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mikeython1
06-03-14, 11:18 PM
Jose Abreu back to his old self. Hitting Home Runs like nobodys business! :highfive:
Brutal season for Tampa Bay. I started following baseball again in 2011, because I was doing so good in FBB. The Rays were a pitching juggernaut with a wiffle bat offense, and Longo was hurt most the year. 2012 Longos hurt again, 2013 we built an offense, but lost some in pitching.
Worse injuries in 2014, but now our pitchings slowly coming around (not 2011 level though), and were in a weird team slump, except for Loney & Desmo. Oy oy oy! Henderson Alvarez is good but trust me, he aint THAT good! We just suck that bad right now offensively, and I betcha Rubbby De La Rosa wont be looking so dominant his next start. Archer held them to one earned run, and we actually outhit the Marlins 8- 5 but we got this weird Idk....a run slump.
If we get whipped by Tom Koehler tonight.....
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I got new Toronto hotshot Marcus Stroman, and he is getting the start at home tonight
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2014/0307/mlb_a_marcus-smart_mb_576x324.jpg
vs St Louis :eek:
I made another dumb drop, was waiting and hoping he'd still be available when waivers cleared, but no.
So a big shout out to Mark on nabbing Josh Willingham :facepalm:
OK, so my offense has finally started hitting again and all my pitchers did well this week. Onward!
ScarletLion
06-06-14, 11:16 AM
Go Giants!
http://www.gannett-cdn.com/media/USATODAY/USATODAY/2012/10/25/pagan-salute-2012-10-25-x-large.jpg
Stroman.........Roarke......Stroman........Roarke............
rauldc14
06-06-14, 07:23 PM
Stroman.........Roarke......Stroman........Roarke............
Doesn't matter. Either will be cut in a day.
I would again remind you that "none of the above" is always an option. You don't have to run guys out there every day. Unless the idea isn't to win but just to have something riding on each evening.
I know, but it seems everytime I do sit someone they have a good game. In the beginning of the season I sat someone vs St Louis, and they had a great game. I ran them out there the next week vs a weaker opponent and they got shelled. So I run them out there regardless.
Damn experts. Every expert I ask says Stroman over Roarke, and so I ask them point blank if I should play Stroman vs St Louis, and they wont answer! Cowards. So I got to pretend now he didnt get squished when he pitched in relief because, I dont know, just because.
rauldc14
06-06-14, 07:48 PM
I know, but it seems everytime I do sit someone they have a good game. In the beginning of the season I sat someone vs St Louis, and they had a great game. I ran them out there the next week vs a weaker opponent and they got shelled. So I run them out there regardless.
Damn experts. Every expert I ask says Stroman over Roarke, and so I ask them point blank if I should play Stroman vs St Louis, and they wont answer! Cowards. So I got to pretend now he didnt get squished when he pitched in relief because, I dont know, just because.
If you haven't learned by now "the experts" opinion is about equal to anyone else's. Just sayin
I know, but it seems everytime I do sit someone they have a good game. In the beginning of the season I sat someone vs St Louis, and they had a great game. I ran them out there the next week vs a weaker opponent and they got shelled. So I run them out there regardless.
Not sure that's precisely the right lesson to draw from that experience. ;) It's not like it's more indicative of reality because it happened at the start of the season.
Anyway, this just sounds like simple confirmation bias. Remembering the times it bit you rather than the times you benched someone and they do badly. Especially if you don't usually bench them.
I had Stroman for a couple of weeks thinking they would start him, but they gave him only relief when they were behind, and he got bombed. I kept him, and he kept getting bombed in relief. He and A.J. Burnett are responsible for my ERA and WHIP being about .5 and .1 higher, respectively. I dumped them finally. Burnett's hernia has got to be affecting him. But Stroman I still have faith can be a good starter. I think psychology is big involving starters who relieve (as well as closers who come in when it's not a close situation), and I think it bothered Stroman. I would definitely put him out there if I had him. Otherwise I woudn't have him. If he gets bombed and they give him his next start, I'd use him again. It takes more than a bad outing or two to lose my faith. :)
Thanks guys I appreciate the help. I rolled Stroman out there. Now watch Kyle Lohse crush my era instead. :laugh:
Wow. Kyle Lohse has given up 6 earned runs to the Pirates..
http://wallyinc.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Augh.jpg
Kendrys Morales is back!!
http://baltimoresportsreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Kendrys_Morales.jpg
And I got him!!
http://simlb.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/kendrys-morales-ap2.jpg?w=600&h=409
And he'll probably be available on waivers in a week!!
http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Kendrys+Morales+aUUX3Z1NaP7m.jpg
:laugh:
May be out of last in both ERA and WHIP at the end of the day. It's a baby step, but man o' man will it feel good.
My pitching is on fire lately, and has been gobbling up ERA and WHIP points to get me back into the thick of it. I just need people like Gonzo to break out of their funk to get my offense back on track.
I shipped Joba, thinking I am just not going to land a third closer this month. Instead, I am streaming some starters, and I might just dump Gio, who is this year's Tim Lincecum. Now the guy can't even get a decent start going in Triple A...
An ode to Gio:
http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a528/SedaiMoFo/GioMoFo_zps847d8cf1.jpg?t=1402326306
Yeah I had a see saw weekend in the rankings. Alex Cobb getting torched by the Mariners :sick: for 7 earned runs obliterated my era & whip, and I lost 6.5 points. Then sunday Kershaw did Kershaw things, Kazmir did Kershaw things, and Chris Archer held his own vs King Felix....until Balfour crapped the game :mad: Hold that thought, so I ended up sunday gaining 8 points. If Stromans for real, and the Rays can get going, I feel good going forward.
Grant Balfour. I mean, we had Fernando Rodney, and 2012 he pitched a better season than anyone but 1 person in the history of baseball has ever accomplished. 2013 he came back down to earth, and we decide to spend. Spent 16 million on Balfour for 2 years, and Rodney goes to Seattle. Why not?! Balfour was one of the steadier closers the past few years,
but nooooooooooo he comes into the game all rah! rah!, but its all sizzle/no steak, has blown at least 5 games by himself, a LARGE era & whip, and just doesnt look good at all. I mean ever. So bad that nobody wants him on their FBB team, not even me! Now Fernando is looking good, and he's shooting the bow and arrow on us.
Yes! It is this bad! However bad we were in leaving runners in scoring position before, its even worse now. Joe Maddens even trying voodoo.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/slumping-rays-turn-seminole-medicine-174613092--mlb.html
Great. Cuddyer goes on the DL again and now Neil Walker is a late scratch for some unknown reason at this point. All of you!! Stop getting unhealthy!!!
rauldc14
06-09-14, 07:57 PM
Robinson Cano is batting .330! That's damn good. I'm just surprised he's only got 2 dingers this year though.
Lot of people predicted exactly that: based on 2013 he went from the 9th most friendly homer park to the 21st (and in 2012 it was 8th and 29th).
rauldc14
06-09-14, 08:03 PM
Lot of people predicted exactly that: based on 2013 he went from the 9th most friendly homer park to the 21st (and in 2012 it was 8th and 29th).
Oh, well I knew he wouldn't hit AS many. I just figured he'd still have like 8-10 at this point.
Well, actually, if he had 10 right now he'd be virtually on the same pace as last year.
But yeah, safe to say this is still less power than expected. ISO's been more than cut in half, and even with the average he's gotten a bit lucky with BABIP. Might be the combination of age (31 isn't old, but it's post-peak for almost every hitter) and park effects. But a quasi-rebound in the second half wouldn't shock me, given the guy's track record.
Powdered Water
06-09-14, 08:24 PM
I will be more than happy to stay in the basement if the Mariners can just stay relevant for about 2 more months. They've already gone about a month over their typical futility so technically... they are on a serious roll right now! Go M's!!!
rauldc14
06-09-14, 08:25 PM
Well Canos had a good year, but the Sky could be the limit in the second half if he stays healthy.
I will be more than happy to stay in the basement if the Mariners can just stay relevant for about 2 more months. They've already gone about a month over their typical futility so technically... they are on a serious roll right now! Go M's!!!
oh yeah go M's :sick: Losing todays game was a nail in the coffin for us. David Price vs Erasmo Ramirez?! AND WE WERE AT HOME!! That's just sick and wrong.
How does Seattle like Fernando Rodney as their closer?
....and Springer was scratched too with a sore knee. Awesome.
rauldc14
06-10-14, 12:05 AM
Lonnie Chisenhall has 9 RBI today, of all people.
