a review tomorrow.

There's been 3 reviews for Double Indemnity. . .

and if anyone else wants to try this, I'm pretty happy catching the discussions I can, when I can. So, if a few folks time in whenever, however, and we continue as we have at the same time; we all watch whatever we decided and chime in when we can; should be kinda cool.

[gbgoodies]

After watching the movie Body and Soul, the scenes between 15 and 20 minutes of this episode of "The Dick Van Dyke Show" make a lot more sense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7te8Q1TwsZY

[CosmicRunaway]

I only have Odd Man Out, The Sea Wolf, and Beauty and the Beast available to watch right now (plus Cricket provided a link for Body and Soul). I haven't looked for the other films yet, but I can do so today.

Since Ed and GBG both just posted about having seen Body and Soul recently, maybe I'll go with that next. I was going to rewatch Odd Man Out, but maybe it would be best to space the noirs out a bit more.

[Thursday Next]

Double Indemnity

Unpopular opinion time: I didn’t really like this movie. I watched it and all the parts were there but it didn’t do anything for me. I found it stilted (is that the right word?) and unengaging. Even more unpopular opinion time: I don’t care that much for Sunset Boulvevard either. The Lost Weekend is all right. No, The Lost Weekend is good, it’s a really well made film, I just don’t feel much of a connection to it, and it’s kind of the same with this one. And Ace in the Hole. On the other hand, I like Stalag 17 and Sabrina. I really like Witness For the Prosecution, The Apartment and The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes. And I love Some Like it Hot. I have pondered my reactions to Billy Wilder films and come to the conclusion that I like them more the less serious they are. There’s something a little too serious and straight maybe about his earlier dramas for my taste.

The other thing is, I really like the film Body Heat. And I’d read that it was sort of based on Double Indemnity so I was fully expecting to like it but… I just didn’t. Give me The Postman Always Rings Twice over this any day. The characters and their relationships and motivations didn’t gel for me, the framing structure and the voiceover were distancing, it just seemed to lack emotion.

I know I’m in a minority in this, and it isn’t even as though it’s a badly made film I can pick holes in, it just wasn’t for me.

[Thursday Next]

Beauty and the Beast

I admired this movie, but I didn’t love it. It wasn’t as enchanting as I hoped it would be, but it is still impressive. I found it a little gloomy, but on the other hand I don’t think it would have worked had it not been in black and white. The black and white, the shadows are integral to the film.

This is unmistakably a Jean Cocteau film, written and directed by Cocteau, full of Jean Cocteau-ness. However, what I didn’t notice before is that Rene Clement (director of Forbidden Games and Plein Soleil) is credited on imdb as director (uncredited). I suspect there’s a story behind the production of this film that’s at least as interesting as the film itself. Jean Marais, Cocteau’s lover and frequent collaborator, plays two parts - the Beast and Avenant, the handsome but untrustworthy man who wants to marry Belle (an equivalent of the Disney version’s Gaston, perhaps), and the two characters sort of merge together. Or swap. Or something. Like a fairytale Performance.

Parts of it make little sense - some things they say (perhaps lost in translation), some lack of consistency, (the character of Ludovic). There’s a lot of symbolism going on, to the point that it’s not always clear what is real within the terms of the film. The performances are a bit artificial. In fact too much of it is artificial. Not that it should be going for realism, but I feel like a fantasy type of film should transport you into believing in its world and its too inconsistent to quite achieve that. The character of Belle is a little undefined and she comes across as a bit indecisive. It’s more like dreamy film poetry than a film with a sensible plot, but that’s kind of the point, I think.

Mostly I was left with an abiding impression that it is amazing what could be done with make-up and special effects in the 40s that people rely on cgi to do these days *cough* 2017 Beauty and the Beast *cough*.

[cricket]

I was planning on rewatching Double Indemnity last night but got tired so I'll see it today. But you know Thursday, every word you said in that write up I identified with, from how you felt about all of Wilder's films, to Body Heat, to The Postman Rings Twice.

