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the samoan lawyer

01-15-15, 09:19 AM

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The Haunting (1963)

More than just a haunted house movie, The Haunting is a genuinely creepy and shocking psychological horror. From the uneven dimensions of the house to the fantastically menacing spiral staircase, this was a really well-executed and atmospheric horror story. I loved the feeling of the presence throughout the house, which came from superb performances from all the cast. Now, I wouldn't really label this a ghost story however it's probably not too far off, but for me this sits up with some of the best horror films of it's kind, in particular The Innocents, which would work brilliantly as a double feature. How I would of loved to have watched this in the cinema when it first came out.

Intelligent, effective and downright chilling........ an absolute masterpiece!

rating_4_5+

MovieMeditation

01-15-15, 11:18 AM

Horror Hall of Fame
POSSESSION
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— 1981 —

I knew very little about this film going in, and that is almost always a great thing. When you can simply sit down and immerse yourself into something that has nothing but your interest, and you are without any form knowledge, experience or anything of that matter. I had barely read the plot synopsis, so I was actually pretty excited. Unfortunately it didn't turn out at all like my kind of movie...

So, basically we are just thrown into the midst of things without much knowledge of who the characters are and what is going to happen, and I liked that. The way it was set up and the way the first half hour of the movie moved forward, almost felt like Rosemary's Baby, which of course was a great plus! I love horror movies that are not necessarily full-blown genre flicks, but instead seamlessly cross between other genres. Especially drama works great, as you are sometimes left in the dark to what is happening, which is also what this movie used, and I liked that. But as the film progressed, it just became worse and worse to me. It went from feeling mostly professionally made and well acted, to some extremely weird and campy indie feature or something. What the hell was that about?

The story gets quite messy and incoherent, and you are never really told much about anything. And it doesn't help much either, when it all just gets weirder and more f*cked up as time goes by. My most hated aspect was when the characters in the film was "possessed" or looked like being possessed. Waving their hands around the air and acting like they tried to get accepted into the amateur play in middle school. Especially when the female lead was in the tunnels of the subway station, and out of nowhere, began to do this impression of a crack head doing heavy-metal head banging to the sound of absolute silence. That is, forgetting about the annoying screams she continues to do throughout the scene. That scene just went on forever, and suddenly I just broke out into laughter and couldn't believe what was happening. The character was just rolling around the floor and tossing herself around and up the walls while screaming and shouting like a mad person! I mean, what am I supposed to feel here, exactly?

And from there on, it even gets weirder than that; tons of unexplained things happening, people bleeding, people dying, people screaming, people getting eaten, and people having sex with inhuman creatures. I mean, what the hell am I supposed to think of all this? I feel like my eyes began to hurt from all this, and my brain got badly insulted and began to melt out of my ear, in about two hours or more. And what is even worse is that it looked to be such a great film in the beginning. The visuals were nice and natural, the soundtrack was not that present but very experimental and haunting when it was there, and the acting seemed great and I really love Sam Neill as well. But sorry, this just wasn't for me at all. It was missing consistency, focus, and control. It was just an ugly mess in my opinion… unfortunately.

1.5-

Captain Spaulding

01-15-15, 11:34 AM

and my brain got badly insulted and began to melt out of my ear

You should probably go to the hospital.

What are some of your favorite horror movies, MM? You don't seem to be a big fan of the genre.

mark f

01-15-15, 12:46 PM

You make it sound better than I remember! But I'm not planning a rewatch anytime soon. Well, not better, but more eventful. :)

MovieMeditation

01-15-15, 12:47 PM

You should probably go to the hospital.

What are some of your favorite horror movies, MM? You don't seem to be a big fan of the genre.
Damn, I really come off that way? Sh*t. :goof:

I love horror films. I'm even currently compiling a Top 50 of my favourite horror films of all time. And between the age of 10 and 15 it was basically all that I watched - or the majority was at least. The problem is there are just so many bad ones out there, and after experiencing horror films from A-Z as well, I feel like I have a harder time getting impressed when it comes to this genre.

I kind of don't want to give you my favourite horror films, as you will see them soon enough in my top 50. :p

Swan

01-15-15, 12:56 PM

Swan

01-15-15, 12:57 PM

Another exception: Cabin Fever.

Actually there are quite a few good post-2000's horror movies, it's just the bad ones I'm not into.

Captain Spaulding

01-15-15, 12:59 PM

Damn, I really come off that way? Sh*t. :goof:

I love horror films. I'm even currently compiling a Top 50 of my favourite horror films of all time. And between the age of 10 and 15 it was basically all that I watched - or the majority was at least. The problem is there are just so many bad ones out there, and after experiencing horror films from A-Z as well, I feel like I have a harder time getting impressed when it comes to this genre.

I kind of don't want to give you my favourite horror films, as you will see them soon enough in my top 50. :p

Fair enough. I look forward to your list, especially with your knack for including great write-ups.

I love horror, too, but you're right: a person has to wade through so much crap just to find one gem. I see a lot of horror movies nowadays that I'm sure I would've loved as a kid or a teenager, but I guess the flaws are now much more noticeable to me.

MovieGal

01-15-15, 12:59 PM

Another exception: Cabin Fever.

Actually there are quite a few good post-2000's horror movies, it's just the bad ones I'm not into.

Im not a fan of straight to video Horror that is current. I dont mind going to the theatre to see current horror. But I do prefer to seek out horror from other countries and watch them.

I enjoy horror films done by Blumhouse Production.

Swan

01-15-15, 01:02 PM

Im not a fan of straight to video Horror that is current.

Yeah that's what I meant. The straight to DVD horror that comes out nowadays is horrible.

MovieGal

01-15-15, 01:05 PM

Yeah that's what I meant. The straight to DVD horror that comes out nowadays is horrible.

I agree... I dont think I seen anything good .. I know it shows up on Netflix or Hulu soon so I will attempt to watch it there. "Jessabelle" is a current horror that is straight to DVD by Blumhouse... I did watch that with my movie buddy but it wasnt something I really enjoyed.

Believe me, if I had the means (which I mean "money"), I would fly to Europe and go to the cinema... but thats not ever going to happen...

MovieMeditation

01-15-15, 01:05 PM

I don't know why a fan of horror cinema would stop liking certain ones just because they've seen a lot. I still enjoy bad horror movies, to the max, granted not modern ones. I don't really care for a lot of modern horror for the most part (exception: The f*cking Babadook!). But, anyway, I think there's a charm to a lot of the bad horror movies of ages past, while bad horror movies that are more recent are just that, bad. My dad on the other hand is always buying these crappy new horror movies and I'm like, why dad, why waste your money on that when you can buy Slumber Party Massacre 3, just as bad but still better! In fact, give me an 80's slasher no matter how bad and I'll watch the sh*t out of that sh*t.

Don't mean to argue with you bruh I just don't get that line of reasoning. Horror fans often (but obviously not always, as you are evidence of) like the crap in the genre too, and I'm part of that camp, which is why it's weird to me. But I'm kind of a sucker for horror movies pre-2000's.
I think you have misunderstood me, or I might not have made things clear.

This was just not a good movie. It doesn't mean I don't enjoy the campy horror films, the low-budget ones, the high-budget ones, the scary, the symbolic, the vampires, the zombies... and I could go on forever. I LOVE the genre, but this was just a bad movie in my opinion and doesn't at all represent my taste in the various sub-genres.

Just to mention a few movies of great variation that I love,

Dead Alive/Braindead, The Others (2001), Psycho, The Fly (1986), Poltergeist, the Saw movies, Jacob's Ladder, V/H/S 1-2, From Dusk Till Dawn, The Evil Dead trilogy, Rogue, Dumplings, Child's Play, Oculus...........

So I don't see myself at all as throwing unnecessary hate towards a sub-genre, I just didn't like this particular film. And because I've seen a lot of horror and because I get older, I obviously notice more flaws and stuff, but that has nothing to do with the genre, that goes for ALL films. That is because I get more knowledge as I watch, and that doesn't mean I can't enjoy certain campy flicks or whatever. And as I've always said: A film can be great as long as it knows what kind of movie it is. If it goes for camp, fine, if it goes for scaryness, fine. But that don't means some can't be sh*t. ;)

Swan

01-15-15, 01:07 PM

Ah okay. There is a lot of unwatchable crap in the genre for sure.

MovieGal

01-15-15, 01:24 PM

I guess that's where I stand apart from some of you... if its English speaking, I really enjoy older horror

Dragonwyck (1946), The Picture of Dorian Gray (1945), Island of Lost Souls (1932), Dracula (1931), Frankenstein (1931), The Mummy (1932), King Kong (1933), Creature from the Black Lagoon (1954), The Haunting (1963), The House on Haunted Hill (1959), Phantom of the Opera (1925), The Uninvited (1944), Salem's Lot (1979), The Omen (1976)... and many more before the 1980s...

Horror from the 80s, I just look back and think how cheesy it was..

Zotis

01-15-15, 04:11 PM

There may have been a lot of cheesy horror movies in the eighties, but there are some good ones too.

MovieGal

01-15-15, 09:07 PM

Possession (1981)
2.5/5

Godoggo

01-15-15, 09:15 PM

There may have been a lot of cheesy horror movies in the eighties, but there are some good ones too.

Yeah, I think the 80s were a really good decade for horror. The 70s though. The 70s had some of the best all time horror movies out there.

Zotis

01-15-15, 09:39 PM

MovieGal

01-15-15, 09:42 PM

There's The Shining, The Fly, Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer (which I still need to watch), Videodrome, Pumpkinhead, Dead Ringers (Which I also still need to see), and Children of the Corn to name a bunch that I'm familiar with.

there are a few from the 80's that I enjoyed.. but then there are some that are just cheese... .my movie buddy and I watched "Motel Hell" together about a year ago... and I just laughed the whole time.. It wasnt that great....

Zotis

01-15-15, 09:47 PM

There is definitely more cheese than good movies. I watched Child's Play a couple years ago. I was actually expecting it to be scary, but it was just boring with terrible acting.

Probably my favorite Horror film director (all of his films are horror) is the British director Pete Walker. He was most active in the 70's, but also did a few in the 60's. Die Screaming Marianne, The Confessional, and House of Whipcord are the best of what I've seen so far, and House of Whipcord is one of my personal favorites.

Swan

01-15-15, 09:48 PM

Yeah, I think the 80s were a really good decade for horror. The 70s though. The 70s had some of the best all time horror movies out there.

Nothing beats the 70's in terms of horror, in my personal opinion.

Zotis

01-15-15, 09:53 PM

I think I have to agree that the 70's was the best decade for horror.

MovieGal

01-15-15, 09:55 PM

I think I have to agree that the 70's was the best decade for horror.

Yeah I agree too... but then the 1930's and 1940's had some good horror as well.

Zotis

01-15-15, 10:02 PM

I haven't seen enough horror from those decades. Perhaps I shouldn't have spoken in that case though...