Cuddyer and now Neil Walker on the DL.
Just heard word, congrats on Polanco getting called up tomorrow Yoda ;)
Aw yeah.
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/dam/assets/140425114951-pirates-prospect-gregory-polanco-next-big-thing-single-image-cut.jpg
St Louis is coming to Tampa Bay. Jake Odorizzi vs Adam Wainright, thats awesome, thats just great. I know Mike will make sure that pitchers slotted! :yup: Wouldnt be surprised whatsoever if Oscar Tavares rips a homer tonight too.
Polanco takes to the field at PNC for the first time.
https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/46ADAF99721088228848065478656_24dcd5a5ac6.0.3.802407121858312526.mp4?versionId=M6gDSwUZNwyoUEGT5udoy 7ntzdJCkVjm
rauldc14
06-11-14, 01:54 PM
If my team would quit pissing away all the progress it makes, i would be happy.
Whew! Springers not on the DL! Whew!
http://clawingmywaytothetop.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/kirk-relief.gif?w=520
So Im gonna say whats on everyones mind. That one thing that will possibly turn a fantasy team around for the good. Who is the Rays next closer? Will it be.....
http://www.kffl.com/images/media/jake-mcgee-391x213-20100919.jpg
...Jake McGee?! this lefties pitching stats dwarf all others on the Rays roster. He was incredible in 2012, fell off hard in 2013, and now appears to be his old 2012 self again in 2014. Yeah. The problem is Joe Madden is weird, and might not make him a closer on the one fact he's not a rightie.
http://metsmerizedonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/joel-peralta.jpg?c4e8ae
Will it be Joel Peralta?! Again? Yes he was our closer when Farnsworth went to the wayside in 2011, and has been a solid 8th inning guy for the past 2 years. Madden likes him alot too, buuut there are chinks in the armor. Peraltas lost some velocity, is older, and is just now repairing a horrible start to the season.
http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Juan+Carlos+Oviedo+_qnzKybj6p8m.jpg
Or is it Juan Carlos Oviedo?! Hes new to the team, is a rightie like Peralta, younger, faster, and has put up solid numbers. He like Peralta has been a closer before for a short time.
There is a fourth, and fifth choice in Cesar Ramos (bad #'s), or Brad Boxberger (good #'s but who?!). Following this team closely I can honestly say I wont be surprised whatsoever whoever it is because you never know what Maddens doing next. Actually I take that back, it has to be McGee! Because its the obvious choice! Madden picking the most obvious candidate would be the most unexpected move of all!
AH HA!
http://www.rankopedia.com/CandidatePix/76994.gif
.....and the closer was....Grant Balfour. :eek:
http://mustbethistalltoride.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/inconceivable.jpg
Tim Hudson leads the mother-flippin' majors in ERA (1.81), people. On pace for 17 wins, too.
But I've come to accept that he's just not new and exciting enough for anyone to actually give decent value for in a trade. So I suppose I'll just keep him to pull my ERA and WHIP down all year.
Hudson has been one of my favorite pitchers since his Oakland days. I got to go see him pitch in Atlanta two or three times and it was a joy. I usually end up with him because my heart makes me draft him a round or two early. So your welcome for auto drafting this year.;)
Hehe. Yeah, he's a bargain every year because guys like that are "boring," even though they're really productive. But obviously he's widely exceeded even his usual bargain price this year. Really remarkable.
http://www.quickmeme.com/img/7b/7b94f2f6d0b689fdf02943700451c726205f4b76e944f6cd6f2480250f7486f4.jpg
I got this guy going tonight...
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http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BK58U5iCQAEN_FS.jpg
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That awkward moment when Tongo realizes his "best pitcher in baseball" is the 41st ranked pitcher in baseball. ;)
Well, he was hurt.
By that metric, Hudson's ranked 6th. Anibal Sanchez is 45th. Deal? ;D
That awkward moment when Tongo realizes his "best pitcher in baseball" is the 41st ranked pitcher in baseball. ;)
What?! What?! Oh I gotta give big bold lettered Pfft! to that one :laugh: Though Clayton is going against the Diamonbacks tonight. They will make a lesser man tremble.
That feeling you get when your team is 0 for 15 at bats. :(
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/602392/whiff-o.gif
rauldc14
06-14-14, 03:28 PM
Looks like ive taken a bit of a hit recently. Down to 6th. Maybe i need to make some inquiries in the trade thread.
Less than half a dozen points separates 3rd and 6th, so I wouldn't pay much attention to being on either end of that range. It's the total that matters.
rauldc14
06-14-14, 07:14 PM
Dom Brown on my bench. Figures
rauldc14
06-14-14, 11:47 PM
Well, it was nice seeing you all at the top. Ernesto Frieri with an epic fail to push me even further down....
I almost always sit a pitcher his first start off the DL. Every so often that bites me in the butt like it did today.
Though Ive been only hovering around 9th place, I feel good about my team moving forward. Grabbed Stroman again since he cleared waivers. I probably wont start him @NYY, but that game will be a good measuring stick to see if hes really ready.
Colby Rasmus was playing some great ball before getting injured, and he should be back in a week"ish". Rasmus, Torii Hunter, and especially Corey Dickerson are great to fall back on if someones going thru a cold spell. Right now I feel as good about my offense as I did after the draft.
Oh geez, so Neil Walkers is a week removed from an appendectomy, and is already doing running drills. Now theyre saying hes gonna swing a bat tuesday, and may be activated when eligible. This so smells of "that guy" who has to be literally hospitalized to miss a game, comes back too soon, and the next thing you know his guts are coming out on the field :facepalm: I like him!
Cutch has 7 straight multi-hit games. What is that even possible how what.
rauldc14
06-15-14, 08:05 PM
Cmon Upton let's do something tonight
This video is way too cool, but unless youre familiar with the WWE wrestler Chris Jerichos entrance music it doesnt have the same effect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mai9Slb5qjM
The Baltimore Orioles are ranked 3rd in offense, both NL & AL, and they come tonight to Tropicana. Im pitching Jake Odorizzi against them, not out of homer delusion, but I think he will shut their stuff down. With Ryan Hannigan back catching, and calling Jakes pitches, oh yeah its on :yup:
Dan Haren did better vs Arizona than I thought he would, so I think he'll be a keeper. Ive 7 starters now, and thats one too many. Ill be dropping Archer (vs Houston), Odorizzi (vs Baltimore), or Stroman (@NYY). This week will determine which.
rauldc14
06-16-14, 12:49 PM
RIP Tony Gwynn
So sad.
rauldc14
06-16-14, 12:50 PM
The Baltimore Orioles are ranked 3rd in offense, both NL & AL, and they come tonight to Tropicana. Im pitching Jake Odorizzi against them, not out of homer delusion, but I think he will shut their stuff down. With Ryan Hannigan back catching, and calling Jakes pitches, oh yeah its on :yup:
Dan Haren did better vs Arizona than I thought he would, so I think he'll be a keeper. Ive 7 starters now, and thats one too many. Ill be dropping Archer (vs Houston), Odorizzi (vs Baltimore), or Stroman (@NYY). This week will determine which.
My crystal ball says Odorizzi, like you have 6 times before:D
Powdered Water
06-16-14, 01:05 PM
Hey, look at that. The Nine posted their first positive day in about two weeks. Showin some signs of life!
Indeed. Whereas up to this point they've been more like these Nine:
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120225164349/lotr/images/f/f6/Nine_Kings_of_Men.png
And hey, both groups chasing a ring. Nice.
^^^^ If you could have superemposed Russell Wilsons face on all 9 of them it'd be his team photo.
I'm pretty sure he's already going through life superimposing Russell WIlson's face on everybody anyway.
I was a huge Tony Gwynn fan. In a time when everyone was a homerun hitter he and Boggs stood out. I really wanted him to hit .400 one year, he took a couple of good runs at it.
This says it all:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BqRMwutCcAErdKn.png
I wasnt following baseball during his career, but age of early 50's is way too young to die. Just read he played his whole career with the Padres, choosing to stay rather than leaving for bigger paychecks elsewhere. This reminds me of my current fav player.
RIP Mr Gwynn.
rauldc14
06-16-14, 08:39 PM
I was doing really great for awhile. But my team has played terrible for 2 weeks. Probably killed any chances I had of a top 3 finish.