[Jeff Costello]

I share the same sentiment with Thursdays on Double Indemnity, but I kind of had the opposite response with Witness for Procesution. Even though I did like it, my problem was that lighthearted and comical elements really stopped me from taking the story too seriously (despite being really funny), hence making me not completely invested and preventing me from completely loving it.

Either way, I think I'll watch Body and Soul today, as it seems to be a trending film atm. I love boxing flicks so this should be a treat. And also looking at the pics, I kind of get Max Schmeling vibe from John Garfield.

[Nestorio_Miklos]

i've just sent the list to Camo on 13th HOF so now I'm free starting to watch 1940s noms. I'm gonna start with
I Remember Mama

[Citizen Rules]

Just looked up some of the movies. Initial thoughts:

1. Some of these movies are surprisingly not easy to get.
If anyone has difficulties finding online sources for the movies PM me, I will try to find a link.


Since Ed and GBG both just posted about having seen Body and Soul recently, maybe I'll go with that next. I was going to rewatch Odd Man Out, but maybe it would be best to space the noirs out a bit more. I decided to watch Body and Soul too, so I will work on a write up. I noticed some interesting things in the movie, that I wonder what others thought?

[Citizen Rules]

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Body and Soul (1947, Robert Rossen)


Right off the start....I noticed this had some impressive people working on it. The Assistant Director is Robert Aldrich and the Cinematographer is the legendary, James Wong Howe. The story unfolds seamlessly with just the right touch of artistic cinematography but not too much for a boxing movie. Every element fits together nicely, a very smooth movie.

Boxing rags to riches....this is the kind of story I love. We hunker down and really get to know the characters and their neighborhood. We're transported back in time to the depression era in a poor New York neighborhood full of gambling, speakeasies and hoods trying to make a quick buck. This all looked pretty real to me too.

My favorite scenes....were the ones early in the film when John Garfield's buddy 'Shorty', tries hustling the big man in the pool hall, played to perfection by William Conrad. I love the way he keeps trying to promote his boxing buddy and won't give up for nothing, he's very gutsy. And that's what the film is about, going for the bucks and the glory and not ever looking back, no matter who gets hurt.

The Boxing scenes....Geez those looked real to me. I don't follow boxing but Garfield looked like he knew his way around the ring. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that he was a boxer at some point in his life. The other wickedly cool thing about the boxing scenes was the way they were filmed. To me it looked like a different camera was used, as it looked more grainy than the reaction shots of the crowd watching the match. I'd wouldn't be surprised to learn that they used a super 8mm or something along those lines. I can't put my finger on it, I just know the format looks different and so does the frame rate, it seemed reduced.

The Cast....I like John Garfield as an actor, but I like him best when he plays troubled characters with a huge chip on their shoulder. He was good here too, but I never cared about what happened to him. I didn't care if he won the day or got the girl...and I think that's because his character doesn't have heart and so I couldn't sympathize with him.

Lilli Palmer I did like her, she had this intellectual air about her that contrasted well with Garfield, while being sensible and down to earth, which is a bit odd for an artist if you think about it. She's pretty too, and that's a plus.

Did anybody think that Ann Revere who plays the mother, looked like the Professor from Gilligan's Island?

rating_3_5

[cricket]

I never saw Gilligan's Island but I thought the actress who played the mother was fantastic.

[cricket]

I think the difference between you liking it and me loving it was Garfield's character. I thought he grew as a person as it went along.

[Citizen Rules]

Yup, she was pretty good alright. She didn't really look that old in real life, so maybe the stage make up made her look like the Professor.

I think the difference between you liking it and me loving it was Garfield's character. I thought he grew as a person as it went along. Exactly, for me Garfield kept me from loving it, and I did like everything about the movie, it's an intelligent film, but I never connected to his character.

My favorite all time boxing movie is Golden Boy (1939) with a young William Holden and Barbara Stanwyck. The script of Body and Soul reminded me a lot of that film.

[cricket]

I saw it compared to Golden Boy when I read up on it.

[Citizen Rules]

I see we have another John Garfield movie, The Sea Wolf...so that will be interesting to see what type of character he plays.

I just about nominated another movie he was in, Humoresque with Joan Crawford, have you seen that yet?

[cricket]

No, but I also heard of that when reading about Body and Soul.