Horror movies are getting visually more frightening, but in terms of atmosphere I don't know if it can be defined by decades. It's more just a few rare individual pieces from various eras that stand out as atmospherically frightening.

MovieGal

01-15-15, 10:06 PM

Zotis,

I enjoy horror from early 1900's... to the 1940's.. then from the 1960's and 1970's.... to some in the 1990's to today.....

Zotis

01-15-15, 11:08 PM

Have you seen Videodrome? Because David Cronenberg does great horror.

the samoan lawyer

01-16-15, 08:43 AM

Have you seen Videodrome? Because David Cronenberg does great horror.

Great call on Videodrome, Cronenberg is more body horror than actual horror but from the 11 that i have seen, Ive really enjoyed them all. Dead Ringers is especially great and disturbing.

MovieMeditation

01-16-15, 12:13 PM

Horror Hall of Fame
THE NIGHT
STALKER
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— 1972 —

I really wasn’t expecting much from this film when I first read about it; it just seemed like this unknown cheap television flick made for no money and with no talent – but I was dead wrong. First off, it has to be said that I didn’t know anything about the television series of which this film is based upon; neither did I know of its great popularity. Who knew that this little "unknown" made-for-television feature called 'The Night Stalker', would unexpectedly appear out of nowhere and eventually end up on a list of my favorite horror films? I would never have thought that but here it is…

This is a rather short movie, with a running time lasting only about 74 minutes, and thankfully we jump right into the story in the very first frame, so luckily there is no time wasted. The movie is basically set up and played out just like an investigation crime thriller, and we have this voice-over popping into focus once in a while, giving us the facts and findings in this murder mystery that once happened. It is a great approach, as it makes the movie feel like a noir-type film, and it really suits the movie greatly. And as we get to know all the characters I quickly realized that even those were well written and, not to forget, extremely well acted too.

So, where does the horror come in? Well, as I have said before I love horror films that cross between genres, and this was a crossover I hadn't really seen before; at least not like this... It is basically a cross between a noir crime thriller and a horror vampire flick. The way they have balanced it all out is quite unique and impressive, because as I said earlier, it plays out like an investigation of "just another case" in a crime universe, and therefore the character of the vampire is treated like any other murderer in town. Like, if someone really stumbled upon a vampire in real life and had to figure out what to do. But the vampire aspect is just as interesting and followed through, as we hear about all the classic myths and find out exactly how this person lives, sleeps and all other interesting vampire facts.

It is defiantly a small film, but still impressively made and nicely paced. We are thrown into the midst of it all from the start without much warning, as I said, then we hear about what happened and how no one seems to be able to make sense of it all, then we hear about how they proceed and how they get closer to the murderer, then all the theories starts to come forward and they are closing in on the suspect, and so on – exactly how you would experience a real life investigation, and you really feel like you are a part of it all. Not only because of the way the story builds up, but also because of the way it is filmed, scored and acted. A perfect noir crime thriller with a great little TWIST, and I had so much fun with this! It worked better than I could have imagined and has quickly become one of the most interesting "horror" films I hav seen.

This movie really holds your attention all the way through, and if you like investigation thrillers and doesn’t mind if things are spiced up with a few horror elements, then this should be perfect for you. I love crossovers between genres, and this is one of the more interesting ones that I have stumbled upon. I like how the vampire aspect is treated realistically, like if you really fell upon this creature one day and had to figure out what to do. It brings some great realism and intensity to the film, and together with some great acting and the fact that it is very impressively put together, you can’t help but be entertained by this one.

4+

honeykid

01-16-15, 01:30 PM

MovieMeditation

01-16-15, 01:37 PM

But it's not really a horror film, is it? I like it, I like the series and I quite like the follow up film, which is basically the same, but not quite as good. But it's not really a horror film any more than an epsisode of The X Files would be if it had a vampire.
Maybe it is not really a horror film, but on IMDb it is considered one. Plus, I'm always thinking of the subject and/or the approach when classifying a horror movie. So although the approach is not as much horror, the subject based around a vampire which is something that can not exist, and therefore I see it as a horror. :) But it is debatable, yes.

hello101

01-16-15, 02:11 PM

Woohoo, nice review MovieMeditation. Honeykid is steaming. I should get a move-on with this, been slacking.

cricket

01-16-15, 07:02 PM

In retrospect, I think I originally underrated The Night Stalker. I really liked that movie.

Cannibal is all ready to roll for tonight.

Sexy Celebrity

01-16-15, 07:03 PM

Cannibal is all ready to roll for tonight.

Again?! I thought you watched that 10,000,000 times already.

Zotis

01-16-15, 07:14 PM

I started The Night Stalker, but the acting at the begining wasn't great. I will watch it, but I doubt I'm going to end up liking it. The story was a bit boring too, at the beginning anyway...

cricket

01-16-15, 07:15 PM

I got it last Friday but the DVD was broken.

jiraffejustin

01-16-15, 07:20 PM

Doing decades horror lists could be fun, even with limited participation. I don't know which decade is the best, but I know that each decade since the inception of film has something to offer. Post-2000 is pretty great, in my opinion. I think the 80s has the most fun horrors. The 70s probably has the most stylish and possibly deepest pool of good horror films.

Sexy Celebrity

01-16-15, 07:23 PM

I disagree about '70s horror being the best -- not that there weren't great horrors in the '70s -- Texas Chain Saw Massacre and all that.

Frankly I think the '70s decade for movies... is a little overrated.

The '70s were weird. Sometimes I feel like there's such a drastic difference between the '70s and the '80s. Like, what the hell happened in 10 years?!

To me, the '80s were better for horror. I feel like so much happened then and paved the way for all the horror nostalgia that goes on now.

The '70s may have started stuff, but the '80s went full force.

MovieGal

01-16-15, 08:34 PM

Have you seen Videodrome? Because David Cronenberg does great horror.

I havent seen Videodrome but I have seen quite a few Cronenberg films.. "The Brood", "Scanners", "The Dead Zone", "The Fly", "Naked Lunch" and other films that are not horror related but I have to say I think "Spider" is my favorite... Ralph Fiennes is amazing in that film.

cricket

01-16-15, 11:40 PM

Cannibal

I have mixed feelings about this one. I knew going in to this that it was made for video, so my biggest concern was how well made it would be. I watch a decent amount of movies like this, and my reaction was that it was made reasonably well for it's low budget. It wasn't made as well as A Serbian Film, but it was about equal to The Human Centipede 2. At times I thought it looked pretty good, but other times not so much. The acting was also about average for a movie like this, although the voice of the main character was so odd that it was startling, and somewhat annoying.

My biggest problem with this movie was the gratuitous male nudity and fondling/sex. I'm not a prude or homophobic, but with a fascinating story such as this, I definitely thought that time could've been better spent elsewhere. The scenes of the two men nude together seemed to go on forever, and with only about an 85 minute runtime, I just didn't see the point.*

I thought parts of the movie were effective, especially the last 20-25 minutes. It's definitely sick and disturbing, but by comparison, I find my nominee in the 5th Hall of Fame, Boys Don't Cry, to be more disturbing, at least in an emotional way. I put a lot of stock in how memorable I find a movie to be, and for that reason, I'll give Cannibal a slightly generous 2.5

cricket

01-16-15, 11:57 PM

I have 4 left; Nightwatch and Audition, and rewatches of The Haunting and The Ring.

MovieGal

01-16-15, 11:58 PM

I have 6 left to watch.... I will try to get 3 in from now until next friday... we will see tho..

jiraffejustin

01-17-15, 12:48 AM

Starting Phibes right now. Looking forward to it.

Zotis

01-17-15, 02:20 AM

I havent seen Videodrome but I have seen quite a few Cronenberg films.. "The Brood", "Scanners", "The Dead Zone", "The Fly", "Naked Lunch" and other films that are not horror related but I have to say I think "Spider" is my favorite... Ralph Fiennes is amazing in that film.

I haven't seen The Brood, but it looks like a horror movie. IMDB labels it as Horror/Sci-Fi, and the trailer looks pretty creepy. Are you sure it's not?

Godoggo

01-17-15, 03:44 AM

I haven't seen The Brood, but it looks like a horror movie. IMDB labels it as Horror/Sci-Fi, and the trailer looks pretty creepy. Are you sure it's not?

I've seen it and horror/Sci-Fi is definitely what I would label it. It's pretty good. I like Scanners and Videodrome better, but I'd recommend The Brood.

Dead Ringers is more psychological thriller than horror, but that is the Cronenberg movie to watch as far as I'm concerned. It's a great movie.

Zotis

01-17-15, 04:27 AM

Yeah, I still need to watch Dead Ringers too.

honeykid

01-17-15, 08:53 AM

I really like The Brood. Beware, Zotis. :D That said, I don't love it, so you have some hope. I prefer Shivers and, possibly, Rabid, though I've not seen that in forever.

MovieMeditation

01-17-15, 09:37 AM

I have 6 more viewings left (or 7, if I absolutely positively have to finish that God awful 'Cannibal' movie...), as well as 2 I'd like to rewatch before I consider myself done and well-prepared for a definitive opinion on each of them. :)

Zotis

01-17-15, 10:32 AM

Rabid is really good.

Well, I still need to watch ten.

rauldc14

01-17-15, 10:51 AM

Swan

01-17-15, 11:57 AM

I really like The Brood. Beware, Zotis. :D That said, I don't love it, so you have some hope. I prefer Shivers and, possibly, Rabid, though I've not seen that in forever.

Early Cronenberg is best Cronenberg! Except maybe for Fly Cronenberg!

cricket

01-17-15, 01:35 PM

rauldc14

01-17-15, 01:41 PM

Alyce Kills has a slight edge for me

cricket

01-17-15, 01:43 PM

Awesome:p

Godoggo

01-17-15, 02:27 PM

I really like The Brood. Beware, Zotis. :D That said, I don't love it, so you have some hope. I prefer Shivers and, possibly, Rabid, though I've not seen that in forever.

I forgot about Rabid. I've seen it and remember liking it but it's been so long that I would have to watch it again to give a definitive opinion on it.

Cronenberg is creative and I like a few of his movies, but man when he misses, it's bad.

MovieGal

01-17-15, 02:35 PM

I have a website saved of Extreme/Horror Cinema.... I think over the next year... I will try to watch as many as possible... so if we ever do the Horror HoF again.. perhaps I will have something new

Godoggo

01-17-15, 02:55 PM

I think maybe there needs to be a special HoF just for that if there is enough interest.

I'm planning on running another horror one in October, but I think it's going to be more classic horror orientated.

Gatsby

01-17-15, 09:12 PM

Tale of Two Sisters

In horror, I either need some thrills and chills or I need an intriguing storyline. This movie provided neither for me. If it weren't part of a HOF, I'm not sure I could have finished it either. Now I think it certainly had a complex storyline, but it just wasn't one that grabbed my attention at all. I wasn't shocked or scared by anything in the film. The dialogue wasn't great for me neither. This is the one SC will struggle with though. If he can get past this he is in the clear.

