View Full Version : The Walking Dead: Season 7
Fabulous
07-22-16, 05:55 PM
The official Season 7 trailer premiered today:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmUz88zoIg0
Looks strong :up: I wonder if theyre gonna switch it up from the comic book to surprise us, and he picks someone different. There was a serious negative backlash to how the last season ended, maybe theyll balk.
Derek Vinyard
07-22-16, 06:24 PM
Look awesome !!
Fabulous
07-22-16, 06:24 PM
Looks strong :up: I wonder if theyre gonna switch it up from the comic book to surprise us, and he picks someone different. There was a serious negative backlash to how the last season ended, maybe theyll balk.
Spoilers have already been released on the outcome of that scene, if you're interested in that kind of stuff.
Fabulous
07-25-16, 04:02 AM
TWD Comic Con Panel 2016:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gzJa5EsxjU
Norman Reedus pranks Andrew Lincoln....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlDrETVil2o
Lincolns attempt at revenge at the comic con....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCybJftNmwk
Looking at Derek Vineyards avatar .....Tom Hardy looks ALOT like Andrew Lincoln.
http://www.movieforums.com/community/customavatars/avatar84041_146.gif.pagespeed.ce.pjEmQE38y0.gif
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__EaYUdJ0Z4
https://i.imgflip.com/11ziy3.jpg
https://img.ifcdn.com/images/62b2997e283a635e92781666d7ea95bb912ba368a0c0963b7a96ff6338c09e7a_1.jpg
https://cdn.meme.am/instances/58996716.jpg
OOooo, lol thats a good one though ;)
https://i.imgflip.com/1256t2.jpg
http://images.memes.com/meme/959045
https://67.media.tumblr.com/69c0ae38269dfa3213ac41dcdf60ff55/tumblr_o54ufw8nuj1qcx4pyo1_500.jpg
http://undeadwalking.com/files/2016/04/FB_IMG_1459863987090.jpg
https://cdn.meme.am/instances/65754853.jpg
TheUsualSuspect
10-10-16, 10:15 PM
If the rumours are true as to who dies....I'll be upset.
Ive heard 3 or 4 different people.
Captain Steel
10-10-16, 10:22 PM
That Negan... he's a regular Comedian!
Yeah it seems all the possible victims are the cool ones. sheesh! I thought they were keeping the priest around for this reason, I cant remember if hes in that group or not, but im sure theyd give him to Negan in a cannon foddery fashion.
Giving the priest to Negan is about as impactful as letting him kill a random stranger.
Fabulous
10-11-16, 03:04 AM
Official Season 7 Sneak Peek:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_k4gsUmw7lU
Fabulous
10-11-16, 03:08 AM
The Walking Dead: The Journey So Far - Sneak Peek:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYqexCk8Jig
Derek Vinyard
10-11-16, 03:17 AM
cannot wait !!!!!!!
Fabulous
10-11-16, 11:18 PM
New York Comic-Con 2016 Panel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDH8HvlHWCg
Fabulous
10-11-16, 11:20 PM
If the rumours are true as to who dies....I'll be upset.
The spoilers have been out for a while now if you want to know for sure.
TheUsualSuspect
10-11-16, 11:22 PM
The spoilers have been out for a while now if you want to know for sure.
I still consider them rumours.
Fabulous
10-11-16, 11:28 PM
I still consider them rumours.
That's fine. ;)
So how about some guesses on what happens during the opener? Just for fun of course. I have no idea other than educated guessed and watching the trailers, and it
has nothing to do with leaked spoilers or anything like that.
So here are my thoughts:
Firstly - who bites it?
Rick is safe
Sasha or Abraham, in my mind, would be boring ( I mean in comparison) and this show is anything but that.
I am not thinking it is Carl because of dialogue, but I could be wrong on this easily.
Maggie? Another possibility and a viable one - but I don't think it is her.
Daryl - nope cause I would be pissed ;)
Glen - this is who I am hoping it is. Not because I dislike the character but because it would be the most devastating to me as a fan I think. However, not my guess.
Eugene - doubtful
Rosita - meh
Aaron - meh
So that leaves Michonne
It is a total guess of course, but her and Rick just recently got really close and other than Carl I think it would hit him the hardest at this moment.
As far as other possible deaths or major things other than the introduction of new characters it appears as if Rick might get messed up pretty badly but will it be his hand?
This is a tough one for me because it seems obvious, yet I am not so sure. Either way it doesn't look good.
I am really excited for this season, of course I have been about every season but the cliffhanger sucked but definitely did its job.
Thoughts from anyone else?
Heres my guess...
Now one of the rumors is that 2 people are supposed to die. I think the producers may be trying to swerve us and it not be who died in the comic. IMO Negan's gonna kill pregnant Maggie, it would be the most horrific choice, and would kill two people. I wouldnt be surprised if Glenn had to be killed too if that is his choice.
How bout this question - If he had to kill someone"s" then who should Negan kill? Id say Rick and Abraham. Ricks their leader, a position Negans taking, and Abraham stood up to him. No reason he wouldnt do it again. That would be the obvious logical choice. Pretty sure they wont go that direction.
Im hoping they let us all down and just kill Rosita and Aaron ;)
Captain Steel
10-12-16, 12:48 AM
My guess was Daryl - only because as soon as the last season ended there were commercials that Norman Reedus was getting his own TV series. So it seemed like he was branching out, and when an actor does that, they usually soon leave their old jobs behind.
My guess was Daryl - only because as soon as the last season ended there were commercials that Norman Reedus was getting his own TV series. So it seemed like he was branching out, and when an actor does that, they usually soon leave their old jobs behind.
Ew! Thats scares me it makes so much sense. :facepalm: Though George Clooney did double duty for a couple or few years doing E.R. and movies too. Another thing, I heard Daryl isnt in the comics, hes a complete creation for the show.
Captain Steel
10-12-16, 02:03 AM
Ew! Thats scares me it makes so much sense. :facepalm: Though George Clooney did double duty for a couple or few years doing E.R. and movies too. Another thing, I heard Daryl isnt in the comics, hes a complete creation for the show.
That's true about Daryl - I had the honor of a co-worker lending me the first few TPB's of Walking Dead comics, which is the only reason I started watching the show. (I'm not big on committing to TV shows you have to follow.)
Daryl's show was called "Ride With Norman Reedus" (a travel show on AMC). I never saw it, but supposedly the first 6 episode season aired this past summer & it had been renewed for another season in 2017.
So my guess about who gets whacked in WD has nothing to do with clues in the show, but with the reality of what's going on with the actors. "Ride With Norman Reedus" is the only clue I'm basing my guess on.
I have figured this out at least, if he ends up killing Daryl, or Maggie that will end up making Negan the bad guy. :yup:
Too bad The Walking Dead isnt a live production badumch! that way Vegas could take odds on all this stuff.
They better not kill Daryl! At least make him a zombie and he can have his own spinoff show. Zombie Daryl would get some viewers, and he practically is stinky looking anyway.
Captain Steel
10-12-16, 02:28 AM
How about this - somebody has a stroke or head wound that destroys part of their brain which gets infected with the zombie virus because that part of the brain is "dead", but the other half of their brain is still functioning. So they'd be a living zombie!
I think I posted this theory earlier somewhere, but I say that some of the zombies would be dying off over time. The way to kill them is to destroy the brain. Brains are made of very soft tissue. To sustain physical viability they need oxygen via respiration & blood flow, water and food. Zombies that are trapped and thus can't take in water or eat would have brains that would dry out and rot and fall apart in a short period of time.
How about this - somebody has a stroke or head wound that destroys part of their brain which gets infected with the zombie virus because that part of the brain is "dead", but the other half of their brain is still functioning. So they'd be a living zombie!
I think I posted this theory earlier somewhere, but I say that some of the zombies would be dying off over time. The way to kill them is to destroy the brain. Brains are made of very soft tissue. To sustain physical viability they need oxygen via respiration & blood flow, water and food. Zombies that are trapped and thus can't take in water or eat would have brains that would dry out and rot and fall apart in a short period of time.
Yeah its just not scientifically possible there could be zombies. Closest you can come up with it is a voodoo doctor with some bath salts. A zombie apocalypse would have to be a magical phenomena, and who knows what theyd be like then.
Why do they eat, and why do they ever stop eating? It has to be meat?! Why not corn? Would they eat a tofu burger? Theyre just scratching the surface with this stuff. ;)
Oh my gosh theres an inexhaustible amount of "spoiler" vids on YouTube, and most say different people. It would make sense if the show put some money into stirring it up even further, and suggested a variety as deflection. Is that insight or years of watching how pro-wrestling operates? :p
Fabulous
10-12-16, 01:04 PM
Oh my gosh theres an inexhaustible amount of "spoiler" vids on YouTube, and most say different people. It would make sense if the show put some money into stirring it up even further, and suggested a variety as deflection. Is that insight or years of watching how pro-wrestling operates? :p
The Spoiling Dead Fans is the best source.
Austruck
10-19-16, 05:15 PM
Oh my gosh theres an inexhaustible amount of "spoiler" vids on YouTube, and most say different people. It would make sense if the show put some money into stirring it up even further, and suggested a variety as deflection. Is that insight or years of watching how pro-wrestling operates? :p
If you've been watching AMC for other things the past few weeks, you will have seen different, but similar commercials for TWD. In each one they take a character and show us "The Beginning" of when they came into the show, and then they cut to "The End?" and show us that character as part of Negan's line-up at the end of season 6. They have these commercials for each of the characters in that line-up, and they rotate through them.
So they're already suggesting a variety (namely, any of them). And, as furious as nearly everyone was when season 6 ended, the writers/producers have got to be patting themselves on the back right about now. That season ending did exactly what they had hoped and we're all chomping at the bit for that season opener this weekend.
Well played, AMC. Well played.
Austruck
10-19-16, 05:17 PM
As we head into season 7, we need a recap of the past six seasons, right? And do we need to watch AMC's two-hour recap show? Nope. We have John Cleese to take us through all six seasons in madcap style... in about four minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU0eizwlejs
Austruck
10-19-16, 05:21 PM
...except that Mr. Cleese's ending give the date as Oct. 24, and it's Oct. 23. :)
TONIGHT
http://cdn1-www.comingsoon.net/assets/uploads/gallery/the-walking-dead-season-7/the-walking-dead-season-7-rick-lincoln-michonne-gurira-cci-key-art-1200x707-1.jpg
Fabulous
10-23-16, 06:20 PM
I enjoyed AMC's marathon of TWD this past week. Had a lot of fun playing the episodes in the background as I was doing things around the house. Watching those early Seasons gave me so much nostalgia. They're showing 6B now if you want to catch up or refresh yourself before the premiere.
gandalf26
10-23-16, 06:23 PM
Its got to be the guy from Alexandria right? the guy that found them all and brought them with the backpack, I can see no other legitimate choice.
Fabulous
10-23-16, 06:25 PM
Its got to be the guy from Alexandria right? the guy that found them all and brought them with the backpack, I can see no other legitimate choice.
You mean Aaron, the recruiter from Alexandria, is your prediction? I would be upset if it's him because it would feel too much like a cop out. I want it to be one of the Atlanta 5 or someone from the first couple of Seasons. It needs to be someone we really care about.
Derek Vinyard
10-23-16, 06:27 PM
Prediction all ?
Fabulous
10-23-16, 06:28 PM
Prediction all ?
I've been reading spoilers, so I can't make a true prediction.
