I feel I owe an apology to this board

[dteam6]

I thought I'd put this in a thread so that we can all move forward with this understanding.


I feel that I've handled several things the wrong way during my short tenure on this board and I'd like to apologize.


As many know, I'm a refugee from IMDB. Since I've been here, I've been constantly on guard and VERY defensive. I feel that I've made a mistake in that regard.


Where I came from, I had to be on guard constantly. Everyone was attacking everyone there. Insults left and right. It was like the Tatooine cantina over there amplified x1000. So, when I came here, I think I carried that IMDB mentality with me and, as a result, have been quite guarded over here. Sometimes it's difficult to tell humor from insults around here and, given where I came from, I mostly just see insults instead of that unique brand of humor you guys have.


While I won't deny that I have had some ACTUAL problems here, I realize now that some of what's transpired has been a result of a mixture of misunderstandings from both sides and me being so guarded.


I guess I'm still trying to figure out the lay of the land here and you guys are, understandably, marking your territory and I've been taking it the wrong way.


Yoda was right--cultures have collided here and some MoFo's expect IMDB aggression (which it's known for) and some of us IMDB alums are expecting aggression from others. The end result is a myriad of misunderstandings


I'm actually quite decent when you get to know me (or so my friends say, heh heh) and I lasted ELEVEN years on IMDB without ever getting a ban.


Another problem is that many of you have been quite respectful and nice to me and I feel that I never gave those of you who were your due credit--I just dwelled on the negative and never let my guard down.


Well, I'd like to change that, starting today.

I'd like to start by thanking those of you who treated me well and let you know that you're the main reason I stuck it out here. I owe it to those of you decent folks to try to make it work.


So, I'm going to do my best to let my guard down more as well as handle situations differently should they arise. If my other buddies can make it work here and forge a way then there's no reason why I can't either.


So, I think I can speak for many when I say this: we ALL need to let our guards down enough forge ahead because, from what I can see, there's far more good here than bad and there's no reason why our "cultures" can't mesh.


So, for anyone who may be getting fed up with me, I ask that you please be patient as I'm adjusting and I will put forth more effort to let my guard down and integrate myself into this community more.


I thank you and look forward to starting over. 👍

[seanc]

Hope I didn't cause you any grief. I think you have been a good addition to the board Dteam. See you around. :up:

[cricket]

Awesome stuff, and I believe you are probably a good guy. It's too bad about the other dude, probably a good guy too.

[Omnizoa]

Assuming you've unblocked me so you can read this, then that's big of you. No hard feelings from me.

[The Rodent]

I think the fact you lasted 11 years on IMDb is testament to your patience.
I think I lasted 11 seconds.


All is good though, D... :)

[Nestorio_Miklos]

i like it :up: :up:

[ash_is_the_gal]

it's all gonna be fine. it always takes a bit of time when things like this happen... i knew things would iron themselves out on their own eventually. it's cool that you made this thread though. happy posting.

[Citizen Rules]

Why the change of heart all of a sudden? I'm quite surprised. What has prompted all of this?

[TheUsualSuspect]

Why the change of heart all of a sudden? I'm quite surprised. What has prompted all of this?

I had a stern talking with him.

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[Dani8]

Good to see, deat. I was really looking forward to us talking up a storm when BCS starts up. I posted some stuff for you in there yesterday.

[dteam6]

Hope I didn't cause you any grief. I think you have been a good addition to the board Dteam. See you around. :up:
Not you, dude. Not at all. I never had any issues with you, believe me. In fact, you waged debate exactly as a person should. I respect you. :up:

[Sexy Celebrity]

https://media.giphy.com/media/jeXiz1RAvzX44/giphy.gif

[dteam6]

Why the change of heart all of a sudden? I'm quite surprised. What has prompted all of this?
A lot of things, really. Mainly some heart-to-hearts with a couple friends that I really appreciate. That and some soul-searching.


I'm not saying that I attribute EVERYTHING to me being guarded (some of those issues WERE problems) but I can acknowledge that some of those problems were probably brought on by misunderstandings from both sides as well as me not "getting" the humor around here. That and there really are some good people here and I've been sort of ignoring them, harping on the bad.


All forums have good and bad and, dammit--I was a loved poster where I came from--no reason I can't be here either. :yup:

[dteam6]

Good to see, deat. I was really looking forward to us talking up a storm when BCS starts up. I posted some stuff for you in there yesterday.
Yep, gotta have our BCS talks of course! :yes:

[Dani8]

Yep, gotta have our BCS talks of course! :yes:

I cant wait much longer, deat. Rewatched last season's finale last night.

[christine]

That's a nice post dteam, takes a big person to say stuff like that so good for you! :)

[Chypmunk]

Nice post, hopefully your time here will begin to be more pleasant now and I look forward to the day when you can say you've been here 11 years or more.

[Dani8]

I look forward to the day when you can say you've been here 11 years or more.

Hey scary thought. Where does the time go. We'll look back on this thread in 11 years and say 'that was 11 years???'

[Gangland]

Glad to see things are getting ironed out; was expecting a full on Gangs of New York showdown to happen on that thread.

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[Chypmunk]

Hey scary thought. Where does the time go. We'll look back on this thread in 11 years and say 'that was 11 years???'
You might ..... I'll probably be desperately trying to remember what the heck my password is in 11 years :D

[dteam6]

I cant wait much longer, deat. Rewatched last season's finale last night.
Wife and I rewatched season 1 over the weekend and will watch Season 2 again once it comes to Netflix, which should be this week, I believe. I also caught up on some Season 4 episodes of Breaking Bad to get in the mood for Gus. "Is everything to your satisfaction?" :D

[Citizen Rules]

A lot of things, really. Mainly some heart-to-hearts with a couple friends that I really appreciate. That and some soul-searching.


I'm not saying that I attribute EVERYTHING to me being guarded (some of those issues WERE problems) but I can acknowledge that some of those problems were probably brought on by misunderstandings from both sides as well as me not "getting" the humor around here. That and there really are some good people here and I've been sort of ignoring them, harping on the bad.

That's why MoFo is the best movie community on the internet:)


All forums have good and bad and, dammit--I was a loved poster where I came from--no reason I can't be here either. :yup: OK that's cool, thanks.

If it helps you, try thinking of MoFo like a small town where everybody knows everybody, we might not all love each other and sometimes we fuss at each other, but we never forget that we are arguing with a fellow MoFo...and not some nameless faceless stranger that doesn't matter, (which is how IMDB boards were.)

That's why MoFo is the best movie community on the internet:)

[Dani8]

You might ..... I'll probably be desperately trying to remember what the heck my password is in 11 years :D

I cant remember my password now and I've only been here a month.

[Dani8]

Wife and I rewatched season 1 over the weekend and will watch Season 2 again once it comes to Netflix, which should be this week, I believe. I also caught up on some Season 4 episodes of Breaking Bad to get in the mood for Gus. "Is everything to your satisfaction?" :D

Check out those ads I posted in the thread. Hilariously bad. Let me know what Mrs deat thinks.

[The Rodent]

OK that's cool, thanks.

If it helps you, try thinking of MoFo like a small town where everybody knows everybody, we might not all love each other and sometimes we fuss at each other, but we never forget that we are arguing with a fellow MoFo...and not some nameless faceless stranger that doesn't matter, (which is how IMDB boards were.)

That's why MoFo is the best movie community on the internet:)



I'm now wondering which one of us CR considers the Village Idiot :laugh:

[Citizen Rules]

Ha:p

[Miss Vicky]

Have you emptied your ignore list?

[Little Devil]

http://anotherwhiskyformisterbukowski.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/golden-globes-2016-applause.gif

[Sexy Celebrity]

http://anotherwhiskyformisterbukowski.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/golden-globes-2016-applause.gif

An applause for somebody acting. Hmmm.

[Little Devil]

Have you emptied your ignore list?
"Another problem is that many of you have been quite respectful and nice to me and I feel that I never gave those of you who were your due credit--I just dwelled on the negative and never let my guard down." - Dteam

[Little Devil]

An applause for somebody acting. Hmmm.
You may not know Dteam, but I do.

And if he wrote an apologetic text it's because he felt it was his duty for a greater good, and I - as his friend - am proud that he did so.

Your personal thoughts about him and his decisions are yours to have and all I can do is to respect them. Doesn't mean you are correct when stating that he is acting [when he is not] at all. But that's something that only you can figure out if willing [or not].

[Sexy Celebrity]

If Dteam6 wants me to warm up to him, he can start by DIRECTLY apologizing to ME, in this thread, for the things he said about me the other day in that locked thread, for the fight we had, for making me take off my Madea earrings.

[ash_is_the_gal]

^nobody made you do anything

[Sexy Celebrity]

^nobody made you do anything

Stay out of this, please. I know how attention seeking you are. Nobody said you ate paint chips as a child.

[The Rodent]

If Dteam6 wants me to warm up to him, he can start by DIRECTLY apologizing to ME, in this thread, for the things he said about me the other day in that locked thread, for the fight we had, for making me take off my Madea earrings.



So...


Dteam posts an apology to the boards... and SC tries to turn it into something that should be about himself and himself alone.


I'm not calling you SC from now on, SC... I'm calling you MeMe.