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The thing is, Tale of Two Sisters is not supposed do be a shockingly scary classic horror, its rather a psychological thriller with sprinkles of horror as a condiment. Also the film is based off a way more peaceful South Korean traditional folk tale, having knowledge of this my conclusion is a very well done adaption. Sad you didn't like it Raul.

rauldc14

01-17-15, 09:17 PM

Sorry Gatsby. Its certainly more of a just didn't appeal to me then a downright bad film.

Godoggo

01-17-15, 09:34 PM

The thing is, Tale of Two Sisters is not supposed do be a shockingly scary classic horror, its rather a psychological thriller with sprinkles of horror as a condiment. Also the film is based off a way more peaceful South Korean traditional folk tale, having knowledge of this my conclusion is a very well done adaption. Sad you didn't like it Raul.

I think Tale of Two Sisters was one of the first movies I watched in that sort of Korean folk tale style. It got me wanting to watch more of that, but I always thought Two Sisters was one of the best.

Learning about the folk tales from other countries is neat. They are always so weird and a little twisted. I remember learning about Krampus as a child and I had a Grimm fairy tale book. It felt so eerie and creepy reading those stories and I would think about them all the time. They freaked me out but I loved them.

Swan

01-17-15, 09:39 PM

So are we allowed to skip Cannibal if we don't want to watch it? I skimmed through it... definitely not my style.

MovieMeditation

01-17-15, 09:48 PM

So are we allowed to skip Cannibal if we don't want to watch it? I skimmed through it... definitely not my style.
+1

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By the way, watched Tale of Two Sisters today. Will leave my thoughts tomorrow though, as I'm freaking tired now lol. I have been going to bad 3 and 4 am lately... Not a healthy lifestyle lol.

rauldc14

01-17-15, 09:52 PM

I'm ok with skipping it. But in a way we probably shouldn't be able to.

MovieGal

01-17-15, 10:21 PM

So are we allowed to skip Cannibal if we don't want to watch it? I skimmed through it... definitely not my style.

I kind of thought about asking Godoggo if I could suggest another film for you all to watch instead because of all the hate.... or I could drop out completely.... then you wouldnt have to watch it or rate it

rauldc14

01-17-15, 10:25 PM

We will just keep it probably,

MovieGal

01-17-15, 10:26 PM

We will just keep it probably,

why? you are not going to watch it.. .and everyone hated it but Cricket... and he thought it was just ok.........

rauldc14

01-17-15, 10:28 PM

I have to watch it. It's the rule. Well I don't have to but then my ballot probably wouldn't count.

MovieGal

01-17-15, 10:30 PM

I have to watch it. It's the rule. Well I don't have to but then my ballot probably wouldn't count.

Well I told you early in the game you didnt have to watch it..... I said I was ok with that.. I know my film will lose anyway.. it will come in last.....

rauldc14

01-17-15, 10:30 PM

Better luck next time?

MovieGal

01-17-15, 10:32 PM

Better luck next time?

Godoggo is going to do a classic horror hof next time.. but I do enjoy old horror from the 1940's.. so I got some in mind..... they wont be extreme at least....

TheUsualSuspect

01-17-15, 10:40 PM

I say at least make an effort to watch every film. If you feel the need to turn it off, then so be it.

MovieGal

01-17-15, 10:43 PM

I think Tale of Two Sisters was one of the first movies I watched in that sort of Korean folk tale style. It got me wanting to watch more of that, but I always thought Two Sisters was one of the best.

Learning about the folk tales from other countries is neat. They are always so weird and a little twisted. I remember learning about Krampus as a child and I had a Grimm fairy tale book. It felt so eerie and creepy reading those stories and I would think about them all the time. They freaked me out but I loved them.

I agree with you on this Godoggo.. the folk tales from Asia and other countries are interesting.. one of my favorite horror films is called .... "Zhai bian" and it deals with the folk tale of gaining fortune and keeping it..... I wont say exactly what they use in the process but its an interesting watch!

Godoggo

01-17-15, 11:06 PM

On the Cannibal thing. I can't in good conscious make someone watch something that is going to upset them or make them sick. It doesn't have anything to do with morality or thinking people shouldn't watch these films or that they shouldn't exist, it's just that some people can't handle really graphic content. I couldn't watch it without someone there to tell me it was ok to look.

I've gotten physically ill because of movies before and I've actually passed out because I was too polite to ask someone that nursed for a living that I couldn't handle her telling me about her job in very graphic detail. And yes I passed out lost consciousness passed out. I can handle some gore. I'd say my extreme is Audition and I Saw The Devil.

I'd be fine with Moviegal nominating another movie to replace Cannibal. I want to reiterate that I'm not morally opposed to those films, but they bother me on a physical level. They are meant to be extremely shocking and gory, so there are going to be people that can't go to that extreme. It's nothing personal, just like I could never be a nurse, I'm certainly not opposed to people being nurses.

If you want to nominate another movie, Moviegal, we still have plenty of time and I'd like you to stay in.

MovieGal

01-17-15, 11:14 PM

I'd be fine with Moviegal nominating another movie to replace Cannibal. I want to reiterate that I'm not morally opposed to those films, but they bother me on a physical level. They are meant to be extremely shocking and gory, so there are going to be people that can't go to that extreme. It's nothing personal, just like I could never be a nurse, I'm certainly not opposed to people being nurses.

If you want to nominate another movie, Moviegal, we still have plenty of time and I'd like you to stay in.

Thanks Godoggo... If everyone else is ok with me nominating another one.. fine... but seriously I talked to someone here who is close to me.. .and told them I was seriously thinking of dropping out.... In my opinion, there is to much whining and b*tching when it comes to comments about films... if someone doesn't like someone else's films... that shouldn't be a big deal.. but some do go a bit overboard with what they say....

I was perfectly ok with the people who didn't like my nomination and I never complained one bit.....

edit: one thing that did make me a bit angry was people who wouldn't even give it a chance....

Swan

01-17-15, 11:16 PM

I think two things need to happen:

1. MovieGal needs to stay in. MovieGal, I recommend nominating something different only because not everyone is watching Cannibal, which is the whole point. But it's your choice.

2. People need to stop being so negative. We all have differing opinions and that's great, debate is fine, but please by nice about it.

jiraffejustin

01-17-15, 11:21 PM

I don't really like that somebody wouldn't give her film a chance. Going into a horror hall of fame, you would have to think that something extreme could come up.

rauldc14

01-17-15, 11:23 PM

I don't really like that somebody wouldn't give her film a chance. Going into a horror hall of fame, you would have to think that something extreme could come up.

I agree, I mean, I highly doubt I'd like it, but I will watch and give anything a chance.

cricket

01-17-15, 11:43 PM

Same movie, but with 2 women instead, would have gotten 5:leo:

TheUsualSuspect

01-17-15, 11:49 PM

I won't be watching the replacement nominee, nor voting for whatever she chooses. I'm sticking to watching (or at least trying to watch) her first choice...in a HORROR hall of fame.

Swan

01-17-15, 11:51 PM

Okay, fine, don't change it and everyone will just keep bitching about the damn thing. I'm okay with that though if it's what you guys want.

TheUsualSuspect

01-17-15, 11:52 PM

Bitching about it is what makes these threads engaging. The discussion of film. No other film has gotten such a reaction. THAT is something.

Swan

01-17-15, 11:52 PM

Bitching =/= debate. Debate should be what makes these engaging. Bitching makes them frustrating and no fun.

rauldc14

01-18-15, 12:02 AM

I really don't think anyone has bitched about it. MovieMed, but he has since apologized.

jiraffejustin

01-18-15, 12:23 AM

I'd like to applaud MG for nominating Cannibal, it's obviously a movie she really likes and not an obvious choice like mine kind of is. I respect the (lady)balls it took to do that. I haven't seen it yet, and I might not like it at all, but that's not really the point. The point is that she likes it enough to show it to all of us, so #respect.

Swan

01-18-15, 12:24 AM

I've already given my support to MG but yeah, it's cool she nominated something she likes even if not everyone else does.

jiraffejustin

01-18-15, 12:28 AM

Same movie, but with 2 women instead, would have gotten 5:leo:

If you want to watch a movie about women cannibalizing each other, just watch Blue is the Warmest Color. And yes, it's very 5

Sexy Celebrity

01-18-15, 12:39 AM

I think I deserve all the applause! MovieGal wasn't even gonna nominate Cannibal until I told her she should just do it.

I pushed her into sickening all of you.

jiraffejustin

01-18-15, 12:43 AM

Remind me to never give anyone applause without giving Sexy some applause too :p

Sexy Celebrity

01-18-15, 12:44 AM

See I would participate if I could remember the name of this film I watched..... it was "entertaining, fun and sick"... but I dont think people want Extreme Horror....

I do.

Ok you got it Sexy.. I hope you can handle what I putting out there... for one .. its based off a true incident...

That's how it happened.

Captain Spaulding

01-18-15, 06:11 AM

Every time I visit this thread, I'm hoping that someone else has seen and written about Cannibal, so I'll be disappointed if you guys pussy out.

Captain Spaulding

01-18-15, 06:24 AM

Bitching =/= debate. Debate should be what makes these engaging. Bitching makes them frustrating and no fun.

Cannibal Discussion:

In your experience, Swan, how chewy is a penis? Did Cannibal accurately depict that chewiness? When cooking a penis, do you use any particular spices to accentuate the flavor? As a Master Chef in the culinary penis arts, what advice would you have given to the main character of Cannibal? Do mashed potatoes go good with penis or do your prefer your penis with just a salad?

MovieMeditation

01-18-15, 07:14 AM

Just for the record (like if we haven't discussed this film enough), I tried to watch it and I actually gave it a chance. I didn't just skip through it or held back from throwing it on my screen. I gave the film a genuine chance. And it so happens it ends up being one of the worst I have ever seen, but so be it. If someone else loves it fine, they can do that, I just didn't... Isn't that the whole point of this? Opinions?

I indeed respect MovieGal for going in a completely different direction, but I still don't quite understand this choice. You can give me all the extreme gore you want, but I have never seen a film that felt so much like a student project. If it was well done I would probably most likely finish it even if I hated it, but this just didn't have anything good to it in my opinion. And that is just my opinion, so others can do or think as they please, I'm not here to ruin anything. Just speaking my mind.

Don't know about replacing it, that would maybe ruin the idea of it all. But yeah, I don't know...

Godoggo

01-18-15, 11:55 AM

I'm going to be gone for awhile, so if anyone needs anything Cricket is here to answer any questions. You can still send me your list when your done, but I won't be here to post for awhile.

cricket

01-18-15, 12:55 PM

**IMPORTANT**

MovieGal has decided not to continue with this Horror Hall of Fame. She will not be voting, and Cannibal is no longer eligible.

If you haven't watched Cannibal yet, you do not have to.

