What Do You Reckon After Death?

[Naisy]

Well its an often debate on these forums about religion and other such matters but what about death? what do you think happens after we take our last breath? do we go off to heaven or hell? to we just sleep? whats your opinion?

In my opinion i think that you may choose to stay and help guide others with your spirit (otherwise known as ghosts) or go on to an enternal world, sort of like heaven or hell, also i believe some souls get lost and thats why they are trapped on earth. Thats just my wacked out theory.

[Henry The Kid]

We sleep for eternity.

[Caitlyn]

I think life is a learning experience and we are blessed or doomed, depending on how you look at it, to repeat it until we get it right....

[Yoda]

Those who choose to follow God are allowed to. Those that do not, do not. I see too many logistical problems with reincarnation to believe in it...

[Sexy Celebrity]

A lot of death/religion/afterlife talk on this forum. . . . I'm concerned about some people's psychological states. Is it all of this terrorism stuff that's making people prepare for possible death soon? The FBI did just release a warning. . . .

[Henry The Kid]

This forum is actually pretty tame in that respect. I have been to many forums that revolve around religion and death debates.

[Yoda]

Size has something to do with it, partially.

From the very beginning, I tried to nurse this forum along as a movie forum above all else...I fought like mad to try to keep the off-topic stuff from taking over. I guess, consequently, the site attracted primarily people who shared a similar slant. It snowballs after that, as people who enjoy that kind of balance will be more likely to stick around, whereas people looking for more miscellaneous banter are apt to go find it elsewhere, as opposed to scrouning around here and trying to create some of it themselves.

[Omega]

"To be absent from the body, is to be present with the Lord" for those who are followers of Jesus Christ, those who follow Lucifer, "Tormented in Flames, and eternal seperation from God".

[Herod]

As Vonnegut put it:
"Turkey Farm"

[Piddzilla]

Originally posted by Sexy Celebrity
A lot of death/religion/afterlife talk on this forum. . . . I'm concerned about some people's psychological states. Is it all of this terrorism stuff that's making people prepare for possible death soon? The FBI did just release a warning. . . .

Aren't they releasing warnings all the time? I think they're scared to death of the risk of being accused for sloppiness like they were after 9-11. But it's better to be on the safe side, definately

[Monkeypunch]

Re-incarnation. Has to be, or else everything I believe is totally wrong. (No it's not, so don't say it, Yoda:D)

[LordSlaytan]

Um, I guess I don't have a lot to say except...when you're dead, you're dead. End of story. :yup:

[Omega]

Lordslayton, how can you explain thousands of years of teachings that there is a Heaven and Hell.

[Yoda]

Originally posted by Monkeypunch
Re-incarnation. Has to be, or else everything I believe is totally wrong. (No it's not, so don't say it, Yoda:D)
I'll only elaborate if you want me to. :p


Originally posted by Omega
Lordslayton, how can you explain thousands of years of teachings that there is a Heaven and Hell.
While I agree with you Omega, it is POSSIBLE that it's simply a mistaken. The fact that Christianity is still alive does serve as some mild evidence as to its validity...but it's not true by definition simply because it's so widespread.

[Omega]

Well Yoda, not to sound closed minded but if I agree with you that there is a possibility that Christianity is mistaken, I feel it would show me to be weak, and then would simply nulify my opinion. I believe Christianity is true, because of my faith and my belief in God and Jesus Christ, these opinion's and truth's to me are not based on what other's think or feel but are soley based on my own personal experiance's and relationship with my creator. This of course is the foundation of Christianity, that Jesus Christ came to earth in the form of man, gave himself up for us so that we can come back to his Father and have a personal relationship with our heavenly father. However I do understand your point.

[Yoda]

I don't think it's weak to acknowledge the POSSIBILITY. Even the strongest in Faith have some doubt. But in the end, if you live your life according to it, defend it, and truly Believe it, even if you're not always utterly positive, I think you've done right in God's eyes.

I think the possibility, even though it's there, is somewhat remote if you really get down and analyze the matter, but I think it'd be rather over-the-top to deny it as a possibility. Now, I don't go around proclaiming that it's possible, because, frankly, it goes without saying. Many things are possible.

That's just my view on the matter. :) I believe quite firmly, but I base my belief on logic and reason as much as Faith. We all have different minds that need to be satisfied in different ways. Some people have an emotional connection with God...and that's perfectly okay. I do on some levels...but my connection with God is more rational. The rationality of God's existence quenches the thirst of doubt in me more than the emotional aspect does. Just the way my head works, I think. It varies from person to person. :)

[LordSlaytan]

Originally posted by Omega
Lordslayton, how can you explain thousands of years of teachings that there is a Heaven and Hell.

Omega, how can you explain the tens of thousands of years of human kind with no conception or teachings of the Hebrew God? Were they destined to hell because they had never even heard of Yahweh? Oh wait, there was no evolution of mankind according to the Bible. We came out of the gate being able to create tools and the having the knowledge of agriculture. You believe what you want to believe, you obviously need no permission from me. But I am loathe to defend my beliefs to you, because you base al your information for debating from a book that I don't see as a factual representation of the history of homo erectus, and the growth and spread of the human species.