[ash_is_the_gal]

Stay out of this, please. I know how attention seeking you are. Nobody said you ate paint chips as a child.

i love you, sexy celebrity. i think you're a wonderful mofo! the best mofo!!!

[Swan]

I want a MeMe meme NOW.

[ash_is_the_gal]

So...


Dteam posts an apology to the boards... and SC tries to turn it into something that should be about himself and himself alone.


I'm not calling you SC from now on, SC... I'm calling you MeMe.yet somehow i'm the attention seeker

[Sexy Celebrity]

Rodent, you are SUCH a hypocrite. If YOU were the one that had been slighted, you wouldn't be so accepting of his apology, either. I know you!

[mark f]

Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay
My, oh my, what a wonderful day.

[The Rodent]

Actually I would... and I am.


Dteam and I has an altercation a while back over a misunderstanding and the fact I was drunk.
I've not asked him for a direct apology.
What has happened in the past, is in the past.


The Dude has said sorry to the whole board for things that have happened, and from what I can tell, everyone, including me, has basically said "Meh, apology accepted, sh*t happens, let us all move on".


Except you.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Actually I would... and I am.

Dteam and I has an altercation a while back over a misunderstanding and the fact I was drunk.
I've not asked him for a direct apology.
What has happened in the past, is in the past.

The Dude has said sorry to the whole board for things that have happened, and from what I can tell, everyone, including me, has basically said "Meh, apology accepted, sh*t happens, let us all move on".

Except you.

That's right.

[ash_is_the_gal]

honestly, if you want a direct apology, you probably aren't going to get it coming into his apology thread with sarcasm and scorn and then DEMANDING it. but good luck on that.

[Sexy Celebrity]

honestly, if you want a direct apology, you probably aren't going to get it coming into his apology thread with sarcasm and scorn and then DEMANDING it. but good luck on that.
You should apologize to me, too.

[Miss Vicky]

Have you emptied your ignore list?
"Another problem is that many of you have been quite respectful and nice to me and I feel that I never gave those of you who were your due credit--I just dwelled on the negative and never let my guard down." - Dteam
I'm not going to attempt to read between the lines. Doing that can lead to misunderstandings and we've had enough of those already. I would like a direct answer, from dteam, to my direct question.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I know The President of Movie Forums would probably support my DESIRE for a direct Dteam6 apology.

[RaymondLuxuryYacht]

Not sure what everybody is apologizing for, but I'm pretty sure I was slighted. I demand not only a fully personal and appropriately groveling apology from all of those at fault, but also generous financial restitution. Anything less would teeter on the edge of propriety.

[Miss Vicky]

Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay
My, oh my, what a wonderful day.
I totally saved the recording of you actually singing that. :)

[The Rodent]

Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay
My, oh my, what a wonderful day.



Oo-ee-oo ah-ah
Ting tang, walla-walla bingbang.

[Yoda]

Thanks for saying that, dteam. It's big of you.

It's okay if not everyone accepts it right away. Some people will wait and see what happens, and I can respect that, too, actions meaning more than words and all that. But it's a nice gesture either way and I like to take these things in the spirit in which they were offered, so thank you. :up:

[Sexy Celebrity]

Oo-ee-oo ah-ah
Ting tang, walla-walla bingbang.

I think I hear a mating call.

[Little Devil]

I'm not going to attempt to read between the lines. Doing that can lead to misunderstandings and we've had enough of those already. I would like a direct answer, from dteam, to my direct question.
There is no "in between the lines" from me; neither do I have patience for that kind of childish thing.. I'm stating that if Dteam has put someone in Ignore, it's no one's business but himself.

So, why do you ask?

[dteam6]

You may not know Dteam, but I do.

And if he wrote an apologetic text it's because he felt it was his duty for a greater good, and I - as his friend - am proud that he did so.

Your personal thoughts about him and his decisions are yours to have and all I can do is to respect them. Doesn't mean you are correct when stating that he is acting [when he is not] at all. But that's something that only you can figure out if willing [or not].

Thanks, buddy! :highfive:

[Little Devil]

If Dteam6 wants me to warm up to him, he can start by DIRECTLY apologizing to ME, in this thread, for the things he said about me the other day in that locked thread, for the fight we had, for making me take off my Madea earrings.

I believe if he so desires to, he will take it to PMs and have a decent convo with you. You demanding anything will get you nothing

[dteam6]

If Dteam6 wants me to warm up to him, he can start by DIRECTLY apologizing to ME, in this thread, for the things he said about me the other day in that locked thread, for the fight we had, for making me take off my Madea earrings.

SexyCelebrity, my response to you is this: I meant to put you on ignore last week but forgot to do so. In the interest of maintaining the peace, I am going to place you on ignore now becuase...honestly...I feel that you're trying to cause trouble and I don't want or need it.

So, for EVERYONE's sake, I'm placing you on ignore and keeping the peace.

[Dani8]

Thanks, buddy! :highfive:

Is Dev a BCS fan? I dont recall seeing him on that board. I'm pushing Cat to get up to speed. Give her a shove, deat.

[dteam6]

OK that's cool, thanks.

If it helps you, try thinking of MoFo like a small town where everybody knows everybody, we might not all love each other and sometimes we fuss at each other, but we never forget that we are arguing with a fellow MoFo...and not some nameless faceless stranger that doesn't matter, (which is how IMDB boards were.)

That's why MoFo is the best movie community on the internet:)

Thanks.

[dteam6]

So...


Dteam posts an apology to the boards... and SC tries to turn it into something that should be about himself and himself alone.


I'm not calling you SC from now on, SC... I'm calling you MeMe.

Well, I've remedied that just and I couldn't be happier for doing so. Now I can move on in peace. :)

[Little Devil]

Is Dev a BCS fan? I dont recall seeing him on that board. I'm pushing Cat to get up to speed. Give her a shove, deat.
What is CBS?

[Austruck]

I love the first page of this thread. :D

Welcome once again, dteam!!

[dteam6]

Actually I would... and I am.


Dteam and I has an altercation a while back over a misunderstanding and the fact I was drunk.
I've not asked him for a direct apology.
What has happened in the past, is in the past.


The Dude has said sorry to the whole board for things that have happened, and from what I can tell, everyone, including me, has basically said "Meh, apology accepted, sh*t happens, let us all move on".


Except you.

Thanks. Yes, it's time for us to move forward.

[dteam6]

Not sure what everybody is apologizing for, but I'm pretty sure I was slighted. I demand not only a fully personal and appropriately groveling apology from all of those at fault, but also generous financial restitution. Anything less would teeter on the edge of propriety.

Can we split it?

[Zotis]

I forgive you dteam, though I don't know who you are or what you did....

[Dani8]

What is CBS?

Too much caffeine for you, young man. BCS - Better Call Saul. That thread is going to explode in two weeks time. Great show.

[dteam6]

Is Dev a BCS fan? I dont recall seeing him on that board. I'm pushing Cat to get up to speed. Give her a shove, deat.

Not sure. What say you, Little Devil? You a Saul fan? :) BETTER CALL SAUL!

Yeah, Cat's input would be great, for sure. :D

[dteam6]

I love the first page of this thread. :D

Welcome once again, dteam!!

Thank you, sir/ma'am. :)

[dteam6]

I forgive you dteam, though I don't know who you are or what you did....

Well, you're very kind...after all...is THIS a face you could resist forgiving? :cage:

[dteam6]

Thanks for saying that, dteam. It's big of you.

It's okay if not everyone accepts it right away. Some people will wait and see what happens, and I can respect that, too, actions meaning more than words and all that. But it's a nice gesture either way and I like to take these things in the spirit in which they were offered, so thank you. :up:

Thanks.

Yes, I expect nothing but what people want to give. Entirely their choice. I will do my part and keep the peace and do my best to let the ol' guard down more. As far as I'm concerned, things can only get better from here for everyone. :yup:

[Miss Vicky]

I'm not going to attempt to read between the lines. Doing that can lead to misunderstandings and we've had enough of those already. I would like a direct answer, from dteam, to my direct question.
There is no "in between the lines" from me; neither do I have patience for that kind of childish thing.. I'm stating that if Dteam has put someone in Ignore, it's no one's business but himself.

So, why do you ask?
Again, my question was for dteam, not you. Please stop interjecting.


Dteam, if you are unwilling to clear your ignore list, truly let bygones be bygones, and give the forum the fair chance it deserves, then I believe your apology is meaningless.

[dteam6]

Thanks, TheRodent. I'm happy you can see where I'm coming from on this and for your defense. I won't forget it. :highfive:

[Dani8]

oh i'm sorry! i've watched all of Breaking Bad, but i haven't watched Better Call Saul - yet! i might get caught up before the new season starts. my husband is a fan. i tried to watch it when it first came out and i wasn't in love with the first couple episodes, then it fell on the wayside - but now that it's on Netflix, i've been meaning to try again.

Wooo welcome aboard. See you in the thread. The last post I made there is Saul's ads which arent in the show (just promotion) so not spoilery. Hilarious.

[Little Devil]

Again, my question was for dteam, not you. Please stop interjecting.


Dteam, if you are unwilling to clear your ignore list, truly let bygones be bygones, and give the forum the fair chance it deserves, then I believe your apology is meaningless.