[Jeff Costello]

Body and Soul (1947) - Robert Rossen

The moment I read the shortened synopsis, I knew I was going to like this film. Boxing films are the genre I really enjoy and I guess I could say I'm fairly knowledgable about the sport, even the era of 30's and 40's. This wasn't a classic boxing film per se though, as it tackled subjects like greed, corruption and insatiable ambition. Body and Soul featured some very nice cast performances, especially by the lead John Garfield. He was very good as a determined and angry young man, who's major goal in life is to escape the claws of poverty, even if it means hurting the people he loves. I really liked how his character was constructed, as he was generally presented as a good willed and likeable, but still with some glaring flaws. Lili Palmer accompanied Garfield nicely, and sort of served as an intelectual complement to his rugged exterior. Despite how despicable and trashy her character was, I also really enjoyed the performance by Hazel Brooks as well. The story was well versed and nicely done. I found myself really engaged throughough the film's course. Now that I think about it, there was only one scene that didn't really make sense and which kind of bothered me ...

It was a scene of Ben's death. After he fell down, he was obviously in the state of delirium. Why did they let him run loose and tire himself to death, when they could of lay him down and have him rest for a while? That really didn't make sense to me ...

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I was very pleased with the fighting scenes. They presented the style of fighting that was used in that era, with a lot of rubber matches and more agressiveness. The cinematography was suprisingly good, particularlly the close-up shots of Garfield's bloodied face filled with motivating anger, during the final scenes. It actually reminded me of certain shots from Raging Bull. I kind of excpected that the film would end on a gloomier note, but I still thought it was a solid ending. To conclude this is a very entertaining and enjoyable sports drama. I was not completely blown away by it, but I still liked it a great deal.

[cricket]

Glad you liked it Ben, and regarding your question in spoilers, I thought some of the people present wanted it to happen.

It also reminded me of Raging Bull.

[Jeff Costello]

I think I'll watch "Day of Wrath" or "Beauty and the Beast" next. Not sure when that'll be though.

[cricket]

Regarding Beauty and the Beast; I thought I saw that version but now I don't think so. Thoughts on Double Indemnity coming up after pizza and dog walking.

[rauldc14]

I won't get to any of these for awhile, but this is going to be a hell of a hall of fame.

[Citizen Rules]

Body and Soul (1947) - Robert Rossen

...John Garfield...was very good as a determined and angry young man, who's major goal in life is to escape the claws of poverty, even if it means hurting the people he loves. I like what you wrote there, especially the part I bolded. I agree with all that too, though I didn't see him as being particular angry.


Despite how despicable and trashy her character was, I also really enjoyed the performance by Hazel Brooks as well. Yup, she was really colorful and her character demonstrates that the fruits of craving wealth above ethics, leads to unhappiness.

[CosmicRunaway]

I really don't care for boxing, so hopefully that doesn't impact my enjoyment of Body and Soul too much. I didn't mind watching some of that Hajime no Ippo show for the TV Tournament (I think it was one of Camo's nominations, but don't quote me on that), so it probably has a fair shot.

I won't get to watch it tonight because I'm leaving shortly to go see a different movie at the theatre, but I should have plenty of time tomorrow.

[Citizen Rules]

Alright, back to work for me:indifferent:...but one thing more about Body and Soul before I go...

When you guys watch it, pay attention to the smoking scenes by Lilli Palmer, or I should say the scenes where she looks like she's just about to smoke, but doesn't.

I thought those scenes were clever and said a lot about her character's emotions at the time. I've never seen that done in another old movie either.