Found out today that Tony Gwynns career batting average was .338
.338 :eek: for his CAREER :eek: Whats even more surprising is hes tied with 2 other people (Jesse Burkett & Nap Lajoie, never heard of them) at 18th in the career batting average list. I thought with a BA like that hed be in the top 5 at least. Heck, Ty Cobbs #1 at .366.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/batting_avg_career.shtml
Most of the players above him probably played over a century ago. A lot of all-time marks from that era still stand, which is why you'll sometimes hear references to records in "the modern era," which is a bit more useful, since the game was dramatically different in 1890.
Two guys that I have watched play for a significant amount of time that I would want up with the game on the line. I mentioned them both earlier, Gwynn and Boggs. No two guys handled pitchers better. I love the quote Yoda posted earlier from Maddux. If I was going to pick an all time team based off guys I have watched. Gwynn would play RF and bat third. He is an all time great.
Powdered Water
06-17-14, 01:13 AM
ESPN is always so great when an athlete like this dies, they're running something right now as a matter of fact. Unbelievably informative. Hell of a ballplayer.
Ya'll should definitely read this article about Gwynn:
How Tony Gwynn Cracked Baseball's Code And Became A Legend (http://deadspin.com/how-tony-gwynn-cracked-baseballs-code-and-became-a-lege-1591491368).
Some quotes:
To know if he is swinging correctly, he counts the frames from when the pitcher lets go of the ball until his, Gwynn's, front shoulder "opens up"—turns to the right. Gwynn watches as the Cubs' Rick Sutcliffe releases the ball toward the Gwynn on the screen, and as the tape ticks along from frame to frame, Gwynn counts, "There's one... two... three... four... five... six... seven... eight... nine... ten... There," he says with satisfaction at the high count, "ten frames. That means I'm staying on the ball. I'm keeping my front shoulder in and staying back. If I open it up before then, I'm through, I'm out in front."
...his incredible averages against some of the most cerebral pitchers of his time—.444 against John Smoltz, .415 against Greg Maddux, .390 against Curt Schilling, .333 against Pedro Martinez, .303 against Tom Glavine—and assume that he was just outthinking them at the plate. (Unbelievable fact: in 366 plate appearances against those five, he struck out five times. Five.)
.415 against Greg Maddux
No other words necessary. Staggering.
My two pitchers getting the start today look like theyre walking into a haunted house. Lohse @ Ari, and Stroman @ NYY (Masahiro Tanaka).
oy!
Today my offense is going up against Darvish, 2 Cueto matchups, Tanaka, Roarke, Grienke, and Keuchel :facepalm:
Business is not about to pick up :nope:
Damn, just missed changing out my OF for a sub by a few minutes...in the ONE afternoon game I have a guy playing in.
Har!!
rauldc14
06-18-14, 01:45 AM
My crystal ball says Odorizzi, like you have 6 times before:D
This game is too easy
http://semlalie.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/goodfellas-laugh-gif2.gif?w=700&h=394
Well my slick attempt to pad my catchers slot with both A's catchers, making it impossible to lose out with the super Norris/Jaso combo. Jaso goes 2/3 with a run, yay, and then Norris comes off the bench to go 2/2 with a 3 run homer on one hit and an additional 2 rbi on the other. On my bench! Sadly there is no smiley that conveys the emotion of an icepick to the balls.
"Neil Walker underwent an appendectomy just eight days ago, but he's been cleared to accelerate workouts and indicated Tuesday that he probably could return sooner if he were allowed. "I'm gonna go crazy in the dugout. I'm gonna take batting practice and grounders," Walker said. "Not that it's gonna do any good. I've got to wait the full 15 days [DL time]."
Wow :eek: If it were even possible, I think he's gonna be more focused and determined after this.
So far Clayton Kershaw is throwing a perfect game going into the 6th at home vs Colorado. Dont know if thats too soon to speculate anything or not, but I wont be awake to see it thru.
rauldc14
06-19-14, 01:05 AM
Ah but 2 more at bats for Tulowitzki. He will get a hit mark my words
http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/229/files/2014/06/clayton-kershaw-mlb-colorado-rockies-los-angeles-dodgers2.jpg
Congrats to Kershaw throwing a no hitter vs the Rockies. 15 K's too :eek: Allowed his only baserunner on a throwing error, or it would have been a perfect game.
"Kershaw (7-2) quite simply delivered one of the best pitching performances in the history of baseball, as his 102 Game Score was the second-highest ever (https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/479490957583204352) in a nine-inning performance, per Yahoo! Sports. The only blemish preventing the ace from notching a perfect game was a seventh-inning error by shortstop Hanley Ramirez."
http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasybaseball/players/playerpage/1221725/clayton-kershaw
Nice. :up: That Kershaw kid might have a future in this league.
But now we'll never know how many times you'd have typed "FACK" if you'd traded him just before it.
Some more interesting facts about the no-no last night. First heres a short video that shows all 27 outs called by Vin Scully...
http://m.dodgers.mlb.com/lad/video/v33848827/?partnerId=as_lad_20140619_26290226
Kershaw needed only 107 pitches to complete his 15-K gem, which is silly. That's the most Ks without a walk of any no-no in MLB history. (Sandy Koufax and Matt Cain each fanned 14 in perfect games; Kerry Wood and Pedro Martinez threw no-walk one-hitters in which they struck out 20 and 17 respectively.)
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/fantasy-roto-arcade/closing-time--clayton-kershaw-spins-an-all-time-gem--no-hits-rockies-151007653.html
Oy! Yahoo now has how long someones been in the league under your name on the team page now. It says Ive been in since 2010, but I was in the original 2009 season too! Oy!
A picture of the Tony Gwynn statue at Petco Park
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bqh8IIkCUAA0jdz.jpg
Oh, Brandon...
Brandon Phillips vs The Drunk Guy (http://deadspin.com/dear-drunk-guy-brandon-phillips-gives-signed-ball-to-1593836319?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_facebook&utm_source=deadspin_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow)
I feel like you could've told me the story and I could've guessed which player did it. He's also made accusations of racism because he thought someone called him "Boy," and cursed out a reporter for suggesting his OBP was too low to have him hitting near the top of the order.
Stay classy, Brandon.
rauldc14
06-21-14, 12:12 AM
Edwin Encarnacion is in my opinion the best player in baseball.
Gonna give Vargas another spot-start. Good matchup vs the Mariners in KC. He seems to do well unless someone grabs him off waivers. Its like this waiver mirage that wont go away. Oh damn youze Jason Vargas!
http://binaryapi.ap.org/0926d40cdcb04856b83445beb951168f/460x.jpg
(That was a preemptive scolding just in case.)
Edwin Encarnacion is in my opinion the best player in baseball.
I really love that thing where I go to bed and he's already hit a homer...and then I check in the morning and it turns out he hit another late. I think that's happened like four times, including last night.
rauldc14
06-21-14, 01:16 PM
I really love that thing where I go to bed and he's already hit a homer...and then I check in the morning and it turns out he hit another late. I think that's happened like four times, including last night.
Yeah I had him last year. I know the feeling for sure.
This is why I like Torii Hunter...
Hunter ran on the field Friday night and took batting practice. He plans on ramping up his running Saturday and could pinch-hit, but will likely not start again until at least Tuesday in Texas. And if replacement J.D. Martinez continues to rake, his playing time might be cut. Hunter would certainly understand that, though both can be considered starting outfielders at this point if Rajai Davis is not.
"Play the hot hand," Hunter told MLB.com after Martinez slugged a critical three-run homer Friday night to help beat Cleveland. "If it's going to bring a ring, you keep that sucker in there. It's no big deal. Seen it. Done it. Been there. I'm about winning. Even when I come back, hopefully he stays in there. Keep him in there, keep him hot. ... If I was the manager, what's what I would do."
:up:
Oh yeah, and screw you Jason Vargas! You almost tricked me, but Im not gonna let you sidewinder my era again sucka'!
hmph
Is StatTracker messed up for others too?
rauldc14
06-21-14, 06:22 PM
My team has played pathetic for literally 2 weeks. I'm done for.
Is StatTracker messed up for others too?
No problem on my end though Ive had problems in the past. Itll freeze up on some games while still keeping track of others. Then after a long while it will start running the plays that took place in rapid pace till it corrects itself.
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Jose Reyes took a ball of his leg and hes pulled. Aw hell....those legs are made of china!!
Polanco.....Springer....Polanco.....Springer....