You know perfectly well He put you on ignore right at the first few days of being here.

All you are trying to do his rile others against him, for some reason I can only deduce has something to do with your nonacceptance.

Time for you to let it go on and move on.

[dteam6]

You know perfectly well He put you on ignore right at the first few days of being here.

All you are trying to do his rile others against him, for some reason I can only deduce has something to do with your nonacceptance.

Time for you to let it go on and move on.

Thanks, LD. That's all I want is to move on and in a way that will be peaceful for me because...if it's peaceful for ME then so it can be for everyone else. :yup:

[Miss Vicky]

Again, my question was for dteam, not you. Please stop interjecting.


Dteam, if you are unwilling to clear your ignore list, truly let bygones be bygones, and give the forum the fair chance it deserves, then I believe your apology is meaningless.

You know perfectly well He put you on ignore right at the first few days of being here.

All you are trying to do his rile others against him, for some reason I can only deduce has something to do with your nonacceptance.

Time for you to let it go on and move on.

Yes I know he put me on ignore, which is why I asked HIM if he cleared it or not. Do me a favor and have enough respect not to make assumptions about my intentions. You clearly don't know me at all.

[Citizen Rules]

Dteam and friends, if you truly want to make MoFo your home, please know that, endless off topic chatter, is frowned upon. That comes from Yoda's post in the past and not me BTW. There's the Shoutbox, The Chill Club and other 'light' threads for general socializing.

[Yoda]

Fair point, I'll move all those Saul posts to the BCS thread.

[Little Devil]

Yes I know he put me on ignore, which is why I asked HIM if he cleared it or not. Do me a favor and have enough respect not to make assumptions about my intentions. You clearly don't know me at all.
If you know he put you on ignore, then you know he doesn't see your question, which makes your question even more dubious and spiteful, quite akin to a tantrum.

Worry not, I have no desire of being disrespectful towards you, but you are being disrespectful yourself to another member, worse yet, on his own apologetic thread.

You should really grow up a bit and accept that not everyone is obliged to like you [or your amusing show at hypocrisy, as stated], and it seems that indeed you were put on Ignore for a reason.

Furthermore the man is asking for peace, and you - a long time regular - are not providing it. See the problem?

[ash_is_the_gal]

Fair point, I'll move all those Saul posts to the BCS thread.

but then it'll just look like i went into the BCS thread just to say "hey i don't watch this show", lol

[Dani8]

but then it'll just look like i went into the BCS thread just to say "hey i don't watch this show", lol

LOL.

[mlaturno]

This is definitely the most wholesome/innocent board I've ever posted on. Kinda nice.

[Yoda]

:laugh: I'll edit in a notice/explanation.

[Miss Vicky]

Yes I know he put me on ignore, which is why I asked HIM if he cleared it or not. Do me a favor and have enough respect not to make assumptions about my intentions. You clearly don't know me at all.
If you know he put you on ignore, then you know he doesn't see your question, which makes your question even more dubious and spiteful, quite akin to a tantrum.

Worry not, I have no desire of being disrespectful towards you, but you are being disrespectful yourself to another member, worse yet, on his own apologetic thread.

You should really grow up a bit and accept that not everyone is obliged to like you [or your amusing show at hypocrisy, as stated], and it seems that indeed you were put on Ignore for a reason.

Furthermore the man is asking for peace, and you - a long time regular - are not providing it. See the problem?
Since when is it disrespectful to ask a question?

[ash_is_the_gal]

i think Miss Vicky asked him because she knew if he had cleared his ignore list, she'd have gotten a direct response from him. and that his lack of kind of answered it for her.

[dteam6]

Thank you for the kind responses, guys. You've encouraged me and I feel good, knowing we can move forward.

For those I left on ignore--this isn't just for you--it's for me. If it helps me as a poster then I see it as only a good thing because, if it helps me keep the peace then it can only be good for everyone. :yup:

So, let us move forward from here and thanks again for your understanding.


PS: I must warn you all--I like the Cage avatar...a lot. I'll probably end up with a reputation for using it so much. :cage:

[Omnizoa]

Assuming you've unblocked me so you can read this, then that's big of you. No hard feelings from me.
In the interest of maintaining the peace, I am going to place you on ignore nowif he had cleared his ignore list, she'd have gotten a direct response from him. and that his lack of kind of answered it for her.
I sense false humility.

[Yoda]

I've moved the SC posts to this thread (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?p=1676772#post1676772). Carry on. :)

[Little Devil]

Since when is it disrespectful to ask a question?
Since the question is loaded with dubious intentions [which clearly is].

[coffeegod]

Dammit....I miss all the drama....

[Little Devil]

i think Miss Vicky asked him because she knew if he had cleared his ignore list, she'd have gotten a direct response from him. and that his lack of kind of answered it for her.
If Miss Vicky had any wish of knowing it she could as easily sent him a PM and resolve her issues with the man personally [and thus discover for herself if indeed she is still in his Ignore List or not].

The intent however is not that, but a clear faux dilemma:

"if you still have me in your ignore list, than you are not apologizing" [as though the man is entitled to explain it or remove her if he has no wish to do so]

which, in itself [and given the context in which the question is formulated - ie an apology thread do those he himself feels inclined to apology to, as said so in the OP] is anything but peaceful but an indication of a personal vendetta [as useless and mind-boggling as it may be].

[Dani8]

Dammit....I miss all the drama....

It was pretty tame, coffeeg. You would have witnessed much more high drama at the other place. This was just a bit of dust, not a cyclone. deat has obviously now moved on with stuff, like movies and shows.

[coffeegod]

It was pretty tame, coffeeg. You would have witnessed much more high drama at the other place. This was just a bit of dust, not a cyclone. deat has obviously now moved on with stuff, like movies and shows.

;)

[Sedai]

Glad to see things headed in the right direction in here. I watched the situation from afar, hoping things would work themselves out, and for the most part, it appears they have. Glad to see you are sticking around, as I think you with make a fine addition to the MoFo community. :)

[Miss Vicky]

If Miss Vicky had any wish of knowing it she could as easily sent him a PM and resolve her issues with the man personally [and thus discover for herself if indeed she is still in his Ignore List or not].

I'm pretty sure I'm not able to send PMs to people who have me on ignore, so that wouldn't be particularly effective, now would it?

[Sedai]

Everyone shake hands, hug it all out, and then LISTEN TO METAL.

\M/ ^^^^^ \M/
O O

[dteam6]

Glad to see things headed in the right direction in here. I watched the situation from afar, hoping things would work themselves out, and for the most part, it appears they have. Glad to see you are sticking around, as I think you with make a fine addition to the MoFo community. :)

Thanks!

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/74/741b62d2abff4001e9399b6d33a97225613ff29bd0865deebe4cdd3b20cef864.jpg

[Little Devil]

I'm pretty sure I'm not able to send PMs to people who have me on ignore, so that wouldn't be particularly effective, now would it?
You seem to know so much, and yet fail at the very basics of common sense [and general social skills].

Instead of going for the faux innocent low jab at another member [the same one who put you in his Ignore List], wouldn't it be more cordial on your behalf to find if you are indeed still on his Ignore List or not by ACTUALLY send him a PM?

And if you DO KNOW you CAN'T send him a PM, you ALREADY KNOW you still on his "I won't even bother with you" List; as you yourself just stated.

Furthermore you also stated this:

"Dteam, if you are unwilling to clear your ignore list, truly let bygones be bygones, and give the forum the fair chance it deserves, then I believe your apology is meaningless."

Which makes of you a full blown Hypocrite [because you ALREADY KNOW you can't send him a PM he himself doesn't seem interested in receiving]; which - in turn - makes your whole half-baked attempt at group instigation against another member [the same member you are being an ass towards with your hypocritical failed logic] a laughable childish matter.

Again, The man doesn't owe you anything and just because he doesn't seem to be willing to take you out of his Ignore List, it doesn't make him dishonest.

If he decided [for his own interest and the interest of a peaceful stay, as he has stated] and it is the best course of action to put you on Ignore, than all you are obliged to do is to respect his decision [like a grown up] instead of attempting a fight at him [worse yet, when the entire OP is not dedicated to you or anyone he may have decided to Ignore, but to those who actually showed themselves worth of hanging in the Forum with].

And you are right, I do not know you. I do however, recognize BS when I see it [as proven]

[rauldc14]

Can somebody give me a recap of what happened here today?

[Yoda]

dteam apologized, SC was skeptical and repeatedly demanded a personal apology, one of SC's posts was deleted for continuing to force the issue, SC said he was leaving.

[rauldc14]

I'm so far behind I still don't know what he apologized for

[Yoda]

He explains it pretty well in the initial post. The specifics are mostly beside the point, but check his threads created for a general idea.

[Little Devil]

Can somebody give me a recap of what happened here today?

Apology -> hypocritical attempts at attacks -> childish Demands -> Meltdown


in a nutshell.

[Miss Vicky]

I'm not trying to instigate anything. I asked a question and expressed an opinion, which is my right to do here.

I have never had a problem with you until now, Little Devil. I don't know why you're so insistent on trying to start a fight with me. You don't know my intentions at all and your insistence otherwise is getting very tiring.