I think Im right on my prediction, but I didnt see anything that said for sure who it would be. If Im right I actually dont want to say, hm.
Warning - This is a "damn good guess" spoiler! :yup:
Maggie and Glenn
I don't know, so I can speculate a little (though I know who it is in the comic books), but yeah: I don't think they can build it up this much and not kill off someone who's been around since the beginning, or nearly so, or else someone who's become a big fan favorite in a shorter period of time. Anything else feels cheap.
I'm not sure I'm going to keep watching past tonight, but we'll see.
Captain Steel
10-23-16, 09:35 PM
Prediction all ?
I made mine earlier on this thread - and it's not based on clues but on what the actors are doing in their own careers.
I made mine earlier on this thread - and it's not based on clues but on what the actors are doing in their own careers.
They better not kill off Daryl. :mad: If theyre smart theyll write in how Negan provides food and antibiotics towards Daryls recovery. :yup:
http://twdfansite.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/201501_1134_bafbi.jpg
Derek Vinyard
10-23-16, 09:51 PM
They better not kill off Daryl. :mad: If theyre smart theyll write in how Negan provides food and antibiotics towards Daryls recovery. :yup:
http://twdfansite.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/201501_1134_bafbi.jpg
I will be so f*cking pissed if they kill Daryl you cannot even imagine.
Captain Steel
10-23-16, 10:17 PM
Do I win something if I'm right (aside from everyone's everlasting hatred?) ;)
Derek Vinyard
10-23-16, 10:27 PM
D*MNNNN SON
Well, that sucked. :sick: Coulda been worse, I guess.
Derek Vinyard
10-23-16, 10:36 PM
Well, that sucked. :sick: Coulda been worse, I guess.
those scenes were amazing tho. Totally badass
Wait a minute.............that second flashback better not have been a flashback :mad: :eek:
Captain Steel
10-23-16, 10:41 PM
This show is insensitive and racist! Obviously influenced by Trump!
Yeah, wow Jeffrey Dean Morgan is single handedly gonna make me go watch the second half of season 5 and all of season 6 just for this.
Also I was right on my personal prediction, so that was cool.
Although, I was hoping I'd be wrong because I would have preferred a certain someone else die.
Derek Vinyard
10-23-16, 11:06 PM
That was one hell of a great episode.
Well, I hope this is the last time someone dies where we have to think about it first. The random chaos and mortality of the show is compelling, but this came off like I was watching The Hitcher meets Saw. A sadomasochistic watch. :sick:
Derek Vinyard
10-23-16, 11:11 PM
Well, I hope this is the last time someone dies where we have to think about it first. The random chaos and mortality of the show is compelling, but this came off like I was watching The Hitcher meets Saw. A sadomasochistic watch. :sick:
It was awesome !
Captain Steel
10-23-16, 11:25 PM
For the next week, the most popular homemade Halloween costume (with production commencing as of now) will be...
Bulgy Eyed Glenn!
Austruck
10-24-16, 12:31 AM
Well, not a single moment of let-up or respite this time. I needed the entire 90 minutes of Talking Dead to recuperate from the never-ending violence and gore of this episode. The second death was a bit unnecessarily graphic, IMHO.
Captain Steel
10-24-16, 12:48 AM
Well, not a single moment of let-up or respite this time. I needed the entire 90 minutes of Talking Dead to recuperate from the never-ending violence and gore of this episode. The second death was a bit unnecessarily graphic, IMHO.
On that note: on Talking Dead they read a letter from someone who said they "grew up" with Glenn (and then they remarked how the show's been on for 7 years). For me that begged the question "Are people letting children watch this show?"
I often wonder how many people let their kids watch this - because this is indeed adult programming. And it's not so much the zombie head smashing and gore as it is the regular themes of murder and violence among living human beings. And that has really been this story's draw - it's an allegory about human nature under stress. The zombies have always just been the background environment of the WD universe, while the stories within it could take place in any real world cataclysm where the societal structures break down: be it war, natural disaster, epidemic, loss of resources, food or power, etc.
Well, not a single moment of let-up or respite this time. I needed the entire 90 minutes of Talking Dead to recuperate from the never-ending violence and gore of this episode. The second death was a bit unnecessarily graphic, IMHO.
When Ive seen an incredible episode from a series I love, this isnt the feeling I have afterwards. :nope:
Carol better snap out of reality and become a detached killing machine again, Daryl needs rescuing!! :yup:
Damn episode. I have a feeling its gonna be far from a boring season, but fear theres more bad news to come. :sick:
TheUsualSuspect
10-24-16, 08:48 AM
Well, not a single moment of let-up or respite this time. I needed the entire 90 minutes of Talking Dead to recuperate from the never-ending violence and gore of this episode. The second death was a bit unnecessarily graphic, IMHO.
If you're referring to the eye bulge, it was a shot for shot recreation of the comic.
Even knowing who was getting the bat, this episode was intense. Superb acting from Andrew Lincoln and Morgan is great as Neegan.
Episode has aired, so much like other threads, I feel that spoilers are to be bound, but in any case.
I'm upset to see Abraham go, Glenn seemed obvious. But now I feel that Abraham's death is overshadowed by Glenn's. Too bad.
Well, I hope this is the last time someone dies where we have to think about it first. The random chaos and mortality of the show is compelling, but this came off like I was watching The Hitcher meets Saw. A sadomasochistic watch. :sick:
Yeah, I agree. I'm pretty close to checking out. I'd be willing to watch this kind of stuff as part of an otherwise highly compelling show, but, well, it isn't a highly compelling show. It has these little flashes of brilliance, but they're so short-lived.
After Abraham died, I thought "wow, that's way more restrained than I expected." I figured they'd wallow in it: someone gets clocked, becomes incoherent, everyone cries and moans, there's a big delay before they're properly killed, you see several hits in a row, etc. All that awful stuff. So yeah, of course they do all that the second time. It was disturbing for content reasons, but also because it can be weirdly predictable.
It feels like overcompensation for the show's weaknesses. It's almost like a threat: "Oh, you don't care about this character that much? Well what if they die? Haha, no, they didn't really die. Did you care? Okay, what if they really die this time, but slowly and painfully while their loved ones watch? NOW DO YOU CARE?"
Austruck
10-24-16, 11:12 AM
It feels like overcompensation for the show's weaknesses. It's almost like a threat: "Oh, you don't care about this character that much? Well what if they die? Haha, no, they didn't really die. Did you care? Okay, what if they really die this time, but slowly and painfully while their loved ones watch? NOW DO YOU CARE?"
Yeah, that's really starting to hit me now. I feel as if they're playing off the fact that we care about these characters and are getting lazy about better plotlines. (This includes Kirkman.) I am now thinking quite often: "Okay, we get it. They go around and find pockets of people. Some are good. Some are bad. They either join with them or fight them. Is there a point to this going forward?"
Is there any sort of end-story in sight? In anybody's mind? Or will they continue this ebb and flow until the ratings numbers start to dip and only then decide to wrap things up? And, if this is how the world is now, HOW would they ever wrap things up? If this represents the state of the world, then there is no ending that will feel complete.
And if there is some very different ending (a cure, civilization coming back properly, whatever), then they could get to that point any time now because the cycle of good-group / bad-group-led-by-a-crazy-villain is getting old.
I will say that Negan is, at least in the comics, not just another Big Bad; he has a different philosophy and (I don't think this is a spoiler given how much he's said already) is simply pragmatic about it. That, and some of the even more recent stuff in the comics that the (remaining) characters are dealing with is definitely a major departure from that formula you're talking about.
That said, yeah, I've been assuming for awhile that the show would just stretch each conflict out as much as possible, and insert little mini-ones in-between.
Why not? If you had a money printing machine, why on earth would you turn it off?
Austruck
10-24-16, 01:00 PM
Oh, I totally understand from a financial perspective why they would continue this series indefinitely... ESPECIALLY at this point. I'm betting last night's premiere was their highest ratings ever. So, bravo for them. I was talking from a strictly storyline perspective.
Glad to hear that perhaps the philosophy behind some of the thinking going forward might be different. The scenes from upcoming episodes did look vastly different, so I hope I am merely reacting to the gratuitous nature of this season opener. Even other premieres that opened with horrible scenes (the trough at Terminus) did not spend the entire episode flogging the viewers with carnage and instead showed us some bits of hope. I realize part of the point of the episode is that this is what it would take to break someone like Rick to the point he ended on. But it's also a STORY made up by people, so I sometimes have a hard time agreeing when writers say, "Well, that's what this character HAD to do" (or say or become). You created the characters. You created the story. You chose to show us that second death in all its disgusting detail. And yet you could have chosen other, slightly different paths.
I'm sure I'll feel differently once a second (less gory) episode hits.
Side note: It sure was surreal to have those intense scenes broken up by, for instance, Geico insurance commercials that were intended to be humorous.
Captain Steel
10-24-16, 01:10 PM
As far as Negan just being a pragmatist (and I don't know the character from the comics) I'd have to disagree that he's just someone doing what is necessary for survival and assert that he's evil.
A pragmatist would kill enemies quickly and efficiently and only as a last resort if the opportunities for mutually beneficial alliances could not be attained. Negan is an obvious sadist who relishes in the pain and torture of others.
Even in such a fantastic scenario, civilization could easily rebuild itself. There would just be very different protocols for how the terminally ill are treated and how the dead are disposed of. Hospitals, morgues and funeral homes would be equipped with cages, restraints and those bolt guns that are used in slaughter houses to kill cows - to distribute a bolt to the brain of every newly deceased person before cremation. One thing about humanity is they have an uncanny ability to rebound from wars, devastation, disasters and disease.
I would think that there would be many places like Alexandria. And military bases (where they have the firepower) would be established as secure zones and begin establishing perimeters outward.
https://twitter.com/TheCPrest/status/790377459980050432
https://twitter.com/basicallycohan/status/790380872331620352
https://twitter.com/jyrusaddict/status/790365028742488064
https://twitter.com/griffinmcelroy/status/790341934434791425
https://twitter.com/lgbtgreene/status/790380187259179008
https://twitter.com/Mydar/status/790385582283390976
https://twitter.com/juliatvgames/status/790367242806452224
https://twitter.com/grimmiesteam/status/790384005485125632
http://www.dorkly.com/post/81165/walking-dead-reactions
Austruck
10-24-16, 01:18 PM
Well, Tongo, that last one IS depressing. Hadn't looked at it that way.
Add on season 2/farm characters, and it stays pretty depressing.
Captain Steel
10-24-16, 01:28 PM
OTOH - this show always makes me think of hurricane Sandy from just a few years back. In a sense it was like the beginning of this series and the culprit was mostly due to the extended power outages - particularly the fact that gas pump could not longer distribute gas.
Things began to deteriorate quickly the day after. And I witnessed people begin to deteriorate in their behavior as well in the weeks that followed. Of course normalcy returned quickly once the power came back on in areas that weren't too badly hit.
But it did demonstrate, in an isolated area, how quickly things can break down in what would be a comparatively minor disaster compared to say a single nuclear attack, a large scale epidemic, an EMP attack, the grid going down from foreign interference, solar flares or a gamma pulse from distant stars, etc.
In a zombie apocalypse chaos would probably ensue early on, but I think order would quickly be restored because it's not like the power is actually out - it's just a matter of personnel to keep things up and running and a command structure to delegate manpower.