So Ive got the 2 hottest prospects this season, and cant decide which to play. George Springer has explosive power, but explosive means hes real quiet for long stretches in between. Gregory Polanco however has had numerous multi hit games, and brings in Runs effortlessly. One homer, and no SBs oddly enough. They both were supposed to be great bag stealers in the minors.....
Ha! I got it! Ill play Springer cause I can watch him on tv today vs the Rays. :facepalm:
rauldc14
06-22-14, 01:35 PM
I'm putting a prediction curse on my team today: 11 runs 5 HR 14 RBI 3 steals and a .320 average. And a gems from Cueto and Lester.
rauldc14
06-23-14, 12:24 PM
I'm putting a prediction curse on my team today: 11 runs 5 HR 14 RBI 3 steals and a .320 average. And a gems from Cueto and Lester.
Did I say Sunday? I meant today.
The Pirates are coming to Tropicana Field! I think this is a first. Cobb, Archer, and Price await :)
http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/21/files/2014/04/david-price-matt-moore-chris-archer-alex-cobb-mlb-toronto-blue-jays-tampa-bay-rays.jpg
oh man i hope we can hit the ball
These days the concern goes the other way: our pitching is wracked by injuries and we're relying on lots of mediocre starter options, but our offense has been really good.
Interesting thing of note. I have 4 pitchers going tomorrow, and 3 closers. Every slot is full and active baby!
Kazmir @ NYM :)
Archer vs Pit :indifferent: I like Arch but the Pirates have the #1 offense in June.
Hudson vs Padres :) or :indifferent: Gotta worry about Jesse Hahn. Trust Giants bats more.
Arrieta vs Cin :( Are the Cubs able to back Jake vs Homer Bailey?
Should be a significant jump or drop for me either way tomorrow. Am scared.
Its always a bad sign when the Rays announcers are gooshing over the opposition. "Oh those Pirates are looking energetic, and having a good time". "Oh the Rays are gonna have to wake up to beat this squad." :sick:
3rd inning Pirates up 6-1.
rauldc14
06-24-14, 11:18 AM
The Big 3! (Disappointments)
Brian McCann
Manny Machado
Ben Zobrist
This season has become depressing for me yet again. I've two players at the top of their game with no support at all.
Found LaRoche on waivers... what gives? I need the average and one of my UTIL just went to the DL yesterday. Thanks!
Found LaRoche on waivers... what gives? I need the average and one of my UTIL just went to the DL yesterday. Thanks!
Your welcome. Adam had a long spell with no power, so I got Rizzo. I also decided to give CJ Cron a try as hes now getting regular playing time, and is hitting for power at a more steady clip. Seems like more upside in power than LaRoche.
LaRoche is another one of those guys that nobody gets excited about but can still put up decent numbers.
LaRoche, Aramis Ramirez, Alex Gordon, the Bobby Abreus and Raul Inbanezs of a few years ago. Nobody gets worked up for .280, 20 homers and 80 RBIs, but those guys are fundamental building blocks of winning Roto teams.
High school girl throws knuckleballs to the Rays...
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/rays-take-batting-practice-against-teenage--knuckleball-princess-004850364.html
Powdered Water
06-24-14, 05:13 PM
Drop Jake Arrieta? Seems like he'd be worth rolling out at least once more. But what do I know? I do know I'm out of the cellar. I know that. Yes I do.
Drop Jake Arrieta? Seems like he'd be worth rolling out at least once more. But what do I know? I do know I'm out of the cellar. I know that. Yes I do.
Had to grab Stroman instead. Hes proven himself a weekly starter this past month, and has doubled Arrietas win total for the season, in just a month. Jeff Samarzijida has the same problem. The only pitcher I want to worry about in a matchup because of poor run offense is Archer.
....and out of nowhere Scott Kazmir gets rung up by the New York Mets for 7 earned.
http://tctechcrunch2011.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/kick_to_balls.jpg
Powdered Water
06-24-14, 09:58 PM
Had to grab Stroman instead. Hes proven himself a weekly starter this past month, and has doubled Arrietas win total for the season, in just a month. Jeff Samarzijida has the same problem. The only pitcher I want to worry about in a matchup because of poor run offense is Archer.
Your words are like riddles, man. Arrieta has been virtually un-hittable the last few outings. You do want you want my brother. :)
Your words are like riddles, man. Arrieta has been virtually un-hittable the last few outings. You do want you want my brother. :)
http://gamedayr.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/hulk-hogan-needed-help-ripping-shirts.jpg
"Well let me solve the riddle for ya brutha'!" :)
Arrieta has 3 wins in 50 innings. Samardzija has 2 wins in 103 innings (criminal).
Stroman has 4 wins in just 36 innings.
He'll and up with alot more wins than Arrieta because the Blue Jays have an incredible offense.
Brutal. We almost came back to win it in the 9th, 2 on base, 4-5, Longorias up who hit a homer earlier, and he pops out.
Chris Archer came out with a fat lip, but Scott Kazmir got brutalized. Hope Tim Hudson can do a lil era repair tonight before he goes to Mudville.
Yes I see Arrietas Cubs are winning tonight, 6th inning so far 2-0. Stupid Reds.
Springer hits a dinger on my bench. I hate benches.
Well after my latest waiver meltdown I actually grabbed a gem, and Tim Lincecum threw a no-hitter vs the Padres today. Thank you Timmy!!! :)
http://padresteve.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/201307140102037221755.jpeg
Well thats different. The Angels and Pirates have traded closers. Pittsburgh now has Ernesto Frieri, and Los Angeles has Jason Grilli. If I had to guess, I think Pittsburgh won out. Frieris done it longer, and they do have a knack now for knocking out some kinks in pitchers.
Hahahahahaha.
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2014_06_27_nynmlb_pitmlb_1&mode=video
I was watching this live and I let out a ridiculous high-pitched shriek of a laugh when it happened.
Ive been see-sawing like a hyper kid with air nikes in the rankings. Jumping and dropping 2.5 to 5 points at a time.
http://www.baltimorenewsjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Nolan-Reimold.jpg
Heres a guy Ive kept my eye on the past 2 years, Nolan Reimold. He missed the 2012 season with neck surgery. The surgery was unsuccessful, and he missed the 2013 season with his 2nd neck surgery. Now hes healthy and might even be activated by the Orioles today. -fingers crossed smiley-
Gah! After all this time, and now that he's finally healthy, Reimold might be kicked to waivers by Baltimore. The bright side is if he is it would be a team that would need him desperately (Rays) and he would probably bat higher in the order than if the Orioles kept him. Yeah. None of you care anything about this do you? :laugh:
We are at the halfway point to the season. Looking back on draft day Id have to say this has been one of the more unexpected first halves since the league began.
Was gonna play Joyce tonight, but Oscar Tavares is getting called up again. Hopefully he'll do better this time around. Now Im trying to justify dropping Duda for Loney or Joyce......
Good news for Mudville Nine as Bryce Harpers activated off the DL today. :up:
http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Bryce+Harper+Washington+Nationals+v+Atlanta+1UaInvFzjjXl.jpg
In case you forgot what he looked like. :)
Powdered Water
07-01-14, 11:48 PM
The Mariners are starting to put the wood to the ball! Me likey!!!
The Mariners are starting to put the wood to the ball! Me likey!!!
The Rays are too! Me likey too!!!
As for Fantasy Baseball.....well Im just not feeling that championship vibe with my team right now :rolleyes:
Powdered Water
07-02-14, 01:46 PM
The Rays are too! Me likey too!!!
As for Fantasy Baseball.....well Im just not feeling that championship vibe with my team right now :rolleyes:
It's funny, I'm having a terrible year. But I still just love my team. I may not be able to climb up to the top three, but I don't think the Nine will finish in the basement either. Still a long way to go and only 45 back. Things are actually pretty close in this league in a lot of categories.
It's funny, I'm having a terrible year. But I still just love my team. I may not be able to climb up to the top three, but I don't think the Nine will finish in the basement either. Still a long way to go and only 45 back. Things are actually pretty close in this league in a lot of categories.
I hope theres some hope left for us bottom feeders. Yknow what they say, after the All-Star break its a brand new day! :) Saw you dropped Desmond Jennings. I cant blame you. He's so capable of playing at a higher level yet never really emerged.
Rays played the Orioles @ Baltimore in 4 game series, and went 3-1, we went to New York and swept the Yankees 3-0. Things are changing. Oh yeah.......
