Obama Most Pro-Abortion President in History

Are you seriously trying to bring up church history while trying to claim humanism? Wow. Also, there are hundreds of christian denominations, so there's that little issue as well, and if they believed in the same god then I wonder why they segregated themselves so much.

Westerners perhaps, but even then people didn't need a stone tablet to know not to kill people, so, I think we can manage.

Who are these evil people you speak of?

What about the laws forcing vaginal probes or defunding rape crisis centers for suggesting abortion as an option? Recently, laws have made it 10x more difficult for everyone, Obama has very little to do with the abortion debate.

Don't fight propagandic crap with other propagandic crap, please...

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Oh awesome! Racism (that doesn't even have anything to do with the topic) right here on Mofo!

For cryin' out loud, guy...see, this is why we need neg rep back.

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No. I was merely answering a question.

I wonder that too.

Those who reject what is good.

What about the perversion of justice which is responsible for the murders of nearly 56 million innocent unborn children since Roe?

I suppose the 67 Million he gave to Planned Parenthood was so that they could buy diapers and books and DVDs on how to care for your baby?

George Carlin is propagandistic crap? I'm not gonna get involved with this argument any further because I don't want to give the time of day to this zealot. But what Carlin says there addresses the issue and pretty much sums up my stance on the matter far more eloquently than I ever could. He was a genius.

I don't know what's worse...

That he keeps flogging this dead horse over and over...

Or that we all (myself included) continue to pay attention to the troll.

I'm blocking him. I'm done. (or not...is that feature gone?)

Come on, Skepsis. He was (almost) as bad as Mesmerized, but on the other side of the spectrum (he was more eloquent, I'll give him that).

He doesn't make one single nuanced argument in that whole 'speech'. He's just making a few overly stereotypical agressive jokes about conservatives to make his left wing public laugh and root.

He was good at being manipulative on stage, but there's zero logic or true value to find in his work philosophically or politically (in my opinion). He's definitely a pseudo-intellectual in my book.
I mean, he's practically exclusively using ad hominem jokes to make a statement about abortion. You can't take that as serious argumentation now, do you?

I'm not going into further discussion about this either, as you can read my views on the matter in the other abortion topic. Most of the points he's trying to make in that video I have already disputed there.

I stand by what I said. Like I said earlier, this isn't the kind of discussion I enjoy so I'm not going to get involved in it. It brings out the worst in people.

Ok, I understand.

This thread is about 3 pages too long anyways. It's slowly but surely turning into a 2.0 of the original abortion thread.

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With that I very much agree. There's no useful foundation for discussion in this thread, as the topic starter doesn't know how to actually have one properly.

"WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court on Friday (Jan. 24) temporarily exempted a religious non-profit organization from the federal health care law's mandate that insurance plans include free coverage of contraceptives.

The justices' order was a defeat for the Obama administration, which had argued that accommodations already in place protected religious groups from violating their beliefs that some birth control methods cause abortions.

It was a victory for opponents of the so-called contraception mandate, who had contended that allowing their insurance companies to provide the coverage — rather than including it directly in employer plans — still violated their principles.

The group at the center of the case — The Little Sisters of the Poor — can sidestep the mandate while its case is pending before a federal appeals court."

More on this story:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/p...obama/4340287/

Originally Posted by Monkeypunch

Oh awesome! Racism

You don't know what racism is. The mere fact that Planned Parenthood targets blacks and minorities makes them the most racist people on the planet. They come in the guise of helping the poor, but they only want to exterminate those who are not perfect.

"We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members."

"We should apply a stern and rigid policy of sterilization and segregation to that grade of population whose progeny is tainted, or whose inheritance is such that objectionable traits may be transmitted to offspring."

"Give dysgenic groups [people with "bad genes"] in our population their choice of segregation or [compulsory] sterilization."

~ Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood

"Above all, society must grasp the grim relationship between unwanted children and the violent rebellion of minority groups."

~ Lawrence Lader, founder of NARAL

Margaret Sanger had a lot of screwed up beliefs. That doesn't mean that Planned Parenthood operates under those same ideals that she had. Besides Planned Parenthood isn't the only women's health clinic out there. Many women could not receive the healthcare that they need if those places did not exist. They provide a lot more than just abortions.

Why am I bothering?

Planned Parenthood only offers enough healthcare services to make them look legit. It's their cover. They are the largest abortion provider in America. That's simply a fact. Choosing to deny it doesn't make problems go away.

http://blackgenocide.org/planned.html

Yes, I am aware they provide abortions. Where in my post did I deny that? why would I? I feel that is a good service to provide. My point is that Margaret Sanger's ideology has nothing to do with the way they operate now.

Your "point" is overshadowed by the words of the victims of racism. You say nothing.

If being skeptical makes me an idiot, then I'd rather be an idiot.

He's really not. Being pro-life is "anti-woman" in the same sense being pro-choice is "anti-baby."

You know what's definitely anti-woman, though? Implying that the literally tens of millions of pro-life women are all brainwashed masochists.

Yeah Cobpyth, surely you know by now that propaganda can only come from those you disagree with.

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