[cricket]

Double Indemnity

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Ok so this was my third time watching this. I had seen it first about 20 years ago and remembered it fondly, even though I could hardly remember it at all. I watched it again about 8 months ago and felt like I did about Laura (the 40's Hall of Fame part I winner that should be disqualified), that it was an extremely well put together film, but one that didn't excite me. I don't know what I was smoking, but this time I loved it. Last time, I thought the last third was a bit of a let down, but that's not the case at all. I also wasn't thrilled with Fred MacMurray. Basically, I thought he lacked the star power that I would normally look for in such a role. I still think that's something he lacks, but he's actually perfect for the role. His character is a sap, and a more charismatic star may not have played it so naturally. Anyone notice how, on his second visit to the Dietrichson house, when Phyllis answers the door, he's leaning to the side like a woman trying to be sexy? That told me the character lacked confidence. It's not believable that Phyllis could fall for Walter, but it's certainly believable that she could make him fall for her. It's the brilliant early scenes with the two of them that set the tone for the rest of the movie. Somehow there is chemistry between them, and while maybe not natural, the dialogue is almost too good to be true. MacMurray and Stanwyck are both terrific, and so is Edward G. Robinson. I love watching this actor, and it seems like I've seen him in a bunch of 40's films after not being familiar with his work before. In reality, I'm not sure why I'm not rating the film any higher. I feel like it is practically flawless, and this time I was thoroughly engaged and entertained. I was ready to come in here and be negative about it, and for whatever reason it just clicked with me this time. I think The Apartment will always be my favorite Billy Wilder film, but this one is at least up there with Some Like it Hot and Witness for the Prosecution. I've seen 12 of his movies in total, and the only one I didn't like was The Seven Year Itch. I'm lukewarm on The Lost Weekend and Sunset Blvd. as well, but I'm a fan of the rest. I wasn't thrilled to see this nominated at first, but I am now.

4.5

[seanc]

I think The Apartment is still my fave Wilder but Double Indemnity is a close second. Love Robinson in it. Probably top 5 supporting performance for me. :up:

[edarsenal]

I've seen Double Indemnity quite a few times in my life and like everyone here, it has run hot and, at times, cold for me. Not sure why, perhaps it's simply my state of mind at any giving viewing. I DO have a lot of respect for the movie and enjoy the dialogue and the actors in it and what they achieve. So I'll be very curious to see where I go with when I do my re-watch for it.

Great write ups everyone, and I agree, cricket about MacMurray fitting the role as a sap and I do remember that scene when he's at the door and leaning against the door jamb trying to be alluring and how it always makes me chuckle. It really does illustrate his awkwardness and lack of confidence, rather well.

[edarsenal]

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Body and Soul


Anna Davis: I did it to buy myself fancy clothes? Fool! It's for you! To learn, to get an education, to make something of yourself!
Charlie Davis: [yelling to Shorty] Shorty! Shorty, get me that fight from Quinn. I want money. Do you understand? Money, money!
Anna Davis: I forbid, I forbid. Better buy a gun and shoot yourself.
Charlie Davis: You need MONEY to buy a gun!

***THERE BE SPOILERS AHEAD***

The very first thing I would like to mention, (to my enjoyment) was the link that cricket provided for this movie. There's an underlying scratchy noise that is reminiscent of old time movie projectors that really added something special to the viewing of this movie that bordered on nostalgic.

For the life of me, I cannot remember if I have, or haven't seen this. There are a number of familiar things and so many that are new to me. Regardless, this was, and is, a very solid movie and a great portrayal of, what is now, a very common scenario. The Rise to Riches and the inevitable downfall.

John Garfield does an excellent job, while at the same time he doesn't actually, for me, garner empathy. Which I think is a very positive thing. I've seen so many films where you are drawn to the character that fights his way to the top, only to be devoured by the vultures that lie in wait, for new fodder.
There is a realistic grittiness (I hate to use that word, but it's too d@mn apropos) to Garfield's character. He's no philosophy, no idealist in search of a better life. While, at the same time, he's not a brawling ape either. He's a fighter. From a poor neighbor, wanting the good life and willing to take it at any price. Though, in the end, that price never sits well with him. And with that, there is a kind of redemption in his darkest hours.