At home this season, Tim Lincecum has a 2.81 ERA and 1.11 WHIP. On the road, he’s posted a 6.68 ERA and 1.67 WHIP. Meanwhile, teammate Madison Bumgarner has a 4.94 ERA and 1.50 WHIP at home compared to a 1.32 ERA and 0.91 WHIP on the road. Go figure :confused:
rauldc14
07-04-14, 12:56 AM
Bye bye Ernesto. You're not a closer, but you've clearly killed me.
Closers are just pure crap these days though. All the "closers" or ex closers on my team used to be top notch relievers. Now they are all laughingstocks.
Cutch falls 10 feet short of the cycle with a fly off the wall.
It's nice having a player so insanely good that we're disappointed when he hits a double.
Went 4-1 in Baltimore, 3-0 At NYY, and then got crushed last night by Detroit 8-1, and it looked worse than the score. Rays are taking it to the Tigers tonight winning 6-3 in the bottom of the 7th. Maddons already been ejected so its all on the line. We got to get this win, and win tomorrow to keep the mental makeup of our team now. After all, we still want to go to the world series :yup:
...and how bout that Jose Abreu! Hit his 27th homer to lead all the majors, and he did it with less at bats than Encarnacion or Nelson Cruz. I like Jose Abreu. :)
After all, we still want to go to the world series :yup:
At 39-50? :skeptical:
At 39-50? :skeptical:
:laugh: Why not! We lost waaaaay more games than we should have. Makes sense if we win more than normal for a long stretch, and next thing you know were in the playoffs. A real long stretch that is.
Oh boy! Adams' Jeff Samardzija and Mikes' Jason Hammels stock just went sky high.
According to a report from FOX Sports' Ken Rosenthal, the Athletics have acquired pitchers Jeff Samardzija and Jason Hammel from the Cubs for shortstop prospect Addison Russell. According to ESPN's Keith Law, the Cubs will receive outfielder Billy McKinney, pitcher Dan Straily and a player to be named later.
What were the Cubs thinking?! :eek: :facepalm: Watch out for the A's oh man....
Claytn Kershaw went into Colorado and shut them down 9-0.
He is the best there is.
I dont think Josh Beckett will pull that trick off tomorrow.
Yeah, best in the game, and best in fantasy too. Which aren't always the same thing.
I noticed before this start that he had a bit of a scoreless innings streak going. It's up over 36 now. He'll be into pretty rarefied air with one more good one, and the record talk'll be near a fever pitch if he can go two more.
Edwin Encarnacion just blew out his hamstring and had to be helped off the field.
:facepalm:
We'll have to wait and see--it might not be as bad as all that. First blush doesn't look great, though. Tough break. Hopefully it isn't too bad.
rauldc14
07-05-14, 11:59 PM
Heartbreak city. That's my favorite player other than Stanton.
I didnt make it past the 2nd day with EE & Abreu on my squad together. It was just too much awesome to be allowed. Real brutal break for Edwin though as a career year was a given. Damn hammy.
rauldc14
07-06-14, 12:09 AM
also last year was a career year for him but it ended early because of injury as well
http://i.imgur.com/mGZgvOD.png
Might end up having to get Freese still but drop Harrison if they take away from his playing time.
rauldc14
07-06-14, 06:48 PM
And then drop Freeze and add Harrison. And then drop Harrison and add Fransisco. And drop Odorizzi and pick him up again.
Toronto's saying its a strained right quad, but wont say how long he'll be out. Well thats good, or at least better than what it was sounding like at first.
Now theyre saying 2-4 weeks but more may come out in the next few days.......
-fingers & toes crossed-
MOOSE!!!
http://www.hutchpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/mike-moustakas-getty2.jpg
Charlie Morton is a keeper.
That is all.
rauldc14
07-08-14, 11:34 PM
Tulowitzki 2 rbis in past 22 games :facepalm:
Got some intriguing starts today. Marcus Stroman @ LAA, and hes been strong solid since being made a starter. Rubby De La Rosa at home vs the White Sox. hes been a solid startiing option for Boston too, I hope he rocks i, and they DONT SEND HIM DOWN AGAIN! Agh! Why Boston thinks theres no room for improvement in their rotation boggles me. Not that I care, just a FBB perspective :D
Were coming playoffs. Were coming. :yup:
AJ Pierzynski DFA's by the Red Sox
whoa
Im finding that more and more Mets are making their way to my roster. That sounds scary, but theyre earning. Whats weirder is the only Ray I have is Jake Odorizzi. Only one Ray. :eek: -shudders!-
See a bunch of hurdles in front of me. The first one is Mikes Clockwork Angels, the second is Chris's Freedonia Ducks, the third is Dustins Peanuts&Crackerjacks or Mikeys Done & Dunn depending on the day, and then Tims Coinskins&Banknotes. Then the real challenge will begin nudging past Adam & Mark.
3 months to gain 30 points?
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/images/photos/001/438/921/LetsGetItOn_original_crop_650x440.jpg?1320957602
Nothing official yet, but Mashiro Tanaka could be done for the year with Tommy John surgery possibly.
Well, there's the streak. Kershaw was absolutely cruising (just two hits in 5.2 IP and he'd struck out the previous two batters swinging), and then Headley homers, ending the streak at just shy of 42 innings. Pretty fantastic.
Whew! Kolten Wong has emerged big time. He just his 5th homer tonight in the last six games batting over .300 and two stolen bags. Think Im gonna keep Mr Wong a rong time.
Or the week after the All-Star Game. :)
What's the difference between someone having a good week and someone "emerging," and how do we know the difference?
Yes, this is a rhetorical question.
Finally! Finally! After 2 months or more where I was dead last in home runs, Ive finally gotten out of the cellar.
Great joy.
Andrew McCutchen is ridiculous. Ridiculous.
We Pirates fans are just so wildly fortunate to get to watch him play.
This man is so sick. Bucs blow a 4-run lead for the second straight night. They've played great baseball for two months but just keep managing to lose games against division opponents, often in agonizing fashion.
And Andrew McCutchen just single-handedly saves the game.
Game-tying home run in the ninth.
Game-winning home run in the eleventh.
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2014_07_12_pitmlb_cinmlb_1&mode=recap_away&c_id=pit#/play?content_id=34542095
Powdered Water
07-13-14, 02:43 PM
Andrew McCutchen is ridiculous. Ridiculous.
We Pirates fans are just so wildly fortunate to get to watch him play.
Right? I love that stuff. Watching the sweet swing (and it really was a sweet swing) of Ken Griffey Jr. for many years really helped expand my appreciation for the game. As I'm sure it will do for you in the long term.
As soon as I saw you'd replied I thought "I'll bet a Griffey comparison is coming." Yeah, that's exactly who I think of when I think of the "lucky to watch him" thing. I was a good bit younger then, but he was hitting his peak just about the time I was starting to fall in love with baseball.
It's a different feeling watching these kinds of guys, isn't it? You watch a guy like Albert Pujols or Frank Thomas and you're impressed, but there's a workmanlike quality to it. It's easy to imagine them just pounding away in the batting cage and becoming great hitters through force of will. But guys like Griffey and Cutch are fun, because they excel in all facets of the game. It seems less like something they chose to do, and more like something that chose them.
I don't think we're the first to notice this, either:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/p280x280/65964_548714581920668_7915128441373418445_n.png
The whole multi-decade losing streak thing lifts it all to another level, too. Because not only were we daydreaming about winning again, but we were daydreaming about which young draftee (I still remember the day he was taken) will lead the charge. It's so surreal to think about that for, like, 15 years, and then to have it happen, and to realize it's happening while it does, and then to think you might not see it again for decades.
Powdered Water
07-14-14, 01:14 AM
It's funny because the M's were pretty terrible before Griffey too, so its cool you're getting to experience a bit of both worlds. Not just watch a great player. But getting to see him get at bats in important situations and then when he invariably comes through the legend grows and can become anything. I almost don't have words. I will never forget Griffey in 95. No one got around the bases faster than he has like, ever. No one. I can't find a good video of it because it was so long ago, but it was so surreal when it happened. You get feelings from this game you get from none other. It's a cool sport.
Please keep going on with your rapport. I just wanted to comment on how silly good the HD quality slow-mo is for baseball. RA Dickeys knuckleball was coming in so slow today you could see the ball turn just twice, and this is the good part, on the close up read the Rawlings logo on the ball.
Im liking instant replay alot more than I thought I would. Guess I was already desensitized by football.