It's like me saying that we are the descendants of humans from the third age of middle-earth. You would take my idea of facts as seriously as I would take yours. Sorry.

[Yoda]

I'll try to sum up what I think we're all getting at. :)

The Bible is not something you can use to convince someone of God, for the most part. The Bible is something you use after you've already decided to believe in it...or, perhaps, to believe in some kind of God. It's very unlikely you'll convince anyone of God's existence with The Bible, because The Bible is written as a manual of sorts for people who already believe in God.

Now, some people are exposed to The Bible, and find it moving...they find it "fits" perfectly, and thus they convert. But you cannot rely on this...especially considering the bulk of people in most developed countries today have already been exposed to The Bible. If you were witnessing to foreigners who'd never heard of it, that would be one thing, of course.

If you want to make the case for God and/or Christianity, read some apologetics. Check out Phillip Johnson, George McDonald, and, of course, C.S. Lewis. They can all present you with very well thought-out, logical arguments for the existence of a Higher Power, as well as explanations for common fallacies about Christianity that are often used to erroneously disprove it.

[Henry The Kid]

Originally posted by Yoda




While I agree with you Omega, it is POSSIBLE that it's simply a mistaken. The fact that Christianity is still alive does serve as some mild evidence as to its validity...but it's not true by definition simply because it's so widespread.


Wow. I thought I'd never see the day.

[Sexy Celebrity]

Originally posted by Yoda
I believe quite firmly, but I base my belief on logic and reason as much as Faith. We all have different minds that need to be satisfied in different ways. Some people have an emotional connection with God...and that's perfectly okay. I do on some levels...but my connection with God is more rational. The rationality of God's existence quenches the thirst of doubt in me more than the emotional aspect does. Just the way my head works, I think. It varies from person to person. :)

Correct. :)

[Yoda]

Originally posted by Henry The Kid
Wow. I thought I'd never see the day.
Oh, come off it. You know I'm not so arrogant as to assume I couldn't POSSIBLE be mistaken. :p

[LordSlaytan]

You hit the nail on the head Yoda, just slightly to the left. ;D

That was my, less than eloquent, point. :yup:

[Gracie]

Because no one would see it if I posted it anywhere esle, seeing as how this thread is getting alot of attention, I'm posting this message here: POST!! Ahem, thank you.;)

[Henry The Kid]

Originally posted by Yoda

Oh, come off it. You know I'm not so arrogant as to assume I couldn't POSSIBLE be mistaken. :p

Not only that I caught you in a grammar mistake. Good day.








Hah, well obviously I am just kiddin around with ya. It's fun for liberals to over-stereotype conservatives and vice-versa, I think we both know that.

[Yoda]

Naw; I never make none grammar mistakes. What you witnessed was a typo. I actually caught it, too, but forgot to go back and fix it. Ah well.

[linespalsy]

well, i find no reason to think that i'll still be alive when i'm dead, but i guess i wont know for sure until it happens...but man, whenever i think about it, all i can think of is "shoot! being eternally conscious would eternally suck!"
so i guess the only real answer i can come up with to your question is: i dont know what happens when you die, but i sure hope it's just poimanent lack of consciousness.

[Herod]

Originally posted by Henry The Kid


Not only that I caught you in a grammar mistake. Good day.


Could have been so valid, almost stinging even...
had it been grammatically correct, that is.

Give yourself a comma, and try again.

[The Silver Bullet]

Try a captial H, Herod...!

:D

[LordSlaytan]

Originally posted by The Silver Bullet
Herod...!

:D


Is there more to your sentence? ;)

[The Silver Bullet]

Worms don't get wings.

:D

[Herod]

I don't believe a capitalization is required after an ellipsis... is it?
Perhaps it
was my seemingly
random "new lines"
that
throw people off.

[Henry The Kid]

See? Can't we all just get along and pick apart each other's every little mistake?

[r3port3r66]

How will you know when you're dead?

I believe in ghosts. I know that sounds kind of dramatic, but we've all seen them, felt them. I bet none of you out there can say you have never experienced a paranormal event. Perhaps you shrugged it off as a mere figment of your imagination, but still you wonder…right?

The fact is, wether ghosts are residual energy left over from the living (Perhaps Yoda can explain this better), or lost souls confused about where to go next, they are a part of this reality. You can't explain them because if you try, you acknowledge they exist in some way or another. It may not prove "life" after death, but it sure makes me wonder what they are, and why so many people, like myself, have seen them. Right….?

[Caitlyn]

If there is anything to some of the out of body experiences people say they have had… then we should know we are dead… and as far as ghosts, I do believe in them but based on my own personal experience, I don’t think they are residual energy left over from the living nor do I think all of them are lost souls…

[r3port3r66]

Caitlyn, you have aroused my curiosity. If ghosts are not residual energy, and not all of them are lost, then, based on your experience, what's left.....?

[Caitlyn]

From my own personal experience, I believe that some ghosts are in fact family members or friends who watch over us so I can’t really classify them as “lost souls” ….