[cricket]

Little Devil; it's nice you want to stick up for your friend, but it's not helping anyone or anything. He's a big boy and can respond or choose not to.

[Cobpyth]

People should stop being so touchy on a freaking internet forum.

[Little Devil]

I'm not trying to instigate anything. I asked a question and expressed an opinion, which is my right to do here.

I have never had a problem with you until now, @Little Devil (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=95629). I don't know why you're so insistent on trying to start a fight with me. You don't know my intentions at all and your insistence otherwise is getting very tiring.

You are always welcome to express opinions Miss Vicky. And I'll be the first to defend your rights to do so.

My replies to you have nothing to do with your personal opinions.Those I respect [even if I don't forcibly agree with them, my respect for your opinions is an obligation that I can only hope are mutual].

What I am not inclined to agree with [neither take kindly] is a clear show of instigation to someone I do know [the third diverse one on an apologetic thread]; which is exactly what you are doing [as previously explained and demonstrated]. So I'm calling a Spade a Spade.


However, and If you so desire, I can ask [as a temporary middle man] if Dteam is willing to remove you from his Ignore List so you can take your personal issue with to whom it concerns and where it belongs; in the private space [ie, if he doesn't read this till then].

Give the man the peace he wishes and carry on.

[Sarge]

Big of you to apologise Dteam.

I am sorry it has been so tough for you and am glad you're choosing to stick around.

However...

Can we please stop all of this talking of IMDB like it was a war zone:D

It was an internet forum.

Sounds like it was full of nobs but it was an internet forum all the same.

From what I gather it was a load of teenage warriors giving it large but people talk of it like it was Dunkirk. :confused:

[Little Devil]

Little Devil; it's nice you want to stick up for your friend, but it's not helping anyone or anything. He's a big boy and can respond or choose not to.
I'm not sticking to an online friend, I'm showing obvious hostile instigation on a thread that looks for peace. And it isn't White Knighting either, merely stating the obvious.

[Cobpyth]

What I am not inclined to agree with [neither take kindly] is a clear show of instigation to someone I do know [the third diverse one on an apologetic thread]; which is exactly what you are doing [as previously explained and demonstrated]. So I'm calling a Spade a Spade.

She's not the instigation-type. Believe me, I've been on this forum with her for quite a while. She's just very direct when she observes hypocrisy.

I think it was pretty clear that her direct question to the OP simply meant that he should also be willing to bury all the unjustified grudges he's holding against some respected members here if he truly wants to fit in and make his apology sound.
I think she made that point in a very fair way.

Try to understand certain people first, before you start accusing and judging them. Don't always assume the worst.

Don't search for the conflict, but search for mutual understanding. :)

[Sexy Celebrity]

You are always welcome to express opinions Miss Vicky

Don't talk down to her. Don't tell her "she's welcome."

She was voted the President of Movie Forums. She has been a vital member here for YEARS.

If she has an opinion she wishes to express, she'll say it, and she doesn't need your approval.

[cricket]

I'm not sticking to an online friend, I'm showing obvious hostile instigation on a thread that looks for peace. And it isn't White Knighting either, merely stating the obvious.

My guess is that most here would disagree with you.

[Sarge]

Dteam causing chaos one post at a time :D

[Miss Vicky]

Little Devil

The reality is that there is only one person in the world who truly knows my intentions and that's me. I may have a reputation for being a bitch, but I'm pretty sure I don't have one for being a liar. Either way, you can choose to believe me or not, but this conversation is over.

[Little Devil]

She's not the instigation-type. Believe me, I've been on this forum with her for quite a while. She's just very direct when she observes hypocrisy.

I think it was pretty clear that her direct question to the OP simply meant that he should also be willing to bury all the unjustified grudges he's holding against some respected members here if he truly wants to fit in and make his apology sound.
I think she made that point in a very fair way.

Try to understand certain people first, before you start accusing and judging them. Don't always assume the worst.

Don't search for the conflict, but search for mutual understanding. :)

That's all fine and dandy IF the OP would actually see the question [which she knows he can not].

So, it's hypocritical in nature.

And stating that if someone is unwilling to remove others from their Ignore List that is dishonesty [again, as she stated - and raises a false dilemma]; is not only disrespectful to others decision but also a vindictive way of saying "do what I think you should do, not what you think it's good according to your own principles":

Again, I do not subscribe to that notion [the Ignore List matter] neither care to follow any idea that puts personal demands in front of common sense.

[Little Devil]

My guess is that most here would disagree with you.
I'm quite fine with that.

[Sexy Celebrity]

People here think I DEMANDED a personal apology to me from Dteam6, which is not true. I merely wanted to see if he'd give it. He refuses. He wants to keep me on ignore.

Okay. Keep me on ignore. I won't accept your general apology to the forum, then. You said I eat paint chips and other things. A general apology to the entire forum is not enough for me. If that makes me a bitch, fine.

- Madonna

[Little Devil]

Don't talk down to her. Don't tell her "she's welcome."

She was voted the President of Movie Forums. She has been a vital member here for YEARS.

If she has an opinion she wishes to express, she'll say it, and she doesn't need your approval.
I'm not one to talk down to others. But you bet I'm one to call BS when I see it.

I hope your previous Meltdown has cooled off too.

[Sarge]

https://img.memesuper.com/44a399b0833a673263e357dc3689faec_toy-story-meme-drama-meme-drama_556-295.jpeg

[Little Devil]

@Little Devil (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=95629)

The reality is that there is only one person in the world who truly knows my intentions and that's me. I may have a reputation for being a bitch, but I'm pretty sure I don't have one for being a liar. Either way, you can choose to believe me or not, but this conversation is over.
I didn't call you a liar, I said your question was hypocritical.

[cricket]

Have you emptied your ignore list?

This was her original simple question, and it was a post that she could have no way of knowing if dteam could see. Once you quoted it and picked it apart, Little Devil, that's when things escalated. It was unnecessary.

[Cobpyth]

That's all fine and dandy IF the OP would actually see the question [which she knows he can not].

So, it's hypocritical in nature.

No, it's logical in nature.

She was testing if he was truly backing up his apology. If he had answered, I'm sure she would've been accepting.

And stating that if someone is unwilling to remove others from their Ignore List that is dishonesty [again, as she stated - and raises a false dilemma]; is not only disrespectful to others decision but also a vindictive way of saying "do what I think you should do, not what you think it's good according to your own principles"

If someone is apologizing to people, it's logical to also back up his words with certain actions that prove his willingness. That's all she was asking for.

There's no need to call this simple request hypocritical or disrespectful. It was done in a very straightforward and respectful manner.

If the OP doesn't want to respond, that's his good right, and that would be the end of that, but then he should realize that his apologies will sound very hollow to some people.

[Little Devil]

This was her original simple question, and it was a post that she could have no way of knowing if dteam could see. Once you quoted it and picked it apart, Little Devil, that's when things escalated. It was unnecessary.
Again that's your personal view. Surely not mine. And surely that question is not an opinion, but a question.

The opinion follows later to further create the faux dillemma [with the quirk: "If you don't... than I don't"]

No matter how you try to justify it, it's not justifiable.

[dteam6]

I was hoping this matter of the ignore feature would have died down by now.

At this point I have given my reasons for choosing to keep my ignore list the way it is and I have nothing further to add on that matter.

Now, let us move on...

[Cobpyth]

Again that's your personal view. Surely not mine. And surely that question is not an opinion, but a question.

The opinion follows later to further create the faux dillemma [with the quirk: "If you don't... than I don't"]

No matter how you try to justify it, it's not justifiable.

What's faux or not justifiable about: "If you don't take me from your ignore list, then I don't accept your apology"?

Seems perfectly sound and logical to me.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I was hoping this matter of the ignore feature would have died down by now.

At this point I have given my reasons for choosing to keep my ignore list the way it is and I have nothing further to add on that matter.

Now, let us move on...

Well, it is a shame that you have issues with me. I really would have been open to being cool with whoever you are. But..... *shrugs* Okay. You think I'm a problem person. Okay.

[cricket]

I enjoy your participation outside of these threads, Little Devil, but as far as this particular thread, I read it again and I don't see what you're seeing at all.

[dteam6]

No, it's logical in nature.

She was testing if he was truly backing up his apology. If he had answered, I'm sure she would've been accepting.



If someone is apologizing to people, it's logical to also back up his words with certain actions that prove his willingness. That's all she was asking for.

There's no need to call this simple request hypocritical or disrespectful. It was done in a very straightforward and respectful manner.

If the OP doesn't want to respond, that's his good right, and that would be the end of that, but then he should realize that his apologies will sound very hollow to some people.

Well, as I stated earlier, people can think whatever they'd like to think of me at this point and people are free to not accept my apology. My reasons for the ignore list are my own and people may take from that what they will.

At the end of the day, my own best interests come first (as should be the case of ALL of us) and my best interest is to maintain my ignore list and carry on. I don't expect everyone to like or even fully understand my reasoning in this area. All that I can tell any of you is that I did it for me, first and foremost.

Anyway, carry on. :)

[Little Devil]

[QUOTE]No, it's logical in nature.

She was testing if he was truly backing up his apology. If he had answered, I'm sure she would've been accepting.that has the same logic as asking a blind man the color of the person's shirt he/she is wearing.