In a zombie apocalypse chaos would probably ensue early on, but I think order would quickly be restored because it's not like the power is actually out - it's just a matter of personnel to keep things up and running and a command structure to delegate manpower.
Slow moving zombies I completely agree. There would be horrible chaos at first, but the military, able citizens too, would get a handle on it. It may cause a world peace between countries even. :yup: Seriously, if its worldwide, nobody would want to war if you have to live in a world like that, where death is everpresent.
If they were fast moving zombies like Snyders DOTD, WW Z, or 28 Days/Weeks then we'd be completely screwed.
Captain Steel
10-24-16, 01:39 PM
Slow moving zombies I completely agree. There would be horrible chaos at first, but the military, able citizens too, would get a handle on it. It may cause a world peace between countries even. :yup: Seriously, if its worldwide, nobody would want to war if you have to live in a world like that, where death is everpresent.
If they were fast moving zombies like Snyders DOTD, WW Z, or 28 Days/Weeks then we'd be completely screwed.
What's funny is I was thinking the exact same thing. Speed would definitely give the zombies an advantage especially if it was greater than average speed.
And good point about bringing countries together - something like that, which we assume would be a global phenomenon, would definitely do it to some extent.
The ending of Night of the Living Dead (as tragic as it was) showed how quickly restoring order by rounding up and eliminating the zombie hordes could be (by a well armed citizenry of course... which means if Hillary becomes President we don't stand a chance in a zombie apocalypse). ;)
As far as Negan just being a pragmatist (and I don't know the character from the comics) I'd have to disagree that he's just someone doing what is necessary for survival and assert that he's evil.
A pragmatist would kill enemies quickly and efficiently and only as a last resort if the opportunities for mutually beneficial alliances could not be attained. Negan is an obvious sadist who relishes in the pain and torture of others.
Obviously I dunno what the next handful of episodes will be like, so it's entirely possible that they'll make him more of a sadist than he is in the comics. But I don't think they've closed this off yet, for a couple of reasons. First, because the horror of what he's done is obviously meant to destroy any inkling of rebellion they may have, so any messed up thing he does could be framed as just a means to that end. And second, because I think a lot of it is indifference more than revelry, though in the face of such violence, they start to look pretty similar.
Or, indeed, they'll mess it up horribly by just turning him into a slightly more jovial Big Bad than the last two or three. Wouldn't be the first time they did something wrong. ;)
Even in such a fantastic scenario, civilization could easily rebuild itself. There would just be very different protocols for how the terminally ill are treated and how the dead are disposed of. Hospitals, morgues and funeral homes would be equipped with cages, restraints and those bolt guns that are used in slaughter houses to kill cows - to distribute a bolt to the brain of every newly deceased person before cremation. One thing about humanity is they have an uncanny ability to rebound from wars, devastation, disasters and disease.
Yeah, there should be a lot more of this. I'd be pretty interested in a version of this show that's much more political/philosophical, with survivors debating whether or not they should try to rebuild the world as it was, or start over completely, or something sort of in-between. You can see a lot of people saying "whatever we do, it shouldn't be the same." Political idealists of one stripe or another would see it as an opportunity to ("now we can abolish property!"/"now we can have our libertarian utopia!"). Even if they come down in the middle, you're right, they'd have to change the way they respond (both legally and emotionally) to death, murder, prison, etc. You wouldn't be able to waste resources on prisoners, so the death penalty would have to be much more common.
Battlestar Galactica did this in an interesting way: by banning abortion. Humanity's numbers were dwindling and the government (such as it was) decided they needed everyone they could get. It was an interesting spin because it came at the issue from a direction totally foreign to the ones people approach it from in real life. And that's what would happen is this were real: lots of present day political issues would be considered from totally new angles.
Why don't they do all this? I'm pretty sure it's because the overwhelming majority of viewers watch because they like to be grossed out by bodies getting ripped or smashed apart. Anecdotally, I saw lots of people, during the first couple of seasons, complain when there wasn't much gore. And when there was something particularly gross, that was the thing they singled out. They just want crazy, brutal sh*t to happen.
Austruck
10-24-16, 01:56 PM
And, to piggyback off Yoda's last point... I think the special effects of just bashing in zombies and having burnt zombies and "old" decaying zombies is even getting old for viewers. So, what's left? What will give those viewers the thrill they once got from zombie special effects? Naturally, it'll be seeing living humans get smashed to bits. Last night's episode's worst moments were human-on-human violence and its graphic nature.
You know you're getting desensitized when a character is hanging off a hanging zombie ... and when its neck stretches and then gives out, you actually laugh because it's a break from the tension of the REST of the episode! Ha! :D
Captain Steel
10-24-16, 02:08 PM
Good post, Yoda!
I've said this before, but one reason I think the zombie craze is so popular is that we all have an innate desire (left over from our primitive ancestry) to bash another person's head in. This is nothing to be ashamed of - it's this same drive that indirectly motivates competition, sports, capitalism and patriotism when channeled in rational directions.
Obviously we can't meet every frustration by bashing heads or shooting people through the brain - not without some severe consequences, not the least of which is condemnation by one's own conscience. So the zombie thing is an outlet that caters to mankind's most bestial, predatory instincts, a fantasy: inconsequential violence, in self defense, on people who are already dead, so there's no conflict of morality nor legality.
It's a similar outlet that's gained by punching a heavy bag or playing first-person-shooter video games.
Captain Steel
10-24-16, 02:10 PM
You know you're getting desensitized when a character is hanging off a hanging zombie ... and when its neck stretches and then gives out, you actually laugh because it's a break from the tension of the REST of the episode! Ha! :D
I laughed at that too!
I laughed again at Talking Dead when they referred to it as the "Stretch Armstrong Walker"! :D
Good post, Yoda!
I've said this before, but one reason I think the zombie craze is so popular is that we all have an innate desire (left over from our primitive ancestry) to bash another person's head in. This is nothing to be ashamed of - it's this same drive that indirectly motivates competition, sports, capitalism and patriotism when channeled in rational directions.
Obviously we can't meet every frustration by bashing heads or shooting people through the brain - not without some severe consequences, not the least of which is condemnation by one's own conscience. So the zombie thing is an outlet that caters to mankind's most bestial, predatory instincts, a fantasy: inconsequential violence, in self defense, on people who are already dead, so there's no conflict of morality nor legality.
It's a similar outlet that's gained by punching a heavy bag or playing first-person-shooter video games.
Yeah, I think given enough wealth and technological progress, a desire for base outlets is inevitable. Not just in the ugly sense you mention, but in the slightly more understandable sense of desiring simplicity. As the world gets harder to navigate socially, culturally, whatever, I think dystopian fiction becomes more appealing less for the violence or suffering, and more for the "clean slate" feeling.
That, and the idea of building things anew and having to be self-sufficient is, of course, pretty deeply embedded in the DNA of most Americans; both culturally and, well, literally. We've pretty much all got revolutionaries and/or fiercely independent risk-takers as ancestors.
Austruck
10-24-16, 02:19 PM
I laughed at that too!
I laughed again at Talking Dead when they referred to it as the "Stretch Armstrong Walker"! :D
Ha! I was going to call it that here, but I didn't want to steal that hilarious reference. (And I needed the therapy of that whole 90 minutes last night.) :)
Captain Steel
10-24-16, 02:27 PM
This reminds me of a movie I watched called Vice (2015). Awful drag of a movie with a familiar concept that's been visited in many sci-fi films. It's much like the original Westworld (1973), where people go to a contained city inhabited by artificial people (automatons) to act out their basest fantasies, including rape, torture, murder, etc. Essentially, it's an adult amusement park. The artificials can be killed over & over, then reactivated, but they can't harm real humans.
And just imagine the depravity that something like a Holodeck would spawn - not to mention the addiction factor where people would just never leave once inside a fantasy. There are theories that say giving into base fantasies (such as with pornography) is just an addiction that only grows deeper the more one indulges, until it degrades all surrounding functions and leads to more & more extremes to fulfill the need for gratification.
That reminds me... I need to get off this Internet thingy for a while!
Austruck
10-24-16, 02:31 PM
There are theories that say giving into base fantasies (such as with pornography) is just an addiction that only grows deeper the more one indulges, until it degrades all surrounding functions and leads to more & more extremes to fulfill the need for gratification.
The irony here is that the show rightly depicts that with its progressing stages of violence (against the zombies, among the humans). In fact, it's portraying that theory quite well.
And yet, the theory also describes the ever-growing mass of viewers who are also in need of increasing amounts of gore and violence to satisfy them with this show.
Hmmm... and yeah, this interwebs thing has GOT to go!
What I like about this show is the character development, storytelling, and chaos factor. I havent read the comic, so dont know how this will end.
Im stunned more comic book titles like this arent getting developed to a tv series. Vertigo comics Sandman would be as strong as Game Of Thrones, better than The Walking Dead even, if done correctly.
Derek Vinyard
10-24-16, 03:43 PM
Daryl FTW.
Daryl FTW.
Oh, when he punched Negan I cried out like he was dead already. :eek: :facepalm: Steels deduction was looking spot-on being the actor has other projects, but he was spared. Why?
Because Daryl is just that damn cool. :yup:
Captain Steel
10-24-16, 07:22 PM
Oh, when he punched Negan I cried out like he was dead already. :eek: :facepalm: Steels deduction was looking spot-on being the actor has other projects, but he was spared. Why?
Because Daryl is just that damn cool. :yup:
Notice he's a prisoner - which may mean a lot less camera time in the early part of this season while he filmed the next season of Ride with Norman Reedus. Just a guess.
Who knows - I don't know the schedules of these Hollywood mucky mucks! ;)
I've said this before too - Norman Reedus authentically looks like a (fill in disparaging remark regarding backwoods inbred white-trash rednecks and / or stoners). Seriously - he's got permanently stoned looking eyes! :D
(I did see him younger and clean cut in an HBO movie about Betty Page!)
Notice he's a prisoner - which may mean a lot less camera time in the early part of this season while he filmed the next season of Ride with Norman Reedus. Just a guess.
Who knows - I don't know the schedules of these Hollywood mucky mucks! ;)
I've said this before too - Norman Reedus authentically looks like a (fill in disparaging remark regarding backwoods inbred white-trash rednecks and / or stoners). Seriously - he's got permanently stoned looking eyes! :D
(I did see him younger and clean cut in an HBO movie about Betty Page!)
Oh he's owning that backwoods Natural Born Killers thing to a T, and not a filthier sex symbol has there ever been. I still laugh remembering when that now dead blonde shot him thinking he was a Walker, I think it was season 2.
Does anyone know why they dont call them zombies? Is there a copyright thingy somewhere or is it just the shows personal pride they have never used that word? :laugh:
Oh I found the answer to my question...
Robert Kirkman reveals why zombies don't actually exist on "Walking Dead"
So, why are the living dead referred to as "walkers" instead of zombies on "The Walking Dead"?
One of the pleasures of watching AMC's new "Walking Dead" aftershow — "Talking Dead" — is the chance for fans to get answers to questions like that one. "Walking Dead" comics creator and TV series producer Robert Kirkman answered it on Sunday.
In the world of "The Walking Dead," he said, the concept of zombies doesn't exist.
"One of the things about this world is that people don't know how to shoot people in the head at first, and they're not familiar with zombies, per se," Kirkman said on "Talking Dead." "This isn't a world the (George) Romero movies exist in, for instance … because we don't want to portray it that way, we felt like having them be saying 'zombie' all the time would harken back to all of the zombie films which we, in the real world, know about.