Through this, there is a strong cast of characters that plays out almost like a Shakespearean play. Covering the archetypal roles.
The Savvy Best Friend who believes in him and does his all to get him in the door. Suffering a violent death for his troubles.
The Good, Honest Parents who only want something better for him. Both of which were done with genuine sincerity. The mother's wisdom and comments were some of the best lines for me.
The Good Woman who is left behind for the allure of money and fame. I really loved this character. She had an artistic intellect that was a wonderful contrast that complemented both of them.
The Greedy Woman that Seduces. While she played a basic character, there was a lot of depth and mixtures of tragedy and bravado that was done with surpassing talent.
The Corrupt Manager and the Sovereign Gangster. Much like the Greedy Woman, not only did they play their parts very well, they also brought a lot more to those parts than the usual expectations of such characters.
Finally, the Possible Future and Past played by the old champ; Ben Chaplin, and the up and coming; Marlowe. With them we see the recycling of the fodder that the greedy and the parasitic callously feed upon. It is through them, especially Ben Chaplin, lies the crossroad that Garfield's character; Charlie, must face and, in the end, decide his own fate.

For the sojourn itself, it is a rough, unforgiving journey which is filmed with great finesse.
It opens near the end and then we flash back.
One of my favorite scenes was actually during the montage that showed close ups as he went from fight to fight and the bruises and blood grew more and more apparent. Letting us know the grinder he was being put through.

Surprisingly, this is becoming a bit of an epic review and I scarcely got into the camera work and only skimmed the surface of the story telling. So, as not to ramble on and on, I'll shut da f@ck up and close by saying:

While, nowadays, this is an exceedingly common story that has been done to near death; Body and Soul does it . . . well, like the title says: with body AND soul.

[cricket]

3 good reactions out of 3 viewings for Body and Soul. I'll take it, although it may have been from the 3 members most likely to enjoy it. I don't think anyone will dislike it though.

[edarsenal]

the film making, story and acting is pretty solid. I got a feeling it'll do pretty well.

[CosmicRunaway]

It's not believable that Phyllis could fall for Walter, but it's certainly believable that she could make him fall for her.
While physical attraction likely played a part, to me it seemed like it had more to do with both of them liking the idea and the temptation more so than they actually liked each other.

[cricket]

While physical attraction likely played a part, to me it seemed like it had more to do with both of them liking the idea and the temptation more so than they actually liked each other.

I felt like it was her plan all along but I didn't think of that on his end. He was obviously into her immediately, but yea, he also seemed into the plan.

[CosmicRunaway]

I just finished watching Body and Soul. Write-up forthcoming, after I get something to eat.

To me it looked like a different camera was used, as it looked more grainy than the reaction shots of the crowd watching the match. I'd wouldn't be surprised to learn that they used a super 8mm or something along those lines. I can't put my finger on it, I just know the format looks different and so does the frame rate, it seemed reduced.
I noticed this as well. I didn't pick up on it during the montage, but for the big fight at the end there was a very clear difference. I liked the effect it created.

Now that I think about it, there was only one scene that didn't really make sense and which kind of bothered me ...It was a scene of Ben's death. After he fell down, he was obviously in the state of delirium. Why did they let him run loose and tire himself to death, when they could of lay him down and have him rest for a while? That really didn't make sense to me ...
I was under the impression that they didn't realize Ben tiring himself out would actually kill him. I thought they just wanted him to wear out so they could easily get him to a doctor.

[cricket]

I put I Remember Mama on my Netflix queue for next Saturday, and I'll probably watch a couple more before than.

[CosmicRunaway]

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Body and Soul (1947)
Dir. Robert Rossen
Starring: John Garfield, Lilli Palmer, Joseph Pevney

I'm not a fan of boxing, and might even go as far as saying that I find almost everything about it repulsive. Fortunately, none of that bias had any impact on my enjoyment of Body of Soul, which is as much a film about corruption, hubris, and the seductive powers of success and money as it is the story about a poor Jewish kid who becomes a World-class boxer. The plot is nothing new, but it's told in a very engaging manner which captivated me from beginning to end.

There's a lot of great cinematography in this film, particularly with how some of the shots are aligned. The height disparity between certain characters stood out to me, such as Roberts asserting his power by standing over Charlie on the stairs before the last match, and I also enjoyed the framing of Charlie in the interior window when he visits his mother early in the film. While the revolving wall in Charlie's apartment was a little gimmicky, I did like the visual symbolism and how it reflected Charlie himself throughout the film.