Yeah, '95 was pretty much exactly when I got into it all. Divisional series against the Yankees, right? Down 0-2, coming all the way back, ending as Griffey scores from 1st on an Edgar Martinez double, if I remember correctly. And then his entire team dogpiles him (like really dogpiles him) while his helmet flies off and a look of absolutely childlike joy is on his face. Yeah, I was watching that one live. I think a part of me wanted to see what that would be like, even with another team. That was a great moment.
Here it is:
http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/10728310/v3850040/griffey-slides-home-to-clinch-the-alds-in-1995
I forgot it was in the 11th, to boot.
And ha, the entire game is on YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr0OFs1HQ7U
I love that Cutch does stuff like this:
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Powdered Water
07-14-14, 08:06 PM
Yeah, I found the whole game too. The shortest clip I could find was about 7 minutes and it wasn't that good. The Double, as we call it here was certainly terrific but honestly we as fans had already just about had our heart attack two innings before when Randy Johnson came in to close out the game. There was literally not a single person in Seattle that wasn';t screaming when that lanky sum bitch came walkin' in. What a game that was..
rauldc14
07-14-14, 10:56 PM
Giancarlo Stanton just hit a projected home run of 510 feet! Crazy good.
rauldc14
07-15-14, 12:16 AM
And then Hits 0 in the semis.
:facepalm:
I watched only a little bit of the home run derby last night, but was able to see Giancarlo Santon hit. LOL! Everyone was just giddy waiting for him to come up to bat. When he nailed that ball to the top tier in the top row (yup that close to going out of the stadium) the whole place fell apart. McCutchens face was a shocked smile, then he grabbed Dee Gordon while they were both laughing hysterically.
Think I told this story before but I was reading in S.I. when he was playing in the minors he hit a line drive that hit the left field wall. He hit it, it never dropped to hit the ground, didnt go up, and nailed the wall like a laser. Never seen done before or since.
dayum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HN3WYGgz2I
Those foot projections are always so goofy. I read this morning the longest confirmed hit was only 451 feet, and wasn't even the Stanton one in question, or something? Dunno, didn't watch. This was more enjoyable to me than the actual game when I was a kid, but these days I only watch if a Pirate's involved.
Speaking of which, I'll definitely be watching at least some of it tonight, with Cutch leading off for the NL.
Im already ready for baseball to get started again. The Rays go into the next 11 games needing to go 9-2 to even have a shot at the playoffs.
Double down the line. I love it. I know they groove it for these guys but it still awesome to watch.
http://i.imgur.com/0KehS1Q.png
Could you imagine if I was general manager of an actual team? The players would all live out their suitcases no matter if they were rookies or stars or even at home. I think, I think, I have 2 moves left and should soon be done.
Already sick of this downtime - bring on the games!!
Oy. I need 26-30 points in 60 some games. I dont know if its possible. I cant think or foresee another trade or group of moves that would help me though. Gotta let this crew now take wing and fly.
Oh I sooo hope Encarnacion comes back in the 15 day minimum just to DH. Grade 2 sprain, Im relieved it wasnt worse, and initial reports it sounded WAY worse. Even with all these "stars" its a sizable amount of points in a short time.
If its not Adam or Mark that win this thing this year then it will definitely be considered an upset. If Mikeys team from last year was any indicator in Roto, dominance from the beginning is usually a constant criteria for victory. :laugh: Thats Roto though! No frills, no comebacks, no flukes. Just plain point totals from all players added up and compared. Done.
One last bit of randomness. After all the times Ive had, dropped, and regrabbed him, if James Paxton comes back and gets blown up for 8-9 earned his first game Ill bang my head on the table :yup:
Powdered Water
07-16-14, 10:30 PM
No game till Friday? Must be rough having a day job!
Tacitus
07-17-14, 05:25 PM
Hello?
*ahem* I come to this strange land bearing gifts. I mean no harm.
Basically, Out Of The Park Baseball 2014 is yours for (at least) $1 in the Humble weekly sale. Some of you regular basers might dig it - If it's anything like Football Manager expect crack and heroin rolled into one. I believe that's called a curveball. ;)
For those of you not familiar with Humble, it's a legit site and a percentage of each sale goes to charity, in this case the Electronic Frontier Foundation (whatever that is) and the American Red Cross.
Link (https://www.humblebundle.com/weekly)
Erm ... Lets baseball! Yeah. :blush:
Powdered Water
07-20-14, 01:05 PM
I'm having a rather repugnant year. :mad: Just can't seem to find any real traction this season.
Well I think I made a great waiver grab, and its a grab a few of us made this year hoping he'd break out... "After going 0 for 9 in his first two games at leadoff, Austin Jackson has hit .386 (22 of 57) with a .429 on-base percentage over his last 14 games.
He went 2 for 3 with a double and a walk in Sunday's 5-1 win.
"It really wasn’t something that was hard for me to do, just because I’ve been in that position before and it’s something about getting the offense started," Jackson told the paper. "You have a different mindset and you’re more aggressive. It’s a mental thing that I really enjoy."
Hopefully this will ease any possible pains from losing Polanco.
Finally, Cliff Lee's back.
Should be a lot of fun running Kershaw and Lee out there the rest of the year.
Finally, Cliff Lee's back.
Should be a lot of fun running Kershaw and Lee out there the rest of the year.
Not as fun as Zimmerman and Kuroda.:sick:
rauldc14
07-21-14, 08:24 PM
Not as fun as Cueto and Lester :)
Oh, come now. You'd make that trade in a heartbeat.
Not that I'd ever offer it.
Not as fun as Beckett and....uh, yeah.
Report: Edwin Encarnacion might be back next week
http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasybaseball/players/playerpage/392294/edwin-encarnacion
http://www.netanimations.net/Moving-animated-picture-of-dancing-fools.gif
My season has come down to just trying to crawl into the top half of the standings. Injuries will probably prevent even that pathetic goal from happening. Brutal!
Have you guys seen the new feature on the Yahoo teampage!? Its awesome, Look at your players, click the symbol to the left of the normal info box, and you get video highlights on all your team.
Powdered Water
07-24-14, 11:29 PM
Will that make my team better?
Will that make my team better?
:laugh: No, but it does make everything better. I feel you on this as Im a bottom half tredder too this year. I would love to surge the rest of the season, I dont have to win, just something, anything!
Banknotes Harper
07-27-14, 03:42 PM
After years in the league, today is the day that I, Tim/Suicide Squeeze/Banknotes Harper, made an account on here. It's been long overdue, I'd say.
But why today? Well, I'm glad I asked.
I'd like to make the case to vote down the CarGo for David Price trade because I think it's terribly lopsided. By ranking, Price is the 20th best player in our league and CarGo sits at 336th, sandwiched between David Murphy and Eric Young. It's important to note that the rankings aren't going to be kind to CarGo since he missed about 40 games. That said, he's still been a below-average hitter in the games that he's actually played in - pretty much across the board, but the advance stats, in particular, aren't kind to him. The rest of the way, FanGraphs projects him to bounce back and accrue 9 HR, 25 R, 28 RBI, 6 SB, and hit .277, which is pretty good over 40+ games.
David Price, on the other hand, projects to continue his elite season and they expect him to continue throwing 3.00 ERA ball over his final 11ish starts.
I think there's a case to be made for the trade - CarGo can surely bounce back - but with his current performance and very high injury risk it's far from a sure thing that he will bounce back. There are about two dozen hitters available as free agents that have put up better seasons than CarGo to date. They certainly all lack the upside that CarGo does, but none of them would require giving up the 6th best pitcher in our league.
As it is, I don't think this is a fair trade and am voting against it as it is.
rauldc14
07-27-14, 03:50 PM
I disagree. Cargo is a talented player in a slump. I can see why the trade makes sense. Cargo was a top 30 player last year and he even missed 1-2 months of games.
Banknotes Harper
07-27-14, 03:53 PM
Well, he isn't in the top 300 this year and he's already missed time. If his name wasn't Carlos Gonzalez, he would be unowned and nobody would care about him or even trade David Price for him.
The trade makes sense if we're declaring the season over and crowning Quickie Marte the champ. I don't understand it at all.
^^^ Thats basically it in a nutshell.
Is it balanced, yes. Theyre both top tier players and the fact Cargo missed time has 0 to do with what hes really worth. If it were a few months ago when Kershaw missed the beginning of the season then does that make him not top tier? No. Cargo is still playing top tier ball when healthy. Price is throwing as good as he was in his Cy Young year, and thats straight from many Rays players, coaches, and Prices mouth.