"So by calling them something different, we're kind of giving a nod to … these people don't understand the situation. They've never seen this in pop culture, this is a completely new thing for them."
Captain Steel
10-24-16, 07:46 PM
I don't know if it was a copyright thing (I don't think the word is owned by anyone - it's like "vampires" or "werewolves"), but I think Kirkman just didn't want his work associated with a million other "zombie" stories. Then it became a thing that a bunch of synonyms were used, but no one ever uttered the word zombie. Now, I'm not sure, but it seems that in the WD universe the word doesn't exist.
Originally the word didn't really mean flesh-eating dead people that rise enmasse due to some virus or radioactive meteorite or anything like that until the Romero age. Before that, it referred to a person in a death like state or a reanimated dead body raised by magic or spells that was under control of a Voodoo master.
Anyone here watch that Fear The Walking Dead? I havent heard alot of buzz, and curious if its worth checking out.
Nope1172
10-24-16, 11:52 PM
In my opinion, the comics did it better... as usual.
Austruck
10-25-16, 12:25 AM
Anyone here watch that Fear The Walking Dead? I havent heard alot of buzz, and curious if its worth checking out.
I've been watching it off and on. I've seen all the episodes but sometimes they're on in the background. I thought it would tell us more about how things happened in the first place... and they sort of did. But they jumped right into sh*t going down, and now it feels more like a parallel show rather than a real prequel. After all, we started The Walking Dead with Rick having been in a coma while everything went bad, so Fear the Walking Dead really isn't much before that.
It seems to be exploring a slightly different side of group interaction and it's putting the cast into different situations, but it'll soon end up where TWD is in a lot of ways. Both shows are in fairly temperate climates. (FTWD is set in California/Mexico.) I think there are a lot of strong, interesting characters, but again ... how will this show avoid some of the same pitfalls of TWD if it lasts as long?
What would have been really different would have been to place a group someplace with a real winter. That's a whole different mind-set about survival, I would think.
Fabulous
10-25-16, 12:58 AM
In my opinion, the comics did it better... as usual.
Panel for panel, I think the show did a really good job.
Jeffrey Dean Morgan Talks Brutal 'Walking Dead' Season Premiere: 'Emotionally I Was Completely Drained'
http://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AAjobyf.img?h=680&w=1019&m=6&q=60&o=f&l=f
As hard as it was for us to watch the heartbreaking season seven premiere of The Walking Dead, Jeffrey Dean Morgan says, for him, it was even harder.
The 50-year-old actor -- who both horrified and impressed with his portrayal of the AMC drama's newest bad guy -- opened up to Interview magazine about the emotional toll Negan's fury took on him.
"Look, that whole episode was hard, and also because I did go through and smack everybody with Lucille at a certain point," he shared. "Everybody took a hit. All of that was hard. It got to the point where I didn't want to do it anymore. Emotionally I was completely drained -- all of us were, I would imagine."
Sunday's season premiere saw Negan take not one, but two victims, Abraham and Glenn, as he brutally bashed their heads in with his barbed wire-covered baseball bat, Lucille -- all in an attempt to break Andrew Lincoln's Rick.
"Andy and I just went through the ringer," Morgan explained. "It was a hard episode, and having to get there time and time again to do these horrible things… They're good people, I love them -- the whole cast -- so to keep riding them as hard as I was riding them, in-between takes it was like, god, you've got to catch your breath a little bit. It was just so ****ing heavy at all times."
"In the show that aired, there's no let up, and it was like that for 10 days for us," he added. "It wasn't just 40 minutes of it; it was 10 days of that, every day, all day."
According to Morgan, filming the episode wasn't just difficult because of the cruel way that Glenn and Abraham died. It was also hard for the cast to say goodbye to actors Steven Yeun, an original cast member, and Michael Cudlitz, who joined the series in season four.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/jeffrey-dean-morgan-talks-brutal-walking-dead-season-premiere-emotionally-i-was-completely-drained/ar-AAjo1FJ?li=BBnbfcL
Fabulous
10-25-16, 09:25 PM
The episode was very well acted. JDM and Andrew Lincoln were fantastic.
doubledenim
10-25-16, 09:42 PM
That was the hardest episode of tv I have watched. I don't know if I enjoyed it or not, but I doubt I will forget it.
doubledenim
10-26-16, 03:44 AM
And the whole Glenn thing. Everybody has wanted that dude offed forever... but when it happened. That was one of the saddest things I have ever seen.
Movie Max
10-26-16, 09:56 AM
The gurgling was a nice touch. I was not disappointed.
Austruck
10-26-16, 11:51 AM
And the whole Glenn thing. Everybody has wanted that dude offed forever... but when it happened. That was one of the saddest things I have ever seen.
Everyone has wanted him dead? Seriously? Wow, that is NOT the vibe I've ever gotten about that character.
Carl, sure. But hey... :D :D
Everyone has wanted him dead? Seriously? Wow, that is NOT the vibe I've ever gotten about that character.
Carl, sure. But hey... :D :D
Yeah Carl is now no longer annoying, yay! That hair though, he's gonna be doing shampoo commercials for Panteen.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/W_kOr9TfM6c/maxresdefault.jpg
Captain Steel
10-26-16, 12:06 PM
He grew up too fast. Between one season's finale and another's opener, he'd be another inch or two taller!
Is he still a little kid in the comics?
Austruck
10-26-16, 12:06 PM
HA HA! And with those gorgeous baby blues, he's going to start being mistaken for a girrrrrrl if he's not careful. Yeah, the hair has got to go. If you want a haircut in this world, it's not hard to get. Everybody's carrying a blade. :D
Fabulous
10-26-16, 12:39 PM
And the whole Glenn thing. Everybody has wanted that dude offed forever... but when it happened. That was one of the saddest things I have ever seen.
Everyone has wanted him dead? Seriously? Wow, that is NOT the vibe I've ever gotten about that character.
Carl, sure. But hey... :D :D
Maybe a lot of the comic readers wanted him to get his comic death. I know I did. His death in the comic is an iconic moment, and I didn't want it to go to anyone else.
Austruck
10-26-16, 01:06 PM
His death in the comic is an iconic moment, and I didn't want it to go to anyone else.
Neither did Steven Yeun, who said almost the same thing in an interview. :)
tatmmw2
10-26-16, 01:45 PM
I don't care who is going to die, I'm just glad Carol is safe :)
tatmmw2
10-26-16, 01:49 PM
OMG!!!! THOSE ****** I was just going to check the date of the series premiere, and there is a big huge spoiler in ****** wikipedia!!! I mean, come on!!! I didn't even read this thread. The worst part is that is because some jerk edited the page into that, it's not wikipedia's fault, I just hope that they write it without even knowing, DAMN IT!
Anyone knows the premiere? I'm not taking chances of googling it.
Austruck
10-26-16, 03:16 PM
The entire series? The first episode of the first season originally aired on Oct. 31, 2010.
I believe tatmmw2 lives in another country, so I assume he has a later premiere date for each season.
Austruck
10-26-16, 03:47 PM
Ohhh, that explains it. In the UK, for instance, their word for "season" is "series" ... so he'd likely be asking about the SEASON premiere when he says "series premiere." My bad! I just saw "series premiere" and assumed that's what he meant, US version. :)
Austruck
10-26-16, 03:51 PM
If he can get to the AMC website, he can watch it now, no login required:
http://www.amc.com/shows/the-walking-dead/full-episodes/season-07/episode-01/the-day-will-come-when-you-wont-be
tatmmw2
10-26-16, 03:54 PM
Nono I meant season premiere, thanks Austruck! I'm asking because I don't have TV so I look it up on the internet but I don't want to surf the web if I'm not sure. So the season 7 is already out? I thought they release a trailer
tatmmw2
10-26-16, 03:55 PM
If he can get to the AMC website, he can watch it now, no login required:
http://www.amc.com/shows/the-walking-dead/full-episodes/season-07/episode-01/the-day-will-come-when-you-wont-be
WOW, thanks a lot Aus!!
Austruck
10-26-16, 03:58 PM
Just the first episode has aired. This is on regular broadcast scheduling now (not binge-worthy stuff like on Netflix), so we'll get one episode a week, on Sunday nights, here in the US. So, only episode 1 of season 7 is out there for anybody right now.
Austruck
10-26-16, 04:08 PM
This is probably also helpful:
FOX announces 'The Walking Dead 7' Global Premiere
http://www.foxtv.co.uk/special/fox-announces-the-walking-dead-7-global-premiere
tatmmw2
10-26-16, 05:22 PM
Well this sucks, I saw the first post of the thread (I DON'T LOOK AT THE DATE "2 weeks ago") and I say, oh hey, the trailer had just premiered, I should look the actual season premiere's date. Got spoilered but WIKI****PEDIA sorry I can't stop complaining. And then 1 hour of nonsuspense Caroless episode.
I wonder why don't they talk about that not only Glenn died, he died because of Daryl, I think Maggie shouldn't give a crap about him and go kill everyone, still she has a baby it would be messed up that they end up letting her go. I wasn't expecting Glenn's death, he was previously supposed to be death so I thought it would be weird he dies XD
Also, WHERE IS CAROL?!!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvgCD7DWcAEKzjn.jpg
Also, WHERE IS CAROL?!!
http://undeadwalking.com/files/2016/04/FB_IMG_1459863987090.jpg
Also, THIS.
Austruck
10-26-16, 05:25 PM
Wow, I never noticed Carol was missing from that season 1 group photo! Even Sophia is there. I wonder if the photo was cropped or something...
tatmmw2
10-26-16, 06:22 PM
In the trailer I don't get the context of her quote: "I don't know what's going on in the most wonderful way" Maybe she got rescued by that Tiger King? That's why she is on a wheel chair like she's on a tour? Is he(that king) really with Negan or maybe someone from a different organization? It seems obvious that they are the same organization but I don't know :p why would he welcome Carol? This is all from the trailer so I'm just speculating
Austruck
10-27-16, 11:36 AM
In the trailer I don't get the context of her quote: "I don't know what's going on in the most wonderful way" Maybe she got rescued by that Tiger King? That's why she is on a wheel chair like she's on a tour? Is he(that king) really with Negan or maybe someone from a different organization? It seems obvious that they are the same organization but I don't know :p why would he welcome Carol? This is all from the trailer so I'm just speculating
I kept thinking I needed to rewatch the end of season 6 because I don't remember why/when Carol would have ended up in a wheelchair. Unless they're faking it. It's clear in the previews that Morgan hasn't told them *everything* the other group had been doing, so they're already being deceptive.
Unless I just forgot how Carol might have ended up in a wheelchair... did she get seriously hurt at the end of season 6?
tatmmw2
10-27-16, 03:45 PM
I don't remember that much either. I believe that she run into Negan's people and she clear out that she didn't want to kill them. Then she end up killing them but one was alive and shoot her I believe, then Morgan follow her when he saw the blood. So yeah she was hurt but she was saved by King Tiger's people? that's what I don't get, maybe they saw a poor defendless woman
Derek Vinyard
10-27-16, 03:52 PM
The episode was very well acted. JDM and Andrew Lincoln were fantastic.
Give Andrew Lincoln a Emmy Award dammit.
Give Andrew Lincoln a Emmy Award dammit.
Has he been nominated even? He should be as hes been the strongest acting component throughout this entire series (No offense Norman). Maybe the voters have a horror-stigma.