MovieGal is still welcome to post in this thread for fun.

Swan

01-18-15, 12:56 PM

Sorry to see you go MovieGal.

Sexy Celebrity

01-18-15, 01:10 PM

I'm out, too. I'm not gonna watch all of these movies. Not that that's really major news.

rauldc14

01-18-15, 01:11 PM

I will still watch Hellraiser 2. I just knew Sexy would not be able to watch an Asian flick.

cricket

01-18-15, 01:15 PM

Ok, it's official. Hellraiser II and Cannibal are no longer eligible.

hello101

01-18-15, 01:21 PM

Yeah, I don't want to watch these movies either. Sorry guys. I just don't like watching stuff by force, you know. SORRY

rauldc14

01-18-15, 01:23 PM

Wow, so I went from having 8 left to watch to only five. Anyone else?

MovieMeditation

01-18-15, 01:29 PM

Okay, what the hell is happening here? When you commit to something you know exactly what is expected of you, and you know damn well how much time and effort it takes and the rules of everything...

This actually pisses me more off than Cannibal, being a movie I absolutely hated. I have used my time watching peoples nominations and then they end up not eligible because people all of a sudden backs out with an explanation that makes no sense on why they joined in the first place.

MovieGal presumably backs out because her extremely disturbing and graphic nomination is causing a bit of controversy - as it was expected to do when you pick such film. Then two more backs out because of not wanting to do exactly what a Hall of Fame is all about. I just don't understand? It kind of ruins it for everybody else, so why join in the first place and why pick a controversial movie if you don't want the controversy?

Swan

01-18-15, 01:29 PM

Wow, so I went from having 8 left to watch to only five. Anyone else?

I went from 5 to 3.

hello101

01-18-15, 01:31 PM

It's not MovieGal's fault, I was looking to back out earlier. It has nothing to do with her.

Swan

01-18-15, 01:32 PM

Can I ask why you joined in the first place, if you don't like being made to watch movies?

hello101

01-18-15, 01:35 PM

Spur of the moment, sounded great on paper then when you see all those films, you kinda sigh and roll your brows like "DO I HAVE TOO?"

hello101

01-18-15, 01:39 PM

I know what, I feel like an a-s-s now. Forget this whole little fiasco, I'm back in. I'll tough it out.

MovieMeditation

01-18-15, 01:42 PM

I know what, I feel like an a-s-s now. Forget this whole little fiasco, I'm back in. I'll tough it out.
How many have you seen up until now?

By the way, don't think of it as something you have to do, then it gets freaking annoying and distracting to sit down and watch them. Just put one of the noms on once in a while, and maybe watch something you really want in the weekend, and then take a horror nomination right after, if you don't have to get up the next day. ;)

rauldc14

01-18-15, 01:43 PM

Nobody has been forced to join these things. We usually have plenty of members. In the future, I would appreciate it if anybody with no intention of finishing not join these. We have had a few times where life obstacles came up and people couldn't finish, but I feel that's different.

I just feel the same as MovieMeds. We put time into watching other people's nominations. If they drop out, we could have used that time to watch other films.

cricket

01-18-15, 01:46 PM

Omg, I keep sending pms and people keep changing there minds.

Hello101 is back in!

seanc

01-18-15, 01:48 PM

Just so you guys know the noir HOF is going swimmingly.:D

Sexy Celebrity

01-18-15, 01:51 PM

Spur of the moment, sounded great on paper then when you see all those films, you kinda sigh and roll your brows like "DO I HAVE TOO?"
This is why I think people should know what's on the list BEFORE they sign up for something like this.

I was expecting better films. And instead, it's all this stuff that I don't have, have never seen, can't find and don't really desire to see.

If I had known what the films would be, I definitely wouldn't have signed up. I did back out at one point.

I know you all like the idea of a Hall of Fame, but being forced to watch things -- especially just for a vote on "best to worst" -- does not work for me. Unless I'm aware of all that's on the plate before I agree to do it. It's just too much, trying to watch all these things so fast. A typical monthly book club gives you a month or more just to read ONE book.

I gave it a try. But... *shrugs*

I like the idea of a more intimate setting for deeper discussions about movies, but, maybe that can be had in any old thread.

cricket

01-18-15, 01:55 PM

So the two people who dropped out, I watched both of their movies, and they were the two that liked my movie the most.:data:

rauldc14

01-18-15, 01:56 PM

Not everyone is going to like every film.

Sexy Celebrity

01-18-15, 01:57 PM

We put time into watching other people's nominations. If they drop out, we could have used that time to watch other films.

Well, I'm not really sympathetic. You guys watched some new movies -- big deal if it cut into your time that you would have spent watching something else.

The fact that you explored new territory should be what's more important than if it "took up your time" or "wasn't really necessary."

A movie club should be about exploration, not results.

Swan

01-18-15, 01:59 PM

So the two people who dropped out, I watched both of their movies, and they were the two that liked my movie the most.:data:

I'm looking forward to Alyce Kills, cricket.

Sexy Celebrity

01-18-15, 02:02 PM

So the two people who dropped out, I watched both of their movies, and they were the two that liked my movie the most.:data:
Cricket, what's more important?

The results of this stupid contest or the fact that you introduced me to something I wouldn't have watched before?

ALICE KILLS is not going to buy you a steak dinner if you cause it to win a forum contest.

MovieMeditation

01-18-15, 02:12 PM

Knowing the nominations beforehand would be stupid. Personally I joined this because,

A) I get to see a lot of movies I likely would never watch or maybe they were laying around my watchlist forever and will finally pick them up and watch them. B) I get to discuss the movies, with others, and rank them, and talk about them. C) I do it for the fun of it, I don't care what wins, I joined because of the fun and interaction with other members about movies they personally love. D) Sexy Celebrity sucks balls.

cricket

01-18-15, 02:12 PM

I think you'll like it Swan.

And SC, you are correct.

Godoggo

01-18-15, 02:14 PM

Just so you guys know the noir HOF is going swimmingly.:D

Gee, I wonder why.

Godoggo

01-18-15, 02:33 PM

Well, I'm not really sympathetic. You guys watched some new movies -- big deal if it cut into your time that you would have spent watching something else.

The fact that you explored new territory should be what's more important than if it "took up your time" or "wasn't really necessary."

A movie club should be about exploration, not results.

This is not a movie club. It is in fact about the results. It was created with the intention of coming up with one result. It's been that way since Jirrafe created it two years ago. This isn't something new, so what would appear foolish to me is the person who joins something with established rules and regulations that they didn't agree with.

If this was a movie club geared towards exposing people to watching new movies they hadn't seen before, then nominating widely seen movies would be discouraged but that's not the case. People are supposed to be nominating movies that they believe to be of quality.

If you want something else start something else.

Anyway, I edited the first post. If we get get on with discussing the movies and critiquing them, it would be great. Let's just ignore everything else. It's petty and ridiculous and I've got more important things going on to deal with.

I watched Night Stalker. Really surprised at how much I liked it. I have to admit being a little doubtful about a TV movie, but it's something I will watch again.

Now, I'm disappearing for my much needed break. I'm going to continue watching the movies and I'll comment when I get back.

Sexy Celebrity

01-18-15, 02:33 PM

Well, this Horror Hall of Fame hasn't blown up. This is probably the best Hall of Fame yet. It's still running. It's been very exciting. You all watched some controversial horror movies and then the people who nominated them ditched ya. That's very horror-like.

Sexy Celebrity

01-18-15, 02:44 PM

D) Sexy Celebrity sucks balls.

I really appreciate that you took the time to watch my nomination.

MovieMeditation

01-18-15, 03:05 PM

I really appreciate that you took the time to watch my nomination.
I watched two movies, TWO for your nomination Sexy! I had not seen the first one, so I though I might as well watch that to prepare properly for your nomination, and then YOU LEAVE?

I'm not even mad Sexy, I'm sad. Deep inside. It's like, this thing, that just keeps hitting me in the balls with a tiny little hammer. You know? I'M BROKEN INSIDE! BROKEN I TELL YOU! and I have sore balls now as well... what has the world come to

rauldc14

01-18-15, 03:11 PM

Sexy Celebrity

01-18-15, 03:21 PM

I'm most disappointed in SC because, well he is one of the so called horror fanatics of this site. I was looking forward to his thoughts mainly on The Haunting, Suspiria, You're Next, and Nosferatu the Vampyr.

I'm not that big of a horror nut. I used to be, but a lot of my fascination with horror has died off. It was something I loved ever since I was a child, but it's really lost a lot of luster. I think being a child of the '80s caused me to grow up being that way, but things have changed. Horror was glamorous and exciting and very raw and powerful back then, especially as a kid. A Nightmare on Elm Street movies and such were my fantasy escapes. But now it's different and I'm old and horror has changed. Plus, I've never been much into classic horror and such. Raw brutality is what I like. That's why I appreciate Texas Chain Saw Massacre, though it's '70s. Murderers who make me laugh. They're so very hard to find these days.

Sexy Celebrity

01-18-15, 03:23 PM

I watched two movies, TWO for your nomination Sexy! I had not seen the first one, so I though I might as well watch that to prepare properly for your nomination, and then YOU LEAVE?

I'm not even mad Sexy, I'm sad. Deep inside. It's like, this thing, that just keeps hitting me in the balls with a tiny little hammer.

http://www.movieforums.com/community/attachment.php?attachmentid=19566&stc=1&d=1421609005

Captain Spaulding

01-18-15, 03:37 PM

Murderers who make me laugh. They're so very hard to find these days.

Our relationship makes a lot more sense now.

TheUsualSuspect

01-18-15, 03:49 PM

I don't know why SC signs up for ANYTHING. He always backs out, this is survivor all over again. Maybe we should just ban him from joining anything like this.

Sexy Celebrity

01-18-15, 03:55 PM

I don't know why I signed up for THIS SITE.

TheUsualSuspect

01-18-15, 04:14 PM

I don't know why I signed up for THIS SITE.

Well, whenever you figure it out...

rauldc14

01-18-15, 04:14 PM

Well, you can't really depend on him for anything. Even banning himself.

Swan

01-18-15, 04:23 PM

MovieGal wanted me to tell you guys the controversy over Cannibal wasn't the only reason she left, it had to do with other reactions to things.

Sexy Celebrity

01-18-15, 04:51 PM

I don't know why I signed up for THIS SITE.

Well, whenever you figure it out...

I'll make a thread and explain. Or a game.

Gatsby

01-18-15, 07:55 PM

What did I miss?

seanc

01-18-15, 07:58 PM

What did I miss?

MoFo Massacre. Get it?

Gatsby

01-18-15, 08:04 PM

MoFo Massacre. Get it?

I see, so MG and Sexy fired the first shots, everyone started running around in panic, and it seems like Godo wants to hang everyone for doing so. Well glad its over. Back to film discussion. I'll be posting my thoughts on The Ring in a few hours.

rauldc14

01-18-15, 08:06 PM

Yeah I'm over it all. If you are in, you're in. If you're out you're out. Let's get on with it indeed.