To veto this isnt due to imbalance, but strategy. Do we want Quickie Marte to have David Price? Strategically it makes sense for us to veto, but lets be honest why and avoid any drama or possible hurt feelings from this. Its just a game.
Re: the Gonzalez deal. I think it's pretty obviously a bad trade, value-wise, but saying it's an indefensible trade is a higher bar to clear. Tim is technically correct when he says that Gonzalez's name is the only reason he's valued highly, but then, I don't find that to a bad reason to value him highly. Every year star players get off to slow starts, and most of the time they play a lot better going forward. It's totally reasonable to expect Gonzalez to play very well going forward.
The argument against the deal, I think, is that it's not really buying low on CarGo: it's paying a price commensurate for what his production is supposed to be, so that there's very little upside even if he does play at his usual level the rest of the way. The whole point of trading for someone like CarGo is to pay significantly less than you normally would.
Now, Roto does lead to some wild late-season trades because of the scoring system (some categories become far more valuable than others to certain teams). And I think it's perfectly reasonable for Scott to punt Wins the rest of the way. But what about Ks, ERA, and WHIP? Glancing at the standings breakdown, Price could easily be the difference in two points in Ks, just as many in ERA (one taken, one that could be easily lost), and even more in WHIP.
I don't really see the upside. Feels like a "Might as well just try something different" trade, which happens sometimes down the stretch if a team feels it doesn't have much to lose. Which is understandable, but not actually a competitive calculation (which is usually all I require to refrain from voting against something--a plausible competitive reason for it).
Well it was vetoed down. I didnt think the veto was immediate, but took place when the trade was supposed to go thru. It seems thats not the case.
Banknotes Harper
07-27-14, 08:29 PM
I saw that it was vetoed, which is good, I think. The other thought I had about it was that Price could be trade for pretty much any hitter ranked 15th-50th who is having a good year. Among those players are a lot of guys who are both well-established AND living up their expected production, more or less. Price for Adam Jones, Josh Donaldson, Ian Kinsler, Pujols, Braun, Moss, Beltre, etc are all pretty viable.
As far as I can tell, Quickie Marte never accepted the trade so no one had the option to veto it. I checked this morning and it still said that I had "proposed" a trade to him, and then I checked a little bit later and it was gone. Unless he accepted and you all vetoed in that small window, which is possible. Hopefully Quickie comes on here and clarifies. But I'm really mystified by the reaction to this trade. Either you all are forgetting how good Cargo is, or you really all do think that his performance in the first half of this season is more predictive than what he's done the last 4 seasons before this one.
Powdered Water
07-27-14, 10:44 PM
Makes me proud to be a part of this league when I don't even have to hit the veto button on such an obviously lopsided deal.
I'm clearly in the minority on this trade, so I won't try to argue. I fully understand that David Price is a great pitcher having a great season, and in my quest for a high-end hitter, I apparently didn't aim high enough.
...On a side note, David Price is on the trading block and I'm looking for an elite hitter :D
Well I offered Dozier & Springer for David Price, and was understandably turned down. Right now its too late in the season to make a DL investment with a player.
-sob!- :bawling:
Rhys made an awesome Av for me! Tongo like, Tongo give praise :up:
Adamantium18
07-28-14, 03:15 PM
Sorry I do not post on here more guys. Chris told me to check this out in regards to the veto.Well I believe it is a bunch of bs that it was vetoed. Clearly BC I am in first place. I understand the strategy behind it but its not about what they have done but what they are projected to do for the rest of the year. I thought the veto was only for instances where like a manager is trying to unload their team for like a bag of balls. This is bs and Boo to you for allowing the veto.
Banknotes Harper
07-28-14, 04:08 PM
No, I'm against it because it wasn't a good trade. CarGo wasn't hitting well enough to be traded for Price at the beginning of the year when he was presumably healthy (.255 avg, 26 R, 30 RBI, 9 HR) when he went on the DL at the beginning of June and he's been horrible since he's been back. I get that extrapolating his stats makes him look better - he could be closing in on 20 HR - but he's hurt. He gets hurt a lot. Like every single season. I also have a sense that he doesn't like to play even kind of hurt. I owned him (in my other league) last season and he basically missed the last 50 games in spite of all of the media outlets reporting that he looked okay practicing everyday.
If he ends up having the season that he was drafted to in the last 50 games - and that's a big if - then the trade looks like it will be a push. But if you want Price and feel so strongly about CarGo, then why don't you keep CarGo and trade one of your established hitters who are actually having a good, healthy season for Price? Price is ranked 20th in our league and you can alternatively offer David Ortiz (ranked 55th), Justin Upton (ranked 44th), possibly Marlon Byrd (ranked 62nd), or Nelson Cruz (ranked 15th), or even package some lesser hitters. I won't even think about voting any of those down.
Powdered Water
07-28-14, 08:27 PM
I think if we take a vote, we'll find that only two folks really believe this was a fair deal.
Banknotes Harper
07-29-14, 02:22 AM
I have a strange feeling that Vance Worley is going to be owned (and then dropped and then owned again) in our league tomorrow haha
Think again :)
I should change my team name to The Dreary Doldrums. Just the most frustrating season I could imagine. I shall frustrate myself no mo'!
C_ Russell Martin/Wilson Ramos
1B Jose Abreu - If I get the #1 overall pick next year Ill draft Abreu.
2B Brian Dozier
3B Edwin Encarnacion (Juan Francisco for now)
SS Alexei Ramirez
OF Curtis Granderson
OF Austin Jackson - He woke up! Hey, welcome to the season pal.
OF Marcell Ozuna
UT Khris Davis - Say what you will but hes better than the other Chris Davis.
UT James Loney
BN Ryan Howard
BN J.D. Martinez - please heat up again -begging smiley-
BN George Springer - Heal you swinging for the fences bastid' heal! (Ryan Howard for now)
SP Alex Cobb
SP Jake Odorizzi
RP Jake McGee
RP Jake Petricka - Was there a sequel to The Two Jakes?
P__Santiago Casilla
P__James Paxton - One day.....
P__Danny Salazar
BN Chris Archer
BN Marcus Stroman
Banknotes Harper
07-29-14, 01:46 PM
Not so long ago, I took a look at your roster and realized that you don't have a single player on your current team that you drafted. That's pretty crazy to me. I still have 9, I think - Wright, Kipnis, Napoli, Heyward, Trout, Andrus, Greinke, Gray, Kennedy, and Perkins.
Yeah I knew for a long time Torii Hunter was my lone holdout (Mikey wont part with him now :(). If someones not earning then I find ones that are. I got some back that I traded away though with Chris Archer, Alexei Ramirez, and Alex Cobb.
Funny thought though, I should have named my team Quickie Marte as any of my players were for sale :laugh:
Banknotes Harper
07-29-14, 05:24 PM
Maybe if David Wright had the fear of being cut from my fantasy team, he would turn things around.
Maybe if David Wright had the fear of being cut from my fantasy team, he would turn things around.
Ive tried that, it doesnt work. ;)
Looks like JD Martinez is playing with a pulse again. Woulda played him but he wasnt scheduled to, and Detroit slotted him in at the last minute. Dont you dare hit a homer on my bench J.D.!
http://rantsports.media.s3.amazonaws.com/mlb/files/2013/03/alex-cobb-rays.jpg
Facing the Brewers at the Trop. 8 innings pitched, 12 K's, 1.13 ERA, 0.63 Whip, and the Win.
Welcome back Cobby :)
rauldc14
07-29-14, 11:32 PM
But how about my Mike Leake/ Henderson Alvarez combo! Huzzah!!!!!!
Everyones talking Lester or Price is getting traded. Well Jon Lester just got scratched from todays lineup. Maybe this means Price will be staying (-fistpump- Yes!)
http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/jon-lester-boston-red-sox-pitcher-scratched-from-wednesday-start-trade-rumors-072914
Facing the Brewers at the Trop. 8 innings pitched, 12 K's, 1.13 ERA, 0.63 Whip, and the Win.
Welcome back Cobby :)
Yeah, I said this to TONGO when he was inquiring about him, but I was pretty loathe to deal Cobb. I fully expected him to have a really great second half and felt lucky to have nabbed him before it really got going. But I need SBs and Reyes seemed like a good upside play, and I'm pretty sure before the deal I had the best starting pitching in the league going forward, so I had to do it. But I definitely expected/expect him to be very good down the stretch. Enjoy.