And yet, you are further demonstrating the faux dilemma. He DOESN'T need her apology, because IT ISN'T DIRECTED AT HER or anyone he may have on his Ignore List.

If someone is apologizing to people, it's logical to also back up his words with certain actions that prove his willingness. That's all she was asking for.
again, it's not directed at her. If he decided it was in his best interest to put the person in Ignore List, that's his decision. People only have to respect it and move on, instead of whining about it and demand course of actions that are not in the view of his personal interest.

There's no need to call this simple request hypocritical or disrespectful. It was done in a very straightforward and respectful manner. even the request itself is dumbfounding. Why does he need to justify his apology? His apology is given. It's either for the people to accept it or not.

If the OP doesn't want to respond, that's his good right, and that would be the end of that, but then he should realize that his apologies will sound very hollow to some people. I see your point of you, but again, can't agree with it.

[Little Devil]

I enjoy your participation outside of these threads, Little Devil, but as far as this particular thread, I read it again and I don't see what you're seeing at all.
It's natural. I don't take offense that you don't.

[Cobpyth]

that has the same logic as asking a blind man the color of the person's shirt he/she is wearing.

More like: it has the same logic as asking a potentially seeing man if he notices the hand that's being reached out to him.

Anyway, the OP is free to ignore who he wants. I just hope he changes his mind about certain people here, because he'll be missing out on a lot of great experiences and interesting posts if he doesn't.

That's all.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Are we sure these ignore list obsessed people just aren't TONGO alt accounts???

[cricket]

The faux dilemma you speak of may not have ever presented itself if you did not interject yourself into something that had nothing to do with you. Her one question may have been her only post in the thread.

[ash_is_the_gal]

he made an apology to the whole forum. it doesn't seem odd to me that Miss Vicky would think that included her, since they had a tiff. it doesn't seem hypocritical that she'd ask, it seems... well, logical.

[Little Devil]

What's faux or not justifiable about: "If you don't take me from your ignore list, then I don't accept your apology"?

Seems perfectly sound and logical to me.
1 - the OP is not directed at the people he has on his Ignore List [as he himself has already stated]
2 - His decision is to be respected. If people can't respect other peoples personal decisions [which were conveniently explained in the OP] then they have a problem the OP is not interested in [as he himself stated]
3 - the faux dillema resides in the false premise that a person is dishonest [in this case that his apology is not truthful] because of his decision to keep what he perceives as hostile members in his Ignore List. Not only it is no prove of disohnesty it is also a proof that the man has his principles and abides by them independently of what others may feel about [which makes him an honest person]

I hope this clarifies it.

[Citizen Rules]

We need that IMDB - MoFo Survivor Game right about now. Take out your frustrations while having fun playing Survivor:p

[Sexy Celebrity]

We need that IMDB - MoFo Survivor Game right about now. Take out your frustrations while having fun playing Survivor:p
I think this thread is IT!

[Swan]

he made an apology to the whole forum. it doesn't seem odd to me that Miss Vicky would think that included her, since they had a tiff. it doesn't seem hypocritical that she'd ask, it seems... well, logical.

Turns out Miss Vicky is actually Spock.

[Joel]

What is Survivor here, like, you get an intake test and then voted out of the community? How's that work?

[Little Devil]

More like: it has the same logic as asking a potentially seeing man if he notices the hand that's being reached out to him.

Anyway, the OP is free to ignore who he wants. I just hope he changes his mind about certain people here, because he'll be missing out on a lot of great experiences and interesting posts if he doesn't.

That's all.I understand your positivist attitude and I appreciate it. It's interesting in itself and shows compassion.

I'm simply stating that in practical terms it doesn't seem to be the case.

[Sexy Celebrity]

What is Survivor here, like, you get an intake test and then voted out of the community? How's that work?

It's like the TV show/game show. But on a forum. In a thread.

And if you ever end up playing it.... don't trust TheUsualSuspect

[Swan]

What is Survivor here, like, you get an intake test and then voted out of the community? How's that work?

Less like being banned and more like middle schoolers kicking someone out of their Kewl Kids Klub for being weird. Although, I may just be projecting my own history onto MoFo Survivor. :p

[cricket]

1 - the OP is not directed at the people he has on his Ignore List [as he himself has already stated]

The ignore list is not mentioned in the original post.

2 - His decision is to be respected. If people can't respect other peoples personal decisions [which were conveniently explained in the OP] then they have a problem the OP is not interested in [as he himself stated]

The decision made in the original post was to apologize.


3 - the faux dillema resides in the false premise that a person is dishonest [in this case that his apology is not truthful] because of his decision to keep what he perceives as hostile members in his Ignore List. Not only it is no prove of disohnesty it is also a proof that the man has his principles and abides by them independently of what others may feel about [which makes him an honest person]

I hope this clarifies it.

It's not about proof.


What you're missing here is that this never had anything to do with you.

[Cobpyth]

If you still want the debate to remain open, I'll gladly participate, of course.

1 - the OP is not directed at the people he has on his Ignore List [as he himself has already stated]

Reread the OP. That is never explicitly said. In fact, when reading the OP, one gets the sense that he is trying to apology to the whole board (as his title suggests as well).

2 - His decision is to be respected. If people can't respect other peoples personal decisions [which were conveniently explained in the OP] then they have a problem the OP is not interested in [as he himself stated]

His decision of keeping some people in his ignore list was not given, therefore wasn't known and therefore wasn't "respected".

3 - the faux dillema resides in the false premise that a person is dishonest [in this case that his apology is not truthful] because of his decision to keep what he perceives as hostile members in his Ignore List. Not only it is no prove of disohnesty it is also a proof that the man has his principles and abides by them independently of what others may feel about [which makes him an honest person]

If she thought he was apologizing to the whole board (which is a fair reading of both the title and the OP), then the premise is not false and the dilemma that was given as a result not faux.

[Little Devil]

The faux dilemma you speak of may not have ever presented itself if you did not interject yourself into something that had nothing to do with you. Her one question may have been her only post in the thread.
Again,. I don't agree with your view but I respect it.

[cricket]

Again,. I don't agree with your view but I respect it.

Yea that's something we'll never know.

[Cobpyth]

I'm simply stating that in practical terms it doesn't seem to be the case.

And we are saying that, knowing the member who's involved much better than you do, your interpretation of the whole incident is incorrect, in practical terms. ;)

Don't turn a blind eye to your own inconsistencies on the whole matter. I don't regard this as a debate that has to be won or lost. It's about not looking for conflict where it doesn't have to be.

[Joel]

Less like being banned and more like middle schoolers kicking someone out of their Kewl Kids Klub for being weird. Although, I may just be projecting my own history onto MoFo Survivor. :p

Well, I'd better not play then. I'm weird AS.

EDIT: Thanks for the apology, Dteam. I don;t know wha hoppen but hey...fugin' A

[dteam6]

Guys...at this point, what's done is done. Let's move on.

PS: If anyone finds my ignore thing offensive/doesn't want to accept my apology on those grounds, that's perfectly fine. No ill will from my end. Those are friends to many of you and I accept that.

I should have made that point clear in my first post. I apologize.

For those willing to accept my position, I thank you and look forward to our future. For those unwilling, that's OK too. No forum is perfect and there's no such that as 100% harmony among all users. Such is life in the real world as well.

I guess what I'm saying is that is that it's OK by me if my apology is not accepted. I'm not going to be the most popular guy on campus with three friends of other people on ignore. I accept that. I'm a realist.

Your choice--either is perfectly fine by me. I respect your decisions. 👍

[Little Devil]

The ignore list is not mentioned in the original post.She knows she's in Ignore. She said so herself
The decision made in the original post was to apologize.that he did[/quote]
It's not about proof.Miss VIcky presented the case of false honesty if he didn't remove people from his Ignore List. Which is pretty much the same as stating "if you don't take people out of you IL that you are dishonest". Also it was stated in this thread that there is a "need for willingness". So, there seems to be a need for proof that has no reason for existing,
What you're missing here is that this never had anything to do with you.You are right, it doesn't,. Doesn't mean I enjoy watching him being put against the wall for his own personal decisions.

[Sexy Celebrity]

dteam6

If you truly want to apologize, you should take me off your ignore list and give me another chance. Just a thought, you know.

[Little Devil]

Yea that's something we'll never know.
such is life

[cricket]

But keep in mind-

He apologized to the forum and did not mention the ignore list.

She asked if he still had people on ignore. That's an innocent and reasonable question.

You interjected, quoted the question, and criticized it.

That changed what was to come and everything escalated from there.



There's no disputing any of that.

[ash_is_the_gal]

good lord, Little Devil. Miss Vicky DIDN'T know she was still on ignore when she posed the question. that's why she asked it. she figured it out later, yeah. and it's not dishonest to point out other people are being disingenuous. she has an opinion, you have an opinion, I have an opinion, dt has an opinion. all were straightforward. that's it. Miss Vicky has stated and restated what she meant, and you refuse to believe her.

[Little Devil]

If you still want the debate to remain open, I'll gladly participate, of course.