Sexy Celebrity

01-18-15, 08:18 PM

MovieGal and I tried to start a purge.

Daniel M

01-18-15, 08:19 PM

I'll make a thread and explain. Or a game.

The "Pretend Sexy Celebrity is leaving Movie Forums Thread"

seanc

01-18-15, 08:21 PM

The "Pretend Sexy Celebrity is leaving Movie Forums Thread"

Just 100 different pics of Yoda with his fingers crossed.

MovieGal

01-18-15, 08:38 PM

MovieGal and I tried to start a purge.

No people dont know how to handle criticism... I had no problems when everyone was trashing Cannibal.... but if I comment on their film... God forbid!

When you have seen the films I have seen... most common horror especially if its a parody of 80's stuff... is nothing....

TheUsualSuspect

01-18-15, 09:20 PM

It's just people defending their picks. It's called 'discussion'.

the samoan lawyer

01-19-15, 09:06 AM

I didn't think there was any need to drop out MG but I was having a hard time finding Cannibal to watch so it suits me in the end that i don't have to. If people don't want to watch it then that's not on you, its them. Anyway, hope there is another Horror HOF that you enter.

the samoan lawyer

01-19-15, 09:12 AM

Next up, is a rewatch of Rosemary's Baby.

Gatsby

01-19-15, 09:41 AM

The Ring (2003)

I have mixed feelings about it. I don't think this movie holds up well on repeat viewings, at least for me, because I felt a dip in my overall experience during this second time.

First off this is one of the very few films that I felt like the Hollywood version worked better. The atmosphere of the original can't be beaten but by giving it better direction and a clearer focus it improved greatly. Naomi Watts' performance is them only one that stood out but she covers everything. I also enjoyed the focus on imagery instead of gore (not because I'm the typical squeamish viewer lol) and Gore Verbinski's horror direction. In my opinion he should have just stayed at this genre.

What I don't like, however is the lack of character development, and the film could have used a lot of it. A horror film is indeed supposed to focus on having smart scares and unexpected twists, but in the case of The Ring it tires in a boring way. It may be because I rarely get scared at horror films, but even if I did it wouldn't make a huge difference in my enjoyment.

Not saying it was bad, but not a one where I would want to watch it a lot of times just because I can. In fact, I rank it in the league of the more better nominated films.

...I'm so glad I didn't watch it on TV with a videotape. :D

3

honeykid

01-19-15, 09:49 AM

...I'm so glad I didn't watch it on TV with a videotape. :D
That's how I watched the original. On a tv about 4 feet from my face. At 2am. Then turned it off and went to sleep. Like I've said, horror films ain't scary.

I was hoping Possession would turn up today, but it hasn't arrived yet. I'm hoping to get a couple watched this week.

I don't really know why MG dropped out, but it's a shame she has. SC was guaranteed from the start. :D

rauldc14

01-19-15, 11:13 AM

A second look after the board with the few dropouts we had, I still need to see The Haunting, The Night Stalker, Suspiria, Audition, Nightwatch, and Possession. I'll probably go with The Night Stalker next.

hello101

01-19-15, 12:23 PM

Possession
1.5
Utter confusion, I really don't know what to make of this film. It's just freaky sequence after freaky sequence, not much coherent continuation. That squid sex scene though.

cricket

01-19-15, 12:34 PM

Possession seems to divide people like no other in this tourney. Right now, it's my favorite.

MovieMeditation

01-19-15, 12:50 PM

Possession seems to divide people like no other in this tourney. Right now, it's my favorite.
My I ask why? Can't remember your review of it.

Other than it pushes your extreme-gore pleasure bottons in a comfortably disturbing way, cricket, what makes it your favourite? :p ;)

Swan

01-19-15, 01:05 PM

I'm making my way through it right now and really liking it, too. I haven't gotten to the crazy stuff yet but I'm like the overall weirdness of it and cast so far. I think I'll be on the side that loves it.

jiraffejustin

01-19-15, 01:12 PM

Isabelle Adjani is the only reason you need to love Possession.

cricket

01-19-15, 03:19 PM

My I ask why? Can't remember your review of it.

Other than it pushes your extreme-gore pleasure bottons in a comfortably disturbing way, cricket, what makes it your favourite? :p ;)

Not especially disturbing that way, but it's strange, and I also thought it was kind of like an art film.

the samoan lawyer

01-20-15, 09:31 AM

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/ef/Rosemarys_baby_poster.jpg/220px-Rosemarys_baby_poster.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rosemarys_baby_poster.jpg)
Rosemary's Baby

Psychological horror is probably my favourite sub-genre in film so this is right up my street. Polanski creates the perfect setting and atmospheric tone throughout and both Farrow and Casavettes deliver insanely great perfromances. Even after repeat viewings I still love watching the twist. I remember watching for the first time and the film completely messed with my mind, I had no idea what was to come or what was even real. Mission accomplished Roman.

For me it is paced slowly but in no way is this a criticism, as it makes everything fall completely into place and gets right under your skin. I'm a fan of Polanski and especially his Apartment trilogy which this film sits in the middle of. I do slightly prefer Repulsion but still, this gets a rating_4_5 from me.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTIghGeuUs4wrXCJBOwcoG0TUfpDa-6lE3lcKIHDDRNoE0sdL7-oQ

TheUsualSuspect

01-21-15, 08:50 AM

With two 'lower' quality films dropping out, this means You're Next will surely be near the bottom. :p

the samoan lawyer

01-21-15, 09:33 AM

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/cd/SuspiriaItaly.jpg/220px-SuspiriaItaly.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SuspiriaItaly.jpg)
Suspiria

For me, this is more than just a horror film, being a giallo it has elements of murder-mystery involved, which is certainly something I think you need to keep in mind before viewing. It does kind of labor a bit and true, its not really that scary but........ the atmosphere. The amazing use of colour and the retro soundtrack from Goblin make the film what it is and are probably most famous from it. The shock of THAT first muder scene shrewdly keeps us on our toes throughout, which is an important aspect to this film. The other death scenes are pretty well executed too, with gore on show, which is usually likely to keep me interested at least.

Granted, the acting isn't that great and like I said earlier, it can be quite slow but overall, Suspiria's style outweighs it's substance.

4

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the samoan lawyer

01-21-15, 09:35 AM

With two 'lower' quality films dropping out, this means You're Next will surely be near the bottom. :p

You never know TUS, i expected everyone to like Possession but that's certainly not been the case so far. I reckon Rosemary's Baby will be the victor.

MovieMeditation

01-21-15, 09:43 AM

I kind of regret picking Rosemary's Baby. It's an obvious classic and it can reach a wider audience than some of these films. But because this was my first HoF I didn't want to get too experimental and all...

And honestly, I thought there would be at least 2-3 classics, like Halloween and such. But oh well, to me it's gonna be fun to order them, not just which makes the top spot. :)

the samoan lawyer

01-21-15, 09:46 AM

MovieMeditation

01-21-15, 10:33 AM

Horror Hall of Fame
A Tale of
Two Sisters
https://www.lyradia.com/bilder/db_bilder/EN_4049834002688_48925_CBILD.JPG
— 2003 —

I'm posting these thoughts late, since I watched it on the 17th...
I have actually had this movie on my watchlist already and it has been there for quite some time... Finally I had an opportunity to check it out in this Horror HoF, and usually I love these kinds of horrors as well. For example, I remember the original Japanese Grudge films to be much better and a lot more scary than the remakes. Generally they just know how to create frightening imagery and disturbing frame compositions that works to great effect. So as you can tell I was very excited to see what this one could bring to the table of the foreign horror genre, more specifically, South Korean horror, but really I just slam them all in there in the same category as with the Japanese ones... No racism intended. (;

MAJOR spoilers ahead...
So the movie opens a little slow if I should say so, but when the girls arrived to the house I began to see the effort that was put into the cinematography and the overall atmosphere. But I have to say something here right off the bat: as soon as the girls went inside and met with their aunt or whatever, and the one girl grabbed the other girls wrist and all, that is exactly where I had already figured the plot out. Anybody else thought this was just too obvious? I was just like "oh, she's dead" and whatever, but really it doesn't matter. If the movie is good it doesn’t need to rely on twists. And actually, throughout the movie it did try to change my opinion back, because of some of the directorial decisions, which I thought was pretty smart. But in the end of it all I thought they were the straight up opposite...

Because, the way all this is handled is quite poor if I should say so. Now, I do think that I got the most of what was happening, but reading through the IMDb reviews I saw many who had their own idea of what was going down, and some who had no idea, and it really seemed like the director and writer got lost in their own little wicked world. Like if they really just "went for it" and wanted to create as much confusion and questions as possible, but in the end the director just lets too much float unanswered in the air. Not in an “open ending and free interpretation” kind of way, but more just lazy in my opinion. And the ghost elements brought nothing new to the table either; apparently Samantha from The Ring had some time off to come star in this movie as well.

The acting was good though, the cinematography really well handled and the actual dialogue seemed well written also. But the story was just one big mess (or at least it ended up like that) and it is a shame since it seemed like a grounded and smaller horror film at first, trying to capture the claustrophobic terror and disturbing and broken relationships between characters and their past. For me the story is simply the key element to a good movie. I just can't help but notice how many flaws it has and how messy it all becomes. It particularly goes miles too far at the end of the film, as far as conclusion goes, where the director just shoves all of what he has left, in there, instead of interweaving it all nicely throughout the film, and in that way build up the tension. I don't want one big draggy epilogue with a bad attempt at concluding the events that happened. It seems lazy to simply deliver it like the director did, and just leave everything to the viewer, eagerly praying that they are blown away to great extent by the "twist(s)" that he will have great success with audience. Nope, doesn't work for me. Sorry.

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the samoan lawyer

01-21-15, 12:23 PM

Ouch.
To be honest I can't really remamber that much about A tale of two Sisters so I am looking forward to seeing it again. I enjoyed the ending and I think i remember liking the very beginning too. I remember feeling a bit let down and felt that it really could have been much better but we'll see. I'll probably rate it higher than you did.

And yes, I did catch on quick enough to the twist but it didn't bother me too much.

honeykid

01-21-15, 04:29 PM

I'm dreading Rosemary's Baby winning. It'll be a great injustice. :p

I will say that I was also surprised that a couple of real horror classics didn't show. NOES, Halloween, TCM, or something like that. Quite pleased, especially with TCM, but surprised nonetheless.

Swan

01-21-15, 04:31 PM

I was thinking of nominating Halloween, obviously, but opted not to as I expected Raul to nominate it.

rauldc14

01-21-15, 04:32 PM

I should have. I think it would have been a walkaway win though to be honest.

honeykid

01-21-15, 05:24 PM

I didn't go with any of them purposely because I'd consider it cheating. :D

Sexy Celebrity

01-21-15, 05:29 PM

I didn't go with any of them purposely because I'd consider it cheating. :D

Cheating? Had MovieGal stayed in the competition, her Cannibal movie would have probably won. These people don't care for classics. They just wanna go for what's obscure.

honeykid

01-21-15, 05:44 PM

Cannibal had no chance.