Body and Soul is something I likely never would have watched if it hadn't been nominated, so I'm very glad that it was. I was a little apprehensive going in, due to its association with a sport I don't like, but the only thing I walked away dissatisfied with the fact that Garfield looked far too old to be called a kid so often, but since that's a common problem with films from this era (and sometimes today still, really), I'm not going to hold that against it.

[cricket]

Glad you liked it Cosmic:)


Garfield passed away when he was only 39.

[Jeff Costello]

Neat piece of trivia on Body and Soul...

"To get a more fluid camera movement in the boxing ring, cinematographer James Wong Howe filmed the fight while holding the camera and being pushed by an assistant as he wore roller skates."

[SilentVamp]

I requested all of the films that I needed to. Now it is just having to wait for them to come in (I had to put off requesting them because I had too many things on hold - which I picked up yesterday - and I couldn't request anymore until now).

I don't plan on going back until Thursday. Hopefully the other movies will be returned by then. The only problem is that one of them is due on Thursday. Plus they will get a 3 day grace period. Essentially, the person won't bring it back until the weekend. :mad:

Anyway, we'll see how things turn out with it all, but I will try to get the ones watched, that seem to be watched so far, to keep up with everyone else the best that I can.

[Citizen Rules]

Is anybody having a hard time finding Mr. Lucky (1943)? I had a hard time finding a link but did find one. Also it's available on iTunes, YouTube, VuDu, and Google Play. Let me know if you can't find it.

[cricket]

Is anybody having a hard time finding Mr. Lucky (1943)? I had a hard time finding a link but did find one. Also it's available on iTunes, YouTube, VuDu, and Google Play. Let me know if you can't find it.

I could use that link. I tried yesterday morning for a short time but didn't find one. If it doesn't work for me, I'll watch it on iTunes.

[Thursday Next]

His Girl Friday

I have seen this film twice. Partly because I remembered so little of it the first time round, but I’m not sure why as the second time it certainly stuck with me. Perhaps it’s because they all talk so fast I missed what they were saying!

A sharp, snappy kind of a film, with the sort of charming but largely amoral characters Cary Grant does so well. There’s some great witty dialogue in this - the bit where somebody says Walter has a lot of charm, and Hildy replies that he has it naturally, his grandfather was a snake sticks in my mind. You can’t really root for him because he’s such a - well, a snake - but by the end of the film there’s the definite feeling that he and Hildy deserve each other, for better or worse.

The climax of this film is frankly a little ridiculous, in true screwball comedy style. In fact, none of it is in the least bit plausible and it’s all rather theatrical but then that is the style of film it is. I think your mileage will depend on your tolerance for the things in this film that could be irritating, and to be honest it did cross that irritating line for me more than once.

It seems like it was a bit of a thing in older films to have ex-husbands and wives getting back together. See also The Philadelphia Story, The Awful Truth, Private Lives and any number of others. I do wonder why it was so popular. But then I suppose exes rekindling some kind of flame is a trope that hasn’t entirely gone out of style these days either.

[Citizen Rules]

Body and Soul (1947)

There's a lot of great cinematography in this film, particularly with how some of the shots are aligned. The height disparity between certain characters stood out to me, such as Roberts asserting his power by standing over Charlie on the stairs before the last match

Good call, I didn't notice that when I watched it, but I could see that being very effective.

and I also enjoyed the framing of Charlie in the interior window when he visits his mother early in the film. Ahh, I did notice that shot and yup it was impressive. I would have liked that shot even more if we couldn't hear what they were saying in the kitchen, but we seen the emotions change on the mother's face from somber to happy.

While the revolving wall in Charlie's apartment was a little gimmicky, I did like the visual symbolism and how it reflected Charlie himself throughout the film.I think the wet bar rotated out of sight as it was prohibition time and the alcohol needed to be hid in case of the cops:eek:

[Citizen Rules]

His Girl Friday


It seems like it was a bit of a thing in older films to have ex-husbands and wives getting back together. See also The Philadelphia Story, The Awful Truth, Private Lives and any number of others. I do wonder why it was so popular. But then I suppose exes rekindling some kind of flame is a trope that hasn’t entirely gone out of style these days either. I would venture a guess, and say that was a way to have a married couple being 'naughty' and still have the film pass the Hays Office.