Derek Vinyard
10-27-16, 09:22 PM
Give Andrew Lincoln a Emmy Award dammit.
Has he been nominated even? He should be as hes been the strongest acting component throughout this entire series (No offense Norman). Maybe the voters have a horror-stigma.
Like Hollywood!
Holden posted this on FB, hilarious lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHag78wBfHI
voneil7
10-28-16, 05:23 PM
Finally got around to watching this the other night, so here goes with my humble opinion. It should be noted that I have not finished watching the episode yet, but more on that later.
This will go down for me as the episode that made me give up on the Walking Dead. Yes, I'm upset about the second death that occurred, but that is not my main reason for calling it quits.
I get that Negan is a bad ass and it should also be noted that while I have read some of the comics, I'm not nearly far enough along to have been introduced to Negan yet. I do, however, believe that the way his character is portrayed in the show is laughable. His lines are horrible and are written in such a way as to appear to make him a caricature of evil in my opinion. I didn't find him particularly compelling, in fact, it was the opposite reaction for me. I found him annoying and rather unoriginal. I found myself rolling my eyes at much of his dialogue. I give kudos to the staff for staying true to the comics (from what I've been told), but I have to say that if this is how he is written in the comics, they too would lose me at this point.
To piggyback on what Tongo said in an earlier post, it also felt to me like a total sadomasochistic watch. It may very well be the case that this leads to some bigger story line, or ends up having a point, but as a standalone episode, it comes off to me as shock for shock's sake. I understand Negan is trying to break the group's will and assert his dominance, but to me the whole thing came off as lazy. Rather than develop a more intricate story line, they just had Negan go to town on Rick's group.
As i stated earlier, I have not finished watching this episode, nor am I sure at this point that I will. While I'm extremely upset at the second death, I find myself taken out of the whole situation with Negan's character, I found myself caring less about what happens to the other characters now because I'm too distracted by Negan's over the top persona to stay in the moment with the others. Time will tell if I change my mind about all this, but it's where I'm at today.
Austruck
10-29-16, 12:24 PM
I'm finally reading the comics. I'm already curious to see how the differences play out. And whether I hate last week's episode more, or less, than I did when it first aired. :D
Glenn died in the comic, so that hasreason, but why kill Abraham? "Just cause"? Probably, but they should have kept him and got rid of someone else if they felt they needed to kill 2 to surprise the readers.
Well...
Abraham died in the comic, too. Just not that way.
Fabulous
10-29-16, 03:47 PM
...
That's who Negan is. I actually think the show toned him down a little compared to the comics. However, this is probably more to do with the fact that TV Negan isn't allowed to swear. I really don't even like some of his comic dialogue because it is way too over the top.
That's who Negan is. I actually think the show toned him down a little compared to the comics. However, this is probably more to do with the fact that TV Negan isn't allowed to swear. I really don't even like some of his comic dialogue because it is way too over the top.
Yeah if they had him quipping and sauntering even more hed look like Jim Carrey
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/66/dd/19/66dd192fc74d350661d7d6bf1ecc187a.jpg
Steels right that this way of removing Daryl gives Reedus the time to work on another project i.e. go riding and getting paid to do it i.e. paid vacation.
TWD story wise, I shudder to think what they would have them do to break Daryl. I havent read the comics but I think hes the only character that wasnt in them. So its all AMC with him.
I dont know how Abraham was supposed to die in the comics, I hope Daryl doesnt take his place.
ONLY READ THIS SPOILER IF YOU HAVENT READ THE ENTIRE COMIC BOOK SERIES. THIS IS A SERIES END SPOILER.
I heard from a friend that everybody dies at the end. So I always wondered, would Daryl be the last man standing? I actually hope they do have a happier ending than that. Maybe just Daryl and Judith making a getaway on his chopper. hell yeah
Fabulous
10-29-16, 06:45 PM
Where did your friend get that information from? The comic is still alive and might be for sometime. Robert Kirkman, the creator, says he plans for at least 300 issues. They are currently about to release issue 160.
Also, Sasha isn't in the comic either.
TheUsualSuspect
10-29-16, 10:19 PM
The comic and the show are different beings now. It has a road map to go down, but don't expect everything to be the same.
Captain Steel
10-29-16, 10:30 PM
Where did your friend get that information from? The comic is still alive and might be for sometime. Robert Kirkman, the creator, says he plans for at least 300 issues. They are currently about to release issue 160.
Also, Sasha isn't in the comic either.
That's right (as far as I know anyway - I only got up to the 7th TPB I think - somebody loaned me their collection of Trade Paper Backs which is what introduced me to the series).
I was never quite clear - in the show, Sasha was Tyrese's sister? (Girlfriend? Relative?)
But, if I recall correctly - it's been almost 10 years - Tyrese had his daughter with him in the comic (and Sasha on the show seemed to take his daughter's place)???
Is this right or am I way off base?
Where did your friend get that information from? The comic is still alive and might be for sometime. Robert Kirkman, the creator, says he plans for at least 300 issues. They are currently about to release issue 160.
Also, Sasha isn't in the comic either.
A friend told me, thats it. I thought about reading it but havent. GOOD! Im glad thats not the case. :)
I was never quite clear - in the show, Sasha was Tyrese's sister? (Girlfriend? Relative?)
But, if I recall correctly - it's been almost 10 years - Tyrese had his daughter with him in the comic (and Sasha on the show seemed to take his daughter's place)???
Is this right or am I way off base?
Sasha was his sister in the show.
I heard from that same friend that Lori & the other girl from season 1 were romantically involved with Dale. He was their sugar daddy :laugh:
Captain Steel
10-30-16, 12:32 AM
Sasha was his sister in the show.
I heard from that same friend that Lori & the other girl from season 1 were romantically involved with Dale. He was their sugar daddy :laugh:
That's correct. I do remember one of the sisters became Dale's girl, but in a zombie apocalypse does anyone really care about age differences in romances?
I will say the comic was quite unlike any I've ever read (and I was never big on b&w comics). The TPB's made me late for work because I couldn't put them down and would read half the night until I finished each one. And like the show, it's really a story about human nature with a zombie apocalypse as the setting, but you could easily see it set in any more realistic disaster.
That's correct. I do remember one of the sisters became Dale's girl, but in a zombie apocalypse does anyone really care about age differences in romances?
I will say the comic was quite unlike any I've ever read (and I was never big on b&w comics). The TPB's made me late for work because I couldn't put them down and would read half the night until I finished each one. And like the show, it's really a story about human nature with a zombie apocalypse as the setting, but you could easily see it set in any more realistic disaster.
Two of the best runs of a comic book title, as good as anything Ive read in my life, were b&w series. Elfquest which is truly a gold mine for whoever picks it up in hollywood, and Cerebus, which wouldnt transfer well to film at all.
Elfquest rereleased their 21 issue long masterpiece in a color slick page format.....and it didnt look as good. B&W is underated in comics, or maybe color overrated, idk. You would really enjoy Elfquest Steel, trust me. ;)
Fabulous
10-30-16, 06:37 PM
Tonight's episode will be Carol and Morgan centric. We'll find out what happened to them while the rest of the Survivors were kneeling before Negan.
Tonight's episode will be Carol and Morgan centric. We'll find out what happened to them while the rest of the Survivors were kneeling before Negan.
Mellow watch which was to be expected.
http://sweatpantsandcoffee.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/TWD-s7e2-The-Well-Carol-fb-600x314.jpg
Glad Ezekiel came clean to Carol his true story. Shes a great actress, and Im just counting the episodes hoping she finds out Daryls captured, then all hells gonna break loose.
I can handle the tiger. Yeah its a lil corny, but not cornier than a Jamaican chick samurai. The pigs reminded me of the movie Hannibal. I thought that Jesus character was with Ezekiels group, but no sign of him.
Austruck
11-02-16, 02:08 AM
Jesus is at the Hilltop community, which is where the rest of our group went back to after last week's devastating experience.
Jesus is at the Hilltop community, which is where the rest of our group went back to after last week's devastating experience.
Oh I thought he left there. Gotcha :up:
Austruck
11-02-16, 12:02 PM
I don't *think* he left there. He found our group and led them back there, and then a few of the group went out on their ill-fated Negan run. The rest of our group stayed at Alexandria, I think. Jesus MIGHT still be in Alexandria but I doubt it. He most likely is back at Hilltop, but I'm pretty sure he's in one of those two spots.
Fabulous
11-02-16, 02:56 PM
I thought only Maggie and Sasha continued on to the Hilltop with the bodies in the truck that Negan left them, while Rick and the rest went back to Alexandria in the RV.
Austruck
11-02-16, 03:41 PM
I'm not sure where our Negan-fated group went, but I was talking about Jesus and where he's been. :) I think you're right about the Negan group's destinations since last week's episode.
Fabulous
11-02-16, 03:53 PM
Sorry, I meant to reply to this comment:
Jesus is at the Hilltop community, which is where the rest of our group went back to after last week's devastating experience.
Austruck
11-02-16, 03:56 PM
Oh, duh! As you can see, I have no clue where they all went. LOL
I commented on the sadomasochistic turn in the show, but in fairness I dont think interest has been higher for the series, or what will happen to the characters, before Negan.
I hope they dont have a "Breaking Daryl" episode. :sick:
On a plus note, who woulda ever thought Carl could be an endearing character?! He is now though, telling his Dad to "Just get it over with." when Negan was telling him to cut off his arm. I thought poor Carl was gonna start looking like Fire Marshall Bill by the time its all over. Maybe get a hook and a patch, Pirate Carl arrr'! :D
Fabulous
11-02-16, 11:10 PM
I hope they dont have a "Breaking Daryl" episode. :sick:
Judging by the promos, it looks like that's exactly what we'll be getting this weekend.
Fabulous
11-06-16, 03:44 PM
The promo for tonight's episode:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnYA5KDStvM
Captain Steel
11-06-16, 11:11 PM
So what was on the photo that Dwight gave to Daryl?
Did they show it? I saw it in the camera shot but couldn't see what was in the picture.
Whatever it was it made Daryl puke (yes?)
I'm thinking it was a shot of either Glenn's or Abraham's smashed in head?
Austruck
11-07-16, 12:00 AM
So what was on the photo that Dwight gave to Daryl?
Did they show it? I saw it in the camera shot but couldn't see what was in the picture.
Whatever it was it made Daryl puke (yes?)
I'm thinking it was a shot of either Glenn's or Abraham's smashed in head?
On Talking Dead afterwards, they confirmed it was a picture of dead Glenn. Yuck.
Im just starting episode 3 and have to comment immediately how the opening is like an unexpected black comedy bit "Life with the Saviors" as they beat on each other to the peppy music playing, watching the "Who's The Boss" episodes was a nice touch too. ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoQ4GidQP-k
Derek Vinyard
11-07-16, 01:25 AM
that was a badass episode. One of my fav.
Finished it. It was ok. Wish theyd have Morgan tone down the constant cockiness of Negan. Hes probably playing it legit and I have to keep in mind this is from a comic book.
Heres my question, what were those zombies doing in that fenced in area, and what were they doing in there to them?
Fabulous
11-07-16, 01:50 AM
Promo for next Sunday's episode, which will be 90 minutes long:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wjsetW_aiM
Fabulous
11-07-16, 01:53 AM
Here's a sneak peek of 704:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFA8Xytdlu4
http://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=27729&d=1478498321
Fabulous
11-07-16, 02:01 AM
So happy his "Little pig, little pig. Let me in." line made it to the show. I'm also hoping that another of his famous lines is said based on one of Rick's reactions in the promo.