[QUOTE]
Reread the OP. That is never explicitly said. In fact, when reading the OP, one gets the sense that he is trying to apology to the whole board (as his title suggests as well). and here is what he said:

Another problem is that many of you have been quite respectful and nice to me and I feel that I never gave those of you who were your due credit--I just dwelled on the negative and never let my guard down.


Well, I'd like to change that, starting today.

I'd like to start by thanking those of you who treated me well and let you know that you're the main reason I stuck it out here. I owe it to those of you decent folks to try to make it work.
And as you can see is referring to the ones he were [in his words] respectful and nice.

His decision of keeping some people in his ignore list was not given, therefore wasn't known and therefore wasn't "respected".the people who are on his Ignore List know they are in such List. It is his decision and call alone,

If she thought he was apologizing to the whole board (which is a fair reading of both the title and the OP), then the premise is not false and the dilemma that was given as a result not faux. As demonstrated and explained in the first line of this thread.

[Little Devil]

@dteam6 (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=95647)

If you truly want to apologize, you should take me off your ignore list and give me another chance. Just a thought, you know.
I'll pass him the message

[Sexy Celebrity]

I'll pass him the message

Tell him I'll share my paint chips with him if he'll be my friend.

[Dani8]

Deat has moved on. He said his peace. Time to get back to fillums

[Sexy Celebrity]

Deat has moved on. He said his peace. Time to get back to fillums

Honey, I wasn't talkin' to you, dear.

[Little Devil]

But keep in mind-

He apologized to the forum and did not mention the ignore list.

She asked if he still had people on ignore. That's an innocent and reasonable question.

You interjected, quoted the question, and criticized it.

That changed what was to come and everything escalated from there.



There's no disputing any of that.
Why would he mention a function that exists on the forum and those who indeed are on his List know they are in there, when he is not addressing to them? such as follows [in his own words]:

Another problem is that many of you have been quite respectful and nice to me and I feel that I never gave those of you who were your due credit--I just dwelled on the negative and never let my guard down.


Well, I'd like to change that, starting today.

I'd like to start by thanking those of you who treated me well and let you know that you're the main reason I stuck it out here. I owe it to those of you decent folks to try to make it work.


So the question maintains: Why ask a question when she knows he can't even see it?


I know you feel about it, you made it clear. But, again, the words are there, his message is clear.

[Little Devil]

Deat has moved on. He said his peace. Time to get back to fillums
Agreed,

[Little Devil]

And we are saying that, knowing the member who's involved much better than you do, your interpretation of the whole incident is incorrect, in practical terms. ;)

Don't turn a blind eye to your own inconsistencies on the whole matter. I don't regard this as a debate that has to be won or lost. It's about not looking for conflict where it doesn't have to be.

In pratical terms what we have here is a loaded question. Simple as that. And you are right, there are indeed inconsistencies. The most obvious is the need to have justification when there is no intent of the interested party on doing so.

I'm not searching for conflict at all. I'm pointing the obvious. It may be displeasing to read it, but it's there as well.

[cricket]

You keep saying she knew she was on his ignore list but that would be literally impossible.

[Cobpyth]

his message is clear.

His message obviously wasn't clear and he has apologized for it.

I should have made that point clear in my first post. I apologize.

I think this discussion has become a bit redundant as the real intentions of the OP have now been established and repeatedly confirmed. Everyone basically has the answers they were looking for. We can move on.

[Little Devil]

good lord, Little Devil. Miss Vicky DIDN'T know she was still on ignore when she posed the question. that's why she asked it. she figured it out later, yeah. and it's not dishonest to point out other people are being disingenuous. she has an opinion, you have an opinion, I have an opinion, dt has an opinion. all were straightforward. that's it. Miss Vicky has stated and restated what she meant, and you refuse to believe her.
It's not a case of believing. It's stating that the question in itself was loaded.

It's fine, though. It won't change the fact for neither her nor Dteam,

[donniedarko]

God yall are a bunch of drama

Just talk about how over rated Crash is or some sh*t

[Little Devil]

[QUOTE]His message obviously wasn't clear and he has apologized for it.he seemed to also stated what I said: that his message wasn't directed to the ones on his Ignore List.



I think this discussion has become a bit redundant as the real intentions of the OP have now been established and repeatedly confirmed. Everyone basically has the answers they were looking for. We can move on.correct.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Well, I would like to know what REALLY got him to decide to make this super duper apology thread. I mean, why the change of heart? He seemed like such a little devil the other day. What turned him into an angel?

[Little Devil]

You keep saying she knew she was on his ignore list but that would be literally impossible.
oh really? she even stated that if she were to send him a PM he wouldn't receive it. Therefore she already knows.

Redundant isn't it?

[donniedarko]

OK that's cool, thanks.

If it helps you, try thinking of MoFo like a small town where everybody knows everybody, we might not all love each other and sometimes we fuss at each other, but we never forget that we are arguing with a fellow MoFo...and not some nameless faceless stranger that doesn't matter, (which is how IMDB boards were.)

That's why MoFo is the best movie community on the internet:)

Think of me as the village drunk

[cricket]

Well, I would like to know what REALLY got him to decide to make this super duper apology thread. I mean, why the change of heart? He seemed like such a little devil the other day. What turned him into an angel?

Yea, people who have a change of heart are hard to figure out;)

[dteam6]

Deat has moved on. He said his peace. Time to get back to fillums
Indeed. Time to move on, everyone.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Deat has moved on. He said his peace. Time to get back to fillums
Indeed. Time to move on, everyone.
What are we moving on to?

[Dani8]

Deat has moved on. He said his peace. Time to get back to fillums
Indeed. Time to move on, everyone.
Hey new Avatar. I might change mine

[cricket]

oh really? she even stated that if she were to send him a PM he wouldn't receive it. Therefore she already knows.

Redundant isn't it?

But she didn't send him a pm, and why would she if there's a thread on the subject? Her question was not insulting or instigating so there's no reason to pick it apart.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I'm not getting any benefits from this if he's just gonna keep me on ignore. Why can't I be loved, too?!?!!?

[Little Devil]

But she didn't send him a pm, and why would she if there's a thread on the subject? Her question was not insulting or instigating so there's no reason to pick it apart.and how you know that, pray tell.

[Cobpyth]

In pratical terms what we have here is a loaded question. Simple as that. And you are right, there are indeed inconsistencies. The most obvious is the need to have justification when there is no intent of the interested party on doing so.

I'm not searching for conflict at all. I'm pointing the obvious. It may be displeasing to read it, but it's there as well.

We're pointing out the following turths:

FACT 1: Miss Vicky did not know she was still on the OP's ignore list after he created this thread, as it gives the impression of also potentially being directed at her. The OP clearly mentions that there were conflicts due to misunderstandings and that he had needlessly put up his guard at times. The conflict she had with him could have categorized under any of those explanations. It was perfectly logical of Miss Vicky to think that the OP may have removed her from his ignore list. There was absolutely no way for her to know.

FACT 2: Miss Vicky asked a direct question to verify whether or not she was still on the OP's ignore list, as she could not have had any idea whether the OP had directed this apology towards her as well.

FACT 3: You started assuming that Miss Vicky's intentions were bad, while people who've known her for years told you repeatedly that they weren't.

These are three facts that aren't refutable and they lead to a different conclusion than the one you are making. :)

[cricket]

and how you know that, pray tell.

Because that's what she said and there's no reason not to believe her.

This is a friendly place and disagreements should be on film related subjects, not over harmless questions, especially when they don't concern us, and they should never cause this much drama.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Why is everything about Miss Vicky??? Miss Vicky didn't threaten to leave the forum today. She's doing alright. I'm the one nobody wants to take seriously. What is this?!

[Joel]

Hey new Avatar. I might change mine

Yeah, change that avatar Dani8. :p

[Dani8]

Hey new Avatar. I might change mine

Yeah, change that avatar Dani8. :p
I like it but it's not the right colour palette

[Sexy Celebrity]

I like it but it's not the right colour palette

Then it's perfect for you.

[Joel]

I like it but it's not the right colour palette

dteam apology aside, I think the right color palette is what you choose next, and I for one would like to see it.

[Cobpyth]

Why is everything about Miss Vicky??? Miss Vicky didn't threaten to leave the forum today. She's doing alright. I'm the one nobody wants to take seriously. What is this?!

You're harder to defend against people who can't see you in the proper context.

[Dani8]

I like it but it's not the right colour palette

dteam apology aside, I think the right color palette is what you choose next, and I for one would like to see it.
You're fun joel

[Sexy Celebrity]

You're harder to defend against people who can't see you in the proper context.

I'm like a blind person and Miss Vicky is my seeing eye dog.

[Little Devil]

[QUOTE]FACT 1: Miss Vicky did not know she was still on the OP's ignore list after he created this thread, as it gives the impression of also potentially being directed at her. The OP clearly mentions that there were conflicts due to misunderstandings and that he had needlessly put up his guard at times. The conflict she had with him could have categorized under any of those explanations. It was perfectly logical of Miss Vicky to think that the OP may have removed her from his ignore list. There was absolutely no way for her to know.
Miss Vicky knows she is on his Ignore List since he put her there.
FACT 2: Miss Vicky asked a direct question to verify whether or not she was still on the OP's ignore list, as she could not have had any idea whether the OP had directed this apology towards her as well.She herself said if she were to send him a PM she wouldn't be able to. Which further proves she knows she is in his List.