How good have the Pirates been? NL standings since May 1st:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BtzUdx8CYAAkirg.jpg
Yeah, I said this to TONGO when he was inquiring about him, but I was pretty loathe to deal Cobb. I fully expected him to have a really great second half and felt lucky to have nabbed him before it really got going. But I need SBs and Reyes seemed like a good upside play, and I'm pretty sure before the deal I had the best starting pitching in the league going forward, so I had to do it. But I definitely expected/expect him to be very good down the stretch. Enjoy.
Youll be enjoying Jose Reyes and Cody Allen alot too. Nice to see Cody seize the closer role with results alone. I have 0 regrets using Alexei instead of Jose. The White Sox finally put him in the 2 spot, he went 1 for 5 last night, but got 2 Runs & 3 RBIs :). Reyes gets Runs at a ridiculous clip too.
Cardinals acquire Justin Masterson from Indians
http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasybaseball/players/playerpage/1262692/justin-masterson
Banknotes Harper
07-31-14, 01:08 AM
Cardinals acquire Justin Masterson from Indians
I think this is a pretty sound move on their part. His walks spiked and his velocity waned this season, but those both may be injury-related. He's the kind of guy that I thought the Pirates would be interested in rolling the dice on in the offseason.
Athletics acquire Jon Lester for Yoenis Cespedes
http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasybaseball/players/playerpage/580589/jon-lester
I thought with Lester being moved that the chances increased Price would be staying, but that seems to not be the case. Reports are inquiries and offers have actually intensified for Price the last 12 hours. :sick: Dont. Want. This.
St Louis might be getting John Lackey today too.
and its done. Lackey going to St Louis
http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasybaseball/players/playerpage/223559/john-lackey
The Red Sox acquired Joe Kelly & Allen Craig
Banknotes Harper
07-31-14, 02:02 PM
Athletics acquire Jon Lester for Yoenis Cespedes
I thought with Lester being moved that the chances increased Price would be staying, but that seems to not be the case. Reports are inquiries and offers have actually intensified for Price the last 12 hours. :sick: Dont. Want. This.
Yeah, they came out of nowhere for him. My roommate mentioned the idea that the A's might get him last night and I laughed it off knowing that they've basically exhausted their farm system. Dave Cameron published a write up of the move and was mostly critical of it until the corresponding Tommy Milone for Sam Fuld trade was announced. (Note: I'm not allowed to post the link because I haven't posted enough on here yet). The A's were the WS favorites before this trade and now they're really, really the favorites.
If I were a Rays fan, I'd really want them to deal Price. I feel like the Rays have too many teams in front of them to make the playoffs even though most of those aforementioned teams are mediocre. That said, a year and a half of Jeff Samardadfjadfahdpgfha hauled in the number four overall prospect in baseball and some other nice pieces. Price would get an even better return.
If the Bucs can't win it, I'd sure love for the Athletics to take it instead. Good, well-run team, and it would end all (okay, wishful thinking--most) of the silliness about Moneyball and playoff success.
Yeah, they came out of nowhere for him. My roommate mentioned the idea that the A's might get him last night and I laughed it off knowing that they've basically exhausted their farm system. Dave Cameron published a write up of the move and was mostly critical of it until the corresponding Tommy Milone for Sam Fuld trade was announced. (Note: I'm not allowed to post the link because I haven't posted enough on here yet). The A's were the WS favorites before this trade and now they're really, really the favorites.
If I were a Rays fan, I'd really want them to deal Price. I feel like the Rays have too many teams in front of them to make the playoffs even though most of those aforementioned teams are mediocre. That said, a year and a half of Jeff Samardadfjadfahdpgfha hauled in the number four overall prospect in baseball and some other nice pieces. Price would get an even better return.
The price for Price is way high, and I know the absolute least thing they'd take would be another Odorizzi/Wil Myers type deal (they've said that publicly at least). With Shields I could see it. His best days were soon to be done, and time since has shown that. With David Price, oh he's got alot of top tier ball yet left to throw.
Tigers are rumored to be talking, and Boston of course. I really hope he doesnt end up with the Red Sox, I mean I REALLY hope not.... :eek:
If somebody's actually going to meet what they're apparently asking for Price, then you should want them to do it.
Most fans really hate "sell" deals, though, even when they're clearly much better for the team in the long term.
Banknotes Harper
07-31-14, 02:23 PM
The price for Price is way high, and I know the absolute least thing they'd take would be another Odorizzi/Wil Myers type deal (they've said that publicly at least). With Shields I could see it. His best days were soon to be done, and time since has shown that. With David Price, oh he's got alot of top tier ball yet left to throw.
Yeah, they'll get a pretty big return. Though there aren't many suitors left who can put together that kind of deal. The Pirates could, but I don't think I want them to, to be honest. The bad news for the Rays is that all of the incompetent GMs - Dayton Moore, Jerry DiPoto, Ruben Amaro, whoever makes decisions for the Rockies - are either out of the playoff race or out of prospects to deal. The Dodgers could do it, but they're pretty smitten with their trio of Seager, Urias, and Pederson.
I think the Dodgers should do it because theyre too flush in their outfield as is. I dont know what arms they have in their farm system (Im only familiar with Joc Pederson), but I know Joc would be a stronger add than Myers at least.
With just 2 1/2 hours to go I doubt seriously he'll be dealt, but it still puts a fright into a person.
You guys have a lot of interesting pieces for next year, at least.
I just meant the fake baseball...My team has imploded like nothing I have ever seen! Terrible! I am glad to see the Sox making moves in RL baseball...
Banknotes Harper
07-31-14, 02:52 PM
Joel Sherman just tweeted that the Rays are "definitely moving" Price; the Mariners and Dodgers are in the lead. We'll see if it actually happens, though.
I know that Chris and Adam (and I) are Pirates fans, Rob is a Rays fan, and Mark is a Dodgers fan, but what about everyone else?
Sedai is a Red Sox fan, and Powdered Water is an M's fan.
Banknotes Harper
07-31-14, 03:09 PM
Sedai is a Red Sox fan, and Powdered Water is an M's fan.
Oh yeah, I knew that PW was an M's fan.
The Brewers acquired the underrated Gerardo Parra for a pair of minor leaguers. I don't know much about their farm beyond Jimmy Nelson and that it ranks really poorly (29th of 30 by John Sickels).
The Pirates are supposedly in on Price. What do you think, Chris? I feel like we'd have to give up Polanco and something else good or Bell, Glasnow, and somebody else in the top hundo.
Banknotes Harper
07-31-14, 03:12 PM
I think the Dodgers should do it because theyre too flush in their outfield as is. I dont know what arms they have in their farm system (Im only familiar with Joc Pederson), but I know Joc would be a stronger add than Myers at least.
Pederson is supposed to be about ready to contribute to an MLB outfield; Corey Seager (Kyle's brother) is a good-hitting MLB-caliber SS at AA who ranks as highly as 6th in some rankings; and Julio Urias, I think, is a 19 year old pitcher in the low minors who is ranked right around 25th pretty unanimously.
I'm trying really hard to get work done today, but it's not happening.
rauldc14
07-31-14, 03:15 PM
Joel Sherman just tweeted that the Rays are "definitely moving" Price; the Mariners and Dodgers are in the lead. We'll see if it actually happens, though.
I know that Chris and Adam (and I) are Pirates fans, Rob is a Rays fan, and Mark is a Dodgers fan, but what about everyone else?
I'm a Wisconsin Marlins fan. (Yes I know they are from Miami)
The Pirates are supposedly in on Price. What do you think, Chris? I feel like we'd have to give up Polanco and something else good or Bell, Glasnow, and somebody else in the top hundo.
Big ol' NO from me if it involves Polanco, and an above-average size No if it means giving up Bell, Glasnow, and someone else. But Bell and Hanson, or something like that? Bell and Kingham? Reasonable. I think I'd rather we still hang onto that kind of package, but that'd be understandable enough that I'd gladly allow myself to get swept up in the excitement and just enjoy the fruits of it.
I know that Chris and Adam (and I) are Pirates fans, Rob is a Rays fan, and Mark is a Dodgers fan, but what about everyone else?
Long suffering Yankees fan.:D
Frightened Inmate No. 2
07-31-14, 04:26 PM
i'm a white sox fan :bawling:
damn
So now theyre saying its official, with LESS THAN A HALF HOUR TO THE DEADLINE :mad:, that David Price is going to the Tigers. I think we may be getting Drew Smiley and someone else, but dont know who yet. I just heard this on the radio. Am gutted.
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