Captain Steel
11-07-16, 02:05 AM
Finished it. It was ok. Wish theyd have Morgan tone down the constant cockiness of Negan. Hes probably playing it legit and I have to keep in mind this is from a comic book.
Heres my question, what were those zombies doing in that fenced in area, and what were they doing in there to them?
I was wondering the same thing. Why was one on a spike? Negan said something to Daryl about one of his choices being dead and "working" for him. So apparently the zombies in the fence had some purpose, but what their handlers were doing with them seems a mystery.
Fabulous
11-07-16, 02:08 AM
At first I thought it was some sort of protective perimeter, but that wasn't made clear.
Captain Steel
11-07-16, 02:16 AM
At first I thought it was some sort of protective perimeter, but that wasn't made clear.
Apparently the bucket on their heads was a safer way of transporting them - kind of like the way game wardens cover an alligator's eyes when moving them. Plus the bucket would prevent bites.
Austruck
11-07-16, 12:14 PM
Tongo, I cannot give rep for that post with "Easy Street" playing. I'd finally gotten that song out of my head... and then stupidly clicked on that post above, and now it's back. Gahh...
:D
Austruck
11-07-16, 12:16 PM
My guess is that "working for Negan" like that means he'll zombify you and put you out there for others to see. He's making an example of the folks who don't cooperate.
One small step above them are the folks with the fancy sweatsuits on, complete with spray-painted letters on them. They still have to make it into Negan's good graces, so they get all the sh*t jobs.
Another clip of the song, dont listen Austruck :laugh:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deUMaYGnnVE
Austruck
11-07-16, 10:10 PM
Tongo, that is just all kinds of wrong. (Yes, I clicked.)
christine
11-08-16, 01:52 PM
Of course I clicked too...
I get a little obsessed with where baby Judith is. I've spent today (internetless) trying to remember. She's with Father Gabriel in Alexandria right? This kid does my head in. Never needs changing, never cries, always disappears when it's inconvenient for the plot.
Austruck
11-08-16, 02:26 PM
Of course I clicked too...
I get a little obsessed with where baby Judith is. I've spent today (internetless) trying to remember. She's with Father Gabriel in Alexandria right? This kid does my head in. Never needs changing, never cries, always disappears when it's inconvenient for the plot.
Ha! Yeah, Alexandria with Gabriel and a few others of our group. I assume that means Carl and Rick will go back there, if only to retrieve her.
I think the few times we've seen her, I've detected a disposable diaper on her. Really? So they're still finding the RIGHT size disposables for her? Wow. I'd have thought that if ever there was a time to go with the cloth diaper phenom, it would be during the apocalypse. LOL
Captain Steel
11-08-16, 02:34 PM
Ha! Yeah, Alexandria with Gabriel and a few others of our group. I assume that means Carl and Rick will go back there, if only to retrieve her.
I think the few times we've seen her, I've detected a disposable diaper on her. Really? So they're still finding the RIGHT size disposables for her? Wow. I'd have thought that if ever there was a time to go with the cloth diaper phenom, it would be during the apocalypse. LOL
Are cloth diapers easy to find? I mean, unless you make them out of rags & used clothes.
Seems they'd be able to find loads of disposable diapers whenever they loot a store - depending on how many others with babies got there first.
Austruck
11-08-16, 02:42 PM
Oh heck, yeah. They still sell them in any good baby store or any good department store with a baby section. Most people use them as "spit up" cloths or burping cloths (to drape on your shoulder when you hold or burp a baby), but their original intent is for use as diapers. (I used cloth diapers with little Yoda many years ago.) :)
They usually come in packages of a dozen, so if they'd found even two packages and rewashed them, they'd have enough.
Captain Steel
11-08-16, 02:46 PM
Oh heck, yeah. They still sell them in any good baby store or any good department store with a baby section. Most people use them as "spit up" cloths or burping cloths (to drape on your shoulder when you hold or burp a baby), but their original intent is for use as diapers. (I used cloth diapers with little Yoda many years ago.) :)
They usually come in packages of a dozen, so if they'd found even two packages and rewashed them, they'd have enough.
Come to think of it, diapers (of any kind) in an apocalypse would probably be in high demand to double as wound care & medical dressings (not to mention stuffing a bunch of the padded kinds into garbage bags to make pillows and bedding).
P.S. You're Yoda's father? ... or mother? :eek:
doubledenim
11-08-16, 02:54 PM
Oh heck, yeah. They still sell them in any good baby store or any good department store with a baby section. Most people use them as "spit up" cloths or burping cloths (to drape on your shoulder when you hold or burp a baby), but their original intent is for use as diapers. (I used cloth diapers with little Yoda many years ago.) :)
They usually come in packages of a dozen, so if they'd found even two packages and rewashed them, they'd have enough.
http://i.imgur.com/HP89r8q.png
https://media.tenor.co/images/f81f2978a1a8c5f14abd11036ca92171/raw (https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&ved=0ahUKEwjbndf56ZnQAhXGPiYKHYztCd0QjRwIBw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tenor.co%2Fsearch%2Faww-gifs&psig=AFQjCNFAIv4K2tU0u2j2-GcMSdsLlq7aDg&ust=1478717428924163)
Austruck
11-09-16, 02:09 PM
P.S. You're Yoda's father? ... or mother? :eek:
I'm his mommy. :)
http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd446/Austruck/Chris-2C.jpg
http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd446/Austruck/Chris-Me-1.jpg
Austruck
11-09-16, 02:10 PM
Oh, and yes, Yoda is SO OLD NOW that disposable diapers were really new (and terrible) when he was a baby. :)
Austruck
11-09-16, 02:58 PM
Tongo thinks I should post a more recent picture of "skinny Yoda," so here's one from last summer at one of his baseball games...
http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd446/Austruck/11885312_10153714986052214_6658284231877300986_n_zps524j22sg.jpg
Austruck
11-09-16, 02:59 PM
Captain Steel, I think you're right that cloth diapers could have had many uses in this world, so they might therefore be hard to find. But, unlike disposables, you'd only have to find them ONCE. :)
I had deleted the post, didnt want to come off as "being fresh" ;)
Austruck
11-09-16, 03:11 PM
I had deleted the post, didnt want to come off as "being fresh" ;)
Nah! Actually, I thought maybe Yoda himself would say something. He's been at his new weight for well over a year now and looks amazing. (Not that he didn't look amazing before, but he feels great and is healthier, etc. He's very inspiring.) So, I was already wondering if I should have posted a better picture ... but I don't have any mom-Yoda pictures with the "new and improved" Yoda.
Anyway... yes, he got stuck with cloth diapers and survived his infancy just fine, although there is a very funny story about the time he found one soaking in the toilet not long after he learned to walk...
earlsmoviepicks
11-10-16, 12:12 PM
Nah! Actually, I thought maybe Yoda himself would say something. He's been at his new weight for well over a year now and looks amazing. (Not that he didn't look amazing before, but he feels great and is healthier, etc. He's very inspiring.) So, I was already wondering if I should have posted a better picture ... but I don't have any mom-Yoda pictures with the "new and improved" Yoda.
Anyway... yes, he got stuck with cloth diapers and survived his infancy just fine, although there is a very funny story about the time he found one soaking in the toilet not long after he learned to walk...
You are in the unique position to blackmail Yoda whenever you please!
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG0wQRsXLi4
Captain Steel
11-13-16, 09:46 PM
I miss Dave's "Li'l John".
"What? What? What? What? Yeeeesss!"
Fabulous
11-14-16, 01:43 AM
Promo for the next episode:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izbKNH47Xl0
TheUsualSuspect
11-14-16, 08:48 AM
I am getting frustratingly annoyed with the show now. I hope this bending over backwards for Neegan and his bat don't take up the whole season. I cannot believe they gave up their weapons. How hard is it to shoot the guy immediately, then have his goons scatter around like idiots.
I thought maybe they had guns in the grave, but who knows. Doesn't seem like it. Rick needs his balls back. Unite the communities against him and move on.
Uggh......
Fabulous
11-14-16, 12:25 PM
I am getting frustratingly annoyed with the show now. I hope this bending over backwards for Neegan and his bat don't take up the whole season. I cannot believe they gave up their weapons. How hard is it to shoot the guy immediately, then have his goons scatter around like idiots.
I thought maybe they had guns in the grave, but who knows. Doesn't seem like it. Rick needs his balls back. Unite the communities against him and move on.
Uggh......
Then you don't have a show.
Fabulous
11-15-16, 02:52 PM
Sneak peek of the next episode:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctokoJ8OGbA
Captain Steel
11-15-16, 03:00 PM
I thought they were going to take Michonne's sword. (Why'd they let her keep it?)
Everyone was waiting for Rick to wail on Negan with the bat when he had the chance - of course that probably would've resulted in Negan's men opening fire on everyone in Alexandria. But - as with all dictator regimes - eventually Rick's people will find dissenters who also want Negan taken out.
Captain Steel
11-15-16, 03:14 PM
http://cbr1.imgix.net/wp-content/uploads/spinoff/2016/08/trump-social.jpg?auto=format&lossless=1&q=40&w=813&h=428&fit=crop
gandalf26
11-15-16, 07:50 PM
I personally feel this has been quite a strong opening to the season, enjoyed every episode.
Rick can't unite groups that he is unaware of to fight the saviours, ie the kingdom and whoever else. The previous episode gave us a strong indication that Negans downfall will come from within.
Why oh why would they keep a written inventory of their armoury, doh!! Just bury a small Arsenal somewhere for gods sake.
Think enough time has past to post this. SPOILERS for the season 7 season premiere so if youre not up to season 7, dont watch this.
If you have Idk, this struck me funny. :laugh:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VIfqd56WQc
Fabulous
11-18-16, 01:48 PM
I love watching reaction videos like that.
I love watching reaction videos like that.
I found one with all of them. I watched a handful and the incidents that got the big reactions was when Daryl punches Negan, everyone then thinks Daryls gonna die! Of course when Glenn suddenly gets it is the biggest reaction.
Though the episode watches like a gorier version of The Hitcher, they did do a masterful directing job on it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHSL84CjNrA
AdamUpBxtch
11-19-16, 09:51 PM
They've been hinting at
Rick sparing Negan after defeating him in AOW a lot lately. Morgan building the cell, Negan telling Rick he's gonna leave him alive for a few years to let him stew on it.
I'm gonna be curious of viewers who haven't read the comics reaction to this, because if they want Negan to be different from the rest of the villains in the series than they gotta stay on the path of the comics.
I am getting frustratingly annoyed with the show now. I hope this bending over backwards for Neegan and his bat don't take up the whole season. I cannot believe they gave up their weapons. How hard is it to shoot the guy immediately, then have his goons scatter around like idiots.
I thought maybe they had guns in the grave, but who knows. Doesn't seem like it. Rick needs his balls back. Unite the communities against him and move on.
Uggh......
One reason....man power. This is how Negan and the Saviors have survived as long as they have. Negan has over 100 men, Without Negan running the Saviors Alexandria and other communities would be worse off. Negan represents "order" and without him the Saviors would just become a ruthless unstoppable group of pillagers. Simon would most likely take over since he's second in command and unless he has similar views to Negan (anti-rape, etc) things will become a lot worse for the Survivors. Just because Negan dies does not mean the Saviors suddenly fall apart and Rick's group automatically wins. If they killed Negan in Episode 4, the rest of the saviors that came with Negan still outnumbers Alexandria's people and would just demolish Alexandria, especially since Negan came earlier than expected and Rick's group wouldn't of been ready to retaliate even if they were planning to.