Sexy Celebrity

01-21-15, 05:47 PM

No, they'd probably all change their mind at the last minute and give it to her. "She was so brave for nominating that. Bravo! You win."

the samoan lawyer

01-22-15, 12:26 PM

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Nosferatu the Vampyre

Kinski plays the title role really well, even giving Dracula a more 'personal' feel, with a seemingly tired/more complicated appearance than usual, which was a major plus for me. It has a fairly trademark Herzog feel about it, with really beautifully shot scenes and settings and overall it felt almost dreamlike, which to be honest isn't really to my preferred taste for a Dracula movie but it does seem a bit unfair for me to criticise something for being 'too' beautiful. Nevertheless, I feel that this maybe caused the film to be less scary than I was expecting.

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TheUsualSuspect

01-22-15, 03:11 PM

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What a perv, he's coping a feel.

rauldc14

01-22-15, 11:34 PM

Possession

I wouldn't be surprised if this was the film that took home the victory. There is so much going on in this film that at times it's hard to keep track. It was definitely an action packed film. It has a lot of haunting scenes, and Adjani is stunning as well as does a good job of acting in the film. The bloody types scenes are at a minimum and are used effectively and creatively. This wasn't my favorite but i can certainly see the appeal of a film such as this. The thing about this one is that it is unlike any other and wasn't afraid to take a chance.

2.5+

Swan

01-22-15, 11:35 PM

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What a perv, he's coping a feel.

You would be too.

rauldc14

01-22-15, 11:36 PM

And for the record, she's coped again in Posession. Be prepared.

Godoggo

01-23-15, 12:12 AM

I didn't go with any of them purposely because I'd consider it cheating. :D

Not really, because that's kind of what these special HoFs are for. Halloween might sort of be an easy win for a horror HoF, but I could never see it win a standard HoF. I still don't know if it would be an automatic win. I think Rosemary's Baby or even Audition giving it a run for it's money.

For the record, I almost nominated Halloween. I thought someone else would so I didn't. :)

I've watched Possession and A Tale of Two Sisters. I like A Tale of Two Sisters better than most of you seem too. I know the twist is a twist that appears in a lot of movies, but I don't care as long as the story is well-executed and my interest never wanes. Sisters succeeded in both of those things as well as having that creepy, eerie atmosphere that I want. Also the twist doesn't feel gimmicky here like it does in other movies.

Watching Possession was one of those movies where you're continuously asking yourself "what in the heck am I watching and what in the heck is wrong with these people and what in the hell is happening now?" but you can't get enough of it. By the time your getting what just happened figured out something else weird is happening.

It's probably going to be pretty high on my list, but I'm definitely watching again before the deadline.

TheUsualSuspect

01-23-15, 12:21 AM

I'm kind of surprised to see Rosemary's Baby nominated, since it's such a popular film. I figured everyone would have went with more underrated, obscure stuff.

the samoan lawyer

01-23-15, 09:56 AM

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A Tale of Two Sisters

Rather unexpectantly, I preferred this the second time around, given the storyline. Technicaly I thought it was really impressive. The settings were great, direction excellent and the use of colour was brilliant plus it had a decent score too. The film itself does move along quite slowly and can become confusing, which made it a bit frustrating at times. Also, regarding the twist, you do have a general idea of what is going to happen however in no way did the film come across as predictable. In my opinion the director left just enough room for interpretation here.

The acting is superb from all the cast and the whole film has a real creepiness and eery feel to it. For me, a big fan of psychological horror, it definately succeeds and the fact that it leaves more questions than it answers seems rather fitting.

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Godoggo

01-23-15, 10:20 AM

Yeah, the American remake The Uninvited takes away all the ambiguity that Sisters has and doesn't leave you with that mild sense of feeling disorientated that a good psychological horror film should leave you with.

The "hallucinated person" twist has been done to death, but Sisters does it well and isn't relying on fooling the audience to make the film work. The story remains most important. .

MovieMeditation

01-23-15, 10:28 AM

I'm kind of surprised to see Rosemary's Baby nominated, since it's such a popular film. I figured everyone would have went with more underrated, obscure stuff.
I went over my choice a few pages back and why I ended up with Rosemary's Baby...

This is the first ever HoF I am participating in, and I know very little about how things are done or whatever. So since I wasn't sure how it all went down and what kind of direction people would go in, I went for something a bit more direct. But now I see people mainly use it to get people to discover their favorites, and not necessarily pick a movie they think can compete if the likes of RB or Halloween would be picked. And honestly, at one point I debated whether or not I should pick something popular or something underrated. But something told me that people would probably pick the likes of Halloween and such but I guess not...

I almost picked Oculus, but I guess that must be for another time.

honeykid

01-23-15, 10:48 AM

You didn't do anything wrong, MM. :) I feel like I'm cheating if I nominate stuff like that, but that's just me. I've only just started to nominate stuff like Elton John or The Doors in the song tournaments. I didn't do it before for the same reason.

I don't think the HoF should be obscure stuff, but I think of it as either the very best/classic (Psycho, Halloween, ANOES, TCM, The Exorcist etc) or good/very good, but not quite as well seen/known. That's why I went with The Haunting. If The Haunting won, I'd consider it of enough quality to be deserving. Whereas, if I'd gone with The Toolbox Murders, while I love it, I'd be slightly embarrassed for it to have a HoF place.

For me, HoF just imbues the noms with a touch of quality and it's silly when they don't have them.

the samoan lawyer

01-23-15, 10:56 AM

The Sci-Fi Slob

01-23-15, 11:12 AM

Martyrs should have made the hall of fame.:(

Godoggo

01-23-15, 11:19 AM

I went over my choice a few pages back and why I ended up with Rosemary's Baby...

This is the first ever HoF I am participating in, and I know very little about how things are done or whatever. So since I wasn't sure how it all went down and what kind of direction people would go in, I went for something a bit more direct. But now I see people mainly use it to get people to discover their favorites, and not necessarily pick a movie they think can compete if the likes of RB or Halloween would be picked. And honestly, at one point I debated whether or not I should pick something popular or something underrated. But something told me that people would probably pick the likes of Halloween and such but I guess not...

I almost picked Oculus, but I guess that must be for another time.

In most HoFs it's about half widely seen classics and about half lesser known films. Which ever route is chosen people should be nominating films that they can get behind and really feel proud of if their movie is the one that gets inducted.

Like HK said we all have personal favorites that we love but those movies might not really qualify for a hall of fame. You picked an excellent movie for what the HoF is.

People find great new movies in HoFs, but the goal is always to get great movies inducted, whether they be obscure or classics. You can throw in personal favorites, but unless they are quality movies they never fare well.

Rosemary's Baby belongs in a horror HoF. As does Halloween. Next time. :)

Godoggo

01-23-15, 11:25 AM

That's actually been on my watchlist for a while. I didn't realise it was a remake

It's not horrible but it's nowhere near as good.

rauldc14

01-23-15, 12:28 PM

The Night Stalker

I can't say much about the film that hasn't already been said. Like many others, I was quite surprised by this. I agree with Meditation that it does feel like a cross between a horror vampire flick and a noir film, that is probably what makes it appealing to me as I enjoy the cross genre films a lot of the times. I like the setting of Las Vegas obviously, and it was cool to see what the strip looked like back in the 70s. The vampire character was a chilling one, instead of a cheesy one. The acting was well done as was the storyline. The ending of the film was really was executed too. Nice recommendation, hello101!

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MovieMeditation

01-23-15, 01:18 PM

I didn't go with any of them purposely because I'd consider it cheating. :D
I see your point, but you know we didn't know the noms beforehand.

So, it wouldn't be cheating if RB was up against Halloween, ANOES, TCM etc now would it? :p

So it's simply because I didn't knew about all this. But yeah, I see what's happening now and next time I'll probably pick something more underrated/underseen. ;)

But to hell with Rosemay's Baby now (no pun intended). Let's see how all the others line up!

rauldc14

01-23-15, 01:24 PM

I've got 4 left to see now. Looking forward to The Haunting and Suspiria. Audition I'll hold for second last as I haven't heard from Zotis much. I'll hold Night Watch for last, as I haven't heard much from Mistique in here either.

Godoggo

01-23-15, 02:01 PM

I see your point, but you know we didn't know the noms beforehand.

So, it wouldn't be cheating if RB was up against Halloween, ANOES, TCM etc now would it? :p

So it's simply because I didn't knew about all this. But yeah, I see what's happening now and next time I'll probably pick something more underrated/underseen. ;)

But to hell with Rosemay's Baby now (no pun intended). Let's see how all the others line up!

I know I'm saying this over and over again, but I feel it's really important that people don't feel discouraged to nominate classics or that somehow there is more value in nominating something more obscure. Nominate movies that you feel are worthy of being a Hall of Fame inductee.

On the other hand, I certainly don't want to discourage lesser known films either. I've watched some fantastic movies that I hadn't even heard of until they were nominated and I've nominated a couple of lesser known films myself.

I just don't want people to lose sight of what this is which is a group of members voting on movies so that we have a list of fantastic films nominated and voted for by movie forum members. It's not a movie watching club to watch a bunch of movies that people haven't heard of.

My point is that when people nominate a movie I want them thinking about why the movie is so good it should be nominated and not about other things. ;)

cricket

01-23-15, 05:29 PM

Regarding MM's nomination of Rosemary's Baby: I'm in the camp who ordinarily would prefer to see something new. However, I felt this was an exception. With the upcoming 60's list, the timing was perfect as I wanted to see it again anyway.

hello101

01-23-15, 05:44 PM

Suspiria
3
I prefer Mario Bava to Dario Argento as far as french horror filmmakers go, this was a pleasant surprise though. Like others have said, the pluses are definitely in the visuals and soundtrack, almost overshadowing the actual narrative. The vibrancy of the colors give the entire thing are cartoonish feel. I didn't find it scary but very pleasing to the eye and I applaud the director for the distinct styling in Suspiria. So, visuals and soundtrack are the strong points. I enjoyed it.

hello101

01-23-15, 05:48 PM

Sorry, I meant Italian, not French.

