Will Eisner's The Spirit

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Damn. So what's my punishment going to be?



Look, if you're going to get all "high horse" with me, you at least better know what you're spouting. You say you don't know if you'll like The Spirit, but if you're such a huge fanatic of the Robert Rodriguez Sin City visual style, I imagine you'll be thoroughly satisfied. Because from the currently released trailers and TV spots, it seems that's all Frank Miller learned from his time spent co-directing a major motion picture. And it appears I'm not the only one who is disenchanted.

You can love Frank Miller all you want (I'm sure All-Star Batman and Robin just butters your biscuits), but I'm still entitled to an opinion here that I feel isn't completely unfounded. Sin City is a fantastic adaptation of Frank Miller's source material, both in visual style and accuracy of plot. I just don't think it's a fantastic film. You forget, I'm a fan of the books too. But in my view, it doesn't make for such a timeless, perfect cult masterpiece everyone seems to suggest that it is. I know it's a parodical homage to noir serials seen through Miller's gruesome lens; and as such, I don't expect brilliant acting, pacing, or anything else for that matter. I think the visuals are pretty when they're adapting Miller's original artwork, and a bit of a stretch the rest of the time. The acting is straight comic book schlock, which for me is a chore to sit through for more than an hour.

I get why people like the film. I really do. Robert Rodriguez - the Guild of Directors be damned - dared to wrangle the creator of an awesome indie comic sensation nobody wanted to touch, and make a straight adaptation to film. He proved that an avante-garde style could be done to great success, and that fans should really matter over all other concerns. I like the film. I own it. It's sitting on my DVD shelf. Here's a picture. But Jesus Christ, why is it so god-forsaken wrong of me to think that a wacky looking satire of pulp serials doesn't translate into an untouchable masterpiece, but rather a pretty good film with imperfections like any other, and a slightly unforgiving runtime? The visuals are cool, but they get old because what works in comic form doesn't work quite so well on film. That's my opinion. Now shut up.
Sleezy for sure wins this argument, bro. sorry. He is absolutely correct. He should also be able to have his opinion. Last time I checked Movie Forums isnt a communist nation. I am intrigued by this movie. Not SURE im going to like it but i hope so.

......is that Pirates of the Caribbean 3 on your DVD shelf??? Shaaaaame.

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In the Beginning...
Originally Posted by The Spirit
......is that Pirates of the Caribbean 3 on your DVD shelf??? Shaaaaame.
Actually, it's Dead Man's Chest, but yes, At World's End (not pictured) sits right next to it. I'm not ashamed to admit that I own some steamers. I'd be willing to bet many others on this forum own far worse. Sometimes, you just need to watch a brainless bomb to put everything back into perspective.

That said, you won't get me to provide visual proof that I own Encino Man, Antitrust, and Timeline.



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Damn. So what's my punishment going to be?



Look, if you're going to get all "high horse" with me, you at least better know what you're spouting. You say you don't know if you'll like The Spirit, but if you're such a huge fanatic of the Robert Rodriguez Sin City visual style, I imagine you'll be thoroughly satisfied. Because from the currently released trailers and TV spots, it seems that's all Frank Miller learned from his time spent co-directing a major motion picture. And it appears I'm not the only one who is disenchanted.

You can love Frank Miller all you want (I'm sure All-Star Batman and Robin just butters your biscuits), but I'm still entitled to an opinion here that I feel isn't completely unfounded. Sin City is a fantastic adaptation of Frank Miller's source material, both in visual style and accuracy of plot. I just don't think it's a fantastic film. You forget, I'm a fan of the books too. But in my view, it doesn't make for such a timeless, perfect cult masterpiece everyone seems to suggest that it is. I know it's a parodical homage to noir serials seen through Miller's gruesome lens; and as such, I don't expect brilliant acting, pacing, or anything else for that matter. I think the visuals are pretty when they're adapting Miller's original artwork, and a bit of a stretch the rest of the time. The acting is straight comic book schlock, which for me is a chore to sit through for more than an hour.

I get why people like the film. I really do. Robert Rodriguez - the Guild of Directors be damned - dared to wrangle the creator of an awesome indie comic sensation nobody wanted to touch, and make a straight adaptation to film. He proved that an avante-garde style could be done to great success, and that fans should really matter over all other concerns. I like the film. I own it. It's sitting on my DVD shelf. Here's a picture. But Jesus Christ, why is it so god-forsaken wrong of me to think that a wacky looking satire of pulp serials doesn't translate into an untouchable masterpiece, but rather a pretty good film with imperfections like any other, and a slightly unforgiving runtime? The visuals are cool, but they get old because what works in comic form doesn't work quite so well on film. That's my opinion. Now shut up.
Overreaction much? I admit my first line could have used a ** but everything after that was my own ****ing opinion. You said you're entitled to an opinion... so what, I'm not? I didn't accuse you of not liking the movie, either, and my "except for Sleezy" line I thought was clearly a joke. I apologize if it didn't come across that way, but for Christ's sake you didn't need to tear my head off for it.



In the Beginning...
Overreaction much? I admit my first line could have used a ** but everything after that was my own ****ing opinion. You said you're entitled to an opinion... so what, I'm not?
I had no problems with your opinion on Sin City or the upcoming The Spirit. I just took issue with the fact that you seemed to suggest I was somehow "wrong" in my assessment of Sin City and its visual style. I've had people like that erroneously criticize my opinion as stupidity before, and then I see a new member who I don't know appearing as if he's doing the same thing now (even addressing me specifically by name). As such, I wouldn't say I overreacted.

Originally Posted by Sawman3
I didn't accuse you of not liking the movie, either, and my "except for Sleezy" line I thought was clearly a joke. I apologize if it didn't come across that way, but for Christ's sake you didn't need to tear my head off for it.
I get that you were joking. That's cool. But in the realm of Internet forum posting, it's often difficult to tell who's joking and who's calling you out. Smilies are your friend. Sorry to tear your head off, but I'm sure Nebbit can produce a smilie of me taping it back on for you.

That is actually a joke, by the way. Nebbit has smilies for everything. I'm cool with calling it a misunderstanding if you are. Welcome to MoFo.



It was all:

LOUD NOISES! and spitting in tin pots, and then i was like :

Peace yo, I be trippin.


Then I was like: awwwwwwwwwww



I like the TV spots I've been seeing and as I mentioned here somewhere this flick is all going to be in color. Is it looking any better to ya Sleezy? I agree it may still have some similarities but I don't think this is going to be Sin City 2.
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In the Beginning...
I like the TV spots I've been seeing and as I mentioned here somewhere this flick is all going to be in color. Is it looking any better to ya Sleezy? I agree it may still have some similarities but I don't think this is going to be Sin City 2.
I'm still pretty uninterested. I think it will be a snore.



In the Beginning...
Well I'll go see it and then I'll give you my totally unbiased and balanced review.
If the movie does, for some reason, turn out to be a pretty good flick, I'll definitely see it. Here's hoping you come back with a good report.



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This looks great im looking forward to see it!
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