FACT 3: You started assuming that Miss Vicky's intentions were bad, while people who've known her for years told you repeatedly that they weren't.I know they are. They are there since the first time they have had a diatribe. Furthermore there were also 2 other attempts at this same thread on the first page. It's the typical group mentality.

But if you want to use your knowing her I can easily say I know Dteam better than anyone else. It's pretty irrelevant to the point.

These are three facts that aren't refutable and they lead to a different conclusion than the one you are making. :)And as it is, I just refuted them.

[Miss Vicky]

I've tried to stay out of this, but it's has gotten way out of hand and my words and intentions are being twisted and misinterpreted and it needs to stop.

Yes, I knew that I had been put on dteam's ignore list. He and OdumC made it ABUNDANTLY clear that they didn't like me and that they had me on ignore (see the IMDb Assimilation thread, among others).

However, I was hoping that dteam's apology meant that he was actually willing to put aside differences, leave his IMDb baggage at the door, and try to move forward with the MoFo community as a whole - and, like it or not, I'm part of that community. I was also not the only person who questioned this possibility (see Omnizoa's post), just the only person to ask the question directly.

My intent in asking the question was merely to get clarification about dteam's plan for his future here. That's it. But Little Devil insisted that my intentions were more to instigate and rile people up. I stated that was not my intent and I also asked LD to stop interjecting. He ignored that request and continued to accuse me of trying to cause a problem - and in doing so accused me of lying about my intentions.

dteam can keep me on his ignore list. He has that right. If he's unwilling to attempt to make amends and go forward amicably, that's his right too. But it's also my right to state my opinion that an apology without any attempt to reconcile with those he's had disagreements with in the past is an empty one because nothing can change if he's not willing to make changes himself.

[cricket]

You're completely wrong dude.

Even if you were right, you're not the thread police and you shouldn't have gotten involved the way you did. That's not just you but anyone.

[Sexy Celebrity]

I feel the same way as my seeing eye dog, Miss Vicky.

[Little Devil]

[QUOTE]Because that's what she said and there's no reason not to believe her.I could use the irony about needing the proof of willingness [actions, words and all that]. But she also presented the faux dilemma; which is sufficient.

This is a friendly place and disagreements should be on film related subjects, not over harmless questions, especially when they don't concern us, and they should never cause this much drama.I agree in all fronts. Except the question wasn't harmless at all and if you feel inclined to make someone else's defense you can't expect others not to abide by the same principle [though, as I said, I'm not defending Dteam].

[dteam6]

Hey new Avatar. I might change mine

Yeah, I make it a habit to change mine every couple weeks or so.

[Little Devil]

I've tried to stay out of this, but it's has gotten way out of hand and my words and intentions are being twisted and misinterpreted and it needs to stop.

Yes, I knew that I had been put on dteam's ignore list. He and OdumC made it ABUNDANTLY clear that they didn't like me and that they had me on ignore (see the IMDb Assimilation thread, among others).

However, I was hoping that dteam's apology meant that he was actually willing to put aside differences, leave his IMDb baggage at the door, and try to move forward with the MoFo community as a whole - and, like it or not, I'm part of that community. I was also not the only person who questioned this possibility (see Omnizoa's post), just the only person to ask the question directly.

My intent in asking the question was merely to get clarification about dteam's plan for his future here. That's it. But @Little Devil (http://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=95629) insisted that my intentions were more to instigate and rile people up. I stated that was not my intent and I also asked LD to stop interjecting. He ignored that request and continued to accuse me of trying to cause a problem - and in doing so accused me of lying about my intentions.

dteam can keep me on his ignore list. He has that right. If he's unwilling to attempt to make amends and go forward amicably, that's his right too. But it's also my right to state my opinion that an apology without any attempt to reconcile with those he's had disagreements with in the past is an empty one because nothing can change if he's not willing to make changes himself.

Thank you for your honesty about you knowing you were on his Ignore List and for re-iforcing what I said about Omnizoa [although not quoting him directly; after all it's the second time the dude does the same thing]

This is all I needed.

[cricket]

She knew she had been put on it, she didn't know she was still on it. Omg dude you're missing this whole thread.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Yeah, I make it a habit to change mine every couple weeks or so.

Do you ever switch to a Luigi avatar?

Or is Luigi on your ignore list?

What about Toad?

[Little Devil]

You're completely wrong dude.

Even if you were right, you're not the thread police and you shouldn't have gotten involved the way you did. That's not just you but anyone.
"pot meat kettle" case, and I agree.

[d_chatterley]

I'm just glad you are sticking around @dteam6 (https://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=95647). :)

[Little Devil]

She knew she had been put on it, she didn't know she was still on it. Omg dude you're missing this whole thread.
No, I'm not.

[dteam6]

I'm just glad you are sticking around @dteam6 (https://www.movieforums.com/community/member.php?u=95647). :)

Thanks! So am I! :)

[cricket]

"pot meat kettle" case, and I agree.

You're right, but there's an enormous difference between a peacemaker and a troublemaker.

[Cobpyth]

Miss Vicky knows she is on his Ignore List since he put her there.

The context changed after this unclear apology thread, as has been stated many times. If you don't acknowledge this, then I must conclude that you're being willfully blind to this obvious change of context.

She herself said if she were to send him a PM she wouldn't be able to. Which further proves she knows she is in his List.

That was a hypothetical statement. He would not have received her PM IF she was still on his ignore list. This has been painfully clear for a while. Again, if you're unwilling to acknowledge this, I must conclude for myself that you're being willfully biased.

I know they are. They are there since the first time they have had a diatribe. Furthermore there were also 2 other attempts at this same thread on the first page. It's the typical group mentality.

You cannot possibly know someone's intentions unless you are a mind reader. You can simply conclude what someone's intentions were based on evidence. We're offering you the evidence which demonstrates that her intentions are not what you think they are, but you seem to be unwilling to accept it. I regret this.

But if you want to use your knowing her I can easily say I know Dteam better than anyone else. It's pretty irrelevant to the point.

No, it's not. We're exclusively talking about Miss Vicky's intentions here. The OP's intentions have long been established and we have had the decency not to question them, because we don't like to judge people before we get to know them. It's regretful that this decency was not shown towards Miss Vicky in this thread.

And as it is, I just refuted them.

You most certainly did not. The facts remain.

Again, I don't want this to become a debate based on wits. I simply want you to realize that you started a conflict that didn't need to be there. That's all.

In order to make things faster and easier, I will therefore simply ask you the following question:

Do you believe that there is any possibility that you may have been wrong about Miss Vicky's intentions?

Your answer to this question will make things much clearer for me and will prevent us from further unnecessary debate.

If the answer is "no", then there's no point in debating any longer.

If the answer is "yes", then I'm glad that you recognize this possibility and I propose that we leave it on that high note.

[cricket]

No, I'm not.

Sorry man but you did, you got everything in the thread wrong. On top of that you went about it the wrong way. I'll see ya in the song tourney thread.

[Little Devil]

You're right, but there's an enormous difference between a peacemaker and a troublemaker.
there sure is.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Why does Little Devil speak for Dteam6?

It's like they have a Master Blaster relationship from Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome. Little Devil is the little guy (Master) and Dteam6 is the big guy (Blaster).

Miss Vicky is Mad Max and I'm Aunty Entity (Tina Turner).

[Sexy Celebrity]

And Dani8 and the rest of the IMDB crew are the obnoxious Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome children.

[Little Devil]

[QUOTE]The context changed after this unclear apology thread, as has been stated many times. If you don't acknowledge this, then I must conclude that you're being willfully blind to this obvious change of context.Miss Vicky just let all people know that she did know about it, as I stated. So no, I'm not being blind, I'm stating a fact that was also stated by the party in question [as you can read somewhere around this page]



That was a hypothetical statement. He would not have received her PM IF she was still on his ignore list. This has been painfully clear for a while. Again, if you're unwilling to acknowledge this, I must conclude for myself that you're being willfully biased.as explained above.



You cannot possibly know someone's intentions unless you are a mind reader. You can simply conclude what someone's intentions were based on evidence. We're offering you the evidence which demonstrates that her intentions are not what you think they are, but you seem to be unwilling to accept it. I regret this.words of thirds - as well intentioned as they may be don't necessarily produce a fact nor evidence. I can accept that you believe it to be the case but can not accept that you know the case to be so [obviously; and has nothing to do with you knowing the person in question, but rather that I know none]



No, it's not. We're exclusively talking about Miss Vicky's intentions here. The OP's intentions have long been established and we have had the decency not to question them, because we don't like to judge people before we get to know them. It's regretful that this decency was not shown towards Miss Vicky in this thread.We had the same problem when we arrived. And yet we passed that,



You most certainly did not. The facts remain.See above.

Again, I don't want this to become a debate based on wits. I simply want you to realize that you started a conflict that didn't need to be there. That's all.it isn't a battle of wits at all. I certainly don't see it that way. As for the second part, I will remain in doubt.

In order to make things faster and easier, I will therefore simply ask you the following question:

Do you believe that there is any possibility that you may have been wrong about Miss Vicky's intentions?