Watching last nights episode now, 10 min in and Michonne laid a mighty fine kiss on Rick. ;) Mighty fine!
Captain Steel
11-21-16, 11:56 PM
Watching last nights episode now, 10 min in and Michonne laid a mighty fine kiss on Rick. ;) Mighty fine!
Better than Uhura's kiss on Kirk... but then Uhura was being forced to kiss the white man by the Malcosians (or some such)! ;)
Fabulous
11-22-16, 12:02 AM
Sneak Peek of the next episode:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_BQth5XrWo
Oh heres another one!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pau11a_OrIg
Captain Steel
11-27-16, 11:24 PM
My guess is the show is going the Flash Gordon route:
Negan is Ming the Merciless and Rick will probably be Flash - by bringing all the tribes of "Mongo" together.
You've got the Hilltop, King Ezekiel's Renaissance tribe, and now the tribe of hidden Amazons. They'll all distrust each other, but just like Flash Gordon, Rick will find a way to bring them all together and unite them to combat Ming... uh, Negan.
TheUsualSuspect
11-27-16, 11:48 PM
They've been hinting at
Rick sparing Negan after defeating him in AOW a lot lately. Morgan building the cell, Negan telling Rick he's gonna leave him alive for a few years to let him stew on it.
I'm gonna be curious of viewers who haven't read the comics reaction to this, because if they want Negan to be different from the rest of the villains in the series than they gotta stay on the path of the comics.
I am getting frustratingly annoyed with the show now. I hope this bending over backwards for Neegan and his bat don't take up the whole season. I cannot believe they gave up their weapons. How hard is it to shoot the guy immediately, then have his goons scatter around like idiots.
I thought maybe they had guns in the grave, but who knows. Doesn't seem like it. Rick needs his balls back. Unite the communities against him and move on.
Uggh......
One reason....man power. This is how Negan and the Saviors have survived as long as they have. Negan has over 100 men, Without Negan running the Saviors Alexandria and other communities would be worse off. Negan represents "order" and without him the Saviors would just become a ruthless unstoppable group of pillagers. Simon would most likely take over since he's second in command and unless he has similar views to Negan (anti-rape, etc) things will become a lot worse for the Survivors. Just because Negan dies does not mean the Saviors suddenly fall apart and Rick's group automatically wins. If they killed Negan in Episode 4, the rest of the saviors that came with Negan still outnumbers Alexandria's people and would just demolish Alexandria, especially since Negan came earlier than expected and Rick's group wouldn't of been ready to retaliate even if they were planning to.
Disagree. They had the wall to protect them. Load up and pick them off. Numbers in war does not mean victory. Negan bringing order is bogus. Most people will just split off or maybe follow Rick.
The writers just want to make Negan this God like character to force feed us drama. None of it is believable.
Austruck
12-05-16, 12:36 PM
Another episode down. Didn't realize this one was 90 minutes. Didn't also realize how little I care about this season. Any time they bring in Negan, it seems like they launch into overkill (no pun intended) with ramping up the tension as he walks around making catty remarks and swinging Lucille around. Those scenes drag on way too long. And last night they were almost the whole episode with Carl. And it felt more annoying than tense.
Sorry, AMC, you're letting this show slip into writer-chaos and I don't even care. I'm much more interested in The Kingdom and Hilltop and even Alexandria -- to see how these spots are handling their burdens, handling the fallout of what happened, etc.
Midseason finale next week. And no more new episodes of Westworld to fall back on. (sigh)
I'm about a half-episode behind. I just catch up when I have some spare time, or want to watch a little something before going to bed. That's how relatively uninterested I am.
I will say that I think Morgan is killing it at as Negan. I was psyched when I heard the casting news, and he hasn't disappointed. He's inherently interesting any time he's on screen, and if you have to do the "new Big Bad tormenting our heroes" thing, he's at least a nice little twist on it, in that he has a plausible ideology driving it all. I think the comic character, however, leaned more towards the "necessary evils" side, as opposed to the TV version, where he makes his case well enough but it's more clearly a rationalization for whatever he wants to do (though I may be misremembering the slant in the comics a bit).
Anyway, Negan's the only thing that's keeping me watching. That, and wanting to see if they end up doing something the comics did shortly after that storyline, though I imagine they're going to draw this stuff out as much as possible. Still might drop it at any point, particularly if I find another show or two I like.
Austruck
12-05-16, 12:45 PM
Oh, don't get me wrong. I totally agree that JDMorgan makes it worthwhile all on his own. He's a total hoot to watch. But I think their editing needs a little work because the situation with Carl (you'll see it when you catch up) just dragged on and on. You're right in saying that sometimes the only thing that keeps me watching, too, is Morgan because he's that engaging.
But yes, I've had other things to watch (Westworld) until now. But essentially it's gotten to a point where I like Talking Dead more than The Walking Dead. I think having the main group THIS split up and only visiting each person or smaller group in dribs and drabs is making the show feel completely disjointed this season. And not even JDMorgan's acting will be able to keep it all together very much longer.
OK Im only 7 minutes into this weeks episode but I gotta say
What in the hell is Carl thinking?! Hes in the back of the truck, alone with an M-16 right in Savior headquarters, surrounded for certain. Im sure this will be answered shortly, but I thought he evolved from the "stay inside Carl!" phase, and didnt do compulsive kid stuff anymore?! He's got nine lives.
WTH is with Michonne dragging off some walker leaving her sword?! I never can remember how to spell her name. The actress has lost weight and is in great shape compared to any other time shes been on the show, definitely has been wworking out.
Captain Steel
12-05-16, 06:12 PM
Wouldn't they have run out of gas by now?
Yes, I understand they've mastered siphoning, but no new gas is being produced, there are no working gas pumps, and gasoline actually evaporates quite rapidly. It's supposed to be what, 6 or 7 years into the apocalypse, and they are in Georgia (or thereabouts) in the heat. Even gas inside tanks evaporates to a certain extent especially when there is no maintenance: seals & caps weaken, fumes escape. Plus, cars that aren't run for six or seven years sometimes never run again.
Yet, on the show, someone's always driving an automobile that is apparently full of gas.
This goes along with my theory that any "walkers" that are trapped, unable to eat or drink, that are submerged, locked up, etc. would have had the soft tissues of their brains completely rot away by now (and we all know that the only way to "kill" them is to destroy their brains) - so any walkers not actively eating, drinking or breathing would be fertilizer because there would no longer be any brain inside their skull.
Fabulous
12-05-16, 06:28 PM
Wouldn't they have run out of gas by now?
Yes, I understand they've mastered siphoning, but no new gas is being produced, there are no working gas pumps, and gasoline actually evaporates quite rapidly. It's supposed to be what, 6 or 7 years into the apocalypse, and they are in Georgia (or thereabouts) in the heat. Even gas inside tanks evaporates to a certain extent especially when there is no maintenance: seals & caps weaken, fumes escape. Plus, cars that aren't run for six or seven years sometimes never run again.
They are actually outside of Washington now and it's been around 2 years into the apocalypse.
Captain Steel
12-05-16, 07:36 PM
They are actually outside of Washington now and it's been around 2 years into the apocalypse.
In that case, Carl has some kind of hormone problem! ;)
Got to about the halfway point and Negan and Carl are talking at the coffee table, and reralize this has become a twisted ass version of a zombie apocalypse flavored A Bronx Tale.
"The door trick Carl! If she doesn't reach over and lift up that button so that you can get in, that means she's a selfish broad and all you're seeing is the tip of the iceberg. You dump her and you dump her fast."
Damn, what an episode. Ok heres my Negan beef -
I wish the chronological order of events would have been Negan first, and then the group met The Governor second, it would make more sense. After everything they went thru with the Governor, and surrounding, they would be ridiculously hardened to the point of nobody being able to act so blase and abusive so openly, bat test or not. Now if they were fresh into the apocalypse, and Negan came into their lives I could understand the cowering then. Imo its a story flaw Ill just have to forgive.
doubledenim
12-05-16, 09:43 PM
1. The 90 min episodes are a sham. Instead of a regular 10 min stretch(?), they seem to be doing 5 mins., then another commercial.
2. Two things that test my liberal abilities to suspend belief.
-The cars and maintenance and guzzoline. I would actually believe running diesels off...well, you can run diesels off a lot of stuff.
-The hygiene and haircuts.
3. For whatever reason, I watch this over Westworld (3-4 eps. left) probably bc I know I won't have to pay attention to TWD.
Austruck
12-05-16, 11:05 PM
THANK YOU on noticing the gasoline and other issues. I'm amazed they're still finding canned goods and cigars and liquor and beer. I mean, seriously. Even if it's only two years and not six or seven, that stuff would be long gone. It'd be the first stuff to disappear. Plus, you know, unlimited ammo. It's like a video game inventory stash in this show!
Austruck
12-05-16, 11:09 PM
Here's another issue I haven't seen addressed. (If it's addressed in the comics, just make a general reference but not a spoiler. I'm still wading through the comics slowly.)
If a woman is pregnant and the baby dies in utero... wouldn't that baby become a walker? If so, and if it is far enough along in the pregnancy, could the walker baby hurt the mother from the inside? (No teeth, but it could tear at her and/or still bite down and do damage.)
It's this awful thought I keep having: Why would anyone intentionally get pregnant ever again? And don't get me started on whether or not two old or sickly people should be sleeping in the same room. If one of them dies overnight, there goes the other one!
Fabulous
12-06-16, 12:16 AM
Here's another issue I haven't seen addressed. (If it's addressed in the comics, just make a general reference but not a spoiler. I'm still wading through the comics slowly.)
If a woman is pregnant and the baby dies in utero... wouldn't that baby become a walker? If so, and if it is far enough along in the pregnancy, could the walker baby hurt the mother from the inside? (No teeth, but it could tear at her and/or still bite down and do damage.)
It's this awful thought I keep having: Why would anyone intentionally get pregnant ever again? And don't get me started on whether or not to old or sickly people should be sleeping in the same room. If one of them dies overnight, there goes the other one!
As far as I'm aware, this scenario isn't addressed.
Oh, and hats-off to Father Gabriel finally having a scene where I thought he was cool. :laugh:
http://www.mymbuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/12/The-Walking-Dead-7.07-Sing-Me-A-Song-Gabriel-and-Spencer.png
earlsmoviepicks
12-07-16, 02:15 PM
Negan isn't really as bad as all that. If he was, he would put Daryl in a red and white checkered waitress dress and make him serve dinner.
Austruck
12-07-16, 02:33 PM
Negan isn't really as bad as all that. If he was, he would put Daryl in a red and white checkered waitress dress and make him serve dinner.
:rotfl::rotfl:
Captain Steel
12-11-16, 11:30 PM
Told ya they're going the Flash Gordon route.
King Ezekiel is definitely Prince Vultan! ;)
Fabulous
12-11-16, 11:41 PM
I thought that was a solid end to the first half of S7.
Captain Steel
12-12-16, 12:34 AM
I thought that was a solid end to the first half of S7.
The nice thing was they tried to cover everybody's situation a little bit.