Thanks to honeykid for the heads-up.

cricket

01-25-15, 03:53 PM

Audition

If I didn't know better, it would've took me like half the movie to realize this was a horror. That's not a bad thing, but if someone were to blindly watch this, they may shut it off out of boredom. I wasn't personally bored, but of course I knew there was something more to it to come. So it starts out as a drama, and then it gets mysterious, and then it gets creepy, and then it gets weird. This is known as a pretty disturbing movie, and it is disturbing, but just a little bit I think. It's very well made with very good acting. I definitely enjoyed it, but I thought it got a little weird and messy with flashbacks and things like that. I'm glad I watched it, and I wanted to anyway. It's a good movie; I give it a strong 3

honeykid

01-25-15, 03:57 PM

I thought it was OK, if a little boring, until it got stupid at the end. Once she opened the bag, I remember barely anything else. :bored:

cricket

01-25-15, 04:00 PM

I thought it was OK, if a little boring, until it got stupid at the end. Once she opened the bag, I remember barely anything else. :bored:

That's pretty much where I am with it except I probably enjoyed it a little more.

Godoggo

01-25-15, 04:21 PM

I don't know what channel it would be for you guys or if you even get it, but there is a Vincent Price marathon January 31st on a channel called This. It's channel 4 out of Jacksonville, Florida.

I love Vincent Price and plan on watching. If you haven't seen much of him I'm sure they will be playing his more famous horror movies.

cricket

01-26-15, 08:28 AM

The Ring

When thinking about it, the whole premise of this movie is pretty ridiculous. Fortunately, the movie plays it straight, and well enough so that I don't think about it. *Having someone like Naomi Watts in the lead is a huge plus for a horror movie. Not only is she great to look at, but she's a terrific actress as well. The Ring is just really well done. It creates a tense atmosphere and remains creepy throughout. I think it's one of the best pure horrors of the last 20 years. 3.5

the samoan lawyer

01-26-15, 10:06 AM

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You're Next

I've mentioned before about my undying love for all things home invasion, so i was fairly confident I would like this. From Sorry, Wrong Number (1948) to Martyrs (2008) I've always had a soft spot for this sub genre. Mostly, You're Next does get it right. I found the film kept you guessing with who exactly the attackers were and why they were doing it. The gore and shock effects were well executed, which kept the tone quite serious (something which would prove important later on). The build up in tension was there too, with a few scare scenes and twists. The other thing i liked were the masks, for me these really added to the atmosphere. I loved the masks in The Strangers and although the animal masks didn't work quite as well, they still contributed to the fear factor. A few things that bothered me; some of the acting was indeed awful which at times proved quite hard to watch, also some of the scripting was poor which led to some scenes being over the top unrealistic. Finally, some of the deliberately funny parts really did not come across that funny.

Overall, as a horror it was a satisfying effort and was really good fun to watch. In my opinion You're Next is underseen and underrated.

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MovieMeditation

01-26-15, 10:29 AM

Looks like I'd rather jump into this again, it's been a while...

Tonight will probably be Audition or Dr. Phibes.

the samoan lawyer

01-27-15, 09:47 AM

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The Ring

This was a rewatch, although it was probably 10 years since I last watched it. I thought it actually holds up quite well to the original Japanese version, which I enjoyed. Cricket mentioned before and I totally agree, Naomi Watts was really good in this, again, good to look at and she puts in a great shift. Fair dues go to other members of the cast too, no complaints on any of the performances. It is well directed and contains a rather ominous tone throughout. What dis bother me about the movie was the need to show/explain so much on the plot.When it was explained at the end I think it made it much more confusing. For me, Ringu worked so well due to it's mysteriousness and ambiguity. Did we need to see so much of the tape? (which I thought was badly porttayed too)

Overall, I don't think it's scary or particularly frighening in any way but it's well made and a decent effort at remaking an immensely popular Japanese horror.

3.5

the samoan lawyer

01-28-15, 09:12 AM

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Audition

I am a fan of Takashi Miike and have enjoyed his films so far. Watching Audition, the first thing that struck me was the pacing of the film and how different it was to Miike's other work. Yes, it does build up to a disturbing climax but the films that i have seen from this director have all been fairly chaotic in pace throughout. I loved how it almost changes genre several times during the film, with tones of romance, comedy and of course, horror. A film like this is always going to divide opinion, with some finding it too violent, others will lament its slow, sometimes plodding unravelling, whilst the rest presumably will love it, like me.

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MovieMeditation

01-28-15, 10:37 AM

Horror Hall of Fame
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— 1999 —

Here is another one of those movies I have had laying on my watchlist for a long time, but since it is already filled up with hundreds of movies, I never got around to it. I actually even remember why I put it on there in the first place… I searched for great horror movies and somehow this kept popping up. Obviously I had heard of the director before, and it holds decent ratings with both critics and audiences alike. Now, after finally watching it I must say it was nothing of what I expected. It took many turns in multiple directions and you could never quite predict it, and I liked that aspect of it.

The first hour or so is nothing like a horror film. It doesn’t even hint at it, really, and when it gets a little creepy it mostly feel like a mystery thriller. As others have said it has a varied mix-up of genres going from comedy to drama and from thriller to horror… very interesting build-up indeed. It is defiantly a slower film but I was never bored with it, and I loved how the characters were fleshed out more in this one (some more than others if you know what I mean lol). But seriously though, I was more invested in the characters than your average horror flick, and it was actually a fun time to go from all the different aspects of it and finally ending up in this big nightmarish world at the end.

That brings me to the biggest change-up in the film, which is the “main attraction” so to speak: the actual horror. Miike has really gone for something far out when it comes to constructing the last act of the film. It is a bit confusing, but it leaves you with questions that you want to answer yourself, and there are plenty of different viewpoints to it. Also, the whole build-up with the protagonist loosing his wife and finally beginning to date again, and all the reflections and concern that you consider in the process, really makes for an interesting character-study. It is not as symbolic or tightly scripted as I wanted it to be, but it does the job well. You feel what is going on below the surface and you are pretty interested in all of what is happening.

I had heard the words “gross” and “macabre” often mentioned by fans of the movie and those who hated it as well. But I must say it wasn’t that bad at all. I fell upon some random critic describing the well-handled violence in the film as done by “a director who knows just when to cut” so that it stays pretty disturbing and slightly gross, but never downright sickening. And that is very true in my opinion… Overall in relation to the entire film, I wished it had an even tighter story, and that we dived further into the mind of the main characters, as well as all the backstory and general aspect of violence (and the thereto image of violence of which it creates)… but interesting and a fairly good time. I liked it more than I thought I would and less than I hoped I would.

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the samoan lawyer

01-28-15, 11:24 AM

Nice review MM, i pretty much had same thoughts as yourself, however I did rate it higher. I actually agree with your thinking that a backstory might have been beneficial, something that never really occurred to me before. Also, maybe slightly more about Asami's downward spiral could have worked? Maybe not, maybe i'm just nitpicking, either way, I really like it.

rauldc14

01-28-15, 10:52 PM

The Haunting
The overall concept of the movie was intriguing, I just believe that there were some lulls in the storyline as a whole. The characters weren't very interesting to me, however that doesn't ruin it as much since its a horror anyways. I really liked the unsettling atmosphere that the setting brought to the film. It makes you feel as if you are there. Both the beginning and especially the ending of the film were great. I especially liked how the characters sat and wondered what had just happened, with each of them having a different opinion to it. It was enjoyable, but I actually thought I would like it even more. Still so, better than a good chunk of the rest of these,

3

Swan

01-28-15, 10:56 PM

I thought you would like it more too.

Swan

01-29-15, 01:23 AM

Just rewatched Suspiria for the first time in years. Here's what I wrote about it in my Movie a Day thread.

Argento is one of my favorite directors. It kind of annoys me when people criticize his films as being style over substance. Style over substance shouldn't be a dirty word, err, phrase, people. I've talked about this before, but style over substance can work if that's the intent and is done well. I feel like Argento is one of the masters of style over substance. That's what his intent is, though. Would you criticize Evil Dead II for not being a serious drama, when that's obviously not what the director is going for? Same kind of thing.

Maybe it's just how my mind works, but I love stylistic movies (when done right). I think something like Amer is simply a pleasure to behold - it is cinema, through and through. Cinema runs through it's veins. There is nothing about it that can be confused with a book or a piece of music. It is a straight-up moving visual feast. And that movie was inspired by movies like Suspiria.

Suspiria isn't my favorite Argento - I much prefer his straight-up giallo flicks - but it's still a great movie. It has a lovable lead, a wonderful color palette and one of the best scores of all-time (while not Argento's best film, it is Argento and Goblin's best collaboration). I'm not sure why it doesn't stand out as his best for me, a lot of people like it more than I do and do see it as his best. Nonetheless, this is style over substance that works.

the samoan lawyer

01-29-15, 09:15 AM

rauldc14

01-29-15, 09:16 AM

I haven't seen The Innocents.

Again I would say I liked The Haunting but just didn't love it.

the samoan lawyer

01-29-15, 09:18 AM

I haven't seen The Innocents.

Well you should. I'm not sure if you'd like it based on what you thought of The Haunting but i'd be interested to know.

honeykid

01-29-15, 09:56 AM

I'm glad you liked The Haunting, raul. :) Like a few others, I actually thought you might like it a little more than you did. I should've known better, seeing as it's on my 100. :D

the samoan lawyer

01-29-15, 10:19 AM

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Nightwatch

Some suspenseful moments and it has a pretty promising start to the movie, although about 15mins in I realised I had already watched this before. THe acting was good from most of the cast and there were enough twists to keep me occupied...just. Comparisons with Saw and Se7en are wide off the mark, which is not necessarily a bad thing but with a comment like this, you at least expect some gore or shocking scenes, which never arrived. It was fairly obvious who the killer was and I really would have liked the 'mystery' to at least be revealed later in the film. All in all I didn't dislike Nightwatch but it could have been made so much better.

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Zotis

01-29-15, 05:45 PM

I watched Audition again a couple nights ago. I'll post my review probably tomorrow. Excellent review by the way MovieMeditation. I also caught a glimpse of the remake of The Possession at work. So I actually really want to watch that now.

Swan

01-29-15, 05:46 PM

There's a remake?

MovieMeditation

01-29-15, 06:20 PM

Great short and direct review there, the samoan lawyer! I had many of the same thoughts as you, and I think I ended up giving it the exact same rating as well! :)

the samoan lawyer

01-30-15, 08:43 AM

Great short and direct review there, the samoan lawyer! I had many of the same thoughts as you, and I think I ended up giving it the exact same rating as well! :)

Great minds MM ;)

Godoggo

01-30-15, 10:40 AM

Mistique has dropped out do to suddenly becoming very busy, so Nightwatch has now been pulled.

Thanks for letting us know, Mistique! Hope life settles down soon. :)

rauldc14

01-30-15, 10:45 AM

Now can we please not have any more dropouts? :)

Anyways, there's two films left for me. Suspiria and Audition. Having trouble tracking down Suspiria right now.

Godoggo

01-30-15, 10:53 AM

There are a ton of streaming links for Suspiria. One of them should work for you.