Your answer to this question will make things much clearer for me and will prevent us from further unnecessary debate.

If the answer is "no", then there's no point in debating any longer.

If the answer is "yes", then I'm glad that you recognize this possibility and I propose that we leave it on that high note.Only time can tell.

[Little Devil]

Why does Little Devil speak for Dteam6?

It's like they have a Master Blaster relationship from Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome. Little Devil is the little guy (Master) and Dteam6 is the big guy (Blaster).

Miss Vicky is Mad Max and I'm Aunty Entity (Tina Turner).
I don't. I made an observation, the observation was questioned, I demonstrated the falacy, and so on, till the person in question answered it for me.

[cricket]

I don't. I made an observation, the observation was questioned, I demonstrated the falacy, and so on, till the person in question answered it for me.

I thought I was done here but you are misrepresenting her words and that should stop.

[cricket]

She knew she had been on ignore, not that she still was. You need to understand that.

[Omnizoa]

I demonstrated the falacy,
Downvote.

[Sexy Celebrity]

MOVIE FORUMS 2017:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAe76RWkyPI

MAD VICKY
& MASTER BLASTER,
THERE'S ONLY ONE WAY TO SETTLE THIS:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S09YC5UPrIk

[TheUsualSuspect]

Are people fighting in an apology thread?

[mark f]

Time to close another thread.

[Dani8]

Time to close another thread.
I agree. it's the wort

[Citizen Rules]

Yup SC's got the right idea, we need a MoFo Thunder Dome thread to contain all the fighting. When ever a dispute breaks out, it gets sent to the Dome...self contained that way.

[Omnizoa]

Miss Vicky's restated her case, and Ash, Cobpyth, and Cricket have clearly explained why it is justified.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Yup SC's got the right idea, we need a MoFo Thunder Dome thread to contain all the fighting. When ever a dispute breaks out, it gets sent to the Dome...self contained that way.

There's already a couple of them:

The MoFo Fight Club and Thunderdome (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=37103)

The Pretend You're Fighting MoFo Thunderdome (https://www.movieforums.com/community/showthread.php?t=34597)

[d_chatterley]

https://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0alrwfpQd1r3tiwzo1_400.gif

[Sexy Celebrity]

https://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0alrwfpQd1r3tiwzo1_400.gif

https://az616578.vo.msecnd.net/files/2016/11/05/636139161439161375-2134084752_giphy.gif

[Sexy Celebrity]

http://68.media.tumblr.com/a3fca039662f9764315efefa6a7fa9eb/tumblr_mhw8c0Bx1o1r2jnbbo2_r1_500.gif

[d_chatterley]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-AVLcMIHn-Gs/UqR1JcwR3eI/AAAAAAAABco/e3n_NS1EBzk/s1600/whtbj+but+you+are+blanche.gif

[Sexy Celebrity]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-AVLcMIHn-Gs/UqR1JcwR3eI/AAAAAAAABco/e3n_NS1EBzk/s1600/whtbj+but+you+are+blanche.gif

https://m.popkey.co/2328a8/A5g0g.gif

[Dexter007]

The hell's happening?

[Cobpyth]

*rest of the post*

Only time can tell.

You keep repeating refuted claims, refuse to recognize simple facts and seemingly are unable to answer a simple "yes" or "no" question. Your responses do not hold up against the mainstream standards of rational and fruitful discussion.

There's no sense in keeping this conversation going if this is the level at which you want to have it.

[Sexy Celebrity]

The hell's happening?

http://25.media.tumblr.com/09ab69b665a814f03a66501a5214d96a/tumblr_n0f6ixeu521suzl23o5_250.gif

[Dexter007]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/09ab69b665a814f03a66501a5214d96a/tumblr_n0f6ixeu521suzl23o5_250.gif

Everything makes sense now. I missed this website.

[Zotis]

Pages and pages of pointless bickering. What has this thread become since I last poked in?

[Sarge]

http://www.gifbin.com/bin/052011/1306866467_jumping_out_the_window.gif

[Sarge]

Dteam

You should take SC and MV off your ignore list. Clean slate and all that. If it doesn't work for you, put them back on.

If you really need someone in there, I will volunteer as tribute to take their place.

12 pages and counting... :D

[Omnizoa]

Dteam

You should take SC and MV off your ignore list. Clean slate and all that. If it doesn't work for you, put them back on.

If you really need someone in there, I will volunteer as tribute to take their place.

12 pages and counting... :D
He can leave me on there. The loneliness keeps me warm.

[mattiasflgrtll6]

God yall are a bunch of drama

Just talk about how over rated Crash is or some sh*t

This is the best post in the thread.


Anyway, I never had a problem with dteam6. I didn't even know he had fighted with so many. Glad you're staying.

[gandalf26]

OK that's cool, thanks.

If it helps you, try thinking of MoFo like a small town where everybody knows everybody, we might not all love each other and sometimes we fuss at each other, but we never forget that we are arguing with a fellow MoFo...and not some nameless faceless stranger that doesn't matter, (which is how IMDB boards were.)

That's why MoFo is the best movie community on the internet:)

Was gonna say something like this. You can be having a serious disagreement in a thread about something but there are generally no hard feelings about it. Take a bit of time to learn everyone's character, some of the members here have been keeping this small community going for 15+ years and we're glad to have some refugee's from IMDB to spice things up a bit.

[Iroquois]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwfuUyTMpVY

[Zotis]

https://i.imgflip.com/lkp5d.jpg

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs2/3604895_o.gif

http://new2.fjcdn.com/gifs/Abandon_858da6_2442859.gif

http://img.pandawhale.com/26532-Red-Bull-felix-baumgartner-Aba-OV0M.gif

http://www.lovethisgif.com/uploaded_images/56714-Sponge-Bob-gif-gif-Animation-Animated-Pictures-explosion.gif

It's all Miss Vicky's fault too.

[Ðèstîñy]

All is good though, D... :)

Hey now, I'm big D, and he's little d. ;)



I don't think we've said anything to each other just yet, but welcome to the board, little d. :)
Enjoy your time here.

[dteam6]

You're right, but there's an enormous difference between a peacemaker and a troublemaker.
You can take my word (or not--your choice) on this: Little Devil isn't trying to cause trouble here.

[Iroquois]

Yet he's so good at it.

[dteam6]

Dteam

You should take SC and MV off your ignore list. Clean slate and all that. If it doesn't work for you, put them back on.

If you really need someone in there, I will volunteer as tribute to take their place.

12 pages and counting... :D
I appreciate your suggestion, but no. Sorry. My decision is final. As I stated, I don't expect to be popular or liked by everyone for my decision...nor do I care. What I care about is moving forward and having people either respect my decision or not doing so. In the end, no one can change my mind on this matter--not even my friends (and they've tried, believe me).


When and if I EVER decide to remove anyone from my ignore list will be on MY own time, MY own terms and, ultimately, my own decision.


At this point (and this isn't just directed at you, so don't get me wrong) I would like for everyone to just drop it because I am NOT removing these people from my ignore list. Not now, at least.


My answer to EVERYONE regarding this ignore issue is simple: if you can't make peace with my decision then that's fine...but I would appreciate it if people would stop asking me about this.


So, anyone willing to accept my decision, I look forward to future discussions with you. Anyone unwilling to accept...well, I don't know what to say other than maybe you should turn your attention to another poster.


Thank you.

[Omnizoa]

I appreciate your suggestion, but no. Sorry. My decision is final. As I stated, I don't expect to be popular or liked by everyone for my decision...nor do I care.
spitinthewind.jpg

[dteam6]

Hey now, I'm big D, and he's little d. ;)



I don't think we've said anything to each other just yet, but welcome to the board, little d. :)
Enjoy your time here.
Not neither big D nor little D....I'm Mario. :yup:

[Omnizoa]

My answer to EVERYONE regarding this ignore issue is simple: if you can't make peace with my decision then that's fine...but I would appreciate it if people would stop asking me about this.

So, anyone willing to accept my decision, I look forward to future discussions with you. Anyone unwilling to accept...well, I don't know what to say other than maybe you should turn your attention to another poster.
https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=29573&stc=1&d=1490701373

Your apology is not accepted.

[The Rodent]

Hey now, I'm big D, and he's little d. ;)



I don't think we've said anything to each other just yet, but welcome to the board, little d. :)
Enjoy your time here.



You're Big Ð

[Little Devil]

Downvote.
carrots

[Omnizoa]

carrots
moose

Thank you for unblocking me.

[Little Devil]

https://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=29573&stc=1&d=1490701373

Your apology is not accepted.



he isn't apologizing to you, so... watermelons.

[Little Devil]

moose

Thank you for unblocking me.
You were never on my ignore list. You did ask for me to put you there though. Gluttony for punishment and all that.

[Omnizoa]

he isn't apologizing to you, so... watermelons.
Speak for yourself.

[Little Devil]

spitinthewind.jpg
fail.

[Iroquois]

Yeah, Omni, if Little Devil is going to put you on ignore, he will let you know it.

[Omnizoa]

You were never on my ignore list. You did ask for me to put you there though. Gluttony for punishment and all that.
So you can ignore people without a block function. Interesting.

[Little Devil]

Speak for yourself.
pot ----> kettle.