I kept thinking how are they going to fight the saviors. To combat overwhelming numbers you basically have to use hit and run guerrilla tactics - but that means you can't have a base that your enemy knows about, you have to live in hiding (kind of like the Wolverines in Red Dawn).
They could also use terrorist tactics - but again that means maintaining anonymity and having no place or vulnerable people that revenge could be carried out against without everyone adopting the suicide mentality. Terrorist tactics also involve the highly effective strategy of infiltration and striking from within - which would probably be very difficult with Negan's troops.
The "fortress" tactic (just shooting any of Negan's people as they arrive from the parapets) wouldn't work because the "good guys" don't have the fire power to keep unrelenting, heavily armed numbers from blasting their way inside.
It looks like they'll try the Flash Gordon approach - get enough groups in an alliance to have competitive numbers, and then hope that there are factions within Negan's troops who are sick of his tyranny and will turn on him when opposition forces begin to make headway.
gandalf26
12-12-16, 07:27 AM
The nice thing was they tried to cover everybody's situation a little bit.
I kept thinking how are they going to fight the saviors. To combat overwhelming numbers you basically have to use hit and run guerrilla tactics - but that means you can't have a base that your enemy knows about, you have to live in hiding (kind of like the Wolverines in Red Dawn).
They could also use terrorist tactics - but again that means maintaining anonymity and having no place or vulnerable people that revenge could be carried out against without everyone adopting the suicide mentality. Terrorist tactics also involve the highly effective strategy of infiltration and striking from within - which would probably be very difficult with Negan's troops.
The "fortress" tactic (just shooting any of Negan's people as they arrive from the parapets) wouldn't work because the "good guys" don't have the fire power to keep unrelenting, heavily armed numbers from blasting their way inside.
It looks like they'll try the Flash Gordon approach - get enough groups in an alliance to have competitive numbers, and then hope that there are factions within Negan's troops who are sick of his tyranny and will turn on him when opposition forces begin to make headway.
That's what is looking like, the numbers aren't so overwhelming if you get Hilltop, Alexandria, Kingdom and the Beach/Island women all together in an army. Its gonna be maybe 200-300 ish (good guys) vs something like 500-1000. Not terrible odds. Especially if you surprise attack and maybe take out all the groups that are out collecting tribute.
Eventually once the Saviours know they are in a war you have the problem of a heavily armed fortress with overwhelming numbers.
My guess in Negan gets taken out from within by burned face guy (forget his name), Negans army becomes disenchanted after suffering losses in the war and living in fear of a brutal dictator. This would be a problem however as the way these things go this has to end up in a Rick vs Negan showdown, maybe Rick will taunt Negan like Jon Snow/Ramsey Bolton, come face me alone etc no need for everyone to die.
https://twitter.com/JoshKurp/status/808147611735691266
I think at this point most of us could do a pretty good Negan. Watch, you'll even read this in his voice and cadence:
"Hot damn son! Look at you bleed! You're making a huge mess."
Austruck
12-12-16, 12:11 PM
https://twitter.com/JoshKurp/status/808147611735691266
I think at this point most of us could do a pretty good Negan. Watch, you'll even read this in his voice and cadence:
"Hot damn son! Look at you bleed! You're making a huge mess."
That's hilarious!
Although I appreciated the (finally) upbeat note on which they ended this midseason finale, I also (again) sat there thinking the Negan tension that fills the screen whenever he's walking around about to off someone is already feeling a tad annoying to me. It feels like base manipulation now, rather than true tension. Since it's the *same* tension every time it happens, and since they drag it out for, like, half an episode each time, it feels like it's now their default for ramping up the tension in any given scene: just toss Negan in walking around with Lucille, doing his shtick while picking out the next victim, then watch everyone around him cower while they wait for him to act.
I'm almost relieved that we get a break from that same old, same old for a few months. Maybe it'll seem like fresh, interesting tension once a few months go by.
Can you tell this wasn't my favorite half-season? :)
Started last nights episode of Walking Dead, will talk about it a little as Im watching it. If you dont want to learn what happened in the midseason finale please dont read my posts as theyre spoilers. :)
Scenes leading up to the credits - Poor Carl. He goes all Rambo and dares to attack the Saviors all on his own, guns down 2, and less than 12 hours later hes serving Neegan dinner. Not the cool outcome he envisioned.
Rick & Aaron are doing what would be considered a good game level for an RPG, how to get to the houseboat in a zombie-boobie trapped lake?
When you use zombies for boobie traps, would that be considered a Zomboobie?
17min in
That was a great scene with Rick & Aaron. I thought Aaron was a goner. There definitely is a respawn feature in this world when it comes to supplies. ;)
The teenage girlfriend of Carls is annoying, oh shes awful! Could you imagine how annoying her and Carls kid would be?
Father Gabriel.....I guess the writer decided to do a 180 with his character as this is the second episode in a row hes done something solid.
Wont be able to finish posting and watching, sorry for the tease. Looks like a good episode though.
Captain Steel
12-13-16, 02:43 AM
The teenage girlfriend of Carls is annoying, oh shes awful! Could you imagine how annoying her and Carls kid would be?
Enid is hot! ;)
christine
12-13-16, 02:50 PM
Although I appreciated the (finally) upbeat note on which they ended this midseason finale, I also (again) sat there thinking the Negan tension that fills the screen whenever he's walking around about to off someone is already feeling a tad annoying to me. It feels like base manipulation now, rather than true tension. Since it's the *same* tension every time it happens, and since they drag it out for, like, half an episode each time, it feels like it's now their default for ramping up the tension in any given scene: just toss Negan in walking around with Lucille, doing his shtick while picking out the next victim, then watch everyone around him cower while they wait for him to act.
I'm almost relieved that we get a break from that same old, same old for a few months. Maybe it'll seem like fresh, interesting tension once a few months go by.
Can you tell this wasn't my favorite half-season? :)
Definately not my favourite either (or even favorite ;)) . Negan's showboating posturing is doing my head in. Good for Rosita having a go. I don't think there's many within the Saviours who wouldn't turn against Negan given the chance to live without him, it's just getting rid of his coterie of armed guards.
doubledenim
12-14-16, 02:56 AM
I like JDM, but Neeeeeeeeeeeegan's act is wearing thin. Speaking of. Please no more side shots of him, only frontal. He looks like a sick old with those pants and arms.
This is much better.
https://68.media.tumblr.com/f22afe0d10b2a61372c92c0a834e0b97/tumblr_inline_ohr2fqp1Sq1t25vzq_500.gif
On second thought, Neeeeeeeeeegan must have super-powers. How else did he keep Lucille from being stuck in his forehead after she ate that bullet?
I have mixed emotions about this season, great acting, great editing, and great effects - but not happy with the script for the most part.
It would make for a great comic though ;).
TheUsualSuspect
12-18-16, 10:09 PM
Finally happy that they are going to do something. I love JDM and his acting is pretty good so far, I just hate how everyone is cowering to Negan. It's aggravating.
I think they are already setting up the jail cell for him to be thrown into when Rick gets the upper hand.
Not a big fan of this season, Abraham was my boy!!!!!
Since the show is on break I figured - why not?
Who do you think is the sexiest Actor/character in the series.
Sexy for me is definitely more than looks, and although I think she is very pretty it is her personality and quirkiness that I love about:
Alanna Masterson
http://68.media.tumblr.com/93b225f9a02d7334b9ff13eb2b2c801c/tumblr_ohct3aCklU1vh0gnro2_r3_500.gif
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/89/db/82/89db82b1bf0285af2e9f3b5509887bf3.jpg
I also love Carol quite a bit, she is definitely a close second.
Captain Steel
12-20-16, 11:52 PM
Since the show is on break I figured - why not?
Who do you think is the sexiest Actor/character in the series.
I'm probably on a huge bandwagon, but Maggie (Lauren Cohan) is just spectacular.
http://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/20151130/rs_634x855-151230064710-634.Lauren-Cohan-FB-123015.jpg
TheUsualSuspect
12-21-16, 08:00 AM
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/43/35/79/433579bde79876d0ffad9134cb9a33b5.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/7f/77/e8/7f77e8c94a1f7ce05546d9d8d9a1dcec.jpg
These are my two favourite.
doubledenim
12-23-16, 10:49 AM
Did any of the the Masterson offspring not make it to showbiz?
This was cool.....no its not "Easy Street" ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kBjoR3tjv8
https://scontent.ftpa1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15492380_1328770223863470_4762059608157115565_n.jpg?oh=689e69ce28754dbcad7349b100500426&oe=58DB6333
Austruck
12-31-16, 06:50 PM
Hey... is Eric still around (Aaron's significant other)? I'm watching a TWD marathon on AMC and it's currently the episode where Eric is introduced and I realized I have no idea if he's still around. I assume he's still hanging around Alexandria but just isn't doing anything significant. :)
Captain Steel
12-31-16, 07:10 PM
Hey... is Eric still around (Aaron's significant other)? I'm watching a TWD marathon on AMC and it's currently the episode where Eric is introduced and I realized I have no idea if he's still around. I assume he's still hanging around Alexandria but just isn't doing anything significant. :)
I also noticed they never really followed up on this relationship (I thought Eric had died at some point because it seemed like we never saw him).
But (and I'm not quite sure about this) in a recent episode, I think when Negan is trying to decide who to kill next, he eyes Eric and Aaron is quick to jump to his side in despair at the idea that they might kill Eric. I think it was a short shot (while the guys were standing among a group of Alexandrians). This may have been right before the Saviors killed the heavy girl with the glasses.
Fabulous
12-31-16, 11:42 PM
Captain Steel is correct.
Austruck
12-31-16, 11:51 PM
Ah yes, that sounds familiar now. Weren't they standing on a porch watching the goings-on? Thanks for the reminder.
TheUsualSuspect
01-02-17, 11:18 AM
On the street watching the pool game.
Austruck
01-02-17, 01:04 PM
Actually, I was watching the end of the TWD marathon yesterday and saw the episode where Rick gets folks to meet in the church building in Alexandria and tells them Negan is in charge now. Eric and Aaron are sitting in one of the pews together and Eric stands up and asks a question of Rick. Somehow I'd forgotten that part of that episode, which comes before the "on the street" scene.
He's still around, apparently. And although we haven't seen much of his skills, the fact that he used to go out scouting for new people to bring into Alexandria must mean he knows enough about the outside world to get along and survive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKctbqdtJJY
Captain Steel
01-08-17, 10:33 PM
1:25 = Norman Reedus totally stoned! (No wonder his eyes look like that!)
Fan made video thats not bad at all, gets your juices flowing for next month.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1I4aQxCk8Q
Movie Max
02-15-17, 09:12 AM
Did TWD just have its first gay lovers' quarrel over Rick?;D
Austruck
02-15-17, 11:25 AM
Did TWD just have its first gay lovers' quarrel over Rick?;D
:D :D :D
I think you're right!
:busey:
sEASON 7 IS TURNING INTO A DRAWN OUT SOAP OPERA AGAIN. tHEY STARTED IT OFF VISCIOUSLY. cAPS. Sorry. Maybe within 4-5 episodes someone will start heading towards Negan..instead of talking about it while eating bris:Dquit.
Austruck
03-07-17, 01:15 PM
I think they're just letting everybody calm down with a lot of character-driven episodes. :)
I agree. When I binge watch it's different. I've been paying 3 bucks a pop on Amazon streaming so I guess I'm getting a little restless.;)
vBulletin® v3.8.0, Copyright ©2000-2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.