MovieMeditation

01-30-15, 12:08 PM

I don't want to start anything, but I must say it is kind of a bummer that I have already watched all of those nominations of the people who dropped out. Kind of annoying, but you know, non of us signed a contract in blood or anything before commiting... unfortunately . :D

But I am a little jealous of those who had yet to watch the dropped-out nominations and can just say "now I have 3 less movies to about..." Aarrgh! :(

Swan

01-30-15, 12:28 PM

Now I only have 3 movies to watch!

rauldc14

01-30-15, 12:29 PM

hello101

01-30-15, 12:31 PM

The Haunting
3.5
I've seen this before and it's a very good film of the haunted house genre. Though The Innocents is far superior, both would make for a swell back-to-back watch. The prologue still creeps me out, great voice over job.

Swan

01-30-15, 12:33 PM

The Haunting is equal to The Innocents, and don't ever let mark f tell you differently. :D

hello101

01-30-15, 12:39 PM

I can't agree with that, The Innocents is on my own top 100 and still remains one of the most deeply layered films I've seen. It goes past a simple ghost story.

MovieMeditation

01-30-15, 12:51 PM

Weird though how the dropouts are the ones I least looked forward to anyways. I'll still be getting to Hellraiser 1 and 2, but now I don't have to make it a priority.
I kind of agree, which makes it even worse that I actually sat through sh*t for nothing. :rolleyes:

Haha, but F that, I just pray that no one else will drop out now!

honeykid

01-30-15, 12:53 PM

I can't find my VHS copy of Nightwatch, and I can't remember anything about it, so I was going to have to buy it. Glad that I won't have to do it now,.

Hoping to get Dr. Phibes done tonight. Might have a crack at Possession, too.

MovieMeditation

01-30-15, 12:53 PM

And by the way... It is funny how The Haunting receives such mixed feelings from people around here. Either people praise the f*ck out of it or it just comes across as a "meh" experience.

Guess I will have to check it out soon for myself! :D

rauldc14

01-30-15, 12:56 PM

Possession strikes me as a film you would like, HK, if you haven't seen before.

mark f

01-30-15, 01:23 PM

The Haunting is equal to The Innocents, and don't ever let mark f tell you differently. :D
Hey, The Innocents wipes...

jiraffejustin

01-30-15, 06:38 PM

The Haunting is equal to The Innocents, and don't ever let mark f tell you differently. :D

Allow me to tell you differently: The Innocents wipes the floor with The Haunting. :D

cricket

01-30-15, 10:51 PM

I was having trouble finding Nightwatch but I'm sorry to see Mistique can't finish. That just leaves me with a rewatch of The Haunting.

Gatsby

01-30-15, 11:23 PM

Possession

This movie seems to split the HoF fame participants into :up: and :down:. I knew which side I would be on from the beginning, and my prediction was correct. Not that this is a bad film, I acknowledge it as a horror masterpiece but since it isn't my cup of tea the enjoyment didn't match the quality of the film itself. It's why I have The Abominable Dr. Phibes as my favourite so far (probably won't change) over plenty of other acclaimed others.

2.5

TheUsualSuspect

01-31-15, 12:25 AM

Another drop out? So what, we vote from like 3 films now? :p

jiraffejustin

01-31-15, 03:44 AM

I haven't posted a whole lot, but I am working my way through the nominations. When I finish them all, I'll share some thoughts.

I need to watch The Ring, A Tale of Two Sisters, Alyce Kills, You're Next, and Audition. After that, I would like to rewatch a couple.

This specialty hall of fame is fun, I think we should do more themed rounds like this. I have a few ideas, but I'll keep them to myself until a theme round is brought up again.

Zotis

01-31-15, 04:42 AM

I'm actually glad I own a copy of Suspiria now. I can watch it in good quality without having to stream it. :P Also... I still haven't gotten around to posting my Audition review, but I did already type it all up.

MovieMeditation

01-31-15, 06:56 AM

I'm currently missing four films, thank God. I actually thought it was more... The Haunting, The Abominable Dr. Phibes, Nosferatu the Vampire and Alyce Kills.

After that I will probably get around a few rewatches as well.

Zotis

01-31-15, 11:03 AM

January 31st

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Audition (1999) Horror/Drama
Directed by Takashi Miike
Starring Ryo Ishibashi, and Eihi Shiima
With a notable supporting role by Jun Kunimura

The last time I watched this was probably 2010. At the time I didn't notice any flaws, but this time around I did notice that some of the acting wasn't quite up to par, especially in the first half of the film. The weakest scene was probably the very first scene in the hospital. I think the strongest acting came from Eihi Shiima. Jun Kunimura did well also, and I've always liked him as an actor. But honestly if Takashi Miike was better at paying attention to detail this actually could have been a true masterpiece of a film. In Visitor Q I saw the mic pop into the shot in 3 different scenes. There wasn't anything like that in Audition, but Miike also did six other projects (movies, video, TV) in the same year.

Audition is an interesting horror film. It's not scary per-say, but it's certainly gruesome. The first 70 minutes feel like a proper drama with a good story albeit slightly boring content, but for the first watch at least it shouldn't feel boring. There just isn't enough impressive acting or subtlety to keep delving much deeper into the film after it's been watched two or three times. My first experience was also compounded at the time by my lack of familiarity with this style of film. So it was a very new experience for me back then. It expanded my perception of what kind of movies were out there in the world that I wasn't previously aware of, especially in the horror genre, and also in terms of realistic movies. Today, some years later, I am a little more aware, and as a result, less impressed. It's still a very solid film overall, but it's certainly not Miike's best.

The most interesting facets of Audition's story and plot come into full bloom around the 70 minute mark. At that point the backstory for Shiima's character, Asami Yamazaki, develops into the worst case scenario and then some. The movie's climax is the perfect delayed gratification for fans of the genre. At several points in the film there are interesting ambiguous scenes like dreams and flashes of insight. They serve to fill in some gaps at crucial moments and I think it works perfectly. The timing takes you out of what's happening, increasing the tension, and then brings you back for the clincher you were waiting for. It's like when your life flashes before you during a near death experience. You're taken out of it, time seems to slow, you gain insights, and then you get hurled back into it right before you're head hits the pavement so to speak. It's by far the strongest point in the plot structure of the film.

During the actual auditions, before the half-way point of the film, Kunimura's character asks the woman he's interviewing who her favorite actor is and what her favorite Tarkovsky film is. She replies with the name of some lame TV actor and both Kunimura and Ishibashi burst out laughing. I really loved that bit.

4I was actually surprised that I didn't like it a half star more. Examining it critically was a lot of fun though. I think the best Miike movie I've seen is Shinjuku Triad Society.

honeykid

02-02-15, 06:04 AM

The Abominable Dr. Phibes - 2 - It's OK. It did hurt it that I had to watch it on my computer (which I hate doing) so I don't feel that I watched it properly. I wasn't psyched to see it nominated for two reasons. Firstly, it's something I'd tried to watch before and not finished for some reason, I don't remember why, but it'd left me with a feeling that I wasn't particularly pleased with it and, secondly, because like The Night Stalker, I don't actually think it's of sufficient quality to warrant being up for HoF. That's just me, though and not something I held against the film. Considering some of the nominations, this could've well ended up in my top 6.

I think my biggest problem with it is that it's too silly, but not in a way I like. I'd recommend Theatre Of Blood to anyone who even remotely liked this as, not only do I think it's better, but it's silly and OTT in a way I did like. Though maybe that'd put others off. :D

I know all this sound pretty negative, but I do think the film is OK. Were I to watch it with my g/f and sat properly in front of the tv, I think that score would go up at least half a box, maybe more.

Sexy Celebrity

02-02-15, 06:32 AM

I kind of agree, which makes it even worse that I actually sat through sh*t for nothing. :rolleyes:

Haha, but F that, I just pray that no one else will drop out now!

Hey, the more people drop out, the better your chances of getting your own movie into the Hall of Fame.

Sexy Celebrity

02-02-15, 06:36 AM

Dr. Phibes wasn't anything spectacular at all. All of the characters were boring. I didn't care about any of them -- not even Dr. Phibes. I mean, I did kinda feel for the victims of Dr. Phibes -- I didn't think he should have been killing them all so brutally. But it was like watching animals you don't know being slaughtered -- you're horrified, you want them to live, but you don't know them personally.

Vincent Price also looked horrendous in it. It was gross and depressing and had no real life to it. Swan was being pretentious. He picked something a little more rare and unheard of instead of going with a better, safer bet.

honeykid

02-02-15, 06:56 AM

I wouldn't say this was rare or unheard of. There's also a couple of sequels, aren't there?

Sexy Celebrity

02-02-15, 07:01 AM

I wouldn't say this was rare or unheard of. There's also a couple of sequels, aren't there?

Rare and unheard of sequels.

honeykid

02-02-15, 07:01 AM

Yeah, but you hadn't heard of Kate Bush until about 2 years ago, either. :p:D

Sexy Celebrity

02-02-15, 07:22 AM

Yeah, but you hadn't heard of Kate Bush until about 2 years ago, either. :p:D

I'm very proud of that. I'd like to sue this place for damaging my life by introducing me to Kate Bush.

Swan

02-02-15, 08:31 AM

I was being pretentious? I picked a movie I loved from my childhood that I wanted people to see. It's not that unheard of, it's kind of a classic B-Movie. How the hell was I being pretentious?

Swan

02-02-15, 08:34 AM

I wouldn't say this was rare or unheard of. There's also a couple of sequels, aren't there?

Yeah, there is a sequel called Dr. Phibes Strikes Again, which is good too.

the samoan lawyer

02-02-15, 08:39 AM

Took a break from horror over the weekend there but back in tonight again with Nightstalker. Shame Possession isnt doing as well as I thought it would.

Godoggo

02-02-15, 09:36 AM

I was being pretentious? I picked a movie I loved from my childhood that I wanted people to see. It's not that unheard of, it's kind of a classic B-Movie. How the hell was I being pretentious?

You weren't. I sort of wonder if most people understand what the word pretentious even means.

I saw it as a child too and it was on TV just the other night. It's hardly obscure.

Sexy Celebrity

02-02-15, 05:41 PM

I was being pretentious? I picked a movie I loved from my childhood that I wanted people to see. It's not that unheard of, it's kind of a classic B-Movie. How the hell was I being pretentious?

Oh! Don't take everything I say so seriously all the time.

I just thought it seemed like kind of a pretentious choice because I personally had never heard of it and I found the movie to be rather ho-hum. And you're Swan! You should have picked something more well known and beloved, like Halloween! You could have won with Halloween! You made a mistake with Dr. Phibes. Sure, maybe you're just trying to introduce it to people, but come on. Stop this. You do this all the time -- just like in Song Tournaments. You always nominate the stupid stuff. Live a little and nominate the better stuff. Nominating Dr. Phibes just comes across to me as "posturing." Like, look at me -- I'm nominating this blah movie to show I know and like something different, something you may not have seen. But this is a contest and you're SWAN!!! Go with a winner! Stop choosing all these duds all the time! And yes, you do it all the time! I picked a loser for this contest but that's because I figured I probably wouldn't even stay during the whole duration and I didn't.